herO vs. Clem - EWC StarCraft II | Day 5 - Final Four
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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clem is an absolute menace lol.
These games between the top players at this high-stakes tournament make other SC2 games I watch seem like a snooze fest.
Best esport by far.
I want to say so many things, but I don't want to spoil it. You guys are in for a treat.
If terran is so op why isn't the semifinals just 4 terrans?? Just give clem his flowers that he's just playing very well. He's literally on top of his game. He made some minor mistakes but nothing that cost him the game.
yeah thats what im talking about, the races are balanced
final 4:
2 zergs
1 protoss
1 terran
It's not TERRAN that's op. It's GHOSTS (used properly by a pro vs Zerg/Protoss) that is OP AS FUCK. Clem just makes it looks even worse due to his ABSURD apm and ability to multitask like he has 8 hands on the keyboard. I mean lets be real Ghosts ARE STILL op as fuck in any hand vs zerg or protoss. Stripping all shields on protoss PLUS all/most energy on units/buildings for protoss and zerg units AS AN AOE no less + the ability to use Snipe on EVERY SINGLE zerg unit is absolutely absurd.
@@Erati243 the same could be said about infestors. When used correctly they're op as hell.
@@tiberiusx22 .... OK continue? I explained my reasoning how about you do the same?
some people just dont like seeing terran do well
people who said clem played better, let me tell you this. Microing MMMG is 1/10 the skill needed to micro stalkers,sentries, disruptors, speelots, inmmortals and collosus, warp prism + HT, etc. Protoss needs a buff to compensate for the high skill ceiling. Or lower the skill ceiling by replacing disruptors with reavers. This game is totally not balanced at the highest skill levels.
its the constant stutter stepping of bios + dodging of disruptors that makes terran micro very hard
in addition of hot pick ups and libs + constant macroing and producing units
@@alucardlord9032 production on units is a breeze for Terran, only need to press a few keys, while microing during a battle. For toss the camera must be where they place gateway units, so juggling all the above micro plus changing cameras for unit production is a mess. Anyways, watching Serral and Clem 5-0 Her0, or close to it, second best Toss in the world says a lot about the state of the race…. Its not a consistent race, its full of spell casters, and binary units (inmortal 20 vs 50 dmg, disruptors 0 vs insane dmg, collosus, etc…) that requiere constant micro to perform decently.
Stutter and sieging never hard. U so funny.
2:26 Clem's reaction to losing reaper
😂😂😂😂 omg
@@ZenLee it's absolutely normal reaction, on losing a reaper.
@@Max.-rs6sm claro, I haven't played in 10 yeas so wouldn't know
I think you can expect an increased reaction here when compared with other players. Clem very rarely loses his reaper, even while often dancing with death.
What an insane series.
The entire thing so far has been crazy, but the top 4, oh boy.
We got 2 4-0s in the semis, but they were completely different, with one having Serral making Dark look completely incapable of even dealing any kind of damage, and this one with so much action and twists.
I feel bad for the Koreans, but Serral and Clem are way above them, and Clem is easily the best Terran, it's not even close.
We got the finals we deserve guys, the 2 absolute best and unmatched that completely annihilated anyone else in the competition.
It's going to be epic.
For those who still haven't seen the final result, i totally spoil the result in my comment !
The best part is that we could say that with his military service, Serral has lost level but on the contrary!!! Since he left, he's been rolling even more on Everyone (!!) except this rock, (what am I saying) this peninsula of skill that is Clem who is finally fulfilling the prophecy announced in 2021 (in "Desplancito song" =>"ruclips.net/video/tsPmgNFCwPQ/видео.html")!
@@rocobrasaure I think the military enroll him in a unit where he could play the same amount of hours he was able to prior to enlistment.
@@nguquaxanguyen5224 Maybe.
T'es un as Clem! Tu as le bunshin no jutsu en toi parfois c'est dingue!
Enorme GG!
HerO didn't have the power to play anymore. He played 32 games in three days.
I think game two is one of the best PvTs I've seen in a while
What did Clem eat these days? I'll have what he had.
Steroids and Cocoa Puffs
he finally got laid.
American cereal 🐶
French blood💪
He seems to be more relax.
i watched this live and i was sure herO would win considering how his match vs Cure went, but it seemed like everything he did was stopped dead in it's tracks! when i saw Clem perfectly dodge those disruptor shots i was like "ohh no... how are we gonna stop that bio ball now!?" gg to Clem! insane micro!
32 yrs old VS 22 yrs.
irrelevant
French Vs Korean
Boy vs girl
@@Eri4Jp it doesnt
@@tyuiqwer7314 SF6 winner of the EWC is a 35yo guy. fighting games are extremely demanding in term of reactivity. Hero have a 5/0 winning streak on Reynor in that tournament who is a little younger than Clem.
Disruptors are not fun to watch. Land a lucky strike or the bio ball kills you. It might be balanced (who knows?) but the interaction is dumb
Its not luck, it's micro management and micro of Clem split is only better (and sometimes beautiful, i trusted i was watching a ballet).
1s loss of attention and total death of your army. Just macroing perfectly and doing multi pronged Attack or harrass meanwhile avoiding 8/9 constant disruptor balls is just incredible... You really see how fast Clem is microing his unit, its a masterpiece.
I love watching Disruptors. They make things so much more intense.
agreed bad unit design that only brings feels bad either on one side or the other side depending on the level...
Is he winning tomorrow? He's been looking on fire the last while!
This kid is already a god of terran! =þ
where is maxpax when you need him?
11:44 hero made a hopeless face😂
Yeah thanks a bunch for the spoiler at 3 seconds left to the end of the video, Kev! Neuk jou and i'll see you tomorrow.
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Too late for me😢
@@stefangeorgescu7954 sadge
Why do you guys even look at the comments if you're trying to avoid spoilers? There's is absolutely no reason to scroll down. All the buttons/controls you need is right at the top of your screen above the comments section.
What a series.. Clem is on abother level
Clem машина, походу топ 1 щас
And there goes the Last Protos :-(
Well, there are 3 races, and only 2 can go to the finals from the top 4... And Clem was clearly far superior.
Lol so many salty people in comments
Let’s get a Spoiler Shield 🛡️
Disruptor is complete trash. Bad design, inefficient and clunky vs top level opponent. Not even pleasant to look as a spectator. Bin this please and bring back the reaver ;)
However, superb match, Hero gave everything but Clem was the stronger player today :)
What a performance by the french terran !!!
I think hero play really badly
I think the main problem are the disruptors and the liberators. they kill the main part of the rts experience, that is the battles. with those units you just dont see people engaging, you just see them trying and then running ALL the time because you can't engage on a liberator zone neither on a disruption nova
Agreed, at least with the disruptor part. You can make a decision to fight in liberator zones if you're confident that you can target them down quickly. And you can retreat from a liberator zone that catches you off guard before you take too much damage. Liberators also add interesting flavor to air vs air battles where they're weak against things like void rays/corruptors/BCs/tempests but an absolute menace against masses of mutas/phoenix/interceptors. I actually really like the design of liberators and all the different ways they can be used.
A disruptor on the other hand does either nothing or everything instantaneously. Most of the shots miss and then you run around with an expensive paperweight that does nothing until it's off cooldown. But then you have moments like 9:55 where it instantly evaporates 20 supply. It's the most "all or nothing" unit in SC2 and doesn't even have any upgrades that would make it more interesting. I also think the reaver was a much better-designed unit that filled the same role, but unfortunately we have what we have!
@@ClearAlera Reavers are almost worthless without a Shuttle, so for all the complaining you guys do about Disruptors being worthless, you would still lose because of your lack of micro skills with a Reaver/Prism.
Comments like these are indicative of people who don't know what they are watching. Disruptors are a key, valuable unit to have in these late games. The pros certainly don't have problems using them. Maybe you should just get better before you whine.
What a match! This should have been a 4:3.
Not taking anything away from Clem, but it was odd seeing Hero make so many bad decisions with his engagements.
Would be cool if there was a 30+ or 35+ league for SC2. Would give pro sc2 players a bigger competition window and we could see some really good matches. Just a random thought.
Clem's keyboard hand looks more like that of a pianist than the typical claw shape. Is there something in that?
man was the second game a back and forth war!
New generation wins old.
Amazing players ❤
God these semifinals are depressing af
yeah blowouts are lame to watch. but good for Clem. he put in the work and deserves it.
Rip hero
wouldnt cannons in mineral line make sense against terran?
Protoss underpowered
Is there no crowd?
Game 2 and 3 are pretty good.
Hope clem win serral in final
AMAZING PLAYER
That second game... ❤
12:37 LOVE the meme
I would like to see maxpax avenge hero in this stage , someday😢
mais quel beau gosse ce clem ! ggwp
Felt like storms in the mix would’ve helped
vs ghost? mmm i dont know
Ghost can snipe while being cloak, tanks with 14 range, 3 supply will delete templar. Easy kill
terrans should really start doing hellion runbys to punish protoss with high base + probe counts. their main army is always getting bogged down by disruptors.
Stimmed marines are better for harassment & obsolete hellions. marines kill workers fast, can also kill bases, static, stalkers, shoot up and are way more cost efficient. Early game hellion drop can do ok but risky - easy for toss to scout and shut down, then u die to 4 gate blink as your tank production is delayed. U need 2-3 tanks to hold 4 gate blink.
Why would they make an un-upgraded unit to do the same thing that an upgraded unit can do? They also only have two Factories throughout the game. Why waste it on Hellions when you need to keep up WM production?
@@kommisar. hellions are fast and kills workers fine w/o upgrades (except blue fire). doesn't need medivacs so it's very cheap because you only lose minerals. same when protoss send mass zealots for counter attack. hellbats also defend better against these zealots.
terrans always gets countered attack and their main army gets bogged down by disruptors. get ~12 of your supply into hellions then harass/defend with them instead and you can solve both.
@@avefreetimehaver5154 I don't think you've thought this through....
1. You only have two Factories, which you need for constant WM or Tank production. This sort of echos the, "Why don't Terrans just build a Raven for detection?" noob question.
2. They're not going to be as upgraded as Marines, meaning they're going to do less damage. No, they're definitely not as good as upgraded Marines at killing off Probes, even WITH blue flame.
3. Yes, they're faster than Marines, but most of the time you send Marines in a Medivac to kill off workers. Sending Hellions across the map makes them easier to spot/intercept. Plus, when you do this with Marines, you can save them with the Medivac. If your Hellions get caught, they are much easier to chase down.
4. Often workers are killed by the bio ball attacking a bass when the Protoss army is out of position, which kind of makes Hellions pointless in that regard.
5. There's no way 6 un-upgraded Hellions are going to defend against a counterattack, let alone a Disruptor. I don't know where you got this idea.
@@avefreetimehaver5154 Why would you use up your two Factories' production to produce inferior, un-upgraded units to send them across the map where they are more easily intercepted/caught, and don't have any greater DPS on workers than Stimmed Marines? There's a reason why the world champion doesn't do it. Maybe you should realize you don't know as much as you think you do.
Carrier should be cheap and produced quickly then p vs t will get balanced. bored with maruder marine medivac all apear in the game. Or destructer range and damage should be promoted back the way it was....
terran is best!
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hyped!
Wow. Just wow.
Second game raven was mad that lost him the game
хиро не заслужил 4-0
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At the highest level of play (at Maru and Clem's level), Terran is the master/OP race if one can utilize all of the small advantages that Terran has. In the beginning, middle, and endgame, Terran can be OP compared to especially Zerg and Protoss.
For example:
- In the beginning, reapers can travel faster and can heal and can be even used for cheese. Widow mine can annihilate both air and land units easily with splash damage.
- Next, ravens and all air harrassment can be deployed. For the land units, only
- Terrans' missile turrets are the best in terms of scanning area and damage per second.
- Terran's tanks are the most profitable land units in the beginning to destroy buildings and units (splash)
- Terran's air units can standby and harrass as much as possible without any repercussions from other races in the beginning. Once the harrassment done, Terran can put pressure at all time until the end. - especially the medivac (heal) + marine (stimpack) + marauders (slow) - These combinations can annihilate anything
- Terran's miner is one of the most resource-gained/second - the mule
- Terran's ghosts are very OP. It can snipe, hide, emp, and nuke. With protection from other units, it's almost impossible to counter ghosts. The reason? other races need something to scan the hidden units and those scanners can be easily found by 'scan' and destroyed accordingly.
- Terran's buildings can attack and can be transported to any other area easily. Other races? Not so much.
- In the endgame, ghosts, unlimited scans, along with air superiority and land superiority can squash any other races with ease.
Terran is the hardest and most difficult and complex race to play, but also the most lucrative ones and the return of investment is the biggest. The variations are limitless with Terran, you can combine any units with ease, mostly with bio and mech. All the compositions, if you can really utilize them, are very OP. It can heal, repair, long-range, nuke anything, hidden units both air and land, and can counter any other race units. Not to mention the mule is one of the most profitable miners for terrans.
All in all Terran >>> Protoss >> Zerg.
Its terran >>>>>> zerg >> protoss
Yea. How is the semi so one sided
Max pax would have made clem run for his money. Sadly for hero clem have had too many matches against max pax recently in esl open. He seems to know about protoss insides out
How is the final so one sided
How is Clem so one-sided
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I always dont understand why these pro never want to just invest one canon or two to shut down all the multi mini drop
Hero made a bunch of Cannons. What are you talking about?
@@kommisar. whereeee i mean on the edge for mineral drop by medivect
@@juztina7346 That's what noobs do. Cannon are better off in the mineral line where they have more range to hit things.
This time they cant nerf clem😂clem is monster Ai
Terran op vs toss
No Storm vs MMM.... wierd Flex and 0-3 🤣🤔
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Damn that kid is simple a genius, what a incredible performance, completely destroying his opponents.
Hero keeps walking his disruptors into the death zone in every fight and people talk about game balance... hero was so off this series
О боже целых 5 зрителей!!
Hero has got to change his strategy. This was a poor look
Terran op as always.
stop, please stop. I'm a Serral and Zerg fan boy. Clem played out of his mind this tournament, that's the reason not the balance bs. Dark defeated Maru. Serral destroyed Maru once again. Hero beat Cure. How is that Terrain OP?
@@philongpham3886 terran is op vs protoss.
Protoss is UP, thats why we never win.
1 gsl in 8 years.
@@petercriscuola that I agree with you. Protoss needs a buff.
Tvp balance has been broken for 100 years now. Many protoss pros resigned to their doomed fate and subsequently quit the scene, including Parting, sOs, and Zest
Clems play isn’t really that creative. It’s really kind of boring, actually. always the same thing.
He just has better unit control than most players. It’s not like he has a new insight into how Taron is played or develops specific strategies for different players and maps.
Bro your salty Clem plays is genius of micro décision and Quick answer
@@Feekobreh
I don’t think Clem has a deeper understanding of the game than the other top Terrans. I’ve never heard any caster say that Clem was an innovative player, either.
He’s just physically gifted. I’m not salty about it. It’s kind of a compliment for someone to say that you are physically gifted, no?
*incredible display of unit imbalance*
Balance Council: We should nerf the mothership again to diversify the game 😊
Can't win by a move anymore very sad better player wins
Need templars maybe
Yeah he used Templar when he 3-0'd Clem back in June, wonder why he opted out this time.
@37:25 why blizzard does not give raven an attack but gave high templar is beyond stupid
It is clear that everyone has seen the tvp imbalance for 15 years, viking is a very oppressive unit, it kills the colossi very easily, the fight vs MMM is even with colossi but they don't even lower the life of the marauders but when the viking punishes the colossi it is over the fight of the toss, it is also a scanner that sees all over the map how easy it is to play terran cheap units they do not occupy sup they heal
15? 26!
I agree, TvP is absolutely unfair, for terran. Protoss just press a-click, and win
@@Max.-rs6sm are you progressive or mentally retarded?
@@Max.-rs6sm Someone's stuck in Silver. How tragic. 😆
Everything you said there is complete noob bullshit.
How many people talk about "weak" Disruptor. How about thinking about High Templar in Prisme? Or more Colossus? No? Only buff? I think it's funny..
Lol, toss has no unit to counter mmm, like nothing.
lol, Hero beat Clem 3-0 in June but continue crying
Hero also went 3-0 in matches and 7-1 in maps against the rest of the Terrans in this tournament, and even after getting stomped by Clem had an overall winning map and match score against terran, but yeah nothing he could do totally unwinnable because of race. Obviously.
I have been listening to SC2 announcers for years, this is my first time at your channel. The english guy says stupid shit the other guy is great to listen from. Just my 2 cents. Appreciate it!
GO GO go make terran more OP
Make marine can fly and 20 range
Make emp 1 hit KO!!!!🎉🎉
PLEASE make marine cost 20 minerals 😂
🥖🥖🥖
The most brain rot balance ever
Pwease increase marine dps twice more !!!
So imba terran units, omg
So imba that herO and Serral crushed all Terrans excepted Clem...
@@rocobrasaure as toss only herO can show smth offline. Its not ok, when 1 race (toss) so weak, that only one player caan show smething.
@@ЮрийСергеевич-з9е Or maybe its because there is less good players.
I'm sad for Toss than MaxPax never go in offline competition because he is clearly one of the new blood the race clearly need.
Actually, the is not a lot of very good protoss when it remains lot of ancient very good tyerrans and zergs players.
And Clem was as much good he even bully Serral in all tournament. When the GOAT himself crush all terrans/toss he encounter but lost 8-0 vs this one, it would not be honest to say that Clem won because of his race. He was just far better (and herO did lot of little mistakes, maybe because of stress to be vs him).
@@rocobrasaure hero did mistakes because its much harder to controll toss then @split to win@
we should nerf protoss.
Unbelievable that a player playing as poorly as hero, with terrible army control, with a huge accumulation of mistakes, could get this far in the tournament. carried so hard by disruptors.
He seemed to be little scared of Clem level. Usually, Clem is the one who stress a lot in offline tournament and do performance far from his true level.
But since he won his 1st offline competition in last december he seems to have earned confidence. He lost is pokerface for the 1st time only at the end of the fourth game vs Serral in the final.
I bet u didn't watch his run, yet gave weak argument how he how he sucks.
Now this is just straight up disrespect for those who lost to hero in this tourney
Weak vision bro
When MMM can be used every single time in a 4-0 against the best of the other race. Clem did NOTHING creative, he just piles on MMM. It's time to do it, finally time to nerf stim. 10% less move and attack speed, and 50% more health cost.
It wont help you in gold. Shut up.
Go back to your bronze league, Clem clean Hero clock like man!
Spell casters are the issue
You drop a fungal you deal immediate damage, can't be dodged, slows you down
Emp deals immediate damage, can't be dodged
Storm and nova both can be easily be dodged, nova only deals ground damage, so vikings/medivacs can do whatever they want
@@wyko7450 Not completely wrong, wasnt ... any unit variations except for swapping valks for tanks on Terrans part. Of course, thats not to take away from Clems perfect avoidance of distruptor shots, or constant expert harassement - but it just makes Terran rather boring to watch overall as well. Hardly see any mech, just mass bio-balls at this level.
should be like WOL campaign: only marine can stim.
17 dps of 24 marine with 3 medivac cost (1200/0 + 300/300 = 1500/300) gona get 408 dps
Vs
9.7 dps of 10 stalker cost (1250/500) gona get 97 dps
408 dps vs 97 dps, even a kid knows what "4 times higher" is.
Tanks another stupid terran unit with only 150/125 deals aoe with 14 RANGE and notorious splash dmg with 35 DPS, has infinite missile speed, guarded by 408 dps marine. That brainded 14 range AOE is inviting anyone including a cat to engage them otherwise ur base is deleted.
Look at Colossi 300/200, almost twice cost of siege tank, with 6 supply, RANGE ONLY 9, dps is 18, TWICE LOWER than tank. Colossi get shooted by both tank and viking, and stim marine travel speed almost twice, can catch any protoss unit. By the time you get 1 colossi, terran get 2 siege tanks. 18 dps vs 70 dps, 9 range vs 14 range.
Every 1 COLOSSI terran got 2 SIEGE TANKS?
Terran design is so imbalance
Thats just 2 units there. Liberator, viking, marauder, ghost, raven, scans, mules, floating building, free supply depos already OP per cost
terra too op.wtff
Not Terran (herO litterally crushed Cure, Spirit and Gumiho) but Clem is Totally !