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Love the overhead view and commentary
thanks
Hahaha, at 7 minutes in brother you say "I sure wish I knew where those bales were at" right as you're going by them!!
i did... that was great
When I worked at the feedyard we always planted 100+ acres of sorghum every year. We would chop it put in the pit and feed it to the cattle. It does get tall. Taller than the tractor.
yep i have 100 ish acres we will chop and pile. Its not this tall though
I have very good sudangrass hybrid and sorghum silage hybrids that yield like this but only 10-15 lbs/acre seed rate. aerc.ca
How TALL can it grow?
What kind of fertilizer inputs?
Ted, you did a great job with that. It truly was a jungle out there. I watched with great anticipation as you neared the hay bales. Fortunately your skills were far greater than most and you successfully completed the task.
helped a bit to have an eye in the sky...thanks though
So... You usually start the other way.. ya, me too, but I don't have a center pivot. Gotta think about what you're doing backwards!!
Had some Colorado 37 Oats and Timothy in some bottom ground many years ago, at the time, we pulled a JD 1327 discbine with an AC 7050, it was first gear!!! I had to stand on the fender to see over the top!!! Stalks were bigger than my thump!! It all went in small (16"x18") bales, they were about a foot apart... Fun.. LOL 😎
that would have been interesting
@@tedkahler9738 it was, I kept getting lost!!!! Couldn't see too many trees along the edge to follow.
We used to cut 8+ acres/hour with that, after four hours in a 16 acre field my dad came to find out what was going on... I probably only had about four acres down, he couldn't believe it was that tall!!! About 6' is all we had ever had before, or since..
I bet that was a load of fun cutting down! That's awesome seeing that shoot out. That's funny about not knowing where the bales are at, a good problem to have 👍
lol it was great... i think ill have to film more cutting of this stuff people seem to like it
@@tedkahler9738 still waiting! :D
Wozer! Nice drone shots Mrs Kahler.
she says thanks....
No one:
No one:
RUclips: YOU WANT TO SEE BIG GRASS GET CUT?
Yes. The answer is yes.
Lmao
thanks everyone!
That stuff is incredible! Holy cow man! I'm impressed the mower is able to process it it as well as it is
yea it is some crazy stuff
LOL I tought you were mowing corn ! :-D
A lot of people mistake Sudan as corn.
similar plant structure
lol reminds me of that one time I didn't mow my lawn for pretty much the whole year. Could almost hide in it. Didn't know lawn grass could grow six feet in a few months. Had to bush hog it.
haha
Lovin' the way you used the different cameras, nice work. Also your sound is fantastic. Best wishes from Cape Cod new sub.
thanks
Nice looking crop Ted! I have a NH 313 with the flails. Love that mower.
nice
WOW ..THE DRONE VIEW IS REALLY COOL
thanks
Sir thanks for showing wow the big tec of corn machine's have come a long way from 35 years s go. But yes sir thanks for showing us .
no problem
Planted that 2 years ago and I was able to get it dry even without a conditioning mower but it sure took about a week but made some really good hay and we got to cut it twice sure like that mower
I think this well have to lay a bit longer than a week
@@tedkahler9738 we cut ours at 6 ft but it's hotter here in tn but cows sure like it
wow that is cool.. This is a show my cows should watch.. if I had a tv for them lol
just put a tv out side in their pen and put it on my channel
That's some tall crop, I like the edge on my right side as well.
yea... more natural feeling
I love that job wish son day iff have job for my plese contacme mail carias32snur@gmail.com
nice i know some sunflowers do 12ft high but i prefer the 8fters for looks because chianti hybrid red ones kinda burgundy maroon but getting those to 12 ft would be sweet like to see these two tall crops side by side. thanks keep on plantin 💜👍
Yes I agree
"Do you know where you are? You're in the jungle, baby..."
"as welcome to the jungle" song plays in my head LOLOL
ruclips.net/video/kOKssMqPqIE/видео.html
Looks like elephant grass alright
Fill the land with smoke let the people know my wisdom.
We plant that a lot and if you leave it it’ll get even taller. we chop it and put it in egg bakes. Makes great feed for Cow. Does not need a lot of rain.
i have planted this for quite a while. Generally chop it but it will make some great feed in a round bale too...
Damn that mower really throws the hay back there compared to our Deere
I have noticed that some... The new Holland doesn't run a top shield but when its windy i adjust it to it doesnt throw it that high cause the wind can cause problems but if feel it fluffs the windrow more when its flying
Isnt this a roller conditioner instead of a finger conditioner
Valtra 6400 yess it is a roller conditioner
That's what I really was noticing too! Holy shit it's throwing it way back there!! Cutting really clean too for the amount of material going thru it.
If you ever need someone to help harvest, that looks like it would be fun.
harvest is always long and stressful. Too much to do not enough time
Well it's not necessarily fun
Cracking crop Ted..that will make some excellent forage for the cows..best regards from England.
Thanks for comming along from across the pond...
IT looks almost magical machine leving a beautiful ground with a windrow in the middle. Man it is tall
Holy god , jungle jim central lol , now that’s tall grass , it’s nice to have drone to help
yea it was pretty cool
Quiet tall... interesting machine... now I see how nails are made... auto steer...interesting... amazing how much work technology doing in the cab...
very tall
Wow Ted that is wild we had a field when I was a kid that got about that tall my dad's swather wouldn't even cut it he had to get somebody else to cut it it was amazing and I think but I think the stems were a little bit thicker it was a wet wet year and it was a great year for all the crops. The stuff we planted was like a cane it was called Sudax the cows love the stuff took two weeks I think for it to dry though
yea it takes some time to dry ... and a pretty good machine to cut it as well
Damn....now that is a mower👌
seems to do the job
@@tedkahler9738 why do you have no mower in the Front?
tractor here very seldom have a hitch or pto on the front.
@@tedkahler9738 Ok, here in Germany, almost every one has an Front Mower
Jojo yea I wish they were more commen here but I have only seen 2 of them my whole life
What variety is this and where did you find it? I'm going to put some haygrazer out next spring to see how it does for hay. Do you have any tips for this stuff?
You should do a video of all your equipment and what you have
naww... just watch enough videos and you can see what i have
We have a 1383 Massey Ferguson for a weather and we can run almost 6 miles an hour in 14 foot tall cane on a 7130 magnum
thats nice
Man that thing is really spitting compression artifacts out the back.
Like, the camera? I think youtube does that when they render the video before it gets posted.
@@f-j-Services It's a joke.
@@TheMetalButcher Oh lol! To me it seemed like the video has been compressed though in parts of it.
yep
That was cool watching the drone footage and seeing the mower push and then the gobs coming flying out. Can you imagine trying to cut that massive crop with out that good discbine. Was it a good year for cain or is it just a good variety. I baled some for a friend one year that was 6' tall and it laid for 5 weeks and we finally just baled it at 30% and he fed it before it warmed up in the spring. great vid
We have some pretty good dirt for this crop. I have some other stuff i plant but its shorter ... was planted later though but is way more leafy. So even thought how tall it is is impressive sometimes you have to step back and really look at the end result lol
@@tedkahler9738 Grandpa and Dad used to plant a lot of haygrazer... Grandpa liked to plant it super-thick because if you do it that way and cut it when it's about waist high, it's almost ALL LEAF and therefore VERY nutritious for the cows PLUS it's SO much easier to dry, which was important to him because back in the day all they had to cut it with was a Ford 501 sickle mower-- no conditioner! Stuff gets thick as hair on a dog's back but it SURE makes pretty hay!
Now for maximum tonnage, yeah you want to cut it right when it boots out for maximum quality at maximum tonnage-- after it heads out it starts turning to wood fairly quickly, so boot stage is really the ideal time to cut for max tonnage yields. Of course when it gets 8-10 feet tall there's a LOT of stalk in it and those stalks take a long time to dry, even if they're conditioned, but even more so if it's just straight cut with no conditioner. Planting it really thick of course increases the seed cost, BUT when you cut it at waist to maybe chest high and it's all leaf, the stems will only be about the size of a pencil or maybe a touch bigger maybe like your little finger, not big or bigger than your thumb like when you cut it at 8+ feet tall...
Later! OL J R :)
That's nice standing reminds me of the Johnson grass I bale.
kinda looks the same
Your 316 is a Beast, great video Bud👍
thanks for watching.... its been a great machine
you can make a drinking game out of this. everytime he sais "jungle" you have to drink a shot XD
LOL sure
But uhmmm
Reckon I only heard it twice.. that's a quite night on it.
500 ml shots will do the job anyways XD
10:30 , I hate it when that happens . 🙂
A drone screen inside the tractor might be an idea . Set the drone on follow for the first round . 🤷🏽♂️
Yea maybe……
We used to plant sudan for silage when we had a dairy farm back many years ago when I was a teen. It was hell to cut after a wind storm. They didn’t make machinery like you’re using back them.
yea things has changed alot even in just a few years!
Thick is an understatement!!! The cutter was gettin clogged up in spots, but unclogging itself too.
yea i seen that ... i think its just getting pushed ahead of the hood then goes through in wads but not really sure
I was waiting for someone to say that. I believe you can't see the back of the mower from where you're sitting in the tractor because of how tall the crop in fact you're were telling us about it clogging as it was clogging again, lol. I think that tractor has enough horsepower and that's a nice enough mower that it was taking care of it itself. You can also see the crop being pushed by the mower in the front of it. That is one heck of a good yield for that crop I think you were very smart for planting it. Nice set up 👌 too. Thanks for sharing!
The BALES! The BALES! They are RIGHT BESIDE YOU! lol
LOL YEP
I was at Cedar Point in Sandusky. This video was a ride there.
nice nice
Tractor was started and that smoke that was when he started back shaft, and there was needed big power for start rolling mower?
The rollers weigh several hundred pounds each and take a lot of energy to get up to speed.
tractor is tuned some so it just smokes when you speed up the engine
@@tedkahler9738 oh, understand, thanks. I thinked it is because clutch must "start" pump or something :-)
We just planted some of that see how it does did 35 acres of it but we planning just using corn head to harvest it
chopping id assume?
Yeah you bet
A friend of mine has silage it and swath grazes. He told me the the cows were crazy for it. Your cane looks very good
This stuff isnt as sweet tasting as some of the kinds... but i think it will be good feed either way it ends up
We are going so far to
I thought it was corn at first lol
haha
The view was cool bro! Great Vid! New Subscriber!
thanks
It’s called sadan grass. I flail chopped some today
Sudan grass*
yes it is
Totally cool video good job
thanks
Awsome . What plant is this? Îs it Sudan grass?
Take my advice: rip pt cut from ground one average plant. Put it in the ground . Measure with tape East and without climbing the mower
LOL i could have but it was nice to see the tops
lol. have some tonnage out there! is it regular sorghum Sudan grass? has it started to head out? vegetative growth has a LOT of nutrient value!! great energy and high TDN. here its used in a ration for steers with the cows just getting a little bit. are you using it for steers or cows?
IF i bale it it will be throwed into a tmr and be fed to everything. We feed everthing tmr when feeding EXCEPT when catttle are out on corn stalks and we want to supplement them some feed... then we will unroll bales. But everthing we feed gets tested and have a nutritionist make a balanced ration
Such a satisfying video
Thanks
Suppose you could have measured up to the middle of your tractor mirror whenever you got around to it? But then you are the one with the tractor and the cane... not me. You win!!
i could BUT......
That Sudan grass sure looks healthy. We use a lot of king grass
thanks
Thats......... nuts
LOL kinda
I got seasick watching this clip!
better get some sea legs
Looks like your cutting platform is plugging up by the Drone Video ?
It bunches some when. The stuff is that tall. I put lifters on and it helped that issue
Drones really make a video.
yes they do
Would be better to also use a front attachment to prevent driving it all down.
MrPummi88 it picks it all up when you go the other way..... most tractors in this area have no attachment or pto on the front
What is the reason for leaving such a narrow strip ? Just figured you have a reason and was curious what it is. And what is this grass called? Sorghum? Or is haygrazer the real name or is that like a generic term? Good video and thanks
Joshua Smith forage sorghum is real name. Was experimenting with narrow strip in the middle of a corn field to help with the nutrient needs of our cattle when they are grazing the corn stalks in the winter
@@tedkahler9738 ohh ok thanks. Yeah I figured you had a reason for it. Makes sense. Thanks for replying
Check out the lack of weeds in the field. Swap with a corn field next year. And you will find that the old herbicide fund. Is now staying in the bank.
you bet
Thats the same as sorgum ya? I worked on a farm in New Zealand and we grew that as a trial. It was too wet when it was ready for cows so we had to strip graze it....was funny watching the cows run into it and disappearing😂 just see the crop shaking😂 it was shit for milking off. In my experience and from what i think of it, it would make good silage for dry cows or part of a milking mix would be ok too i gues...cool video. Interesting how ye grow crops in narrow strips like that.
Normally dont farm in small strips but this was intend for the cows just to graze after i cut it when grazing the corn stubble in the winter months Trying to spend less on feed but still provide enough nutrients to cows when its cold out
It looks sooo good
thanks
Big field of corn looks like money to me lol
yep yep
Wow, you cant even tell there was ever cane there. That thing scalps/
does a good job
This is another irrelevant comment but, I am really sure if you made a "cocktail" of cane(sudex) sunnehemp and tall sunflowers you would get a very very nutritious feed for cows (it might even need some dumbing down since sunnhemp in good fields can be almost 35%protein)
inter planting things in our cain just wont work for us.... generally when i plant a field with cain its one of more weedy fields. and with having resistant weed problems all the way around us i cant afford not to use some pree emerge herbicides so that cuts out planting any broad leave plants along with it
Bet it smells good out there
yes it does
That is nuts. never seen anything like it.
Well thanks for watching it here... i will try to get some more drone footage of cutting more of this stuff
Una segadora de ese estilo la tuve yo hace unos 21 años, y puedo asegurar que no está haciendo un buen trabajo. La mía era una kuhn alterna 500, vamos fue el propotipo de esa serie de máquinas.
Por que no esta haciendo buen trabajo???
english? but it seems to be doing a great job for me/
im doing a fine job as well as the mower!
Did you ever get the protein checked on that stuff. That might work pretty good for me here on the farm for the cattle. Thanks for the video have a great evening
we test all the feed that is fed at our farm/ranch i prefer not to just piss into the wind i like to know my animals are getting exactly what they need for nutrition
That's your M.O. Elm, pissing in the wind and pissing off fellow farmers. And I guess crying and complaining and claiming to be a victim. I could add more but I'll be nice this morning.
@@jrice1091 butt hurt is back AGIAN lol
Alta Seed is a good one. King Fisher has some called Sugar Pro 55. I planted it this year vs. another variety that I had planted last year. It did good. Some chop it I did baleage with mine last year I tried to dry it this year and basically ruined my crop from all the rain. Luckily it was cut early enough to make second cut on it. Will go into baleage for sure this time.
Ted Kahler so then what is the protein level maybe somebody on here wants to plant some to feed to their cattle.
Holy crap!!! You will truly get that dry enough to bale it? Perfect world.....how many days?? Good stuff Ted!!!
14 days in perfect world but one thing about baling dry cain is you just dont worry about it for a while... might get rained on... snowed on... have baled some in march that tested the same quality as the stuff we baled in the fall... If it lays a month so be it... just cant get in a hurry
Im more of a john deere fan but that cheech at the beginning was hot
HAHAH
Woow, nice video !!
thanks
nice video
thankyou
Looks like a bumper crop!
this stuff is crazy
Why do you leave the bails in the field and not move them to the farm?
The bales weather fine.... and i dont want to have several thousand bales in one spot at the same time.... seems like a good way to loose all your hay if a fire breaks out!
Farming Simulator 21 footage from the drone.
HAHA
Beautiful
thankyou
Arial view looks like industrial hemp
lol
Nice looking crop Ted. What variety was it and seeding rate. Also when was it planted.
Thanks
seeding rate was 20 pounds per acre.... and it was some sort of sorghum sudan cross... i just walked into the local seed place and said i need some cheep seed and this is what i walked out with. I never even looked at the tag. planted at the end of june
Could you please move the camera around a little faster im not quite confused enough yet
colt191169 I sure can !!! Thanks for stopping by
What is this crop?looks amazing!
sorghum sudan
Ehsen sene👍
nice
Pretty cool.
thanks
You should have stack them bails like Pyramid 👍 then cut a trail or maze and charge people to see it 😁 They say if you stack something like a pyramid it cures better and last longer. You better feed them out 👍
yea pry should have i coulda been rich over that deal
Why arent you using front cutters on the tractor ? Instead of running the grass over ?
most of the tractors in the usa do not have front hitches or pto's so there few and far between here...
What style of grooves do the rollers have? Straight? "V"? Smooth roller?
The look like they're choking up pretty often.
its not chocking because of the rollers its actually getting slowed down by the front of the machine trying to push it down.... they are v style steel rollers
Have you considered growing biomass sorghum instead of this corn? They grow way bigger
that is a forage sorghum never heard of biomass type
@@tedkahler9738 There are different types of sorghum. One is for grain (most grown), there is one which is for syrup and one which is biomass sorghum, the biggest one grows over 4 m www.google.com/search?q=biomass+sorghum&rlz=1C1SQJL_enAU786AU786&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic1Lzc6sPjAhXn7nMBHV-1AFIQ_AUIESgB&biw=1366&bih=657
And remember sorghum is a drought tolerant C4 plant.
You should invest in a front mower :-/
No front pto's here as well as no front 3 points
That's when you hook one up to the back and drive backwards...
what is the best way tell is if you have nitrogen leaching.i was looking into it in my area that was my only worry.looking at millet for that reason.
younggunfarmer416 what do you mean nitrogen leaching?
i thought if you cut during a drought or just after a rain it could poison the cattle also after a frost?
nitrogen leaching would be nitrogen going into the ground but nitrate poisoning is what your pry thinking. First and for-most nitrate poisoning is not only common with this stuff but also common with oats rye barley millets as well as most other grasses. All should be checked and blended down if need be. And prussic acid is something i have never had problems with myself so im not very schooled in that may have to flipp over to google and search.
I was wondering that.The grown potential seems to be a lot higher on kane than millet.I was looking at feeding it direct to steers in the heat of summer.
@@tedkahler9738 Prussic acid CAN be a problem with sorghum sudan but more with Johnsongrass... they're all related (cousins) to each other anyway... The thing is, Prussic acid is hydrogen cyanide. When the grass is cut, it outgasses as the grass dries down. SO, if you're making it into DRY HAY then Prussic acid will simply outgas with the moisture as the hay dries down, and won't be a problem. Where you REALLY have to watch for Prussic acid is if your direct-grazing, green chop to feed immediately, or putting it up as silage or balage. Prussic acid can form when grass is injured by frost or after a dry spell when it gets some rain or water and suddenly greens up. Normally it will outgas from the plant naturally over about 5-7 days after the frost or greenup, then it SHOULD be safe to graze or chop. Always best to test though, because hydrogen cyanide is about the most poisonous substance known to man-- it can kill cattle within a couple minutes, usually on about their third bite if it's at high levels. Prussic acid poisoning results in a bright cherry red blood of the cattle affected from its reaction with the blood hemoglobin.
Nitrate poisoning is different in that it's more of a drought problem-- where water becomes the limiting factor to growth (drought conditions) in soils with high fertility (plenty of available nitrate fertilizer from heavily fertilized fields) the plants naturally gather nitrogen from the soil and concentrate it in the plant tissues, waiting sufficient water to put on a "growth spurt" where the stored nitrogen can be quickly used for growth and respiration of the grass. If sufficient water for this growth or respiration never comes, the nitrates simply remain concentrated and stored in the plant tissue. When it is cut or chopped, it remains in the plant regardless of whether its field-cured for dry hay, or chopped for green chop or silage, and it is not removed by fermentation or curing. Cattle ingesting excessive levels of nitrate get nitrate poisoning, where the animal's blood will basically look like chocolate milk-- it'll be a dark brown color instead of the normal "blood red" as the nitrates lock up the ability of the blood hemoglobin to absorb and carry oxygen, thus the animal asphyxiates and dies. The only solution for dealing with high nitrate forages is TESTING the nitrate levels and then DILUTION by mixing high-nitrate forages into blended rations that "thin the nitrates out" by mixing it with known LOW-nitrate level forage or fodder so animals cannot consume enough to absorb dangerous amounts of nitrate into the blood. Our extension services around here frequently warn farmers who suffer crop failures due to drought in corn and grain sorghum which is typically heavily fertilized for grain production, if they plan to harvest droughted-out corn or grain sorghum for hay (which is typically in short supply in droughty seasons and thus in high demand and a lucrative way to recoup crop losses) to be sure and have nitrate levels tested before feeding to ensure livestock aren't poisoned by nitrates. Generally speaking, if the field has NOT had a heavy application of fertilizer made on it (as in the amount you'd apply for a typical grain crop yield goal) then nitrates should NOT build to dangerous levels, but even in forage sorghum (sorghum/sudan) if the field is fertilized for maximum tonnage of hay or silage it SHOULD be tested in drought conditions...
Later! OL J R :)
Why no front mower? Would be much more efficient!
in the usa there are VERY FEW tractors with front hitches and even less implements for the front
Somehow doubt a front mower would handle it either!
Well at least you say something so I'll make sure she'll better than most others play music or no noise at all I will not watch it so thank you for saying something
thanks i like when people talk durring videos
Time to clean the Tractor out, probably 12 bucks worth of cans in there.
come on now.... there is only about 6 cans... and if you can get me 50 cents a can ill spit it with ya and i have a place i know where there is alot of cans
awesome, wow
well thanks
Was it able to dry out and you run it through the Baylor my question is what you able to bail it up ?
I did bale some of it and some of it we left and the cows ate it off the ground
@@tedkahler9738 did it bail pretty good and about how many bills did you get out of it considering you left some for the cows
L & M adventure it bales decent but had to lay 3-4 weeks. Got around 6-8 dry ton an acre on what I baled
Why wouldn't you take the duals off.
why would I? they dont hurt anything i like the ride with he duals AND when i drill i need the duals to support the weight of the drill on the tractor
Also those mowers are three point mounted. Duals are nice for stability.
WTH, that is one big field, seems to go on forever.
half mile
Front mover would be so awesome lol
maybe... but maybe just plugg radiator
I swear it looked to me like you were putting A LOT of dirt through that discabine
not dirt ... the camera couldnt focus on the material flying out of the mower very well as it was moving to fast SOOO that is the dark flying out
Ted Kahler Oh, I gotcha. I live in Southern Ky and cut A LOT of hay and I know from experience rocks are a disc mowers worst enemy!!
ted, your tractor needs to be cleaned.
Seems to work just fine the way it is.... It will get cleaned when i have time. I mean if your volunteering to come clean it feel free to get ahold of me. Clean tractors dont pay the bills any better than dirty ones. Im more concerned about paying my bills and cleaning at the moment