Cosman Wagon Vise / Tail Vise Install

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  • Опубликовано: 5 дек 2024

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  • @RobCosmanWoodworking
    @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад +2

    If you liked this video check out the video on The Cosman Workbench: ruclips.net/video/O0kN1URBUUQ/видео.html

  • @benjaminadair9548
    @benjaminadair9548 Год назад +4

    I built my first wagon vice last early spring using a D.F. 4x4 using very inexpensive hardware just to have one for some family projects I'm working on. I made it totally removable in one piece. Since I first saw your wagon vice I new that was the only way to go. I'm building a new bench this winter the wagon vice is going to be the star of that bench not a two day throw project. Thanks again for what you do and all uf us you have helped.

  • @michaelmcdermott2178
    @michaelmcdermott2178 Год назад +4

    I use a wagon vise and it's really a fine arrangement. My front vise is a leg vise and crochet/deadman on the far side. The combination gives me all the holdng I've ever needed. If I had it to do over I'd probably buy Rob's for the quality and the double start.

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Год назад +1

    If Rob puts his name behind something i know it's great! Been wanting to upgrade from "wagon vise" i made years ago when i build a new bench!

  • @christophervanmeier1648
    @christophervanmeier1648 Год назад +2

    Okay, I am convinced. If the opportunity arrises, could you show the side mount? Just starting my workbench and shop, but I will be constrained by space. As a vet, thank you for all that you do1

  • @delgoldthorpe4005
    @delgoldthorpe4005 Год назад

    thanks mate, great explanation of fixing and fitting...good to see a new vid, keep well :)

  • @wooddogg8
    @wooddogg8 Год назад +2

    Perfect timing and very good advice on the wood movement, I'm planning the install soon and would not have thought of that. I got the Taylor (taytools) version and I also bought a wheel for the screw end. Looks nicer than the handle that comes with the tool.

  • @timstratton9
    @timstratton9 11 месяцев назад

    @RobCosmanWoodWorking do you glue the dovetail end into the end cap thereby trapping the tailvice permanently?

  • @gadget1968
    @gadget1968 Год назад

    Great content many thanks for all that you do and teach

  • @jimshaver898
    @jimshaver898 Год назад

    I love that vise, good design

  • @gharel396
    @gharel396 Год назад +2

    Is there something wrong with a configuration where the thread goes through the moving part and is attached to the end of the hole in the workbench + adding thread on the moving part. I think that would make so the screw doesn't project out of the workbench and I don't think it needs any extra hardware. Just swap where it's attached and add a hole in the end of the workbench for the screw to turn loosely.

    • @robertlevine2152
      @robertlevine2152 Год назад

      I would consider an arrangement closer to Fireball Tool's Hard Tail Vice. A couple of features are enclosing the screw and adding a thrust bearing.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад

      Well you could but the better way to do that is attach the sliding block with a bearing that rides on the scre

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 Год назад +1

      This would be my choice also, a more compact arrangement and you are not absorbing the thrust with the end cap of the main slab, which let us face it, must deflect. Here is the fatal flaw of incorporating the nut into the wagon: the screw blocks the use of dogs in through mortises! Compromises must then be made, such as a much smaller screw.

  • @rostoi6985
    @rostoi6985 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for your explanation. I have a question : to me but i may be wrong, thé screw does not need to bé longer than thé distance between two (square) holes plus a few inch for thé installation. Why IS thé screw that long? Thanks.

  • @andrewpinson1268
    @andrewpinson1268 Год назад

    ROB "Sampson" Cosman good job on this video.

  • @patjackson1657
    @patjackson1657 Год назад +1

    Just a thought. With no great force required, would a wheel such as seen on a moxon vice be an option?

    • @MrSharper802
      @MrSharper802 Год назад +1

      Yes Rob mentioned that as an option. It works well but does not have the double travel that Rob's screw does.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад +2

      Our wagon vice does not come with a wheel opton, only the wood handles

  • @dragomirdichev1196
    @dragomirdichev1196 Год назад +1

    Not far ago I purchased both the RC Shoulder Vise and this exact Wagon Vise. I was surprised that the Wagon Vise extends outwards and it seems this is the only thing that can be improved here. Otherwise very well made and very solid hardware. I was just looking for instructions how to mount it.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад

      Yes thats one of the reasons we filmed this a sister video on the shoulder vise is coming

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Год назад

    And "big honking" things usually relate to quality specially if it's something beautiful as well!!!

  • @arthurmccutchan7000
    @arthurmccutchan7000 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @danthechippie4439
    @danthechippie4439 Год назад

    Hi Rob, would you recommend this vise for your mdf benches or is it aimed at the higher end benches like the one you
    deminstrate

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад

      You could add it to the Cosman bench and several folks have. The trick there is cutting out the cavity for fitting the vise into

  • @jimcooney9019
    @jimcooney9019 Год назад

    Thanks very good advice

  • @boriskogan666
    @boriskogan666 Год назад

    i built one of these benches a few years back (minus the tool well. hate them). used both a cosman shoulder and tail vise. pricey, to be sure. but you get what you pay for. the screws are of the highest build quality and the speed with which they turn is amazing. i absolutely love my tail vise. my favorite feature of the bench.

  • @rogerdudra178
    @rogerdudra178 Год назад

    Looks like a good idea.

  • @dpmeyer4867
    @dpmeyer4867 Год назад

    good job

  • @daveduncan9005
    @daveduncan9005 Год назад +1

    Conventional vises, like your example on the other bench, have dogs that perform the same function, although you might argue that there is side load instead of inline load. That's fair, but if you have to use so much force to hold down a piece that side load is an issue then you've overtightened the vise.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад

      Agreed. I was referring to normal operation of the vise when holding a piece of wood vertically in the vife against its face. All vises of this type have the same racking issue, although I think the Sjoberg vise does the best job of eliminating most of the rack.

    • @daveduncan9005
      @daveduncan9005 Год назад +1

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking True. My vise has a central dog, and with the vise being positioned near an edge I can clamp most work with no racking. It works for me... at least for now. Thanks, Sir.

  • @michaelc643
    @michaelc643 Год назад

    I made such a vice - stainless steel and brass , cost $ 50 and same work

  • @taylormedia1000
    @taylormedia1000 Год назад

    Great insight.

  • @TimBuchanan
    @TimBuchanan Год назад +1

    I wish I could have watched your "bench build" workshop series before I built my traditional tail vise (about 20 or so years ago)! The hardware I used can't reliably remain level when clamping - a defect your wagon wheel arrangement avoids. That hardware is pretty sweet, too. Maybe in my next workbench!

  • @paulhayton3423
    @paulhayton3423 Год назад

    Perfect.

  • @leehaelters6182
    @leehaelters6182 Год назад

    Rob, I am interested in the detail of the sliding "lugs" on the wagon. Is the wagon made this way for easy unclamping and replacement of those? All the best!

  • @skwalka6372
    @skwalka6372 Год назад

    An alternative design that disposes of the bulky handle is to use a regular clamp inserted from the front side of the bench to provide the closing force. In this case you can insert the wagon in one piece from the back end and all the reaction force is taken up by the clamp. I built this and it works beautifully, but it doesn't look as pretty as yours.

  • @trevortoop5166
    @trevortoop5166 Год назад

    Jesus! You have risen!!!!

  • @kevingriffin8022
    @kevingriffin8022 Год назад

    First I enjoy your videos, but I was shocked by the price of this vise. I noticed in your 10 woods you hate video, you were using a wood piece to hold wider boards in the vise. For the amount you are charging for basically a one trick pony vise, you can buy a Klein twin screw and not have the wide board and other issues. Sorry, but your vise, although beautifully designed and built, it is just arm candy. The Klein is fast, no racking, and compact. Sorry you need to rethink your vise

    • @petemclinc
      @petemclinc 8 месяцев назад

      The Hovarter mechanism wagon vise with quick release is a much better design and
      simpler to install. It's halt the price of Rob's screw job!

    • @sjeff70
      @sjeff70 5 месяцев назад

      I wonder how long the mechanisms last on the Hovarter. There’s no warranty info on the website. I don’t mind it taking a little longer to install if it’s a simple mechanism that will last.

  • @blayne2029
    @blayne2029 Год назад

    I'm a newbie, but much of this was incomprehensible. Too much detail, too fast.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  Год назад +2

      Sorry but as good as we try to cover every skill level that watches we cannot get everyone. Installing a wagon vise is not a beginner operation. You need to get some woodwork time under your belt. Watch it a couple times and I think you will get it. If you still have questions submit them to our customer support system at Robcosman.com

    • @blayne2029
      @blayne2029 Год назад

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking Agreed!