I have the same theory on black in a HT, so I'm glad to find there are other crazy people out there. I find it hilarious that people do extravagant things that worsen movie watching, and they put them in a room where you turn off the light and can't see them. Paint is definitely not the way. My bat cave is using fabric track, but only 36" velvet from the screen wall. The rest is fire safe black fabric. The only reason I don't do the whole room in velvet is it absorbs high frequencies and having too much absorption messes with the audio.
Duuude - I just bought some black paint, and was about to paint my theatre, BUT i was also going to do some areas in velvet. Now I'm thinking about returning the paint and going all velvet. Not cheap, but the effect is amazing. Thanks for sharing!
Great video. I am building panels using the Acousticmac DMD fabric with everything (diffusion, absorption, speakers) behind it. I had this same problem with my "black" paint. I like the idea of the curtains as well. Will def add that to the front if the fabric is still too reflective.
The very front face of my theater room is black paint with no fabric covering. There is zero effect on the room so leaving the front wall plain black is ok. Unless you want the curtains for impact when one walks into the room or to mask your screen when watching 16x9 content on a scope screen.
This was awesome. I had 60 1:4 sw sideshow figures in besta with tombo doors. Just removed them. You can remove your pitch material with your velvet. Will black out me ceiling as I put up some qrd7 diffusers wrapped in audio transparent 701’s. Thanks for the input!
Since paneling is about $50 a sheet now would it be possible to adhere the velvet to the painted drywall? With say a spray adhesive? And if so what is the advantage of using paneling? Thank you, awesome video!
Nice. So, you wrapped velvet cloth around a plywood to make a panel.. Then you made many other similar panels, and put those panels on the walls. Right ? How did you attach those panels onto the drywall on the side walls, and rear wall?
Looks so good! I've been seeing these pictures around the AVS Forum. I'm curious, is the room overly dead, or is the triple black velvet thin enough to where it doesn't roll off the highs too much?
The velvet is not completely sound dampening and allows most sound to pass through. However, when entering the room there is definitely a calming silence that makes it super relaxing and easy to pick up the most subtle of sounds coming from the speakers at any volume. If room acoustics are important to you, I doubt the velvet will be harmful.
Black on black on black blah. I mean, I believe in working with dark colors on theaters but Sheeeeesh. Watching a movie, you’re going to see the walls regardless just from the reflection of the light. Doesn’t matter if the walls are black or a medium to dark gray. In my eyes, the movie theater Has to be aesthetically pleasing as well.
I built my theater with the intent of having just the movie floating in a black void and I accomplished that. You can build yours however you want. Please share your videos with us.
@@MancaveCentral1 Sorry, I take back the criticism. You have a very nice theater! I like it a lot. I just wouldn’t have went with all black. I would have went with different shades like a gray and black to offset each other. I just completed my theater. I’m sorry for the criticism because I know I wouldn’t have liked it either if someone said it to me. Sorry.
Brighter is more of a perception when richer colors and deeper blacks create a more complete image. There's no light bounce so the image is more saturated. My projector in general is already very bright and is on eco mode but when the image isn't made to fight washout out colors from light bounce you don't need the added brightness.
That is a legitimate question that I have asked myself. I have an air purifier in the room that I run every so often. I also vacuum, and dust the hard surfaces every few weeks as well as wash the black blankets. Trying to reduce the amount of dust build up in the room may help over time but I cannot say for sure how things will be in a few years. I've never blanketed a room in velvet before so only time will tell.
What adhesive did you use and how thick of plywood? Looks 1/4”. Great video, will black out my ceiling the same way. How did you make such clean holes, did you install velvet then holevsaw it as one unit?
Lol I had 60+ sideshow 1:4 Star wars statues in my theater room plus 28+ besta with tombo glass, talk about reflections and sound bounce. I relocated them and added 2’x4’ absorption, qrd7, and some skyline diffusers all wrapped in black Gilford of Maine 701 33’ to the ceiling. Hope they don’t look grey, I’m sure 30 yards seems like a lot but will prob go fast. Just ordered from Amazon…
Underlayment is slightly thinner than standard 1/4" plywood. I used a spare pot light as the cut out template and then ran a jigsaw around the circle. I wrapped the velvet on the panels after the all holes were cut out then trimmed out the velvet.
Rosco TV Paint - Black can be found at B&H Photo online. It's the closest possible way to paint a room black without major reflections and getting a bank loan. It's chalky and easy to mark up and damage plus it needs to be diluted and sprayed on. It's a ton of work. The texture makes it so that you better not touch it or your will see the marks. That's bad news for most people. The issue with actual light absorbing paint is they have a not family friendly because of the surface and it's STILL not as good as black velvet.
@@MancaveCentral1 interesting, thanks for the info! ok, I am going to consider the black velvet. perhaps I will paint the ceiling and velvet that walls. then some acoustic panels too. velvet might help a little acoustically also.
@@MancaveCentral1 if I use velvet, do you think it's even necessary to texture/paint the drywall or should I skip that process. Or is it better to start with at least the dark Home Depot paint like you have. I don't really mind spending some money to do it right at this point, but I don't want to do unnecessary steps either if it's going to be completely blacked out by the velvet.
I wasted a lot of time and money painting the walls black that were eventually covered in velvet. At least prime the walls whatever color you want that will be covered in velvet. The exposed walls then should be painted in a flat black.
How did you mount the acoustic panels once the velvet panels were already up? I'm using Z clips to hang my acoustic panels & tryna think of a way to put up velvet panels
The velvet panels are build with a plywood-like board then attached to the drywall. Then the z-clips provided with the acoustic panels are attached to the plywood velvet panels. Those are wood and grab the screws better than drywall would.
@@MancaveCentral1 does the velvet not get ruined or lose its tightness when you screw into the velvet panel? Also how did you attach the velvet panels to the drywall? I was thinking small brad nails
Wrong paint musou black is the blackest and can be purchased in its own base that doesn’t have titanium dioxide which is the white refractory compound in paint
I don’t mean to pee on your cornflakes, but did you check with the manufacturer regarding flammability? I checked the Amazon listing you showed and it was not listed. What’s worse is that a couple of questions and comments regarding this say that the fabric is extremely flammable. I would think again about keeping it. There are class a rated alternatives that will give you a fighting chance in case of fire.
I have the same theory on black in a HT, so I'm glad to find there are other crazy people out there. I find it hilarious that people do extravagant things that worsen movie watching, and they put them in a room where you turn off the light and can't see them. Paint is definitely not the way. My bat cave is using fabric track, but only 36" velvet from the screen wall. The rest is fire safe black fabric. The only reason I don't do the whole room in velvet is it absorbs high frequencies and having too much absorption messes with the audio.
With great light control comes great contrast. -SpiderMan
Duuude - I just bought some black paint, and was about to paint my theatre, BUT i was also going to do some areas in velvet. Now I'm thinking about returning the paint and going all velvet. Not cheap, but the effect is amazing. Thanks for sharing!
You went postal on light reflection.... light will never mess with You again... loved it
Perfect. I do not understand why people still use paint for their HT rooms. There's enough resources out there to tell you black velvet is unbeatable.
ever heard about musou black paint ?
@@n0stradam0s yeah i used it. its shit compared to velvet. i got rippped off. better than normal paint tho.
This looks awesome, would love to do something like this one day
You should!
Great video. I am building panels using the Acousticmac DMD fabric with everything (diffusion, absorption, speakers) behind it. I had this same problem with my "black" paint. I like the idea of the curtains as well. Will def add that to the front if the fabric is still too reflective.
The very front face of my theater room is black paint with no fabric covering. There is zero effect on the room so leaving the front wall plain black is ok. Unless you want the curtains for impact when one walks into the room or to mask your screen when watching 16x9 content on a scope screen.
This was awesome. I had 60 1:4 sw sideshow figures in besta with tombo doors. Just removed them. You can remove your pitch material with your velvet. Will black out me ceiling as I put up some qrd7 diffusers wrapped in audio transparent 701’s. Thanks for the input!
Yes.... You did a great job.. I presume you have an amazing sound system to go with it..
Thanks for sharing! The velvet looks great!
This looks awesome!!
This is amazing. I am inspired.
The perfect black you're looking for is the VANTA black without any reflection ;D
Musou black is blacker
Except now you have a black so deep that a small flashlight can burn your house down
need more videos of your room please. amazing. velvet star ceiling?
My channel has all that.
Since paneling is about $50 a sheet now would it be possible to adhere the velvet to the painted drywall? With say a spray adhesive? And if so what is the advantage of using paneling? Thank you, awesome video!
Cool af👍👍👍
Nice.
So, you wrapped velvet cloth around a plywood to make a panel..
Then you made many other similar panels, and put those panels on the walls.
Right ?
How did you attach those panels onto the drywall on the side walls, and rear wall?
A combination of screws and finishing nails.
Looks so good! I've been seeing these pictures around the AVS Forum. I'm curious, is the room overly dead, or is the triple black velvet thin enough to where it doesn't roll off the highs too much?
The velvet is not completely sound dampening and allows most sound to pass through. However, when entering the room there is definitely a calming silence that makes it super relaxing and easy to pick up the most subtle of sounds coming from the speakers at any volume. If room acoustics are important to you, I doubt the velvet will be harmful.
Mosou black is the blackest paint in the world. They also make a kiwami fabric which is the darkest material on earth
Black on black on black blah. I mean, I believe in working with dark colors on theaters but Sheeeeesh. Watching a movie, you’re going to see the walls regardless just from the reflection of the light. Doesn’t matter if the walls are black or a medium to dark gray. In my eyes, the movie theater Has to be aesthetically pleasing as well.
I built my theater with the intent of having just the movie floating in a black void and I accomplished that. You can build yours however you want. Please share your videos with us.
@@MancaveCentral1 Sorry, I take back the criticism. You have a very nice theater! I like it a lot. I just wouldn’t have went with all black. I would have went with different shades like a gray and black to offset each other. I just completed my theater. I’m sorry for the criticism because I know I wouldn’t have liked it either if someone said it to me. Sorry.
Do you have a link to your build on AVS. Thanks
No but I do have the build videos as a playlist already on my channel. ruclips.net/p/PLE3jgzi1rrbjOkxT9IQtuDvgBmoKjZ4ko
Do you feel the projected image looks brighter now that you have all the velvet up?
Brighter is more of a perception when richer colors and deeper blacks create a more complete image. There's no light bounce so the image is more saturated. My projector in general is already very bright and is on eco mode but when the image isn't made to fight washout out colors from light bounce you don't need the added brightness.
This or adhesive velvet flocking?
Ever considered musou black paint?
having that much velvet, what about dust/lint build up over the years?
That is a legitimate question that I have asked myself. I have an air purifier in the room that I run every so often. I also vacuum, and dust the hard surfaces every few weeks as well as wash the black blankets. Trying to reduce the amount of dust build up in the room may help over time but I cannot say for sure how things will be in a few years. I've never blanketed a room in velvet before so only time will tell.
This Home Theater is called either the Djimon Honsou or Wesley Snipes edition 🤣🤣
What adhesive did you use and how thick of plywood? Looks 1/4”. Great video, will black out my ceiling the same way. How did you make such clean holes, did you install velvet then holevsaw it as one unit?
Lol I had 60+ sideshow 1:4 Star wars statues in my theater room plus 28+ besta with tombo glass, talk about reflections and sound bounce. I relocated them and added 2’x4’ absorption, qrd7, and some skyline diffusers all wrapped in black Gilford of Maine 701 33’ to the ceiling. Hope they don’t look grey, I’m sure 30 yards seems like a lot but will prob go fast. Just ordered from Amazon…
Underlayment is slightly thinner than standard 1/4" plywood. I used a spare pot light as the cut out template and then ran a jigsaw around the circle. I wrapped the velvet on the panels after the all holes were cut out then trimmed out the velvet.
but why can't we buy black paint. is there something available in the USA?
Rosco TV Paint - Black can be found at B&H Photo online. It's the closest possible way to paint a room black without major reflections and getting a bank loan. It's chalky and easy to mark up and damage plus it needs to be diluted and sprayed on. It's a ton of work. The texture makes it so that you better not touch it or your will see the marks. That's bad news for most people. The issue with actual light absorbing paint is they have a not family friendly because of the surface and it's STILL not as good as black velvet.
@@MancaveCentral1 interesting, thanks for the info! ok, I am going to consider the black velvet. perhaps I will paint the ceiling and velvet that walls. then some acoustic panels too.
velvet might help a little acoustically also.
@@MancaveCentral1 if I use velvet, do you think it's even necessary to texture/paint the drywall or should I skip that process. Or is it better to start with at least the dark Home Depot paint like you have.
I don't really mind spending some money to do it right at this point, but I don't want to do unnecessary steps either if it's going to be completely blacked out by the velvet.
I wasted a lot of time and money painting the walls black that were eventually covered in velvet. At least prime the walls whatever color you want that will be covered in velvet. The exposed walls then should be painted in a flat black.
@@MancaveCentral1 sounds good... thank you for the advice, fren.
What carpet did you use? I’m trying to find some for my theater room
www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMaster-8-in-x-8-in-Texture-Carpet-Sample-Watercolors-II-Color-Pepper-SH-368271/300417363
How did you mount the acoustic panels once the velvet panels were already up? I'm using Z clips to hang my acoustic panels & tryna think of a way to put up velvet panels
The velvet panels are build with a plywood-like board then attached to the drywall. Then the z-clips provided with the acoustic panels are attached to the plywood velvet panels. Those are wood and grab the screws better than drywall would.
@@MancaveCentral1 does the velvet not get ruined or lose its tightness when you screw into the velvet panel? Also how did you attach the velvet panels to the drywall? I was thinking small brad nails
Wrong paint musou black is the blackest and can be purchased in its own base that doesn’t have titanium dioxide which is the white refractory compound in paint
Vanta Black paint would have been perfect!
Also a nightmare to clean if touched or grazed.
I don’t mean to pee on your cornflakes, but did you check with the manufacturer regarding flammability? I checked the Amazon listing you showed and it was not listed. What’s worse is that a couple of questions and comments regarding this say that the fabric is extremely flammable. I would think again about keeping it. There are class a rated alternatives that will give you a fighting chance in case of fire.
I'll be sure to have you come and piss on the fire. Save the cornflakes.
that black paint is not even close to the blackest paint you can get. Black 3.0 paint makes velvet look white....
This is amazing. I am inspired.