as someone who doesnt have particular interest in diving, i have to say that i find myself coming back to this channel often and i always end up watching the whole video. you guys do a great job and all the commentary is very interesting
That was indeed a tough one. You can feel how serious it is just by watching their reactions. Different than other vídeos there are no stops to explain which errors were made. They did everything right, and the thing colapsed. It is a real risk and you can mitigate it, but not neutralize it. Huge respect for cave divers. Thank you Woody and Gus for sharing this video!
As someone whose only experience with this stuff is videos. I never even imagined the risk disturbing supportive water posed. I didn't even know that was a thing!
@@tylergoins2026 Even on land you can get swallowed up by a damn sink hole. That one where those peoples son’s whole bedroom got sucked under ground was terrifying. He was just sleeping in his bed and his whole room went under. He of course passed. 😢
You can't underestimate the power/force of the air you breath out in a closed environment. I went ice diving once during the winter with a group of other divers. The air we exhaled was slowly pushing the ice up as we were all diving the same route from point A to B. Finally someone started drilling holes in the ice because it was starting to crack, air just spurted out like crazy because of the build up pressure.
Thanks for sharing. That is really a great example of something rarely mentioned. Ice diving must be really interesting, a stark contrast all the warm water dives we usually hear about.
@@angelachouinard4581most of the dives we hear about especially on this channel and others the water is cold even the Springs in Florida is considered cold!!!
I’m glad you’re back! I feel a little embarrassed to say, because it’s such a tiny little step, but I’ve managed to lose 67 pounds and counting. I started swimming in my brother’s saltwater pool, then I got a decent snorkeling set. It’s not scuba, but I’ve practiced in steps, getting comfy with hearing and slowing my breathing and heart rate, attempting to swim to the pool floor (snorkel valve closes), especially hard in salt water I guess, and most of all, learning to relax ands lightly bend my knees when I’m relaxed underwater and using the fins. I can’t believe how fast I can move. For the first time, I’m beginning to wonder if I can at least get a scuba experience in the pool. Big steps for me. Update: I’ve now lost 105 pounds!
This is my Fav RUclips channel that covers something I know absolutely nothing about. Thanks you legends for being so educative, entertaining and informative!
I like what you guys were saying at the end of the video how diving isn’t completely safe. I’m not a diver but I am a skier up here in MT and there’s only so much you can do to prevent bad outcomes from avalanches and such. It all comes down to risk management, preparedness, and common sense. We had a couple seasons in a row where there were a couple deaths around the state from skiing and even one at my local resort. Doesn’t mean it’s not safe however, like diving, you need to be very thoughtful in what your doing and how your going to do it safely.
"I'm not allowed to dive"....."I dive a little" why even make the statement that you can't dive when your next sentence literally contradicts it? Do you always make cloen comments?
@@thedoge9590 pretty sure he’s trying to say he can’t dive because of his medical condition, but he feels like he can still experience diving by watching their videos. You gotta have at least an average IQ to figure that out, though
@@therealsnakes if OP had at least average intelligence they'd write the sentence correctly instead people having to make assumptions on it's meaning but hey you keep making assumptions. What a clown lol
Gus you're looking fantastic! I have been working on some other things, so I haven't watched you guys in a while. WOW! Now you can go in all those tight squeezes youve been wanting to go! I'm so happy for you!
Omg, i just clicked the link to watch the previous video on Indian Springs and the amount of weight that Gus has lost is admirable! way to go my friend, legendary achievement!
I appreciate your enthusiasm for cave diving. I have been a master diver since 1983 and have enjoyed dives around the world. I have never had a desire to cave dive and would never consider it. I am a non-cave diver.
I admire you guys for taking all those risks. I could never do it. Being inside a submerged cave like that would completely freak me out. But I really like watching the fascinating video footage of all those caves.
Thank you Gus and Woody. You guys know I don't dive. I had to pause half way through. It's phenomenal the training and experience you guys go through. Thank you so much for putting videos like this out and explaining them in as much detail as you can. I appreciate every single video...funny or serious. Much love to you guys and the whole dive community. ❤❤
I’ve spent many weekends at Camp Indian Springs back when it was rented out as a functional camp. There was a small wood dock and a canoe shed. Many an alligator would come up to the shore and sunbathe. It was significantly smaller than Wakulla Springs which is a public spring just a few miles down the road. Edit: you are correct Sirs. The picture at 7:55 is the first picture of Indian Springs in this video.
Been watching you all for almost a year…nothing you guys post make me want to cave dive. Mostly makes me question why you all do it…however…great content thank you guys!!!
i’ve been a silent watcher of the channel for a while now and i just gotta say Gus is looking so good! i’m not sure if the drop in weight was intentional but he’s looking great!! love y’all! just wanted to give some props.
If a drop in weight is not intentional, it's medically a bad sign -- so it's best not to randomly congratulate how someone looks if they may not have lost weight on purpose.
@@miashinbrot8388 the channel liked the comment and many others are commenting that he's been working on it. A drop in weight due to medical reasons is very obvious physically, people usually aren't glowing from that like he is currently. pls find someone else to try to lecture about weight comments. --speaking as someone that's experienced medical weight loss and intentional weight loss, people don't need you to speak for them and defend a fictional scenario! :) thanks though! have a great day.
This is so sad. The situation is literally one of my worst fears. As Woody said that there is a point where u have a thought "I'm going to die" this is so so sad. Not only the guy was burried alive but in an underwater cave! Such a tragedy, usually it is easy to rationalise things and say that something could have not happen if there was no mistakes, but in this situaition nothing could have been done better. They did everything right and the man still died :(
You guys are really cool! I have great respect and admiration for what you do. I really like your videos and how you explain things, even though I'm not a scuba diver I've already learned a lot of lessons from you on what to do and especially what NOT to do😬 I wish you all the best, thank you from Brazil!
It occurs to me that cave diving is like reverse mountain climbing listening to you both talk of the dangers. And who can plan for EVERY SINGLE possibility? That's unrealistic IMHO. So, you plan as best you can and go from there: Mother Nature is a fickle b***h. Keep up the great videos, guys, educational and fun.
Dude imagine knowing your about to drown and escaping narrowly, then have to sit there for hours knowing your buddy didn’t make it. It’s like getting into a car accident where your friend flew thru the window and died but you are force to sit in the car for hours thinking about it
I would imagine the geology of the area has a role to play in assessing the safety, too. How stable or fragile do structures tend to be in the area, what was going on when things were formed that might influence stability, etc.
And here i thought that ( Rick Stanton & John Volanthen ) did the longest distance cave dive of (5.5 miles = 8.85 kilometers) in the Pozo Azul Cave System in Covenera, Spain.
I'm not certain about the phenomenon that could have caused the cave ceiling collapse, but it could be due to the following two separate phenomena or even a combination of both: Considering the normal water density at 1 ton/m³ and the density of limestone between 1.8 and 3 tons/m³. A force resulting from Archimedes' buoyancy principle applied to the rock amounts to 1 ton for a rock weighing between 1.8 and 3 tons, countering the rock's gravitational force. To cause the collapse, there would need to be an air pocket in the upper part of the cave passage where the water is completely replaced by the exhaled air of the divers. Consequently, the rock's cohesion, which was sufficient to keep the rock attached to the ceiling underwater, might no longer be sufficient in the air. This aligns with Guss's explanation. The second phenomenon that I seemed to understand from the commented video is more related to the water density itself. Water into which a lot of small-diameter bubbles are injected can easily contain 15 to 20% of its volume as long as the air source doesn't stop. As a result, the water's density decreases by 15 to 20%, and the Archimedes buoyant force on the rock diminishes accordingly. This second effect is less significant, but one can imagine that if the rock's cohesion was already very weak, this variation alone could also trigger the collapse. It's possible that both phenomena occurred. I don't think it's possible to be certain.
29 hours of decompression,wow😮! I love watching you guys dive,and thank you for taking us along on your diving adventures. Love hearing about your adventures over the years. I’m way too claustrophobic. I’ll stick to snorkeling in swallow water ;)
always look 4ward to gus n woodys videos . they explain everything so well. my dad was a navy diver from the 50s till 73 end of vietnam war .he tried to get me into diving but sadly i couldnt do it. i love the water n love being offshore in rivers ect fishing or just in a kyak paddleing around enjoying nature .i envy both of you guys n love the vids of dives in ocean n caves .i couldnt get into diving because i have a short patience n would stuff up deco times plus i dont know why but if i cant see the bottom my feet n me stay on terrafirma lol spose being honest to my dad n me has saved my life n maybe a few others too .i sent you an email bout 4 days ago but yet have no reply ??? cheers from australia great barrier reef area
WKPP. I know a lot about wooden roller coasters, traditional amusement parks, aircraft structural maintenance, flying, but almost nothing about diving. However, from watching your excellent videos I get the impression that you two are high-level professionals, or at least close. Whatever the requirements might be to participate in this organization, WKPP, I feel as though you both could do it. Maybe I’m wrong. But I did hear you say “I’d pay an insane amount of money to dive Indian Springs.” GO FOR IT! I think you’re capable. I never thought I’d ride every wood roller coaster in the U.S. or be in a position of influence in parks deciding to buy & move a wood coaster, or be engineering the most advanced aircraft ever built (the F-35), but I’ve done these things. You can dive Indian Sorings if you want to bad enough, just like I will fly and own and work on a P-51 Mustang WWII fighter plane someday! We can accomplish great stuff!
Well, thank you. We can definitely dive at Indian Springs, and we would love to. But the WKPP divers are just world-class and of the highest caliber, they have vast experience and insane skills, we are nowhere near that level and to even think we are even close to matching that would be childish from our part. We know our skills, and understand we'll never be part of that elite group of cave divers, and that's okay. Not everyone will or can get to that level of commitment. Organizations like WKPP and KUR do amazing exploration and we highly respect, admire, and look up to those cave explorers.
Thanks again guys for always making us aware. How sad is this story? It's heartbreaking because it was nothing they did wrong. A loss is so hard anyway but especially involving a man of such drive for knowledge to ensure safety for others.
@@DIVETALK I just watched the diver stabbing himself video. I’m sure this has been mentioned as I’m just a keyboard warrior but wouldn’t putting and eye bolt or whatever in that air pocket(or every single one for that matter) allow people to clip on and and at least asphyxiate “peacefully”?Hope y’all see this I know it’s after the fact
8 kilometres from air !! Wow. Um. Yeah. 16 hrs of decomp. You are trusting your gear and training to the max doing that. Congrats to those dudes and deep respect from a Kiwi brother.
I'm hearing those freakin numbers and all I can do is like pick up my jaw from the keyboard. Did they set some of these records in one actual dive? Insanity
I am a silent watcher who will never go diving in my life, 😅( I would get super anxious & worried) But became obsessed with learning about it after watching a free diving video and being completely blown away that people can go that deep & hold their breath 😳anyways your channel was recommended and I have been hooked ever since, for some reason even though I have no desire to ever dive 🥴 on another note wow Gus you look amazing!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Yes I have asthma and then I got covid and my lungs got damaged I'm 60 but when I have an asthma attack it's super scary but my medicine keeps it under control. Sometimes I sit around and start getting stressed out and worried about having an attack and that can make one happen. Somehow and I'm not sure how, these videos started coming across my feed and I started watching them. When I hear stories about people who are diving and they get stuck there is nothing like that, to make you realize that you're okay and that you're breathing and that you can breathe still and that if you stay calm, everything's going to be fine. These videos are my therapy. No way would I ever go into any environment in which my oxygen is limited. That includes diving, outer space and climbing tall mountains like Mount Everest.
I think this is the same incident Mr. Ballen covered in one of his stories. Was squaw’s restriction ever cleared out after this or is it too dangerous to even attempt now?
As always, informative and entertaining in equal amounts. It's always a huge relief to be "guided" by you two, when seeing other content creator's coverage of cave diving! I learn far more from you two correcting gaffs and outright fallacies in these reactions, then from the original content! You're reactions add a sort of quality control, to the sometimes otherwise shaky information put out by some of these YT channels. 👍🤘
I've never been claustrophobic, now in my early 50's I'm getting there for some reason. My biggest fear is being trapped where I cannot move, slowly ending in a horrific death. Add the water and that is just the worst way to go!
I've had so much fun watching your new documentary in Mexico and watching the live stream from cozumel, guys. Really good stuff 👍 love what you both do and look forward to more in the future
I’m new to this channel and I’ve been watching daily now for the past week. You guys have great chemistry and make every video intriguing to watch. I never thought diving was so dangerous. The both of you are great at what you do. I’m a fan for life😀
Holy crap! I haven't watched in a while but Gus you look great! You appear healthier than ever from the weight you have dropped and applaud the willpower it takes to come this far!
My grandpa has mapped many caves and dove a ton of ship wrecks even found a ship wreck in one of the great lakes he always talked about how important it is to remain calm and always use your line
Idk why this channel popped in to my feed. But That diving at chernobyl video got me. Ive never dived in my life and now im binge watching these nightmares. I used a snorkle in my grandmas pool once
Florida is filled with pine trees. There’s also a town called Christmas, which was named after their Christmas trees. People think it’s all beach & palm trees, but it’s actually swamp and pines
I absolutely love your Channel. I’ve learned so much about Cave Diving from both of you. Wish I was brave enough to learn to dive. I have severe claustrophobia and could NOT imagine being under water in a cave.
To point out and honor the extraordinary achievements & credentials of others is what elevates you to the highly respected humble, classy people among us!
I am not a cave diver & will never be. I developed my respect for the water as a surfer, in my youth. But that was above the surface. Sure, there were some close calls, but I never feared for my life. Personally, I view what you do as the ''risk equivalent'' of ''free soloing''. One misstep & the consequences shift from sketchy to life threatening. On your channel, you have documented the tragedies that have befallen some divers that you deemed as legends in the pursuit. Which tells me that, regardless of experience & preparedness, there is always unforeseen risks. I hope to continue to enjoy your content for years to come. Please stay safe.
Holy cow, Gus. You’re looking really fit man. Haven’t tuned in for a while but you guys definitely made me a fan. Good to see you guys still going strong
The way you guys talk about diving and your enthusiasm truly makes for a great experience for viewers. Your channel single handedly got me into diving videos, and reasons to NEVER dive haha! Keep up the great work, take care.
Dang Gus be looking stout he be telling everybody ill make it now watch me no more turning around for gus he gonna fit lol you looking good brother diet and workout must be working good for ya always love yalls videos im ready for some more cave diving from you and woody thanks for sharing😊
Had something similar happen to me. I'm a professional firefighter for 30 years all in. I was in a fire in an apartment building following hoseline to the nozzle man. All the sudden I hit a immovable object with hoseline going under it. I couldn't understand what happened. Long story short a fridge had fallen thru floor lodging in floor and separating us. At the time it's just hard to grasp.
😅❤ my favorite cave divers ever, Gus and woody😊😊 I've missed you fellas, love your content guys, especially the knowledge care and details you put in to every video. love always from Tasmania 🇦🇺 southern hemisphere ❤
as someone who doesnt have particular interest in diving, i have to say that i find myself coming back to this channel often and i always end up watching the whole video. you guys do a great job and all the commentary is very interesting
Gus been hitting the gym or something. Kudos
First thing i noticed hahah dude is looking great
Lol. Same! Gus trying to hit them restrictions! ;)
That's what I was thinking 😂
@@adammeade2300 Calorie restrictions are the only ones I'm willing to get in
He’s a beast
That was indeed a tough one. You can feel how serious it is just by watching their reactions. Different than other vídeos there are no stops to explain which errors were made. They did everything right, and the thing colapsed. It is a real risk and you can mitigate it, but not neutralize it. Huge respect for cave divers. Thank you Woody and Gus for sharing this video!
As someone whose only experience with this stuff is videos. I never even imagined the risk disturbing supportive water posed. I didn't even know that was a thing!
You guys never fail to deliver a good dose of anxiety.
Makes me want to stay on land that’s crazy scary but cool at the same time
You can say that again! 😮
@@tylergoins2026 Even on land you can get swallowed up by a damn sink hole. That one where those peoples son’s whole bedroom got sucked under ground was terrifying. He was just sleeping in his bed and his whole room went under. He of course passed. 😢
I feel like it's the other way around with them. I'd trust these guys too much 😂.
Seriously though!!!!
You can't underestimate the power/force of the air you breath out in a closed environment. I went ice diving once during the winter with a group of other divers. The air we exhaled was slowly pushing the ice up as we were all diving the same route from point A to B. Finally someone started drilling holes in the ice because it was starting to crack, air just spurted out like crazy because of the build up pressure.
Wow that’s something I’ve never considered.
Your lungs can hold up to 6 liters of air, so every exhale you can imagine how much volume that is collecting under the ice
Woah! That's insane!
Thanks for sharing. That is really a great example of something rarely mentioned. Ice diving must be really interesting, a stark contrast all the warm water dives we usually hear about.
@@angelachouinard4581most of the dives we hear about especially on this channel and others the water is cold even the Springs in Florida is considered cold!!!
I’m glad you’re back! I feel a little embarrassed to say, because it’s such a tiny little step, but I’ve managed to lose 67 pounds and counting. I started swimming in my brother’s saltwater pool, then I got a decent snorkeling set. It’s not scuba, but I’ve practiced in steps, getting comfy with hearing and slowing my breathing and heart rate, attempting to swim to the pool floor (snorkel valve closes), especially hard in salt water I guess, and most of all, learning to relax ands lightly bend my knees when I’m relaxed underwater and using the fins. I can’t believe how fast I can move. For the first time, I’m beginning to wonder if I can at least get a scuba experience in the pool. Big steps for me. Update: I’ve now lost 105 pounds!
67 lbs is huge! Keep going you got this 🎉
that is impressive! 🤗🤗🤗
Losing that weight shows discipline. It’s no small feat
Amazing!! You should be super proud!!❤️💪🌹💕
67lbs is amazing! Keep it up.
This is my Fav RUclips channel that covers something I know absolutely nothing about. Thanks you legends for being so educative, entertaining and informative!
I hope you guys are feeling as good as you're looking! Thanks for the hours upon hours of interesting content!
I like what you guys were saying at the end of the video how diving isn’t completely safe. I’m not a diver but I am a skier up here in MT and there’s only so much you can do to prevent bad outcomes from avalanches and such. It all comes down to risk management, preparedness, and common sense. We had a couple seasons in a row where there were a couple deaths around the state from skiing and even one at my local resort. Doesn’t mean it’s not safe however, like diving, you need to be very thoughtful in what your doing and how your going to do it safely.
Actually it does exactly mean that it's not safe ☝️ even moreso if you're stupid
so humbling that with all their prior diving experience, this can still happen.. There is only so much one can do when up against nature
Let alone, 100s of feet underwater and just two air tanks....
Not allowed to dive cause of my medical condition, but I still can dive a little watching Gus and Woody. Thank you, guys ❤
"I'm not allowed to dive"....."I dive a little" why even make the statement that you can't dive when your next sentence literally contradicts it? Do you always make cloen comments?
@@thedoge9590 pretty sure he’s trying to say he can’t dive because of his medical condition, but he feels like he can still experience diving by watching their videos. You gotta have at least an average IQ to figure that out, though
@@therealsnakes if OP had at least average intelligence they'd write the sentence correctly instead people having to make assumptions on it's meaning but hey you keep making assumptions. What a clown lol
@@therealsnakes lmaoaoaoaoaoooo
@@thedoge9590 ye, pretty low IQ moment from you not gonna lie
Gus you're looking fantastic! I have been working on some other things, so I haven't watched you guys in a while. WOW! Now you can go in all those tight squeezes youve been wanting to go! I'm so happy for you!
Omg, i just clicked the link to watch the previous video on Indian Springs and the amount of weight that Gus has lost is admirable! way to go my friend, legendary achievement!
Yeah I haven't watched in a few months and the change was striking!
Lol I thought it was a different guy there with woody!
I appreciate your enthusiasm for cave diving. I have been a master diver since 1983 and have enjoyed dives around the world. I have never had a desire to cave dive and would never consider it. I am a non-cave diver.
I admire you guys for taking all those risks. I could never do it. Being inside a submerged cave like that would completely freak me out. But I really like watching the fascinating video footage of all those caves.
I have so much respect for cave divers. The thought of diving in a cave freaks me out. Y’all have big balls
More like no brains. Cave divers have a death wish.
Hope Woody is feeling okay! Woody sounds a bit sad and tired. Thanks for the video as always guys, learned so much and appreciate you guys
Thank you Gus and Woody. You guys know I don't dive. I had to pause half way through. It's phenomenal the training and experience you guys go through. Thank you so much for putting videos like this out and explaining them in as much detail as you can. I appreciate every single video...funny or serious. Much love to you guys and the whole dive community. ❤❤
I love how real and empathetic woody is
I’ve spent many weekends at Camp Indian Springs back when it was rented out as a functional camp. There was a small wood dock and a canoe shed. Many an alligator would come up to the shore and sunbathe. It was significantly smaller than Wakulla Springs which is a public spring just a few miles down the road.
Edit: you are correct Sirs. The picture at 7:55 is the first picture of Indian Springs in this video.
Cave diving is like entering a labyrinth that is going to kill you if you can't find the exit in time.
Perfect description
Been watching you all for almost a year…nothing you guys post make me want to cave dive. Mostly makes me question why you all do it…however…great content thank you guys!!!
@@SteveNavy1977 Yupp 100% get my heart racing and blood pump’n just watching them
Cheaper and easier to play Russian roulette ☝️for basically the same thrill
Wow Gus you look great, haven't tuned in for a bit and your transformation is impressive!
i’ve been a silent watcher of the channel for a while now and i just gotta say Gus is looking so good! i’m not sure if the drop in weight was intentional but he’s looking great!! love y’all! just wanted to give some props.
If a drop in weight is not intentional, it's medically a bad sign -- so it's best not to randomly congratulate how someone looks if they may not have lost weight on purpose.
@@miashinbrot8388 the channel liked the comment and many others are commenting that he's been working on it. A drop in weight due to medical reasons is very obvious physically, people usually aren't glowing from that like he is currently. pls find someone else to try to lecture about weight comments. --speaking as someone that's experienced medical weight loss and intentional weight loss, people don't need you to speak for them and defend a fictional scenario! :) thanks though! have a great day.
Been a few months since I've watched yall. Looks like Gus lost some weight and gained some sun. Enjoyed the video, thanks guys.
This is so sad. The situation is literally one of my worst fears. As Woody said that there is a point where u have a thought "I'm going to die" this is so so sad. Not only the guy was burried alive but in an underwater cave! Such a tragedy, usually it is easy to rationalise things and say that something could have not happen if there was no mistakes, but in this situaition nothing could have been done better. They did everything right and the man still died :(
Ace video! Was puzzled didn't think that was Gus for a minute, looking incredible bud good stuff!!❤
You guys are really cool! I have great respect and admiration for what you do. I really like your videos and how you explain things, even though I'm not a scuba diver I've already learned a lot of lessons from you on what to do and especially what NOT to do😬 I wish you all the best, thank you from Brazil!
I dont watch often but seeing gus has lost so much weight is so awesome!
I'm not even a diver but, I enjoy living vicariously through Gus & Woody! I luv this channel.
It occurs to me that cave diving is like reverse mountain climbing listening to you both talk of the dangers. And who can plan for EVERY SINGLE possibility? That's unrealistic IMHO. So, you plan as best you can and go from there: Mother Nature is a fickle b***h. Keep up the great videos, guys, educational and fun.
So do I! 😊
It's, but
Not but,
Finish high school bud
@@Marco-717 wth are you talking about?! My statement was quite clear and succinct. Maybe YOU need to go back to school.
I just learned how to annoy scuba and cave divers...just refer to decompression as Deck-O. Great stuff, good video
Gus, did you lose some weight? You’re looking great!
Dude imagine knowing your about to drown and escaping narrowly, then have to sit there for hours knowing your buddy didn’t make it. It’s like getting into a car accident where your friend flew thru the window and died but you are force to sit in the car for hours thinking about it
Woah Gus - looking slim! Great content again boys
Finally being able to put the channels timeline together after many vids, Woody truly is THE man
I would imagine the geology of the area has a role to play in assessing the safety, too. How stable or fragile do structures tend to be in the area, what was going on when things were formed that might influence stability, etc.
And here i thought that ( Rick Stanton & John Volanthen ) did the longest distance cave dive of (5.5 miles = 8.85 kilometers) in the Pozo Azul Cave System in Covenera, Spain.
Another amazing video guys. I'd love to see a video explaining how divers pass time etc. during such huge deco's. Keep it up guys!
thanks for all your knowledge . and thank you for saying cave diving is dangerous because many young people need to hear that
Another great video. Also, looking great Gus! Slim and trim. Someone is training to slip through some tight spots in the caves in the future.
I haven’t seen Dive Talk in a couple months. Gus, you look amazing. Your weight loss is very noticeable. I’m very proud of you.
I'm not certain about the phenomenon that could have caused the cave ceiling collapse, but it could be due to the following two separate phenomena or even a combination of both:
Considering the normal water density at 1 ton/m³ and the density of limestone between 1.8 and 3 tons/m³.
A force resulting from Archimedes' buoyancy principle applied to the rock amounts to 1 ton for a rock weighing between 1.8 and 3 tons, countering the rock's gravitational force.
To cause the collapse, there would need to be an air pocket in the upper part of the cave passage where the water is completely replaced by the exhaled air of the divers. Consequently, the rock's cohesion, which was sufficient to keep the rock attached to the ceiling underwater, might no longer be sufficient in the air.
This aligns with Guss's explanation.
The second phenomenon that I seemed to understand from the commented video is more related to the water density itself. Water into which a lot of small-diameter bubbles are injected can easily contain 15 to 20% of its volume as long as the air source doesn't stop. As a result, the water's density decreases by 15 to 20%, and the Archimedes buoyant force on the rock diminishes accordingly.
This second effect is less significant, but one can imagine that if the rock's cohesion was already very weak, this variation alone could also trigger the collapse.
It's possible that both phenomena occurred. I don't think it's possible to be certain.
I think I've seen a video with the professor who figured out the possible issues and he seemed to think it was the bubbling as in your second example.
Nothing but joy when I see a new Dive Talk video in my feed!
29 hours of decompression,wow😮!
I love watching you guys dive,and thank you for taking us along on your diving adventures. Love hearing about your adventures over the years. I’m way too claustrophobic. I’ll stick to snorkeling in swallow water ;)
At last a new video drops. thanks alot guys. I'm looking forward to this one I appreciate all your hard work ❤
always look 4ward to gus n woodys videos . they explain everything so well. my dad was a navy diver from the 50s till 73 end of vietnam war .he tried to get me into diving but sadly i couldnt do it. i love the water n love being offshore in rivers ect fishing or just in a kyak paddleing around enjoying nature .i envy both of you guys n love the vids of dives in ocean n caves .i couldnt get into diving because i have a short patience n would stuff up deco times plus i dont know why but if i cant see the bottom my feet n me stay on terrafirma lol spose being honest to my dad n me has saved my life n maybe a few others too .i sent you an email bout 4 days ago but yet have no reply ??? cheers from australia great barrier reef area
Sorry, I'm trying to catch up on emails.
WKPP. I know a lot about wooden roller coasters, traditional amusement parks, aircraft structural maintenance, flying, but almost nothing about diving. However, from watching your excellent videos I get the impression that you two are high-level professionals, or at least close. Whatever the requirements might be to participate in this organization, WKPP, I feel as though you both could do it. Maybe I’m wrong. But I did hear you say “I’d pay an insane amount of money to dive Indian Springs.” GO FOR IT! I think you’re capable. I never thought I’d ride every wood roller coaster in the U.S. or be in a position of influence in parks deciding to buy & move a wood coaster, or be engineering the most advanced aircraft ever built (the F-35), but I’ve done these things. You can dive Indian Sorings if you want to bad enough, just like I will fly and own and work on a P-51 Mustang WWII fighter plane someday! We can accomplish great stuff!
Well, thank you. We can definitely dive at Indian Springs, and we would love to. But the WKPP divers are just world-class and of the highest caliber, they have vast experience and insane skills, we are nowhere near that level and to even think we are even close to matching that would be childish from our part. We know our skills, and understand we'll never be part of that elite group of cave divers, and that's okay. Not everyone will or can get to that level of commitment. Organizations like WKPP and KUR do amazing exploration and we highly respect, admire, and look up to those cave explorers.
Havent watched videos for a while but, wow, Gus you look great. Not sure if you have been working out but you look good man.
Thanks again guys for always making us aware. How sad is this story? It's heartbreaking because it was nothing they did wrong. A loss is so hard anyway but especially involving a man of such drive for knowledge to ensure safety for others.
WOW Gus looks like a totally different man...
Way to go my guy 💯
You guys are great! Thanks for the informative and entertaining videos.
Our pleasure!
@@DIVETALK I just watched the diver stabbing himself video. I’m sure this has been mentioned as I’m just a keyboard warrior but wouldn’t putting and eye bolt or whatever in that air pocket(or every single one for that matter) allow people to clip on and and at least asphyxiate “peacefully”?Hope y’all see this I know it’s after the fact
thx for the closed captioning. I really need it. Enjoy so mush
8 kilometres from air !! Wow. Um. Yeah.
16 hrs of decomp.
You are trusting your gear and training to the max doing that.
Congrats to those dudes and deep respect from a Kiwi brother.
I'm hearing those freakin numbers and all I can do is like pick up my jaw from the keyboard. Did they set some of these records in one actual dive? Insanity
I really enjoy your videos! As a non-diver I'm really fascinated by your expertise.
amazing how you guys blew up over the course of time ive been listening to yall.
I am a silent watcher who will never go diving in my life, 😅( I would get super anxious & worried) But became obsessed with learning about it after watching a free diving video and being completely blown away that people can go that deep & hold their breath 😳anyways your channel was recommended and I have been hooked ever since, for some reason even though I have no desire to ever dive 🥴 on another note wow Gus you look amazing!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Yes I have asthma and then I got covid and my lungs got damaged I'm 60 but when I have an asthma attack it's super scary but my medicine keeps it under control. Sometimes I sit around and start getting stressed out and worried about having an attack and that can make one happen. Somehow and I'm not sure how, these videos started coming across my feed and I started watching them. When I hear stories about people who are diving and they get stuck there is nothing like that, to make you realize that you're okay and that you're breathing and that you can breathe still and that if you stay calm, everything's going to be fine. These videos are my therapy. No way would I ever go into any environment in which my oxygen is limited. That includes diving, outer space and climbing tall mountains like Mount Everest.
Gus & Woody, thank you for this video. Great to see you guys!
I think this is the same incident Mr. Ballen covered in one of his stories. Was squaw’s restriction ever cleared out after this or is it too dangerous to even attempt now?
Found you guys maybe 6-9 months ago. Love to find a great channel and looking through everything. Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
And Gus, your change is very clear when im jumping from old to new videos all the time. You look great 👍 but a little sad that there is less gus 😅❤️
As always, informative and entertaining in equal amounts. It's always a huge relief to be "guided" by you two, when seeing other content creator's coverage of cave diving! I learn far more from you two correcting gaffs and outright fallacies in these reactions, then from the original content! You're reactions add a sort of quality control, to the sometimes otherwise shaky information put out by some of these YT channels. 👍🤘
I’m out of breath listening to Gus’s details of that deep dive! Thanks guys for the videos.
I've never been claustrophobic, now in my early 50's I'm getting there for some reason. My biggest fear is being trapped where I cannot move, slowly ending in a horrific death. Add the water and that is just the worst way to go!
It's crazy cuz I thought I was the only one that thought it was claustrophobic.
@@CodeeRichter-lr4eq claustrophobia can apply to tight spaces, but also to larger spaces when there is no apparent exit.
@@CodeeRichter-lr4eq lolol...No, you're right to feel claustrophobic from this.
Looking great, Gus! Thanks for the video guys!
Good morning Gus and Woody! Thanks for your hard work to bring all these wonderful videos!
I've had so much fun watching your new documentary in Mexico and watching the live stream from cozumel, guys. Really good stuff 👍 love what you both do and look forward to more in the future
Love these reaction videos it sucks that usually they are to tragic events
Gus getting gains 💪🏾💯 hell yeah, keep it up brother ✊🏾
I’m new to this channel and I’ve been watching daily now for the past week. You guys have great chemistry and make every video intriguing to watch. I never thought diving was so dangerous. The both of you are great at what you do. I’m a fan for life😀
Been a diver over 30 years dived all over the world love it
Cave diving bonkers not for me
Respect/madness
Holy crap! I haven't watched in a while but Gus you look great! You appear healthier than ever from the weight you have dropped and applaud the willpower it takes to come this far!
My grandpa has mapped many caves and dove a ton of ship wrecks even found a ship wreck in one of the great lakes he always talked about how important it is to remain calm and always use your line
I'm very happy for Gus. He's lost tons of weight and looks great!
Im not a diver, but got to say I enjoy this channel. Keep it up
damnnnn... Gus is looking so healthy, haven't tuned in for a while and mans looks incredible.
12:28 "...and then the line hits a wall of sand. Just think about it."
HOW ABOUT NO?
What a crazy story. Good take from Dive Talk.
1:09 - such a beautiful landscape!
Idk why this channel popped in to my feed. But That diving at chernobyl video got me. Ive never dived in my life and now im binge watching these nightmares. I used a snorkle in my grandmas pool once
Florida is filled with pine trees. There’s also a town called Christmas, which was named after their Christmas trees. People think it’s all beach & palm trees, but it’s actually swamp and pines
Gus looks fkn amazing!!! 💪 I hope your feeling as good as you look.
I absolutely love your Channel. I’ve learned so much about Cave Diving from both of you. Wish I was brave enough to learn to dive. I have severe claustrophobia and could NOT imagine being under water in a cave.
These are places where water is flowing constantly through water soluble stone. It's amazing divers don't witness more collapses.
I feel so much for the divers when I hear these stories. It scares the sh!t outta me just imagining being in their shoes
To point out and honor the extraordinary achievements & credentials of others is what elevates you to the highly respected humble, classy people among us!
Awesome reaction vid guys!!!! Thank you for highlighting some legends in the field
Wow Gus you are looking great! Keep up the good work!!
I am not a cave diver & will never be. I developed my respect for the water as a surfer, in my youth. But that was above the surface. Sure, there were some close calls, but I never feared for my life. Personally, I view what you do as the ''risk equivalent'' of ''free soloing''. One misstep & the consequences shift from sketchy to life threatening. On your channel, you have documented the tragedies that have befallen some divers that you deemed as legends in the pursuit. Which tells me that, regardless of experience & preparedness, there is always unforeseen risks. I hope to continue to enjoy your content for years to come. Please stay safe.
Holy cow, Gus. You’re looking really fit man. Haven’t tuned in for a while but you guys definitely made me a fan. Good to see you guys still going strong
The way you guys talk about diving and your enthusiasm truly makes for a great experience for viewers. Your channel single handedly got me into diving videos, and reasons to NEVER dive haha! Keep up the great work, take care.
Lookin good Gus! Woody...you're not too bad yourself!
Y'all are both looking very healthy!❤🙏Thanks for bringing great education to us! Jane
Dang Gus be looking stout he be telling everybody ill make it now watch me no more turning around for gus he gonna fit lol you looking good brother diet and workout must be working good for ya always love yalls videos im ready for some more cave diving from you and woody thanks for sharing😊
I haven’t watched for a while. Busy with work and life but maaaan Gus is looking good. First video back I had to do a double look. Keep it up man!
Gus!!?? Haven’t watched the pods for a while! Happy to be watching again but gus you look great man. Nice suprise!!
Holy shit Gus! It's been about 6 months since I last checked in here, you've lost soo much weight, well done dude, lookin' good!
you both are looking amazing! Hope your 2023 is going great so far, guys!
6:30 I appreciate Gus always stopping to say “ hold that phone, now’s the time to be discussing the importance of this.”
Had something similar happen to me. I'm a professional firefighter for 30 years all in. I was in a fire in an apartment building following hoseline to the nozzle man. All the sudden I hit a immovable object with hoseline going under it. I couldn't understand what happened. Long story short a fridge had fallen thru floor lodging in floor and separating us. At the time it's just hard to grasp.
😅❤ my favorite cave divers ever, Gus and woody😊😊 I've missed you fellas, love your content guys, especially the knowledge care and details you put in to every video. love always from Tasmania 🇦🇺 southern hemisphere ❤