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In the late 70s, I got into diving and was convinced by some experienced friends to go into a cave. I found the entire experience so terrifying that I never dove again.
Agreed I did a relatively easy cenote in Cancun, only tight spot was when you entered the system. My rented wet suit was not great, every time I twisted I got a jolt of very cold water down my back. Water was crystal clear & it was a nice view. Been there done it never again!
Imagine being alone at the deepest part of the cave with the thought in your mind that your friend just died and having to make it out of the cave safely. I could never.
I've not had that experience, but I have had numerous in which people confess to me that they could not have done what I did if facing the circumstance. I think that they just haven't been in such an intense situation, and therefore don't actually know for certain. I do have the ability to flip the switch to "failure is not an option" mode. I used that a lot in my motocross experience (lifetime & reaching pro level). But I still think that people can kick themselves into gear when they need to, especially if say, their family is in immediate danger. So I wouldn't write you off, Bojang. Imagine if you thought that your friend would want you to live. So you decide to honor him and that means you HAVE TO LIVE. Things tend to change when you have something like that driving you. All the best, Friend.
even worse is are decompression stops... They literally just had to sit there at depth waiting for hours... with nothing but thoughts of the tragic accident and their friend/s being stuck in the cave. At those extreme depths every second they spent trying to help meant minutes added to the decompression stops, it's a vicious circle at such extreme depths. Thankfully these divers used rebreathers which allowed the other diver's to survive. There would be practically no hope had they been on open circuit (normal scuba gear).
I used to really love scuba diving years ago. But never had the desire to dive where I could not directly shoot straight up. Cave diving just terrifies me, I would not even explore them on land.
Great video! but I wanted to point out a couple things to clarify- Diving that deep there is no way they were breathing just oxygen. Gas compresses heavily at depth, at 440 feet that's over 12 atmosphere's of pressure. That means the gas is 12 times more compressed than it would be at the surface. At that depth breathing oxygen is toxic and deadly. Even breathing air (21% oxygen) is deadly past 185ft. Them being on rebreathers and at depths over 400 ft my guess is they were using a heliox (helium, nitrogren, and oxygen) gas. The oxygen levels in that mix would be VERY low and well below the 21% oxygen air we breathe at the surface. I don't want to get TOO wildly complicated but just wanted to point that out divers rarely breathe just oxygen, which is a common misconception. Also, you mention "out breathing" the rebreather, which is something that can happen but is easy to deal with/fix. You left out a critical piece of the story... When Patrick noticed the "signaling" from Jari he was having a seizure. The seizure is what kept Patrick from being able to assist and most likely the reason the regulator (the part scuba divers breathe from) had come out of Jari's mouth. The most accepted theory is not oxygen toxicity caused seizure's but in fact a medical emergency. Jari had a seizure the previous year and there was family history of the issue. When he became tangled it is widely thought the stress caused him to seizure. He most likely felt this coming on (Not something that would happen with oxygen toxicity seizures which happen instantly with no warning) and attempted to "bail out" (meaning go from his rebreather to his backup system) but was unsuccessful in making the transition before the seizure started, sadly. The jaw becomes VERY tightly clinched during seizures which kept Patrick from being able to insert a regulator into his mouth. Lastly, regarding "the bends" yes, it is caused by nitrogen that is absorbed by your tissues at depth and they will "bubble" from the tissue. Some "bubbling" is okay (it is how the gas is released and absorbed by the body to then be off-gassed) issues arrive when the expansion of the bubbles is rapid. Remember, as you go down the gas is being compressed (at their max depth nearly 12 times smaller than surface) so when you go back up the opposite happens. So these teeny tiny bubbles at 400+ feet will be 12 times larger at the surface. They expand exponentially getting larger as you go up. The faster you rise the more quickly these will expand, that rapid expansion causing all sorts of issues inside the body. The most deadly being an embolism.
Yes they do I got bad news for you you should go and find information not the a couple of years ago 12 kids go down into a cave hey I forgot it was on Columbia or El Salvador I don't remember right now you can check is easy to find I'm in the rescue somebody die they spent a lot of time that I know you say it like in sarcastic ways like a joke I understand😅
I love the way he explained the way the British people came to help. Makes me think of “The British are coming! The British are coming!” To me, they sound pretty chill to hangout with.
When my mother felt labor pains was the beginning of my cave diving accident that descended into the depths of Hell. It's been a 50 year Hell with mental illness after I got stuck in the birth canal and dropped on my head. My past 50 years are called the bends the way the painful passages of Heartbreak cave got me stuck. Please help me I'm Bent. I wish my mother had aborted this tragic dive & how I couldn't breathe amongst the way society tortured me.. Losing my loved ones at Alzheimer's Cave I was Tortured.
Excellent job with this video, very professional. Thank you for recognizing that your audience isn't a bunch of mouth breathing doofuses, and that we don't need click bait, over-exaggerated claims, or AI narration. I'll check out more of your stuff for sure.
The wive's should have never allowed those men to go retrieve their husbands' bodies, kind of madness, mental. They are dead, what, those dead bodies are going FEEL "hey, can someone come and get us?!" No, instead they were okay with possibly having more dead people for no reason. Mindless, and that is IF they were actually okay with it--maybe they weren't and pushed against the idea of the rescue but the divers wouldn't have it any other way.
I just keep thinking that some people take too many risks doing stupid things & even if it is or if they see it as a sport. I DON’T CARE. The only reason I would do such a thing is just if I had to save the live of a loved one. New subscriber here by the way👋👋👋👋 🙏🙏 🙏Please know your limits🙏🙏🙏
But, the cave wasn't banned for cave didn't but after the the two men passed away, before it wasn't illegal to dive in, extremely dangerous, yes, (there's no way of denying that) but not illegal
Put yourself in that kind of situation for no reason just because you like adventure get yourself trapped and die without move losing your breath underwater without can I listen it's so so dramatic and so so strong that even when you think about it it's not good for you because you think about those things and you just think so bad that you get nervous it's really really bad claustrophobic
Were all the divers on rebreathers? 425ft is far beyond rec diving, and requires substantial air and decompression time...were all those extra regular tanks just ponies in case of an emergency???
@@thiiird-man ponies is for buublemakers and not suitable for diving at all. If you dive rebreathers you hav to have enogh tank with right mixgasses to swim back an end the dive correctly 1/3 is the rule for turnback. And you need gas to your teamdiver
This is what they do for fun and adventure…..it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out…this fun and adventure is extremely dangerous….Mother Nature takes few prisoners in a situation like this….but there will always be people that ‘just don’t get it”
@@dondamon4669 true….but it’s a nasty way to die…people die in cr accidents …often caused by other drivers….this is a personal choice ….a natural high to cave dive….but if it goes wrong….for whatever reason….pretty nasty way to die.
the way you told this story was hard to watch. using the same clips multiple times. and nobody likes watching someone talk with their hands infront of a green screen. its not appealing. dont need to record yourself....
I won’t ever understand people risking their life’s for something as boring as the bottom of a cave 🫠 there is absolutely nothing down there… risking your life to see some stone walls is just stupid
Its a risky mental znd adventure sport but is it worth dying for? All risky sport practitioner should take a lesson on value anlysis , means how important a risk compared to tye importance of their life...! Or may be just know why God created them...too many things to leatn for these nice guys begore dying such.
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I love your videos keep it up ❤❤❤❤
How to survive I'm your biggest fan
I’m glad my hobbies include watching this from the comfort of my home
Same😂
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yeah
same here too
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In the late 70s, I got into diving and was convinced by some experienced friends to go into a cave. I found the entire experience so terrifying that I never dove again.
Smart man
Agreed I did a relatively easy cenote in Cancun, only tight spot was when you entered the system. My rented wet suit was not great, every time I twisted I got a jolt of very cold water down my back. Water was crystal clear & it was a nice view. Been there done it never again!
The way you opened the video in the first 15 seconds was outstanding-it pulled me right in!
The cave did the same thing to these guys
Imagine being alone at the deepest part of the cave with the thought in your mind that your friend just died and having to make it out of the cave safely.
I could never.
I've not had that experience, but I have had numerous in which people confess to me that they could not have done what I did if facing the circumstance. I think that they just haven't been in such an intense situation, and therefore don't actually know for certain. I do have the ability to flip the switch to "failure is not an option" mode. I used that a lot in my motocross experience (lifetime & reaching pro level). But I still think that people can kick themselves into gear when they need to, especially if say, their family is in immediate danger.
So I wouldn't write you off, Bojang. Imagine if you thought that your friend would want you to live. So you decide to honor him and that means you HAVE TO LIVE. Things tend to change when you have something like that driving you. All the best, Friend.
even worse is are decompression stops... They literally just had to sit there at depth waiting for hours... with nothing but thoughts of the tragic accident and their friend/s being stuck in the cave. At those extreme depths every second they spent trying to help meant minutes added to the decompression stops, it's a vicious circle at such extreme depths. Thankfully these divers used rebreathers which allowed the other diver's to survive. There would be practically no hope had they been on open circuit (normal scuba gear).
It's scary for sure!
Kai has been involved in at least 4 cave diving deaths. How is he not under investigation ?
Could be a serial killer
Do you have more info on this? I can't find anything
I used to really love scuba diving years ago. But never had the desire to dive where I could not directly shoot straight up. Cave diving just terrifies me, I would not even explore them on land.
This makes my mind freaking out 😅😅 trying to calm it how are you able to even explain it with a cool expression 😎 love your channel
Great video! but I wanted to point out a couple things to clarify- Diving that deep there is no way they were breathing just oxygen. Gas compresses heavily at depth, at 440 feet that's over 12 atmosphere's of pressure. That means the gas is 12 times more compressed than it would be at the surface. At that depth breathing oxygen is toxic and deadly. Even breathing air (21% oxygen) is deadly past 185ft. Them being on rebreathers and at depths over 400 ft my guess is they were using a heliox (helium, nitrogren, and oxygen) gas. The oxygen levels in that mix would be VERY low and well below the 21% oxygen air we breathe at the surface. I don't want to get TOO wildly complicated but just wanted to point that out divers rarely breathe just oxygen, which is a common misconception. Also, you mention "out breathing" the rebreather, which is something that can happen but is easy to deal with/fix. You left out a critical piece of the story... When Patrick noticed the "signaling" from Jari he was having a seizure. The seizure is what kept Patrick from being able to assist and most likely the reason the regulator (the part scuba divers breathe from) had come out of Jari's mouth. The most accepted theory is not oxygen toxicity caused seizure's but in fact a medical emergency. Jari had a seizure the previous year and there was family history of the issue. When he became tangled it is widely thought the stress caused him to seizure. He most likely felt this coming on (Not something that would happen with oxygen toxicity seizures which happen instantly with no warning) and attempted to "bail out" (meaning go from his rebreather to his backup system) but was unsuccessful in making the transition before the seizure started, sadly. The jaw becomes VERY tightly clinched during seizures which kept Patrick from being able to insert a regulator into his mouth. Lastly, regarding "the bends" yes, it is caused by nitrogen that is absorbed by your tissues at depth and they will "bubble" from the tissue. Some "bubbling" is okay (it is how the gas is released and absorbed by the body to then be off-gassed) issues arrive when the expansion of the bubbles is rapid. Remember, as you go down the gas is being compressed (at their max depth nearly 12 times smaller than surface) so when you go back up the opposite happens. So these teeny tiny bubbles at 400+ feet will be 12 times larger at the surface. They expand exponentially getting larger as you go up. The faster you rise the more quickly these will expand, that rapid expansion causing all sorts of issues inside the body. The most deadly being an embolism.
@@trevorduncan9580 they used trimix diluent made for the deepest section. Then the RB also have O2 who is added for the shallow dephts
@@64Cavediver makes sense. Thanks!
Lots of the footage in here is mine and I got well credits for my videos. I have more in my channel
@@trevorduncan9580 I like short version
Don't even understand cave div8ng but you ex0lained that well to a person who is ignorant to these subjects.
Good job👌🏾
You never see no black or Hispanic people doing these extreme adventures
And you never will lmao, we know our place as "Land Creatures"
Yes they do I got bad news for you you should go and find information not the a couple of years ago 12 kids go down into a cave hey I forgot it was on Columbia or El Salvador I don't remember right now you can check is easy to find I'm in the rescue somebody die they spent a lot of time that I know you say it like in sarcastic ways like a joke I understand😅
Ok u found the Hispanic example. Now find the black example. And if u do bet it wont be black American @vileevil47gonzalez92
@@vileevil47gonzalez92You sound stupid. They were Filipino and they weren't diving. They walked in and a rain storm followed and closed the entrance.
maybe because they aren't stupid enough to do this crap.
The best part of cave diving is that you don't have to👍
I love the way he explained the way the British people came to help. Makes me think of “The British are coming! The British are coming!” To me, they sound pretty chill to hangout with.
Helllllllllll NO!!!!!! That’s crazy.
Certainly is!
No but a place i find my peace and mindfulnes.
No divers ever go to 1640 feet and turn around; they all stay at that depth (1:23)
Rest in peace my dear brother 😭😔🤕
nice work with the short now u got me stuck here
I don't blame them. Losing a friend hurts
When my mother felt labor pains was the beginning of my cave diving accident that descended into the depths of Hell. It's been a 50 year Hell with mental illness after I got stuck in the birth canal and dropped on my head. My past 50 years are called the bends the way the painful passages of Heartbreak cave got me stuck. Please help me I'm Bent. I wish my mother had aborted this tragic dive & how I couldn't breathe amongst the way society tortured me.. Losing my loved ones at Alzheimer's Cave I was Tortured.
Excellent job with this video, very professional. Thank you for recognizing that your audience isn't a bunch of mouth breathing doofuses, and that we don't need click bait, over-exaggerated claims, or AI narration. I'll check out more of your stuff for sure.
The wive's should have never allowed those men to go retrieve their husbands' bodies, kind of madness, mental.
They are dead, what, those dead bodies are going FEEL "hey, can someone come and get us?!"
No, instead they were okay with possibly having more dead people for no reason. Mindless, and that is IF they were actually okay with it--maybe they weren't and pushed against the idea of the rescue but the divers wouldn't have it any other way.
To have a funeral……
I just keep thinking that some people take too many risks doing stupid things & even if it is or if they see it as a sport. I DON’T CARE.
The only reason I would do such a thing is just if I had to save the live of a loved one. New subscriber here by the way👋👋👋👋
🙏🙏 🙏Please know your limits🙏🙏🙏
They broke all the laws and didn’t care about regulations
Anf U R a wise human!!! So hard to find these days LOL Same here...wth R people thinking????
Exactly
Great channel 🎉
What made you decide to start this channel?
It's super cool.
They died because they broke the law, had contempt for danger and ignored their own stupidity.
But, the cave wasn't banned for cave didn't but after the the two men passed away, before it wasn't illegal to dive in, extremely dangerous, yes, (there's no way of denying that) but not illegal
i dont understand why they go to cold places when theres warm ones that are exactly the same
When someone goes in there willingly it’s not a tragedy.
For anyone who hasn't seen sanctum. Check it out. Good movie.
My brother, Ronnie, did that off Lake Superior coasts. He also skydived.
What killed him was his kidneys.
there was an american who died not long after this episode. they should close this stupidity
Wait one of the divers is Naruto?
You have to have the nerves to go down there… if there is a chance of you panicking just because something goes wrong you shouldn’t do that
When they dived into that cave, they were not Finnish... they were finished 😅😅
@@cherrytwinsgaming215 that was not funny at all
omg
Not really funny dude
very in poor taste
😂😂😂
Who took the photos? I see lots of these in videos but obviously they're staged. No one would just stand by and photograph dying people.
Gentleman knows how to cavedive, but doesnt. Just like gentleman who knows how to play accordian, but doesnt.
Put yourself in that kind of situation for no reason just because you like adventure get yourself trapped and die without move losing your breath underwater without can I listen it's so so dramatic and so so strong that even when you think about it it's not good for you because you think about those things and you just think so bad that you get nervous it's really really bad claustrophobic
I usually watch your video when im 5 years old
Hello im back :)
have to be careful deep down in tight areas. good gear or not
when I saw Illegal Cave Divers I can't feel No Sympathy as they knew everything and still did for what? there life? sad really.
But, when the two guys passed away it wasn't illegal to dive in the cave, after there deaths it was deemed illegal
No other divers dared to go there. UK divers said it was too dangerous.
Finnish guys said no one is left behind and went to retrieve their friends.
thats crazy.
Were all the divers on rebreathers? 425ft is far beyond rec diving, and requires substantial air and decompression time...were all those extra regular tanks just ponies in case of an emergency???
Nvm, commented too early...yes, rebreathers. Yes, regular tanks. Poor system, poor reaction...what a bummer 😓
@@thiiird-man ponies is for buublemakers and not suitable for diving at all. If you dive rebreathers you hav to have enogh tank with right mixgasses to swim back an end the dive correctly 1/3 is the rule for turnback. And you need gas to your teamdiver
Why?
16:26 Wait WHAT?!
We are not fish lol
Don't feel sorry at all. They knew the risk. They had the "it won't happen to me attitude."
He called them Russian at the end. Are they Russian or Finnish?
Only a fool risks his life needlessly.
Sad 😞
@@Rmm1722 yes 😢
Dear God. Nightmare. Upset my stomach.
Great past time.😢
I think they made a film of this story.
I think i watched this on Netflix it was crazy
This is what they do for fun and adventure…..it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out…this fun and adventure is extremely dangerous….Mother Nature takes few prisoners in a situation like this….but there will always be people that ‘just don’t get it”
It's rare to die why there are videos about it, driving much more dangerous
@@dondamon4669 true….but it’s a nasty way to die…people die in cr accidents …often caused by other drivers….this is a personal choice ….a natural high to cave dive….but if it goes wrong….for whatever reason….pretty nasty way to die.
Crazy that the names are Patrick and Sandy.. I can't help but think of SpongeBob
And ppl.do this for fun?
the way you told this story was hard to watch. using the same clips multiple times. and nobody likes watching someone talk with their hands infront of a green screen. its not appealing. dont need to record yourself....
Why cant people waych these for a thrill or snxiety fix etc not do it? Its like sleeping overnight with hungry tigers in a zoo....
At that moment they knew they f##ked up
How do you get carbon monoxide poisoning while diving?
The compressor is mechanical and can release exhaust.
I think he meant to say carbon dioxide.
Nope from my warm bed
I am new to the channel
I won’t ever understand people risking their life’s for something as boring as the bottom of a cave 🫠 there is absolutely nothing down there… risking your life to see some stone walls is just stupid
Cave divers and climbers are idiots. What do you achieve going that deep? Only the thrill that you went there.
What leads you to do something like this lol
this fishergame...why tf not just go out and fish forreal?
Point?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
When German seen them HALT damit!
I'm used to the deep voice on this channel what happened?
those rebreathers suck huh
Garbage too many ads and stupid sales pitch
Its a risky mental znd adventure sport but is it worth dying for? All risky sport practitioner should take a lesson on value anlysis , means how important a risk compared to tye importance of their life...! Or may be just know why God created them...too many things to leatn for these nice guys begore dying such.
Hi
Why can't Americans pronounce the word NINETY properly, there is no D in ninety.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
or twenty "twendy"
You should do something on Nutty Putty Cave; THAT freaks me out.
😮😮
So sad.😢
Went in Finnish came out finished
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hiiiiiiii
I would never in my life lol
🎉🌶️🐟🫠
😂😂😂😂
Please stop. I can't take it anymore.
😅😅😅😅
What fools😂
First view
Nah
Good video but you don't have to be in it,,, your voice is enough
He’s hot who cares
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