Cine-Kodak Model K 16mm Camera - Overview & Loading
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Owen McCafferty gives an overview of the 16mm Cine-Kodak Model K.
This affordable vintage camera is available on eBay and fresh, new Double Perf 16mm film is available at filmphotograph...
I really appreciate this video! Much easier to use than the instruction booklet. I watch it every time I load mine with genuine FPP 40 speed double-perforated b&w film.
What a great video. I just "inherited" this exact camera and tons of shot film from the 1930s and now plan of shooting on this very camera in honor of the man that used it almost 100 years ago. I will be buyong film at your store thanks again.
Thanks for the great review, I just got my hands on a very clean one off of eBay for $40 with a nice clean lens all working and I just loaded it up with some B&W film from the FPP. I will convert it to single after my first test. I've did it to an older Bolex and a few other cameras so I'm not worried. 😁
Thanks for supplying us with double perf film at a very reasonable price!
Thank you so much, i have had my old model k on the shelf, thinking that it didn't work, but after watching you'r video - i finally got it to work.
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I just shot a film with this camera. Blown away how good the lens is on this. Image was incredible considering how old it is.
Thank you very much FPP for creating this live tutorial! I had to load this camera years ago, before this video was ever available. It stressed me out so much having to follow the original manual. 1930s levers and buttons are simply not intuitive to us today. To be able to see live action loading is invaluable.
Thanks for this tutorial... I collect old cameras and someone recently gave me one of these. Can't wait to try it out!
Have had this model K for a while now, but was kinda hesitant to try it out, but thanks to you and the FFP, I can proceed…… thank you!
Loading that film for someone like myself looks like a nightmare. I'd get the sweats for sure. But I just purchased the 8mm version of this camera and I'd love to shoot on the 16mm. Great tutorial.
About to buy my first roll of B&W from you to test mine! Very excited!
This is an incredibly useful tutorial! I own one of these ancient beauties. It arrived a few months ago and - big surprise - it had a partially exposed reel in it. I bought a vintage Kodak 8mm camera, as well; same story. I'll finish the reels off, ship them to you for processing - and cross my fingers!
I actually own one like the one in the video.. How was your development process, what kind of developer and appropriate mitigation did you use and for how long. Waiting for a reply please, thank you
@@abohosamabohosam4178 This is what happened: I was ready to expose the film, then look into how to have the film processed. I was also preparing to expose glass plate negatives for the first time. What happened? I was struck by a car and now, in October 2021, am finally healed and walking around. Very dramatic events!
So, I have no news to share! 😟 I plan to return to filming and photography soon - before the snow arrives in northern Vermont. 🐧
Thank you for creating this tutorial. I have a model K I recently picked up in an antique store. I've never shot movie film, much less double perf 16mm, and I was feeling pretty intimated. This video has given me confidence to proceed. Thanks again!
This is extremely helpful! I just recently got this same kind of camera, and I bought it with film it it lol. Very stressful figuring that out, but I finished the roll and now I need to figure out how to unload it. Thank you!
Excellent! Thanks, Owen!
Ahhhhh -- I can see why they invented the film magazines!!!!! :-)
Have a strange affinity for these long bygone media's after writing screen plays as a youth. Later life found me purchasing this model, which sadly lacked the lens element making it entirely useless for shooting, but when there still is life, either in the camera, or myself, there is yet hope. The provided instruction was helpful, when in time I find the lens for it, I may at long last try my hand at Amateur Film Making. This camera may not be the Apex of motion picture technology, but being a Kodak, I am certain it will satisfy my needs. My continued regard for your efforts to in keeping film a viable media for expression. Very best wishes!
Kodak made a lens adapter for this camera and many lenses that will on into it.
I just received my first roll of film from this camera and it appears that I was slightly off when loading the film. The film pulls or jumps a little throughout the roll. I'll try one more roll and pay extra attention to loading. Hopefully it works properly so I don't waste more money on it.
Great tutorial!
Appreciate u, thx
You couldn't have posted this at a better time, just received my about a week ago
What is the most suitable developer for a 16mm double perf film, does it work with the home developer of caffeinol c, and does it work with the positive reflection process and materials process, to make a positive film and develop it, I wait for your answer and thank you.
I have 16mm movies, one dated sometime in 1928. My grandfather was a photographer and he apparently borrowed the hardware. That particular film is on a Hudson River boat going to Bear Mountain Park. I have run these movies numerous times in a 16mm projector, they are still in perfect condition, no "vinegaring" of the film.
How long does the spring motor run before you need to crank it again?
I'm not sure about this kodak in specific. But I know that my bolex runs for about 30 seconds (18 fps) before needing to be wound up again.
@@jonathansmith2168 My Bell & Howell Magazine 16 runs for only 10 seconds! Not that I've ever used it, what with that and the expense or difficulty in shooting Magazine 16.
Thank You for your tutorial, very informative and to the point! I want to try this camera out tomorrow and just received a camera in Dublin, Ireland from Georgia USA, purchased from ebay. It is a 1941 model k with lovely case and 2 lenses. The Filmo 70-DA stalled on me about a month ago. Do you recommend the online android phone meters? The meter that Mike Rasso mentioned in a video is interesting. Do I set my shutter to 1/30th sec with the model k? A big fan of your podcasts, always good banter and topics. Cheers!
Have you at the FPP ever thought of offering development tanks for home processing? Buckets in the dark are not optimal.
If you are lucky you can find a Russian made home developing tank with a plastic spirals . ( I used that in Hungary in the 1970 - imagine the loading ! - Developing in day light )
I suspect the double perforation could allow for faster smooth projection. Ampro that has a variable control?
With more perfs better stability. Does anyone here shoot high speed / slow motion ?
I just bought one of these cameras and I was wondering if the black and white reversal film would work in this camera so I could play it back through a projector?
Yes, BW or Color Reversal Film can be projected (and or scanned). Here's our blog - Negative Film vs Reversal (Positive) Film? What’s the Difference? - filmphotographyproject.com/negative-film-vs-reversal-positive-film-whats-the-difference/
@@FilmPhotographyProject thanks, what reversal black and white film would you recommend for the Kodak model K?
Very nice . Any ideas where one can have the lenses cleaned and de-fungused inside (Europe) ? Thank you .
me too in USA
How long can some one shoot with one spool of 50 and 100 size you didn't mentioned in this vedio.
This might be helpful - www.paulivester.com/films/runtimes.htm
Personally Id thought it more valuable to offer a service to offer a duel-to-single perf conversion service rather than expensive limited-in-choice double perf films.. but what do i know
Re-perfing from single to double 16mm is not an option.
ASA/ISO - same thing. 😁
You’re showing your age. 😉
I have a Kodak Cine BB Junior 16mm Anastigmat 25mm film camera which film is suitable for this type and is there a 16mm 50ft black and white film reel? Thanks
Probably needs Double Perf 16mm film. 16mm film only avail in 100 ft rolls for cameras.
I just recently came into possession of a model k and have a question about the footage counter. As of now with no film it only go's to the 60 foot mark. If I were to run film through it, would it actually continue to zero or stay at 50 feet as it continues to to expose the rest of the film?
Sounds like your footage counter may be stuck or broken.
hey i have this camera and am planning on getting some film for it from you store. The only thing is, i'm not sure if the 100 iso or 400 iso is better. I know you said here to use a ND filter but can i not just bring down the aperture to reduce the exposure? i have a light meter app on my phone so i can set up settings for 400 iso and 1/30th shutter speed and from the app it seems like 400 iso works great for indoor lighting which is what i prefer. what do you think, anything wrong with my reasoning here?
Turn on all the light indoors and it'll be thumbs up! (Supplemental light panel will also help).
"This camera is famous!" Anyone know why?
Just picked up one of these at an estate sale. The shutter release sticks, but it will run (intermittently) with a little coaxing inside the body. Was wondering how best to clean those gears. Is there any oil I can use or is that a bad idea?
Depends on the gear you are referring to. Some may require oil (I recommend sewing machine oil) while others need grease (I recommend SuperLube)
@@rulebritannia1700 Thanks. I'm a novice, so I'm not too sure what's what. After I wind the camera, it will only run after manually massaging the wheel attached to the claw. Almost like I have to jump start it.
So I am a little new to film photography. I am wondering if because the film is dual perforated do you need to buy a specific kind of projector?
Reversal (positive film) is slit and assembled at the lab to give you a 50 foot roll of film for projection. You'll need a 8mm projector. Here's a blog on projectors - filmphotographyproject.com/8mm-film-projector-buy/
@@FilmPhotographyProject thank you
older projectors were often double perf; same deal, use double perf on double perf
5:00 Are there ND filters for this camera to remedy the issue with the settings especially outdoors?
How do I figure out the fps on my double 8mm camera? Also do y'all do repairs on cameras or know a place where I can get my movie film cameras repaired?
No known repair - easiest to purchase a 2nd vintage camera. At 16 frames per second, your shutter speed is 1/30th sec. - Mike
HI I own one of these and the counter arm seems to be springy, IE I have to move it out of the way to load the film and it rests on the film, This seems different to yours. any suggestions wether this is broken if so is it fixable?
The counter doesn't line up properly either
Unless you can repair yourself, there's no service available for cameras so old. They're very inexpensive on eBay. Perhaps pick up a second camera?
I got a CINE KODAK 16 original case. !! If someone needs it let me know thanks
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Can you shoot color with this?
Yes, you can shoot with color or BW 16mm Double Perforated film. (Recommended 40 iso or lower)
Fantastic! Thanks, Owen!