Family sues Habitat for Humanity for allegedly breaching oral contract

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  • Опубликовано: 23 май 2021
  • A low-income family is suing Habitat for Humanity of Greater Vancouver for allegedly breaching an oral contract promising them a path to home ownership. The couple says they signed papers and started paying an interest-free mortgage issued by the non-profit group, but now fear they may never actually own the property they live in.
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Комментарии • 155

  • @zabag
    @zabag 3 года назад +83

    If you're one of those people who are saying that they are ungrateful because they got a home for free: go back to the beginning and replay it again until you hear the part in which the story says "the mortgage they got". A mortgage is not free. If you still think it is, call your bank and ask how you can get a free mortgage as you hear the rep laugh at you at the other end of the phone.

    • @davemarchildon2583
      @davemarchildon2583 3 года назад +10

      Yes. It's like nobody actually reads. listens or even tries to fully understand.

    • @aswadmalik1740
      @aswadmalik1740 2 года назад +2

      Things that make you go hmmm….

    • @vkrgfan
      @vkrgfan 2 года назад +1

      I know people are ignorant.

    • @lauralaplace9945
      @lauralaplace9945 3 месяца назад

      I understand , I also know that you don’t need a mortgage to get into Heaven . Thank God 🙏

  • @sct4040
    @sct4040 3 года назад +40

    It's a big difference between 250,000 and 600,000. No way is 600,000 an affordable home.

  • @davidrenaud736
    @davidrenaud736 3 года назад +31

    Ya with the CEO making over 300K per year. This is why my policy of no donations for charities who's CEO makes over 130K is validated.

  • @wren5291
    @wren5291 3 года назад +44

    ALWAYS GET COPIES!!! Even film yourself signing them if you have to, and with witnesses if necessary. Every company, establishment, institution, organisation and charity must be held accountable.

  • @crayon1202
    @crayon1202 3 года назад +49

    Theres no reason that pile of plywood is worth 600k,

  • @headishome8452
    @headishome8452 3 года назад +13

    This isn't the first time H4H has been in a dispute: not giving copies to people, using pics without permission etc. I went with my sister.... she knows I will ask questions that she wouldn't or gets flustered. I asked them a specific question, representative told a falsehood and I pointed out that it was in the paperwork. They wanted to use my sister and her 3 children in advertising and our older sister, husband and 2 sons were very well known for building homes, condominiums, townhouses and apartment complex's. Needless to say, my sister went into an agreement with our older sister and her oldest son. Problem solved. Never sign a contract without knowing what it means/that you won't get a copy of. Period.

  • @AR-uz6kq
    @AR-uz6kq 3 года назад +33

    Rule number 1 as it relates to business intelligence... always get COPIES!!!!

    • @LadyUsakoB
      @LadyUsakoB 3 года назад +2

      yes! just why they didn't get them i dunno O.O

    • @nocause5395
      @nocause5395 3 года назад +4

      @@LadyUsakoB they might have been just over excited to get a home. I got screwed in a car deal because I was desperate for a car and it was the only placed I can go so they added things I didn't need.

    • @120bank8
      @120bank8 Месяц назад

      @@nocause5395 same here.... 3-4k car for 12k, lied about damages on the car report.

  • @Quagthistle
    @Quagthistle 3 года назад +24

    One would presume it's the fair market value AT THE TIME THEY ASSUMED OCCUPANCY, not the fair market value several years later when home prices have exploded upwards. Duh.

  • @badoor23
    @badoor23 3 года назад +11

    even our local Canadian non profit groups are sketchy and shady af , smh

  • @jaygray7102
    @jaygray7102 3 года назад +36

    They had an "oral" contract? and they "signed" papers??.....hmmmmm

  • @nocause5395
    @nocause5395 3 года назад +37

    This is why you always keep copies of documents. Also if the deal was made 6 years ago the value of the home should be what it was 6 years ago.

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 3 года назад +1

      Oh ya

    • @eattherich9215
      @eattherich9215 2 года назад

      You can't keep a copy of something you never received.

    • @nocause5395
      @nocause5395 2 года назад

      @@eattherich9215 Which is why you should have gotten something written

    • @eattherich9215
      @eattherich9215 2 года назад

      @@nocause5395: but they didn't, so your point is moot.

    • @nocause5395
      @nocause5395 2 года назад

      @@eattherich9215 my point isn't specifically for them. Also, documents can include emails, texts etc.

  • @shamblesgalore7468
    @shamblesgalore7468 3 года назад +67

    Ok... not to be anything but...there are ppl who have lived in Canada for generations who have never been able to afford a home. And don't start you know exactly the point I'm making

    • @MrJabez89
      @MrJabez89 3 года назад +9

      Not minority enough

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +12

      My mother WORKED for every penny she earned. Never ever did we ask for free handouts.

    • @marcib6767
      @marcib6767 3 года назад +9

      It looks fishy to me that this family asked for the paperwork they signed and more than 6 years later haven’t received it. That’s not normal protocol in Canada. They may be right that they were misled intentionally. If this wasn’t true, before this aired I’m sure habitat for humanity could have made a stronger rebuttal. I would say the same thing if they were both Canadian born and non minorities. Something doesn’t sound right, and it’ll be interesting to see whether they win this or no.

    • @marcib6767
      @marcib6767 3 года назад +4

      @@DW_Read They should have been given copies immediately for whatever they signed. I agree with you that nothing is free, but if this family had been given their signed paperwork, a lot would be clearer. If they weren’t given their paperwork, that looks really suspicious to me. It also is in poor taste for HFH to be using their pictures to sell this story as a success when the reality is completely different. So it seems fishy on multiple counts really. And again, I would say the same if this family were Canadian born and non minorities. With the weak response from HFH, I’m a bit concerned that there may be truth to what this couple is alleging. But we will see whether this couple wins or no - perhaps more facts will come to light over time that aren’t presently in this short clip.

  • @assessor1276
    @assessor1276 3 года назад +16

    Hmmmm….welcome to Canada. Try paying market prices like the people who pay most of the taxes here.

  • @nigerianhurr90
    @nigerianhurr90 Год назад +2

    How could anyone watch this video and still come to the conclusion that they were given a house for free. Are y’all slow?

  • @rainbowfrequency1
    @rainbowfrequency1 3 года назад +39

    People...it was NOT a FREE HOUSE...it was a 250,000 dollar house for which they still needed to qualify for a mortgage. And just because your colonial ancestors landed here doesn't mean you should begrudge the opportunities given to others in order to make a life here....alot of Canadian homeowners get help from parents and family in order to cosign etc ... I'm not saying there should not be more opportunities for all to own homes and not pay exorbitant rent but don't hate on this family.

    • @arock1999
      @arock1999 3 года назад +5

      I got zero help from my parents or anyone else. i worked my *** off all these years. If they win this another family in need will pay for it. They are just wasting tax dollars by involving the courts. Who sues a charity? Someone that's selfish

    • @rainbowfrequency1
      @rainbowfrequency1 3 года назад +8

      @@arock1999 well if you bought a house thinking it was 250,000 and you could pay your mortgage and then the sellers turned around and said it was 3x the price and you were on the hook...you might be upset too! Any reasonable person would be upset.

    • @nigerianhurr90
      @nigerianhurr90 Год назад +3

      @@arock1999 it’s like the point went right over your head. Just because it’s a “charity” doesn’t mean they always do the right thing. Did you even watch the video? They have a mortgage nothing was free the fair market value is the only they are supposed to be paying. Which was 250k. If your mortgage went up that way you’d want to sue too

  • @lauralaplace9945
    @lauralaplace9945 3 месяца назад

    No Co signing , all family members are deceased , foreclosure’s and selling a Condo just to pay for the Nursing Homes.

  • @chrisyung4055
    @chrisyung4055 3 года назад +16

    Nothing is free.

    • @nocause5395
      @nocause5395 3 года назад +3

      They have been paying for the last 6 years.
      Edit: it's not free they have been paying $1k plus a month for the last 6 years

    • @businessmanager4746
      @businessmanager4746 2 года назад +2

      @@nocause5395 These folks dont read they assume its free it is a loan still and mortgage LOW MONTHLY PAYMENT ONLY

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin 3 года назад +2

    They also charge a TON to have a small pre-fab rental placed in your backyard. They charge as much as it would cost to build a *NEW FULL-SIZE* home.

  • @timwilson8235
    @timwilson8235 3 года назад +43

    They should be thankful. I am a 65 year old handicapped man with one leg and in a whhelchair. I was not offered a home

    • @wildandliving1925
      @wildandliving1925 3 года назад +6

      And you never will be

    • @danielcalder5251
      @danielcalder5251 3 года назад +5

      *plays tiny violin for the 65 year old handicapped man who was not offered a home*

    • @originalblanco827
      @originalblanco827 3 года назад +10

      They weren’t offered if you heard, they are paying 🌚take your sob story somewhere else

    • @nigerianhurr90
      @nigerianhurr90 Год назад +5

      Are you hard of hearing too? They weren’t offered a home they pay mortgage just like everyone

  • @Karma-zx8qe
    @Karma-zx8qe 7 месяцев назад +2

    I fully blame habitat for humanity for this. They have done how many of these types of deals with housing. They should have anticipated something like this happening. And also why did it take so long, and why did they not give them the paperwork? That's going to be a really good question to put before a judge. This is their negligence and their opportunistic predatory attempted trying to weasel more money out of the house cuz they knew it the value of attempts at weaseling more money out of the house cuz value went up

  • @HuplesCat
    @HuplesCat 3 года назад +28

    Greed is unpleasant to see. So poor charity gives them a huge home discount but rich enough to hire a lawyer

    • @HuplesCat
      @HuplesCat 3 года назад +3

      @GMan5090 Yes I know but still suing a charity for trying to sell them a home at a subsidized cost strikes me as a little ungracious

    • @ErickaH.
      @ErickaH. Год назад +3

      Shame on you for speaking on these people when you do not know the truth. Ridiculous.

    • @HuplesCat
      @HuplesCat Год назад

      @@ErickaH. care to enlighten me Ericka?

  • @Tabaitha_Elle
    @Tabaitha_Elle 2 года назад

    Why did they wait a whole year to ask for the paperwork. Get your copies upfront always.

  • @coolbuddydude1
    @coolbuddydude1 2 года назад +3

    Getting screwed is part of being Canadian.

  • @whathandleUtalkabt
    @whathandleUtalkabt 3 года назад +12

    Oral contract 🙄 and taking oral talk to a court 🙄

    • @rickybobby6760
      @rickybobby6760 3 года назад +1

      A contract does not have to be written to be valid if it can be substantiated.

    • @queennoneya601
      @queennoneya601 2 года назад

      Realestate law hates anything that is not written down.

  • @Digitalhunny
    @Digitalhunny 3 года назад +1

    6 years?!

  • @benbecic7401
    @benbecic7401 3 года назад +15

    Why should a non profit pick up a 350 thousand dollar tab

  • @PuertoRicoSeGoza
    @PuertoRicoSeGoza 2 года назад

    I rented a room wrote out a signed contract got their Id my Id and took a picture of it imagine a mortgage

  • @wildandliving1925
    @wildandliving1925 3 года назад +6

    Must be nice to get a cheap home...

  • @jason4275
    @jason4275 3 года назад +1

    Got Husstle.

  • @joegladue8863
    @joegladue8863 3 года назад +13

    Funny how these new residents come here claiming to be broke but there driving Mercedes BMW and new vehicles with 10 family members living in a 3 bedroom condo thats low income

  • @rhontopo
    @rhontopo 3 года назад +8

    you will own nothing and be happy

  • @stevesnow5461
    @stevesnow5461 3 года назад +21

    Whatever...

  • @fraserdavis336
    @fraserdavis336 3 года назад +16

    i'm 60 years old born & raised Canadian..because of a disabilty,I was turned down many times from having my own home...I live in a basement apt rent is huge ,,,pay for that house or Iose it...

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +5

      Well that sounds like a you problem.

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +3

      @@2Sarah

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +3

      @@Reina.Nijinsky do u want a medal?

  • @christopherthurman6765
    @christopherthurman6765 3 года назад +32

    Pirates: we demand, free handouts!

    • @FlyMeToTheMoon1950
      @FlyMeToTheMoon1950 3 года назад +16

      Says Christopher Columbus?

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +11

      Chalk Children: We steal everything and call it our own.

  • @lauralaplace9945
    @lauralaplace9945 3 месяца назад

    I threw the towel
    In for this in the States decades ago . The American Dream to own a home . I’m waiting for my real home promised to me in Heaven by Jesus Christ . I’m so so sorry for people that have been deceived. 🙏

  • @catherinewilson1079
    @catherinewilson1079 3 года назад +1

    No papers; no proof. We all have to live with these rules.

  • @Tianshanwarrior
    @Tianshanwarrior 3 года назад +7

    Is this a program open for anyone in need or just new comers?

    • @The_Keh27
      @The_Keh27 3 года назад +4

      supposedly everyone, but they're very choosy who they select.

    • @young-soonkim6730
      @young-soonkim6730 3 года назад +1

      I think, it's designed for anyone who is working low income family with children. It's got started in the United States by Former President Jimmy Carter. I thought the volunteer hours were 500. In the meantime on the waiting list, you have to volunteer your hours and build other Habitat for Humanity homes. It's not free you still have to pay the mortgage and your bills.
      I wonder what this people sign?
      I did some research and here are the requirements. Potential application must be families with at least one child 16 years or under at the time of application. Canadian citizen or permanent resident. At least one of the application or co-applicant must be employed full time of full time equivalent. Do not currently own real estate. Rent or contribution currently paid towards rent, exceeds 35% net income. You must also have a credit score of 580 or higher.

    • @young-soonkim6730
      @young-soonkim6730 3 года назад +2

      Why did they waited six years to come forward! I think, the reason they did not qualified because they had "No Credit History" in Canada.
      Home owner who collect Welfare have the pay back all the money they received from Welfare or even some from the Disability when they sell their house. The reason Ontario Government changed the law in the mid 90's is that too many people were taking advantage of our system. Also, They put a lien on the property.

    • @arnoldromppai5395
      @arnoldromppai5395 3 года назад +2

      @@The_Keh27 yes they are, i got busted up at work and spent 27 years with a law suit with wsib, only for my wife of 9 year cashed out with a court order to sell my land i paid cash when i was18, got my settlement, flood my mobile home, and get a court order to have the total write off check from my insurance company, stole all my life time trades tools sold my tractor. , she make 60k a tear and i live on 1030 cpp disability, and they wouldnt even talk to me.. i live in drafty black mold now for years

  • @sammroueh9867
    @sammroueh9867 Год назад +1

    That's why u hire a lawyer upon going to sign the house agreement and your lawyer keeps copies and u keep some too that they don't mess around

  • @VickyVicky-bs1cw
    @VickyVicky-bs1cw 3 года назад +12

    When I came to Canada no one offerd me free home .. if they did i would have taken it and be grateful ! They got half a million dollar home for 500 hoursof work !! And complain?! I had to work for that 30 years and pay my mortgage!

    • @tjmarx
      @tjmarx 3 года назад +13

      No one offered this family a free home either... They're fighting over the right to have the mortgage that was promised to them, and the house sale at the price agreed.
      They did 500 hours charity work for HFH in lieu of a down payment, which is the equivalent to the amount of hours anyone would work to make a down payment.
      You don't seem to have understood the story

    • @zabag
      @zabag 3 года назад +6

      How did you graduate from school if you can't even understand a simple news story? Watch it with a friend. They may be able to explain it to you in a simpler way so that you can understand it.

  • @pants8029
    @pants8029 3 года назад +14

    i'm not sure suing a charity is a good look for anyone.

    • @Proyapper0
      @Proyapper0 3 года назад +6

      Charity can be deceptive

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +3

      @Pants pretty sure they aren’t worried about “looks” case in point: suing a charity for a FREE house w/no interest rate? Greedy

    • @queennoneya601
      @queennoneya601 2 года назад +2

      Pants. What are you talking about. I'd sue god if he tried to swindle me.

    • @pants8029
      @pants8029 2 года назад

      @@queennoneya601 god isn't real.

    • @teresamyers8056
      @teresamyers8056 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Reina.Nijinsky go look at the video again, you sure going to be knocking yourself over the head saying to yourself man wow I’m so silly I should look at the whole entire videos before I open up my mouth.

  • @pro-tection9140
    @pro-tection9140 3 года назад +4

    Greater Vancouver is one of the most expensive regions on the continent. if you can't afford Burnaby/Metro Mainland, try moving west to Regina. Houses are not free- and verbal agreements are not binding/legal. Verbal agreements also don't have paper involved.....
    Habitat for Humanity has been doing excellent charity work across North America for years. No complaints.... until now? lol

    • @nocause5395
      @nocause5395 3 года назад +3

      In what way shape or form did they say free. They have been paying over a thousand a month for the last 6 years and had been promised a mortgage after a year. They don't want it free

  • @MrLoobu
    @MrLoobu 3 года назад +10

    Habitat for humanity is an oxymoron. We destroyed them all and made our own lol.

  • @TB-bb6kb
    @TB-bb6kb 3 года назад +5

    Did. You. Enter. The. Idea. To. Actually. Work. For That. I say. Earn. It. I. Wish. To. See. Your. Lawyer. Insted. Of. Paying. Him. --- pay. Your. Rent. Freeloufer

  • @mauraquish1005
    @mauraquish1005 3 года назад +4

    How come this real deal does it apply to all Canadians. Why do they get a deal 6;years later ....how many fMilies a
    So deserve such a deal. Thanks clods...

  • @dallas2783
    @dallas2783 Год назад

    Of course, entitled privileged same individuals demanding handouts.

  • @user-ko7si3fh9r
    @user-ko7si3fh9r 3 года назад

  • @ericc5494
    @ericc5494 3 года назад +5

    I would jump at the chance to get what they were given...a lot more affordable than what I have

    • @tjmarx
      @tjmarx 3 года назад +7

      You seem to have missed the story

  • @DjAdam16
    @DjAdam16 3 года назад +4

    Nobody cares.

  • @arock1999
    @arock1999 3 года назад +3

    Since when is Oral Contracts guaranteed and who's word are we supposed to believe? If it seems too good to be true it must be. They can't afford the house? It's doubled in price already....sell it and get a new house somewhere else in another town if you have to....they would be lucky having paid off their entire mortgage in only 5 years. After 15 years I'm still paying for mine. As well this will cost tax payers for the legal fees AND if they win will cost someone else their new home. That's what I call selfish.

  • @MrCanuck78
    @MrCanuck78 3 года назад +15

    If you dont like whats happening then move !. You are lucky to even own a home in Canada right now . Try finding anything for the new rate you were given and see if its unfair . Ungrateful Pirates

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +4

      If you dont like hearing about this, why dont you MOVE.

    • @arock1999
      @arock1999 3 года назад +4

      @@2Sarah to be fair they don't need to move very far....the house has doubled in value....that means if they were to sell it they would have enough in their pocket to move to a different town and buy a house outright and yes there are still homes out there at 250K or less in good shape you just have to be willing to move to a small town with that price range. That would mean they paid their house off in 5 years...After about 15 years I'm still paying for my house.

    • @MrCanuck78
      @MrCanuck78 3 года назад +4

      @@2Sarah They are threating to sue a organization that helps families find homes , and are probably going to cost another family the chance to get a home themselves and you are protecting them with hate ? haha . P.s How would moving help me from hearing about this on RUclips ? lmao . Loser !

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +4

      @@MrCanuck78 reported the Luna woman for trolling. Have screenshots. Others have too.

    • @kokoniqueful
      @kokoniqueful 22 дня назад

      @@arock1999according to H4H rules, you have to sell the house back to H4H at the same price it was sold to you. They take most of the equity and only share a small percentage (if any)back to homeowners.

  • @faosilva2009
    @faosilva2009 3 года назад +18

    hummm now theyare going to sues what they got for free hahahahah , i wonder if they have the same in somalia?

    • @mahbubmo
      @mahbubmo 3 года назад +8

      Try learning English first. Then you can critique a country.

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +1

      clever coming from a....

    • @faosilva2009
      @faosilva2009 3 года назад +2

      @@mahbubmo hahahah you are very funny guy hahahah

    • @faosilva2009
      @faosilva2009 3 года назад +2

      @@mahbubmo and its NOT about a country , its what THEY ARE !!!!

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +4

      @@2Sarah wow this Luna woman is a troll! She trolled me until I blocked her 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @sheldoncampbell2139
    @sheldoncampbell2139 3 года назад +3

    maybe let the wife talk a little...

    • @jdh9606
      @jdh9606 3 года назад +2

      Straight up. It's a bit disturbing. Hoping their children can break the chain of patriarchy.

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 3 года назад +6

    Yep, let the courts decide - All the way to the Supreme Court of Canada if need be.

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +2

      @@globalwarmhugs7741 They also pay tax too whats your point?

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 3 года назад

      @@globalwarmhugs7741 They will need to pay for their own Legal team

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 3 года назад

      @@globalwarmhugs7741 They are there full time anyways. Plus there are principals involved

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 3 года назад

      @@globalwarmhugs7741 It is not the least bit free. Get it?

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 3 года назад

      @@globalwarmhugs7741 Cool

  • @zelda401
    @zelda401 3 года назад +8

    SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. CANADIANS GET THE SAME DEAL .Wjy do you feel that you are different or unrealistic

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +8

      Wait I have a novel idea, how about these refugees WORK just like the rest of us? 🤔instead of having their hat out? 🤷🏻‍♀️ I am 🇺🇸 American abd we face the same dynamics here with refugees.

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +5

      @@Reina.Nijinsky Learn to write correctly before you speak such nonsense.

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +5

      @@2Sarah huh? Did u find “work for a living” offensive? 🤷🏻‍♀️ or are u/r a refugee at the free handouts line? 🤦🏻‍♀️ meh 😒 guess a degree from NYU isn’t worth much anymore 😂

    • @2Sarah
      @2Sarah 3 года назад +5

      @@Reina.Nijinsky They are working for a living???? so again what you said is nonsense.

    • @Reina.Nijinsky
      @Reina.Nijinsky 3 года назад +3

      @@2Sarah clearly English is not ur first language. U might want to Google wut/I wrote? 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @blowinkk9396
    @blowinkk9396 3 года назад +1

    Right because you should be given a house at half of what it is worth

  • @oatesrandy513
    @oatesrandy513 3 года назад +4

    I’m sure you could get a beautiful place in Somalia for $255,000

  • @lauralaplace9945
    @lauralaplace9945 3 месяца назад

    Put God first .

  • @jeycalc6877
    @jeycalc6877 3 года назад +5

    Stay in somalia