Yashica Super-600 Electro Super 8 Camera Breakdown / Review | Sync Sound to Vision 200T | Filmboy24
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Complete overview of the Yashica Super-600 Electro Super 8 Camera.
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I always enjoy the sound experiments, this with the color came out really well.
I'm not sure why, but it reminded me of some way back footage from a 1960's nature documentary type program like Wild Kingdom. You're right this is our golf game !
Thanks for the always great content ! ! !
Thank you, Cecil!! I used to love watching Wild Kingdom, just wholesome, entertaining television 😀
Processing came out great! Mike is becoming the guru of small format home processed film.
Thanks, Dave!!
Just picked this camera up from my local film store and got it for a killer deal. Very helpful video, I’m excited to start playing around with this. Thanks for this!
That's awesome news! Have fun with it and thanks so much for watching!!
Heck yeah! I thought the sync was very good.. all things considered! This makes me want to get my Yashica Super 800 Electro camera back out of it’s case, finish off whatever film I had been shooting in it, load it with “fresh” (less than 20 yr old) expired film, and release my inner Wes Anderson all up in that bee-otch. In preparation for pre-production on the film I hope to submit for the upcoming film festival that’s taking place this fall. Thanks Mr. Mike!
Thanks, Mike!! Drag that bad boy out and finish your roll off! I'm afraid if you shoot "newer" film, you're not welcome around here anymore 🤣🤣🤣
One of your best video yet Mike! I had one of these cameras (using it for a few years until it died beyond repair) and it is not only outstanding and produces excellent results with good film stock, but you can get these working and clean (save the battery compartment or a few things not working, like the battery tester) for around $30.00 if you look long enough. There are seven similar Yashica SUPER models and two similar ELECTRO 8 models (the LD-6 and LD-8) that all do 24 pfs and really deliver. My model did not have that slight running issue.
Thank you, Nicholas!!
Yes, there are a lot of these Yashica Super models, all of them are about the same camera with slight variations of lenses. I've tested a Super 40 with film though. I'd say like everything Yashica there are a lot of these cameras that were good. They came from a time period in the 1960s where Japan was finally working out how to truly compete with Europe... And honestly, outside of the bigger brands e.g. Bolex, and Leica, and so on, they're actually a surprisingly heavy hitting camera.
The lenses are sharp when you nail focus, and they have a trick. The aperture blades are connected to a servo motor so if you stay within the aperture range without over or under exposing you will always get correct lighting that the camera calculates itself. The light meter coupling to the aperture blades is a really neat trick actually. It's really hard to completely blow out your lighting with one of these types of cameras if you know what you're doing and that's what I like the best.
The fact that you can find the whole range for under $50 makes for a really good run and gun camera. You can even rig up a cold shoe if you have the Kodak Movie Light key. I grabbed a 3D printed cold shoe from AliExpress, and a couple of washers which I used as spacers to turn my light key into a cold shoe. Now that I have a shoe I can mount a light, a microphone, or onboard recorder. You could even hook up a USB shotgun or lav mic to your phone if you had something like a small rig cage for your phone and use your phone as the sound recorder. Although you run into the usual issues. These things aren't quiet, so a shotgun would pick up all the noise the shutter would be making (which is a lot).
i love all your videos but when you pair a camera Review with a sound sync....well then its just ... 👌👌👌👌👌👌
😂 Thanks so much, Lyle!!
The extra Audio-sync test is ALWAYS much appreciated. Because hey, it's not a un-important aspect to cover because some of these cameras are pretty stable for not being quaz-sync'd sound cameras. Heavy and robust cameras are my favorite. All metal and very very little plastic. I don't mind the extra weight when i get more sturdiness. And it's great this cam doesn't need a battery adapter but you can just slam in AAs just as it is. Love the staircase notch detection. Always a good sign for a camera that can handle various ISO ranges. The fact that it shoots 24fps too really makes me like this beauty even more ^.^ Because yea, i too prefer shooting a proper standard like that too. The all electronic zoom however dampens the mood a little. :P Also.. i wonder if the Vision 2 roll was ever exposed to X-Rays. Because i have a feeling the slight tint may have been a result of that.
Thank you, Mike!! You're right, it seems like audio is often overlooked when talking about cine film. I think it'll be the topic of my next livestream :)
As far as my 200T, not sure if it was exposed to X-Rays or not, but I can tell you that hand/home processing and scanning does make a big difference. Quite frankly, my results will likely never be "great", especially with older film but it sure is fun!!
@@Filmboy24 Well, self developing is part of the fun. The experimental nature, the haptic thing, the uncertainty of how good or bad it will turn out. X3 i feel the same about soldering things together myself. Like little radio kits for example. I think with expired material and mysterious stock (like the old Kodachrome soundfilm you processed and scanned, it's fun because you're not wasting precious recordings but have a little more freedom and less things to worry about.
Thank you. I have the Yashica super 40 electronic 9-36mm 1.8 lens. I shot one roll of modern ektachrome at 18 frames per second. Upon playback with a super 8 movie projector the film also appeared sped up a bit. I didn't know if it was the camera or the projector. Now I know, thanks.
Thanks for watching, Timothy!!
Always impressed when you sync sound with that little recorder, and a nice camera! Even though speed is off a bit, you did a nice job. I actually have three(!) of the Super 60 E, same camera and lens but silver and lens housing is a bit different. I bought one and it works great, ran some film through it, movie is here on my "channel" if you want to see too much panning of some pretty trees and snow capped mtns. here in CO. Motor squeaks, so I bought another, works great, then got a third in a lot of 4 cameras for a cheap bid! I have two remotes that work, as well as two keys for filter. Anyway, sorry to ramble, great vid as usual!
Thanks, Rich!! This is a fun little camera, that I don't feel like you have to be too careful with, as it's a tank. Some cameras also have so many controls on them that I feel like I'm switching something on or off every time I pick them up. I didn't realize until after I finished this video that the lens actually unscrews out of the housing. It exposes the inside of the camera front, maybe for maintenance or cleaning & repair? I'll check out your video.
@@Filmboy24 Yes, they have a beautiful, 60's sci-fi look and feel, really well built and solid, very little plastic....I was playing with the remote on one last night, work great, will have to set it up on a tripod and try it out! Still trying to get a package off to you.....life is throwing me alot of curveballs lately...thanks again!~
I have the less advanced Super 40. These cameras have a surprisingly good lenses even for a basic auto exposure camera and they're a reflex camera so they have a viewfinder. They're surprisingly simple to use because all of the dials are on the side for the frame rates, film counter and that's all you need to know. Being a silent camera of that era it can only take 50ft cartridges, but that's all that''s available. It does have a port for mounting a light on top, although from the manual if you put the key in it also activates the ND filter (to match the light source) so you might want to disable the internal ND by inserting the key if you don't want everything to come out blue.
If you have the key and your smart like I am I grabbed a 3D printed cold shoe off AliExpress and rigged it up on mine so you can hook a field recorder to the side of the camera as well as a pop light. If you don't have the key like yourself, you can grab ANY of them as they are standard Kodak product. You might just have to search for something like "Kodak movie light key" to find the right product.
Fun fact also Mike, there was also an option for an electronic cable release for these cameras, it's on the opposite side to the mechanical release triggers.
These Yashica cameras are a surprisingly good base to build a silent camera from, although for better results and to gain some stabilisation you might consider mounting it to a shoulder mounted rig, or like you did with a tripod if you don't want to move anywhere. You can get a traditional Hi8 or VHS shoulder rig though if you want more stability and to move around, I bought a cheap one off ebay. The ones with a chest strap for added stability. It works well, although you feel a bit like George Lucas when you have a thing like this rigged up on your shoulder.
Probably the best thing about this is that the light meter is servo controlled so its accurate, provided there aren't huge shifts in light really quickly, and it is coupled to the aperture blades. I've driven round in a car with one of these and still maintained accurate light readings... You just have to make sure you stay out of the red zone on the light meter. The other good thing is that the light meter batteries are coupled to the camera batteries so you don't need a second set of batteries just to run the light meter.
Thanks for all the info!! This isn't actually my camera, so I will probably not get the key, but the cold shoe is a great idea. I did mention the electronic release option on the other side of the camera, I just didn't have the cable for it. They really are pretty solid cameras, I may pick one up if I catch one at the right price 😉
@@Filmboy24 Yes, the entire series of this camera are good if you just want a simple camera to pick up and just use without wondering about settings.
I liked it a lot. True the sync is a micro tad off but this only makes it more interesting. I've probably purchased at least a hundred vintage cameras over the years and the number that were nearly perfect in function I could count on one hand. Online auction film cameras are notorious for issues. Again, it was a fun experiment and very successful.
Stop, Dale, you know my sync is perfect! 😂😂 Buying old cameras is absolutely a gamble. A gamble that you and I are all too familiar with 😀
Great camera review Mike! Just started to look into inquiring a super 8 camera. So many choices out there any suggestions for a very simple camera for beginners? Always enjoy the content and enjoy the Sunday chats! Thanks for sharing and the passion!
Thank you, Jeffrey!! I honestly think you can never go wrong (unless it doesn't work) with a Minolta 401XL. It can be a tad pricey but I think it's a great beginner and beyond camera. For a more budget option, I really like the Sankyo EM-40XL. Similar in features but typically a lot less money.
Wow. Great results.
Thank you!!
Lovely! Keep it up! 😊👍🏻
Thanks, Bernt!!
outstanding!!!
Thanks again, Jake!!
mike, I actually have the Yashica remote for that camera. I just didn't think to send it.
No worries, fun little camera. It'll be heading back to you next week :)
Mike, have you got the Mk2 retro scanner yet
Hey Stephen, not yet, but had a good conversation a couple of days ago with Roger (owner, MovieStuff). Soon, hopefully 🤔
@@Filmboy24 Can't wait to see the video when it arrives
Interesting! I would prefer a camera that supports shutter release cable this way, each slot doing its own thing, still or motion, because when I tried to use it on Electro 8 LD 4, the rotating dial (RL and all) got it stuck to continuous right away and I was really confused and I had to remove it. But this way, it feels more secure and you know what you are doing and cant accidentally do either actions.
Decent result and love the contrast. Since this was tungsten balanced, did you engage the filter or did you warm it up on post, if it was blue
Thank you!! The cable release really is a good way to do it. It's more like just an extension of your finger pulling the trigger. Much better control. Yes, the filter was engaged with this roll, but there was still a tiny bit of blue cast that I had to fix in post.
What did you do to clean up the camera for it to work again? I just got one for free, but it’s not working :( The camera is in excellent shape, minus a little corrosion that was in the battery area but I cleaned it really nicely but still can’t get it to work properly. Any advice is so appreciated!!! No local camera shops around me can do the repair either
Getting these old cameras to run can be quite a task sometimes. It's often a little deeper issue than just corrosion on the battery terminals, in fact, there are many times when that corrosion makes its way deeper into the camera where it can't be seen. If you have some (or can get it), you might want to try spraying some contact cleaner into the battery compartment. It's safe for electronics and I've had a few cameras come to life after using it. Beyond that, you may have to try and open it up, which is tricky. I recommend you take a lot of photos as you go if you try this. Look for corrosion at the back side of the terminals and on the wires. A small amount of vinegar will go a long way in eating through corrosion. Best of luck!
@@Filmboy24I did all this with the one I got and only the zoom worked. I sent it back
Hola, if the dioptric ring is broken, is it fixable? Seems like a little screw on the ring is missing… is it worth it to repair? I don’t use glasses
Hi Carlos, you might be better off just leaving it alone, especially if you have good vision. Try and make sure it's all the way in (usually) and that would probably work for you.
do you know what would happen if i tried to load some 500t into the camera? would it just rate it at 400?
Yes it will, and I wouldn't worry at all about that tiny bit of overexposure, 500T has a pretty wide range of latitude.
@@Filmboy24 thank you
So what happens if you put 500T inside?
It would meter just fine. It would overexpose by a tad, which is not a big deal with Vision stocks.
does it read at 400 or 100 when you have over 400 ASA inside @@Filmboy24
tho I appreciate the vid, it could have also been 5 mins long.
I mean, technically, any video could have been 5 minutes long. They could also be 2 hours long, duh