Cherry Appalachian Fretless Mountain Banjo From Barn Wood

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2011
  • Here's a video of my latest build. As I stated in this video, the banjo is constructed entirely from wood pulled from a corn crib on my dad's barn. It just don't get any more mountain than that folks lol. Enjoy, and as always, any questions, feel free to ask!
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  • @thomasd9237
    @thomasd9237 Год назад +1

    👍👍 great sound, cool build

  • @drewby613
    @drewby613 2 года назад +1

    Great job! Thanks for posting this. Beautiful banjo, w great sound.

  • @stigandr5
    @stigandr5 13 лет назад +1

    This was a good use of my few minutes of good Internet connection today! Well, well done! That is gorgeous wood. I hope by the time I can set up a real workshop I can find some wood with as much country credibility as "quarter-sawn cherry off the walls of a corn crib." You just can't make that stuff up! Again, great job. Loved it.

  • @sim4lin
    @sim4lin 13 лет назад +1

    Great banjo,
    Looks and sound both are perfect!

  • @Muzikman127
    @Muzikman127 5 лет назад +1

    What a wonderful instrument. Great job. (And greetings from the UK)

  • @yugio1971
    @yugio1971 13 лет назад

    great sounding banjo,looks good to!!!

  • @JamesShelton59
    @JamesShelton59 12 лет назад +1

    Amazing sound! Very well done!

  • @andrewsackville-west1609
    @andrewsackville-west1609 7 лет назад

    really nice! big grin when you started playing. what a great sound.

  • @don4279
    @don4279 5 лет назад +1

    Great craftsmanship Frankie! A one-of-a-kind unique instrument!

  • @trackie1957
    @trackie1957 4 года назад

    That’s just lovely! Like the headstock carving

  • @appamtnculture1302
    @appamtnculture1302 8 лет назад +1

    Very cool banjo, very cool sounding tune. Well done.

  • @danogle9927
    @danogle9927 7 лет назад

    That thing sounds great.Good job

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад +1

    Thanks again! Mucho gracias as they say in the way South. I've thought about selling them someday, but only after my skills improve. I've not made one yet that didn't have some mistakes, and I'd feel guilty about taking money for them! Take care and thanks for watching!

  • @LNP292
    @LNP292 11 лет назад

    Real nice Frank sounds really good,looks great too.

  • @Cj12sings
    @Cj12sings 13 лет назад

    WOW great job!!!! goodbye corn crib!!!nice playin and build!!! loved the banjo uke build as well!!!
    best regards
    cj

  • @Ettoredipugnar
    @Ettoredipugnar 8 лет назад

    Great sound !!!

  • @krisfiskle
    @krisfiskle 6 лет назад

    shes a beaut. sweet sound lovely piece of work there man. cheers

  • @DanDDirges
    @DanDDirges 6 лет назад

    Nice hand made banjer! Great speaking voice!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  12 лет назад

    Thank you so much. I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Thanks for the kind words and your question! The bowl that I used was a straight sided bowl. I cut the bottom off, kind of sliced it off like you would slice a round slice from a wheel of cheese. Once it was done, I had a wooden hoop. This is there in place of the traditional metal ring. It does have a wooden ring/hoop that makes the middle layer of the body, and also has the bowl converted to a hoop inside of that, which rests against the back plate, providing tension for the head.

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Howdy! Thanks again for the question and the kind words.
    To ream the peg holes I used a hardware store tapered reamer. It matched the angle fairly close, but it's not exact. It would be better to buy one made for the purpose I would say. For the 5th string I bought a second reamer and cut it a good deal shorter so the extra length wouldn't come out the side of the neck.
    As far as the screws go,, they're just plain old wood screws screwed into the center ring. (continued)

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    I've used nuts and bolts before with good results. You can apply a good deal of pressure with the nuts and bolts as opposed to screws without fear of stripping the wood. I used the nut and bolt setup on one that had a mahogany center ring that I was worried about screws stripping out of.
    Well, thanks again, and be sure to ask away if you need anymore help!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Awesome! Glad you got it done!
    I tune mine to a tuning like double "C", but down 1 1/2 steps to "A". i found that that the nylon strings don't like a whole lot of tension, especially the high re-entrant string.
    You've got a lot of leeway with the bridge placement. I like to place it so what would be my fifth fret lines up perfectly with the 5th string nut. So I've got a bit of a road map and at least know where the 5th fret is.Thanks for the question, and take care!

  • @GreenFordFocus09
    @GreenFordFocus09 11 лет назад

    Nice work :)

  • @bobhohi
    @bobhohi 8 лет назад

    Very cool!

  • @FlatfootJohnny
    @FlatfootJohnny 13 лет назад

    real nice... didnt know you could get 6 inch remo heads. I might give that ago next time .

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    @FlatfootJohnny Hey, thanks a lot! Its good to know you liked it, because I've sure gotten a lot of inspiration from your work myself. I get these from Musician's Friend. They are drum heads, but they seem to work good for this.They are kinda thick though, but thinning this one out with a bit of sandpaper seemed to work well.

  • @stanhenderson7393
    @stanhenderson7393 5 лет назад +1

    That cherry is really nice. The sound hole is cool. You should keep doing that. Did you have to get a violin peg auger to make those holes fit in the tapered shape? I think sometimes they use a little string resin to keep those grippy.

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  12 лет назад

    Thanks for the kind words too!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    @sim4lin Thank you very much for the comment. I'm glad you liked it!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад +1

    Hey, thanks for the kind words! I appreciate them all! There are some good diagrams in the Foxfire 3 book for mountain banjos. If you are interested, I built a banjo uke a while back, and I have a video of it up here you can find if you search through my other videos. Maybe it might give you a few ideas (what to do and what NOT to do lol). Thanks for watching!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    @stigandr5 Thanks a lot for the kind words Nathan! I'm glad you got some enjoyment out of this, as I've gotten plenty of inspiration from your vids. Let me know when you get back in Hoosier land and get a shop set up, I'm sure I'll have some left. I will require the princely sum of a couple of canjo tunes though!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Thank you very much for the kind words!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  12 лет назад

    I would just make a dowel coming out of the heel of the neck. Either make a separate dowel, or cut it out of the heel end of your neck blank (making it one piece). I've tried the separate dowel thing, and I have better luck either making it one piece or making it when I glue up the heel, but you may be different. If you have a dowel extending the length of the tin, and have the tailpiece anchored on the end of the dowel, you probably won't need much of a frame inside. Thanks for the comment too

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Thanks a lot!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Well, I sure do appreciate the kind words my friend!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  12 лет назад

    Indeed! Too bad I didn't do that intentionally lol! Thanks for your comment.

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    That tuning is eAeab by the way. I bought a tuner a little while back and can check these things now lol. That would be from the fifth string (short top re-entrant string) to the 1st (string closest to the floor)

  • @foxesandfeathers
    @foxesandfeathers 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the explanation, i'm understand what you did now. How thick is the wood for your salad bowl?
    I picked up a stainless steel dog bowl that I was going to cut the bottom off of but it does tapper a bit, I wonder if it will work alight

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    The bowl I used has a wall thickness of about 1/2" and the depth is about 2 1/2". It's outside diameter is 6". I would think your dog bowl would work as long as the taper isn't too steep. As long as it fit's snugly against the head and the back applies pressure, I wouldn't think a bit of taper would hurt anything. It might even sound better than a straight sided bowl. The whole spirit of these things are to use what's available. Thanks for the question and good luck!

  • @wesleyofficer1237
    @wesleyofficer1237 4 года назад +1

    "Cherry corn crib" ranks rite up there with "walnut crosstie" 😭

  • @DiviningLife
    @DiviningLife 11 лет назад

    you blow my mind

  • @justhollerhandyman
    @justhollerhandyman 7 лет назад

    Hey Big Frankie...I'm building one currently (my first), have plenty of tools and lumber. The question is, the 3/4 cherry versus the 1/2 inch oak is very different sounding. I play your sound bite on the oak to other people and tell them that is what I'm trying to get. What should I do, go with the standard plan or try to repeat what you did with the oak/softwood/wooden bowl tone ring? That's the sound!!
    Thanks

  • @hoepsipoepsi
    @hoepsipoepsi 11 лет назад

    good job! engineer of instrument you are ;)

  • @foxesandfeathers
    @foxesandfeathers 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the info, i haven't tried double C on this thing yet just sawmill and open G. I tuned up to aEAC#E (open A?) last night, think that plays a bit better. I'm just trying to figure out a good tension for these strings without breakin' em! I've been having some trouble with my 5th string, i've broken it once and even before/after replacing.. the sound doesn't ring very well. it's quite muted.. have you had this problem? wondering if maybe the slotted screw needs to be filed or something

  • @jcrrice100
    @jcrrice100 9 лет назад

    YOU ARE THE BEST BANJO PLAYER EVER! What age did you learn?

  • @foxesandfeathers
    @foxesandfeathers 11 лет назад

    It's provin' to be a pain cutting up this bowl but we'll see if it works out, i'm liking the sound of your wood tone ring though.
    Few more questions i've run into if you don't mind sharing some knowledge..what did you use to ream your peg heads (and the 5th)?
    And for the screws you use to tighten the head together, are those just threaded into the center piece or is it more of a nut/bolt setup?
    thanks!

  • @foxesandfeathers
    @foxesandfeathers 11 лет назад

    Hey there, finally got my mountain banjo built! What do you suggest you tune these guys to? Trying to figure out a good tension/bridge placement. How tight do you normally string it to?
    thanks!

  • @CrowBanjo37
    @CrowBanjo37 12 лет назад

    really nice...have you made any ore of these?

  • @foxesandfeathers
    @foxesandfeathers 11 лет назад

    This one sounds really good. I'm curious about the bowl instead of the metal ring you're using inside the banjo. Most mountain banjos have the top and bottom wood plates, sandwiching a wood hoop and a metal ring (fitting inside the hoop)right? Does yours still have that wood hoop but some kind of wood ring (bowl) inside of that, or is it just the wood ring(bowl)?
    How thick is the bowl and does it have an curvature to it like most bowls?
    thanks!

  • @Rachels123
    @Rachels123 9 лет назад

    From building guitars I learned, if the strings don't sit in deep slots in the nut, they ring out more.

  • @colinbower1115
    @colinbower1115 7 лет назад

    How did you secure the drum head to the body? I'm planning on making one of my own, and am having trouble finding out how to secure it. This is a very nice banjo!!

    • @bigfrankiej3211
      @bigfrankiej3211  7 лет назад

      Howdy, and thanks for the kind words! The drum head is kinda squished between the top and the tone ring. The hole in the top of the body is slightly smaller than the drum head, then I have tone ring (just a ring of wood that I made from a square sided wooden bowl that I cut the bottom off of) that is pushing against the bottom of the drum head, kind of pushing it through the hole in the top. The back of the banjo presses against the tone ring as the screws are tightened, providing the tension. Just think of a typical drum, with the top of the banjo being the tension ring, and the tone ring doing the same thing as the drum shell. Except instead of having hardware pulling the tension ring, the back is pushing the tone ring against the head.

  • @damoncash5773
    @damoncash5773 8 лет назад

    sounds awesome,realy good job.where can I find the plans for this banjo...?

  • @donotsmudge
    @donotsmudge 10 лет назад

    Hi Frankie. I've enjoyed all your videos. I play guitar a bit and do a lot of woodworking. I'd like to make a fretless banjo. What is the distance between the bridge and the nut. Is there a standard measurement. Thks.

    • @bigfrankiej
      @bigfrankiej 10 лет назад +1

      The scale length on mine is 26 1/2 inches. It seems like most banjos are in the 26-27 inch range, but I don't know if there's any standard length. With the fretless there's a little leeway with the scale length. I tried to make sure that the 5th fret lined up with the 5th string nut so I'd have a bit of a roadmap of sorts. Thanks for the question!

  • @foxesandfeathers
    @foxesandfeathers 11 лет назад

    Hey there, thanks for the reply!
    i started reaming my holes today and noticed that all of my violin pegs seem to be slightly different thicknesses (means i'd have to ream deeper on certain ones) is this normal or did i just get a bad batch of violin pegs?

  • @KevinPatrickJr
    @KevinPatrickJr 12 лет назад

    I have a question maybe you could help me with. I'm interested in making kind of a synthesis of two styles of banjo. I want to use a tin instead of a drum, but I have a specific tin in mind which is rectangular, about 6 inches tall and 4 wide. A bit on the small side, but I think it'll do all right. How would you suggest building the wooden frame, and the tension-rod/full-neck? Thanks, that's a beautiful instrument you have there.

  • @ZaTsoja
    @ZaTsoja 5 лет назад

    Frankie u are the new Brian May (built his Red Special of the piece of antique wood and smth more....)

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Howdy and thanks for the kind words! I'm sorry but I really don't get into building instruments for other people. I don't have a lot of shop time anymore, and my instruments are a little too "rustic" for me to feel comfortable selling them. Once again, I'm really sorry, and I sure do thank you for your interest.

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    The bowl is about 1/2" in thickness, and is constructed much like a modern banjo block rim. I hope that answered your question. If not, shoot me another message! Thanks again!

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    @yugio1971 I really do appreciate the kind words!

  • @stigandr5
    @stigandr5 13 лет назад

    That's a deal!

  • @frankmoore2797
    @frankmoore2797 7 лет назад

    What kind of tail piece did you use?

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    @eugeneukulele Hey! Thanks a lot buddy! Really appreciate it.

  • @MrHacienda1
    @MrHacienda1 3 года назад

    Hello bigfrankiej3211: I just got a fretless mountain banjo (Frank Proffett style). Regrading where second fret should be; I have noticed that when I place my finger in a position on the first string to get an E note (using an electronic tuner the see the E note) that I have to move my finger slightly back from where the first string position was to get a true E note on the 4th string. It that just the way it is or is the bridge no placed correctly? Help.

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  12 лет назад

    Howdy! No, I've been lazy as far as banjo building goes. I've got one I'm working on now that is going to be a fretted version of my fretless nylon string bowl banjo. I've got it about 2/3's of the way done, but it's moving along slower than a 80 year old woman's bowels. I'll post a vid of it when I finish it, but it's not very"Appalachian"

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    Hey buddy! Glad you enjoyed my random act of repurposeification (yeah, new word)! I love the comment, and I thank you for it.

  • @MrHacienda1
    @MrHacienda1 4 года назад

    What strings do you use on the mountain banjo?

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic 8 лет назад

    Where does one obtain these strings? Do I need to order them online or can I get them from Sam Ash or something?

    • @bigfrankiej3211
      @bigfrankiej3211  8 лет назад

      I got mine from Elderly Instruments. They are the Aquila Minstrel nylon strings

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 8 лет назад

      bigfrankiej3211 Oh okay. I got you. At first I thought you meant that you got the strings from old instruments. XD Thanks.

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  13 лет назад

    @Cj12sings Thanks for the sub too!

  • @mmunz
    @mmunz 9 лет назад

    Hey do you think you could give me some kind of like list instruction to making one I'm really trying to get into playing banjo's and feel I'd prefer making my own.

    • @bigfrankiej3211
      @bigfrankiej3211  9 лет назад +1

      Maxwell W. Munz Howdy! I used the Foxfire book (number 3 I think) heavily in building mine. I also used the plan on bluestemstrings.com for the Frank Proffitt style banjo. I kind of came up with something I liked mainly from those two and just went for it. I used a round, straight sided wooden bowl with the bottom cut off for the head tensioner/tone ring (instead of rolled up sheet steel), and I used a small drum head that I thinned out with sandpaper instead of using groundhog or house cat skin (it seemed to be a bit easier than catching a neighborhood cat). It's basically just two round discs of wood with tabs on one side for the neck to bolt to, one round disc in the center (3 layers sandwiched) then the neck. The face plate should have a hole big enough for whatever head/tone ring combo you choose to fit through, and the back plate should have a small enough hole that the tone ring presses against the back without going through, so it will tighten the head up. Definitely check out the foxfire book though. Ive got another video of a different banjo I built (ruclips.net/video/6GGa-jaTVtY/видео.html) that is made a bit differently. The front and back plate are 1/2" thick being the main difference. I like the 3/4" thick front and back plate like in this one better though. Hope this helps some. Let me know if I've confused you further lol. Good luck!

    • @bigfrankiej3211
      @bigfrankiej3211  9 лет назад

      Maxwell W. Munz This is a good video too: ruclips.net/video/rix6LfdLlnc/видео.html

    • @olejason
      @olejason 8 лет назад

      +bigfrankiej3211 Thanks for this explanation, big help

  • @clawhammer704
    @clawhammer704 8 месяцев назад

    You made anymore?

  • @a.protas7091
    @a.protas7091 Год назад

    Sound good, but it`s a monster

  • @clayguinard3651
    @clayguinard3651 4 года назад

    Where are you located

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  11 лет назад

    Hmmm...no, I've never run into that. I'd think that might be bad quality control. I'm no expert though. I don't see why they wouldn't work though, maybe just look a little strange.

  • @nutmegger1957
    @nutmegger1957 9 лет назад

    It has a fairly muted sound..............sorta like listening to a cylinder record from years ago.

  • @brianthompson2089
    @brianthompson2089 5 лет назад

    Sounds like a koto

  • @bigfrankiej3211
    @bigfrankiej3211  12 лет назад

    BTW, sorry I took so long to reply. Your comment showed up in my spam folder for some reason.

  • @rtoweprojects9072
    @rtoweprojects9072 Год назад

    Please come back with your instruments.