Where are all the preserved McDonnell Douglas DC-10s (and their KC-10 siblings)?.
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2024
- Another video showing the locations and brief histories of members of the McDonnell Douglas DC-10/KC-10 family of jet aircraft, in Museums, and those still being used as ground trainers for first responders and technicians. plus one member that might still be flying.
Thanks to the usual sources of pictures, aka Airliners.net and Flickr, along with a few other sources of the real hard to find pictures of surviving aircraft.
Some surprises when I went down this rabbit hole.
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I want to thank everyone for their comments and for viewingthis video. I just want to make sure everyone understands that, I do realize a few of this model is still flying, and they aren't included, because they aren't curently being preserved. And yes, I do know of this plane's reputation, but that is not the point of this video.
Bolero, seriously?
I was a KC-10A crew chief 98-02. They were still beautiful then, even after 20-30 years of service. Sad to see them retiring now!
The first plane I ever flew on was an American Airlines DC-10! The DC-10 will always have a special place in my heart❤️
I flew many hours from 1988 until 1997 as a crew chief on KC-10s. A lot of memories. I miss them.
Never got to see any KC-10s in the wild when I was in the Navy, even when i was stationed a Pearl Harbor next to Hickam. best I'vebeen able to do for refuelers was a two hour flight in a KC-135 once.
Your first DC-10 Orbis, I worked on It at Mobile Aerospace in the mid 90's ,it helped a lot of people with needed eye surgery, glad I had the opportunity to help with that project! DC-10's were great aircraft!!
Thank you for your efforts helping the Orbis people. They do great work
Thank you!
I think orbis now has an ex fedex md10.
@@BobbyGeneric145 I believe you are correct, from what I have read that sounds right
@@AirlinerHistory i know they gave one to some charity for certain, just can't remember which one.
Gosh did I fly a LOT of hours on the beautiful DC-10, with Northwest, Continental, CP Air, Air New Zealand and United Airlines. I enjoyed all classes of travel - First, Business and Economy. This was a very comfortable and quiet long-haul airliner. I do miss them a lot...
One other of note is FedEx N306FFE. Its claim to fame is flight 705. One FedEx pilot told me that one could still see the dents and dings from the battle that took place. It continued with FedEx and was one of the last three DC-10s that make their last revenue flight Dec. 31, 2023.There was a call to preserve her, but I have no knowledge if that is being planned.
I flew this plane myself many times. There was one single hammer mark left on the panel right above the captain, but that was the only mark from the fight still left. Like all the other planes, it has been sent to the desert. I don't think there are any plans to preserve it, but possibly something's going on that I don't know about.
Still one of the coolest plane ever!
Thank you for sharing. I do miss flying on this beautiful lady. I flew on my former airline's DC-10. Having the DC-10s flying to Hawaii was soo nice flying with United.😊
I was glad I got to fly on the NWA DC-10-30 right before the retirement in 2006. I remember it having 2-4-2 seating and the old projection style screens at the front of the galley for IFE. The next DC-10 that needs to be preserved is N306FE. from Memphis and catching it’s final takeoff, I would like to see it fully preserved somewhere.
Thanks for this. I worked as an engineer for Laker in the early 80’s. It was good to hear one of our DC10’s went on to such great service and is still around in a museum.
Laker is one of my favorite liveries. It works well on any aircraft I see it on
I have many positive memories of flights on the DC-10, including G-BELO (Southern Belle), with Laker and now Orbis. I also flew on DC-10s of United, Trans International, and Air Florida. They were very quiet and comfortable aircraft, even in the high-density 10-abreast configuration. The DC-10 holds a special place in my heart.
My very first flight was on a DC 10 from prestwick airport to Calgary alberta with ward air I was 17 now I’m in my sixtieth year greetings from Scotland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
What a great video...the English ones I worked with at Manchester in the 80/90s many thanks
Thank you very much for covering nzs beautiful zk nzs and i’m very looking forward for it to be preserved by bring our birds home in the recent future❤
Flew Northwest DC10 Gatwick to Minneapolis-Saint Paul in 1997, then on from MSP to Lax on a Northwest 757-300. On the way back, LAX-MSP-LGW both legs were DC10s, so 3 magic flights on the DC10. What a magnificent sound those engines made as all 3 roared into the sky.
We flew on Viasa( former Venezuelan carrier) DC-10 out of CCS to the USA and Europe. Viasa had a fleet of them. Viasa acquired them brand new. Viasa was government owned then sold to Iberia in which Iberia liquidated the airline. Viasa was Venezuela national carrier and the first country in South America to have brand new DC-10.
There is an active DC-10 operated by FED EX at Denver International Airport.
Nope it's an md11
I was a Flight Attendant for an International airline recently retired. I have worked on the DC 10 many times.
Somehow I missed flying on DC-10s. I managed MD-11s and L-1011s, but no DC-10s, which I think is a bummer.
Iberia's DC10 were my honeymoon's planes back in 1996, very happy memories of those days
My dad back in early 1970 was one of the test pilots of the 10. When American received I believe was first one, my dad help deliver it American in Chicago. I remember being a teenager when we picked him up at LAX. I still think one of the prettiest designs today. I have a 2004 MSFS and have several DC-10’s various airlines, also flew one of American Airlines first passenger flight Chicago to LAX (home). Memories thanks sharing. RIP DC-10’s.
Glad to be of service
@@AirlinerHistory we should thank you for this video. Between my dad and DC-10’s program, to my generation I miss this beautiful plane. Thanks
Kc-10 crew chief here, Thanks for covering aircraft 4185! I was part of the demilitarization team for that aircraft to put on static display, back to its original home. Definitely an interesting experience preparing for the worst towing her through rough terrain and into the museum spot.
Right now There are about 11 kc-10s left in service but all 59 will be fully retired from the USAF in September of this year.
Some jets however will be sparred as some of them will be picked up from a refueling contractor to continue flying. 😊
bummer that they're getting retired this early, when KC-135s out still out there flying
@@AirlinerHistory while that’s true however they are starting to show their age and parts supply is getting scarce.
@@ryanbritt9806 I guess I can see since there were fewer built, there would be fewer spares avialable. Sort of like how there are Ford Model Ts still around but entire generations of cars after that one are mostly all gone.
Spent 25 years between the USAF, and two airlines working on every model of DC10 made. KC10's, DC10-10/ -15/-30/-30ER/ and -40. Great airplane, I miss it.
Yes I worked on that NWA 1226 that was in the video, that is now a ground trainer.
I worked on 2 of these preserved DC10's when they were operated by Laker, BCal and Das Air.
very cool
@@AirlinerHistory Also very sad as they were the good days of aviation where you could go to work and do your job and return home stress free and happy.
@@PeterChapman-rg6gr agreed
9M-MAW is one of six -30 units MAS received throughout its DC-10 operation lifetime. I believe this one has a rare 3-3-3 layout in place of the usual 2-5-2.
Too bad I wasn’t old enough to fly in one, I would love to be on the window seat with all three early gen CF6s on TOGA.
I flew on a Mexicana DC10-30 in April of 1982 from LAX to GDL
Northwest DC-10s flying from Honolulu to Minneapolis had a handicapped bathroom that could extend the walls out like a slide on an RV so it could accommodate a wheelchair. Even with the walls not extended, the bathroom was huge and I used it whenever I could.
I did Minneapolis to Honolulu once, but it was in a 747-200, and I don't think I ever flew a Northwest DC-10. that lavatory would have been an interesting site insid the aircraft
Flew on a Monarch DC-10, back in '92 to Cyprus,and back on an A300.
I flew on an American Airlines DC-10 from Honolulu Hawaii to Los Angeles, California.
I was in HNL for three years, I saw Hawaiian's DC-10s flying out of the airport quite frequently, but I never flew them
I saw N220AU at Pima back in January! What a beauty!
Seems like a lot of the times I've done a museum video recently, one of those planes has been at Pima. unfortunately I haven't been anywhere near Tucson since the late 1980's as a teenager.
I flew on monarch DC10 from manchester to florida back in 2000 its the only dc10 they had if i remember, lovely aircraft.
As far as I am aware, the one in Manchester was the only one that flew for Monarch, so defintely unique
Barksdale AFB has a retired KC-10 on display at the Global Power Museum. ( along with a KC-97 and KC-135)
With respect, I think you might be confusing Barksdale with March somehow. I checked Barksdale's website and the overhead on Google Earth, andtheir is neither a KC-97, nor a KC-10 at that museum, while March does have all three.
@@AirlinerHistory Sure enough, they don’t have one, at least not anymore. Maybe I just thought they had one. Maybe they removed it for some reason. I thought it was where the baseball fields currently are just past the 135 on the road. There is a KC-97 parked next to the B-29, though.
As a young new hire flight engineer, 1226NW was my favorite airliner. She was the nicest DC 10-30ER, coming from SwissAir she was kept like brand new. You had to really know everything about the birds back then, 4+ hour long oral exams. Spent many hours flying on her. NWA use her a lot between SEA to AMS to India. Joke “what the difference between a dog and a 2nd officer on the DC 10, dog sleeps under the table!”
I love the DC10
I flew on one from Chicago to LA back in 89. I was only 14 at the time,on my first trip to the states. I remember loving the look of the DC 10 and especially in the American Airlines livery at that time.
CP-2791 is flying around saw it the other day at MIA it’s a Peruvian DC-10
Wow I love this video, I'm former UAL. I'd love to see you work something up on former UA aircraft from our fleet. I still have Equipment #'s in my head from nose gear doors. How about some of those aircraft that were named. IE: Justin Dart
Keep up the good work, we're watching.
Thank you very much. I've tried doing Company specific videos in the past, but this old computer has problems handling the editing I wasdoing on that video. Hopefully I can get a new computer sooner rather than later.
8:55 If I remember right a couple of those Mexicana DC-10's (DC-10-15's) flew with Sun Country for awhile. Sun Country also flew a DC-10-40 leased from Northwest for a year or two but then went back to Northwest.`
Still see MD11’s flying in and out of Chambers Field in Norfolk atleast a couple times a month. Be sad when I stop seeing them
You should make a google maps link with all the preserved airliners
That's actually an interesting idea. I'll have to look into that for the videos that are already done.
I had the opportunity to fly on AOM when I went on my honeymoon to Tahiti back in 1992. I recalled we were calling it the Airline Of Misery as the service was not very good and that the crew was not very focused about safety as there were people blocking the aisles with bags and the flight crew would just step over them.
Wow, that sounds "Fun" :D
There are one or two DC 10s in the west used as Air Fire tankers for forest fire suppression spreading fire retardant phosomax for fire lines
Very true, and I for one would like to see more of them in fire service. Especially in Colorado!
Last I remember, the Stockton, CA airport was home to one of these fire fighting DC10s.
The USAF 309th AMARG aka the boneyard has about 21 KC-10s in there mothball fleet
Dutch Airforce still uses two KC-10 tankers, which are refurbished DC-10's from Martin Air.
I flew on a DC-10 stretch from Seattle to Hong Kong in 1984 of which due to bad weather we had to fly right next the old Soviet Union and were being tracked by Soviet fighter jets to make sure we didn’t enter their airspace.
It was really cool and yet frightening at the same time.
Because of weather rerouting we were running out of fuel and forced to landed in Okinawa, Japan to get fuel then to Hong Kong.
The pilot said not to worry they take credit cards. Talk about a big credit card bill.
Early 80's that close to the USSR and just after the KAL 007 flight shootdown, I'd be nervous too.
Not big into airliners but this was pretty interesting.
Thank you. When I started this channel, I knew I was diving int a very specific niche, so anyone outside that niche that likes these videos is appreciated.
I flew as Captain on the Northwest Airlines DC-10 fleet from 1990 thru 1995.
About 4,000 total hours.
A real pilot aircraft.
I notice that there is no mention of the 3 various models that were produced.
The DC-10-10, the DC-10-30, and the DC-10-40
The DC-10-10 did not have a centerline landing gear.
The DC-10-40 models had Pratt & Whitney engines.
The -10 & -30 models had GE engines.
Northwest eventually had both -30, and -40 models.
JAL and NWA were the only buyers/operators of the -40 model.
I just simply didn't see a need to differentiate each variation to the general viewer. I flew with Northwest a few times in the late 90's and early 2000's but never on a DC-10. Closest I've ever came to a DC-10 was a World Airways MD-11 ( I know, a different beast, even with the similar look) from Norfolk to Kuwait and back 9 months later for a Navy Reserve Deployment.
You forgot about TAB airlines out of Miami which as of 3/24 is still flying a McDonnell Douglas MD-10-30F, the only commercially flying one in the world. It regularly flys into KBKV for maintenance. I have recent photos if you are interested.
well, if it ever goes to a museum or is otherwise preserved, then it will be covered by one of these videos.
@@AirlinerHistoryim actually from miami tho
I saw it on radar
Actually a great aircraft
Never liked it after the cargo door blew off outside Paris.
@@blatherskite9601Hater detected😂
I do know of 4 additional DC-10 aircraft still in the air. Those 4 are aerial firefighting assets. (Company name is Tanker 10) Tankers 910, 911, 912, 914 fly unfortunately near me a lot as here in Kalifornistan we seem to have a lot of wild land fires. I live northeast of Travis AFB. That base still has at least a dozen KC10's flying tanker tracks for many military air assets from southern California to the US/Canada border. I was fortunate enough to fly on a DC10 once back in the 90's. On the exfil flight I was near the back and those 3 engines were loud. Unacceptably loud for an airliner. My flight home was much more comfortable as I sat over the wing root and it was quiet enough to catch some ZZZ's.
N826VV and N824VV, ex JAL McDonnell Douglas DC-10-40I the frames look relatively intact looks like it's slowly picked for spares by omega air refueling at Pinal Air Park
I flew to Hawaii in one of those .
I flew on an American Airlines DC-10 as a young boy in the 70s with my Aunt. We were traveling from Cleveland to Phoenix with a stopover in Dallas/Ft Worth. It was the Dallas to Phoenix leg that involved the DC-10. Having only flown on 727s prior, I remember being amazed at the twin-aisle arrangement in that wide body, which was practically empty that night. This was before Flight 191, so the planes bad rep wasn’t as bad as it was still to become. Nonetheless I got to fly on one only once.
I had a similar experience with goingfrom Delta 727s to the Delta L-1011. I was just awestruck a plane could be that big inside. the geek in me thought of the Tardis for a bit :p
@@AirlinerHistory Concorde and the L-1011 are the two jetliners I wish I could have flown on, so I envy you got to experience a TriStar! I'm still fascinated with the lower deck galley and associated elevators . Would love to turn one equipped that way into a house! Too bad so many have been scrapped.
@@danwilson9530 my records show 17 L-1011s "Preserved". some converted into restaraunts, a couple in museums, the rest are in a boneyard or being used as Ground Trainers. I would say the best one for such a conversion is the one stored at teh National Airliner History Museum in KC, Missouri, unfortuntely that placehas been locked down, since they got into a rent dispute with the airport's operating company
Do one of your piece's on DC-8's, to me the prettiest design of an airliner. The nose down rake, beautiful tail feathers, double diameter hull, wing geometry, and a few still flying. One of United Air Lines, yes it was spelled that way early on, first 8's became a flying eye teaching hospital that I understand is somewhere in China. I've got a couple parts from 8's that bring back memories of yore, and of course a 3 foot or so model used in advertising. JimM
The museum piece DC-8 video is defintely in teh mix for the next month or two, I try to spread out the love to all the manufacturers, but you're right, teh DC-8 is a very pretty plane
Here is another one that I believe is still flying; at least as of April 2022 when I took pictures of it operating out of KTPA: N974VV Omega Aerial Refueling Services McDonnell Douglas DC-10-40
How about doing on of MD-11 which next version of the DC-10
It was even worse!
@@fredferd965Hater detected 😂😂😂
they can say what they wont to about the dc10 but i liked that old girl i miss it as well as the l-1011
I'm more of an L-1011 fan myself, the DC-10/MD-11 family had its fair share of things to like about them.
Agree!
It was best Aircraft wide body best for long haul flights✈️
Agree!
It seemed like it came into the airport awfully slowly. Huge flaps down. Never noticed that with the 747.
They shoulda had a big long engine option for the tail.
Yeah, structural, higher compression exhaust vs higher mass, but still, _zoom._
The short high altitude hot runway type.
Firefighter bonus?
Yay!
I thought you'd appreciate ths one.
Anyone else a tad surprised at the lifespan of these planes? I thought most commercial aircraft enjoyed 10-20 years of service or less
20-25 years seems to be about what most passenger jets do. A second life as a Cargo jet can get you another 10, maybe. I did run into a VIP 727 with the registration of M-STAR with a 40+ year history, but that plane has had far fewer takeoff and landing cycles. But there are airplanes out there that I flew with on one airline and recently my children go to fly on the same plane some 20+ years later.
10- Tanker! Used for fighting wild fires.
It was a decent aircraft after American airlines 96 and that Turkish airlines crash involved with the flawed cargo door from Convair Corporation until FAA made a correction and safety fix
I flew back to the UK from Istanbul a month before the fatal crash over France (possibly in the same plane). It was roomy and comfortable even in economy and, if memory serves quite quiet. In spite of the number of seats in a row, there seemed to be more space than on modern airliners. Did they have more headroom or is that just my imagination?
I imagine that modern airliners have the benefit of experience on how things should be arranged internally, to give the impression that the newer models are bigger.
What about the DC 10’s that are still flying?
There is a DC -10 Tanker still flying around. TKR912
Imagine if airbus made a trijet to replace both the a380 and the a340 with super efficient engines
The only trijet I've seen on Airbus or Boeing websites and/or videos about them have been potential Flying Wing or Blended Wing Body airliners. Apparently teh biggest stumbling block is how to service them in between flights
Are there any stored out in Arizona where a lot of retired airliners are?
Quite a few ex Fed Ex and UPS DC-10s are in various boneyards, but most can’t be visited by tourists, so no point listing them
Fedex and ups still uses them
FedEx and UPS only have MD-11s in service. UPS never had any DC-10s and FedEx retired their last few DC-10s (converted to MD-10s) at the end of 2022.
can you explore Guyana airways and BWIA Airlines from the West Indies
What about the fed ex fleet of DC 10s
Can you do one on the BAe 146 ? great airliner rapidly becoming extinct.
Oddly enough, Wednesday’s video is on a specific BAe-146 that’s still in use today. The next museum video will cover another British airliner
The KC-10s by the Royal Netherlands Air Force has replaced the aircraft with the Airbus A330 MRTT.
Can you make a video like this with MD80/90?
I'd have to look and see how many are preserved of those models. Next museum video is covering a british airliner, and it'll be out (hopefully) in a week.
FED-EX has at least one of these (if not more) at LAX, unless mistaken?
Those are MD-11 's.
I guess the real question is how many will still be around in ten, twenty years. Saw a video from WildeON that shows the last Air New Zealand one in Havana.
Covered that one in this video. It was involved with helping a Cessna 188 pilot find Norfolk Island while flying over the Pacific
@@AirlinerHistorySorry missed it, rewatched it.
@@crushingvanessa3277 No worries. Have a good day
The Air New Zealand DC-10, which is laying in Cuba, is being sourced for a project to be returned to New Zealand to become part of a hertiage fleet.
#BringOurBirdsHome
With luck, that one will get back. hopefully the First Responders that train on that aircraft haven't made it irrecoverable
There is one that flys along with a 747 IN California fighting forest fires
TFlew a TransWorld Airlines to St Louis from the Caribbean in early 90’s and you could smoke in the back portion seating. Yikes
I am just old enough to remember when airliners had smoking and non smoking sections. I can't imagine what the Flight Attendant's lungs looked like after a career in that environment
Nice, what is the next one?
Leaning towards the Vickers VC-10
What about the fire fighting DC-10?
Not listed as it's not "Preserved" as a trainer or a museum piece
Theres still 1 preserved garuda dc-10 at Soekarno Hatta GMF Aeroasia facility, Jakarta
I looked at that one, and I judged it was not being preserved as a ground trainer nor a museum piece, but is just waiting it's turn to be scrapped. Admittedly, a judgment call on my part
I think Omega refueling services operate a ex Dutch airforce KC-10 in Texas.
Where does the KC-10's fresh build or passenger convert?
As far as I am aware there are only two Passenger conversions, and they work for Omega Aerial Refueling services (Two KLM jets), and I don't think a pure KC-10 has been built since 1987
Not gonna mention travis afb? We have like all of the remaining flying ones lol
Those are still active, not preserved aircraft
@@AirlinerHistory ur right
I flew on DC-10'S for Western American United Northwest
Look slike two of those three fell to Delta. I have seen pictures of Western DC-10s, with the big red cheatline still on it with Delta markings
have you done the whisperliner?
Not yet. I try to spread out amongst all the airliner building nations, and not just focus on one. only reason I did two US jets back to back was a request from a subscriber
ok , have you seen the film about or heard the story of the L1011 ghostplane?@@AirlinerHistory
There’s a Ghana Airways DC10 parked on a roundabout at ACC airport, it’s a restaurant now but the food is awful.
It's in the video
I think there are DC-10s that are used as forest fire air tankers, but maybe they're all gone now.
Yes they still use a DC10 for fighting fires I think its called tanker 10
How about the MD10? There few flying
The reason why airliners are getting fewer and fewer in preservation is because even narrow bodies are harder and less practical to store/house as say a 739 or MAX 10 is about the size of a B-52 and they've been so common and "old hat" with the public that preservation interest is extremely low, even for ancient types like TriStars and -10s/11s. The only reason why we even know a 741 is because Boeing bothers to care that much, TriStar is practically extinct. It's like trying to preserve a GE NextGreenGen (just to be clear, a railway diesel locomotive, not a fan engine) - it'll only be on super special circumstances where it'll be preserved.
well said, and thank you
Flew the BCAL DC-10 to & from Nigeria. Nobody flies a widebody "around the UK" - too short ranges.
I did say in and around, around being international routes. I know it's a bit vague
I flew on an Alitalia DC-10 from Gatwick to Pisa on a 70s holiday charter flight….. and in the late 90s an Alitalia MD-80 same route !
Appears to have a nose similar to early Douglas airliners
I know Lufthansa had dc10 also
That was the Max of the 70s.
Always there is a DC-10 hater 😂
How could they not show FEDEX?
Not preserved Museum pieces or ground trainers
I flew Continental Sydney to Fiji & rtn they had a bar at the mid section and I have to say it made it a very enjoyable flight indeed it was a disappointment being told to return to seats for landing(thats a 1st) , I can't imagine anything ever like that on board again. Also did Auckland to Sydney about 6 times on Air New Zealand as a kid that was always fun. Shame they all look like they're pushed out of the same mold now. Most people wouldn't have a clue what they're flying in now days.
I'm not a "Bar" person, but that does sound fun. And you are absolutely right, all the airliners look teh same these days. I look forward to Flying wing or what is referred to as Blended Wing Body airliners, just ot break the monotony
I like a bar in flight too, however my fav was on United's 747 upstairs lounge. Nothing beats flying into Honolulu looking down at the island from the lounge.
At FedEx
So, you counted scrapped. aircraft, fire trainers, and teaching aircraft. What about fed ex? Air tankers? and Omega? There is also one with a laser on the left side. (Don't know where that one went). But really a very poor video.
Those aircraft still in use are counted as Preserved,as a Preserved aircraft is no longer in service.