WHY Baxter Stockman isn't SUPERFLY in TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: MUTANT MAYHEM...

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

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  • @TheTrueChip
    @TheTrueChip Год назад +1333

    There is a saying that goes-
    Hero speaking:the world hurt me, I’m going to make sure no one else gets hurt
    Villain speaking:The world hurt me, I’m going to hurt it back

  • @scottletourneau4571
    @scottletourneau4571 Год назад +788

    Concept artist: “Couldn’t we just remove the sweater?”
    Director: “NO! They’re different people now!!!”

    • @youtubewatcher6124
      @youtubewatcher6124 Год назад +12

      It's hard to make changes in animations too

    • @WaldoBagelTopper
      @WaldoBagelTopper 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@youtubewatcher6124Ok, but they did go back and reanimate sonic the hedgehog for a whole film.

  • @ghostoffire2648
    @ghostoffire2648 Год назад +389

    Ice cube = superfly is badass

    • @final_boss1715
      @final_boss1715 Год назад

      Ice cube is loser. hes a dumb rapper with terrible acting talent!!!

    • @TheWorldGoverment
      @TheWorldGoverment 11 месяцев назад +3

      “Six in the mornin police at my door” baddas one liner

    • @final_boss1715
      @final_boss1715 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheWorldGoverment it just a line you idiot. getting all happy for one line.😂

    • @ghostoffire2648
      @ghostoffire2648 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheWorldGoverment yep

    • @Marvelfanatic3658
      @Marvelfanatic3658 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheWorldGovermentcringe

  • @PoshGoldfish45
    @PoshGoldfish45 Год назад +153

    Turtles in TMNT 2013 show:hey, its Dexter Spackman
    Baxter Stockman: it's BAXTER STOCKMAN!!!

    • @braydenchannell8610
      @braydenchannell8610 9 месяцев назад +2

      Um actually it's 2012 TMNT that confused his name but yeah that's funny 🤣🤣

  • @peculiarproductions8066
    @peculiarproductions8066 Год назад +377

    I also like the contrast with their fathers

  • @sentientkoffee972
    @sentientkoffee972 Год назад +65

    Plus, this makes Superfly's hatred towards humans a lot more justified

  • @SPIKE-s-mx
    @SPIKE-s-mx Год назад +4

    I have a collectible paper thing of the OG TMNT, and with Stockman, He literally has fly wings, and a fly face, yet he keeps his human body. I don’t know how that’s possible
    SuperFly also said in the movie, “ I inherited my dad’s mind for science”, giving some evidence that SuperFly is Stockman, but a mutant fly. They also have the same hairdo, black curly hair on mostly the back of their heads.

  • @papyrusthegreat457
    @papyrusthegreat457 Год назад +64

    I actually think they did it for a different reason. In the original TMNT, mutagen could turn people into mutants. But they changed it, Splinter didn’t start as a human in this Universe, he was a Rat to begin with.
    They changed the way mutagen works in Mutant Mayhem and had to keep the idea consistent to only working on Animals.

    • @JustAPersonWhoIsHere
      @JustAPersonWhoIsHere Год назад +14

      This does actually make sense

    • @RandomBlackGamer
      @RandomBlackGamer Год назад +10

      That concept wasn't in the original TMNT. It was in the cartoons which came after the comics. This movie is closer to the Mirage comics .

    • @tellmemoreplease868
      @tellmemoreplease868 11 месяцев назад +1

      It makes sense if you think about it.

    • @DXV-q6r
      @DXV-q6r 2 месяца назад

      So I know im like a year late but no one’s gonna talk abt randomblackplayer being here?

  • @Kj99x
    @Kj99x Год назад +142

    This movie style looks a lot like spiderverse

  • @Hex9876yugioh
    @Hex9876yugioh Год назад +33

    The 2002 series turned Baxtor into a Brain robot

  • @noahmueller1468
    @noahmueller1468 Год назад +1

    At least someone decided to go ahead and make a new character in this day and age, there might just be hope yet

  • @shaneokeley825
    @shaneokeley825 Год назад +14

    It's like 1990s and 2003 Splinter being serpatie from Hamato Yoshi

    • @frankmills6226
      @frankmills6226 Год назад +4

      Yeah, but they got that from the original Mirage comics, which were before the '87 cartoon.

    • @shaneokeley825
      @shaneokeley825 Год назад

      @@frankmills6226 Even so even though it's better being a mutant Fly man than becoming a cyborg and eventually becoming a brain in a glass tube

  • @jkhdfhkjsdfkhjsdf
    @jkhdfhkjsdfkhjsdf Год назад +38

    I was a fly who dreamed he was a man and loved it. But the dream has ended, and the fly is waking up.

  • @CamLeighGamer
    @CamLeighGamer Год назад +1

    He is my favorite character cuz bro has strength and flies and also becomes a monster

  • @jasonwells8745
    @jasonwells8745 Год назад +181

    It would've been a lot better if it was Stockman. That way the evil team would have had more of a counterpart to Splinter. Plus Baxter is an amazing character that deserves a hell of a lot better than what they did to him in this.

    • @Note-DS
      @Note-DS Год назад +28

      Baxter Stockman isnt dead. He"ll come back.

    • @noctisastrum7495
      @noctisastrum7495 Год назад +21

      He's not dead he could still be alive, maybe he's a disembodied brain like hiw he was in 2003

    • @jasonwells8745
      @jasonwells8745 Год назад +9

      @@noctisastrum7495 I'm pretty sure the people making it said he was dead in one of those behind the scenes vids, but who knows they could totally change their mind by the time it takes to get to the sequel.

    • @heregoesfranklin5962
      @heregoesfranklin5962 Год назад +25

      But it worked better because it wasn’t stockman. It’s literally… Superfly became a mutant and raised a group.
      Splinter became a mutant and raised another.
      That’s where the strength in comparison lied. For Baxter to have been Superfly, Splinter would have had to be human to keep the comparison parallel

    • @jasonwells8745
      @jasonwells8745 Год назад +6

      @@heregoesfranklin5962 That doesn't explain how it's better in any way. Superfly and all the other mutants are the same age so it makes no seance why Superfly would raise them over anyone else. The could have given him more attributes besides just the hair to make him more like Stockman then at least some intelligence could transfer over and show why he's the leader but now hes just the leader because he's more angry than anyone else. It's that kind of logic that gets you bebop and Rocksteady living with everyone in the end.

  • @Nazo-kage
    @Nazo-kage Год назад +1

    There’s also the little detail that Baxter stockman isn’t guaranteed to be a fly creature, depending on the Continuity that you want to use.
    In the 2000 version Baxter Stockman never becomes a flying man. Instead, he starts losing body part after body part because of failing the shredder, and starts replacing them with mechanical limbs until eventually he shows the brain in a jar.
    So there’s more than one design path for him apparently.

    • @hackerninjaexe5791
      @hackerninjaexe5791 10 месяцев назад

      And the mirage comics it follows the same thing
      And the idw comics he didn’t became a fly either but still uses mutant flys as his army

  • @chillihog1543
    @chillihog1543 Год назад +42

    U know what would be interesting. Spoilers btw
    So yall know Splinter is just born rat and not a human (Hamato Yoshi). What if for the sequel, we get to see Hamato Yoshi. Either as a cameo or could be the trainer for the turtles along with Splinter so that they can defend themselves from Shedder n the Foot. Reason why I said trainer is because let's be honest, if this Shedder is like 2003 n 2012 version in terms of combat, then the turtles n Splinter stand no chance against him. I could be wrong but still it would be kinda cool if they done a 2003 take of splitting Splinter and Hamato to separate beings, but only this time Hamato meets a mutant rat tho

    • @alfredojacome2027
      @alfredojacome2027 Год назад +4

      I like that theory but I think there should be a plot twist like in the 2003 show

    • @chillihog1543
      @chillihog1543 Год назад +4

      @@alfredojacome2027 True plus I fear that not many fan would like the idea of Splinter basically being the student. Maybe they could find a balance of the turtles appreciating Hamato's teachings but also appreciate Splinter for being a good father and both Splinter n Hamato learn something from each other. Idk how it work but still I kinda want to see Hamato being the important part of the story. Also imagine Karai joins in for the sequel. U think the writers should stick with Karai being the daughter of Shedder or go with the 2012 route

    • @alfredojacome2027
      @alfredojacome2027 Год назад +6

      @@chillihog1543 probably the daughter of shredder also in Japan the last name and first name are switched so it would be Yoshi.

    • @thepiggyempire1195
      @thepiggyempire1195 Год назад +6

      Or they'll do what they did in the IDW comic series where the turtles and splinter are reincarnated from Hamato Yoshi and his sons

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios Год назад +10

      So basically, you want Hamato Yoshi to be alive, so he could train the Ninja Turtles in order to defeat The Shredder. That sounds like an interesting idea.

  • @ricecola9609
    @ricecola9609 Год назад

    Ngl I like it, making a separate character to better fit the concept of the villian you want instead of just removing and basically turning that same character into a totally unrecognizable person

  • @lssjbroly_YT
    @lssjbroly_YT Год назад +1

    I would’ve preferred something closer to canon, but for younger and newer audiences the vibe was alright

  • @Buzzlightyear-j1o
    @Buzzlightyear-j1o Год назад +1

    🎵I know I'm superfly🎵

  • @Beartallica86
    @Beartallica86 4 месяца назад

    This TMNT movie was a TRIP! I had never been this entertained to a turtles movie since the first one!

  • @EllahRah
    @EllahRah 3 месяца назад

    In the Nintendo Switch game Shredders revenge,when Supafly shows up, his name is Baxter stockman

  • @dragoniccrab
    @dragoniccrab Год назад +2

    I also heard that supposedly it had something to do with "The Fly" movie

  • @HankingMySchrader
    @HankingMySchrader Год назад

    Second time in a tmnt movie a main villain has been changed to a different character to just make another character. First Eric Sacks in the 2014 movie who was supposed to be the shredder but got changed to being shredder’s protege,now superfly being changed from being Baxter stockman to being his pet fly mutated.

  • @ajayrulezzz
    @ajayrulezzz Год назад

    Im also glad they brought back retro-mutagen

  • @zeusthefox1585
    @zeusthefox1585 2 месяца назад

    So that's why Super fly's toy is like that...I remember seeing it and assumed it was Stockman.

  • @TheRealCodeBlack
    @TheRealCodeBlack Год назад +8

    Baxter not turning into a fly and being more of a Lex Luthor-style supervillain is also more in line with his original character anyway.

  • @LeonardoHamato
    @LeonardoHamato Год назад

    I'm glad they did that, it makes Baxter much more sympathetic with his few moments of screen time and his lines
    I've never been able to feel too sympathetic for him in the past but with this one, I get it, making your own family of misfits cause you're not accepted by alot of society is the foundation of the communities I've joined or friendgroups I've helped build over the years
    Also, when I finally found the people I really get along with, I get seperated from them somehow, me and my online bestfriend have never met irl and may never cause it's expensive to travel overseas and my other bestfriend has been my friend since day one of college and since then we've completed that course and have went our seperate ways on the next courses we've picked out, same college but we've now got to set time to meet up outside of classes

  • @mikeax24
    @mikeax24 Год назад

    This whole movie seems like a bizzare ass crack enduced halucination

  • @JonSkellington
    @JonSkellington Год назад

    They kept the toy design. I bought it for my friend the other day

  • @thatrandomredengine9430
    @thatrandomredengine9430 Год назад +10

    So the reason Baxter isn’t Superfly is because the film maker were too lazy to wanna take the 2 minute to explain his backstory? Even though he explained all in the opening of the movie, how he was an outcast and stuff.
    Think about it, We got cheated out of Baxter being the main villain of the movie.
    Can’t wait to see how they botch Shredder in the sequel! What is he NOT Oroku saki? Not even a Krang like in the 2003 series?

    • @kwayneboy1524
      @kwayneboy1524 Год назад +6

      I dont think it was out of laziness but just done to draw a paralle between the heroes and the villain.

  • @shub125
    @shub125 Год назад

    I like the idea that superfly is his own character, hope we see him in future turtles shows/movies as Baxter's henchmen/son

  • @pattik_
    @pattik_ Год назад +2

    honestly makes more sense if only animals can become mutated

  • @jacksynquiroz9168
    @jacksynquiroz9168 Год назад

    He was my favourite part of the film he was really terrifying to the point we’re a little kid was crying in the theatre

  • @shonuff9655
    @shonuff9655 Год назад

    The movie was incredible and frankly they weren't bad guys they were victims of circumstance. Superfly was great because he had motivation.

  • @donathan2933
    @donathan2933 Год назад

    Superfly is basically an extension of Baxter Stockman anyways. And I like him better than any fly version of Stockman

  • @Jackseyez
    @Jackseyez Год назад +7

    A clip came out before the film released revealing superfly is baxter’s son instead,? That explains the backstory in the beginning of the film

    • @lankerator
      @lankerator Год назад +2

      Probably not his real dad but since Baxter Stockman made Superfly, he just thinks Baxter's his father

    • @jasonwells8745
      @jasonwells8745 Год назад

      If u look at it that way Baxter is all there fathers no more Superfly's then all the other mutants including the turtles.

  • @collgoff
    @collgoff Год назад +17

    I couldn’t agree more!
    But I think they should do that more often .

  • @DarkknightChris
    @DarkknightChris Год назад

    Maybe the next movie has Baxter who survived and rebuilt as a cyborg while his "son" is standing next to him. There we have the best of both worlds.

  • @jaretalbaugh7034
    @jaretalbaugh7034 Год назад +1

    How could it be confusing sence baker been in tmnt from the start

  • @amolina4891
    @amolina4891 Год назад

    I dug it. Baxter is definitely showing up in the sequel.

  • @mrcoolme9734
    @mrcoolme9734 Год назад

    If they kept the Baxter fly story it could’ve been
    Mutants wanting to be like humans
    And a human wanting to be a mutant

  • @xxmension04xx47
    @xxmension04xx47 Год назад

    also I think making him a mutated version of Baxter Stockman would require them to explain a few of the other mutants, because some of them are mutant humans in the other movies, shows & comics...

  • @Eficiente_VSB
    @Eficiente_VSB Год назад

    For the better, I love and pity Superfly, and his dad is super tragic, yet his dream came true w/o him or his son to see it.

  • @cindydott452
    @cindydott452 Год назад +1

    So they assumed that viewers would be too darn stupid to get it.

  • @Project-zu4xh
    @Project-zu4xh Год назад

    They couldve said the mutagen infected his mind and made him more irrational and crazy. I dont mind them being two characters but it would've made sense for Baxter to become Superfly

  • @jorodmar69
    @jorodmar69 Год назад +28

    Ok question i saw this movie last week and i asked myself are super fly and the mutants the followed him cannon to TMNT? This movie is amazing

    • @DToTheB
      @DToTheB Год назад +12

      they're all mutants from previous versions of the tmnt, but those specific versions are only canon to anything in the mutant mayhem universe

    • @scottletourneau4571
      @scottletourneau4571 Год назад +4

      Yep! All of them are cannon!

    • @anotherrandomguy8871
      @anotherrandomguy8871 Год назад +1

      I used to asked the same with the mutants in the 2013 show since I wasn’t the biggest TMNT fan but still watched that show (tho I never completed it) and the old 90s movies. I’m still not 100% sure if some mutants in that show are pre-existing ones or if mutants like Spiderbites were made up by the show…wonder what ever happened to that guy btw.

    • @CharginChuck
      @CharginChuck Год назад

      They're canon to the new incarnation of the series. They already greenlit a sequel and tv series for Mutant Mayhem before the movie even came out, and given how successful the movie was, it's likely that we'll be seeing this version of the TMNT for a good while. which I'm thrilled about, I loved the movie and I think this new version of the TMNT has a lot of potential to go to some new places with the franchise.

  • @voidishprattles4319
    @voidishprattles4319 Год назад

    Tbf if i was mutated into a fucking fly id probably be upset.

  • @richardperaza5083
    @richardperaza5083 Год назад +1

    It goes without saying
    You and I are not so different
    I’m not like you you’re a murderer
    Well to each his own
    I chose my path you chose the way of the hero
    And that found you amusing for a while the people of this city
    But the one thing people love more is to see a hero fail, fall, and die trying
    In spite of everything you’ve done for them eventually they will hate you
    Why Bother

  • @brodaline2124
    @brodaline2124 Год назад

    If he was Baxter still they easily could’ve written in the backstory it’s literally the start of the movie

  • @brandonharris7516
    @brandonharris7516 Год назад +1

    I know I found out my self and if it was stockman then Ice cube would made him sound silly

  • @mileslugo6430
    @mileslugo6430 Год назад

    Great change

  • @TheStorrman
    @TheStorrman Год назад

    When the trailer first came out I thought it was Baxter Stockman lol

  • @supeguy
    @supeguy Год назад

    I think that in the spin-off TV show they're gonna make Baxter stockman superfly again because in the movie it was never said that baxter was dead

  • @paulinayexannihtorres1709
    @paulinayexannihtorres1709 3 месяца назад

    The Movie Reminds Me Legend Of The Guardians The Owls Of Ga'Hoole

  • @gaminganimators7000
    @gaminganimators7000 Год назад

    So the Mimic is made of nanomachines because that's the only way it shapeshifting makes sense (even though nanomachines makes even less sense in the 80s)

  • @kenzieblossom6974
    @kenzieblossom6974 Год назад +1

    You would think with technology improving so would movies.

  • @EthanSteward-z6s
    @EthanSteward-z6s 6 месяцев назад

    Also in the TMNT mutant mayhem game super fly is called Baxter

  • @Predakronus
    @Predakronus Год назад

    They could've made him another insect.

  • @Gabriel-qq5zn
    @Gabriel-qq5zn Год назад

    Man I love ice cube

  • @ianwhitfield1696
    @ianwhitfield1696 Год назад

    Superfly wasn’t a villain…. He was a victim

  • @samuraiforever9120
    @samuraiforever9120 Год назад

    it would have been an interesting twist like judge doon being a toon.

  • @jeggsonvohees2201
    @jeggsonvohees2201 Год назад

    Just to be clear, the MM Turtles are unrepentant thieves who never try to atone for their crimes.

    • @TheDalinkwent
      @TheDalinkwent Год назад +1

      Wasn't a fan of that either.

    • @jeggsonvohees2201
      @jeggsonvohees2201 Год назад

      @TheDalinkwent They could have worked it into the story that while they do steal, they protect the neighborhood from other crime as a form of paying them back.

  • @youtubewatcher6124
    @youtubewatcher6124 Год назад

    Best decision ever

  • @Maniac180
    @Maniac180 Год назад +1

    Supadupa fly

  • @Hater1average
    @Hater1average Год назад

    Could have made Baxter a horse fly that is slightly bigger than the normal average fly but again i don't know what specific of flies. That Baxter change into as it the same kind that super fly is.

  • @deltadxd
    @deltadxd Год назад

    I love this movie

  • @failure4
    @failure4 Год назад

    Hey guys look, I think his name is Baxter stockman

  • @williamgalindo2899
    @williamgalindo2899 19 дней назад

    i hope super fly gets redeem in the sequel

  • @17jacoyne
    @17jacoyne Год назад +1

    I still wonder what happened to Baxter in this movie tho

  • @guilhermeveiga8993
    @guilhermeveiga8993 Год назад +2

    I knew it

  • @G1Grimlock94
    @G1Grimlock94 Год назад +7

    Reboot version

  • @Mr.HootieHooRDK
    @Mr.HootieHooRDK Год назад

    What you really meant to say was they did it so they could sell more toys

  • @ElSir000
    @ElSir000 Год назад

    Baxter looks like yoda

  • @Gabe_DJL
    @Gabe_DJL Год назад +1

    Is that why he has his fathers hair?

  • @deltaxvlol100
    @deltaxvlol100 Год назад +8

    Are you also the IYKYK channel? Cause th e voice sounded so familiar

  • @brandonharris7516
    @brandonharris7516 Год назад +1

    I just saw it today

  • @muslim-boss9_11
    @muslim-boss9_11 Год назад

    I wish baxster was superfly

  • @gwenmloveskpopandmore
    @gwenmloveskpopandmore 8 месяцев назад

    Well they wanted it to be more like the comics

  • @rayyansg2244
    @rayyansg2244 Год назад

    I prefer them as one character

  • @MrFoFlat
    @MrFoFlat Год назад

    Was that Mando Gecko I just seen?

  • @natemakesbeats2138
    @natemakesbeats2138 Год назад +1

    First humpty dumpy fat april oneal
    Now super fly and baxter are 2 different people ...this movie dosent sound like a good time with all these retconns

  • @rachelvieira397
    @rachelvieira397 Год назад +2

    0/10 movie. Reasons: Superfly didn’t use the N-word ONCE

  • @MadailinBurnhope
    @MadailinBurnhope Год назад +7

    Baxter Stockman isn't the fly in the original comics

    • @alfredojacome2027
      @alfredojacome2027 Год назад +8

      Nobody said he was

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios Год назад +4

      I don’t even think he was mutated in the original comic

    • @MadailinBurnhope
      @MadailinBurnhope Год назад +6

      @alfredojacome2027 the video says "Baxter Stockman, who, in the classic TMNT lore, turns into a mutant fly" - which is at best a misleading statement, at worst incorrect; he was only a fly in the 80s cartoon and onward, not in the classic comic lore

    • @alfredojacome2027
      @alfredojacome2027 Год назад +4

      @@MadailinBurnhope what I consider classic TMNT lore would be 1987 show and the comics would be original lore

    • @MadailinBurnhope
      @MadailinBurnhope Год назад +1

      @alfredojacome2027 that's a weird individual distinction you're making, which you're entitled to do

  • @soggywafflenut
    @soggywafflenut Год назад

    ray filet 🗣️🗣️

  • @nicoleweintraub9710
    @nicoleweintraub9710 Год назад +5

    I hate the character design of April

  • @MrProfDrHoff
    @MrProfDrHoff Год назад

    A separate reason I view the split as a good thing is it stops the unfortunate tradition of one of the series only recurring black characters getting turned into a disgusting bug.
    Still seems every Baxter always has terrible luck though, something to continue working on.

  • @christophercervantes5753
    @christophercervantes5753 Год назад

    That’s not Baxter Stockman!!!!??😱😱😱

  • @Omega11044
    @Omega11044 Год назад

    They almost made Gus Fring the villain

  • @peralta8525
    @peralta8525 Год назад +3

    I think the reason is in this universe, the mutagen doesn't affect humans. Splinter, Bebop, Rocksteady, and lots of others were originally humans in the comics. if humans could be affected by the mutagen, it would completely change the intended effects of Superfly's plan. also, if Superlfly was originally a human, he would likely understand humans' fear of those different from them. Just a take.

  • @robertriojas2639
    @robertriojas2639 Год назад

    Supafly was better than any portrayal Baxter had as a fly 💯

    • @donathan2933
      @donathan2933 Год назад

      I honestly couldn’t agree more

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ Год назад +1

    "Guess what? Things change!"
    Yeah for the worse.

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 5 месяцев назад

    But baxter stockman is a villain in the comics and classic lore

  • @cinemacias
    @cinemacias Год назад

    Just sad they killed Stockman

  • @korova_mesto
    @korova_mesto Год назад

    Another example of Hollywood think their audience is stupid and wouldn’t get simple concepts so they dumb it down. 🤦🏻

  • @Giacomo_112
    @Giacomo_112 Год назад

    Ngl i miss og April

  • @cyklonus1
    @cyklonus1 4 месяца назад

    But they kept the pants and the hair.

  • @jameswelch4879
    @jameswelch4879 Год назад

    And why was the fly black tho 💀

  • @octop1747
    @octop1747 10 месяцев назад

    is that a JOJO REFERENCE???!!!

  • @AnnahLedwaba-x4e
    @AnnahLedwaba-x4e 20 дней назад

    rayfalaayyyyy