How To Fix A Crosman Trigger, The Do's and Dont's, Step by Step
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Just read that Kenny passed away. Today is the first time I watched any of his videos. Quite a few in fact very informative. I just wanted to thank his family for keeping this RUclips channel going. God bless you and I'm sorry for your loss.
I am 17 and I just got a nice air rifle for the holidays, this was the first comment. I hope everyone here and in the future is doing well. Rest in piece Kenny. God bless your soul.
Performed this mod on my new Benjamin Titan GP, using the smaller bearing. Trigger went from long and heavy to perfect. You have earned my thanks and the enmity of the cowbird community.
: )
Kenny I went into our local Hobby Store where I live in Norman, OK. I ask for a 5x8x2.5mm bearing and the attendant told me that I was the fifth person in the last few days that came in asking for this bearing size. He ask me why the bearing was in such demand and I told him that I was using it to rework a Crosman trigger and he said that he ask the person before me that same thing and he had the same answer. I guess your video has been seen by many and a lot of folks in Oklahoma like Crosman rifles.
I bought the bearings and I'm waiting for my Crosman Optimus to be delivered and will let your video guide me through making the trigger better.
Thank you,
I watching this video in Ukraine!
It's amazing!!!
I know every gun is a little different, but I have done two of the bearing mods on different air rifles and have found the bearing alone to be insufficient. I have achieved a much more refined result by…
1. Adding the RC bearing.
2. LEAVING the trigger return spring in place but WEAKENING it.
3. Replacing the worthless factory-installed “adjustment” screw with a longer one.
With the bearing mod alone, you lose the 2-stage trigger but the overall length of trigger pull is greatly reduced. By also adding a longer adjustment screw, I further reduce the trigger pull as much as I possibly can without making the gun unsafe. The result is a very refined, short, crisp pull with 2-stage functionality restored.
If you’re a kid, stick with the bushing/bearing alone and remove the return spring and adjustment screw. If you have confidence that you know what you’re doing, go all the way with it.
Just did this modification on a Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk in .22. Took about 10 minutes. Test firing the trigger has gone from approx 8 lbs with a lot of creep/stacking to 2.5 lbs and the safety works. I couldn't get a bump fire either. Bought the 5x8x2.5mm bearing for a $1.00 at our local RC shop. Thanks for the clear instructions.
Those bearings come only in a 2- pack now, here, and the pair are $8! So I tried making an 8 mm donut of PVC. Couldn't make the O.D. concentric, so bought the bearings. It improved the pull a bit, but the Red Tail trigger still has a 1st stage some of the time, and no first stage some of the time. I believe most of the improvement made was simply turning the adjust screw in one turn, making the pull lighter. Don't know what's causing the 1st stage switching.
My trigger mechanism looks like the video one, except my trigger blade is solid steel, not stamped/curved steel, which doesn't effect anything.
The best damn fix I've seen. Quick and easy!! The screw and bearing fix turned my difficult shooter into a tack driver in just 15 minutes. I realize the manufacturer must protect themselves from liability but the factory trigger was absolutely brutal. Thank you so much and keep up the good work !
I just completed this mod on a new Crosman Fire NP with the bearing and what a difference. I only fired about 20 shots and noticed accuracy is improved. My local RC shop had the bearing for a whole dollar. Thanks for the video.
Do you still use Crosman fire np just did it love that mod anything else you do also what scope should I get ?
Thank you for giving a demo on how each setup works. Everyone else who put out a video on this subject failed to show that part. Huge help
Outstanding video. I did the mod on my Benjamin Titan XS in about fifteen minutes. The safety is still operating fine, and I gave it a few good bumps to make sure there was no misfires. It worked great. I'm hitting a dime sized target over the fifty cent spread I was laying down before.
Your video was easy to follow, and very clear.
Thanks for taking the time to help all of us.
Great video. Replaced my trigger spring with the bearing in less than 10 minutes, including removing the stock....I did spent 30 minutes looking over the complete mechanism to see how it works. Amazing the difference....and very sensitive now. Thanks
Kenny you saved me again I was installing a CharliedeTuna CBR trigger in my Benjamin NP2 when little parts went flying. Thanks to your close up videography I was able to figure out how to put it back together. Many thanks and keep up the great videos.
Installed the bearing last night. The trigger is now perfect! A lot less travel and significantly smoother pull
Alexis Corral how do u work the safety what’s safety and what’s fire I’m very confused got one yesterday
I tried this fix on my old metal trigger gamo, which I had already put an 8mm adjustment screw in. And then removed the first stage tension spring. And omg, what a difference! This gun went from a bear to shoot to a darn near bench rest trigger. Thank you so much Kenny!
You da man Kenny. You ain't gettin' older, you gettin' better .... just like me. Mod worked great on a Titan NP that I had bought as a first gun for my grandson. I had reservations about giving the little guy a gun with a 10 lb trigger pull so I took a chance on your modification. Now I got a 2 lb trigger that's smooth as butter and no reservations about letting that short human being have a bunch of fun. Thanks Kenny
ever since I came across your trigger fix video I have done this to all of my Crossman rifles and anything else I can do this too, love the difference in the trigger, thanks Kenny.
first thank you to your family for keeping these videos up.
yesterday I bought the bearing and installed it as Ken instructed -
it worked ok,
** now I know why he saved that spring and pin as it made going back soo much easier. :D
So I chose going back to the longer 3mm 10mm .50 pitch adjustment screw
as I prefer the feel of the 2 stage trigger.
knowing by the "feel" of that "wall" just before a leetle smooth pressure applied to let it fire just right [for me]
so I have the bearing to try on another project. :)
very nice fix and adjustment
awhile back I bought and installed a 3mm 10mm machine screw -
followed Ken's adjustment instructions -
put screw in just deep enough so it didnt latch/catch or engage sear when breaking over the barrel -
then backed off 1/4 turn [it worked well as I felt the wall, but too hair trigger for me] :o
after a few trial adjustments i backed it off around a turn or so - until it felt good to me, just as I like it. :)
your results will vary as to what you like.
i feel a very smooth stage until the trigger is up against the wall of the firing stage.
a little steady pressure. . . I feel it let go and I am happy. :)
*yes I did the slap test, the bump test and the safety works fine. [always best to be safe- avoids those holes in places you off target] :O
I like the feel and will be ok right here with my consistent groups of pellet holes over lapping each other.
Thanks for the great vid. I done My RC bearing fix today on my Titan. It took all about 5 minutes and it was done, plus the Safety Still works! I managed to get quarter sized groups at 25 yards with the stock trigger and the crappy stock scope, I cant wait to see what it will do now! I got a BSA Sweet 17 on order now for the Titan. Than you again for a great video!
I used to own my own gun shop and love workin on them but I never worked on any air guns. That being said; I just put a 5x9x3 and the 3x10 mm screw in my new Benjamin and I gotta tell you I am thoroughly impressed. Mine is now pulling 1/4 to 1/2 " and so much lighter! Thank you so much for the very clear and concise video. I had to purchase the bearings and adjustment screws in 4 packs so I will be donating those and your knowledge to anyone that I run into so that they can also enjoy theirs!!
Just did the bearing fix for my Benjamin xl 725 and what a world of difference! Shoots or releases at about the same time as my hatsan sniper 125 vortex! Chao and very simple fix. Excellent!
Thanks for the video Sir, I used it to work the trigger on my Crossman Blackout II. I just used 2 washers instead of the bearing and greatly improved my trigger pull!! Great video!!
I never comment on youtube videos but this was worth it, I did the 8mm bearing with fantastic results, trigger is now awesome thank you!
I just did this mod (RC bearing) and shot 3 bullseye in a row when i was testing with a Shockwave. It is a big difference, thanks Kenny, wherever you are!
Thanks, Kenny, the video was sometimes fuzzy, but your clear and concise instruction more than made up for it. I'm going shopping for screws tomorrow. I'll be trying spring removal and a longer adjustment screw on my Benjamin Titan GP. I didn't realize how bad the trigger was until I got my Benji Trail NP2. It has the sweetest trigger on it of any gun I own. Breaking glass!
Kenny, I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS your videos will live on in UTUBE history . GOD bless you R .I.P.
Just finished this mod on my NP Fire - impressive results!
2 things that cripple Benjamin Rifles, 1, the trigger and 2, the included scope.
Solve those 2 problems and you have an amazing shooting rifle.
Just carried out the mod and it's utterly transformed my Remington Pest Controller (same style trigger). Paid £2.40 in UK for the 8 x 5 x 2.5 mm bearing. All went well, the pivot is a tight fit passing through the bearing, but stick with it, I turned the bearing round and it fitted more easily (go figure !).
So grateful that Kenny (in this case) posted so we could all learn and cure the problem. RIP
I watched your video and did this on my crossman tr77. It helped tremendously. Trigger pull is about 1 1/2 lb.
I found the little wheels from the audio cassette fits perfectly there; just need to sand it a little thinner and drill the middle hold bigger. Now my triggers is really predictable and grouping is sooo much better.
Great video actually after seeing it I just the one of my Benjamin Prowler and I love the way it came out I still have the Justice screw
Just did the 2.5mm bearing mod on a Crosman Phantom NP and the difference is amazing. This is THE video to use when fixing a Crosman trigger.
The trigger on my Phantom was terrible. It was long, gritty, and the pull-weight uneven throughout the pull. Now she has a light and smooth 1/4" pull. If you feel the trigger is too light you can always put the trigger spring back in. The bearing really shortens and smooths out the trigger pull even with the spring left in.
A thorough cleaning and lubing is always good practice of course while you have the gun apart.
Excellent stuff, Kenny! Best how-to I've seen on the Crosman trigger.
I recommend that you test an Avanti Champion 499B. It's one of the simple pleasures in life. I really enjoy mine.
As always Kenny you put together a great informative video! Thanks
5/25/19 I just did the bearing mod, 100% smoother pull I am going to play around with the stock adjusting screw to see if i can fine tune it to what i like but yes the Bearing VERY Noticeable improvement
Great video, very simple fix for the Crosman trigger.
I just followed everything you said from A-Z and my Benjamin Trail NP XL .22 not only hit the target but it now hits the bullseye on every shot long as your holding the gun the way you should. Thanks for the tips.👍🏽
Did you install the 5x8x2.5 rc bearing?
Thank you very much. I actually used two split washers that were close to 8mm and they worked great. Trigger travel went from 1/4 foot to 1/4 inch (slight exaggeration but not by much!) My rifle is kinda Heinz 57, it was in a Fury box, barrel says it's a BPNP17X, the action says Optimus, and the stock looks like a Phantom. Must have been a weird day on the production line! Shoots great now!
A quick update I went to Hobby Town this afternoon and picked up a 4pack of the 5X8X2.5mm bearing, after following the video and Kenny's advice and cautions I installed the fix in less than 10 min. and tomorrow I will try it out... And yes to those wondering the bearing fit the F4 trigger perfectly, following the video and taking time in certain areas to make sure you don't lose parts that are quite small I think most folks can do this mod with no problem.
amazing fix, nice and crisp.
Just used this video to fix my Benjamin Rushmore (I think its pretty much a NP). Instantly changed the dynamics of this rifle!!!! I used some 5mm washers bt it seems to have worked just fine. Thanks so much for this video!
Ken, did this mod to my TR77 a while ago and what a difference! Thank you for doing this.
Im waiting for my bearing to arrive should be here in a few days..
I havent taken apart my stock yet but is it only the 2 screws or are there more to get at the trigger
@@Raven4122.... Depends on which model of airgun you have... most have either 3 or 4... two towards the front of the stock and either one or two at the trigger guard.... it's not "rocket science", but... if you can't figure out how to do something simple, like the stock removal... then perhaps you shouldn't be attempting any trigger work.
By the way, if you were directing your question to Kenny (this website).... you will be waiting for a Long time... Kenny past away from cancer Aug.30th last year (2018). His family has very graciously decided to keep Kenny's website up, so that thousands of airgun enthusiasts can still benefit from all the great videos he did on airguns.
I just did the 5x8x2.5 bearing fix on a Benjamin NP Prowler Model BPNP82 and it is an awesome fix. Highly recommended!! My scope is bearable so far.
RIP Very sorry for your loss, thank you for letting up the videos i am actually using this one to see how to do this upgrade to my Crossman TR77NPS.. Even though he has passed his knowledge is shared by millions..
Thanks for the video. Just modified the trigger on my Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk. Works like a charm. The trigger pull is now perfect. Thanks again!
The trigger was so bad on my Nitro Venom Dusk I decided to give this a try. First I checked the trigger pull poundage stock. It was 6 lbs 1 oz .. average of 3 using Lyman. The length of pull was roughly 7/8" before it broke. I followed the instructions and used the 5mm 8mm 2.5mm RC bearing. I left the adjustment screw alone.
The results were amazing. The trigger pull weight is now 3 lbs 5 oz .. average of 3. The length of pull is now roughly 3/8" before it breaks. The trigger is no where near a hair trigger as it feels about perfect. The safety functions fine. There is some take up or slop but it is negligible. Overall I'm very pleased. A big thank you !
Thanks SOOOOO Much, I have got about 3M rounds through my NP Trail.22 and always had to carefully pull & stop just before 2nd stage to take up all that long travel, then go for the shot. Man is it nice, short & light now . My safety works just fine, and all for a $3.50 bearing, WOW !!
I just did this and what a difference it made!! Cheers for the video
I watched this video BEFORE I just bought a Crosman F4 NP from Wal-Mart. Great instructional video! I had a $5 4-pack of precision bearings on the way from Amazon (no R/C shop, I live in a rural area) before I even bought the rifle. After modifying, the trigger pull and creep is night-and-day. Thank you for such a straightforward video.
What size bearing did you use?
@@quinnjones2886 5x8x2.5mm RC bearings
Great job, as usual, Kenny. I always learn something from your videos!
Hello, good and peace to all!!tell me people who did the upgrade.Everything is clear except for one thing when at the end of the video he unscrews the bolt that needs to be lengthened by 8 mm, as I understood, and puts a spring on it that took off the trigger so it turns out, whereas in other videos just a bolt is replaced, but there is not a word about the thread.Please explain
R.I P. Kenny . My favorite RUclips guy
A very big hello from Greece!
Among other air rifles, I also own a BAM 19 (AKA Xisico, SMK, XS, etc) and although I really like it and also think it is a great value for money, I have been trying to improve the trigger.
Luckily, I stumbled upon your your video, which was extremely helpful!!!
I have already done the screw replacement, and - Oh man!!! - it is so much better!
I will later try the bearing change.
Just wrote this comment to thank you very much.
All the best
Night day difference.ordered bearing and did mine on my Benjamin trail thankyou.gonna try it out tommorrow
Crosman Prowler fixed with the 5x8x2.5MM bearing. Worked for me. Left the screw in for now. Thanks
Fantastic video, thank you. Just bought a Crossman Vantage NP (.22), bought the Traxxas (brand) #5114 (5x8x2.5mm) 2 pack of bearings off Amazon ($4) and installed watching your video, took 3 minutes (I'm slow). It's an extremely easy mod. Trigger is now a true single stage and i haven't put a gauge on it yet but it compares to the ProComp i have on my 10/22 Ruger so i'd say it's 3lbs. It's pretty light, with almost no creep or takeup and it will take some practice but who doesn't love practice?
RIP Kenny and thank you for all of your giving nature and excellent personality...muah!!!
Great advice, I'm going to try this on my benjamin trail np.
Great video. I bought a 5x8x2.5mm for my new Crosman Fury ll Blackout. 177 hope its works just as good as your video shows
Thanks for the video. I went to my lathe and chucked up a 1/2" round piece of 6061-T6 Aluminum and turned a 3 x 9 mill bushing. I wanted to see how it would work before going and buying a bearing.
The trigger draw was greatly reduced and without the little trigger spring, I now have an excellent trigger. I really don't need to buy a bearing now and with a tiny adjustment at the trigger screw, the rifle is as sweet as can be. Thank you so much for this and all your videos.
NotSoDumb - What actual difference does removing the trigger spring do?? Pros n cons...
@@chilledandcool3918 takes all tension off trigger but leaves a lot of slack in trigger play.......the spring rests on the pin in trigger housing, so what is the bearing doing?...nothing, just makes pin not have any wobbling slack in trigger....the bearing really serves no purpose other than this...taking the spring out just makes it alot easier to pull trigger back after tightning down on the trigger screw..a longer screw makes the 2 stage grooves on trigger plate easier to set trigger, and have less of pull to set trigger for hairy shots....but if ya get i too sensitive, you might discharge your air rifle by accident just by cocking the rifle and setting barrel in place.....safety is there for a reason, be byaself when ya setting the trigger this touchy...might shoot something or someone!...cheers
@@redblue40rc33 - Thanx, man🙂👍🏾. Ur explanation reminds me of a defective one I had before. When trigger was adjusted tightly, it would fire just from cocking n loading. Factory-recalled later.
Worked exactly as described. Thank you.
Great video, Kenny. Thanks for the info
You are a very talented man. Thank you very much. What a simple and ingenious solution. I did it in five minutes.
Thanks Sr...
Now i can take that crossman tr77 and fix it once and for all...
Very thorough and precise explanation.
You have so many great videos hopefully day you can figure how to really I just the trigger on a Gamo plastic trigger
nice information done it and my groups reduced by more than one half. The 5x9x3 worked wonders on my gun!! Thanks for the tip!!! Christopher M. Austin shohola Pa
This worked really well with the barring although like you said the trigger is short but not hair trigger and safety works on Benjamin NP XL 1500
Thanks!
As always Kenny, great useful information.
I know this video is several years old. Even so people are still using the RC bearing. But there is a new and much cheaper way. By using the tube off of a ballpoint pen. Just cut to size.I've watched several of your videos now and they are very informative and detailed thank you very much appreciated.
Thank's for the fix brother.
Don't know why but went out to shoot the air rifle today and the play in the trigger was gone, this trigger mod is incredible Thank you!
thanks alot. worked wonders on my optimus .22
Nice mod! I am going to try that on my Crossman tighten GP. The trigger on that is very, very long
Improve my trigger and accuracy, used the 5x8x2.5mm economy bearing, thanks 👍🏻
Posthumous thanks for that video, sir. My thoughts goes to the family and friends.
Did the author die?
@@jeffstanley4593 , yes, Kenny died of cancer. We'll see him in the next age, Ezekiel 37: 1 - , and
Revelation 20: 5A, a parenthetical statement (And the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished).
The Great Sage '.. God bless kenny... You are missed greatly by the Air rifle world .. these videos you did are great for beginners like me to reference . #YOUARETHEMAN
My first one I over disassembled and it took almost two hours to remember through trial-and-error how to put it back together thank you didn't make that mistake this time
Did the mod and like most other people agree, it's a well worth effort. Anybody want one each of the required parts? Had to buy two each, have one pair left over, speak - if you want them. Thanks for the instructions.
Great video ! Many Thanks
Great video with lots of nice info!
ok I read down through comments and got my answer, I cant WAIT to do this! the Gun is great trigger pull STINKS! I just have a 3-9 Ncstar scope on my TR77NPS..
I was going to try the 3mm x 10mm screw fix, but do not want the pull to be any heavier than it already is...so I will just order the 5x8x2.5 bearing and do it that way, which appears to give the best results! Thanks again for all of the very detailed information Kenny, AGW.
It will not get heavier, just shorter.
well first thank you to his family for keeping him up an going. after we are gone its good to know our mind still gets passed on to others 😁 an 2 I'm going to try this. so keep helping us from beyond. an again his family thank you keep it going for him. he is proud of you for it. maybe here is a idea have a few guest in his shop throw a video out now an then
Brilliant teacher~ Thank you
I did this tonight for both mine and dads Crossman F4. WORLDS of difference. THanks Kenny. Rip man
What did the change do? Was it just more smooth?
@@jamess8340 Smoother, and easier to pull. It feels a bit weird at first, but in comparison it's 10x better to shoot now. I managed to get two bearings for 4 bucks at my local RC shop. Well worth it. If you do exactly what he shows in video, you will be good to go. I would say if you're interested, go for it, you won't regret it
This made one heck of an improvement, much better groups with my .22Titan.
Big help - Thank You! Night and day difference
My Crosman Optimus was hanging. I opened it, and found that pulling the trigger releases the lever that stops the spring release, but there was a small lip that hooked and held. A touch with a file or a stone to take this down, and it released every time.
I was shooting 3" steel plates at 20 yards before seeing this video with my NV. I removed the spring behind the trigger now my groups on paper at 20 yards have shrunk to under 1", im waiting on my 5×8×2.5mm rc bearing hopefully I will be hitting bullseye repetitively. Thank you
Made the trigger on my Nitro Venom Dusk a lot better!! Thanks!
5x8mm bearing works great!
Hair trigger is awesome
Is adding the 8 or 9mm bearing I read about for pre-loading the sear to take up engagement and lessen the creep?
WOW this is sweet... It puts pellets at 25 yards in the same hole. Did this on my Trail NP .22 what a hot rod now.
This gentleman knows what he is talking about. He's been around guns for awhile, you can tell. I like the screw method, easy, gets it pretty much where I want it but I may remove the spring also.
I hope no one removes the wrong c-clips, they will be in for a bad time getting that stuff together. I know because I have done it in the past. You know what they say though, hard lessons are usually the best taught lessons if you survive.
I striped down the hole trigger unit easy to do smoothed out all the touching surfaces on the sears, they where rougher than any trigger i had done before. Anyway i got them flat and even and polished to a mirror finish, i then did the bearing mod put a longer pull lengh grubscrew in a lubed it up its now in a different league i can get the trigger pull down to 1 1/2 pound but i set it at 2 1/2 pound it was to light. Its safe and wont go of if banged. I am going to do another but i am going to make new sears that fit better and that are flawless.
The NP Trail Pistol's trigger is similar or the same mechanism as the NP Trail XL1100? I noted the XL1100 video, detailed and well done.
This is handy thanks going to do it on my tr 77 because the trigger pull is rubbish on it.
Came here because of your request on the new video but I'm really interested now, do you think this applies for 2240 pistol?
Thank you for the great mod video. simple fix to enhance a weapon the way it should have come from the factory..
I hope the bearing mod still works. got the 2017 crosman stealth shot today. and the trigger looks nothing like this. solid piece instead of the hollow backside trigger, less rounded design. short trigger pull before I've done anything with the adjustment screw. noticable second stage but a little to hard.
When you put the bearing in do you still feel two stages of the trigger?
Works really well even on the new Crosman Copperhead. i did not do the trigger screw mod , it wasnt nescessary Rip. Kenny