yeah I know phone bad but for small bands that only play near their country and don't film their shows, having someone film the show and upload it to RUclips is basically the only way fans can see them play live. I can't afford to fly from Asia to Sweden and then fly back just to see Air Raid play live
I mean, the safest spot of a tornado is either miles and miles away or in the eye, although there would be some sort of impending doom type of feelings ig
That’s because Marty put his life in that solo, man. He included some Enka music element he became familiarized with when he used to live in Hawaii. I can tell as a Japanese and I appreciate his legacy after so many years. That solo phrase was literally his soul.
No Megadeth-head can help to watch in detail the Tornado solo played by other than Marty... and this one I liked. Respected the main lines and put his own style. United Abominations is one of the best Megadeth albums.
El mejor recital de mi vida, la primera vez que veia a megadeth en vivo, iba a ser la ultima pero cuando mustaine dijo que seguian tocando despues de coming home y de llorar sobre el escenario me volo la cabeza ...☠️ Megadeth y Argentina 🇦🇷🤘🤘
cradle of filth used to be spanning across the 90s, they ate a guitarist or 2, but it was never all that noticable it was even a new guitarist and replaced each other very gracefully, not sure about today :D sure, switching drummers had way more impact
@@YobanesCR saw both bands last year at a festival, same dude was playing lead guitar for both. Had a similar guitar, dress, and relative body size as this dude. Even look similar from the glances of his face I get
thats very great best masterpiece megadeth rust in peace classic album legendary of the world. I love great best band favorite megadeth. thank you guys megadeth the true heavy trash metal forever 🤘🎸
"Tornado Of Souls" This morning I made the call The one that ends it all Hanging up I wanted to cry But dammit this well's gone dry Not for the money, not for the fame Not for the power, just no more games But, now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado I can't replace the lies that let a thousand days go No more living trapped inside In her way I'll surely die In the eye of the tornado, blow me away You'll grow to loathe my name You'll hate me just the same You won't need your breath And soon you'll meet your death Not from the years, not from the use Not from the tears, just self-abuse But, now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado I can't replace the lies that let a thousand days go No more living trapped inside In her way I'll surely die In the eye of the tornado, blow me away Who's to say what's for me to say Who's to say what's for me to be Who's to say what's for me to do Cause a big nothing it'll be for me The land of opportunity The golden chance for me My future looks so bright Now, I think I've seen the light Can't say what's on my mind Can't do what I really feel In this bed I made for me Is where I sleep, I really feel I warn you of the fate, proven true too late Your tongue twists perverse, come drink now of this curse And now I fill your brain, I spin you round again My poison fills your head as I tuck you into bed You feel my fingertips, you won't forget my lips You'll feel my cold breath; it's the kiss of death
Mr. Dave Mustain...I really REALLY hope you SEE and READ this. I hadn't seen a Megadeth concert since the Youthinasia Tour...Went to all of your concerts prior to that too. Here in Houston TX. Your concert at the Woodlands last year....Well, it SUCKED!!! I spent OVER a Grand for 2 tickets for supposedly "V.I.P." tickets and 4th row seating CENTER STAGE. I brought my daughter who was 17 at the time and had NEVER been to a "HEAVY Metal" Concert. I wanted her to EXPERIENCE what "I" experienced when I was her age going to a Megadeth concert. With the money I paid, I thought we'd get to meet you, get an autograph etc. But NOOOO!!! My $1200 tickets got me some VERY mediocre free food of which I couldn't take out of the building and 2, TWO free bar drinks which I also couldn't take out of the building. The concert itself and your performance was WAYYY under par Sir. I understand you just lost your Bassist, but that's still no excuse. At the end of the concert, you didn't even do NOT SINGLE ONE encore song, NOT ONE. You was DONE, walked off the stage and that was that. I was embarrassed. I had played you up to my daughter as being a KICKASS band and KICKASS performer. Even SHE commented at the end...."IS that it?" For $1200 for 2 """V.I.P.""" tickets and a piss pore performance, I felt like YOU and MEGADETH completely let me down. Damned if I go to another concert of yours Sir. And $16 for ONE Megadeth BEER??? REALLY??? I thought your songs had meaning and truth to them. Created from your HEART. But I see, now I'm my experienced age, YOU are no different than the Distopia. You contribute to it. SHAME on you Sir. Shame!!!
Dave is one of the best front men of all time. Very skilled at what he does and super cool looking 😎🤘 the only guy to dress for church in a metal band and pull it off like a boss
Dave's voice is not as good as it used to be, but his guitar playing is still phenomenal. My 2 favorite bands are Van Halen and Megadeth. I can't decide which is the best. Depends on what style I'm in the mood for. And thanks to Metallica for kicking Dave out, or there wouldn't be Megadeth. Love Metallica, great band, but Megadeth is better. Dave is the master. By the way, I'm 60.
Esta mañana hice la llamada La que acaba con todo Cuando colgué quería llorar Pero maldita sea, este pozo se secó No es por la plata No es por la fama No es por el poder Es que no aguanto más juegos Pero ahora estoy a salvo En el ojo del Tornado No puedo reemplazar las mentiras Que dejan pasar mil días No más vivir atrapado En un camino en el que seguramente moriré En el ojo del tornado Vuélenme de un sople Llegarás a odiar mi nombre Me odiarás de todos modos No necesitarás tu aliento Y pronto encontrarás tu muerte No es por los años No es por el uso No es por las lágrimas Solo abusar de uno mismo Pero ahora estoy a salvo En el ojo del tornado No puedo reemplazar las mentiras Que dejan pasar mil días No más vivir atrapado En un camino en el que seguramente moriré En el ojo del tornado Vuélame de un sople Quién puede juzgar? Lo que yo tengo que decir Quién puede juzgar? Lo que yo tengo que respirar Quién puede juzgar? Lo que yo tengo que hacer Porque una gran nada será para mí! La tierra de las oportunidades La oportunidad de oro para mí Mi futuro parece tan brillante Ahora creo que he visto la luz No puedo decir lo que tengo en mente No puedo hacer lo que realmente siento En esta cama que hice para mi Es donde duermo, realmente siento Te advierto del destino Probado fiel demasiado tarde Tu lengua se tuerce perversa Ven a beber ahora de esta maldición Y ahora lleno tu cerebro Te doy vueltas de nuevo Mi veneno llena tu cabeza Mientras te meto en la cama Sientes mis dedos No olvidarás mis labios Sentirás mi aliento frío Es el beso de la muerte.
This is the best crowd I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Argentina the best country! I wish i was born in Argentina. Cheers from Between Rivers, Argentina
I don't understand, Why did they release this just 2 weeks ago? The current line up is kicking ass! And yeah, the solo in this song is kind of a big deal... That didn't really cut the mustard.
This morning I made the call The one that ends it all Hanging up, I wanted to cry But dammit, this well's gone dry Not for the money, not for the fame Not for the power, just no more games But now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado I can't replace the lies, that let a thousand days go No more living trapped inside In her way I'll surely die In the eye of the tornado, blow me away You'll grow to loathe my name You'll hate me just the same You won't need your breath And soon you'll meet your death Not from the years, not from the use Not from the tears, just self abuse But now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado I can't replace the lies, that let a thousand days go No more living trapped inside In her way I'll surely die In the eye of the tornado, blow me away Who's to say, what's for me to say Who's to say, what's for me to breath Who's to say, what's for me to do Cause a big nothing it'll be for me The land of opportunity The golden chance for me My future looks so bright Now I think I've seen the light Can't say what's on my mind Can't do what I really feel In this bed I made for me Is where I sleep, I really feel I warn you of the fate Proven true to late Your tongue twist perverse Come drink now of this curse And now I fill your brain I spin you round again My poison fills your head As I tuck you into bed You feel my fingertips You won't forget my lips You'll feel my cold breath It's the kiss of death
i was going to see megadeth at my states state fair but unfortunately megadeth had to cancel because of funding issues 3 months before the show. i swear in my state no one ever comes up here. although i’m hoping i can fly out somewhere to see them somewhere else
I always wonder by Dave's ability of singing and playing same time such a difficult songs
He’s notoriously talented for this. Those aren’t some easy riffs and he then learned to sing on top of it!
Singing is a bit of a stretch, but yeah
@@squibblez2517 you’re right, it’s more like he learned to have more control of his voice and not just vomit in his microphone!
@@squibblez2517 tbh impressive how he sounds like a squeaky toy
wait, he sings?
I don't want to sound like the old generation. But something about no phone in the air is a heartening sight
We all want to bring back 00s. Okay, most of us, i think
Man I’m only 20 and I agree with you so much
yeah I know phone bad but for small bands that only play near their country and don't film their shows, having someone film the show and upload it to RUclips is basically the only way fans can see them play live. I can't afford to fly from Asia to Sweden and then fly back just to see Air Raid play live
@@nochillplayce i want it back
@@oyc7946 No, that does not work
One of the greatest Metal songs.
Period.
rust in peace has its greatest....never cared for this song...u ignnorant cabron..
Hmm, whom the bell tolls, al so one of the great meyal songs
@@someguynamedtoni8314 lol
Oh FOR SURE
Greatest Megadeth's song for sure
Being this age and still rock is incredible.
Megadeth Forever!
This is an old video bro.... although they do kick-ass now too...!!
This is 2005 concert, but they still kick asses
as a metallica fan i have multiple hate comments to say but I have decided not to say them
@@Lord_Eirikur same
@@Lord_Eirikur well just get lost then if your a hater
Only Dave would feel safe in the eye of a tornado...what an absolute legend
I mean, the safest spot of a tornado is either miles and miles away or in the eye, although there would be some sort of impending doom type of feelings ig
This is one of the most underrated Megadeth lineups. Shawn and Glen were really good
Yeah I agree, and honestly, I actually enjoyed United Abominations.
The Drover brothers
True masters of thrash metal! Hail to the Megadeth!
you mean Aguante?
slayer is better
@@ikon4255 No. Just different. Friedman riffs were on another level
@@ikon4255slayer have 1/4 of megadeths skill
Keep dreaming lol
Wish I could play 5 percent of their music 😂
Dawn Patrol is extremely easy on guitar ;)
She wolf, peace sells, symphony of destruction works too!
This album taught me how to play guitar back in the early 90’s🤘
All you need is 1 year, good teacher, will to act, discipline and of course patience
You can! They have a lot of super easy ones. She-wolf is one. It really helped me learn to play better when I had just started learning.
Glen was the only guitarist in Megadeth who had the balls to make that solo his own
Greatest song by him ever
Soo many great songs by Mustaine
Youre lucky, they all sound the same.
@@hanswurscht327 Haha good joke
A tout le mounde
@@hanswurscht327 that's something a tone deaf illiterate would say. It's okay you'd be more comfortable with disco
That solo wasn’t bad but man, you can really tell when it’s Marty playing-he plays this solo with so much more soul
That’s because Marty put his life in that solo, man. He included some Enka music element he became familiarized with when he used to live in Hawaii. I can tell as a Japanese and I appreciate his legacy after so many years. That solo phrase was literally his soul.
and he plays it with ease
Kiko is an excellent guitar Player, but Marty is other level.
That is not Kiko
@@DOHCGit won't be, that's from 18 years ago lol
Glen Drover is a great guitar player! Very technical! I really like the album he recorded with the band (United Abominations)!
I saw them 2 years later, in a club amongst 1500 other metalheads. Best show I've ever been to.
No Megadeth-head can help to watch in detail the Tornado solo played by other than Marty... and this one I liked. Respected the main lines and put his own style. United Abominations is one of the best Megadeth albums.
he had nothing on marty tho
One of the top 5 megadeth songs , everytime I hear this takes me back when megadeth had killer shirts n posters not like today !
Megadeth y Argentina = Amor Absoluto!
Aguante Megadeth!!
My favorite live version of this song,just an amazing performance 🤟👹
Damn , this sounds awesome.. I play this every morning when I go to work.. Mr. Dave Mustaine.. forever 37 year fan man. Thank you so much
Dave is truly an inspiration.
최고의 밴드 메가데스!!!🤟🤟
🤘!!! not 🤟💞
I understood what you meant though.
🌪 No Structure Is Safe When @megadeth Plays Tornado Of Souls! 🌪🤟😳
😂
El mejor recital de mi vida, la primera vez que veia a megadeth en vivo, iba a ser la ultima pero cuando mustaine dijo que seguian tocando despues de coming home y de llorar sobre el escenario me volo la cabeza ...☠️ Megadeth y Argentina 🇦🇷🤘🤘
Megadeth is a revolving door of fantastic players. What other band lineup is always good?
Death.
Pantera
@@vlados417 Pantera had 1 lineup that everyone remembers or cares about.
Dream theater
cradle of filth used to be spanning across the 90s, they ate a guitarist or 2, but it was never all that noticable it was even a new guitarist and replaced each other very gracefully, not sure about today :D
sure, switching drummers had way more impact
MEGADETH. Please come back again to Argentina! Please please!!!
sound so sweet !! love the guitar works. inspirational.
It's cool to see Dave playing an ESP back from when he was affiliated with them.
Yo estuve ahí... una de mis mejores noches!
OMG pero este concierto es GLORIOSO!!! necesitamos más videos AGUANDE MEGADETH!!!!
*¿TODAVÍA NO VISTE EL DVD DE ÉSTE CONCIERTO?*
For those not reading description, this is from 2005.
Fukkin' amazing! Came here looking for this. Thanks for posting. KILLER!
Great perfomance as always!
el mejor recital que asistí en mi vida!aguante megadeth!!!
I like this band. forever!
What a genial tempo and flow of this one!!
It’s nice to hear them live recently in standard tuning
You think it's cuz of Dave's vocals that they've down tuned? I agree tho, this is so crunchy in standard tuning.
That's old live "That One Night: Live In Buenos Aires 2005"
Where? haha. They're playing one whole step down for many years lately. This video show is from 2005.
@@WotansKarl of course, like all the bands when get old
Now they play tuned in D standard, this is an old vid from 05
Wow…just wow! That was peak performance Megadeth!
thank you for the upload ... just created a playlist ..... miss the brothers
Glen Drover, what a fascinating guitarist He is. What a shame He didn't stay long with Megadeth. He deserves to be more acknowledged.
Is that who’s currently playing with Anthrax and Shadows Fall or am I mistaken?
Kemana kiko?
@@Huddle_House56 I don't know man
@@YobanesCR saw both bands last year at a festival, same dude was playing lead guitar for both. Had a similar guitar, dress, and relative body size as this dude. Even look similar from the glances of his face I get
100% right.
Dave is fuckin genius❤
Still my favorite band. Still my favorite song. Still the best metal band. Still have my long hair too. Love Megadeth.
thats very great best masterpiece megadeth rust in peace classic album legendary of the world. I love great best band favorite megadeth. thank you guys megadeth the true heavy trash metal forever 🤘🎸
One of their best albums 🤘RIP🤘
"Tornado Of Souls"
This morning I made the call
The one that ends it all
Hanging up I wanted to cry
But dammit this well's gone dry
Not for the money, not for the fame
Not for the power, just no more games
But, now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado
I can't replace the lies that let a thousand days go
No more living trapped inside
In her way I'll surely die
In the eye of the tornado, blow me away
You'll grow to loathe my name
You'll hate me just the same
You won't need your breath
And soon you'll meet your death
Not from the years, not from the use
Not from the tears, just self-abuse
But, now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado
I can't replace the lies that let a thousand days go
No more living trapped inside
In her way I'll surely die
In the eye of the tornado, blow me away
Who's to say what's for me to say
Who's to say what's for me to be
Who's to say what's for me to do
Cause a big nothing it'll be for me
The land of opportunity
The golden chance for me
My future looks so bright
Now, I think I've seen the light
Can't say what's on my mind
Can't do what I really feel
In this bed I made for me
Is where I sleep, I really feel
I warn you of the fate, proven true too late
Your tongue twists perverse, come drink now of this curse
And now I fill your brain, I spin you round again
My poison fills your head as I tuck you into bed
You feel my fingertips, you won't forget my lips
You'll feel my cold breath; it's the kiss of death
What a masterpiece of music
Smoking a big ass blunt jamming out
🇦🇷🇦🇷❤❤ AGUANTE MEGADETH ❤❤🇦🇷🇦🇷
Aguanita Paguanita Doggerita Susserita Bananita Hamburgerita Aguaguanita Naguanita Saguanita
@@leonardothememegamer4994 😊vzcc
Please upload full video every concert megadeth. ❤
Best Band of all time Hand's Down ,ROCK ON,
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No one can play this solo like Mary does. It's just insane.
Mr. Dave Mustain...I really REALLY hope you SEE and READ this.
I hadn't seen a Megadeth concert since the Youthinasia Tour...Went to all of your concerts prior to that too.
Here in Houston TX. Your concert at the Woodlands last year....Well, it SUCKED!!! I spent OVER a Grand for 2 tickets for supposedly "V.I.P." tickets and 4th row seating CENTER STAGE.
I brought my daughter who was 17 at the time and had NEVER been to a "HEAVY Metal" Concert.
I wanted her to EXPERIENCE what "I" experienced when I was her age going to a Megadeth concert.
With the money I paid, I thought we'd get to meet you, get an autograph etc. But NOOOO!!! My $1200 tickets got me some VERY mediocre free food of which I couldn't take out of the building and 2, TWO free bar drinks which I also couldn't take out of the building.
The concert itself and your performance was WAYYY under par Sir. I understand you just lost your Bassist, but that's still no excuse.
At the end of the concert, you didn't even do NOT SINGLE ONE encore song, NOT ONE. You was DONE, walked off the stage and that was that.
I was embarrassed. I had played you up to my daughter as being a KICKASS band and KICKASS performer.
Even SHE commented at the end...."IS that it?"
For $1200 for 2 """V.I.P.""" tickets and a piss pore performance, I felt like YOU and MEGADETH completely let me down.
Damned if I go to another concert of yours Sir.
And $16 for ONE Megadeth BEER??? REALLY???
I thought your songs had meaning and truth to them. Created from your HEART. But I see, now I'm my experienced age, YOU are no different than the Distopia. You contribute to it.
SHAME on you Sir. Shame!!!
Perfecto,lo que se espera de MEGADETH
Fuaa tremendo aguante Megadeth!!
Dave is one of the best front men of all time. Very skilled at what he does and super cool looking 😎🤘 the only guy to dress for church in a metal band and pull it off like a boss
Another upload! This is amazing!
Glen did a nice attempt but he had issues covering all of Marty's solos but in return he plays Chris Poland's solos almost perfectly.
Dave's voice is not as good as it used to be, but his guitar playing is still phenomenal. My 2 favorite bands are Van Halen and Megadeth. I can't decide which is the best. Depends on what style I'm in the mood for. And thanks to Metallica for kicking Dave out, or there wouldn't be Megadeth. Love Metallica, great band, but Megadeth is better. Dave is the master. By the way, I'm 60.
The most personal style solo ! Love that !
MEGADETH!! ❤
This was like 10 years ago maybe even longer. Why not post a recent video with the current lineup?
Just by listening to the audience chanting the riff I know that it is Argentina, the best audience in the world.
Same, or bellaruse
Txs megadeth for uploading this video filmed in Argentina🤘. MegadetH rules motherfuckers!!!!
Megadeth please come to Brazil!!! 🇧🇷🤘💕
2:48 Dave: Are you ready?
3:00 Dave: Ok,good luck
MY FAVOURITE MEGADETH SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder when this footage was filmed. It looks like it was pre-Dirk Verbeuren...
🇦🇷🔥 aguante Megadeth 🤟😎
One of the best live versions i've ever heard.
Love this song!!!!
Did the tempo of the song go down when the solo started?
AMO EL METAL, ES MI PASION
Pleeeeeease post older shows in this video quallity. Love this
Lo que siempre esperé, brutalidad del poder de Megadeth. 🖤
Banger after banger after banger
Megadeth forever
He made the solo much easier than it originally was
siempre excelentes guitarristas
God those vocals 😖😖😖😖😖😖
I saw a clip of Tornado of Souls, with some really crazy aircraft. Where can I watch?
Esta mañana hice la llamada
La que acaba con todo
Cuando colgué quería llorar
Pero maldita sea, este pozo se secó
No es por la plata
No es por la fama
No es por el poder
Es que no aguanto más juegos
Pero ahora estoy a salvo
En el ojo del Tornado
No puedo reemplazar las mentiras
Que dejan pasar mil días
No más vivir atrapado
En un camino en el que seguramente moriré
En el ojo del tornado
Vuélenme de un sople
Llegarás a odiar mi nombre
Me odiarás de todos modos
No necesitarás tu aliento
Y pronto encontrarás tu muerte
No es por los años
No es por el uso
No es por las lágrimas
Solo abusar de uno mismo
Pero ahora estoy a salvo
En el ojo del tornado
No puedo reemplazar las mentiras
Que dejan pasar mil días
No más vivir atrapado
En un camino en el que seguramente moriré
En el ojo del tornado
Vuélame de un sople
Quién puede juzgar?
Lo que yo tengo que decir
Quién puede juzgar?
Lo que yo tengo que respirar
Quién puede juzgar?
Lo que yo tengo que hacer
Porque una gran nada será para mí!
La tierra de las oportunidades
La oportunidad de oro para mí
Mi futuro parece tan brillante
Ahora creo que he visto la luz
No puedo decir lo que tengo en mente
No puedo hacer lo que realmente siento
En esta cama que hice para mi
Es donde duermo, realmente siento
Te advierto del destino
Probado fiel demasiado tarde
Tu lengua se tuerce perversa
Ven a beber ahora de esta maldición
Y ahora lleno tu cerebro
Te doy vueltas de nuevo
Mi veneno llena tu cabeza
Mientras te meto en la cama
Sientes mis dedos
No olvidarás mis labios
Sentirás mi aliento frío
Es el beso de la muerte.
Not the 🤘 the world deserves,
The 🤘 the world needs!
La mejor banda del mundo mundial de heavy metal...!
My goodness! Indeed the soul twists like a tornado after death
Hay david porque tuviste que entrar a la era de redes sociales????
thats so fcking good man
This is the best crowd I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Argentina the best country! I wish i was born in Argentina.
Cheers from Between Rivers, Argentina
Friedman OWNS...
Eu não sabia que o Glen toca tão bem😮
이곡은. 나의 숨은 야성을 깨우지.
Dave's voice now sounds even more unique than ever. It's amazing how he is able to sing after beating throat cancer
This show is years before the cancer
I like how no one can tell he's much younger here
This is one of the hardest songs in the world to sing and play at the same time.
I don't understand, Why did they release this just 2 weeks ago?
The current line up is kicking ass!
And yeah, the solo in this song is kind of a big deal...
That didn't really cut the mustard.
Where??? Yes, in Argentina 🇦🇷 🤘🤘🤘
Fantastici....i migliori,Dave è un 😈😈😈😈della🎸🎸
This morning I made the call
The one that ends it all
Hanging up, I wanted to cry
But dammit, this well's gone dry
Not for the money, not for the fame
Not for the power, just no more games
But now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado
I can't replace the lies, that let a thousand days go
No more living trapped inside
In her way I'll surely die
In the eye of the tornado, blow me away
You'll grow to loathe my name
You'll hate me just the same
You won't need your breath
And soon you'll meet your death
Not from the years, not from the use
Not from the tears, just self abuse
But now I'm safe in the eye of the tornado
I can't replace the lies, that let a thousand days go
No more living trapped inside
In her way I'll surely die
In the eye of the tornado, blow me away
Who's to say, what's for me to say
Who's to say, what's for me to breath
Who's to say, what's for me to do
Cause a big nothing it'll be for me
The land of opportunity
The golden chance for me
My future looks so bright
Now I think I've seen the light
Can't say what's on my mind
Can't do what I really feel
In this bed I made for me
Is where I sleep, I really feel
I warn you of the fate
Proven true to late
Your tongue twist perverse
Come drink now of this curse
And now I fill your brain
I spin you round again
My poison fills your head
As I tuck you into bed
You feel my fingertips
You won't forget my lips
You'll feel my cold breath
It's the kiss of death
did any body else smile when they saw Dave playing his ESP
My smile would be bigger if he played his jackson tho
@@ondrejklimes6605. Old school Megadeth
was waiting for this one in the spam uploads lmfao
WTF ?... Audio sounds like a garage band recorded this in 1980 on a cassette recorder.
The show is almost 20 years old, sit down and enjoy the energy of the public, aguante Argentina cagon
God
Long live,TRUE Rock. !!!
i was going to see megadeth at my states state fair but unfortunately megadeth had to cancel because of funding issues 3 months before the show. i swear in my state no one ever comes up here. although i’m hoping i can fly out somewhere to see them somewhere else