It's been long enough that now I'm unsure if I ever played the original or this sequel. Maybe I just remember the Rule 34 version, "Humper the Reckoning" which takes place in Asscroft
Absolutely loved this game in my childhood, remember it as clear as yesterday playing with my best friend on his ps2 and I always played as Deuce the biker
If I'm remembering correctly G4 ran a "making of" special for Wayward and Redeemer, both games were actually made at the same time. This ofcourse was when G4 was a thing, and when they actually aired kickass gaming content, goddamn I feel old now.
I loved how these games brought all the WoD properties together in one mix, even though it kinda flew in the face of canonicity, plus did it with isometric twin stick shooting. And melee. Played through the GameCube version of the original several times when BlockBuster was still around, messed with Redeemer for a few minutes and never really went back, though I've carved through the GC original several times since. Love your work man.
I did not get a chance to play this game because it was on the PS2. But I am a bit surprised to see Wayward's partner to be a playable Hunter. Out of the current Hunters, the original 4 didnt really say anything to invoke that they dislike their current living conditions. Besided Duce with his "I hate Ashcroft" catch phrase. In 1 cutscene, we see how being a Hunter can annoy the hell out of someone. I remember my cousin having that speech completely memorized to speak it on the spot.
Yeah if you're at all familiar with TT HtR line, it's weird that the Wayward joins up like that as Waywards are the broken zealots of the Imbued and most others avoid them. Doubly so when you realize that Joshua (like Carpenter) is not just a canon HtR character but the signature character of the Wayward Creed and is a violent psychopath who murdered his wife and son the moment after he was Imbued. Worse, he's attached Biblical scripture to his madness and goes by the handle God45 on the hunter.net. Yet in the game, he's pretty chill dude... People scratch their heads at Carpenter's fetish gear outfit, I scratch my head at Joshua Matthews not being a stone cold psycho.
your first video a few weeks ago actually made me want to play through wayward again, and i have been waiting for you to post this one. sorta disappointed that you didnt go in-depth to the collectibles, and cheat trophies along with the hidden characters for difficulty completion but its still nice seeing someone reviving these classics. htr:w was the first game i owned on ps2 so its near and dear to me.
can i just say i get hit with a huge positive feeling every time i start one of your vids and hear my system starting up 0.0. oh and your retrospectives are freaking amazing. that's a thing too.
Man, this brings back memories. Used to play those White Wolf tabletop RPGs all the time back in the day, they're some of the most awesomely 90s things ever
"Fun" triva: Joshua was a character from the Pencil and Paper game. Something that bugged me back in the day, and I kinda want to get it off my chest now: Let's talk about Hunter: The Reckoning's Creeds for a second. In Pencil and Paper, there's seven playable and two "sort of" playable creeds. These were broken down into three different virtues: Mercy, Vision, and Zeal, with three creeds in each virtue. Innocents (Mercy) were in the, "monsters are people too," school of thought. This being World of Darkness, there was some truth to that. This was the setting where Werewolves were ecoterrorists who really were trying to save the planet. Mummies were purifying souls who'd suffered in life, while standing against the end of days. Literal Demons from Hell were, at times, sympathetic to humanity. Martyrs (Mercy) were more aggressive and would engage in self-sacrifice trying to save the world (or the people in it.) Redeemers (Mercy) were focused on saving monsters. So, someone who tries to find a way to turn a vampire human again, for example. Visionaries (Vision), which were a creed focused on studying and researching monsters. Avengers (Zeal) were your, "hunt 'em all," monster slayers. They tended to take a very aggressive stance against any monster. Defenders (Zeal) sought to protect ordinary people from the supernatural. Judges (Zeal) were selective, hunting monsters they believed were a danger, or deserved to die, while, often, ignoring ones that weren't a threat. So, those were the seven player creeds. The expectation was that players would pick a mix of creeds, and you'd get some pretty solid conflict off of their different perspectives. For example: An Avenger and a Judge might agree that a vampire needs to die, but might differ on the fate of the vampire's ghouls (human thralls.) The two other creeds were extraordinarily rare and, basically, unplayable. (The books don't give hard population numbers for the Imbued, but knowing White Wolf, I'd hazard a guess at there only being 25-50 of these two Creeds.) A major theme for H:TR was that an Imbued's powers would drive them insane over time. There's explicit comparisons between the Imbued and schizophrenia in the books. The higher their Virtue stats got, the more unhinged they'd become, until they became completely unplayable. The specific explanation was that the powers Hunters received were too much for the human mind to process, so, like an H.P. Lovecraft protagonist, your characters were always running out the clock. The last two creeds took a look at that system, and started sprinting for the finish line. Hermits (Vision) were hunters who were so inundated by their insights that they were barely able to function, while probably having one of the most complete understandings of the world they inhabited. Think, loner conspiracy theorists, rambling on about monsters ruling the world, except, in this case, they're right. Finally, the reason I'm typing all of this, and my favorite Creed: Waywards. Waywards (Vision) were hunters who saw the horrors in the world and reacted with extreme violence. More than the Zeal creeds, Waywards practiced a kind of scorched earth approach to monsters that made them actively dangerous to other Imbued. In particular, Waywards really do not care about collateral damage at all, and there's quite a few examples of these guys waxing other Imbued. There's, actually, some background given in the setting. Waywards were supposed to fill a leadership role among the Imbued. Two of the Creed's Edges (powers) directly affect other Imbued (this is the only Creed with abilities like this), one turns on other Hunters' Second Sight ability remotely, and the other one buffs them, while inflicting damage on them. They're supposed to be the Creed that helped bring the others together, to rally them into a unifying force. However, something went wrong in their imbuing, and the entire Creed went psychotic. Imbued are never, really, fully safe from one another. For, example: an Avenger might decide to kill an Innocent or Redeemer because they're sheltering a monster. However, for a Wayward other Imbued, and normal humans, are speedbumps. It was always a deeply uncomfortable Creed, that really underlined just how messed up the setting was. So, when you stick, "Wayward," on the box, that sounded like it was setting up a very morally gray story about the characters dealing with one of their own on the edge. Combine that with Joshua Matthews, who is an extremely dangerous character in P&P (he's literally, the character on the cover of the Wayward book), and the game we got was really disheartening.
Most of my nostalgic memories are associated with the original game on XboX despite owning the entire series. Us horror fans really had a good run back then. This, the suffering, condemned, the list goes on. I do remember throwing in this title one mid October back in the day, candles lit and crisp autumn air coming through open windows at dusk. Why Hallmark hasn't hired me yet is beyond comprehension.
If you can smeeeeeell what the J is cookin'! The only title in the HTR series i can actually play without needing a Xbox, but a worthy one nonetheless. Keep it up and runnin baldie!
The baldness helps me crank out content faster than youtubers with hair. They waste so much time styling and washing their hair. That's what gives me the edge!
Grind, have a beer, turn on some music in the apartment and smoke before what I decide to do next. Love this series. It gets a little wobbly with just one player but still
I always laugh at that clip of the zombie walking up to the gate right before the bus smashes through it. Me and my friends always pictured the zombie going "Whats that? We got company everybody! Let me go let them in. OH GOD!"
My friend brought this over one day. I never played the original. But holy crap was this game a sh*t ton of fun. I wish they made more action rpgs like this. I love how the CD Easter eggs are actual full length music tracks from real bands that actually don't suck!
I always wanted to play this game, but I never did... Even as a fan of HTR. The presentation reminds me a bit of an old title called Flesh Feast. Except that this is much better. >_> Great video as always, Jared! (also First! Herptie Derpie)
As a fan of the pen and paper RPG back in the day, it was kind of interesting to see Joshua show up in this, since he was a somewhat important character in that canon. The video game version's way more sane and likable though. His character select screen item being his old hospital ID was a nice little nod to his backstory too.
I too remember seeing this all over G4 back in the day but I guess it just didn't hit my radar that hard as I hadn't picked it up to play till now. Always been a fan of the hack and slash/beat 'em up genre ever since I first played Streets of Rage 2 on the Genesis. They're just great games and an awesome stress reliever. Anyway this game is a fine blend of horror, beat 'em up, and light RPG elements thrown in for good measure. Kind of like if Resident Evil was less about solving puzzles and more about stacking up bodies....
Ahhhhh, I thought *this* was the one I didn't enjoy back in the day (after being addicted to the first game for a while), but at the end of the video you mentioned Redeemer. That must be the one I was thinking of. Wayward looks pretty good all things considered, so I'll check it out.
I was clearing out some old stuff found this game along with Hulk Ultimate Destruction, Dragonball Budokai Tenkaichi 1,2,3, Soul Caliber 3, Ultimate Spiderman, Spiderman 2, Burnout 3 Takedown, Tony Hawks American Wasteland, Champions Of Norrath, Dragon Quest 8 and its thick ass guidebook and Kingdom Hearts 2 lol. Memories lane man.
While I generally agree that the feeling that the grind is annoying depends a lot on the gameplay, that is not all to it. It's also a matter of how much grind you have to do. Even a good fighting system will become boring and a chore, if it goes on to long, without being able to get to any new content.
HtR TTRPG player here, Joshua AKA "GOD_45" in Wayward is an established character in the HTR lore, they toned him down IMMENSELY for this game as Joshua was... Fucking Nuts to say the least...
I remember seeing this game in an EGM magazine back in like 2002 I believe. The picture was so creepy but it seemed so interesting considering I was just a kid. Still never got to play it.
This was jam. My friend and I played this thing into the ground. Avenger, judge, wayward were my jam. The immersion was amazing, frustration in gameplay aside 😄
And now you're heading for Redeemer, my favorite of the trilogy. I'm looking forward to that one. As for those NPCs that can see the supernatural but don't have the rest of the Imbued's powers, they are called Bystanders. You see, nearly every World of Darkness line there are the minion class, those people that are in the know about the supernatural, may possess some power and generally serve their type of supernatural (though there are rogue ones that do their own thing). Bystanders are one of the more interesting ones as they COULD have been Hunters themselves but in the moment of their Imbuing, they recoiled from it rather than embrace it. As a result, they can see the supernatural as the Imbued do but have none of their powers or the vague aid the Messengers sometimes provides. So even they do chose to help out, they're limited in just how much they can help the Imbued. Worse, like with all minion classes, they can end up under the thumb as asshole hunters that basically use, abuse and discard them. It can really suck to be an Imbued but it has nothing on the Bystanders.
@@AvalancheReviews Indeed. WoD has always been interesting but sadly rather niche. Which has always struck me as a little odd. Yeah, as a tabletop/live-action RPG, it will always have a smaller audience yet the setting of WoD has always been a fascinating one. ...Well not so much the early wonky days of the 1st Edition when they were still finding their grove and putting things together. Or for that matter the recent 5th Edition where Paradox created a new White Wolf and handed the reigns over to a controversial figure that basically made a massive mess of things to the point that Paradox had to shut down WW and hand the 5th Ed to other RPG studios. But yeah, as a whole it is a truly fascinating setting that really deserves more love. The video games that have come out only scratch the surface of it. There's tons of stuff that the games barely touch. Take for instance, Wayward's final boss, the Nephwrack. The game tells you little about it. As far as the game is concerned, it's some eldritch alien thing from the Underworld. Nephwrack isn't even it's name but rather what it is. Nephwracks are ancient Spectres, ghosts that were either terrible people in life or ghosts that have utterly consumed by their own darker impulses and become slaves to Oblivion, the Force of Unmaking in the Universe. Nephwracks are those that have been around so long that they've lost all traces of humanity, becoming utterly alien. And they're not even the top of the Spectre food chain. There are things older and more terrible than them. Perhaps if Bloodlines 2 and the upcoming Werewolf game are successful, it will open up the setting to wider audiences and lead to more games.
I dunno why, but I've always really enjoyed sequels in this era like Pokémon XD or Viewtiful Joe 2 that basically upgrade and polish the previous game, building upon what the previous one did. Also, is it bad that I really liked the crunchy pixels you had going on with the forced 480p? I think it's all the time I've spent on the 3DS xD
I think that look is perfect for some games. It can kind of cover up small details up close, but sitting back on the couch, it looks great to me. The ps2's video output is interesting. You won't see those chunky vertical pixels on most games. Just the ones using the 240 line front buffer. Some games look amazing in 480p. Some don't. It's a weird system for sure.
one of those games my cousins had and everyweekend when I went over I'd want to play even though the game scared the crap outta me. never got very far in it but man I remember the first few areas really well we played the crap outta it
@@AvalancheReviews I still own my original copy, bought it for 15 smackers when it was a month old back when I worked for Kay-Bee toys... I'm just making myself feel old at this point... I've been trying to do a full let's play with some buddies for my channel for about a year, sadly they just aren't that interested in keeping it going, and I just feel like a doof doing it by myself :/
Looking at the series through the lens the people at White Wolf really just wanting to get more players interested in the World of Darkness and all of the cool stuff they were doing for Hunter: The Reckoning, and Wraith: The Oblivion's releases, I /kinda/ understand why they released the sequel on the ONE console of the day that they didn't originally release on... But as a videogamer I loath the decision and think they should have released a PS2 port for the first game before doing this. That being said, I never had an Xbox and only got an Xbox 360 years after the release of H:TR Redeemer and I was actually angry that I wasn't able to play it on my PS2.
I'm trying to find a PS2 that is like this, with the co-op, but there are skeletons and its more of a dungeon setting crawler game. Can anyone help me find what im looking for ? it has diablo aspects with looting, equiping medieval axes, swords etc. but i cannot find the game or the name of it anywhere.
Well don't forget about Hunter the reckoning Redeemer that was Xbox exclusive Also brings back all the main characters and the little girl Kylie she grew up and after seeing her mom and dad being killed by her demonically possessed teddy bear she also becomes a hunter Creed Redeemer. From what I loosely remember of the plot is it starts with Kylie helping a supposed hunter who runs a chemical company that is being attacked by werewolves the plot twist is this time the werewolves are actually the good guys. Also for wayward you forget to mention that carpenter the vampire is also a playable character after he's unlocked, and let's not forget the GameShark, action replay and code breakers cheat disks. I liked your retrospect on Hunter the reckoning but you left a lot out.
How do you capture 60fps on your PS2 games? I have so much trouble with Elgato saying it captures them at 60fps all to find the saved video file is actually 30fps.
I use a framemeister to upscale them, and an Avermedia Extremecap U3 to cpature to footage. Maybe it's because the framemeister converts the analog vidoe to hdmi?
I was thinking about this game I remmember playing it with my friend when I was 7 years old I would always invite him to play coop with me because i was too scared to touch the game
I never got to play this one but my favorite is redeemer I liked the more you used an item you leveled it up but I never felt I got stat points if I remember correctly
Not in the video game no. In the tabletop you can have all 3 virtues but your main virtue can't be lower than the others. It's also impossible to have all the edges. Technically the highest you can take anyone edge is 4 dots, assuming you dedicate all the points of a virtue to the same edge.
Point me to a tanklike creed, and I'll be happy lol. Usually, interlacing looks better on the PS2 back in the day, but I'm not video editor buff like you or Joe Redifer from Game Sack.
@@AvalancheReviews i'm pumped. i'm relatively new to this channel but your content is pivotal to my nostalgic tendencies. lol. please, please keep up the good work man.
Any chance of reviewing the two 'The Suffering' games or 'Psi Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy?' You might like 'Geist' on GameCube too, an M rated exclusive with a paranormal twist. Retro gaming is great. So many great games out there. Plus their free of most of the baloney ruining gaming now.
Both Psi Ops and Geist have been on my list for a while, since I've never played either. In fact, for the longest time, I thought Psi Ops and Second Sight, were the same game. I will get around to the Suffering too. I always liked that game.
@Avalanche Reviews, Nice. Their all great games in their own way. You might also like a little FPS called 'Darkwatch' for the original Xbox and PS2. You play as a cowboy bitten by a vampire. XD
I saw that you have a video about Suikoden tactics and 4, but you don't have a video of Suikoden II??? how dare you! Suikoden II is THE JRPG of JRPGs also the best RPG game ever, no turn based RPG has a flashy cool combat system as Suikoden II also the music and story in that game is 10/10, you need to make a video about it!
I agree. It's incredible, but I just don't know what I could say about it, that everyone else hasn't already said. I'm always down to replay it, so maybe I'll end up covering it sometime soon. It's been a while since my last jrpg review.
@@AvalancheReviews I'm sure you could make a quality video about the game, plus all the Suikoden II videos on RUclips are not exactly what I would call a satisfying content so justice needs to be served, we need a Suikoden II Retrospective video! I've seen a LOT of RE review videos, but none of them were as good as your retrospective videos, same goes to the Dino Crisis videos, so I'm waiting.
I tried playing through it years ago with my girlfriend. We ended up dropping it because it got monotonous. If you have a PS2, I think Baulder's Gate: Dark Alliance (series) and the Everquest rpgs are better.
Me and the wife always get to the mechanic's level and end up getting smashed by the robots. My wife loves Dark Alliance, but I've never played it with her. Is it worth trying out?
I'm sorry my good sir I must implor you what did you think of Leroy? Because let me tell ya, me and my mum HATE Leroy, all my homies hate Leroy.... escort mission except a guy WITH CHAINS ON HIS HANDS PUNCHES ZOMBIES THAT HAVE KNIVES. he SEEKS trouble with forces that will slice him into itty bitty peices it took about 3-4 hours for us to complete that level because he kept running into his death, GAH...
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It's been long enough that now I'm unsure if I ever played the original or this sequel. Maybe I just remember the Rule 34 version, "Humper the Reckoning" which takes place in Asscroft
HAAA! You deserve recognition for writing this.
@@AvalancheReviews Thanks! That comment was my Citizen Kane....porno s&m adaption
I thought it was Humper; The Wreckoning,nevertheless a classic.
Absolutely loved this game in my childhood, remember it as clear as yesterday playing with my best friend on his ps2 and I always played as Deuce the biker
If I'm remembering correctly G4 ran a "making of" special for Wayward and Redeemer, both games were actually made at the same time. This ofcourse was when G4 was a thing, and when they actually aired kickass gaming content, goddamn I feel old now.
Fuck! I want to get a hold of that!
They did. It is how I became a fan. Never played Wayward but beat the first and third all due to that special
A remake of this would be unbelievable
Yup
I loved how these games brought all the WoD properties together in one mix, even though it kinda flew in the face of canonicity, plus did it with isometric twin stick shooting. And melee. Played through the GameCube version of the original several times when BlockBuster was still around, messed with Redeemer for a few minutes and never really went back, though I've carved through the GC original several times since. Love your work man.
Thank you! Blockbuster was the reason I discovered the first game too!
Grew up playing this. So god damn happy that you're covering classic titles like this. Love you fam!
That love goes both ways!
Thank you so much for covering this game!! This was my favourite Co-op game of all time! It was my introduction to world of darkness!
I did not get a chance to play this game because it was on the PS2. But I am a bit surprised to see Wayward's partner to be a playable Hunter.
Out of the current Hunters, the original 4 didnt really say anything to invoke that they dislike their current living conditions. Besided Duce with his "I hate Ashcroft" catch phrase.
In 1 cutscene, we see how being a Hunter can annoy the hell out of someone. I remember my cousin having that speech completely memorized to speak it on the spot.
Yeah if you're at all familiar with TT HtR line, it's weird that the Wayward joins up like that as Waywards are the broken zealots of the Imbued and most others avoid them. Doubly so when you realize that Joshua (like Carpenter) is not just a canon HtR character but the signature character of the Wayward Creed and is a violent psychopath who murdered his wife and son the moment after he was Imbued. Worse, he's attached Biblical scripture to his madness and goes by the handle God45 on the hunter.net.
Yet in the game, he's pretty chill dude...
People scratch their heads at Carpenter's fetish gear outfit, I scratch my head at Joshua Matthews not being a stone cold psycho.
I always rented this game from Hollywood Video. Good times!
Man, that name brings back memories
Man...takes me back!
Hollywood video and blockbuster was the greatest. Nowadays, barely anybody has a blu ray player. Everybody is streaming
your first video a few weeks ago actually made me want to play through wayward again, and i have been waiting for you to post this one. sorta disappointed that you didnt go in-depth to the collectibles, and cheat trophies along with the hidden characters for difficulty completion but its still nice seeing someone reviving these classics. htr:w was the first game i owned on ps2 so its near and dear to me.
I probably should have covered that stuff. I just get my mind racing on how to explain the game to people, and I always end up leaving something out.
Lack of 4 player co-op sounds like a letdown, but basically everything else sounds better here. Need to check both of these out.
It's everything that worked with the last game, but tweaked and improved slightly. It's pretty much the perfect sequel.
Just revisited this on 1st gen Ps3 & didn't even know this is a sequel! What game, such a blast to jam on classic couch coop!
I never knew this was a sequel. Always thought it was a port of the first game. Going to have to get a copy
Subscribed immediately when I found you covering these games. I still have them all. Love these games. I really like what you're doing here.
These games were an enigma for me and my bro always looking for a copy but stores bough few copies and never got more in my area
can i just say i get hit with a huge positive feeling every time i start one of your vids and hear my system starting up 0.0. oh and your retrospectives are freaking amazing. that's a thing too.
I'm very glad to hear that! Thank you.
Man, this brings back memories. Used to play those White Wolf tabletop RPGs all the time back in the day, they're some of the most awesomely 90s things ever
love seeing games from way back get a fair retrospective
"Fun" triva: Joshua was a character from the Pencil and Paper game.
Something that bugged me back in the day, and I kinda want to get it off my chest now: Let's talk about Hunter: The Reckoning's Creeds for a second.
In Pencil and Paper, there's seven playable and two "sort of" playable creeds. These were broken down into three different virtues: Mercy, Vision, and Zeal, with three creeds in each virtue.
Innocents (Mercy) were in the, "monsters are people too," school of thought. This being World of Darkness, there was some truth to that. This was the setting where Werewolves were ecoterrorists who really were trying to save the planet. Mummies were purifying souls who'd suffered in life, while standing against the end of days. Literal Demons from Hell were, at times, sympathetic to humanity.
Martyrs (Mercy) were more aggressive and would engage in self-sacrifice trying to save the world (or the people in it.)
Redeemers (Mercy) were focused on saving monsters. So, someone who tries to find a way to turn a vampire human again, for example.
Visionaries (Vision), which were a creed focused on studying and researching monsters.
Avengers (Zeal) were your, "hunt 'em all," monster slayers. They tended to take a very aggressive stance against any monster.
Defenders (Zeal) sought to protect ordinary people from the supernatural.
Judges (Zeal) were selective, hunting monsters they believed were a danger, or deserved to die, while, often, ignoring ones that weren't a threat.
So, those were the seven player creeds. The expectation was that players would pick a mix of creeds, and you'd get some pretty solid conflict off of their different perspectives. For example: An Avenger and a Judge might agree that a vampire needs to die, but might differ on the fate of the vampire's ghouls (human thralls.)
The two other creeds were extraordinarily rare and, basically, unplayable. (The books don't give hard population numbers for the Imbued, but knowing White Wolf, I'd hazard a guess at there only being 25-50 of these two Creeds.)
A major theme for H:TR was that an Imbued's powers would drive them insane over time. There's explicit comparisons between the Imbued and schizophrenia in the books. The higher their Virtue stats got, the more unhinged they'd become, until they became completely unplayable. The specific explanation was that the powers Hunters received were too much for the human mind to process, so, like an H.P. Lovecraft protagonist, your characters were always running out the clock. The last two creeds took a look at that system, and started sprinting for the finish line.
Hermits (Vision) were hunters who were so inundated by their insights that they were barely able to function, while probably having one of the most complete understandings of the world they inhabited. Think, loner conspiracy theorists, rambling on about monsters ruling the world, except, in this case, they're right.
Finally, the reason I'm typing all of this, and my favorite Creed: Waywards.
Waywards (Vision) were hunters who saw the horrors in the world and reacted with extreme violence. More than the Zeal creeds, Waywards practiced a kind of scorched earth approach to monsters that made them actively dangerous to other Imbued. In particular, Waywards really do not care about collateral damage at all, and there's quite a few examples of these guys waxing other Imbued.
There's, actually, some background given in the setting. Waywards were supposed to fill a leadership role among the Imbued. Two of the Creed's Edges (powers) directly affect other Imbued (this is the only Creed with abilities like this), one turns on other Hunters' Second Sight ability remotely, and the other one buffs them, while inflicting damage on them. They're supposed to be the Creed that helped bring the others together, to rally them into a unifying force. However, something went wrong in their imbuing, and the entire Creed went psychotic.
Imbued are never, really, fully safe from one another. For, example: an Avenger might decide to kill an Innocent or Redeemer because they're sheltering a monster. However, for a Wayward other Imbued, and normal humans, are speedbumps. It was always a deeply uncomfortable Creed, that really underlined just how messed up the setting was.
So, when you stick, "Wayward," on the box, that sounded like it was setting up a very morally gray story about the characters dealing with one of their own on the edge. Combine that with Joshua Matthews, who is an extremely dangerous character in P&P (he's literally, the character on the cover of the Wayward book), and the game we got was really disheartening.
As a standalone game, I loved it as a kid and am currently loving it as a fully grown adult. With that context. I feel bad you got the game you did.
Completely forgot Redeemer existed. Can't wait for that video. Pretty sure my dad and I went through it when I was a kid.
It'll be out next week. Honestly, I think it's my favorite hunter game.
Very deep retrospective man, hope to see you on twitch!
You sure will!
Hunter The Reckoning and Untold Legends are two big series for me growing up, so it's nice that one of them is getting some love.
Most of my nostalgic memories are associated with the original game on XboX despite owning the entire series. Us horror fans really had a good run back then. This, the suffering, condemned, the list goes on. I do remember throwing in this title one mid October back in the day, candles lit and crisp autumn air coming through open windows at dusk. Why Hallmark hasn't hired me yet is beyond comprehension.
You have a tip of the hat from another failed hallmark writer...............me. HA!
😂
If you can smeeeeeell what the J is cookin'!
The only title in the HTR series i can actually play without needing a Xbox, but a worthy one nonetheless. Keep it up and runnin baldie!
The baldness helps me crank out content faster than youtubers with hair. They waste so much time styling and washing their hair. That's what gives me the edge!
@@AvalancheReviews Hail the mighty unhairedness folks
You can play the original without an Xbox. Its on GameCube too.
I stand corrected. Didn't know they had to downgrade for GameCube. Oof.
Jared "A new, familiar face" Avalanche
Grind, have a beer, turn on some music in the apartment and smoke before what I decide to do next. Love this series. It gets a little wobbly with just one player but still
Honestly, I prefer it single player. All 3 games are crazy hard for me when more people join in.
I always laugh at that clip of the zombie walking up to the gate right before the bus smashes through it. Me and my friends always pictured the zombie going "Whats that? We got company everybody! Let me go let them in. OH GOD!"
HAAA!
My friend brought this over one day. I never played the original. But holy crap was this game a sh*t ton of fun. I wish they made more action rpgs like this. I love how the CD Easter eggs are actual full length music tracks from real bands that actually don't suck!
Y'know, I skipped this series when you uploaded it, because I had never heard of the games, but I really want to give this a shot now.
I always wanted to play this game, but I never did... Even as a fan of HTR. The presentation reminds me a bit of an old title called Flesh Feast. Except that this is much better. >_> Great video as always, Jared! (also First! Herptie Derpie)
Banned for being first! Aldo, Flesh Feast needs to be a death metal band, not a game.
As a fan of the pen and paper RPG back in the day, it was kind of interesting to see Joshua show up in this, since he was a somewhat important character in that canon. The video game version's way more sane and likable though. His character select screen item being his old hospital ID was a nice little nod to his backstory too.
I too remember seeing this all over G4 back in the day but I guess it just didn't hit my radar that hard as I hadn't picked it up to play till now. Always been a fan of the hack and slash/beat 'em up genre ever since I first played Streets of Rage 2 on the Genesis. They're just great games and an awesome stress reliever. Anyway this game is a fine blend of horror, beat 'em up, and light RPG elements thrown in for good measure. Kind of like if Resident Evil was less about solving puzzles and more about stacking up bodies....
Ahhhhh, I thought *this* was the one I didn't enjoy back in the day (after being addicted to the first game for a while), but at the end of the video you mentioned Redeemer. That must be the one I was thinking of. Wayward looks pretty good all things considered, so I'll check it out.
I'll be honest, redeemer might be my favorite of of the 3. It's fun as hell.
@@AvalancheReviews Interesting! Definitely looking forward to your review of it.
Jared posted a video? My birthday isn't until November!
By the by, where's that Stasis review? Still haven't forgotten. :p
I think it's about time for me to finally deliver on that.
I was clearing out some old stuff found this game along with Hulk Ultimate Destruction, Dragonball Budokai Tenkaichi 1,2,3, Soul Caliber 3, Ultimate Spiderman, Spiderman 2, Burnout 3 Takedown, Tony Hawks American Wasteland, Champions Of Norrath, Dragon Quest 8 and its thick ass guidebook and Kingdom Hearts 2 lol. Memories lane man.
I've played the first Hunter the Reckoning and Redeemer, but I this is my first time hearing of Wayward. I honestly miss this game franchise.
Wayward is basically just more Reckoning. Which is all I ever wanted.
I couldn’t figure out the name of this game for years ! Always lives in my head rent free! Lol
While I generally agree that the feeling that the grind is annoying depends a lot on the gameplay, that is not all to it.
It's also a matter of how much grind you have to do. Even a good fighting system will become boring and a chore, if it goes on to long, without being able to get to any new content.
HtR TTRPG player here, Joshua AKA "GOD_45" in Wayward is an established character in the HTR lore, they toned him down IMMENSELY for this game as Joshua was... Fucking Nuts to say the least...
I think you might like HTR: Redeemer, it has a good time jump.
I remember seeing this game in an EGM magazine back in like 2002 I believe. The picture was so creepy but it seemed so interesting considering I was just a kid. Still never got to play it.
I think the first time I ever say it was at a blockbuster. I saw the front case and knew it was for me.
This was jam. My friend and I played this thing into the ground. Avenger, judge, wayward were my jam.
The immersion was amazing, frustration in gameplay aside 😄
The bosses design is amazing
And now you're heading for Redeemer, my favorite of the trilogy. I'm looking forward to that one.
As for those NPCs that can see the supernatural but don't have the rest of the Imbued's powers, they are called Bystanders. You see, nearly every World of Darkness line there are the minion class, those people that are in the know about the supernatural, may possess some power and generally serve their type of supernatural (though there are rogue ones that do their own thing). Bystanders are one of the more interesting ones as they COULD have been Hunters themselves but in the moment of their Imbuing, they recoiled from it rather than embrace it. As a result, they can see the supernatural as the Imbued do but have none of their powers or the vague aid the Messengers sometimes provides. So even they do chose to help out, they're limited in just how much they can help the Imbued. Worse, like with all minion classes, they can end up under the thumb as asshole hunters that basically use, abuse and discard them.
It can really suck to be an Imbued but it has nothing on the Bystanders.
That's so damn cool! I wish there were more media dealing with the WoD. It's so damn interesting.
@@AvalancheReviews Indeed. WoD has always been interesting but sadly rather niche. Which has always struck me as a little odd. Yeah, as a tabletop/live-action RPG, it will always have a smaller audience yet the setting of WoD has always been a fascinating one.
...Well not so much the early wonky days of the 1st Edition when they were still finding their grove and putting things together.
Or for that matter the recent 5th Edition where Paradox created a new White Wolf and handed the reigns over to a controversial figure that basically made a massive mess of things to the point that Paradox had to shut down WW and hand the 5th Ed to other RPG studios.
But yeah, as a whole it is a truly fascinating setting that really deserves more love. The video games that have come out only scratch the surface of it. There's tons of stuff that the games barely touch.
Take for instance, Wayward's final boss, the Nephwrack. The game tells you little about it. As far as the game is concerned, it's some eldritch alien thing from the Underworld. Nephwrack isn't even it's name but rather what it is. Nephwracks are ancient Spectres, ghosts that were either terrible people in life or ghosts that have utterly consumed by their own darker impulses and become slaves to Oblivion, the Force of Unmaking in the Universe. Nephwracks are those that have been around so long that they've lost all traces of humanity, becoming utterly alien. And they're not even the top of the Spectre food chain. There are things older and more terrible than them.
Perhaps if Bloodlines 2 and the upcoming Werewolf game are successful, it will open up the setting to wider audiences and lead to more games.
I dunno why, but I've always really enjoyed sequels in this era like Pokémon XD or Viewtiful Joe 2 that basically upgrade and polish the previous game, building upon what the previous one did.
Also, is it bad that I really liked the crunchy pixels you had going on with the forced 480p? I think it's all the time I've spent on the 3DS xD
I think that look is perfect for some games. It can kind of cover up small details up close, but sitting back on the couch, it looks great to me. The ps2's video output is interesting. You won't see those chunky vertical pixels on most games. Just the ones using the 240 line front buffer. Some games look amazing in 480p. Some don't. It's a weird system for sure.
one of those games my cousins had and everyweekend when I went over I'd want to play even though the game scared the crap outta me. never got very far in it but man I remember the first few areas really well we played the crap outta it
You should do a retrospective on Eternal Darkness if youve ever played it (which im sure you have)
I'm always on the lookout for a copy of Eternal Darkness. Its price has gone down lately, but it's still relatively expensive.
@@AvalancheReviews I still own my original copy, bought it for 15 smackers when it was a month old back when I worked for Kay-Bee toys... I'm just making myself feel old at this point... I've been trying to do a full let's play with some buddies for my channel for about a year, sadly they just aren't that interested in keeping it going, and I just feel like a doof doing it by myself :/
Looking at the series through the lens the people at White Wolf really just wanting to get more players interested in the World of Darkness and all of the cool stuff they were doing for Hunter: The Reckoning, and Wraith: The Oblivion's releases, I /kinda/ understand why they released the sequel on the ONE console of the day that they didn't originally release on...
But as a videogamer I loath the decision and think they should have released a PS2 port for the first game before doing this.
That being said, I never had an Xbox and only got an Xbox 360 years after the release of H:TR Redeemer and I was actually angry that I wasn't able to play it on my PS2.
I'm trying to find a PS2 that is like this, with the co-op, but there are skeletons and its more of a dungeon setting crawler game. Can anyone help me find what im looking for ? it has diablo aspects with looting, equiping medieval axes, swords etc. but i cannot find the game or the name of it anywhere.
Crazy! I thought I was the only one who liked these games..always a sucker for team zombie killing wouldn't mind a reboot
Man, that would be amazing.
I've played this a ridiculous amount.
I can't find OST for this game.
Well don't forget about Hunter the reckoning Redeemer that was Xbox exclusive
Also brings back all the main characters and the little girl Kylie she grew up and after seeing her mom and dad being killed by her demonically possessed teddy bear she also becomes a hunter Creed Redeemer.
From what I loosely remember of the plot is it starts with Kylie helping a supposed hunter who runs a chemical company that is being attacked by werewolves the plot twist is this time the werewolves are actually the good guys.
Also for wayward you forget to mention that carpenter the vampire is also a playable character after he's unlocked, and let's not forget the GameShark, action replay and code breakers cheat disks.
I liked your retrospect on Hunter the reckoning but you left a lot out.
How do you capture 60fps on your PS2 games? I have so much trouble with Elgato saying it captures them at 60fps all to find the saved video file is actually 30fps.
I use a framemeister to upscale them, and an Avermedia Extremecap U3 to cpature to footage. Maybe it's because the framemeister converts the analog vidoe to hdmi?
I was thinking about this game I remmember playing it with my friend when I was 7 years old I would always invite him to play coop with me because i was too scared to touch the game
So these never made it out of PS2? I have never heard of them.
I never got to play this one but my favorite is redeemer I liked the more you used an item you leveled it up but I never felt I got stat points if I remember correctly
Wait a Hunter the Reckoning video in 2019? People know of this hidden gem?
Can a hunter acquire all the edges? Have all the virtues?
Not in the video game no. In the tabletop you can have all 3 virtues but your main virtue can't be lower than the others. It's also impossible to have all the edges. Technically the highest you can take anyone edge is 4 dots, assuming you dedicate all the points of a virtue to the same edge.
Point me to a tanklike creed, and I'll be happy lol.
Usually, interlacing looks better on the PS2 back in the day, but I'm not video editor buff like you or Joe Redifer from Game Sack.
It definitely looked great on a crt tv, but the eternal struggle is getting it to look alright on a modern display.
The gamecube game was pretty good
I played the Xbox one were the little girl whose teddy killed her parents was the extra character rather than the train driver
Holy shit I was just asking some co workers if they’ve ever played or heard of this game ! Or THE SUFFERING
I liked this game, its simple and yet fun, better when play in co-op mode
Me and my wife play it co-op all the time. A second player makes the difficulty shoot up, but it's fun as all hell.
@@AvalancheReviews Ikr xD
Something always felt missing from this entry. I don’t think the sequels ever captured the “magic” of the original.
To my knowledge wasn't Wayward a prequel to the game not a sequel?
Nope, it takes place after the events of the first game.
Galerians
Ever heard of that one?
bruh.... tell me redeemer is coming after this...
well, nevermind. kaylie was in the intro to this video, so i'm sure it's coming.
Yep! It's coming up next.
@@AvalancheReviews i'm pumped. i'm relatively new to this channel but your content is pivotal to my nostalgic tendencies. lol. please, please keep up the good work man.
I could never pass the prison.. the enemies were just to strong for me
Omg yes thank you bro
My pleasure!
i never played the second game just the first and redeemer.. i really should since i own it
Any chance of reviewing the two 'The Suffering' games or 'Psi Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy?'
You might like 'Geist' on GameCube too, an M rated exclusive with a paranormal twist.
Retro gaming is great. So many great games out there. Plus their free of most of the baloney ruining gaming now.
Both Psi Ops and Geist have been on my list for a while, since I've never played either. In fact, for the longest time, I thought Psi Ops and Second Sight, were the same game. I will get around to the Suffering too. I always liked that game.
@Avalanche Reviews, Nice. Their all great games in their own way.
You might also like a little FPS called 'Darkwatch' for the original Xbox and PS2. You play as a cowboy bitten by a vampire. XD
COUGH!!silenthillretrospectiveCOUGH!!
You have no idea how close you are to getting one.
You know how long it takes to get that rotten smell off a knife? It takes hours!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wonderful!
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Kind of reminds me of Clive Barkers Jericho.
Yeah it sort of has a similar feel.
Yeah, I think this was the one I had cause I remember that gun nut hunter. I also remember not liking the game at all, never was a fan of the style.
I saw that you have a video about Suikoden tactics and 4, but you don't have a video of Suikoden II??? how dare you! Suikoden II is THE JRPG of JRPGs also the best RPG game ever, no turn based RPG has a flashy cool combat system as Suikoden II also the music and story in that game is 10/10, you need to make a video about it!
I agree. It's incredible, but I just don't know what I could say about it, that everyone else hasn't already said. I'm always down to replay it, so maybe I'll end up covering it sometime soon. It's been a while since my last jrpg review.
@@AvalancheReviews I'm sure you could make a quality video about the game, plus all the Suikoden II videos on RUclips are not exactly what I would call a satisfying content so justice needs to be served, we need a Suikoden II Retrospective video! I've seen a LOT of RE review videos, but none of them were as good as your retrospective videos, same goes to the Dino Crisis videos, so I'm waiting.
I tried playing through it years ago with my girlfriend. We ended up dropping it because it got monotonous. If you have a PS2, I think Baulder's Gate: Dark Alliance (series) and the Everquest rpgs are better.
I really enjoyed the BG:DA series. Was a fun romp in the D&D universe.
Me and the wife always get to the mechanic's level and end up getting smashed by the robots. My wife loves Dark Alliance, but I've never played it with her. Is it worth trying out?
@@AvalancheReviews Def yes!!
@@AvalancheReviews the game is a great dungeon crawler. Good characters, stories and mechanics
Obscure series retrospective pls pls plssss
I definitely will.
Had some much fun playing this on GameCube.. bought it on Xbox... it fucking sucks
I'm sorry my good sir I must implor you what did you think of Leroy? Because let me tell ya, me and my mum HATE Leroy, all my homies hate Leroy.... escort mission except a guy WITH CHAINS ON HIS HANDS PUNCHES ZOMBIES THAT HAVE KNIVES. he SEEKS trouble with forces that will slice him into itty bitty peices it took about 3-4 hours for us to complete that level because he kept running into his death, GAH...
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