Contingency Reviews: 2018 Fiat 124 Spider Lusso Plus - Lloyd Vehicle Consulting
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Film a Contingency Review! In this eleventh episode, we test a 2018 Fiat 124 Spider Lusso Plus, which is very like an ND Mazda MX-5 for obvious reasons. On this occasion, open and close a roof, fail to find some cupholders, raise some windows and generally ramble on about things of no consequence at all. Nothing untoward, then!
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Good morning Joseph thank you very much for featuring my car on your terrific Channel.
As always, very down to earth and honest reviews.
Kind regards from the owner of the car.
Why, thank you, sir! I very much enjoyed this, going to mark it for channel members now until it goes live on the channel publicly next week. The condition was absolutely exemplary!
Once again MR Lloyd you bring us something truly special and stunning.
We aim to please, sir! This was something that had been on the cards for a while, but I was able to fit this into an itinerary with a lot of other filming, which made it viable to do. Thank you ever so much indeed for watching!
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It's a lovely car indeed, perfect for a weekend car, in good weather. Fiat nailed the design, and rightfully so, it should be a future classic in the making.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. , the owner definitely agrees with you about that, sir!
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Never knew about the relationship with Mazda or being built in Japan. It will do wonders for electrics and build quality.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. , that's the theory, sir!
Excellent review as Always Sir, very rare to see a Fiat version as the ones I have seen are the Abarth versions.
This example is beautiful in this colour.
That's right, the Abarths seem to be more common for some reason. It is hard to describe just how lovely the condition of this car was.
the screen is a touch screen when the car is not moving but there is a program to allow you to override the touchscreen restriction when driving.
Thank you ever so much indeed, Michael! I loved driving this immaculate 124 Spider, what a great car. I hope that you enjoyed the video.
any vehicle that can put a smile on your face was worth building now matter how successful or unsuccessful it may have been.
Great in that shade of red.
You did not really mention the seat comfort Sir but it seemed to be very agreeable.
l have heard that the 1.4 Turbo is a great engine.
Thank you David for buying the 124 Spider and for letting Joseph show it to us. It is a credit to you.
The seat comfort wasn't too bad, sir, it reminded me of an MX-5, which is no bad thing. It was a lot of fun, I completely understand why David got hold of this immaculate low mileage example, which only comes out in good weather.
Your very welcome Sean, from David the owner of the car.
@@djb4069 enjoy Lad. My Grandfather always drove Fiats up until his death in 1975. My Brother Michael still owns my Grandfather's 1975 Fiat 127 Special that he traded his 1973 Fiat 127 for a month before he died.
My Daughter currently loves her 2019 Fiat 500 S. I, myself, had sterling service from 2 Fiat Pandas between 1996 and 2003.
As an MX5 NC owner, I've got the opportunity to hire one of these for a few days in Tenerife and I'm really tempted to try it out... This video has made it hard not to - thank you for being a bad influence Mr Lloyd.
Well sir, the review I did of an NC (with the older style of shaky mount) is in the description below! I very much enjoyed it, and I enjoyed this too, have a good holiday.
Thank you very much! Hoping to bring mine to the social event at the motor museum in a couple of weeks
@@jamesthomson3511 , fantastic, we look forward to seeing you there!
Big fan of these cars. I think they’ll improve with age and become more desirable. Love the simplicity but they’re actually well spec’ed for a little sports car. Thanks for another great review!
Thank you, sir! Lots more reviews coming up this week. I remember this, quite a special car, and in superb condition.
Lovely car…I would definitely consider one…I do though wonder why Fiat didn’t just carry over the Mazda engine and suspension as well rather than drop their own in - why bother changing something that I assume is pretty good in the MX5? If im nit picking the Fiat badge on the bootlid looks like a bit of an afterthought but otherwise I reckon its a design success! Also, manual hood is a huge bonus as far as im concerned!
I think Fiat were keen to stamp their own identity on the car, and fitting their own engine, along with suspension revisions, helped them to complement the styling changes. It didn't work, though, as production ended after less than three years, sadly.
Just a kind line from the Owner of the car, Joseph thank you for coming over and doing an honest review on the car.
This is the second time I have said this, but someone didn't obviously like all the good reviews about the car and me saying thanks to you.
As the review on RUclips got deleted!!.
Kind regards David
Sometimes comments on RUclips just disappear on their own accord for some reason without me having done anything, sir! Glad you have enjoyed watching it for the second time, everyone else absolutely seems to love your car too.
FIAT?, why on earth didn't they badge it as the new Dustin Hoffman Alfa Romeo Duetto Spider?
Thanks ever so much indeed for watching and commenting, Clive! That's a really good question. As far as I understand it, the original plan was for it to badge it as an Alfa Romeo. However, this would have been a major change from previous Alfa Romeo policy, which dictates that all models are made in Italy. Fiat makes cars in several different countries already, so it was a much better fit in this regard.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Fanastic missed opportunity. FIAT famed for its economic small mass produced cars. Alfa famed for its racing heritage and sports cars, which do they chose?? Esp bonkers in the 2 seat open top market were brands and fashion rule. FIAT?
@@cliveprocter3698 , the link with the historic 124 Sport Spider is a good one, but in terms of whether or not the Alfa Romeo marketing strategy has helped or hindered them in the long run, I couldn't really tell you....
This is an exceptional vehicle that is in exceptional condition!
I see more Fiat 500 vehicles than I do of this particular 124 Spyder.
I believe 2019 was the last year for this particular vehicle in the US, I'm not positive.
The Multiair engine powered most of Fiat vehicles in the US 🇺🇸. I just spotted a 500L, just as rare as this Spyder.
I believe it did not sell well because it was not "Fiat", meaning this was badge-engineered. Fiat purists most likely wanted something completely Fiat. From your review, this has the best of Fiat combined with Mazda.
The front end has that very long bonnet (hood), which I never really noticed before! Same model line-up here in the US as well.
Excellent review Joseph, thank you very much!
The 124 Spider was a bit of an odd one, as it wasn't a lot of Fiat engineering, but basing it on an MX-5 should have been meant a very solid platform (and indeed it does). They got the design just right, but even so, but the sales numbers never materialised. A shame, however, examples like this are an absolute joy.
Great review Sir. Cracking looking car, lovely Red colour ( Alpha like ). A friend treated himself to a 67 plate spider Lusso last year, for his 81st birthday ! He is very active. I liked the option of satin black bonnet & boot, something completely different these days.
I can't emphasise enough what sort of condition this car is in. Absolutely beautiful, better than some press cars I have driven. I expect that your friend must love his 124 Spider!
What a lovely car! I agree with your admiration of its looks: it is gorgeous. Designing the front and rear sections in Italy and the centre section in Japan could have been a recipe for a Frankenstein result but it has obviously worked exceedingly well.
I like the controls very much and strongly agree with your comments about the absence of a touch screen.
The Mazda system in this car is quite simple by 2022 standards, but it works surprisingly well. The car does have a centre section very similar to the MX-5, but it isn't to the car's detriment at all. I don't know why this wasn't more popular, really.
No Roy, the Spider is a far more integrated design than the Cadillac BLS or the wonderful Austin 3 litre.
Adapting an existing centre section to use new front and rear ends can be done very well or very badly. Mazda and Fiat knocked this one out of the Park.
I wonder if the decision to drop the model was influenced by the establishment of the Stallantis Partnership.
Anyway, gorgeous car.
@@seancooke7332 , the Cadillac BLS should be something that I ought to review if I can actually get hold of one.
My 2017 124 Abarth has a touch screen, you can’t be moving to operate it, however.
@@davidbattaglia2336 , could be a different system, not sure.
Fantastic cars, and one of those where I’d happily have either one of these or the Abarth.
It was a fantastic car! I prefer this one over the Abarth version, but that probably comes as no surprise...
I've enjoyed my '17 classica for just over a year now. I'd always driven trucks but when it came time to get a newer vehicle the Fiat was the only manual transmission on the lot. I'm so glad I took the risk. It's not a super fast sports car, but the experience is more a kin to strapping on a jetpack with fantastic exhaust.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! Yes, these are an absolute blast, and the manual gearbox is, unsurprisingly, really good. They aren't the most powerful, but they do feel fast.
Thank you for this video! I am not sure if any of these Fiats came to New Zealand but as I have implied in earlier comments, the MX-5 has maintained a strong following in New Zealand. There was rally version of this Fiat that competed in the poorly contested GT section of the World Rally Championship, paying homage to the original car's success in rallying.
That would certainly have been a link, as the 124 Sport Spiders were definitely used in competition rallying back in the day. Not sure about Fiats in general in New Zealand to be honest, sir!
No need to panic Joseph with the doors closing ..it's um ...a convertible..🙂
I still like to be cautious, sir...
It's great to see a Fiat version rather than the Abarth which seem to vastly out number them.
Ive never been able to get a definitive answer but have always suspected the Fiat may have focused a little more on style and comfort than the Abarth which I would expect prioritises performance.
It is a pretty looking car and I think will only look better and better as it ages. The interior is very MX-5 though but I don't think that is any real hardship.
It's very strange that this country seems to have had more Abarth 124s sold than the Fiat version, but checking the figures reveals around 2600 Fiat 124 Spiders and 1750 Abarth 124 Spiders of this shape, so these are more common, but perhaps don't come out very much. This was more my kind of car than the Abarth, I think, and I rather liked it. The design was right first time, that is for sure.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Im.wkth you on favouring this version over the Abarth.
You may be into something about the Abarth owners getting out more with their cars as the 595/695 owners come out on mass, rain or shine.
@@markonmotoring , that's probably it, sir!
@10:40 that is the area where the NAV chip goes.
Thank you ever so much indeed!
The used one of these will start to make more and more sense (hence I'm quiet as I'm waiting). In the current crazy used car market, for a similar price (ie. Lusso at 11k), you will only get the earliest MX-5 ND 1.5 with higher mileage and older age, not to mention likely the SE spec which doesn't even have parking sensors (and Nav was optional) or padded dashboard unlike the Lusso. (You can occasionally get a very high mileage 2.0 early ND1 which is known to have gearbox issues, while the 124 does not due to using the NC box). This is of course before even counting the fact that 1.5 has less power&torque (reviewers in the early days all compared to the 2.0 160 ND1, which was quite unfair). On top of these, you also get the bonus of extra boot space and exclusivity.
Yes, this car will probably have risen in value a bit since I tested it 18 months ago. The secondhand market is already showing signs of dropping (I released a video about this last week), but for certain cars, the prices are holding quite firm. I have tested all other generations of MX-5, so an ND should be on the cars at some point.
I drove an Abarth version of this car. Great fun but sounded better than it went. The seat unfortunately gave me a bad back.
Sorry to hear about the bad back, Simone, that doesn't sound like much fun at all...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting ah it's ok. I felt like I had been folded in half. The seats in the car were so hard I don't advise driving the Abarth version for long at all.
@@CortinasAndClassics , the seats in this one were perfectly fine, the Abarths must have different ones in them.
To the best of my knowledge, MX-5s have almost always been NA. Any turbos or rotaries have just been factory prototypes or customized cars.
I think you are right, sir, as far as the UK market cars go anyway.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting In some ways, Mazda seemed to be trying to copy the Toyota 86/Subaru BR-Z market rival, make two versions of the same car! I am also reminded of the less fondly remembered Alfa Romeo Arna/Nissan Cherry Europe of the 1980s.
@@alaricbragg7843 , we do remember the Arna and Nissan Cherry Europe, sir. Exceptionally rare cars over here.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Amazingly this is not the only time that a Japanese Sports Car was used this way. In the 1970s a US company produced the Scarab, which was a Datsun 240Z with a GM V8 in it! These cars were dynamite and are regarded as classic. In 1999 a customising firm in Australia produced a Series One MX-5 with a tube frame front end housing a Lexus V8!
@@alaricbragg7843 , not heard of the Scarab, sir! Does sound most intriguing, I must say... The MX-5 is one of the most customised cars I have seen, along with the BMW Z3.
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Improving, sir, it would seem!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thank you for the words of encouragement kind sir. I am still not on the podium so a little disappointed with my performance.....
@@nickyboy. , you have another chance tomorrow at 5pm, sir!