They literally aren’t this is just clickbait and bs based on the fact that development is over for MCC. Like duh. It was coming. The servers are still up and we will get a new collection in like 3 or 4 years everyone needs to smoke some weed and chill
That’s how they get you, they drown you in misery and lies that you just eventually forget. I still remember Halo Online, and how they hired and then promptly fired the people who made that after they used them for nothing more than tokenism. They don’t respect anyone. Maybe abandoning these games is for the best. If it ain’t broke, or it’s less broke, don’t fix it.
At this point when it comes to halo, it’s basically a shell of its former glory as long as 343 and Microsoft hold the rights to halo we will never get something as passion filled or groundbreaking as old halo ever again
This franchise depresses me. It drove away the fantasy that helped build halo, destroyed the narrative, and copies every franchise except halo. And the worst part is the cash cows have funded Guardians and Infinite so this will continue the rot of the franchise. Halo has to be the definition for a video game fall from grace.
“Cash cows” buying stuff doesn’t change anything. If nobody bought anything there’s a chance they’ll just kill the series because it doesn’t make any money. The series either goes down the shitter further or stops completely.
they abandoned MCC without fixing stuff and they will abandon Infinite without a single update to the mediocre-at-best campaign that cost $60. fuck 343
Amen, I’ve BEEN saying this and watching people try to defend Infinite (mostly creators who make money from Halo content) is astounding. Like the game is exactly what you said a “Shell” a “husk” a bare bones experience that feels just incomplete
But at least the multiplayer is really fun, and feels like halo, I mean it's come along way since 2021 that's for damn sure. fuck 343 all you want, but I guess at least they are doing something with the game now, and it's actually pretty decent now. Just wish it was like that when it came out tbh.
@@jasperfox6821 halo was never just a multiplayer experience, and with the amount of time it took them to make this thing we should have gotten both sides of the game in a completed state, but we didn't. The fact that they had to dripfeed us content for 3 years until the multiplayer part of the game reached an acceptable state is not a saving grace, it's another nail in the coffin
@@jasperfox6821yea lets praise a team that took them 3 years to add stuff that should’ve been on launch, very moronic comment you just wrote boot licker
@@BrokenCircle1 If the fucking custom browser didn't require anticheat I'd be ok with MCC not getting any more updates. MCC multiplayer is garbage without that being the case.
Seems me delisting the game from my library is starting to feel increasingly more like a virtue each passing year. 343I is abandoning Halo yet they still have the gall to promote International Caunt Month and Day into their game.
@@BrokenCircle1 - 343 Industries refusing to fix the collection for several years now. - 343I spending the majority of their time promoting their woke politics (and other unnecessary holiday bloat) instead of improving the games. - 343I's very toxic fanbase who have even stalked and invaded the privacy of others who are even remotely critical or merely concerned about the future of MCC. One of my devs from my company were among the targeted particularly by the likes of two creeps named Freya and Sokolov. I think it happened on the MCC's Steam Discussion Forums during last year's Women's History Month. I couldn't deal with the mess from that company and their new fans anymore so I delisted the game. I already played them all for the final time, and I still own the classic version of Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 Vista. I still have Halo 3 for the Xbox 360 that I can just try to use on an emulator since my console succumbed to Red Ring of Death. I can manage with those instead.
@@BrokenCircle1 You're an idiot. Halo 4 was bungies plan from the start and they passed the torch to the original 343, the ones who made 4. They then started making what 5 would've been. But then microslop intervened at some point and fired all of the 4 devs, replacing them with their own shills who made the garbage that we got on 10/27/15 and everything since then. Those bastards sacrificed their own flagship franchise on the alter political correctness.😡 The teasers and trailers for 5 and MCC from e3 2013 to e3 2015, leaked concept art, the h2a intro cinematic and terminals, and the Hunt the Truth podcast all prove this. And you got your head up your ass if you think any different.😡
Microsoft is definitely to blame for rushed games and continued games being made back to back. But a lot of the fanboys can't get the big picture that the subpar shitty games they're getting is 100% to blame on 343. They are the ones literally writing the stories and making the half ass games.. I've been hating on 343 for good reason going back to 2013 and all I got was a bunch of young idiots hating on me saying "you just can't accept change"
Worst part about this is that 343i shills, I mean, "real Halo fans" aren't even mad, they're like: "yeah, it makes sense, MCC is ten years old" even though it's actually just nine and some months and four and a half of those years the collection was abandoned with little to no support. I wouldn't mind if it was only stopping releasing content, but the collection is still very flawed after all these years
Yeah i think everyone was expecting an end of service date for new content/updates, but it's clearly still needing some work to really fix up to meet the original experience.
Halo's story revolves around the decision to wipe the galaxy clean of all life, to destroy an all-consuming parasite, and re-seed life after the dust settles... I want the Halo franchise to Halo itself. "A thousand other plans tried and failed - this is the last resort"
Can’t say I’m a bit surprised at this point. Unfortunately a lot of game franchises suffer the problem of game just being abandoned and left in an un-self sustaining state. At least thanks to Insignia, we can now simply play OG Halo 2 online again like it was 20 years ago whether it be through an original Xbox or an emulator, and not have to put up with MCC’s bs.
Except Insignia isn't going to take off since it only has less than 200 people playing it now. If it isn't easily accessible like the MCC, not many people are going to bother playing it (since you have to have a modded system to play it) except for the few people that care about the OGs.
At this point I almost feel an odd sense of glee seeing this happen. It's like watching Halo finally be put to rest and out of its misery. At least Halo can live on as a good game during its Bungie days in our memories.
@@BrokenCircle1 Indeed. On console it crashes when playing H2 campaign in the remastered graphics. For me at least. All the time. Can only play it in classic graphics. Not the biggest issue but still an issue.
mcc pc is good for 1 thing campaign mods, the best thing 343 done with the franchise and probably will be the best thing they will ever do is make modding the bungie games beyond ce possible. the community does a much better job with building upon and improving upon halo and just providing more actual halo content for the franchise than 343 has in over a decade. and even then 343 still finds ways to fuck it up with the tools still having issues and mcc specific engine issues, and the complete refusal to bring that support to console or any sort of server browser at the very least for pc so you can actually find modded mp matches rather than having to find or create groups.
Yep, MCC deserves better than this. They know we are rightfully upset, it's the upper business people in charge at Microsoft deciding to disrespect and demishing MCC's potential even further. We still need more support for MCC since this is the only collection that you can play officially with modern optimizations in higher framerates on modern xbox's and PC's.
Your hope hasn’t done any good. Unless you’re willing to take some initiative, then nothing is going to happen. This is what your hope gets you. Hope is complacency, and complacency is death.
I used to manage pubs in London, did it for years and naturally became very familiar with the community. Everything was going great, till the owner sold to some rich real estate people. They came in and had no idea how to run pubs or how the hospitality industry in general works from the ground up. They bumped up prices, changed ales to more expensive ones, created a new vegan friendly menu, put in all this hipster decor (old license plates, antique chairs, that kinda crap) because they wanted to attract a wider audience whilst milking out the locals as much as they could. It worked for a few months, until the locals got fed up and the new customers up and left for the latest new pub or place to be. I quit my job shortly after this happened as they started trying to get me to work harder, even though I told them this would happen. Anyway, the point of this story is that my old pub felt like Halo, and the real estate owners are like Microsoft/343. All they saw was the potential to make money without understanding how it all actually works and why it was making money to begin with.
Halo Custom Edition, Halo 2 Cartographer and Eldewrito would still be alive if 343 didn't bring MCC to PC... I would not have a problem if those older PC versions were not still better experiences than MCC as it is now. Just give MCC to night dive. OH and BTW Halo changed gameplay direction after Halo CE, technically speaking every game after CE besides ODST isn't a true Halo game... I do not stand by that statement since it's just a technicality even if it is true.
I just hope some modder out there can implement bots for these games. It's so sad that sooner or later these games will have no one playing these iconic maps and modes
It’s really sad the state of halo. After seeing the success of Helldrivers 2, it makes me realize how bad of a fumble Microsoft had handled the Halo franchise after bungie. Unfortunately I agree with you halo is becoming irrelevant each year is passes
I'll never stop being a fan of the older Halo games(and even Halo 4, last time the series had any passion in it's storytelling) but I have come to accept that Halo is no more in the modern era, thanks to the incompetency of 343 and their disdain for the fans. I'll especially never forgive them for what they did to Cortana in writing and design, the censorship she received in 5/Infinite, she looked worse in infinite than in Halo 4(which I still think is her best design).
I’m glad they let it go. I’ve had enough of them wasting time and money on updating games that I’ve already played a million times. I say leave it be before they break it more. We have mods, so maybe we can get it fixed instead. 343 doesn’t create, they destroy. They were created by people who hated halo for the purpose of sabotaging the ip and lowering standards of quality for gaming as part of Xbox One’s launch. Unfortunately it worked. The people eventually accepted it and we paid the price.
The weapon and armor skins that were added in master chief collection are so incredibly ugly I can't believe people actually use that stuff, like the ones you used.
Yes. I've been saying that for years. At least Star Wars still has some bright moments like Mandalorian. At least Star Wars keeps its aesthetic. At least Star Wars has had more than a few good games release in the last decade.
343 is full of people who hate Halo that make Halo so if Microsoft has pulled support for MCC then it's a good thing. Microsoft needs to protect Halo as a franchise and its legacy.
@@BrokenCircle1 I would agree since I'm a bigger Halo fan than I am of SW and Aliens. The one thing I can say about SW is at least they differentiate legends continuity from Disney canon continuity. Halo has had so many needless retcons to its lore that it no longer feels like just a military sci fi series anymore like it used to.
Give the halo property to another studio that actually cares. Good Lord, the reason why I stopped playing was because of hackers and multiplayer. It's only a matter of time. It happens to Halo infinite. It's not that we don't care about halo. Literally saw somebody flying around the map shooting people and checking it out in theater mode. Whenever I want to play Halo co-op online, it's busted for the campaign
You should definitely do a video on Helldivers 2 and how it has made Halo look stupid (hell, there were even ideas for a similar ODST game floating around at 343, but were turned down in typical 343 fashion). Even the skins in that game are grounded and actually fit the gritty war settings. And on top of that the developers are incredibly based for refusing to insert "the message" into their game. In other news, have you heard about what's been going on with the absolutely disgusting company known as Sweet Baby Inc, and do you think they had any ties to 343 and Halo Infinite (considering their largest consultant is Xbox games studios)?
Yes I do think Sweetbaby had something to do with Infinite and groups like them definitely had a say in Halo 4 and 5. I don't have Helldivers 2. It is an only only game I think so I don't really like spending money on those.
@@BrokenCircle1 Not 4. 4 was bungies plan from the start and they passed the torch to the original 343, the ones who made 4. They then started making what 5 would've been. But then microslop intervened at some point and fired all of the 4 devs, replacing them with their own shills who made the garbage that we got on 10/27/15 and everything since then. Those bastards sacrificed their own flagship franchise on the alter political correctness.😡 The teasers and trailers for 5 and MCC from e3 2013 to e3 2015, leaked concept art, the h2a intro cinematic and terminals, and the Hunt the Truth podcast all prove this. And you got your head up your ass if you think any different.😡
After Halo Wars 2 I gave up. I only bought it because it had old school Halo lore. I can't stand Halo 5. Halo 4 was an interesting take but what made no sense to me was the Promethans. When I first l learned about them I thought "Wait....why didn't they use them against the Flood?" and then having the ancient humans not be from Earth really upset me. I know it's kinda a small thing but rewriting the history of the Humans was crucial in the lore. IF I remember correctly the Humans were taken to the Ark from Earth and then replanted on Earth. I'm never purchasing Infinite. I tried to play it and couldn't get past the first level. It felt so cartoonish. You felt like an 80's action star in the original games and the story had the same atmosphere. Halo 4 onwards felt......too serious, I'll never watch the tv series.
I'd buy (or pirate) MCC for the mods, file a lawsuit against 343 for infinite's false advertising, and BAM, ELITE MONEY SAVED THAT MAKE ME DROP LIKE A SANGHEILI'S JAWS! 🤑
Brudda halo 4 wasn't even that bad though, and made more improvements than it fumbled tbh. And some complaints were downright nonsense. Case in point was art style changes, as if every halo entry didn't shake up the art style anyways. As for the story?? Simply too many threads at the same time, but the core of it was foundationally halo. And honestly a very good entry when you did some further reading outside of the game (which is the flaw of halo 4's story - not explained clearly in game and doing too much at once).
Gaming rose in the 80s, had its golden age in the 90s, fell appart in the early 2000s and burned down in the 2010s. We are now in the afterglow phase before things fizzel out for good.
No, we as fans don't deserve the narcissism that we get from 343i and Microsoft as companies who are actively destroying the franchise's legacy and identity just to appease their corporate masters. There are plenty of other avenues to making their bank without it being egregiously embedded into MTX's. They have plenty of tools to fixing those kinds of problems in their games before they release, they simply chose not to because they're greedy and hungry for people to blindly hand them over money to support their corrupt corporate agenda's.
@@BrokenCircle1 Yeah that definitely is a possibility but with all the evidence and what leakers have said I think they probably did want to continue support but hey nobody really knows.
"bUt 343 dOeS cArE aBoUt HaLo, Ur JuSt A hAeTeR!" I'm really, really thankful I dropped the franchise when Halo 5 removed local co-op. I see this more of a mercy killing, and I'm thankful Halo can finally die in peace. I'll gladly still play from CE to Reach from my 360 with my friends, but I'll not miss anything 343 has done. At all.
Yep, they definitely splattered the golden egg that bungie laid after they left the halo franchise. It's sad that they destroyed this franchise's legacy and identity even further just so they can use halo as a cash cow to make money in such a disrespectful and greedy corporate attitude. What a shame.
343 knows the only way they can generate money is by micro transactions, they’re not good enough of a dev team to make an actual good halo that will sell and make revenue
I have the hope that Certain Affinity can develop a good/potentially great Halo game, made by people who care about the games in the first place. They could adapt the novels like Silent Storm, Oblivion, Shadows of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx. If they could, they could possibly make a new story that’s in line with old school Bungie and not like 343
At least I hope the community keeps MCC alive. Sadly we dont have much of an alternative in enjoying real halo anymore, both in regards to the shut down console originals and the lack of original PC ports. I dont want Halo to become an unplayable, unaccessable memory, and I'm sure we can all agree on that. It's time to stand up for ourselves instead of being doomers.
@@BrokenCircle1 seems like a good market roasting shills n fanboys but people are scared of backlash ill make a Channel one day I dont care about a youtube career just the truth money is overrated
Play the Bungie Halo games that have fan services like insignia for Halo 2 on the original Xbox or sunrise for Halo 3/Reach on the Xbox 360, but personally I do play MCC from time to time if its mods or the campaigns, sometimes for multiplayer but that doesn’t cut the fact that the original port of those games beat MCC
If the leak was from the Riddler, then it's pretty much confirmed. His leaks with Pokemon have almost 100% accuracy, but that's probably because he works at Game Freak, not 343.
Console player here: Xbox Series X does crash from time to time but it's not to the point where it's much of an issue. Xbox One however, having the new skins/armor enabled in the settings crashes the game frequently. I'm not sure what it's like for other games in the collection as I mostly play Halo 3.
3:00 that's a lie, a friend of mine told me H2A has some weird bug where the graphics literally turn into code, like no texture at all, plus crashing and audio problems not present on the PC. It's an Xbox Series S btw, not Xbox One 😂
So I wake up this morning and see on my Twitter/X feed that Project ElDewrito has made a resurgence. Well that was something I wasn't expecting to see. But that goes to show how piss poorly MCC has been handled. Why is it that fanartists and modders can "Make Halo Great Again" but Microsoft and 343 cannot?
While this video was mostly on MCC, it did touch on how I feel about 343's "Halo" in general. The show, all of 343's games, etc etc; Do not feel like Halo atmospherically, story-wise, and gameplay-wise. I cringe so hard whenever people say that "Halo is back." or "Infinite is good now". In my opinion, Infinite is not good now, nor will it ever be because the core gameplay mechanics are trash and feel nothing like Halo. I literally installed and played Infinite two days ago after not playing in months, got 20 seconds into a match and immediately uninstalled. It just doesn't feel like nor play like Halo. Regarding the lore, similar sentiments are shared. 343 wanted to make Halo into their own thing, it's just that their own thing wasn't very good yet they still have built a fanbase that will defend their works at all costs. Most content creators, even those whom were critical in the past, say that "Infinite is good now" and I feel like I am living in crazy town and that the Halo "community" is huffing on a big tank of copium. I've lamented Phil Spencer for a long time. While he oversees all of Xbox, the fact that he could allow Halo to fall to these depths and still be lorded as some sort of gaming saint, is beyond me. Thanks for the video and congrats on the marriage.
I believe halo could be revived one day but this is just a tragedy I really think one day maybe even bungee or someone should pick it up remake halo 4 and go from there.
Played the console version of MCC way longer than the PC port. No, the console version does not work better. Consistent crashes during splitscreen campaign, weird visual glitches during cutscenes (especially for H2A), and it was impossible to collect armor pieces or whatever was on their skeleton store page. MCC was a broken mess on console same as PC and I only mentioned the issues I came across for campaigns and the store page.
Oh wow. Didn't know it was still that bad over there. Actually some of that stuff sounds worse. Like I said I haven't played console in a few years but thanks for sharing.
My dad told me the most ass backwards thing I've ever heard was the reason for 343, over bungie. (My dad works for the "International Corporation Microsoft", not the "Microsoft Gaming Division", but he had friends in the Xbox/Gaming division. Microsoft is split up into multiple pieces because it is such a massive company (so there's a distinction to make). Specifically, it's based on scale and who they're selling to, consumers, companies, investors, governments/public servants, or internationally.) "They hired the people who didn't like halo so they could make halo better for the people who didn't like halo." (Also, giving people turns, it seems so far 5 games is the max any studio will be given. So, they probably only have 1 or 2 games they're permitted to create after this.) But the end result is that no one likes halo because bungie was able to appeal to almost everyone, so only those extremely niche and super simplistic people would be interested in the product after this point, or people who couldn't forget why they loved halo to begin with and were too attached to let go. Let's not just hope for a light at the end of the tunnel, and make sure it's better this time around, and truly making it something worth hoping for.
@@BrokenCircle1 They have enough of an audience for a few million people still, and they're still profitable, I think it will last long enough for another studio to come in. The biggest problem is that it's not a growing endeavor or creating anything that is increasing revenue or sustainable income. If I had to choose a studio for halo, it would have to be either id software, or the people who did Space Hulk: Deathwing (enhanced edition). I think id software is owned by Bethesda, so they already have that avenue open, and thinking about it, it's extremely likely we might get id software in the next 4 years.
@@BrokenCircle1You say this as if they’re not getting stupid amounts of money from the cosmetics and that their merch, tv show, and other monetized avenues aren’t doing well. I was one of the mongoloids who gave a TON of money to them for the skins…they exist. I think that alone is good enough for another game to be made.
@@D00dman they also have to pay the people a wage to make the content. You probably pay 1 or 2 peoples wages by doing so depending on how much it is. The ip was rented out to paramount, so they don't make money off of the show, but off of selling someone a lisence to use the ip. Also, I haven't heard much about the animated halo series, is it good? I always played the games, but after reach the story just felt different to me, and I couldn't tell if they over complicated it, or they over simplified it. I would play the campaign for the story, and it was a good story, but it seems they just wanted people to play mp like another call of duty that no one would invest any thought into. Bungie filled out everything with 3 being the culmination of the ideas, and reach being the expansion of ideas. Odst was a alternate look at things, and halo 2 was cleaning up and improving things from halo. With 343, they tried to pretend they were bungie already, they used core ip pieces and went their own direction with things instead of expanding upon old concepts. They were just surface level emulation of what bungie was doing, and only once they got to infinite did they start to just barely understand what a halo game is, and how bungie was looking at things, and now at this point I can say they can start to make things and expand upon them and continue and bring life to the legacy. I still have some major issues with the weapon, she's either a really simplified and weak willed cortana, or she's not really helping you and she has alternative goals. I just don't appreciate the way it was done, and her lines are just really cheesy or just low quality writing, she just doesn't have anything below a surface level, and if she did it's pretty much going to be a retcon or a "we forgot" which just tells you they suck at writing and re-writing to add complexity or depth to characters, or to create a more honed piece of work. I do appreciate the realistic grenades, vehicles, and weaponry, but realism isn't exactly what I want, it's semi realism. Also, when did voice lines and stuff stop having deeper meanings or double meanings, like in Disney I would go back and watch them and say "they really said that!" but now it just doesn't exist, people aren't sneaking funny shit in the movies anymore, people aren't adding a different backwards vocal for a flood music track, and people aren't being independent and taking any kinds of risk even if it could be a cool addition. People just fill the quota, there's no passion and everyone's living like the end is going to be tomorrow like nothings ever going to get better, but that's the problem, no one is trying to make things better even at a risk so nothing changes. Hopefully this gets turned around quickly and games will have life again.
I play MCC on Xbox series X, and I can confirm the game is anything but fixed as whenever I replay any campaign, I have about an 80% chance the game will crash randomly and kick to dashboard, the achievement Throne of Bones is unobtainable as the elite with the skull never spawns in the Halo 2 mission Outskirts and competitive multiplayer playlists never find any matches at all staying stuck on searching although that last one might be because there's just not enough players interested in order to fill a full lobby.
It's not exactly bad news, IMO everything is going to shit. A few key companies knew this and kept it quite a while back started shutting down and keeping money to themselves instead of building and developing. The fact is games are dying because the world is changing, they want us toxic and separated, why? Because in the end they have to have a reason to kill off online gaming for the sake of the wallets they've lined from gamers grossly forgetting the basic fact they only care about the money. You don't give an abuser a reason to stay they only care if you want to.
The gaming industry is dying because a very powerful group decided to destroy it. It's not a coincidence all beloved gaming franchises are going down the dumpster at the same time.
Ill be honest. I think in general Xbox is slowly dying. Halo, its biggest IP and the face of the brand finally choking out is the biggest sign of it. Many of my friends sold their xboxes to either build or buy a pc, or upgrade to a PS5 so they can play Helldivers 2.
@BrokenCircle1 same. I also really want a sequel to the DmC reboot. Honestly surprised they haven't ported all their older games but then again they're a bit too obsessed with the RE remakes rn lol
Everyone remember how they shut down the old servers for the Halo games because MCC exists? And yet the MCC is still super broken. They didn't even just shut down the servers, they delisted their own flagship series from their own storefront.
Halo envoy was enjoyable to me, I like the detail it brings to the franchise but I understand why so may not like it, it seems to me that some people want only a small part of the franchise to be explored i.e. master chief, the Spartans and not much else and the only problem i see with that is it would be easy to run that well dry, i.e. run out of ideas. In the main line games i want to see master chiefs perspective and interactions with the halo universe and in smaller side games and other media i like to see the richness of the halo universe explored, i like the politicking in ONI and the interactions between humanity and other species after the war, all of these things IMO have a place in the franchise if done well. All in all i have enjoyed a lot of the books but none of the 343 games, Halo Wars is pretty good but 4,5 and infinite all fall well short of being a Halo game and their lack of ability to just look the bungies games for inspirations and examples is disturbing. 343 and Microsoft have a lot to answer for.
I like seeing other parts of the franchise explored but the trouble is that the modern books ONLY seem to every explore side stories. Envoy may have told us some interesting information but there is no denying the main plotline was ripped straight out of a marvel movie. Strange because the author Tobias Buckell also wrote the Cole Protocol which is one of the classics and also a side story. Quite well written that one I personally loved it. I was so disappointed reading envoy because it really did not remotely come close to living up to Cole Protocol.
Did you know there is a [xbox360] Halo 3 (and I think Reach has something like it as well now) private server called Sunrise? A player wih a modded xbox 360 has the mod and is the lobby host and the others who can be either modded console or have a stock console can be in their lobby and play match making. Also Custom Games still work fine. Halo CE and 2 have system link multiplayer with Xlink Kai for the original Xbox and I think there is work on going to get Halo 2 Xbox live servers working with Insignia. Really wish the [formerly modded, i nuked the mod by accident] original xbox I bought awhile ago didn't have a borked xbox live menu...
I like to call it how I see it over here. I'm not looking for sponsorship deals or early access to the next release. I'm not a spineless weak willed man either that will accept whatever is given to him. Sadly though much of the Halo community falls into that category.
You're surprised? The Halo community would thank 343 for chopping their balls off. Infinite is still a trash fire and heavily monetized, yet they Halo community wants YOU to say "sorry" to 343. All because FINALLY, after YEARS, the game has as many features post launch as Halo Reach did AT LAUNCH. Which is somehow acceptable
It boils down to if your truly a halo fan or not. And clearly 343i paid those people to be forcefully positive to a incredibly shallow halo game that isn't truly halo.
@@BrokenCircle1 Its sad in general. Too many games now are excused for being shipped broken, buggy and unfinished at launch, but somehow the cash shop functions JUST FINE. Too many people trying to use the "No Man's Sky" situation for every developer. I STILL remember that H4 leak stream, seeing the final boss killed in a goddamn QTE. I had always considered the Tartarus fight in H2 bad, but the QTE "Press X to shove grenade" topped it for "Shittiest boss fight"
They could add 5 fully to the pc. Only forge is there to my knowledge. As dlc to justify monetization, I guess it was forever stuck on the console. Honestly, I think it's for the best the franchise finally is put to rest with Microsoft pulling out the console market and the devs not making the game right. Halo is being made by committee not devs want to createa awesome game they want to play. Maybe the games will be ported or remade for other platforms like the switch or the Playstation. Oh well Rip Halo you where good to me
It didn't had to be so with what Microsoft or 343i done to the franchise, but unfortunately they did all of this just so they can stay relevant to modern gaming that has dumb low standards so their can make their money with bare minimum effort for people to buy their garbage product.
Halo isn't made for us no more. And that's a good thing. Because Halo isn't made for us no more. It's made now for the fortnite and tik tok generation who don't know how credit cards work. I hope they have fun.
I personally wish that Microsoft comes to know what the players want a good halo and they have been on somewhat of a good track record of this with making good choices for players and maybe one day they’ll know that people want halo still just not 343 halo
You’re welcome. Congratulations on getting married. Hopefully that works out well for you. Also, on a different video you said that you’ve mostly been busy and that’s why you haven’t uploaded or responded to people for a while. I remember for a while I didn’t want to believe that Microsoft abandoned Halo. I also bought into the hype around Infinite because all these people who were previously very critical of 343 were singing its praises before launch. Now we know about stuff like the Forerunners program. More on the topic of 343 and Microsoft being beyond incompetent and out of touch, with the EXPLOSIVE success of HellDivers 2 people have been saying we should get a Halo version with ODSTs. In response several ex-343 devs responded with hints that at one point they wanted that. One of the guys who worked there for 12 years came out and said that while he was there they pitched 20-30 Halo games, and one of them was VERY similar to HellDivers 2. 343’s leadership and Microsoft shot it down. Now you have Phill Spencer sperging out about how it’s bad for the game to be exclusive to PlayStation (and pc), when he and the rest of Microsoft should instead be introspective about this. I really hope they’re kicking themselves right now. They’ve also fumbled Gears of War, Rare, and now that they’ve purchased Activision Blizzard they’ll most likely make that even worse.
@@shreksnow1918 Thanks. Yeah I heard about the Helldivers stuff. Sad. With Microsoft acquiring more things the future of mainstream gaming looks bleaker than ever.
If I may pitch in, the closest we ever got to Helldivers was Spartan Ops in Halo 4. You could see the phantom of what Helldivers 2 is today back in H4 Spartan Ops, but it was poorly executed like basically everything else 343 has tried to do.All I can do now is dream about how awesome a Halo ODST 2 would have been on a vast map with covenant patrols prowling around.@@shreksnow1918
At this point I'm starting to feel like it's better to just NOT give your creations to ANY corporation (unless they prove without a shadow of a doubt to be down to earth at their core). While it may be cheaper, at least there's a higher chance that any passion and humanity imbued within will remain once all is said and done.
Ive moved on to other games because ive accepted that halo has lost its identity and microsoft has lost their minds. ill still play the good old halo games but going foward halo is through sadly, thank you for not being one of those shills who act like everything is great and halo is doing fantastic.
It's also the people who buy into these gimmicks and stupidity for these companies to continue selling more and more of. We should stop pulling out our wallets, and put your money where you feel most valued by whatever game or company that does actually care about the game's they create.
The exchange hasn't had new stuff in it since the H2A skin update and since then I haven't got the rhine armour from season 6 and people can't get the halo 2 skins, poses, weapon skins from previous seasons e.g. white halo 3 sniper rifle and hell they never brought the past season rewards into the exchange. I've had enough so I have uninstalled it. Like I'd said in a previous comment end times folks time to find a new favourite game.
I thought they dropped this last summer, and Infinite was honestly dropped after forge came out. It's been forge maps and cosmetics for a over a year now.
MCC on console is still broken H2A campaign runs horribly, half my shots feel like they do nothing in Halo 3 and there’s far more than just that I’m too sick of to drone on about also for example not even a single Battlefield game (pre 2042) released in this bad a state on day one As MCC 9 years later and even then old Dice were able to fix it more or less completely within a couple of months
Halo literally kept me alive during my childhood. It was the only good part of my crappy childhood. I cried when Bungie left haha. Bungie Halo is the only Halo that exists in my canon and the 343 shit just…. I don’t even know. 343 to me is a character from the original trilogy. The Monitor of Installation 04 and 04B. The company doesn’t exist lol. 343’s stories (not halo 5 tho) could exist in and be part of Bungie lore as it was meant to be but they didn’t want to be Halo.
Yeah, I’ve given up on Halo and anyone who still has hope “is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded.” Tired of kids who didn’t grow up with the game telling me I’m wrong for being upset with how this game I’ve known for 20 of the 26 years I’ve been alive has grown cancerous and tumorous. Tired of the constant political pandering. Tired of the “wholesome” culture that 343 keeps propagating, even though their public relations team is some of the most antisocial terminally online maroons available. Tired of the Halo plots just getting progressively more and more horrible. I’m just… Tired. I miss the old days; playing the Halo: Combat Evolved demo on my dad’s work computer in 2003, then getting into Halo: Custom Edition after getting and playing the campaign later on. My dad bringing home an Xbox 360 in 2008 and my brothers and I getting some Halo 3 action in, then my buddies in middle school and high school with ODST, Reach, and then kinda 4. 5 and Guardians have been awful, and 343 throughout has been miserable to deal with time and time again. I used to think that maybe I was just getting older, but it truly is everyone else not getting what Halo was instead of it being just us being some washed up, grouchy game boomers.
I can’t get a group of friends together to play matchmaking without someone getting DC’d every game and getting quit banned. We just all stopped trying.
Dude starting this year I promised myself before becoming an adult I would get every single single player achievement in MCC well now I can't do that because the achievement called George can't have all the big guns won't work for me and then that was when I lost the motivation
The death of halo saddens me so much. Halo 2 and 3 were and still are some of my favorite games of all time. Everyone had halo 3 way back when, it was literally my social networking service since I didn’t have a phone. My problems started with reach multiplayer, 4 multiplayer I got into but could admit it wasn’t the same. And 5 was the fucking last straw. That’s the game I literally got an Xbox one for. Halo infinite had promise, but the multiplayer beta just being essentially season 1 pissed me off that I didn’t try the campaign until recently. And all the aggressive monetization, fuck no. Even the infinite campaign…it has no atmosphere. Halo was ALL atmosphere, even 4 had a “vibe”. And infinite just feels so sterile, between the weird “cutscenes” with just cringey mocap performances to the settings all being 3 biomes, I’m just done. There’s only 2 human faces in infinite, and both look fucking horrible. Halo 4 has great facial animations, made by 343 on Xbox 360 in 2012, what the fuck happened? Halo and Pokémon were my jams since I was in the single digit age bracket, and the downfall of both of those franchises, at a similar time and trajectory, is just a little too much for me.
Now the gate has been unlatched, headstones pushed aside; corpses shift and offer room, a fate you must abide. Welcome to the graveyard. Here we have Mechwarrior,Starsiege,and many many other titles have gone to die.
How could Microsoft let halo (the same game that made their Xbox, one of the most popular consoles out there) just die like this. Pathetic.
Because unfortunatley the shady tactics 343 uses makes enough money to justify the continuation of the current trends.
@@BrokenCircle1 Halo died on 10/27/15.
Halo is dead it just doesn’t know it
They literally aren’t this is just clickbait and bs based on the fact that development is over for MCC. Like duh. It was coming. The servers are still up and we will get a new collection in like 3 or 4 years everyone needs to smoke some weed and chill
Where have you been??
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Their failure to safeguard Halo was a colossal failure
Yes that it was.
It was heresy
Give em the mark of shame!
Nay it was heresy!
"Nay! It was heresy!"
We never did get the enchanced Reach elite customization that they promised
I forgot about that.
That’s how they get you, they drown you in misery and lies that you just eventually forget. I still remember Halo Online, and how they hired and then promptly fired the people who made that after they used them for nothing more than tokenism. They don’t respect anyone. Maybe abandoning these games is for the best. If it ain’t broke, or it’s less broke, don’t fix it.
Wait they fired them?????@@3ofSpades
@@BrokenCircle1 From what I heard a few years ago they never even hired them in the first place.
@@BrokenCircle1 And MCC is shit with the custom browser requiring anicheat.😡
At this point when it comes to halo, it’s basically a shell of its former glory as long as 343 and Microsoft hold the rights to halo we will never get something as passion filled or groundbreaking as old halo ever again
Sad but true.
Well hopefully bungies next new installments are good because as long as 343 makes halo im done with xbox
@@Valkyrae123 I wouldn’t hold out hope for Bungie if I were you man.
Halo is dead it just doesn’t know it
Modern Bungie is horrendous.@@Valkyrae123
This franchise depresses me. It drove away the fantasy that helped build halo, destroyed the narrative, and copies every franchise except halo. And the worst part is the cash cows have funded Guardians and Infinite so this will continue the rot of the franchise. Halo has to be the definition for a video game fall from grace.
Yes. I feel the same way.
“Cash cows” buying stuff doesn’t change anything. If nobody bought anything there’s a chance they’ll just kill the series because it doesn’t make any money. The series either goes down the shitter further or stops completely.
Just like Call of Duty, Mass Effect, Battlefield, Wolfenstein, and other franchises now lost to time.
they abandoned MCC without fixing stuff and they will abandon Infinite without a single update to the mediocre-at-best campaign that cost $60. fuck 343
Yup.
Amen, I’ve BEEN saying this and watching people try to defend Infinite (mostly creators who make money from Halo content) is astounding. Like the game is exactly what you said a “Shell” a “husk” a bare bones experience that feels just incomplete
But at least the multiplayer is really fun, and feels like halo, I mean it's come along way since 2021 that's for damn sure. fuck 343 all you want, but I guess at least they are doing something with the game now, and it's actually pretty decent now. Just wish it was like that when it came out tbh.
@@jasperfox6821 halo was never just a multiplayer experience, and with the amount of time it took them to make this thing we should have gotten both sides of the game in a completed state, but we didn't. The fact that they had to dripfeed us content for 3 years until the multiplayer part of the game reached an acceptable state is not a saving grace, it's another nail in the coffin
@@jasperfox6821yea lets praise a team that took them 3 years to add stuff that should’ve been on launch, very moronic comment you just wrote boot licker
Eldewrito was so much better than MCC its insane. 343i and M$ couldn't measure up to a free mod by a couple bros.
And that's why they shut it down. They knew they couldn't compete.
@@BrokenCircle1 343i also tried to pretend they didn't want it closed down
I remember that. @@FlamespeedyAMV
@@BrokenCircle1 If the fucking custom browser didn't require anticheat I'd be ok with MCC not getting any more updates. MCC multiplayer is garbage without that being the case.
Passion > Mass Production
Seems me delisting the game from my library is starting to feel increasingly more like a virtue each passing year. 343I is abandoning Halo yet they still have the gall to promote International Caunt Month and Day into their game.
What made you delist it?
@@BrokenCircle1
- 343 Industries refusing to fix the collection for several years now.
- 343I spending the majority of their time promoting their woke politics (and other unnecessary holiday bloat) instead of improving the games.
- 343I's very toxic fanbase who have even stalked and invaded the privacy of others who are even remotely critical or merely concerned about the future of MCC. One of my devs from my company were among the targeted particularly by the likes of two creeps named Freya and Sokolov. I think it happened on the MCC's Steam Discussion Forums during last year's Women's History Month.
I couldn't deal with the mess from that company and their new fans anymore so I delisted the game. I already played them all for the final time, and I still own the classic version of Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 Vista. I still have Halo 3 for the Xbox 360 that I can just try to use on an emulator since my console succumbed to Red Ring of Death. I can manage with those instead.
Isn't it weird how mods for halo work better than the original games on mcc
I love how how a bunch of 343 shills are only blaming Microsoft and letting 343 get off scot free some things never change 😂.
That's why I say towards the end it isn't just Microsoft.
@@BrokenCircle1 You're an idiot. Halo 4 was bungies plan from the start and they passed the torch to the original 343, the ones who made 4. They then started making what 5 would've been. But then microslop intervened at some point and fired all of the 4 devs, replacing them with their own shills who made the garbage that we got on 10/27/15 and everything since then. Those bastards sacrificed their own flagship franchise on the alter political correctness.😡 The teasers and trailers for 5 and MCC from e3 2013 to e3 2015, leaked concept art, the h2a intro cinematic and terminals, and the Hunt the Truth podcast all prove this. And you got your head up your ass if you think any different.😡
Microsoft is definitely to blame for rushed games and continued games being made back to back.
But a lot of the fanboys can't get the big picture that the subpar shitty games they're getting is 100% to blame on 343.
They are the ones literally writing the stories and making the half ass games..
I've been hating on 343 for good reason going back to 2013 and all I got was a bunch of young idiots hating on me saying "you just can't accept change"
@@Wuunderboy 343 shills honestly that don’t make any sense to me for a number of reasons😂.
Glazing a corporation must be quite a sad life to live
Microsoft abandoned Halo’s legacy a long time ago.
Yep. Its why OG Bungie jumped ship flipping off Microsoft
343i/Microsoft are trash.
Worst part about this is that 343i shills, I mean, "real Halo fans" aren't even mad, they're like: "yeah, it makes sense, MCC is ten years old" even though it's actually just nine and some months and four and a half of those years the collection was abandoned with little to no support.
I wouldn't mind if it was only stopping releasing content, but the collection is still very flawed after all these years
Yeah i think everyone was expecting an end of service date for new content/updates, but it's clearly still needing some work to really fix up to meet the original experience.
I hate that the fact it stopped getting supported because it had no microtransactions
Halo's story revolves around the decision to wipe the galaxy clean of all life, to destroy an all-consuming parasite, and re-seed life after the dust settles... I want the Halo franchise to Halo itself.
"A thousand other plans tried and failed - this is the last resort"
I only play MCC. I refuse to play any other halo game.
Based
Same, I haven't touched Halo 5 in years and I cant really bring myself to care about Infinite.
Can’t say I’m a bit surprised at this point. Unfortunately a lot of game franchises suffer the problem of game just being abandoned and left in an un-self sustaining state.
At least thanks to Insignia, we can now simply play OG Halo 2 online again like it was 20 years ago whether it be through an original Xbox or an emulator, and not have to put up with MCC’s bs.
Cool!
Insignia sucks tbh. MCC all the way.
Have you tried it yet? I might buy an original xbox again and hop on. If it's good that is. Dont wanna waste my time or money @@jasperfox6821
@@jasperfox6821 Isnignia launched today, what are you on about?
Except Insignia isn't going to take off since it only has less than 200 people playing it now. If it isn't easily accessible like the MCC, not many people are going to bother playing it (since you have to have a modded system to play it) except for the few people that care about the OGs.
At this point I almost feel an odd sense of glee seeing this happen. It's like watching Halo finally be put to rest and out of its misery. At least Halo can live on as a good game during its Bungie days in our memories.
But Infinite still exists. So does the awful TV show. They still control it. Frankly I kind of hope Microsoft puts Halo on indefinite hiatus.
There's always fan made stuff to enjoy, but the main games are well beyond buried.
They still haven’t fixed the audio campaign for Halo 2 (classic)
There are loads of things that still aren't fixed.
@@BrokenCircle1 Indeed. On console it crashes when playing H2 campaign in the remastered graphics. For me at least. All the time. Can only play it in classic graphics. Not the biggest issue but still an issue.
@@nik271290 That is a big issue considering a main feature of the game was H2A...
mcc pc is good for 1 thing
campaign mods, the best thing 343 done with the franchise and probably will be the best thing they will ever do is make modding the bungie games beyond ce possible.
the community does a much better job with building upon and improving upon halo and just providing more actual halo content for the franchise than 343 has in over a decade.
and even then 343 still finds ways to fuck it up with the tools still having issues and mcc specific engine issues, and the complete refusal to bring that support to console or any sort of server browser at the very least for pc so you can actually find modded mp matches rather than having to find or create groups.
MCC has some of the worst mod support I've ever seen. Not that it is the worst just the worst I've seen.
Yep, MCC deserves better than this. They know we are rightfully upset, it's the upper business people in charge at Microsoft deciding to disrespect and demishing MCC's potential even further.
We still need more support for MCC since this is the only collection that you can play officially with modern optimizations in higher framerates on modern xbox's and PC's.
You're completely right I'm still going to hold out hope that they might fix some stuff with MCC,
Your hope hasn’t done any good. Unless you’re willing to take some initiative, then nothing is going to happen. This is what your hope gets you. Hope is complacency, and complacency is death.
Halo is dead it just doesn’t know it
@@oceanmantakemebythehand3965 🎅🎅🐡🥕
When you go to the store and look at soda boxes and chips you don’t see master chiefs face anymore you see Doomguys
I used to manage pubs in London, did it for years and naturally became very familiar with the community. Everything was going great, till the owner sold to some rich real estate people. They came in and had no idea how to run pubs or how the hospitality industry in general works from the ground up. They bumped up prices, changed ales to more expensive ones, created a new vegan friendly menu, put in all this hipster decor (old license plates, antique chairs, that kinda crap) because they wanted to attract a wider audience whilst milking out the locals as much as they could. It worked for a few months, until the locals got fed up and the new customers up and left for the latest new pub or place to be. I quit my job shortly after this happened as they started trying to get me to work harder, even though I told them this would happen.
Anyway, the point of this story is that my old pub felt like Halo, and the real estate owners are like Microsoft/343. All they saw was the potential to make money without understanding how it all actually works and why it was making money to begin with.
Halo Custom Edition, Halo 2 Cartographer and Eldewrito would still be alive if 343 didn't bring MCC to PC... I would not have a problem if those older PC versions were not still better experiences than MCC as it is now.
Just give MCC to night dive.
OH and BTW Halo changed gameplay direction after Halo CE, technically speaking every game after CE besides ODST isn't a true Halo game... I do not stand by that statement since it's just a technicality even if it is true.
I just hope some modder out there can implement bots for these games. It's so sad that sooner or later these games will have no one playing these iconic maps and modes
It’s really sad the state of halo. After seeing the success of Helldrivers 2, it makes me realize how bad of a fumble Microsoft had handled the Halo franchise after bungie. Unfortunately I agree with you halo is becoming irrelevant each year is passes
I'll never stop being a fan of the older Halo games(and even Halo 4, last time the series had any passion in it's storytelling) but I have come to accept that Halo is no more in the modern era, thanks to the incompetency of 343 and their disdain for the fans.
I'll especially never forgive them for what they did to Cortana in writing and design, the censorship she received in 5/Infinite, she looked worse in infinite than in Halo 4(which I still think is her best design).
Great vid man. Hope the 343 fan boys see this and wake up.
Thanks for the compliment but sadly they wont. I'm sure in a bit they will all arrive and bash this video left right and center.
cattle don't wake up. they move from one dogma to the next.
They won't. They're too busy making their little episode breakdowns on that gyid awful tv show masquerading as Halo
I’m glad they let it go. I’ve had enough of them wasting time and money on updating games that I’ve already played a million times. I say leave it be before they break it more. We have mods, so maybe we can get it fixed instead. 343 doesn’t create, they destroy. They were created by people who hated halo for the purpose of sabotaging the ip and lowering standards of quality for gaming as part of Xbox One’s launch. Unfortunately it worked. The people eventually accepted it and we paid the price.
Fair enough. Thanks for watching.
Np, thanks for making this video.
Microsoft and 343 never fail to absolutely shit on halo fans
The weapon and armor skins that were added in master chief collection are so incredibly ugly I can't believe people actually use that stuff, like the ones you used.
Despise 343
Real
Halo has honestly fallen off harder than Star Wars at this point
Yes. I've been saying that for years. At least Star Wars still has some bright moments like Mandalorian. At least Star Wars keeps its aesthetic. At least Star Wars has had more than a few good games release in the last decade.
343 is full of people who hate Halo that make Halo so if Microsoft has pulled support for MCC then it's a good thing. Microsoft needs to protect Halo as a franchise and its legacy.
Halo is suffering the same mismangement as the Star Wars and Aliens franchises.
I think it's far worse than those. They are a dumpsterfire as well but Halo is on another level.
@@BrokenCircle1 I would agree since I'm a bigger Halo fan than I am of SW and Aliens. The one thing I can say about SW is at least they differentiate legends continuity from Disney canon continuity. Halo has had so many needless retcons to its lore that it no longer feels like just a military sci fi series anymore like it used to.
Give the halo property to another studio that actually cares. Good Lord, the reason why I stopped playing was because of hackers and multiplayer. It's only a matter of time. It happens to Halo infinite. It's not that we don't care about halo. Literally saw somebody flying around the map shooting people and checking it out in theater mode. Whenever I want to play Halo co-op online, it's busted for the campaign
You should definitely do a video on Helldivers 2 and how it has made Halo look stupid (hell, there were even ideas for a similar ODST game floating around at 343, but were turned down in typical 343 fashion). Even the skins in that game are grounded and actually fit the gritty war settings. And on top of that the developers are incredibly based for refusing to insert "the message" into their game.
In other news, have you heard about what's been going on with the absolutely disgusting company known as Sweet Baby Inc, and do you think they had any ties to 343 and Halo Infinite (considering their largest consultant is Xbox games studios)?
Yes I do think Sweetbaby had something to do with Infinite and groups like them definitely had a say in Halo 4 and 5.
I don't have Helldivers 2. It is an only only game I think so I don't really like spending money on those.
@@BrokenCircle1 Not 4. 4 was bungies plan from the start and they passed the torch to the original 343, the ones who made 4. They then started making what 5 would've been. But then microslop intervened at some point and fired all of the 4 devs, replacing them with their own shills who made the garbage that we got on 10/27/15 and everything since then. Those bastards sacrificed their own flagship franchise on the alter political correctness.😡 The teasers and trailers for 5 and MCC from e3 2013 to e3 2015, leaked concept art, the h2a intro cinematic and terminals, and the Hunt the Truth podcast all prove this. And you got your head up your ass if you think any different.😡
4 just changed way too much with the art and had bad encounter/enemy designs.
@@LeMicronaut I was fine with the art change. My issue is mainly the limited ammo capacity. I don't know what they were thinking with that.
It is fr the worst time to be a Halo fan rn
Agreed. It's never been this bad.
After Halo Wars 2 I gave up. I only bought it because it had old school Halo lore. I can't stand Halo 5. Halo 4 was an interesting take but what made no sense to me was the Promethans. When I first l learned about them I thought "Wait....why didn't they use them against the Flood?" and then having the ancient humans not be from Earth really upset me. I know it's kinda a small thing but rewriting the history of the Humans was crucial in the lore. IF I remember correctly the Humans were taken to the Ark from Earth and then replanted on Earth. I'm never purchasing Infinite. I tried to play it and couldn't get past the first level. It felt so cartoonish. You felt like an 80's action star in the original games and the story had the same atmosphere. Halo 4 onwards felt......too serious, I'll never watch the tv series.
season 2 of the show is decent as a fan since 2001, i agree on the rest. humans were forerunners during the bungie era
I'd buy (or pirate) MCC for the mods, file a lawsuit against 343 for infinite's false advertising, and BAM, ELITE MONEY SAVED THAT MAKE ME DROP LIKE A SANGHEILI'S JAWS! 🤑
343 never understood Halo and never will.
Why fix bugs when you can add another Power Ranger armour set or BLM nameplate.
They didn't abandon it when putting every flavour of pride flag pin in.
True.
They should at least add a bot gamemode like in Halo Infinite because it takes forever to get into an online match
I agree!
It's time to kick Microsoft out of Halo.
If only that were possible.
Alls well that ends well.
Well Halo really ended after 3 and the rest were corpo cash grabs but hey least it finally ended.
Na Reach, odst and wars was totally worth my parents money
Brudda halo 4 wasn't even that bad though, and made more improvements than it fumbled tbh.
And some complaints were downright nonsense. Case in point was art style changes, as if every halo entry didn't shake up the art style anyways.
As for the story?? Simply too many threads at the same time, but the core of it was foundationally halo. And honestly a very good entry when you did some further reading outside of the game (which is the flaw of halo 4's story - not explained clearly in game and doing too much at once).
@@LuffyTheLabrador story wise I meant.
@tristanstebbens1358 yeah halo 4 was so good it got dlc after.
every halo after ce was a cash grab... and reach was better then 3 btw
We need to collectively come together and let 343i and Microsoft know how much we hate what they have done to Bungie's masterpiece.
Gaming rose in the 80s, had its golden age in the 90s, fell appart in the early 2000s and burned down in the 2010s. We are now in the afterglow phase before things fizzel out for good.
Hmm. Triple A gaming yes for sure. But there are still some cool indie games/smaller studios doing good work.
At this point, just busting out some OG Xbox's and getting LAN parties again. Fucking over modern gaming/companies.
The crazy fact is that 343 WANTED to continue support for MCC. what a tragedy.
'wanted to'. Did they really though? There is what they'll say openly and what they actually feel behind closed doors.
No, we as fans don't deserve the narcissism that we get from 343i and Microsoft as companies who are actively destroying the franchise's legacy and identity just to appease their corporate masters. There are plenty of other avenues to making their bank without it being egregiously embedded into MTX's. They have plenty of tools to fixing those kinds of problems in their games before they release, they simply chose not to because they're greedy and hungry for people to blindly hand them over money to support their corrupt corporate agenda's.
@@BrokenCircle1 Yeah that definitely is a possibility but with all the evidence and what leakers have said I think they probably did want to continue support but hey nobody really knows.
"bUt 343 dOeS cArE aBoUt HaLo, Ur JuSt A hAeTeR!"
I'm really, really thankful I dropped the franchise when Halo 5 removed local co-op. I see this more of a mercy killing, and I'm thankful Halo can finally die in peace. I'll gladly still play from CE to Reach from my 360 with my friends, but I'll not miss anything 343 has done. At all.
Yep, they definitely splattered the golden egg that bungie laid after they left the halo franchise.
It's sad that they destroyed this franchise's legacy and identity even further just so they can use halo as a cash cow to make money in such a disrespectful and greedy corporate attitude.
What a shame.
343 knows the only way they can generate money is by micro transactions, they’re not good enough of a dev team to make an actual good halo that will sell and make revenue
True. They take the laziest least skilled path.
I have the hope that Certain Affinity can develop a good/potentially great Halo game, made by people who care about the games in the first place. They could adapt the novels like Silent Storm, Oblivion, Shadows of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx. If they could, they could possibly make a new story that’s in line with old school Bungie and not like 343
At least I hope the community keeps MCC alive. Sadly we dont have much of an alternative in enjoying real halo anymore, both in regards to the shut down console originals and the lack of original PC ports. I dont want Halo to become an unplayable, unaccessable memory, and I'm sure we can all agree on that.
It's time to stand up for ourselves instead of being doomers.
How do you propose we stand up for ourselves?
@@BrokenCircle1 stop these shill youtubers
@@futurelama5123 And how do we do that?
@@BrokenCircle1 seems like a good market roasting shills n fanboys but people are scared of backlash ill make a Channel one day I dont care about a youtube career just the truth money is overrated
Play the Bungie Halo games that have fan services like insignia for Halo 2 on the original Xbox or sunrise for Halo 3/Reach on the Xbox 360, but personally I do play MCC from time to time if its mods or the campaigns, sometimes for multiplayer but that doesn’t cut the fact that the original port of those games beat MCC
If the leak was from the Riddler, then it's pretty much confirmed. His leaks with Pokemon have almost 100% accuracy, but that's probably because he works at Game Freak, not 343.
Console player here: Xbox Series X does crash from time to time but it's not to the point where it's much of an issue. Xbox One however, having the new skins/armor enabled in the settings crashes the game frequently. I'm not sure what it's like for other games in the collection as I mostly play Halo 3.
So I've been hearing. I guess console is quite bad.
-343 touches old, perfectly functional games
-corrupts them and makes them worse retroactively
3:00 that's a lie, a friend of mine told me H2A has some weird bug where the graphics literally turn into code, like no texture at all, plus crashing and audio problems not present on the PC. It's an Xbox Series S btw, not Xbox One 😂
Well I didn't know...I guess it's just as bad on consoles then.
I also want to point out that PC is still missing features from the Xbox version such as Splitscreen on PC.
So I wake up this morning and see on my Twitter/X feed that Project ElDewrito has made a resurgence. Well that was something I wasn't expecting to see. But that goes to show how piss poorly MCC has been handled. Why is it that fanartists and modders can "Make Halo Great Again" but Microsoft and 343 cannot?
Oh nonono 343shills what happened??
talk to the shill youtubers about that fans just have false hope
While this video was mostly on MCC, it did touch on how I feel about 343's "Halo" in general.
The show, all of 343's games, etc etc; Do not feel like Halo atmospherically, story-wise, and gameplay-wise. I cringe so hard whenever people say that "Halo is back." or "Infinite is good now". In my opinion, Infinite is not good now, nor will it ever be because the core gameplay mechanics are trash and feel nothing like Halo. I literally installed and played Infinite two days ago after not playing in months, got 20 seconds into a match and immediately uninstalled. It just doesn't feel like nor play like Halo. Regarding the lore, similar sentiments are shared.
343 wanted to make Halo into their own thing, it's just that their own thing wasn't very good yet they still have built a fanbase that will defend their works at all costs. Most content creators, even those whom were critical in the past, say that "Infinite is good now" and I feel like I am living in crazy town and that the Halo "community" is huffing on a big tank of copium.
I've lamented Phil Spencer for a long time. While he oversees all of Xbox, the fact that he could allow Halo to fall to these depths and still be lorded as some sort of gaming saint, is beyond me.
Thanks for the video and congrats on the marriage.
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I believe halo could be revived one day but this is just a tragedy I really think one day maybe even bungee or someone should pick it up remake halo 4 and go from there.
Played the console version of MCC way longer than the PC port. No, the console version does not work better. Consistent crashes during splitscreen campaign, weird visual glitches during cutscenes (especially for H2A), and it was impossible to collect armor pieces or whatever was on their skeleton store page. MCC was a broken mess on console same as PC and I only mentioned the issues I came across for campaigns and the store page.
Oh wow. Didn't know it was still that bad over there. Actually some of that stuff sounds worse. Like I said I haven't played console in a few years but thanks for sharing.
My dad told me the most ass backwards thing I've ever heard was the reason for 343, over bungie.
(My dad works for the "International Corporation Microsoft", not the "Microsoft Gaming Division", but he had friends in the Xbox/Gaming division. Microsoft is split up into multiple pieces because it is such a massive company (so there's a distinction to make). Specifically, it's based on scale and who they're selling to, consumers, companies, investors, governments/public servants, or internationally.)
"They hired the people who didn't like halo so they could make halo better for the people who didn't like halo."
(Also, giving people turns, it seems so far 5 games is the max any studio will be given. So, they probably only have 1 or 2 games they're permitted to create after this.)
But the end result is that no one likes halo because bungie was able to appeal to almost everyone, so only those extremely niche and super simplistic people would be interested in the product after this point, or people who couldn't forget why they loved halo to begin with and were too attached to let go.
Let's not just hope for a light at the end of the tunnel, and make sure it's better this time around, and truly making it something worth hoping for.
Interesting insight though I don't think Halo can survive another 2 games under 343. It's already on deaths door.
@@BrokenCircle1 They have enough of an audience for a few million people still, and they're still profitable, I think it will last long enough for another studio to come in. The biggest problem is that it's not a growing endeavor or creating anything that is increasing revenue or sustainable income.
If I had to choose a studio for halo, it would have to be either id software, or the people who did Space Hulk: Deathwing (enhanced edition).
I think id software is owned by Bethesda, so they already have that avenue open, and thinking about it, it's extremely likely we might get id software in the next 4 years.
@@BrokenCircle1You say this as if they’re not getting stupid amounts of money from the cosmetics and that their merch, tv show, and other monetized avenues aren’t doing well.
I was one of the mongoloids who gave a TON of money to them for the skins…they exist. I think that alone is good enough for another game to be made.
@@D00dman they also have to pay the people a wage to make the content. You probably pay 1 or 2 peoples wages by doing so depending on how much it is.
The ip was rented out to paramount, so they don't make money off of the show, but off of selling someone a lisence to use the ip.
Also, I haven't heard much about the animated halo series, is it good?
I always played the games, but after reach the story just felt different to me, and I couldn't tell if they over complicated it, or they over simplified it.
I would play the campaign for the story, and it was a good story, but it seems they just wanted people to play mp like another call of duty that no one would invest any thought into.
Bungie filled out everything with 3 being the culmination of the ideas, and reach being the expansion of ideas. Odst was a alternate look at things, and halo 2 was cleaning up and improving things from halo.
With 343, they tried to pretend they were bungie already, they used core ip pieces and went their own direction with things instead of expanding upon old concepts.
They were just surface level emulation of what bungie was doing, and only once they got to infinite did they start to just barely understand what a halo game is, and how bungie was looking at things, and now at this point I can say they can start to make things and expand upon them and continue and bring life to the legacy.
I still have some major issues with the weapon, she's either a really simplified and weak willed cortana, or she's not really helping you and she has alternative goals. I just don't appreciate the way it was done, and her lines are just really cheesy or just low quality writing, she just doesn't have anything below a surface level, and if she did it's pretty much going to be a retcon or a "we forgot" which just tells you they suck at writing and re-writing to add complexity or depth to characters, or to create a more honed piece of work.
I do appreciate the realistic grenades, vehicles, and weaponry, but realism isn't exactly what I want, it's semi realism.
Also, when did voice lines and stuff stop having deeper meanings or double meanings, like in Disney I would go back and watch them and say "they really said that!" but now it just doesn't exist, people aren't sneaking funny shit in the movies anymore, people aren't adding a different backwards vocal for a flood music track, and people aren't being independent and taking any kinds of risk even if it could be a cool addition. People just fill the quota, there's no passion and everyone's living like the end is going to be tomorrow like nothings ever going to get better, but that's the problem, no one is trying to make things better even at a risk so nothing changes. Hopefully this gets turned around quickly and games will have life again.
I play MCC on Xbox series X, and I can confirm the game is anything but fixed as whenever I replay any campaign, I have about an 80% chance the game will crash randomly and kick to dashboard, the achievement Throne of Bones is unobtainable as the elite with the skull never spawns in the Halo 2 mission Outskirts and competitive multiplayer playlists never find any matches at all staying stuck on searching although that last one might be because there's just not enough players interested in order to fill a full lobby.
I hope the fans are able to fork MCC PC one day and make their own version with all the necessary fixes.
It's not exactly bad news, IMO everything is going to shit. A few key companies knew this and kept it quite a while back started shutting down and keeping money to themselves instead of building and developing. The fact is games are dying because the world is changing, they want us toxic and separated, why? Because in the end they have to have a reason to kill off online gaming for the sake of the wallets they've lined from gamers grossly forgetting the basic fact they only care about the money. You don't give an abuser a reason to stay they only care if you want to.
The gaming industry is dying because a very powerful group decided to destroy it. It's not a coincidence all beloved gaming franchises are going down the dumpster at the same time.
Ill be honest. I think in general Xbox is slowly dying. Halo, its biggest IP and the face of the brand finally choking out is the biggest sign of it. Many of my friends sold their xboxes to either build or buy a pc, or upgrade to a PS5 so they can play Helldivers 2.
I hope the entire Xbox brand goes under. They have treated their players like absolute dogshit for years.
Glad I switched to Capcom. They occasionally screw up but they at least somewhat care about the games they make
I hope they make a Megaman Legends collection for PC!
@BrokenCircle1 same. I also really want a sequel to the DmC reboot.
Honestly surprised they haven't ported all their older games but then again they're a bit too obsessed with the RE remakes rn lol
You can be a fan of both you dont have to switch even they are a shell of what once was best to stick to the classics nothing to look forward to
@@futurelama5123 yeah. I kinda lost interest in Halo in general because of 343
Everyone remember how they shut down the old servers for the Halo games because MCC exists? And yet the MCC is still super broken. They didn't even just shut down the servers, they delisted their own flagship series from their own storefront.
Halo envoy was enjoyable to me, I like the detail it brings to the franchise but I understand why so may not like it, it seems to me that some people want only a small part of the franchise to be explored i.e. master chief, the Spartans and not much else and the only problem i see with that is it would be easy to run that well dry, i.e. run out of ideas. In the main line games i want to see master chiefs perspective and interactions with the halo universe and in smaller side games and other media i like to see the richness of the halo universe explored, i like the politicking in ONI and the interactions between humanity and other species after the war, all of these things IMO have a place in the franchise if done well.
All in all i have enjoyed a lot of the books but none of the 343 games, Halo Wars is pretty good but 4,5 and infinite all fall well short of being a Halo game and their lack of ability to just look the bungies games for inspirations and examples is disturbing. 343 and Microsoft have a lot to answer for.
I like seeing other parts of the franchise explored but the trouble is that the modern books ONLY seem to every explore side stories. Envoy may have told us some interesting information but there is no denying the main plotline was ripped straight out of a marvel movie.
Strange because the author Tobias Buckell also wrote the Cole Protocol which is one of the classics and also a side story. Quite well written that one I personally loved it. I was so disappointed reading envoy because it really did not remotely come close to living up to Cole Protocol.
Did you know there is a [xbox360] Halo 3 (and I think Reach has something like it as well now) private server called Sunrise? A player wih a modded xbox 360 has the mod and is the lobby host and the others who can be either modded console or have a stock console can be in their lobby and play match making. Also Custom Games still work fine. Halo CE and 2 have system link multiplayer with Xlink Kai for the original Xbox and I think there is work on going to get Halo 2 Xbox live servers working with Insignia.
Really wish the [formerly modded, i nuked the mod by accident] original xbox I bought awhile ago didn't have a borked xbox live menu...
every other channel dxck rides the company and game you don't and I love that
No they don't lol you're trippin.
@@oobermackn they do all you hear is positive after positive
I like to call it how I see it over here. I'm not looking for sponsorship deals or early access to the next release. I'm not a spineless weak willed man either that will accept whatever is given to him. Sadly though much of the Halo community falls into that category.
Perfect timing to dust off the old xbox and play some Halo 2 beta on Insignia. It dropped today.
You're surprised?
The Halo community would thank 343 for chopping their balls off. Infinite is still a trash fire and heavily monetized, yet they Halo community wants YOU to say "sorry" to 343. All because FINALLY, after YEARS, the game has as many features post launch as Halo Reach did AT LAUNCH. Which is somehow acceptable
The Halo community has alot of truly pathetic people in it.
It boils down to if your truly a halo fan or not. And clearly 343i paid those people to be forcefully positive to a incredibly shallow halo game that isn't truly halo.
@@BrokenCircle1 Its sad in general. Too many games now are excused for being shipped broken, buggy and unfinished at launch, but somehow the cash shop functions JUST FINE. Too many people trying to use the "No Man's Sky" situation for every developer.
I STILL remember that H4 leak stream, seeing the final boss killed in a goddamn QTE. I had always considered the Tartarus fight in H2 bad, but the QTE "Press X to shove grenade" topped it for "Shittiest boss fight"
They could add 5 fully to the pc. Only forge is there to my knowledge. As dlc to justify monetization, I guess it was forever stuck on the console. Honestly, I think it's for the best the franchise finally is put to rest with Microsoft pulling out the console market and the devs not making the game right. Halo is being made by committee not devs want to createa awesome game they want to play. Maybe the games will be ported or remade for other platforms like the switch or the Playstation. Oh well Rip Halo you where good to me
It didn't had to be so with what Microsoft or 343i done to the franchise, but unfortunately they did all of this just so they can stay relevant to modern gaming that has dumb low standards so their can make their money with bare minimum effort for people to buy their garbage product.
Halo isn't made for us no more. And that's a good thing. Because Halo isn't made for us no more. It's made now for the fortnite and tik tok generation who don't know how credit cards work. I hope they have fun.
honestly if it were my choice i would take halo from 343 and give it to Id Software. at least THEY work on their games.
It’s so over fire the rings 😢
I personally wish that Microsoft comes to know what the players want a good halo and they have been on somewhat of a good track record of this with making good choices for players and maybe one day they’ll know that people want halo still just not 343 halo
To those who say it's better on console, you're probably right, but disconnections are still an issue, and I can confirm as a console player.
If 343 doesn't fix the game I hope the mod community can.
You called this however many months ago
Ah. Thanks for paying attention and sticking around!
You’re welcome. Congratulations on getting married. Hopefully that works out well for you. Also, on a different video you said that you’ve mostly been busy and that’s why you haven’t uploaded or responded to people for a while.
I remember for a while I didn’t want to believe that Microsoft abandoned Halo. I also bought into the hype around Infinite because all these people who were previously very critical of 343 were singing its praises before launch. Now we know about stuff like the Forerunners program.
More on the topic of 343 and Microsoft being beyond incompetent and out of touch, with the EXPLOSIVE success of HellDivers 2 people have been saying we should get a Halo version with ODSTs. In response several ex-343 devs responded with hints that at one point they wanted that. One of the guys who worked there for 12 years came out and said that while he was there they pitched 20-30 Halo games, and one of them was VERY similar to HellDivers 2. 343’s leadership and Microsoft shot it down. Now you have Phill Spencer sperging out about how it’s bad for the game to be exclusive to PlayStation (and pc), when he and the rest of Microsoft should instead be introspective about this. I really hope they’re kicking themselves right now. They’ve also fumbled Gears of War, Rare, and now that they’ve purchased Activision Blizzard they’ll most likely make that even worse.
@@shreksnow1918 Thanks. Yeah I heard about the Helldivers stuff. Sad.
With Microsoft acquiring more things the future of mainstream gaming looks bleaker than ever.
@@BrokenCircle1So jealous of you.😭
If I may pitch in, the closest we ever got to Helldivers was Spartan Ops in Halo 4. You could see the phantom of what Helldivers 2 is today back in H4 Spartan Ops, but it was poorly executed like basically everything else 343 has tried to do.All I can do now is dream about how awesome a Halo ODST 2 would have been on a vast map with covenant patrols prowling around.@@shreksnow1918
me when i learn Microsoft canceled support for MCC: "so its gonna be like that"
"And the good news?"
@@MungoMcGhee "that was the good news...listen reach has been good to me its time i return the favor"
At this point I'm starting to feel like it's better to just NOT give your creations to ANY corporation (unless they prove without a shadow of a doubt to be down to earth at their core). While it may be cheaper, at least there's a higher chance that any passion and humanity imbued within will remain once all is said and done.
Ive moved on to other games because ive accepted that halo has lost its identity and microsoft has lost their minds. ill still play the good old halo games but going foward halo is through sadly, thank you for not being one of those shills who act like everything is great and halo is doing fantastic.
Never shilling over here.
It's also the people who buy into these gimmicks and stupidity for these companies to continue selling more and more of.
We should stop pulling out our wallets, and put your money where you feel most valued by whatever game or company that does actually care about the game's they create.
You nailed everything I had to say.
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The exchange hasn't had new stuff in it since the H2A skin update and since then I haven't got the rhine armour from season 6 and people can't get the halo 2 skins, poses, weapon skins from previous seasons e.g. white halo 3 sniper rifle and hell they never brought the past season rewards into the exchange. I've had enough so I have uninstalled it. Like I'd said in a previous comment end times folks time to find a new favourite game.
I thought they dropped this last summer, and Infinite was honestly dropped after forge came out. It's been forge maps and cosmetics for a over a year now.
Sadly that is their definition of 'support'
As for MCC though no they had been releasing bug fix updates until very recently.
@BrokenCircle1 I swear they did ONE recently, but before that it was July, maybe. There were YTers covering this around that time.
Booooo! And booooo to chat restrictions!! Freeedom!!
Really well done video, perfectly sums up what I imagine every classic halo fan has been thinking for years.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words!
MCC on console is still broken H2A campaign runs horribly, half my shots feel like they do nothing in Halo 3 and there’s far more than just that I’m too sick of to drone on about also for example not even a single Battlefield game (pre 2042) released in this bad a state on day one As MCC 9 years later and even then old Dice were able to fix it more or less completely within a couple of months
Halo literally kept me alive during my childhood. It was the only good part of my crappy childhood. I cried when Bungie left haha. Bungie Halo is the only Halo that exists in my canon and the 343 shit just…. I don’t even know. 343 to me is a character from the original trilogy. The Monitor of Installation 04 and 04B. The company doesn’t exist lol. 343’s stories (not halo 5 tho) could exist in and be part of Bungie lore as it was meant to be but they didn’t want to be Halo.
Yeah, I’ve given up on Halo and anyone who still has hope “is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded.”
Tired of kids who didn’t grow up with the game telling me I’m wrong for being upset with how this game I’ve known for 20 of the 26 years I’ve been alive has grown cancerous and tumorous. Tired of the constant political pandering. Tired of the “wholesome” culture that 343 keeps propagating, even though their public relations team is some of the most antisocial terminally online maroons available. Tired of the Halo plots just getting progressively more and more horrible. I’m just…
Tired. I miss the old days; playing the Halo: Combat Evolved demo on my dad’s work computer in 2003, then getting into Halo: Custom Edition after getting and playing the campaign later on. My dad bringing home an Xbox 360 in 2008 and my brothers and I getting some Halo 3 action in, then my buddies in middle school and high school with ODST, Reach, and then kinda 4.
5 and Guardians have been awful, and 343 throughout has been miserable to deal with time and time again. I used to think that maybe I was just getting older, but it truly is everyone else not getting what Halo was instead of it being just us being some washed up, grouchy game boomers.
Thanks for sharing your story and watching. I share the sentiment I really do.
Completely correct.
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I can’t get a group of friends together to play matchmaking without someone getting DC’d every game and getting quit banned. We just all stopped trying.
Dude starting this year I promised myself before becoming an adult I would get every single single player achievement in MCC well now I can't do that because the achievement called George can't have all the big guns won't work for me and then that was when I lost the motivation
The death of halo saddens me so much.
Halo 2 and 3 were and still are some of my favorite games of all time. Everyone had halo 3 way back when, it was literally my social networking service since I didn’t have a phone.
My problems started with reach multiplayer, 4 multiplayer I got into but could admit it wasn’t the same. And 5 was the fucking last straw. That’s the game I literally got an Xbox one for.
Halo infinite had promise, but the multiplayer beta just being essentially season 1 pissed me off that I didn’t try the campaign until recently. And all the aggressive monetization, fuck no.
Even the infinite campaign…it has no atmosphere. Halo was ALL atmosphere, even 4 had a “vibe”. And infinite just feels so sterile, between the weird “cutscenes” with just cringey mocap performances to the settings all being 3 biomes, I’m just done. There’s only 2 human faces in infinite, and both look fucking horrible. Halo 4 has great facial animations, made by 343 on Xbox 360 in 2012, what the fuck happened?
Halo and Pokémon were my jams since I was in the single digit age bracket, and the downfall of both of those franchises, at a similar time and trajectory, is just a little too much for me.
Now the gate has been unlatched, headstones pushed aside; corpses shift and offer room, a fate you must abide.
Welcome to the graveyard. Here we have Mechwarrior,Starsiege,and many many other titles have gone to die.
So this means no Splitscreen on PC, fixed campaign co-op netcode and proper multiplayer mod support...
good. now they don't have any excuses as to why they can't add the original Halo CE & Halo 2 to the digital store.