Thank you for your comment. K's formation of foundations to disseminate the Teachings has been and continues to be an amazing accomplishment. Infinte thanks to all those people in different parts of the world for so wonderfully effecting, past, present, and future, K's request. Your diligent and fastidious actualization of disseminating the Teachings is the only possibility humanity has to offset the destruction of our home planet in all its magnificent beauty, and all life on it. Infinite thanks...
I discovered this man a few months ago and damn he helped me more than anyone else’s talk, books and teaching, all his concerns are us to see the truth and nothing more, he don’t care about success , money and fame like we see nowadays with almost everyone in the teaching, spiritual and coaching field, I can see how everyone feed their ego under the name of kindness, he is formless and has no image in his mind, gratitude for his existence 🙏🏼
A few ill informed comments here about K and money. People probably read a few books and concluded they knew all about him. The greatness of K was his empty mind and therefore non attached. Decades ago when Rishi Valley was a virtual jungle with no running water, toilets or electricity he lived there in tents. He would arrive in India by a steamer, drive by car to Rishi Valley and immediately live with nothing. Neither wealth nor poverty affected him. Once before his talks in India he gave away all his kurtas to beggars. Somebody noticed in time and brought some new ones for the talks. He washed dishes, polished shoes and cleaned toilets. He never handled money but he was equally comfortable in both expensive suits and common kurtas. It is impossible to understand such a mind unless one has at least an inkling about emptiness.
So, is what K is saying is...money in itself is not the problem. But if our minds is occupied with concern of money..either worrying about...or how to have more or being afraid of losing it....whatever the form of habitual occupation is ....IS the problem! Practicality of money is not the problem in itself!
This man has free up some clutter in my mind 🙏🏽 Hoarding memory has made me let go of my past. I am very greatful I can come to this channel to have a grounding perception of life.
when internal conflict ceases so does the outward. Only way to bring order in the world is to put your house in order. To be in harmony is to bring internal harmony.
Interesting, very few comments actually mention the actual question and for that omit an honest opinion , which suggests we all fear being without money, so our sense to survive daily has to have that knowledge we have enough to survive even though we know we do. Very good talk Mr K
Thanks to the foundation for uploads. It helps the seekers to listen over and over again. Thanks to all the comments, they help in this journey together, like he says. By the way it is great to see him laugh and smile 😊
Thank you so much for the subtitles! It was sometimes hard to grasp every word because I understand that the recording was such back in the days. Thanks again!
The essence of J.k's teachings as I comprehend is to see one's mind or brain is not occupied and train one's mind to be free from any kind of thoughts whether good or bad. We have to train our minds to liberate from thoughts. Keeping brain empty brings energy to the brain. Regards Tirupati Dhanvantari Suri
I see a lot of people with ton's of money, but just because they've got a lot of money doesn't make them worth a $hit. But I do get what you mean, I could care less about a huge house and all the other look at me status, I would just like to have their money to have somewhat more options. Should I go to work today or I wish I could really help that person out who I know is struggling.
Many people nowadays are getting busy being occupied with books and videos and smartphones that they don’t have any time left for their own original. As JK said that the true relationship with money is keep no relationship with it at all, because money is nothing unless you put your attention to it, so whether you have a lot or little of it and still having necessary, you are free from it.!
to get money = work to get food , shelter , cloths etc. u need money. So work. That is the answer. Money will began to become a problem if you just desire get a lot or desire to spend it all. Thats all.
For k--l below, money is a medium and it always flows like liquid. If in a free and capitalistic society like America (less man-made obstructions like China and India now), it moves to the well-deserved, do-gooders and some greedy yet miserable moguls. But K's foundations and schools are far from rich and powerful, but of volunteers, long time supporters and anyone that wants to be set free, money or not. Have you been to their Ojai site? It's just a very unassuming (California standard) farm-house but full of positive energy. Be positive, don't be fearful of unjust situations, money will flow to you. Act with uncluttered heart and mind. It's the universal law.
You have fallen for propaganda by people who love money or even are under a self-deception... The Bible didn't say that money is the root of all evil, but that the love of money is the root of all evil. There is an infinite difference...
Without money, you can't live in this society. We are all conditioning created by our thought. We always play trick with ourselves because we all love doing these.
Money gives freedom, security, enjoyment ,almost everything - but in the name of God - religion asks money - why our brain occupied with money? -Not only money we are occupied with everything - it is our state of mind - to be occupied with something - hence brain is full - we fear of no mind - is it possible to be without occupation- observe - not to record even the observation - hence mind feels alive, free, extraordinary active - Are we aware of chattering - enquire slowly -step by step - Do not ask how to stop chattering - then the very process invoved in stoping the mind chattering is also an occupation - observe the consequences of occupation slowly - Do not seek empty mind - the very observation of youself releases you from occupation
We can not get rid of conditioning; since the design algorithm is based on survival aspects and life security means… the social values have to be observed thereafter the conditioning will be upgraded, approaching integrity…
he is one of man in history never will get replaced , only thing bother me is why his influence stayed limit it should have moved or at least done a lot in the whole world consciousness do any one know why his purpose or meaning never went widely globally
I agree J.K teachings are very intellectually intense. Or top notch. And I am always comprehending logically. But J.K I find watching same few times to truly digest it..or whether I can digest it. But I do give my best..
@@lisale798 I agree you need certain level of maturity to understand what JK is pointing to and very few will get it the whole system for generations has been conditioning people for example' influences from news media, politicians, entertainment industry, education system, work demands e.t,c this keeps the mind occupied asleep and distracted from what is really important in life which is inquiring into their own true nature, to wake up in this world is like going against the tide in the ocean but once you get it becomes quite natural
He is conservatively mentioning Advait Vedanta or non duality. Very deep indeed. No one can understand him if one has not read Upanishads in great depth.
On the contrary it is far easier to sift through the muck and understand true Advaita Vedanta after understanding him in plain English. That is why many scholars came to him for clearer understanding.
so in a spiritual perspective, what one should do if they need money to support their live and theirs family ? we can not just be "don't mind" when we know our children need shelter, food, education and etc, will an "empty mind" brings the solution we need? please enlighten me 🙏
+Sunnykumar Modi Here's the transcript: 4th Question: What is the right relationship to money? If you haven’t any you have no relationship! (Laughter) Like the speaker, it is very simple! But to be serious, (laughs) what is right relationship to money? Why has money become so important? Just let’s enquire into it. We are not the Delphic Oracle, or laying down the law, or telling you what you should think or do, but we are trying together to understand the problems of life, which are very complex, which need deep examination impersonally, objectively, sanely. So this is one of the problems, money. Why has money become so important? Is it because we have become worldly? ‘Worldly’ I am using in the sense, attached to the things that thought has put together. That is the first question I am asking. It is a complex question, we will go into it. Is it because money gives us freedom? You can travel if you have lots of money, you become powerful, become Lord this and that. If you have money you have a status, you are respected, you are looked up to. This is happening. If you have money you can do almost anything - go against all the laws. You see this everyday. Money is not supposed to be transferred from one country to another but if you are wealthy you have a secret account in Switzerland - you know all this - or transfer great wealth to America and so on. And if you have money you can enjoy yourself. So money has become extraordinarily valuable in all those senses. And without money you can’t do much either. If you want some clothes and so on you must have some money. But the question is really: why has money in our life, apart from buying necessary things or having something which is pleasant: nice picture, or a nice vase, or some beautiful ornament, apart from all that - or a beautiful garden if you are lucky - apart from that why do we lay such emphasis on money? You answer it please. I do not know if you realise what religions have become, organised religions: vast wealth, they are really business organizations in the name of god. This vast wealth of the gurus, incredible wealth, which all of us - not all of us, some of us have given to these gentlemen. And so money has become important. And when you go to the temples and so on, there is always money being asked. Are we so occupied with money? Naturally the poor man who has no money, he is naturally thinking about it. But those of us who have a little money, are we occupied with it? Is our main concern or occupation money? That awakens another question which is: why are our minds perpetually occupied? - occupied with something or other. If you are occupied with meditation when you are talking about meditation, then you are occupied with it - god - you follow? Everything from the housewife to the highest religious authorities are occupied - why? You understand my question? This is not an irrelevant question, it is relevant because our occupation with money or with sex, with this or with that, indicates the state of our own minds, our own hearts. To be occupied with something. Does it mean that this occupation with business, with money, with sex, with god, with the guru, with the politician and so on, so on, keeps our brain full? You understand my question? Is it that we are afraid not to be occupied? Please look at it. Look at ourselves, which is: am I occupied from morning till night and when I go to sleep the brain is also occupied, with dreams, with all kinds of sensations. So there is never a moment when the brain is not occupied. Is that so? And when the brain is so occupied there is no space - you understand? - and so the brain becomes more and more shallow. You can see this happening. Is it because we are frightened of not being occupied, therefore having no space, the brain having no rest at all, therefore wearing itself out. Right? The wearing itself out is a part of senility. Right? So is there a possibility of not being occupied? Merely to look, to observe, not be occupied with observation. Just to look, to observe so that the brain has a rest, not to record because our brain is all the time recording. I don’t know if you are following all this! If it interests you. Then your brain becomes extraordinarily alive, pliable. If you have ever observed without a single thought, have you? - to observe a tree, to observe the water, a sheet of water, the light on it, to observe a woman or a man without all the consequences of that observation, the sensations, so that your mind is really free from occupation. How can a brain that is occupied ever observe? You understand my question? How can a mind - a brain rather - that is always occupied with something casual, daydreaming, with the kitchen or with god, they are all the same, all occupations are the same, they are not superior occupations or inferior occupations, we are talking about occupation per se. Such a mind is really the most bourgeois mind in the world, including the Communists. Is chattering part of this occupation? - talking, talking, talking, endlessly, you follow? Now are we aware of this occupation, and experimenting with ourselves to see if it stops? Then to find out whether there is fear and pursue that fear - you follow? Go to the very end of it and end it. As we talked about it at previous talks. Then see what happens to this brain which has space, which has quietness, which is not occupied. If you say, ‘How am I to do it? Tell me the steps, the method how not to be occupied’, then those steps, those methods become your occupation, you are back in the cycle. But if you see the consequences of occupation, and see the fact of it, you move away from it. So if one is occupied with money, why? Either you are poor, which is natural, then you have to be concerned about it, but even if you are poor to be occupied eternally from morning till night, and the man who is very rich is also terribly occupied, how to keep the money, increase it - you know the whole business. So the real question is: can the mind be free from all occupation? If I may repeat some incident: we were in the Himalayas once far away from all noise and in a cottage, and a group of monks, sannyasis came rushing into the cottage to tell me something. They knew who I was, the person who was occupying it. So they came to see me and they said, ‘We have just come from a man who is far away in the hills who is full of knowledge. And we have just come and we are filled with that knowledge.’ And we said ‘What is that knowledge?’ And we went into it. At the end of it we discovered the solitary person living in the Himalayas was really not solitary at all. He has carried all the world’s knowledge up there and so he is never alone, never quiet. He is full of that knowledge and can therefore perhaps can never experience something totally original. A mind which is occupied can never experience something original. It is only the mind that is free, if I can use the word, empty. We were talking with a scientist some days ago and we were saying that emptiness is very important in life, not vacuum, not being just vague and daydreaming but really a mind that is not occupied has space and is totally empty. And we were saying that such a mind is full of energy. And the scientist agreed. He said ‘Where there is emptiness it is not empty, that very emptiness is energy’. I am telling you something. So let us… you think about it, you know, look at it.
What is right relationship with money? I know! Earn it a lot and use it right .... Right? ... K says, "Just look. Don't let it be occupied with money, and the brain becomes shallow. There is no room in the brain. Free it from bourgeois mind" .... "See the fact and move away from it" K says. Free my mind, open my eyes, to see the facts ....
For this and any other extracts, you can look it up yourself by searching for the full talk using the information in the video description. In this case, simply search for 'Brockwood 1981 Q&A 2' either directly on RUclips or Google. If you learn this method you won't need to ask for the link again. Hope this helps.
@@Henneys I love to here you give a talk in front of people about this topic 🤔so easy to point the finger 😚I would love to hear what you have to say probably nothing of the same magnitude I'm saying probably😂✌.
@@Henneys True. But he also gave up MASS wealth and property when he renounced his role as the 'world teacher' that the theosophists wanted him to take up. He earned every single 'penny' of being taken care of IMO.
+rafael carlose Here's the transcript: 4th Question: What is the right relationship to money? If you haven’t any you have no relationship! (Laughter) Like the speaker, it is very simple! But to be serious, (laughs) what is right relationship to money? Why has money become so important? Just let’s enquire into it. We are not the Delphic Oracle, or laying down the law, or telling you what you should think or do, but we are trying together to understand the problems of life, which are very complex, which need deep examination impersonally, objectively, sanely. So this is one of the problems, money. Why has money become so important? Is it because we have become worldly? ‘Worldly’ I am using in the sense, attached to the things that thought has put together. That is the first question I am asking. It is a complex question, we will go into it. Is it because money gives us freedom? You can travel if you have lots of money, you become powerful, become Lord this and that. If you have money you have a status, you are respected, you are looked up to. This is happening. If you have money you can do almost anything - go against all the laws. You see this everyday. Money is not supposed to be transferred from one country to another but if you are wealthy you have a secret account in Switzerland - you know all this - or transfer great wealth to America and so on. And if you have money you can enjoy yourself. So money has become extraordinarily valuable in all those senses. And without money you can’t do much either. If you want some clothes and so on you must have some money. But the question is really: why has money in our life, apart from buying necessary things or having something which is pleasant: nice picture, or a nice vase, or some beautiful ornament, apart from all that - or a beautiful garden if you are lucky - apart from that why do we lay such emphasis on money? You answer it please. I do not know if you realise what religions have become, organised religions: vast wealth, they are really business organizations in the name of god. This vast wealth of the gurus, incredible wealth, which all of us - not all of us, some of us have given to these gentlemen. And so money has become important. And when you go to the temples and so on, there is always money being asked. Are we so occupied with money? Naturally the poor man who has no money, he is naturally thinking about it. But those of us who have a little money, are we occupied with it? Is our main concern or occupation money? That awakens another question which is: why are our minds perpetually occupied? - occupied with something or other. If you are occupied with meditation when you are talking about meditation, then you are occupied with it - god - you follow? Everything from the housewife to the highest religious authorities are occupied - why? You understand my question? This is not an irrelevant question, it is relevant because our occupation with money or with sex, with this or with that, indicates the state of our own minds, our own hearts. To be occupied with something. Does it mean that this occupation with business, with money, with sex, with god, with the guru, with the politician and so on, so on, keeps our brain full? You understand my question? Is it that we are afraid not to be occupied? Please look at it. Look at ourselves, which is: am I occupied from morning till night and when I go to sleep the brain is also occupied, with dreams, with all kinds of sensations. So there is never a moment when the brain is not occupied. Is that so? And when the brain is so occupied there is no space - you understand? - and so the brain becomes more and more shallow. You can see this happening. Is it because we are frightened of not being occupied, therefore having no space, the brain having no rest at all, therefore wearing itself out. Right? The wearing itself out is a part of senility. Right? So is there a possibility of not being occupied? Merely to look, to observe, not be occupied with observation. Just to look, to observe so that the brain has a rest, not to record because our brain is all the time recording. I don’t know if you are following all this! If it interests you. Then your brain becomes extraordinarily alive, pliable. If you have ever observed without a single thought, have you? - to observe a tree, to observe the water, a sheet of water, the light on it, to observe a woman or a man without all the consequences of that observation, the sensations, so that your mind is really free from occupation. How can a brain that is occupied ever observe? You understand my question? How can a mind - a brain rather - that is always occupied with something casual, daydreaming, with the kitchen or with god, they are all the same, all occupations are the same, they are not superior occupations or inferior occupations, we are talking about occupation per se. Such a mind is really the most bourgeois mind in the world, including the Communists. Is chattering part of this occupation? - talking, talking, talking, endlessly, you follow? Now are we aware of this occupation, and experimenting with ourselves to see if it stops? Then to find out whether there is fear and pursue that fear - you follow? Go to the very end of it and end it. As we talked about it at previous talks. Then see what happens to this brain which has space, which has quietness, which is not occupied. If you say, ‘How am I to do it? Tell me the steps, the method how not to be occupied’, then those steps, those methods become your occupation, you are back in the cycle. But if you see the consequences of occupation, and see the fact of it, you move away from it. So if one is occupied with money, why? Either you are poor, which is natural, then you have to be concerned about it, but even if you are poor to be occupied eternally from morning till night, and the man who is very rich is also terribly occupied, how to keep the money, increase it - you know the whole business. So the real question is: can the mind be free from all occupation? If I may repeat some incident: we were in the Himalayas once far away from all noise and in a cottage, and a group of monks, sannyasis came rushing into the cottage to tell me something. They knew who I was, the person who was occupying it. So they came to see me and they said, ‘We have just come from a man who is far away in the hills who is full of knowledge. And we have just come and we are filled with that knowledge.’ And we said ‘What is that knowledge?’ And we went into it. At the end of it we discovered the solitary person living in the Himalayas was really not solitary at all. He has carried all the world’s knowledge up there and so he is never alone, never quiet. He is full of that knowledge and can therefore perhaps can never experience something totally original. A mind which is occupied can never experience something original. It is only the mind that is free, if I can use the word, empty. We were talking with a scientist some days ago and we were saying that emptiness is very important in life, not vacuum, not being just vague and daydreaming but really a mind that is not occupied has space and is totally empty. And we were saying that such a mind is full of energy. And the scientist agreed. He said ‘Where there is emptiness it is not empty, that very emptiness is energy’. I am telling you something. So let us… you think about it, you know, look at it.
+rafael carlee Thank you for your message. May I ask what do you mean by 'it's not complete'? It seems to me that the transcript contains text for the whole video.
Nothingness ....Emptiness is not easy to achieve.. We need to do lot of practice to stop imagination, greed, comparison and brain programing....Human lives with reality not more than ten percent of the life....90% of the life occupied with nonsense.....
You only have to watch the thought, the self, the happenings. Nothingness doesn't mean everything becomes zero but you become. There's a certain dissociation that happens yet you are fully attentive. If you look for your own answer with tremendous need, hunger, attention, you'd find it's right there. You believe it's an immediate thing right? And that every human has it while born and can have it almost instantaneously in due life. Then why do we listen to odur thoughts that it is the hardest and yet the simplest. Why is that when we go to one end there's another end at the pole. Why the pole shifts. Experiment is the word if at all. We need to experiment with ourselves of who we are and what is meditation. One day, one moment, it's simpler to grab. Now to sustain, there's an ordeal to understand, and understanding will rise and make you free. Your own understanding. Not Ks, nor anybody else's.
Please go ahead and observe your thoughts... just to look at it... what is that he is using to observe these thoughts? That is again a thought! If you are falling for this crap and find yourself at peace then good luck to you.
I thank the Krishnamurti Foundation for every Sunday you take the time and effort to upload videos from K. They're precious!
Thank you so much 🙏🏽 😊 🙏🏽
Thank you for your comment. K's formation of foundations to disseminate the Teachings has been and continues to be an amazing accomplishment. Infinte thanks to all those people in different parts of the world for so wonderfully effecting, past, present, and future, K's request. Your diligent and fastidious actualization of disseminating the Teachings is the only possibility humanity has to offset the destruction of our home planet in all its magnificent beauty, and all life on it. Infinite thanks...
They are precious gems to me....
I discovered this man a few months ago and damn he helped me more than anyone else’s talk, books and teaching, all his concerns are us to see the truth and nothing more, he don’t care about success , money and fame like we see nowadays with almost everyone in the teaching, spiritual and coaching field, I can see how everyone feed their ego under the name of kindness, he is formless and has no image in his mind, gratitude for his existence 🙏🏼
Every aware man should listen this very deeply TN complete transformation takes place.
Well written sir.
Exactly anyone that charges to speak the truth cannot be trusted their ego and greed is #1
In which way his talks helped in your life, sir! Can you give a brief about it... Thank you.
‘Where there is emptiness it is not empty, that very emptiness is energy’. SO TRUE!!!
I got it after watching the full video.
Moral-
Money is important for survival but our brain should not be occupied with it all the time..
Until you realise you're trading everything for money. Your time everything in life costs money
A few ill informed comments here about K and money. People probably read a few books and concluded they knew all about him. The greatness of K was his empty mind and therefore non attached. Decades ago when Rishi Valley was a virtual jungle with no running water, toilets or electricity he lived there in tents. He would arrive in India by a steamer, drive by car to Rishi Valley and immediately live with nothing. Neither wealth nor poverty affected him. Once before his talks in India he gave away all his kurtas to beggars. Somebody noticed in time and brought some new ones for the talks. He washed dishes, polished shoes and cleaned toilets. He never handled money but he was equally comfortable in both expensive suits and common kurtas. It is impossible to understand such a mind unless one has at least an inkling about emptiness.
Fantastic Vish Sir. Brilliant analysis and corollary. Thank you so much Vish Sir for sharing this.
Well written! Good to know this about him!
And the source for all this?
👌🏻well written
Thanks for sharing...
So, is what K is saying is...money in itself is not the problem. But if our minds is occupied with concern of money..either worrying about...or how to have more or being afraid of losing it....whatever the form of habitual occupation is ....IS the problem! Practicality of money is not the problem in itself!
you summarized it perfectly.
money is a huge problem. leading money you don't have (which is how banks function) and charging interest, to me, is criminal.
@@mazxbv can you put observation of the system down for a minute and free your mind from that burden?
Thankyou for summarizing 😀
Yes
This man has free up some clutter in my mind 🙏🏽 Hoarding memory has made me let go of my past. I am very greatful I can come to this channel to have a grounding perception of life.
when internal conflict ceases so does the outward. Only way to bring order in the world is to put your house in order. To be in harmony is to bring internal harmony.
Where there is emptiness. , It is not empty !
That emptiness gives us energy !!
Thank you Mr. JK !
nice
Let go of all attachments…including money! Be happy simply being aware and being at peace with yourself.
His insights never fail to amaze me.
Interesting, very few comments actually mention the actual question and for that omit an honest opinion , which suggests we all fear being without money, so our sense to survive daily has to have that knowledge we have enough to survive even though we know we do. Very good talk Mr K
As always, the bright light of K focuses on a common issue and turns it upside down
Love your infinite presence Master K🙂🙏
Jiddu Krishnamurti is truly radical! I hear him. He is a good teacher. Thank you these videos
His teachings are enlightening and I am so glad that it came to me when I was most in need.
"Experiment with ourselves to see if the mind's occupations stop...then see whether there's fear, & pursue/go to the very end of that fear & end it."
Jiddu KRISHNAMURTHY Ji has cleared so many doubts of us and he comes with clarity and peace giving wisdom
I just love watching him laugh
Thanks to the foundation for uploads. It helps the seekers to listen over and over again. Thanks to all the comments, they help in this journey together, like he says. By the way it is great to see him laugh and smile 😊
Thanks for serving JKs inquiry about life ❤️👏
Thank you so much for the subtitles! It was sometimes hard to grasp every word because I understand that the recording was such back in the days. Thanks again!
I have started to listen to his videos he really was good at looking at it from the veiw of what is
Thank you so much JK.❤️🙏
A mind which is occupied can never experience something original. 16:30
Thank you so much for the videos！🙏🏻
நன்றி
The most wonderful man on Earth! ❤
thankyou to this channel for uploading this wonderful video ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Guruji 🌸
To analyse jk teaching one must hv that kind of mental frequency...
Where there is emptiness, it's not empty,
That very emptiness is energy!
Yes, Sir, i do follow. Grateful
Listening to you everyday…
This is true analysis.
Marvelous !!! Thank-you, Sir 😁
Thanks for the videos 😊
I have been reading J K books for over stencil st50 years I had the opportunity to li
Thank you Sir - you enlightened me of emptiness belongs to huge energy ...love it ...
Master. A man with eyes
Speechless 🌌💞🙏
Thank you 🙏🌟
k was simply awesome
Brilliant 🙏
This was excellent I mean wonderful I learned a lot watching this
Brilliant.
Brilliant 🙏🏽✨
Everytime he sez "do you follow me Sir"
I nod my head
I follow you, my mind is clear.
It's just fabtstic to listen this fantastic man and get the deepeset knowledhe about the life
Amazing
super
The essence of J.k's teachings as I comprehend is to see one's mind or brain is not occupied and train one's mind to be free from any kind of thoughts whether good or bad. We have to train our minds to liberate from thoughts. Keeping brain empty brings energy to the brain. Regards Tirupati Dhanvantari Suri
But who is doing the training ? It implies time
No need to train the mind, it's getting it back to it's natural state by pure seeing
Who is liberator? The liberator is also created by thought
Resonate very much so to the root of human conditioning.
Relavant on any day 🙏
Because money is everything
Great man
I just want to get the riches to solidify my happiness.
I see a lot of people with ton's of money, but just because they've got a lot of money doesn't make them worth a $hit. But I do get what you mean, I could care less about a huge house and all the other look at me status, I would just like to have their money to have somewhat more options. Should I go to work today or I wish I could really help that person out who I know is struggling.
Many people nowadays are getting busy being occupied with books and videos and smartphones that they don’t have any time left for their own original. As JK said that the true relationship with money is keep no relationship with it at all, because money is nothing unless you put your attention to it, so whether you have a lot or little of it and still having necessary, you are free from it.!
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to get money = work
to get food , shelter , cloths etc. u need money. So work. That is the answer. Money will began to become a problem if you just desire get a lot or desire to spend it all. Thats all.
Those who are empty on the inside..must decorate themselves on the outside.
beautyful garden if you are lucky❤️
For k--l below, money is a medium and it always flows like liquid. If in a free and capitalistic society like America (less man-made obstructions like China and India now), it moves to the well-deserved, do-gooders and some greedy yet miserable moguls. But K's foundations and schools are far from rich and powerful, but of volunteers, long time supporters and anyone that wants to be set free, money or not. Have you been to their Ojai site? It's just a very unassuming (California standard) farm-house but full of positive energy. Be positive, don't be fearful of unjust situations, money will flow to you. Act with uncluttered heart and mind. It's the universal law.
well said!!!!
I thank krishnamurti foundation for providing such a thought provoking discussions. Can I have a transcription of this please...
jkrishnamurti.org/content/2nd-question-answer-meeting-31
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Without people, there is no money to speak of. The root of all evil is not to be found with money.
Correct, but he was discussing relationship of people with money.
meanwhile while there is money the suffering will continue to be enormous
You have fallen for propaganda by people who love money or even are under a self-deception... The Bible didn't say that money is the root of all evil, but that the love of money is the root of all evil. There is an infinite difference...
Maybe you dig the song, 'Money Is Flesh by Swans'
Damn that was well put!!
I realize I have been occupied with the observation rather than observing:(
That emptiness has potential and potential is infinite. Only empty brain can connect to infinite.
Without money, you can't live in this society. We are all conditioning created by our thought. We always play trick with ourselves because we all love doing these.
Money is not the problem the love of it is...
Money gives freedom, security, enjoyment ,almost everything - but in the name of God - religion asks money - why our brain occupied with money? -Not only money we are occupied with everything - it is our state of mind - to be occupied with something - hence brain is full - we fear of no mind - is it possible to be without occupation- observe - not to record even the observation - hence mind feels alive, free, extraordinary active - Are we aware of chattering - enquire slowly -step by step - Do not ask how to stop chattering - then the very process invoved in stoping the mind chattering is also an occupation - observe the consequences of occupation slowly - Do not seek empty mind - the very observation of youself releases you from occupation
We can not get rid of conditioning; since the design algorithm is based on survival aspects and life security means… the social values have to be observed thereafter the conditioning will be upgraded, approaching integrity…
he is one of man in history never will get replaced , only thing bother me is why his influence stayed limit it should have moved or at least done a lot in the whole world consciousness
do any one know why his purpose or meaning never went widely globally
I think ..we humans.. is not yet ready to absorve what he was puting out...
His teaching is quite heavy , not many people get it. Need review many time to get his point. Blessing to people who understand him.
There are not enough devotees of truth.
I agree J.K teachings are very intellectually intense. Or top notch. And I am always comprehending logically. But J.K I find watching same few times to truly digest it..or whether I can digest it. But I do give my best..
@@lisale798 I agree you need certain level of maturity to understand what JK is pointing to and very few will get it the whole system for generations has been conditioning people for example' influences from news media, politicians, entertainment industry, education system, work demands e.t,c this keeps the mind occupied asleep and distracted from what is really important in life which is inquiring into their own true nature, to wake up in this world is like going against the tide in the ocean but once you get it becomes quite natural
He is conservatively mentioning Advait Vedanta or non duality. Very deep indeed. No one can understand him if one has not read Upanishads in great depth.
On the contrary it is far easier to sift through the muck and understand true Advaita Vedanta after understanding him in plain English. That is why many scholars came to him for clearer understanding.
People who insist on not finding their answers from within keep gurus in business.
So, thinking about money is the problem.
Or thinking about anything more than neccesary is the problem.
Thinking. 💭 is seemingly the problem
When the brain is so occupied than there is no space. 9:00
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so in a spiritual perspective, what one should do if they need money to support their live and theirs family ? we can not just be "don't mind" when we know our children need shelter, food, education and etc, will an "empty mind" brings the solution we need? please enlighten me 🙏
An ‘empty mind’ means there is no ‘me’ and so no ‘my family’, ‘my money’ and so on. Your question only arises to crowded minds.
an anasha my parents hate me cause i'm making no profit, how to get over it and still love them ? peace
Move on from haters
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+Sunnykumar Modi Here's the transcript:
4th Question: What is the right relationship to money?
If you haven’t any you have no relationship! (Laughter) Like the speaker, it is very simple! But to be serious, (laughs) what is right relationship to money? Why has money become so important? Just let’s enquire into it. We are not the Delphic Oracle, or laying down the law, or telling you what you should think or do, but we are trying together to understand the problems of life, which are very complex, which need deep examination impersonally, objectively, sanely. So this is one of the problems, money. Why has money become so important? Is it because we have become worldly? ‘Worldly’ I am using in the sense, attached to the things that thought has put together. That is the first question I am asking. It is a complex question, we will go into it.
Is it because money gives us freedom? You can travel if you have lots of money, you become powerful, become Lord this and that. If you have money you have a status, you are respected, you are looked up to. This is happening. If you have money you can do almost anything - go against all the laws. You see this everyday. Money is not supposed to be transferred from one country to another but if you are wealthy you have a secret account in Switzerland - you know all this - or transfer great wealth to America and so on. And if you have money you can enjoy yourself. So money has become extraordinarily valuable in all those senses.
And without money you can’t do much either. If you want some clothes and so on you must have some money. But the question is really: why has money in our life, apart from buying necessary things or having something which is pleasant: nice picture, or a nice vase, or some beautiful ornament, apart from all that - or a beautiful garden if you are lucky - apart from that why do we lay such emphasis on money? You answer it please.
I do not know if you realise what religions have become, organised religions: vast wealth, they are really business organizations in the name of god. This vast wealth of the gurus, incredible wealth, which all of us - not all of us, some of us have given to these gentlemen. And so money has become important. And when you go to the temples and so on, there is always money being asked. Are we so occupied with money? Naturally the poor man who has no money, he is naturally thinking about it. But those of us who have a little money, are we occupied with it? Is our main concern or occupation money?
That awakens another question which is: why are our minds perpetually occupied? - occupied with something or other. If you are occupied with meditation when you are talking about meditation, then you are occupied with it - god - you follow? Everything from the housewife to the highest religious authorities are occupied - why? You understand my question? This is not an irrelevant question, it is relevant because our occupation with money or with sex, with this or with that, indicates the state of our own minds, our own hearts. To be occupied with something. Does it mean that this occupation with business, with money, with sex, with god, with the guru, with the politician and so on, so on, keeps our brain full? You understand my question? Is it that we are afraid not to be occupied? Please look at it. Look at ourselves, which is: am I occupied from morning till night and when I go to sleep the brain is also occupied, with dreams, with all kinds of sensations. So there is never a moment when the brain is not occupied. Is that so? And when the brain is so occupied there is no space - you understand? - and so the brain becomes more and more shallow. You can see this happening. Is it because we are frightened of not being occupied, therefore having no space, the brain having no rest at all, therefore wearing itself out. Right? The wearing itself out is a part of senility. Right? So is there a possibility of not being occupied? Merely to look, to observe, not be occupied with observation. Just to look, to observe so that the brain has a rest, not to record because our brain is all the time recording. I don’t know if you are following all this! If it interests you. Then your brain becomes extraordinarily alive, pliable.
If you have ever observed without a single thought, have you? - to observe a tree, to observe the water, a sheet of water, the light on it, to observe a woman or a man without all the consequences of that observation, the sensations, so that your mind is really free from occupation. How can a brain that is occupied ever observe? You understand my question? How can a mind - a brain rather - that is always occupied with something casual, daydreaming, with the kitchen or with god, they are all the same, all occupations are the same, they are not superior occupations or inferior occupations, we are talking about occupation per se. Such a mind is really the most bourgeois mind in the world, including the Communists. Is chattering part of this occupation? - talking, talking, talking, endlessly, you follow? Now are we aware of this occupation, and experimenting with ourselves to see if it stops? Then to find out whether there is fear and pursue that fear - you follow? Go to the very end of it and end it. As we talked about it at previous talks. Then see what happens to this brain which has space, which has quietness, which is not occupied. If you say, ‘How am I to do it? Tell me the steps, the method how not to be occupied’, then those steps, those methods become your occupation, you are back in the cycle. But if you see the consequences of occupation, and see the fact of it, you move away from it. So if one is occupied with money, why? Either you are poor, which is natural, then you have to be concerned about it, but even if you are poor to be occupied eternally from morning till night, and the man who is very rich is also terribly occupied, how to keep the money, increase it - you know the whole business.
So the real question is: can the mind be free from all occupation? If I may repeat some incident: we were in the Himalayas once far away from all noise and in a cottage, and a group of monks, sannyasis came rushing into the cottage to tell me something. They knew who I was, the person who was occupying it. So they came to see me and they said, ‘We have just come from a man who is far away in the hills who is full of knowledge. And we have just come and we are filled with that knowledge.’ And we said ‘What is that knowledge?’ And we went into it. At the end of it we discovered the solitary person living in the Himalayas was really not solitary at all. He has carried all the world’s knowledge up there and so he is never alone, never quiet. He is full of that knowledge and can therefore perhaps can never experience something totally original. A mind which is occupied can never experience something original. It is only the mind that is free, if I can use the word, empty.
We were talking with a scientist some days ago and we were saying that emptiness is very important in life, not vacuum, not being just vague and daydreaming but really a mind that is not occupied has space and is totally empty. And we were saying that such a mind is full of energy. And the scientist agreed. He said ‘Where there is emptiness it is not empty, that very emptiness is energy’. I am telling you something. So let us… you think about it, you know, look at it.
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@@KFoundation thank u so muchhhhh🙏🙏🙏🙏
Money is everything, life true purpose is make more money, and enjoy the life
What is right relationship with money? I know!
Earn it a lot and use it right .... Right? ...
K says, "Just look. Don't let it be occupied with money, and the brain becomes shallow. There is no room in the brain. Free it from bourgeois mind" .... "See the fact and move away from it" K says.
Free my mind, open my eyes, to see the facts ....
Why has money become so important ?
Can the mind be free from all occupation?
Back to cycle
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theres no "apart from that", thats why.
5:13 organised religious!!!
See the fact of it and move away from it 👌 19:16
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00:41 if you haven't than no relationship🙏😅
Empty mind n empty purse, can they co-exist?
If I could put three likes or more - I would do so...
Become a zero, if you want to become a hero.
No my sir. I need money so I can buy a house and sleep
Sewinder Kaur he was taken care of all his life
Lol
You can't sleep because people have illgotten wealth in Swiss account
@@Henneys I love to here you give a talk in front of people about this topic 🤔so easy to point the finger 😚I would love to hear what you have to say probably nothing of the same magnitude I'm saying probably😂✌.
That wasn't his point ma'am!! The video was only like 18 minutes long !! 😉did you listen to the whole thing ma'am???
@@Henneys True. But he also gave up MASS wealth and property when he renounced his role as the 'world teacher' that the theosophists wanted him to take up. He earned every single 'penny' of being taken care of IMO.
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+rafael carlose Here's the transcript:
4th Question: What is the right relationship to money?
If you haven’t any you have no relationship! (Laughter) Like the speaker, it is very simple! But to be serious, (laughs) what is right relationship to money? Why has money become so important? Just let’s enquire into it. We are not the Delphic Oracle, or laying down the law, or telling you what you should think or do, but we are trying together to understand the problems of life, which are very complex, which need deep examination impersonally, objectively, sanely. So this is one of the problems, money. Why has money become so important? Is it because we have become worldly? ‘Worldly’ I am using in the sense, attached to the things that thought has put together. That is the first question I am asking. It is a complex question, we will go into it.
Is it because money gives us freedom? You can travel if you have lots of money, you become powerful, become Lord this and that. If you have money you have a status, you are respected, you are looked up to. This is happening. If you have money you can do almost anything - go against all the laws. You see this everyday. Money is not supposed to be transferred from one country to another but if you are wealthy you have a secret account in Switzerland - you know all this - or transfer great wealth to America and so on. And if you have money you can enjoy yourself. So money has become extraordinarily valuable in all those senses.
And without money you can’t do much either. If you want some clothes and so on you must have some money. But the question is really: why has money in our life, apart from buying necessary things or having something which is pleasant: nice picture, or a nice vase, or some beautiful ornament, apart from all that - or a beautiful garden if you are lucky - apart from that why do we lay such emphasis on money? You answer it please.
I do not know if you realise what religions have become, organised religions: vast wealth, they are really business organizations in the name of god. This vast wealth of the gurus, incredible wealth, which all of us - not all of us, some of us have given to these gentlemen. And so money has become important. And when you go to the temples and so on, there is always money being asked. Are we so occupied with money? Naturally the poor man who has no money, he is naturally thinking about it. But those of us who have a little money, are we occupied with it? Is our main concern or occupation money?
That awakens another question which is: why are our minds perpetually occupied? - occupied with something or other. If you are occupied with meditation when you are talking about meditation, then you are occupied with it - god - you follow? Everything from the housewife to the highest religious authorities are occupied - why? You understand my question? This is not an irrelevant question, it is relevant because our occupation with money or with sex, with this or with that, indicates the state of our own minds, our own hearts. To be occupied with something. Does it mean that this occupation with business, with money, with sex, with god, with the guru, with the politician and so on, so on, keeps our brain full? You understand my question? Is it that we are afraid not to be occupied? Please look at it. Look at ourselves, which is: am I occupied from morning till night and when I go to sleep the brain is also occupied, with dreams, with all kinds of sensations. So there is never a moment when the brain is not occupied. Is that so? And when the brain is so occupied there is no space - you understand? - and so the brain becomes more and more shallow. You can see this happening. Is it because we are frightened of not being occupied, therefore having no space, the brain having no rest at all, therefore wearing itself out. Right? The wearing itself out is a part of senility. Right? So is there a possibility of not being occupied? Merely to look, to observe, not be occupied with observation. Just to look, to observe so that the brain has a rest, not to record because our brain is all the time recording. I don’t know if you are following all this! If it interests you. Then your brain becomes extraordinarily alive, pliable.
If you have ever observed without a single thought, have you? - to observe a tree, to observe the water, a sheet of water, the light on it, to observe a woman or a man without all the consequences of that observation, the sensations, so that your mind is really free from occupation. How can a brain that is occupied ever observe? You understand my question? How can a mind - a brain rather - that is always occupied with something casual, daydreaming, with the kitchen or with god, they are all the same, all occupations are the same, they are not superior occupations or inferior occupations, we are talking about occupation per se. Such a mind is really the most bourgeois mind in the world, including the Communists. Is chattering part of this occupation? - talking, talking, talking, endlessly, you follow? Now are we aware of this occupation, and experimenting with ourselves to see if it stops? Then to find out whether there is fear and pursue that fear - you follow? Go to the very end of it and end it. As we talked about it at previous talks. Then see what happens to this brain which has space, which has quietness, which is not occupied. If you say, ‘How am I to do it? Tell me the steps, the method how not to be occupied’, then those steps, those methods become your occupation, you are back in the cycle. But if you see the consequences of occupation, and see the fact of it, you move away from it. So if one is occupied with money, why? Either you are poor, which is natural, then you have to be concerned about it, but even if you are poor to be occupied eternally from morning till night, and the man who is very rich is also terribly occupied, how to keep the money, increase it - you know the whole business.
So the real question is: can the mind be free from all occupation? If I may repeat some incident: we were in the Himalayas once far away from all noise and in a cottage, and a group of monks, sannyasis came rushing into the cottage to tell me something. They knew who I was, the person who was occupying it. So they came to see me and they said, ‘We have just come from a man who is far away in the hills who is full of knowledge. And we have just come and we are filled with that knowledge.’ And we said ‘What is that knowledge?’ And we went into it. At the end of it we discovered the solitary person living in the Himalayas was really not solitary at all. He has carried all the world’s knowledge up there and so he is never alone, never quiet. He is full of that knowledge and can therefore perhaps can never experience something totally original. A mind which is occupied can never experience something original. It is only the mind that is free, if I can use the word, empty.
We were talking with a scientist some days ago and we were saying that emptiness is very important in life, not vacuum, not being just vague and daydreaming but really a mind that is not occupied has space and is totally empty. And we were saying that such a mind is full of energy. And the scientist agreed. He said ‘Where there is emptiness it is not empty, that very emptiness is energy’. I am telling you something. So let us… you think about it, you know, look at it.
cheers but it's not complete?
+rafael carlee Thank you for your message. May I ask what do you mean by 'it's not complete'? It seems to me that the transcript contains text for the whole video.
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Nothingness ....Emptiness is not easy to achieve.. We need to do lot of practice to stop imagination, greed, comparison and brain programing....Human lives with reality not more than ten percent of the life....90% of the life occupied with nonsense.....
You only have to watch the thought, the self, the happenings. Nothingness doesn't mean everything becomes zero but you become. There's a certain dissociation that happens yet you are fully attentive. If you look for your own answer with tremendous need, hunger, attention, you'd find it's right there. You believe it's an immediate thing right? And that every human has it while born and can have it almost instantaneously in due life. Then why do we listen to odur thoughts that it is the hardest and yet the simplest. Why is that when we go to one end there's another end at the pole. Why the pole shifts. Experiment is the word if at all. We need to experiment with ourselves of who we are and what is meditation. One day, one moment, it's simpler to grab. Now to sustain, there's an ordeal to understand, and understanding will rise and make you free. Your own understanding. Not Ks, nor anybody else's.
"Your the problem, your the trap"
money is the biggest illusion in this samsara.
guru pitka, monies is not samsara. attachment to monies is samsara.
Money is the most essential vitamin M for life.
jagdish jariwala lol
He is taking you for a ride... take it or leave it, that is what I think.
Please go ahead and observe your thoughts... just to look at it... what is that he is using to observe these thoughts? That is again a thought! If you are falling for this crap and find yourself at peace then good luck to you.
Then why are you listening to this joker? You are contradicting yourself.
@@johndoe-ei1yi of course it is a thought, how could he show without it? it's like a re-installation sir, tremmmmendously essential!