3:25 They only wished back Piccolo because that would bring back the Dragonballs on Earth. They used the second wish to bring piccolo to Nemek. Then the guru died so no third wish, lol.
Personally, I'd say watch 30, then go back and catch up on specials and the like before starting season 3. You're literally on the cusp of one of the single greatest moments in anime history, and I think TFS did a fantastic job with it. EDIT: I forgot to add this earlier, but as a show of how good the writing was getting at this point, after Goku suggests the game of 20 questions, everyone collectively asks 20 questions...and then Krillin asks question 21 with "Can't you take a joke?" So you could argue that Freeza killed him for breaking the rules. :P
Anyone with a halo over their head is dead. Particularly heroic characters can keep their bodies in the afterlife and train with King Kai. The 4 members of the Ginyu force were brought in explicitly by King Kai to be sparring partners for the three remaining good guys on Kai's planet.
"In the middle of a fight" kind of describes most of DBZ. "Next time on Dragonball Z, Goku continues charging his attack!" (For 3 episodes straight for the Genki Dama he hit Frieza with, IIRC)
Id likely say that most people are here because you are watching this. ive DBZA i dont even remember how many times and im here to see you react as someone who hasn't seen it. Who doesn't know DBZ super well, you are enjoying it which show how much their work has stood the test of time and it only gets better.
So? You think only a retarded guy could write retarded jokes? You think they can? Im just asking, cause im trying to follow your logic. Are knock knock jokes written only by doormen? I know what you're trying to say, but this type of thinking is what ruined comedy in the first place. Nothing personal againts you, I've just seen this dumb comment too many times under abridged videos.
The Spirit Bomb doesn't kill who or what it draws energy from to be made. The joke with the deer was just for the dark joke of the daddy deer dying. The Spirit Bomb only takes a very small amount of ki. If a human has an average power level of 5, it takes 1, which the himans will recover within an hour or so. Those who can control their ki can focus and donate as much as they want to it. Goku drawing from the planets in the vicinity of Planet Namek gave him a tiny bit from everything on them, like every individual blade of grass and leaf on every tree and bush, every string of kelp, all of the insects, fish, and animals, and all of that adds up to a gihugic Spirit Bomb. Frieza survived because Goku calculated the Spirit Bomb based on what he could sense Frieza's power level to be and *hoped* it'd be enough. As we saw, it fell a bit short of the necessary amount to take Frieza out.
Originally, to keep your body in the afterlife you had to be of a certain moral fiber. Not nessessarily 100% squiky clean, but a good person. That was later retconned to: once you're above a certain power threshold, you maintain your form. I'm not sure if it's ever expressly said in the Og show or manga, but that's what they show. People with power maintain their form while regular citizens become clouds/spirits.
Both DBZ and the abridged series long precedes Megamind. Also Frieza didn't have to wait because it was a small part of his own energy rather than something he borrowed from elsewhere.
I don't fully remember but I think I meant that Megamind took the idea? Or rather, something similar happened in Megamind and I recognized it here as a trope, and I phrased it backwards 🤷🏼♀️
@ChicagoReacts You did phrase it weird but you said "stole if FOR megamind" not from megamind but you said it quiet enough and in a weird phrasing to where it sounds like you said they stole it from megamind
Sure if anyone said this yet, but as for Recoom, Burter, Jeice, and Guldo showing up with King Kai, in the original he requested them to be there as training fodder for the other three, however it was just as filler and utterly useless information.
The spirit bomb simply absorbs little amounts of energy haha, even in season 1 the deer thing was a joke that wasn't in the original show. Also DBZ is an 80s-90s anime so it definitely doesn't copy anything on Megamind 😄 As for the end, yeah we were all at loss for words when it happened! Can't wait to see you react to the next episode, it's one of the best in the series!
The way the Spirit Bomb work is Goku gathers "good" energy from any living source that he can find, gathers it up into a ball, and then throws it at something evil. The more evil something is, the more effective the Spirit Bomb is. It also doesn't harm the people that Goku gathers it from, and Goku can also get more good energy from them if they give it willingly. People who are pure of heart aren't affected at all, and it would just bounce off, kind of how Gohan did earlier in the series.
Main callbacks. 1: on episode 2, piccolo had to charge his attack to kill radditz. He did that complete with needing 5 minutes and singing a song while Goku was beaten up. Thus his comment here "Did you just hold a grudge?" 2: At the start of season 2 Mr Popo looked at Krillin and went "This season.... you.." implying that he was going to die. That is why this after credits thing happened with the "called it".
The namekian dragon can only revive one person at a time, so only he was revived and then wished to namek. Making a spirit bomb only borrows a small amount of energy from something alive. By expanding the radius of where he was drawing from he was just Borrowing from more life forms
I don't remember if it's a thing in the original dub or it's a Thing of the Spanish dub that i grew up with but when goku gathers energy from a planet/s he always sort of begs for all the spare energy they can give him, one thing that is universal in every version is that 99.99% of the energy he gets is given consensually if he wants to make a ball bigger than a head
Frieza is probably the most iconic DBZ villain, but he is not the "main villain" of the series. DBZ is actually divided into 4 main arcs over 500ish episodes, with Frieza being the main bad of the 2nd arc, first being Vegeta. Abridged covers the first 3 arcs. And then there's like 18 movies, but that's a whole other story.
The thing I hate about the Spirit Bomb is that if you have any even the smallest of goodness in you it won’t kill said person it hits. Which I hate because it means that Freezer has some stupid tiny itty bitty goodness for redemption unlike a certain villain from the saga that takes place two sagas from this one. Wording it this to avoid spoilers but people should know what saga I’m talking about.
No, Freeza didn't survived because he has some good in him, but because he's simply that sturdy. The same way Vegeta survived the one Kuririn threw on Earth, because it was weakened after Vegeta gave Goku a beating.
Note for any slightly uncomfortable gay jokes - the editor/director is gay and he's the one that wrote those jokes. Just for a lil context. They still cringe at some of their own jokes in retrospect, but in general the writing gets better as we go on. Aaand just so you know in the context of the show only Piccolo had been wished back at this point, and King Kai arranged for the Ginyu Force to show up and test the other fighters' abilities. (In this version King Kai just kicks em straight to HFIL)
I think it was Bardock, Father of Goku. In their creator commentary series, TFS covered World's Strongest right after episode 52, I think? It was their 2M sub celebratory upload. But you could totally keep it in this list too, timing wise. Then just add the first Bardock special and you're good. :3
@@christophervanoster That might have been the second Bardock special where he goes super saiyan. I don't remember the exact release timeline anymore, but I know they did two different Bardock specials.
Yeah, I was just talking to someone about the Spirit Bomb and how it is TOTALLY worthless. It failed to kill Vegeta and Frieza in the official series. I totally don't want people to talk trash about the Distructo Disk ever again.
To be fair, its supposed to destroy evil, and we know that, deep down, both Vegeta and Freiza aren't truly evil, they were moreso just bad people, as both have shown they're willing to work with the good guys to do the right thing (Vegeta moreso, Freiza less so, but the point remains the same. Freiza's willing to put aside being "Evil" to do the right thing). It certainly did a lot of damage to both, but presumably it can't actually kill someone unless they're truly pure evil, which would match with its general "doesn't hurt good people" deal, and why it worked against a certain other non-movie villain.
Sapient? Voluntary? Where you got that from? It draws from everything that has energy, even inanimate objects. _Sentient_ creatures might be able to withdraw their energy from the genkidama, if they have the knowledge how to control energy. And the user of the genkidama might be able to direct what he draws from.
@@somedudewatchintv5297 that's because he promised King Kai he would only ever use ambient or freely given energy. The Spirit Bomb can straight up erase things from existence by completely draining them of their fundamental energy (however it's even slower to do that gathering free/given energy). That's why he was reluctant to teach the technique to anyone, and only taught it to Goku, since he trusted him to keep his word. Draining even a small amount of fundamental energy could make a spirit bomb powerful enough to obliterate the entire planet or even potentially chunks of the solar system, which makes it both extremely impractical and ludicrously dangerous. in the manga, Goku even considers breaking the Rule due to how bad the situation on Namek was, before deciding to try and use energy from the other planets instead. And probably would've done so vs Buu if there wasn't an alternative.
@@somedudewatchintv5297 Either a retcon or a quirk rule being in otherworld. In every other instance, saiyan saga, namek saga, genkidama draws from animals, plants, suns and planets alike. Also recall they had to revive the population of earth before being able to draw energy from them, suggesting souls have no energy in otherworld, otherwise they wouldn't need revive them in order to ask. Or better yet, they could wish for more than enough energy from Porunga.
Regarding movies/specials at this point may as well finish episode 30 first and then do them. You just might want to leave DBZ Kai episodes 1&2 for last, as they'll serve as a bit of a recap to bring you back on track before jumping into ep 31. Other than that, the ones to watch would be these, and then ideally keep up with the list order as Kai 2.9 works best immediately after ep 31, especially with how long the gaps between these videos tend to be: Bardock Special Christmas Tree of Might (2 parts) Dead Zone movie The World's Strongest movie (was released quite later in the series, but narratively makes most sense to watch now in terms or timeline and power scaling) Lord Slug movie (has after credits) Revenge of Cooler movie Episode of Bardock movie (has after credits) DBZ Kai ep 1-2
Spirit bomb takes energy but doesn’t just kill at most just knock someone out if they purposefully give everything they got but not killing. Also charging always relys how much power being used. Frieza didn’t need to charge much because he isn’t using more than his full power. He wasn’t even trying that hard so using attacks not as much a strain while goku it charging it to be many times more than what he can do with and getting energy from surrounding worlds so that’s obviously gonna take time.
Piccolo not dead Krillin is. You pretty much missed the whole charging the Spirit Bomb joke. The joke dates back to Raditz v Goku and Piccolo; where Piccolo said I have an attack but I need to charge it for 5 minutes. Judging by how he(Raditz) was kicking their buts oh never mind you got this.
The ginyus weren't supposed to go to King Kais but thanks to the power of filler they escaped Yema and attempted to invade King Kais planet. In the og of course.
I have never seen more unbridled stupidity than the suggestion that a manga from the 80s-90s copied the trope of charging an attack from a 2010 film, followed by the complaint that "he doesn't have to charge his attack" while Freeza is clearly charging his attack. That mixed with the entire misunderstanding of the dead people on King Kai's planet makes me wonder wtf she thinks is even happening in this show.
3:25 They only wished back Piccolo because that would bring back the Dragonballs on Earth. They used the second wish to bring piccolo to Nemek. Then the guru died so no third wish, lol.
Personally, I'd say watch 30, then go back and catch up on specials and the like before starting season 3. You're literally on the cusp of one of the single greatest moments in anime history, and I think TFS did a fantastic job with it.
EDIT: I forgot to add this earlier, but as a show of how good the writing was getting at this point, after Goku suggests the game of 20 questions, everyone collectively asks 20 questions...and then Krillin asks question 21 with "Can't you take a joke?"
So you could argue that Freeza killed him for breaking the rules. :P
Yeah, finish the season out and then catch up on all the side stuff is the best way for sure.
Excellent, thanks!
@ChicagoReacts Not a problem! Looking forward to the reactions!
yes the movies are great and it would have been better to watch them in a chronological order with the episodes.
Anyone with a halo over their head is dead. Particularly heroic characters can keep their bodies in the afterlife and train with King Kai.
The 4 members of the Ginyu force were brought in explicitly by King Kai to be sparring partners for the three remaining good guys on Kai's planet.
"In the middle of a fight" kind of describes most of DBZ.
"Next time on Dragonball Z, Goku continues charging his attack!" (For 3 episodes straight for the Genki Dama he hit Frieza with, IIRC)
4:15 “piss” is Australian slang for alcohol
Id likely say that most people are here because you are watching this. ive DBZA i dont even remember how many times and im here to see you react as someone who hasn't seen it. Who doesn't know DBZ super well, you are enjoying it which show how much their work has stood the test of time and it only gets better.
fun fact, most of the "gay" jokes were written by a gay guy so yeah lmao.
So? You think only a retarded guy could write retarded jokes? You think they can? Im just asking, cause im trying to follow your logic. Are knock knock jokes written only by doormen? I know what you're trying to say, but this type of thinking is what ruined comedy in the first place. Nothing personal againts you, I've just seen this dumb comment too many times under abridged videos.
Dende didn’t write any of the jokes
@@bradcarver8127He’s referring to Kaiser the editor of the show
Nawww ya don’t say.
The Spirit Bomb doesn't kill who or what it draws energy from to be made. The joke with the deer was just for the dark joke of the daddy deer dying.
The Spirit Bomb only takes a very small amount of ki. If a human has an average power level of 5, it takes 1, which the himans will recover within an hour or so. Those who can control their ki can focus and donate as much as they want to it.
Goku drawing from the planets in the vicinity of Planet Namek gave him a tiny bit from everything on them, like every individual blade of grass and leaf on every tree and bush, every string of kelp, all of the insects, fish, and animals, and all of that adds up to a gihugic Spirit Bomb. Frieza survived because Goku calculated the Spirit Bomb based on what he could sense Frieza's power level to be and *hoped* it'd be enough. As we saw, it fell a bit short of the necessary amount to take Frieza out.
Originally, to keep your body in the afterlife you had to be of a certain moral fiber. Not nessessarily 100% squiky clean, but a good person. That was later retconned to: once you're above a certain power threshold, you maintain your form. I'm not sure if it's ever expressly said in the Og show or manga, but that's what they show. People with power maintain their form while regular citizens become clouds/spirits.
2:47 “I got his middle”he was referring to a third middle leg on racoom.
Recoome is impressed himself
In anime filler, Kaiō told Yemma to send the Ginyu Force along to test the Earthlings' training progress.
kingkai just arrange for them to keep their bodies so they served as training for the z team still around
Both DBZ and the abridged series long precedes Megamind. Also Frieza didn't have to wait because it was a small part of his own energy rather than something he borrowed from elsewhere.
I don't fully remember but I think I meant that Megamind took the idea? Or rather, something similar happened in Megamind and I recognized it here as a trope, and I phrased it backwards 🤷🏼♀️
Fair enough, it is a common trope
@ChicagoReacts You did phrase it weird but you said "stole if FOR megamind" not from megamind but you said it quiet enough and in a weird phrasing to where it sounds like you said they stole it from megamind
DBZ out ages megamind by about 30 years lol
She’s probably talking about the abridged version
Birth of the Super Sayian. Best moment in anime history.
Everyone I know remember where they were when they saw Goku become super saiyan.
Sure if anyone said this yet, but as for Recoom, Burter, Jeice, and Guldo showing up with King Kai, in the original he requested them to be there as training fodder for the other three, however it was just as filler and utterly useless information.
The spirit bomb simply absorbs little amounts of energy haha, even in season 1 the deer thing was a joke that wasn't in the original show.
Also DBZ is an 80s-90s anime so it definitely doesn't copy anything on Megamind 😄 As for the end, yeah we were all at loss for words when it happened! Can't wait to see you react to the next episode, it's one of the best in the series!
Honestly I did know that Megamind came out after. I probably phrased it badly
@@ChicagoReactsalso energy absorbed into the spirt bomb can only be given voluntary so goku isn't stealing the energy
You said Megamind stole from DBZ, which makes sense timewise, but you stated it *very awkwardly*.
The way the Spirit Bomb work is Goku gathers "good" energy from any living source that he can find, gathers it up into a ball, and then throws it at something evil. The more evil something is, the more effective the Spirit Bomb is. It also doesn't harm the people that Goku gathers it from, and Goku can also get more good energy from them if they give it willingly. People who are pure of heart aren't affected at all, and it would just bounce off, kind of how Gohan did earlier in the series.
Ooh, that tracks.
Main callbacks. 1: on episode 2, piccolo had to charge his attack to kill radditz. He did that complete with needing 5 minutes and singing a song while Goku was beaten up. Thus his comment here "Did you just hold a grudge?" 2: At the start of season 2 Mr Popo looked at Krillin and went "This season.... you.." implying that he was going to die. That is why this after credits thing happened with the "called it".
Goku did catch a fish that big.
What song was playing when gohan screamed at picolo getting shot
Bartender? What’s next, toll booth operator? Grocery bagger? Taxi driver? Based, honestly.
This was still when RUclips had a 10min limit on videos
7:40 - notice how there were 20 questions asked in the episode
wow you almost went a minute without pausing.
The namekian dragon can only revive one person at a time, so only he was revived and then wished to namek. Making a spirit bomb only borrows a small amount of energy from something alive. By expanding the radius of where he was drawing from he was just Borrowing from more life forms
I don't remember if it's a thing in the original dub or it's a Thing of the Spanish dub that i grew up with but when goku gathers energy from a planet/s he always sort of begs for all the spare energy they can give him, one thing that is universal in every version is that 99.99% of the energy he gets is given consensually if he wants to make a ball bigger than a head
Spanish dub, saving the day once again
Frieza is probably the most iconic DBZ villain, but he is not the "main villain" of the series. DBZ is actually divided into 4 main arcs over 500ish episodes, with Frieza being the main bad of the 2nd arc, first being Vegeta. Abridged covers the first 3 arcs. And then there's like 18 movies, but that's a whole other story.
9:25 How could they steal an idea from a movie that was made decades after this anime’s manga was originally written?
The thing I hate about the Spirit Bomb is that if you have any even the smallest of goodness in you it won’t kill said person it hits. Which I hate because it means that Freezer has some stupid tiny itty bitty goodness for redemption unlike a certain villain from the saga that takes place two sagas from this one. Wording it this to avoid spoilers but people should know what saga I’m talking about.
No, Freeza didn't survived because he has some good in him, but because he's simply that sturdy.
The same way Vegeta survived the one Kuririn threw on Earth, because it was weakened after Vegeta gave Goku a beating.
That's not how Spirit Bomb works.
Note for any slightly uncomfortable gay jokes - the editor/director is gay and he's the one that wrote those jokes. Just for a lil context. They still cringe at some of their own jokes in retrospect, but in general the writing gets better as we go on.
Aaand just so you know in the context of the show only Piccolo had been wished back at this point, and King Kai arranged for the Ginyu Force to show up and test the other fighters' abilities. (In this version King Kai just kicks em straight to HFIL)
Lol, fun! Thanks
Episode 30 First, then the movies you’ve missed so far. Christmas tree of might, lord slug and I think worlds strongest
I think it was Bardock, Father of Goku. In their creator commentary series, TFS covered World's Strongest right after episode 52, I think? It was their 2M sub celebratory upload.
But you could totally keep it in this list too, timing wise. Then just add the first Bardock special and you're good. :3
@@djmagichat1721 I thought they did bardock after cooler?
@@christophervanoster That might have been the second Bardock special where he goes super saiyan. I don't remember the exact release timeline anymore, but I know they did two different Bardock specials.
The spirit bomb is the gofundme of dragon ball attacks.
Yeah, I was just talking to someone about the Spirit Bomb and how it is TOTALLY worthless. It failed to kill Vegeta and Frieza in the official series. I totally don't want people to talk trash about the Distructo Disk ever again.
It gets plenty of movie kills, though! Those count, right?
Well it did work on a certain pink mush thing and he absorbed it to kill an android so it works some of the time
To be fair, its supposed to destroy evil, and we know that, deep down, both Vegeta and Freiza aren't truly evil, they were moreso just bad people, as both have shown they're willing to work with the good guys to do the right thing (Vegeta moreso, Freiza less so, but the point remains the same. Freiza's willing to put aside being "Evil" to do the right thing). It certainly did a lot of damage to both, but presumably it can't actually kill someone unless they're truly pure evil, which would match with its general "doesn't hurt good people" deal, and why it worked against a certain other non-movie villain.
If Vegeta wasnt weakened by getting hit from a spirit bomb, he would've probably killed gohan even in gohan's giant ape form.
Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.
You people need to COPE harder, maybe that would make the Spirit Bomb less terrible.
Go with God and Be Safe from Evil. 😎 👍
Spirit Bomb doesn't kill anything, it only takes small amounts of energy in the show and from sapient being it's completely voluntary.
Sapient? Voluntary? Where you got that from? It draws from everything that has energy, even inanimate objects.
_Sentient_ creatures might be able to withdraw their energy from the genkidama, if they have the knowledge how to control energy. And the user of the genkidama might be able to direct what he draws from.
@StefanVeenstra from the Buu Saga. If Goku could just take the energy passively he would have and he wouldn't need Vageta or Hercule to ask.
Vegeta even tells people that they'll feel just a little tired like they just finished a good workout.
@@somedudewatchintv5297 that's because he promised King Kai he would only ever use ambient or freely given energy. The Spirit Bomb can straight up erase things from existence by completely draining them of their fundamental energy (however it's even slower to do that gathering free/given energy).
That's why he was reluctant to teach the technique to anyone, and only taught it to Goku, since he trusted him to keep his word.
Draining even a small amount of fundamental energy could make a spirit bomb powerful enough to obliterate the entire planet or even potentially chunks of the solar system, which makes it both extremely impractical and ludicrously dangerous.
in the manga, Goku even considers breaking the Rule due to how bad the situation on Namek was, before deciding to try and use energy from the other planets instead.
And probably would've done so vs Buu if there wasn't an alternative.
@@somedudewatchintv5297 Either a retcon or a quirk rule being in otherworld. In every other instance, saiyan saga, namek saga, genkidama draws from animals, plants, suns and planets alike.
Also recall they had to revive the population of earth before being able to draw energy from them, suggesting souls have no energy in otherworld, otherwise they wouldn't need revive them in order to ask. Or better yet, they could wish for more than enough energy from Porunga.
Regarding movies/specials at this point may as well finish episode 30 first and then do them. You just might want to leave DBZ Kai episodes 1&2 for last, as they'll serve as a bit of a recap to bring you back on track before jumping into ep 31. Other than that, the ones to watch would be these, and then ideally keep up with the list order as Kai 2.9 works best immediately after ep 31, especially with how long the gaps between these videos tend to be:
Bardock Special
Christmas Tree of Might (2 parts)
Dead Zone movie
The World's Strongest movie (was released quite later in the series, but narratively makes most sense to watch now in terms or timeline and power scaling)
Lord Slug movie (has after credits)
Revenge of Cooler movie
Episode of Bardock movie (has after credits)
DBZ Kai ep 1-2
yep watch bardock special before 30
"Can't you take a joke?" was Question 21.
Spirit bomb takes energy but doesn’t just kill at most just knock someone out if they purposefully give everything they got but not killing.
Also charging always relys how much power being used. Frieza didn’t need to charge much because he isn’t using more than his full power. He wasn’t even trying that hard so using attacks not as much a strain while goku it charging it to be many times more than what he can do with and getting energy from surrounding worlds so that’s obviously gonna take time.
Yeah, eps 30 first, then the film
"Bartender" reacts to DBZ. Is the fact that you're a bartender supposed to make me watch your videos more?
"... Yes." - Goku
Next episode is the Legendary scene that changed anime FOREVER
I'm on the edge of my seat
Stole from Megamind?….. you know DBZ came out in the 1989 right???
I don't quite remember exactly what I was thinking because I know that DBZ is way older than MM. No clue where my brain was
Piccolo not dead Krillin is. You pretty much missed the whole charging the Spirit Bomb joke. The joke dates back to Raditz v Goku and Piccolo; where Piccolo said I have an attack but I need to charge it for 5 minutes. Judging by how he(Raditz) was kicking their buts oh never mind you got this.
Dragon Ball Z came way before Megamind
I absolutely love that a bartender is watching the bullshit we argure about. You got a new fan, ma'am
The ginyus weren't supposed to go to King Kais but thanks to the power of filler they escaped Yema and attempted to invade King Kais planet. In the og of course.
In the OG, King Kai told Yema to send them to his planet so that Yamcha, Tien, and Chautzu could fight them and see how much stronger they had gotten
@@alexanderren1097 thought that was a anime only filler section?
@@silentassason Oh. I meant the OG show. I’m not a weeb so I don’t read magna
Watch the bardoc movie
I have never seen more unbridled stupidity than the suggestion that a manga from the 80s-90s copied the trope of charging an attack from a 2010 film, followed by the complaint that "he doesn't have to charge his attack" while Freeza is clearly charging his attack. That mixed with the entire misunderstanding of the dead people on King Kai's planet makes me wonder wtf she thinks is even happening in this show.
Nooooo. No 2 episodes
I guarantee you that Dragon Ball Z did not get the concept of charging attacks from Megamind.