Yes! I watched the first FMa when I was like.. 11 or 12 (26 now). I've watched Brotherhood multiple times since it came out but I never rewatched the first one. Might be because I don't want to taint the memory, or because I listen to this song every time I think about rewatching it and I remember that I actually like sleeping and don't want to pee my bed.
if you can somehow mix all the good in Fullmetal Alchemist and all the good in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, you'd have the perfect anime unrivaled by anything that has come before it.
Lillies Rain their both good, but 03 is amazing, mature, and unique. Brotherhood is your standard run of the mill Shōnen anime. Except it does Shōnen to perfection.
Sanvero Selverna Watch 2003 up to rush valley then swap to brotherhood and watch from there Tho 2003 has a brilliant ending with Dante, Wrath and Roy deceiving Bradly but there are still 4 seasons of BH left when compared to the 20 or so in 2003 Also let’s face it BH does a terrible job a the start with it rushing so many plot lines and even combining them to move onto the things not in 2003, but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure people disagree
@@rafaelcastor2089 Except the mother doesn't actually love her children and just sees them as a means to an end, so she sings them lullabies and puts on a facade to make them think she loves them, but none of her actions have any real warmth.
No one’s body can truly last forever. The things that they do and the memories that people hold of their work, however, is what makes them truly immortal in the world. Whether good or bad, they stick with us, and no one ever forgets them. In that regard, eternal life does exist.
I remember as a kid feeling like it marked a change in tone, a coming to the end (since I remember having to wait for the latter half of the series for so long)
In Shonens Dante is a very unique character, primarily her simplicity (Unlike super-charismatic cyber-samurai with sharingans instead of eyes). Many will consider this a shortcoming of the script, but in fact it is a universal archetype - "Evil Devouring Mother" - a negative aspect of the maternal figure. For clarity, the most notable example of the embodiment of this image was in "Snow White". This is the Queen, Stepmother of Snow White. Dante in general can be called the stepmother of Ed and undoubtedly she is the Queen of her own kingdom (although the second is not so important). Just remember how she desperately fights for life and eternal beauty, and what she wants to do with Rosa (snow white). Of course, I'm far away from the archetype in general and went to the character of the queen, it's just an interesting parallels. But the root in both cases is the same. When we think of Archetypes, we mostly talk about the unconscious. What is the essence of what we experience in relation to the mother? The personal experience of each individual is of course unique, but the archetype is the archetype that includes the most General idea. In the last analysis it is the magical authority of all that is feminine; wisdom and spiritual height beyond reason; something benign, something giving shelter, something fraught, bearing something, the giver of growth, fertility and sustenance; the place of magical re-realization and rebirth; a contributing and helping instinct or impulse. This is the positive aspect of the Archetype of mother that Trisha embodies. Dante represents the aspect of the "Evil Devouring Mother" concealing something hidden, something dark-somnolent, the abyss, the world of the dead, something swallowing, seducing and poisoning, something exciting fear and inevitable. In the culture of this way embody the witch, dragon, any swallowing or wrapped around the animal victim, whether a big fish or a snake (Ouroboros). In the context of the analysis of the image of Dante, I think it is important to note the role of the symbol of Ouroboros. I will not dwell on it, but it is a very important detail. Ouroboros is a symbol of the eternal cycle of rebirth. This very clearly illustrates, what represents from themselves Dante, which so many times changed bodies. Ouroboros also applies to homunculi. After all, a homunculus is the rebirth of another person. Hence the mark of Ouroboros. Also Ouroboros has the meaning of the end of the world. He comes to the edge, biting its own tail. Literally devouring itself. What happened to Dante? It has reached the limit of its possibilities, its end is coming. What happened? The cause of her death was "gluttony" (this can be taken as a metaphor), which got out of her control. She literally devoured herself. Exactly like the Ouroboros. I really like the work of writers. Summing up my thoughts, we can say that the final confrontation between Dante and Edward is a confrontation between Archaic and Modernism. Nature against Humanity. Archaic thinking presupposes the inseparability of man from nature. in Jung's typology, Dante is the "Evil Devouring mother", the Archetype of the mother is the personification of nature, matter, capable of both giving life and taking away. There is nothing spiritual about Dante. The more noticeable the physiology of her image. In scene the first meeting Dante with Hohenheim can be discern as she revels in own youth and offers "try new body", in the other scene she predatory looks on Rosa (more precisely on its body). She's also upset that she missed the opportunity to "enjoy the love (sex)" of Edward. This is a real animal, praising the frailty and meaninglessness of its existence. All the more vividly felt her absolutely animal fear of death. She is the personification of an ancient irrational fear and as a consequence of the evil generated by this fear. In a monologue with Edward, she literally says "Its cruel and random world and yet the chaos is all so beautiful". In her opinion, the cruelty of the world in the order of things-if we live in the jungle you need to be animals and live by the law of the jungle. This is Archaic thinking. In this regard, it is especially ironic that her name is Dante. One of the main interpretations of Dante Alighieri's divine Comedy is the victory over death, over flesh, over earthly existence. It's the exact opposite of Dante from FMA. She is afraid of death, strives to satisfy carnal desires, and she does not care about her own soul, because with every "jump" her soul is split. It's really funny. This contrast makes her character even more insignificant and alienating... But that in my opinion is the greatness of this character.
@@EvilSapphireR I also refer to the identification of the mother figure with the material world and nature. Archaic thinking is built on a holistic psychology, unity with the environment and subordination to its laws, and therefore subordination to the principles of extolling immanent attributes, carnality, irrationality and determinism. These are all aspects of the archaic world that Dante expresses
Say what you want about Dante . She was the best antagonist this franchise ever had. Just as direct and cruel as reality itself. I loved how she crushed Ed's point of view of the "law"
Why should I love any human being? They are all ignorant, egoistical things beyond redemption. Once they learned how to use gun powder, they thought only about waging war. If they ever understood the secrets of alchemy, what a horrible tragedy that would be.
i know way different anime but i cant resist. Escanor: im human and who stands a top of all races also Escanor: Who decided that im the one who decides such things in my world.
@@LofusRose Indeed, but Revan is no antagonist. So Dante can still be a great one compared to "him" if that's what you were going for. Honestly KOTOR an FMA are my favorite stories... like ever.
fullmetal alchemist is easily for me in the top 5 best anime of all time. No need of 1000 episodes to emphasize their greatness but the content and the philosophy will never be equaled. I can re-watch this series 1000 times and I wont get tired
Watched this anime in 2013 and i cant even describe the nostalgia this song is making me feel. . Thank you Hiromi Arakawa and bones studio for this masterpiece. This fellow is grateful. Love from India 🇮🇳
@@ultron1191 Only one me. I have too much integrity to be portrayed by an unfitting actor in a poorly-written movie that wastes 2 hours and 22 minutes of everyone's time and kills one of The Avengers before they even officially become a member of the team. And judging from your response, I take it you're supposed to be the shitty James Spader Ultron who gets easily wasted by Vision like a chump.
Broho is great, but it lacks the bittersweet nihilistic tone of 2003. I'd say they both accomplish what their stories set out to do in equal measure, but their stories are so different that they shouldn't be compared. . .
Totally true, both shared a similar story but they truly were able to have a different direction while also keeping the personality of the characters and it makes them both (at least for me) incredible interesting to watch each one, kinda helps to make all characters stronger while facing different situations, motivations and feelings.
Everyone calls Dante crazy. Evil. Cowardly for her miserable life. And it really is. And also everyone believes that Hohenheim left her for this very reason. But... Let's not confuse cause and effect. What was Dante originally like? We can learn this from her own words in the following dialogue: "Al: - Dante, why did you decide to become an alchemist? Dante: - Well, the reason was quite ordinary. I just wanted to help people. People need alchemy. Although this does not mean that you can not do without it. And yet, alchemy helps to make people happy. It would be nice if the efforts of those who strive for happiness were always rewarded. That's how I thought." Why do I think she was telling the truth? Because her current views are literally saturated with nihilism, rejection of people. Only a person who was once sincerely (and naively) convinced of the opposite can come to such a pronounced nihilism. But apparently, at some point she met Hohenheim and fell in love with him... And instead of helping people, she blindly helped him in all his apparently scientific affairs. In the creation of the Philosopher's stone in particular. They have ruined many lives for their own purposes. I believe that the main initiator of the search for the philosopher's stone was Hohenheim. But Dante looks in this case like the one who just blindly follows her beloved. And so, her lover almost died. She can't let him die. She saves him, at the cost of someone else's life. Let's be honest, quite a few of us would have done the same. And what's next? They live together like lovers. Dante gives birth to a child from Hohenheim. They raised him for 18 years until he died... Then they decide to revive his son, but only a homunculus, the future Envy, is born. And what does Hohenheim do? He's just... Left Dante. He left his son. Yes, it was a homunculus, but so what? He was aware of himself as the son of Hohenheim. Envy felt like the same person, had all his memories. Envy felt almost the same as Edward, being also abandoned by the same father. Dante... Can you imagine how she felt? Left alone in such a situation, being no longer with the most stable mind, it is natural that she went completely mad. And all why? Because Hohenheim is a coward. He did not take responsibility for the Envy. He did not take responsibility for the one who sincerely loves him. He left Dante literally in Hell. Alone. She was left by the man she loved, whose life she once saved at the cost of another person's life. I don't think many people can boast that they could have kept their sanity in such a situation. And what do we see after 400 years? Both continue to jump from one body to the other. Dante has finally become disillusioned with humanity, and out of her despair continues to prolong her meaningless life. And Hohenheim does the same. Moreover, unlike his magnificent version from the Brotherhood, the Hohenheim of Light did not dare to tell Trisha the whole truth about himself. And again he abandoned his sons. It's funny to realize that Edward and Envy have a lot in common in this regard. They are even more brothers than one could imagine. And the most disgusting thing is that Hohenheim has not learned lessons from the past. What does he do when he meets Lieutenant Maria Ross? He's fucking flirting with her! Moreover, seeing that she takes it seriously. He just keeps playing with people's feelings. Knowing that he had once driven Dante to madness with such irresponsibility. And at the same time, later hypocritically declaring to Dante that he is married when she hints to him about "testing her new young body." And then their dialogue, which finally makes it clear what a pathetic person Hohenheim is. "Hohenheim: - Trisha was the FIRST and ONLY woman I ever loved" Dante: - Really? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you whisper tender words of love to me four centuries ago Hohenheim: "Let's not talk about it..." Very nasty of him. If Van Hohenheim is a hero, then the Hohenheim of Light is an irresponsible coward who simply abandoned everyone when anyone needed him. Someone who has not learned any lessons from his mistakes, and continues to take people's lives. And Dante... Yes, she has turned into a monster who has lost all the positive part of her humanity. And even in this situation, it is clear that she still retains feelings for Hohenheim and her pain. Almost perfectly hiding it behind his monster disguise. If you look at it this way, then Dante is a woman with a very sad fate. Therefore, it is fundamentally wrong to say that Hohenheim left her because she is insane. Cause and effect should not be confused.
Sounds like someone has a personal investment in Dante's innocence I think the point is that yes, things were different once but one of them realized what they are doing is wrong. Don't get me wrong, If my lover died I would do It in a heartbeat and she would do the same 😶 but there is something to be said that one started to view people as an ends to a means and the other decided... He didn't want to keep hurting people. Dante makes a fantastic villain BECAUSE she's so human. Father was a JRPG super boss... Dante was a person who didn't want to die and was willing to watch the world burn. Also FMA 2003 + movie is a better story than brotherhood in my eyes
@@iantaran2843 Agree :) "one of them realized what they are doing is wrong" Yes, because despite all the mistakes and negative traits of Hohenheim, he was a morally stronger and more mature person when compared with Dante. Dante was dependent on him, to some extent fanatical. And a person like her is almost incapable of developing positive qualities in the condition of being near the object of her fanaticism. Especially if he himself is a very ambiguous person and does not seek to be responsible for those to whom he is dear. Not capable of growing up. She just doesn't see anything around. And being in an ordinary society, such a person, even being broken, is unlikely to bring so much trouble to others. But if you give a broken person such power, it will turn a broken, "immature" person into a monster. And what's great about Dante as an antagonist is that it's easy to believe that such a person can exist in reality. Initially, a not bad, but weak person who succumbed to everything bad. And you also made a great comparison with your Father :D
@@iantaran2843 i also prefer the story of 03, despite the fact i watched brotherhood first and initially disliked 03 when i watched that (i was one of the fools that thought "this isnt faithful to manga so its bad" and stopped about halfway through, only giving it a second chance years late). And Dante being such a good villain is part of why. You are completely accurate in how you describe Father. Yes he had motives and reason, but it was just "i want knowledge" and he was basically just evil to the core and he got so ridiculously OP at the end and then was basically beaten through the power of friendship. Dante was a much more realistic villain and then it was so fitting that she died by being consumed by her sin (Gluttony). You can see how Dante grew to be the way she is, whereas with Father its clear he was always that way.
This makes more sense when you consider the cost of human transmutation. Hohenheim and Dante definitely lost parts of their minds/souls/sanities when they created envy, greed, and pride because they could jump into another body and evade a physical cost like the one ed and al had to pay. Hohenheim lost his ability to commit, leaving behind envy for all who loved him, dante gave into her greedy desire for a new husband (greed was her old lover), and became consumed by greedy fear of losing her immortality. She gave into her desire for control and became consumed by pride (Creating king bradley and priding herself on creating a homunculus that can age). Dante was correct in telling Ed that she was no longer human, but she had no idea how far from humanity she really was.
From what happened I'm guessing that Hohenheim was just as crazy and immoral as the Dante we see, maybe even more. It's entirely possible that a large reason for why Dante is the person she is today is because she's just following the same example that Hohenheim gave her, but he eventually saw that they won't be immortal no matter how many times they jump bodies so he left her. When she talks about how she was an innocent, it tells us that she was a virgin, but it might say even more, maybe she was a young naive girl, desperate to learn from Van Hohenheim, who may have been a rich accomplished scientist. And his interaction with Maria Ross means that he is kind of a womanizer. I think that he was a groomer who took advantage of her by hiring her as some sort of lab assistant. And I think that she wasn't the first. There could have been a long line of assistants who he seduced and then abandoned when he got bored. She was just the only one who was there when he finally created the philosopher's stone, so he didn't dump her, especially after she saved his life. Another negative aspect of Hohenheim is that he's not even there to stop Dante, he just wants her to leave Ed and Al out of it, if she had found another philosopher's stone without them, he would have continued to stay away from her. Even though the philosopher's stone needs human sacrifices, most likely innocent. Of course Dante is still to blame, she's been away from Hohenheim for centuries and has had time to reflect on her own actions. She has just as much evidence as him that they won't have immortality no matter how many stones they make or how many bodies they jump to. Her most recent body is rotting and she hasn't even been in it for a year.
This always creeped me out. It's so dark and ominous, making you think Dante is an evil demon or something. Well, she was certainly a villain, but still a person
She's just a person, a woman whose son died, and the man she loved, whose life she saved, just left her. It can break almost anyone, which would be a tragedy. But if it breaks a person with the power of "god", it will be a disaster.
I listen to this and pictured light. Just shows how people's perceptions aren't the same, to me this theme sounds light and beautiful, to you its dark and grim.
gotta say a fun fact about dante and hohenheim: dante's vessels rot faster due to her rotting soul. And if u dont want that idea to read, then she also is like that due to trying to revert her current vessel into the shape and look of her original body. this obviously fails each time, but does she really care? hohenheim however in 03 and Brotherhood/Manga: his rotting is assumed slower due to hohenheim actually not having his soul and body rot over alchemic cosmetics, switching to different vessels, and actually understanding mortality better.
Dante is very good if you don't try to extrapolate her role to the entire story. She has never been the biggest threat in the plot. The main "antagonist" of the series was the idea of the Philosopher's Stone itself, as Ed concludes at the end of his last conversation with Mustang. She is more of a final puzzle piece of the more general threat of people's concern for the search for the Holy Grail (the Philosopher's Stone). After all, the threat of the idea that there is something in the world that can change the course of history and its salvation, which was independently pursued, for example, by Basque Grand and Scar, is the root of the story. Dante only occupied a niche and a role whose meaning was to preserve the status quo, but she was not the reason for all the atrocities, unlike the dwarf in the flask. The point was that the story needed a scapegoat, an antagonist who could express this general idea of the evils of the world. Because this evil would exist without her, everyone would continue to search for the stone and there would be war, and someone would surely take her place is something more conceptual, while without the actions of the dwarf in the flask, the entire plot of the original manga would not exist. By defeating the dwarf in the flask, the world would be at peace as we see in the end of Brotherhood.
Izumi: Did you even love anyone but yourself?! Dante: "Why should I love any human being? Theyre just ignoring egotistical things beyond any redemption. After discovering gun powder, they would only wage it for war. What tradegy would it be if they discovered the secrets of alchemy?"
I love how her theme progresses throughout the anime, mirroring that she’s getting closer and closer to accomplishing her goals of getting a philosopher stone and then it explodes into a full blown orchestra when she’s sure she’s won (not to mention the music is canon as she’s heard listening to her theme dozens of times).
Fullmetal alchemist (2003) was the first anime I ever watched. When I finished it, I honestly thought that it was dropped, never completed. You know, it's a story about two brothers who mess up big time and then try to make things right again, to get their bodies back, so I expected that to happen - "maybe, they'll eventually use the philosopher stone, or Hohenheim will show up and hocus pocus Alphonse back. Or the'll give it up and just learn to live hapilly, even if crippled....", I thought. But Dante showed up and was all like "Screw you, you, you, me, everyone, nobody gets even remotely happy ending", and I was all like "huh, this sucks, well I hope they'll figure something out next episode...wait, where's the next episode? This can't be end yet, everything is incomplete, nobody acomplished anything..." But THAT was the ending, there was no next episode, no another chance, and there never will be...
Pokemon Red/Blue - Lavender Town, Jet Set Radio - Grace and Glory, and Fullmetal Alchemist Dante's Theme are definitely the spookiest songs I've ever heard. This one sounds like slow motion shadow demons coming out of the ground and absorbing away everyone.
This is the song that has stuck with me for years on years since watching fma originally and I never went back to find it and I always thought of hohenheim when I heard this, God I need to rewatch the show
The original series will always and forever be better than Brotherhood. Much rather have a personal, complex, dramatic, and characteristic storytelling versus that same old grandiose and action shonen slugfest that we’ve seen millions of times already, especially when plot armors, unexplained random power ups which in turn create plot holes, cheesy & corny trivia messages, and a Disney-ish ending where all ends well.
Father was like a comic book villain where the author kept cranking up the threat scale for dramatic effect, Dante was less grand, but she was far more grounded, and in return, felt more like a threat. And i feel like she had a more interesting backstory with Hoenheim.
If there was a live action TV series, I would mix Dante and father's character together, dante being a humunculus dwarf in the flask before van hohenheim and the destruction of xerxes, which gives her a female body whom van hohenheim initially fell in love with and entered into a whirl-wind romance with her that would give birth to a child. This child and them lived happily till the child died of mercury poisoning and van hohenheim would try to use human transmutation to bring the child back. Creating a deformed and bloody humanoid with a piece of the childs soul still inside him. envy is the first human based humunculus, unable to face up to what he had done to his son, van hohenheim would abandon both dante and envy. Envy would be a malformed humanoid form for a few years, unable to speak, but constantly bleeding and crying as Dante rearranged his body with all the skill of a mad chiropractor, feeding him small fragments of her Philosopher's Stone every few days to relieve the pain just enough for him to sleep until she discovered how to make mass quantities through the slaughter of many, which allowed him to take on a proper human shape and finally take away the physical pain, the abandonment of hohenheim and envy's creation would cause dante to decide to absorb god and become immortal and creates amestris exactly for that purpose. Envy's hatred for his father and need to kill him would be intact and it will be his main goal. Whereas the rest just want to serve Dante in her quest to absorb God, envy wants to kill van hohenheim. His hatred for doctor Marco being rooted in the fact that all alchemist remind him of his father. His killing of the ishvallan girl being rooted in intense jealousy of seeing her with her parents. His hatred for Edward being rooted in the fact that the elric brothers received the fatherly love that he never did. I mixed the strong elements of 2003 and brotherhood...the uniqueness, plot function, philosophy, and endgame of the original father...and the personal history and relationship with van hohenheim that dante and envy have. Creating a singular strong character.
To add on to that, I'd keep Gluttony the same as his Brotherhood/manga self where he's a failed attempt at creating an artificial Door to the Truth. Bradley would be Pride like in 2003, but would mostly take after his manga/Brotherhood self. Lust and Sloth would be the same as their 2003 selves. As for Greed, I love his character arc in Brotherhood, but in 2003 he played a vital role in pushing Edward's character in a darker direction. I'm not sure which version I'd want to use or how I'd combine them. Wrath would be the failed transmutation of Izumi's son like in 2003, but with the powers of manga/Brotherhood's Pride. After Izumi abandons the deformed abomination that her son became when she tried to resurrect him with alchemy, the homunculus child is discovered by Dante, who is Izumi's mentor just like in 2003, who then fixes his physical form like she did for her own son. Dante then has Pride raise Wrath as his son naming him Selim Bradley.
AND also the story of the Homunculus in FMA, their story in 2003 is a lot better than in Broho, but Broho added AMAZING characters like Mira, Ling, Lan Fan, Fu, May, and the Chimeras just to name a few.
@@stevenirizarry1304 So instead of getting with the girl he's known his whole life and who is always there to fix him up when he's beat down, Ed instead enters an incestuous relationship with his murderous half brother and has a kid with him AND this is while Ed is in his early teens while Envy is hundreds of years old? You just need a few things before your idea is ready to be published. 1. a therapist 2. Jesus 3. Chris Hansen
MzShaybutta I like some aspects of brotherhood over the first version, but if I had to choose, I’m not sure which I would go for. They’re both quite good. But I don’t like the fact that Edward marries Winry. I never cared for that character.
@@fortunamajor580 FMA 2003 is more nihilistic and doesn't wrap everything up in a nice neat package, but the actually STORY was way more dope. I liked that the homunculi had more selfish purposes to why they were how they were. In Brotherhood they were just father's lackeys, which didn't make sense to me when he was a homunculi just like them. Only Greed in Brotherhood had any sort of a agenda. Plus I like the sloth better in FMA 2003.
@@MzShaybutta Also,the Homunculi being the sins of the protagonists and humanity as opposed to a third party who was also a manmade monster like themselves makes them more psychologically poignant and effective as antagonists and emotional foils as well as better emphasizing their parallels to Frankenstein`s Monster.
I wonder if the world will ever really appreciate the innocent beauty, in something so simple as melodies such as these. There are so many, from Motzart to Bach! I love that FMA can be an evaluation of the persecution during WWII. It is beautiful to remember the horrors, and feel a sense of humanity. But I have some doubt! The minorities trully have suffered!
FMA is not so much the persecution during WWII in fact the time periods in the shows do not add up, it is more similar to WW1 and the collapse of the idealized image set up by ones society though it does have elements of both it is likely closer to WW1 and the Interwar period than anything
@@m3lody_fae I love Brotherhood, but 03 just had that… feeling to it. And I agree with the rushing thing, I was disappointed that there was so little time for the characters to just be there as themselves
I'm on my first run of the anime and tried hard to stay off the hype train (yes even after all these years) but this track solidified me being a fan. It's so damn good.
I feel Dante to be a far more darker character then the dwarf in flask. Its because Dante is relateable. The urge to increase ones life and now it ultimately leads to deterioration of ones soul and humanity. I FRIGGIN LOVE the phylosophy behind FMA. However FMAB isnt about phylosophy at all. Its only about fast pased action. So if ur an intellectual person and watch animes for their fascinating psyhology and stpry then FMA is for u. If ur just into action and dont like phylosophy then watch FMAB. Both cator to different kind lf anime viewers.
If ypu really think that fmab its not phylosophic you are: Stupid or just a fma 2003 close mind fanboy That a story its darker doesnt mean that its better or more phylosophic its just means darker And honestly if you think that a think created by humans and in a frask that kills a hole country only manupulating humans as he wanted you are just stupid or you are so blind by your fanboying over fma 2003 to not see it But i agree in that the story its darker but not better than fmab
I don't consider myself an intellectual being or having amazing taste on it. But sure i can tell the first FMA was way deeper. Cruel and i consider Dante a better antagonist than father. Fmab was Great as a shonen. But the direction, storytelling and characterization of some of the characters were handled better on FMA than FMAb. This last one was more about action and characters achieving their dreams. I choose this one because it was more realistic. And edward came to terms with his father and actions...
@@sergioruiz8247 it's not necessary to be offended by his opinion, the way you're acting makes you a sad fanboy. Who can't come to terms with diversity of ideas Please , stop embarrassing yourself. It's pathetic reading you.. And he's right. FmaB it's just a full packed shonen with the bright side of the story compared to the first FMA. It lacks deep , cruelty and a lot of elements the first series had Just compared mina or hughes death with the Brotherhood one and you'll see how superior the direction of the first one was. I'll give brotherhood how they explored their worldbuilding better and the action was amazing But from a philosophical point of view. First FMA was a way deeper. Darker and the storytelling was better . No debate needed about it.
I always thing that the song is the tragedy of a seductive woman. She always show like is in control, and is the most evil, free egoistic being alive . But the true is that she do everything in the name of hohenheim.
When Edward found the hidden city underground (ep 52 i think), he went to a theater hall where Rose and Dante were waiting for him, and Rose was dancing on a orchestral music.. anyone knows the title of it
Top anime songs: Not in order. -Dante Theme -Cha la head cha la -Sono Chi no Sadame -Gurenge -Unravel -Uunan and the Stone Storage Room -Naruto Main Theme -The Walk If you know what "The Walk" is, then you know. If you don't, then I'll tell you. It's "Overtaken".
Nice touch from 04:09 to 04:21, the woman's voice sounds older, conveying exactly that no matter how much you try, you're still going to age. Nothing more suitable for Dante, for that matter.
Listening to this makes me want to throw up in nervousness. It just exudes that unnerving atmosphere and I end up nauseous (if it's not already obvious, I meant everything I said in a good way)
Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood made me forget about Original Full Metal Alchemist. All I remember is Trishas Lullaby Soundtrack. I recommend sticking to FMA:B if you plan to present this Masterpiece of a Series to a younger generation.
I will never understand why it is that huge Hollywood productions and massive budget tv series have generic music, but anime ost’s absolutely SLAP
Clearly you never heard listened to the soundtrack from Game of Thrones
@@pisces2569🤓
Back then? Yes. But not anymore.
@@pisces2569 lets drunk together my little boy , im pisces too , but ehhhh , GoT shit
generic?
This theme absolutely fucks. I'm rewatching 2003 and I had forgotten about it, it really sets the mood for her scenes.
So it penetrates is another way to say it
@@matthewlarios. Yes. This song assaults people. You are correct.
Yes! I watched the first FMa when I was like.. 11 or 12 (26 now). I've watched Brotherhood multiple times since it came out but I never rewatched the first one. Might be because I don't want to taint the memory, or because I listen to this song every time I think about rewatching it and I remember that I actually like sleeping and don't want to pee my bed.
after 6 months watching it, still feel the raising hairs of my arms
This actually played on a radio in Dante’s house several times while she was an old lady.
@@andrewmarlin6132 you rekt this man
Its not a radio but a record player.
Thanks Kakyoin, very cool
Kakyoin Noriaki KAKYOIN! lick lick lick lick 🍒
The donut ma- Kakyoin has spoken
So what you will, but both Fullmetal Alchemist’s are extremely good in their own ways.
if you can somehow mix all the good in Fullmetal Alchemist and all the good in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, you'd have the perfect anime unrivaled by anything that has come before it.
*Alchemists
Lillies Rain their both good, but 03 is amazing, mature, and unique. Brotherhood is your standard run of the mill Shōnen anime. Except it does Shōnen to perfection.
そのとーり(タケモトピアノvo.)
Sanvero Selverna
Watch 2003 up to rush valley then swap to brotherhood and watch from there
Tho 2003 has a brilliant ending with Dante, Wrath and Roy deceiving Bradly but there are still 4 seasons of BH left when compared to the 20 or so in 2003
Also let’s face it BH does a terrible job a the start with it rushing so many plot lines and even combining them to move onto the things not in 2003, but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure people disagree
"Humans who dare to play God must pay a steep price for their arrogance."
Wrong adaptation, dude (if I remember right) XD
"That is Truth!"
If I recall correctly that's what Edward told Rose in Lyor.
i know way different anime but i cant resist.
Escanor: Who decided that
Out of Shadows Documentary
There's something about this song that makes me feel unerved yet relaxed at the same time... I love it!
Kind of sounds like a mother humming some sort of lullaby to her children, that might be it.
@@rafaelcastor2089 Except the mother doesn't actually love her children and just sees them as a means to an end, so she sings them lullabies and puts on a facade to make them think she loves them, but none of her actions have any real warmth.
Like there is someone behind you but you don't care you just want to relax
@@mirrorzone5224 you alright mate? 😳
Mirror Zone You said it perfectly! And now I have chills!
“Dante, there is no such thing... as eternal life.”
clearly a lie
No one’s body can truly last forever. The things that they do and the memories that people hold of their work, however, is what makes them truly immortal in the world. Whether good or bad, they stick with us, and no one ever forgets them. In that regard, eternal life does exist.
Father : Not with that attitude, Slave 23!
"Tell me, why did you leave? Wasn't eternal life enough for you?"
"Dante, there's no such thing as eternal life."
this is by far the most underrated piece in all of FMA
the mystery and chills this gives off puts golden time lover to shame
Kesenai tsumi is
Yess So Underranted Ost
I remember as a kid feeling like it marked a change in tone, a coming to the end (since I remember having to wait for the latter half of the series for so long)
That's because Golden Time Lover is an opening song, this isn't.
They are not comparable
Such a sinister little theme! Brotherhood was closer to the manga, but I love the original anime because of it's darker tone. Such a great series!
Nice pfp
It feels like she's whispering "Hohen-heeeeeim" at the start of the chant each time
I’m glade I’m not the only one who’s thought that
" hohenhiem?" "Who am I?"@@crzylkfx
Why I am just realizing this now
I wanted to find this theme for years
Ren Hojo i like it 2, also i love the fma brotherhood thats called awakening.
Ren Hojo me too
Oh you really my company
Es perfecto
same! i was searching it wrong...I always thought this was Hoenheim's theme...
Spooky as hell especially when you realize that your life's fate is being controlled by a human 400+ years old and still alive
Full metal was recommended to me by a friend and I will never forget it him or this absolute masterpiece of an anime.
it is very good! :)
Really deep and meaningful lyrics in this one
It has no lyrics lol
@@xDecypha "woah"
@@007kingifrit I think it also said “hohenheim”
@@xDecypha wawoo wawoo wawoho
In Shonens Dante is a very unique character, primarily her simplicity (Unlike super-charismatic cyber-samurai with sharingans instead of eyes). Many will consider this a shortcoming of the script, but in fact it is a universal archetype - "Evil Devouring Mother" - a negative aspect of the maternal figure. For clarity, the most notable example of the embodiment of this image was in "Snow White". This is the Queen, Stepmother of Snow White. Dante in general can be called the stepmother of Ed and undoubtedly she is the Queen of her own kingdom (although the second is not so important). Just remember how she desperately fights for life and eternal beauty, and what she wants to do with Rosa (snow white). Of course, I'm far away from the archetype in general and went to the character of the queen, it's just an interesting parallels. But the root in both cases is the same.
When we think of Archetypes, we mostly talk about the unconscious. What is the essence of what we experience in relation to the mother? The personal experience of each individual is of course unique, but the archetype is the archetype that includes the most General idea. In the last analysis it is the magical authority of all that is feminine; wisdom and spiritual height beyond reason; something benign, something giving shelter, something fraught, bearing something, the giver of growth, fertility and sustenance; the place of magical re-realization and rebirth; a contributing and helping instinct or impulse. This is the positive aspect of the Archetype of mother that Trisha embodies.
Dante represents the aspect of the "Evil Devouring Mother" concealing something hidden, something dark-somnolent, the abyss, the world of the dead, something swallowing, seducing and poisoning, something exciting fear and inevitable. In the culture of this way embody the witch, dragon, any swallowing or wrapped around the animal victim, whether a big fish or a snake (Ouroboros).
In the context of the analysis of the image of Dante, I think it is important to note the role of the symbol of Ouroboros. I will not dwell on it, but it is a very important detail. Ouroboros is a symbol of the eternal cycle of rebirth. This very clearly illustrates, what represents from themselves Dante, which so many times changed bodies. Ouroboros also applies to homunculi. After all, a homunculus is the rebirth of another person. Hence the mark of Ouroboros.
Also Ouroboros has the meaning of the end of the world. He comes to the edge, biting its own tail. Literally devouring itself. What happened to Dante? It has reached the limit of its possibilities, its end is coming. What happened? The cause of her death was "gluttony" (this can be taken as a metaphor), which got out of her control. She literally devoured herself. Exactly like the Ouroboros. I really like the work of writers.
Summing up my thoughts, we can say that the final confrontation between Dante and Edward is a confrontation between Archaic and Modernism. Nature against Humanity. Archaic thinking presupposes the inseparability of man from nature. in Jung's typology, Dante is the "Evil Devouring mother", the Archetype of the mother is the personification of nature, matter, capable of both giving life and taking away. There is nothing spiritual about Dante. The more noticeable the physiology of her image. In scene the first meeting Dante with Hohenheim can be discern as she revels in own youth and offers "try new body", in the other scene she predatory looks on Rosa (more precisely on its body). She's also upset that she missed the opportunity to "enjoy the love (sex)" of Edward. This is a real animal, praising the frailty and meaninglessness of its existence. All the more vividly felt her absolutely animal fear of death. She is the personification of an ancient irrational fear and as a consequence of the evil generated by this fear. In a monologue with Edward, she literally says "Its cruel and random world and yet the chaos is all so beautiful". In her opinion, the cruelty of the world in the order of things-if we live in the jungle you need to be animals and live by the law of the jungle. This is Archaic thinking.
In this regard, it is especially ironic that her name is Dante. One of the main interpretations of Dante Alighieri's divine Comedy is the victory over death, over flesh, over earthly existence.
It's the exact opposite of Dante from FMA. She is afraid of death, strives to satisfy carnal desires, and she does not care about her own soul, because with every "jump" her soul is split. It's really funny. This contrast makes her character even more insignificant and alienating... But that in my opinion is the greatness of this character.
Very fascinating thoughts
@@TheSimmus Oh thanks)
Ok
How you went from Evil devouring mother to archaic animalistic thinking is beyond me.
@@EvilSapphireR I also refer to the identification of the mother figure with the material world and nature. Archaic thinking is built on a holistic psychology, unity with the environment and subordination to its laws, and therefore subordination to the principles of extolling immanent attributes, carnality, irrationality and determinism. These are all aspects of the archaic world that Dante expresses
Say what you want about Dante . She was the best antagonist this franchise ever had.
Just as direct and cruel as reality itself. I loved how she crushed Ed's point of view of the "law"
"Just as direct and cruel as reality itself."
@@blakesmith2672 ??????
@@dejadejod3rYT i just thought that was a cool thing to say.
Yeah, she destroyed Ed in the span of a single conversation
Nothing is eternal even if it looks like it , but paradoxically her theme will be, i feel it and she don't even knows it lol.
Why should I love any human being?
They are all ignorant, egoistical things beyond redemption.
Once they learned how to use gun powder, they thought only about waging war.
If they ever understood the secrets of alchemy, what a horrible tragedy that would be.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you spelled egotistical wrong nice blurb though, you doodle often?
@@seanbernard144 egoistical is the standard usage if the OP meant that humans are self-serving.
What episode that quote from?
Devoriea Sin episode 45
i know way different anime but i cant resist.
Escanor: im human and who stands a top of all races
also
Escanor: Who decided that im the one who decides such things in my world.
Dante is one of my favorite antagonists in fiction
same
Coming from a Revanite, that's a great compliment.
@@LofusRose Indeed, but Revan is no antagonist. So Dante can still be a great one compared to "him" if that's what you were going for.
Honestly KOTOR an FMA are my favorite stories... like ever.
She was amazing, simple but really well written. The way she just crushed Ed's "law" was the sh*t!! Long time before Pain humilliated naruto verbally
Embodies how a villain should be, well executed.
Not a villain who has potential to be complex yet not well executed in it's delivery
fullmetal alchemist is easily for me in the top 5 best anime of all time. No need of 1000 episodes to emphasize their greatness but the content and the philosophy will never be equaled. I can re-watch this series 1000 times and I wont get tired
Same I watched both series equally 27 times that may seem insane but that’s how much I loved both series
@@venomouscontent9393 no that Is insane lol
Watched this anime in 2013 and i cant even describe the nostalgia this song is making me feel.
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Thank you Hiromi Arakawa and bones studio for this masterpiece.
This fellow is grateful. Love from India 🇮🇳
I could listen to this a million times in a row and it would still give me chills.
Same here
Its beautiful
@@ultron1191 Are you the real awesome Ultron or the shitty James Spader Ultron?
@@Superdarkcloud666 are you the real awesome Temna Senka? Or the fake Temna Senka?
@@ultron1191 Only one me. I have too much integrity to be portrayed by an unfitting actor in a poorly-written movie that wastes 2 hours and 22 minutes of everyone's time and kills one of The Avengers before they even officially become a member of the team. And judging from your response, I take it you're supposed to be the shitty James Spader Ultron who gets easily wasted by Vision like a chump.
Broho is great, but it lacks the bittersweet nihilistic tone of 2003. I'd say they both accomplish what their stories set out to do in equal measure, but their stories are so different that they shouldn't be compared. . .
Hello there Monika.
One of the only comments with common sense
Totally true, both shared a similar story but they truly were able to have a different direction while also keeping the personality of the characters and it makes them both (at least for me) incredible interesting to watch each one, kinda helps to make all characters stronger while facing different situations, motivations and feelings.
Where in FMA 2003 is there Nihilism?
Temna Senka everywhere
the lyrcs: Hohenheim oohwoooooow oooooowowooooooo Why? HOW YOU WOW
lmao I laughed to fart
It stinks
These lyrics are now apart of my headcanon xD
Everyone calls Dante crazy. Evil. Cowardly for her miserable life. And it really is. And also everyone believes that Hohenheim left her for this very reason.
But... Let's not confuse cause and effect.
What was Dante originally like? We can learn this from her own words in the following dialogue:
"Al: - Dante, why did you decide to become an alchemist?
Dante: - Well, the reason was quite ordinary. I just wanted to help people. People need alchemy. Although this does not mean that you can not do without it. And yet, alchemy helps to make people happy. It would be nice if the efforts of those who strive for happiness were always rewarded. That's how I thought."
Why do I think she was telling the truth? Because her current views are literally saturated with nihilism, rejection of people. Only a person who was once sincerely (and naively) convinced of the opposite can come to such a pronounced nihilism.
But apparently, at some point she met Hohenheim and fell in love with him... And instead of helping people, she blindly helped him in all his apparently scientific affairs. In the creation of the Philosopher's stone in particular.
They have ruined many lives for their own purposes.
I believe that the main initiator of the search for the philosopher's stone was Hohenheim. But Dante looks in this case like the one who just blindly follows her beloved.
And so, her lover almost died. She can't let him die. She saves him, at the cost of someone else's life. Let's be honest, quite a few of us would have done the same.
And what's next? They live together like lovers. Dante gives birth to a child from Hohenheim. They raised him for 18 years until he died... Then they decide to revive his son, but only a homunculus, the future Envy, is born. And what does Hohenheim do? He's just... Left Dante. He left his son. Yes, it was a homunculus, but so what? He was aware of himself as the son of Hohenheim. Envy felt like the same person, had all his memories.
Envy felt almost the same as Edward, being also abandoned by the same father.
Dante... Can you imagine how she felt? Left alone in such a situation, being no longer with the most stable mind, it is natural that she went completely mad. And all why? Because Hohenheim is a coward. He did not take responsibility for the Envy. He did not take responsibility for the one who sincerely loves him. He left Dante literally in Hell. Alone. She was left by the man she loved, whose life she once saved at the cost of another person's life. I don't think many people can boast that they could have kept their sanity in such a situation.
And what do we see after 400 years?
Both continue to jump from one body to the other. Dante has finally become disillusioned with humanity, and out of her despair continues to prolong her meaningless life. And Hohenheim does the same. Moreover, unlike his magnificent version from the Brotherhood, the Hohenheim of Light did not dare to tell Trisha the whole truth about himself. And again he abandoned his sons. It's funny to realize that Edward and Envy have a lot in common in this regard. They are even more brothers than one could imagine.
And the most disgusting thing is that Hohenheim has not learned lessons from the past. What does he do when he meets Lieutenant Maria Ross? He's fucking flirting with her! Moreover, seeing that she takes it seriously. He just keeps playing with people's feelings. Knowing that he had once driven Dante to madness with such irresponsibility. And at the same time, later hypocritically declaring to Dante that he is married when she hints to him about "testing her new young body."
And then their dialogue, which finally makes it clear what a pathetic person Hohenheim is.
"Hohenheim: - Trisha was the FIRST and ONLY woman I ever loved"
Dante: - Really? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you whisper tender words of love to me four centuries ago
Hohenheim: "Let's not talk about it..."
Very nasty of him.
If Van Hohenheim is a hero, then the Hohenheim of Light is an irresponsible coward who simply abandoned everyone when anyone needed him. Someone who has not learned any lessons from his mistakes, and continues to take people's lives.
And Dante... Yes, she has turned into a monster who has lost all the positive part of her humanity. And even in this situation, it is clear that she still retains feelings for Hohenheim and her pain. Almost perfectly hiding it behind his monster disguise.
If you look at it this way, then Dante is a woman with a very sad fate.
Therefore, it is fundamentally wrong to say that Hohenheim left her because she is insane. Cause and effect should not be confused.
Sounds like someone has a personal investment in Dante's innocence
I think the point is that yes, things were different once but one of them realized what they are doing is wrong.
Don't get me wrong, If my lover died I would do It in a heartbeat and she would do the same 😶 but there is something to be said that one started to view people as an ends to a means and the other decided... He didn't want to keep hurting people.
Dante makes a fantastic villain BECAUSE she's so human.
Father was a JRPG super boss...
Dante was a person who didn't want to die and was willing to watch the world burn.
Also FMA 2003 + movie is a better story than brotherhood in my eyes
@@iantaran2843 Agree :)
"one of them realized what they are doing is wrong"
Yes, because despite all the mistakes and negative traits of Hohenheim, he was a morally stronger and more mature person when compared with Dante.
Dante was dependent on him, to some extent fanatical. And a person like her is almost incapable of developing positive qualities in the condition of being near the object of her fanaticism. Especially if he himself is a very ambiguous person and does not seek to be responsible for those to whom he is dear. Not capable of growing up. She just doesn't see anything around.
And being in an ordinary society, such a person, even being broken, is unlikely to bring so much trouble to others. But if you give a broken person such power, it will turn a broken, "immature" person into a monster.
And what's great about Dante as an antagonist is that it's easy to believe that such a person can exist in reality. Initially, a not bad, but weak person who succumbed to everything bad.
And you also made a great comparison with your Father :D
@@iantaran2843 i also prefer the story of 03, despite the fact i watched brotherhood first and initially disliked 03 when i watched that (i was one of the fools that thought "this isnt faithful to manga so its bad" and stopped about halfway through, only giving it a second chance years late).
And Dante being such a good villain is part of why. You are completely accurate in how you describe Father. Yes he had motives and reason, but it was just "i want knowledge" and he was basically just evil to the core and he got so ridiculously OP at the end and then was basically beaten through the power of friendship. Dante was a much more realistic villain and then it was so fitting that she died by being consumed by her sin (Gluttony). You can see how Dante grew to be the way she is, whereas with Father its clear he was always that way.
This makes more sense when you consider the cost of human transmutation.
Hohenheim and Dante definitely lost parts of their minds/souls/sanities when they created envy, greed, and pride because they could jump into another body and evade a physical cost like the one ed and al had to pay. Hohenheim lost his ability to commit, leaving behind envy for all who loved him, dante gave into her greedy desire for a new husband (greed was her old lover), and became consumed by greedy fear of losing her immortality. She gave into her desire for control and became consumed by pride (Creating king bradley and priding herself on creating a homunculus that can age). Dante was correct in telling Ed that she was no longer human, but she had no idea how far from humanity she really was.
From what happened I'm guessing that Hohenheim was just as crazy and immoral as the Dante we see, maybe even more. It's entirely possible that a large reason for why Dante is the person she is today is because she's just following the same example that Hohenheim gave her, but he eventually saw that they won't be immortal no matter how many times they jump bodies so he left her. When she talks about how she was an innocent, it tells us that she was a virgin, but it might say even more, maybe she was a young naive girl, desperate to learn from Van Hohenheim, who may have been a rich accomplished scientist. And his interaction with Maria Ross means that he is kind of a womanizer.
I think that he was a groomer who took advantage of her by hiring her as some sort of lab assistant. And I think that she wasn't the first. There could have been a long line of assistants who he seduced and then abandoned when he got bored. She was just the only one who was there when he finally created the philosopher's stone, so he didn't dump her, especially after she saved his life.
Another negative aspect of Hohenheim is that he's not even there to stop Dante, he just wants her to leave Ed and Al out of it, if she had found another philosopher's stone without them, he would have continued to stay away from her. Even though the philosopher's stone needs human sacrifices, most likely innocent.
Of course Dante is still to blame, she's been away from Hohenheim for centuries and has had time to reflect on her own actions. She has just as much evidence as him that they won't have immortality no matter how many stones they make or how many bodies they jump to. Her most recent body is rotting and she hasn't even been in it for a year.
This always creeped me out. It's so dark and ominous, making you think Dante is an evil demon or something. Well, she was certainly a villain, but still a person
She's just a person, a woman whose son died, and the man she loved, whose life she saved, just left her.
It can break almost anyone, which would be a tragedy.
But if it breaks a person with the power of "god", it will be a disaster.
I listen to this and pictured light. Just shows how people's perceptions aren't the same, to me this theme sounds light and beautiful, to you its dark and grim.
gotta say a fun fact about dante and hohenheim:
dante's vessels rot faster due to her rotting soul. And if u dont want that idea to read, then she also is like that due to trying to revert her current vessel into the shape and look of her original body. this obviously fails each time, but does she really care?
hohenheim however in 03 and Brotherhood/Manga: his rotting is assumed slower due to hohenheim actually not having his soul and body rot over alchemic cosmetics, switching to different vessels, and actually understanding mortality better.
"why don't you help me have some fun with this body"
Sorry, but I have a wife.
SARY but i have a wife
@@henriquegtr.taurinodaroza3869 "Well NOW I have her." * Sloth appears*
Sloth: Well, thank you. You're just too kind to me, Hohenheim of Light.
@@henriquegtr.taurinodaroza3869 Close enough.
This should be the theme song to 2020 imo.
indeed xd
This song is too beautiful for 2020 lol but, I get what you mean .
plus a Florida man saying fuck you in the background...
Lmaooooooo this is the funniest comment I’ve read in a while .
Dante is very good if you don't try to extrapolate her role to the entire story. She has never been the biggest threat in the plot. The main "antagonist" of the series was the idea of the Philosopher's Stone itself, as Ed concludes at the end of his last conversation with Mustang. She is more of a final puzzle piece of the more general threat of people's concern for the search for the Holy Grail (the Philosopher's Stone). After all, the threat of the idea that there is something in the world that can change the course of history and its salvation, which was independently pursued, for example, by Basque Grand and Scar, is the root of the story. Dante only occupied a niche and a role whose meaning was to preserve the status quo, but she was not the reason for all the atrocities, unlike the dwarf in the flask. The point was that the story needed a scapegoat, an antagonist who could express this general idea of the evils of the world. Because this evil would exist without her, everyone would continue to search for the stone and there would be war, and someone would surely take her place is something more conceptual, while without the actions of the dwarf in the flask, the entire plot of the original manga would not exist. By defeating the dwarf in the flask, the world would be at peace as we see in the end of Brotherhood.
The new Björk's album sounds amazing.
I love Vulnicura
I remember when ever a plot twist happens that includes dante this played in the background
so every scene with Dante?
Izumi: Did you even love anyone but yourself?!
Dante: "Why should I love any human being? Theyre just ignoring egotistical things beyond any redemption. After discovering gun powder, they would only wage it for war. What tradegy would it be if they discovered the secrets of alchemy?"
You know some shit was going down when we heard this music 😮
lyrics:
whoo ho ho hoooo whoooooooo
ohohohohoooo
ohohohohhoooo
whooooooooo
Thats scary tbh
XD
chorus: Hohenheeeeim whooohoooo
@@emirmemovic2046 I thought I was the only person hearing that 🤯
Omg thank you so much LMAO
I love how her theme progresses throughout the anime, mirroring that she’s getting closer and closer to accomplishing her goals of getting a philosopher stone and then it explodes into a full blown orchestra when she’s sure she’s won (not to mention the music is canon as she’s heard listening to her theme dozens of times).
Fullmetal alchemist (2003) was the first anime I ever watched. When I finished it, I honestly thought that it was dropped, never completed. You know, it's a story about two brothers who mess up big time and then try to make things right again, to get their bodies back, so I expected that to happen - "maybe, they'll eventually use the philosopher stone, or Hohenheim will show up and hocus pocus Alphonse back. Or the'll give it up and just learn to live hapilly, even if crippled....", I thought. But Dante showed up and was all like "Screw you, you, you, me, everyone, nobody gets even remotely happy ending", and I was all like "huh, this sucks, well I hope they'll figure something out next episode...wait, where's the next episode? This can't be end yet, everything is incomplete, nobody acomplished anything..." But THAT was the ending, there was no next episode, no another chance, and there never will be...
@Jimmy Whisper I know, I watched that too later on, this was just my first impression from the series
Pokemon Red/Blue - Lavender Town, Jet Set Radio - Grace and Glory, and Fullmetal Alchemist Dante's Theme are definitely the spookiest songs I've ever heard.
This one sounds like slow motion shadow demons coming out of the ground and absorbing away everyone.
This should have been in brotherhood.
this is too good for brotherhood
Wouldn't have fit.
Bratja fits perfectly for FullMetal franchise in general
It's not the only music that should have been in Brotherhood.
But I don't know where they could have put her. (I don't really think it fits to Father)
brotherhood was shit
This is the song that has stuck with me for years on years since watching fma originally and I never went back to find it and I always thought of hohenheim when I heard this, God I need to rewatch the show
The original series will always and forever be better than Brotherhood. Much rather have a personal, complex, dramatic, and characteristic storytelling versus that same old grandiose and action shonen slugfest that we’ve seen millions of times already, especially when plot armors, unexplained random power ups which in turn create plot holes, cheesy & corny trivia messages, and a Disney-ish ending where all ends well.
I love this haunting tune…. Gives me such intimate dreamscapes to explore.
I will die on the hill that Dante was a better antagonist than Father.
Father was like a comic book villain where the author kept cranking up the threat scale for dramatic effect, Dante was less grand, but she was far more grounded, and in return, felt more like a threat. And i feel like she had a more interesting backstory with Hoenheim.
This is how I feel realizing my generation is getting older..and masterpieces like FMA will be lost in time..and so will we..
It's the way of all things.
This song from FMA makes me cry, gives you the feels reminds you of there fucked up equivalence exchange
The music in this series is just astonishing
There is something very nostalgic about this music
If there was a live action TV series, I would mix Dante and father's character together, dante being a humunculus dwarf in the flask before van hohenheim and the destruction of xerxes, which gives her a female body whom van hohenheim initially fell in love with and entered into a whirl-wind romance with her that would give birth to a child. This child and them lived happily till the child died of mercury poisoning and van hohenheim would try to use human transmutation to bring the child back. Creating a deformed and bloody humanoid with a piece of the childs soul still inside him. envy is the first human based humunculus, unable to face up to what he had done to his son, van hohenheim would abandon both dante and envy. Envy would be a malformed humanoid form for a few years, unable to speak, but constantly bleeding and crying as Dante rearranged his body with all the skill of a mad chiropractor, feeding him small fragments of her Philosopher's Stone every few days to relieve the pain just enough for him to sleep until she discovered how to make mass quantities through the slaughter of many, which allowed him to take on a proper human shape and finally take away the physical pain, the abandonment of hohenheim and envy's creation would cause dante to decide to absorb god and become immortal and creates amestris exactly for that purpose. Envy's hatred for his father and need to kill him would be intact and it will be his main goal. Whereas the rest just want to serve Dante in her quest to absorb God, envy wants to kill van hohenheim. His hatred for doctor Marco being rooted in the fact that all alchemist remind him of his father. His killing of the ishvallan girl being rooted in intense jealousy of seeing her with her parents. His hatred for Edward being rooted in the fact that the elric brothers received the fatherly love that he never did.
I mixed the strong elements of 2003 and brotherhood...the uniqueness, plot function, philosophy, and endgame of the original father...and the personal history and relationship with van hohenheim that dante and envy have.
Creating a singular strong character.
It would be EPIC! I'd love this "new" story.
I heard that there was already a live-action film. As far as I heard, though, it kinda sucked. That's why I don't trust live-action adaptations...
To add on to that, I'd keep Gluttony the same as his Brotherhood/manga self where he's a failed attempt at creating an artificial Door to the Truth. Bradley would be Pride like in 2003, but would mostly take after his manga/Brotherhood self. Lust and Sloth would be the same as their 2003 selves. As for Greed, I love his character arc in Brotherhood, but in 2003 he played a vital role in pushing Edward's character in a darker direction. I'm not sure which version I'd want to use or how I'd combine them.
Wrath would be the failed transmutation of Izumi's son like in 2003, but with the powers of manga/Brotherhood's Pride. After Izumi abandons the deformed abomination that her son became when she tried to resurrect him with alchemy, the homunculus child is discovered by Dante, who is Izumi's mentor just like in 2003, who then fixes his physical form like she did for her own son. Dante then has Pride raise Wrath as his son naming him Selim Bradley.
AND also the story of the Homunculus in FMA, their story in 2003 is a lot better than in Broho, but Broho added AMAZING characters like Mira, Ling, Lan Fan, Fu, May, and the Chimeras just to name a few.
@@stevenirizarry1304 So instead of getting with the girl he's known his whole life and who is always there to fix him up when he's beat down, Ed instead enters an incestuous relationship with his murderous half brother and has a kid with him AND this is while Ed is in his early teens while Envy is hundreds of years old? You just need a few things before your idea is ready to be published.
1. a therapist
2. Jesus
3. Chris Hansen
This brings back so many memories dunno why it feels soooo nostalgic and just takes me back!
one of the best sound tracks ever
This was so spooky.. Dante's theme... FMA 2003 was so fricken dope, I don't know how people prefer Brotherhood over this one.
MzShaybutta I like some aspects of brotherhood over the first version, but if I had to choose, I’m not sure which I would go for. They’re both quite good. But I don’t like the fact that Edward marries Winry. I never cared for that character.
@@fortunamajor580 FMA 2003 is more nihilistic and doesn't wrap everything up in a nice neat package, but the actually STORY was way more dope. I liked that the homunculi had more selfish purposes to why they were how they were. In Brotherhood they were just father's lackeys, which didn't make sense to me when he was a homunculi just like them. Only Greed in Brotherhood had any sort of a agenda. Plus I like the sloth better in FMA 2003.
@@MzShaybutta Also,the Homunculi being the sins of the protagonists and humanity as opposed to a third party who was also a manmade monster like themselves makes them more psychologically poignant and effective as antagonists and emotional foils as well as better emphasizing their parallels to Frankenstein`s Monster.
MzShaybutta Lust was a million times better in FMA. Hers and Scars relationship made me cry.
A.S.H Same! 😭
I wonder if the world will ever really appreciate the innocent beauty, in something so simple as melodies such as these. There are so many, from Motzart to Bach! I love that FMA can be an evaluation of the persecution during WWII. It is beautiful to remember the horrors, and feel a sense of humanity. But I have some doubt! The minorities trully have suffered!
FMA is not so much the persecution during WWII in fact the time periods in the shows do not add up, it is more similar to WW1 and the collapse of the idealized image set up by ones society though it does have elements of both it is likely closer to WW1 and the Interwar period than anything
Dante > Father
Change my mind!!!
RIGHT?! People look at me like im insane when i say this
I mean… You’re not wrong-
I can’t watch 2003 again because I’m emotionally unstable, but this theme SLAPS.
@@m3lody_fae I love Brotherhood, but 03 just had that… feeling to it. And I agree with the rushing thing, I was disappointed that there was so little time for the characters to just be there as themselves
This and FMA brotherhood are my favorite anime’s for a reason
蠻黑暗的配樂,我喜歡
Perfectly describes that naive inhuman monster...
Does anyone else think this would be a really good opening theme for like a really dark vampire type anime?
Hohenheim really did have the epitome of baby mama drama.
This theme has the same vibe as All For One's theme. It's majestic
It’s the part where she says “Hoohhwhooahooohhh whooahoohhh” for me 😭
I'm on my first run of the anime and tried hard to stay off the hype train (yes even after all these years) but this track solidified me being a fan. It's so damn good.
It reminds me about “for the damaged cola”
Paul Hui yesss
"damaged cola" lol
Damaged cola
This song gets the hair on the back on my neck to stand on their ends.
man ...so much effective.....this tunes vibes with me somehow.
Haven't seen brotherhood yet but honestly I really enjoyed this version of the show... Can't wait to see what's in store, a
So this theme slaps
Best song in either iteration.
While I love them both, I’ve always found Dante more terrifying than Father.
One word for this song; sinister
Dante showed me how bad it was to fall in love with a ambitious woman 💀
Thank you so much for this I've been looking for this song for over 12 years
I feel Dante to be a far more darker character then the dwarf in flask. Its because Dante is relateable. The urge to increase ones life and now it ultimately leads to deterioration of ones soul and humanity. I FRIGGIN LOVE the phylosophy behind FMA. However FMAB isnt about phylosophy at all. Its only about fast pased action.
So if ur an intellectual person and watch animes for their fascinating psyhology and stpry then FMA is for u. If ur just into action and dont like phylosophy then watch FMAB. Both cator to different kind lf anime viewers.
If ypu really think that fmab its not phylosophic you are:
Stupid or just a fma 2003 close mind fanboy
That a story its darker doesnt mean that its better or more phylosophic its just means darker
And honestly if you think that a think created by humans and in a frask that kills a hole country only manupulating humans as he wanted you are just stupid or you are so blind by your fanboying over fma 2003 to not see it
But i agree in that the story its darker but not better than fmab
Even the deaths by the homunculus are better and more phylosophical
Example: gluttony die eaten
I don't consider myself an intellectual being or having amazing taste on it.
But sure i can tell the first FMA was way deeper. Cruel and i consider Dante a better antagonist than father.
Fmab was Great as a shonen. But the direction, storytelling and characterization of some of the characters were handled better on FMA than FMAb. This last one was more about action and characters achieving their dreams.
I choose this one because it was more realistic. And edward came to terms with his father and actions...
@@sergioruiz8247 it's not necessary to be offended by his opinion, the way you're acting makes you a sad fanboy. Who can't come to terms with diversity of ideas
Please , stop embarrassing yourself. It's pathetic reading you..
And he's right. FmaB it's just a full packed shonen with the bright side of the story compared to the first FMA. It lacks deep , cruelty and a lot of elements the first series had
Just compared mina or hughes death with the Brotherhood one and you'll see how superior the direction of the first one was.
I'll give brotherhood how they explored their worldbuilding better and the action was amazing
But from a philosophical point of view. First FMA was a way deeper. Darker and the storytelling was better . No debate needed about it.
@@dejadejod3rYT offended by ignorance not his opinion
And you are the sad fanboy as we can appreciate with your comments
And... Too much text
I always thing that the song is the tragedy of a seductive woman. She always show like is in control, and is the most evil, free egoistic being alive . But the true is that she do everything in the name of hohenheim.
BIG BROTHER
This song is honestly so haunting... say what you will, FMA was one of the best shows out there.
I was searching this song a lot of time.
Same here bud
If 2020 had a them song
A trilha sonora me deixa desconfortável, mas não agitado. É incrível como ela muda completamente o clima de qualquer cena.
it sounds like something out of silent hill...its such a good track i love it.
This song played in the episode where Edward Elric confronted Dante, I think episode 50. In the FMA 2003 version.
not in episode 49,it was then,she explained,and then he found himself on the other side of the gate
@@eternitysnow2235 Yeah you are right.
Sounds like she saying Hohenheim's name.
When Edward found the hidden city underground (ep 52 i think), he went to a theater hall where Rose and Dante were waiting for him, and Rose was dancing on a orchestral music.. anyone knows the title of it
Laws and Promises
ruclips.net/video/5_tRZqAJKaQ/видео.html (# 41) Dante II
This ost gives me a feeling of a 'banjara' ❤️
"Holy ground is no place for a mortal to trample upon"
Still hits like brick!
This theme and Father's themes (Ante Meridiem and The Awakening) from Brotherhood will make an awesome medley as Bratja and Trisha's lullaby did.
Perfect music for dante 🎶
I wish I could find this on Spotify. There's a piano cover there but I really like the singing
Listening to it just makes me wanna watch the whole thing again (around 16th time)...pure genius made it.
Top anime songs: Not in order.
-Dante Theme
-Cha la head cha la
-Sono Chi no Sadame
-Gurenge
-Unravel
-Uunan and the Stone Storage Room
-Naruto Main Theme
-The Walk
If you know what "The Walk" is, then you know. If you don't, then I'll tell you. It's "Overtaken".
Nothing from AOT or HxH?
It reminds me of that dark past, which I never had...
It sends chills down your spine when you here is. FMA is a dark anime and has creeper and darker music to show the darker story.
Dante theme is pretty sad and beautiful 😭❤💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⬅To Be Continued
Nice touch from 04:09 to 04:21, the woman's voice sounds older, conveying exactly that no matter how much you try, you're still going to age. Nothing more suitable for Dante, for that matter.
Magnífico, Fullmetal ❤️
Listening to this makes me want to throw up in nervousness. It just exudes that unnerving atmosphere and I end up nauseous
(if it's not already obvious, I meant everything I said in a good way)
Good music brought me hear....December 2019
When your about to fall asleep and this starts playing
Me: where the fuck am I
this goes hard
"Right, well this nice old lady is a baddy then."
Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood made me forget about Original Full Metal Alchemist.
All I remember is Trishas Lullaby Soundtrack.
I recommend sticking to FMA:B if you plan to present this Masterpiece of a Series to a younger generation.