My Thoughts on Season 1 of Fallout...
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- The day has finally come! In this video I share my first season review of the Fallout TV Show.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:29 - It Feels Like Fallout
02:35 - Lore Expansion
03:55 - The Writing
07:55 - Characters
11:12 - The Most Disappointing Part
12:51 - Overall Thoughts
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The golden rule of the wasteland: Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every god damned time.
That's an open world rule of thumb, really
Side quests the quote 😂
Side quest ADHD
So true
That line got an audible laugh from me.
Not gonna lie I didnt think I'd end up loving the side plot following Norm and Chet back in Vault 33 as much as I did.
Vault lore is what brought me into the series plus it connected to the prewar segments of the show..
Honestly I agree
I AM BERT (?)
That's because the Norm + Chet in Vault 33 was not a side plot. It was the main plot which explained the whole core setting and the mystery which Lucy and the Ghoul were trying to figure out.
@@krakulandiathat’s what’s great about it. It feels like a side plot until it hints towards the main plot followed by a confirmation of that which is beautifully weaved into the connected plot about cooper spying on vault tec in the flashbacks and Lucy hearing the truth from moediver
The TV show didn’t even crash to desktop once.
Almost no bugs in this complete release!
@@borg111 just a few radroaches :)
This is a underrated hilarious comment
I like that our three characters are representations of the karma system.
Lucy: Good Karma. Gets her hands dirty when she needs to but never does anything outright diabolical or mean-spirited.
Maximus: Neutral. Ultimately a good person, but wily and willing to do a few heinous things to achieve his goals.
The Ghoul: Evil. Is openly hostile and often engages in vile activities for the sake of intimidation and enjoyment.
I like Lucy's character. She's not some overpowered perfect mary sue, she struggles, and makes mistakes like a person. A refreshing take on a female hero in 2024. Super hyped for Season 2.
It’s nice to finally get a female character post 2020 with an actual character arc! lol 😂
Also when she does wrong, or has something happen she picks herself up and goes on surprisingly well. Also in the previous episode I saw she felt guilt and not just viewing herself as hero no matter what like some mary sues tend to do.
Okey dokey
Her major weakness is her speech checks. Epic to get a good female lead who isn't a perfect Mary Sue
Despite claiming to have terrible aim in her first scene, any time Lucy fires a weapon she bull's-eyes the target. This would be an excellent opportunity to reference VATS but no mention is made and we're left with no reason why she's a perfect shot.
Thou shall always be sidetracked, made me feel seen
i felt called out.
@@Verschal 🤣🤣🤣me too 'bro!!
The ghoul made a joke about getting distracted by side quest... they knew what they were doing
Thaddeus's plot line was one of my more favorite, I just think he is a silly dude.
I hope he returns more ghoulified in s2
@@jackmeowmeowmeow2177 yeah me too
I think he will be in S2, but as a ghoul.
I feel like I’m missing something with his character. Why is he supposed to be a ghoul now? What does that have to do with healing factor like powers? I don’t remember anything like that except glowing ones being able to heal other ghouls with radiation.
@@unclesam326 I think it's because that serum gives him the ability to selfheal and immunity from radiation. He can't die, thus eventually becomes a ghoul.
"The characters just deal with what's in front of them".
"Aimless wandering around the wasteland"
Sounds pretty Fallout to me.
Lucy and Maximus have great character arcs in front of them. I can see this series going on for quite a few years.
i'm just scared to get into a netflix show... they tricked me wt the witcher so i just dont know....
Edit: i kno its amazon. my point still stands. ima give it a little
@@HairryTurttleneck yea man they did a nasty Bait and Switch with the witcher
@@HairryTurttleneck Amazon is just like Netflix, they have some good shows and some bad shows. And they have good shows that get cancelled for seemingly no reason.
Fallout is amazing though, definitely recommend.
Sounds very Bethesda to me
the line about "the wasteland has a golden rule" had me grinning, it's clear the production team was full of real Fallout fans.
Something I noticed, was a resemblance to Fallout 4 companions. Like when they were traveling together in the show, they would have that random moment, where they want to talk to you and tell you all their feelings. I found that quite funny.
And if Lucy is the main character being a vault dweller entering the world, She would be the one to switch companions! Didn’t think of it that way till I read this!
His story was hilariously tragic. I didn't like that the characters immediatly thought he was a ghoul when he survived an arrow through the neck . When did ghouls suddenly get the healing factor of Wolverine? Yes they can regenerate if exposed to radiation but it was odd how they portrayed it in the show.
@@mortagon1451yeah it’s a little weird but we’ve also never seen someone in the process of being ghoulified. only before or after
@@jay.p3g well they’re all kind of main characters. maximus and his squire are a companion dynamic as is the ghoul with his dog.
@@obscure.reference For sure! I agree that the show is meant to show the progression of the three. I'm referring to Lucy and us as the player throughout the majority of the fallout games where we are the vault dwellers interacting with our companions :)
It seemed like a lot of people’s play throughs in the games. Starts the main quest and then gets sidetracked for a while, then gets back on track. I loved it
disagree that the aimlessness was pointless - the poor girl was literally almost forced on a tangent at points and was trekking across HUGE distance.
We also tons of added intrigue with the pre-war stuff and vault storyline - and it all added up to a great thematic point at the end regarding who she was and the journey she had.
The show allowed itself to grow very naturally.
Also this season was basically Westworld Season 1 in all the best ways!!
aimless plot means the show has no structure not that its trying to show her mental space, even that would still have structure
@@marcusclark1339it wasn’t actually aimless. There was a purpose to everything that happened. It’s the wasteland, it sucks. You have a goal but sometimes survival takes priority.
@@marcusclark1339 Nothing happened aimlessly. Lucy's objective was always clear, but things kept getting in the way. Maximus wanted to find a place peaceful and happy; he thought this would be the BOS, but then changed his mind to it being vault 33 with Lucy. Cooper wants to find his family, and finds out towards the end that those answers may lie within Lucy's dad. Everything in between that caused delay was conflict of interest between characters.
I liked the fact they went away from the main quest and had to do some side quests. It felt like we got to see more of the wasteland, and vaults, through multiple perspectives and not just a montage of walking through the wasteland. Pretty sure I even heard a comment about how the Ghoul was tired of being distracted from the main objective every minute. Such a great show and I am excited for season 2.
Might even go back and play some of the games.
Exactly, I feel it portrays the in game feel of the wasteland very accurately.
I have a feeling characters exibit representations of certain perks and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats. Maximus definitely has idiot savant, ain't no fucking way he isn't a representation of a low int, high luck build
My exact thoughts. I see a lot of Maximus hate but personally his buts are some of my favorites
Maximus prob has melee fighting skills. High strength. Can take a beating, so prob high endurance. Lower intelligence (being with the brotherhood acts as a kind of education....barely).
Thaddeus mentioned he can't shoot without a scope, so he probably can't use small arms very well, but can use heavy weapons.
Lucy literally lit up when codsworth was being electrocuted. Is this some potential foreshadowing for an energy weapons turn in season 2 for her? That'd be dope.
@@00Spiral007the brotherhood education is basically Harvard compared to the average wastelander
I really liked Norm Maclean and I like where he ended this season as it leaves a lot of speculation on where he'll begin season 2.
Felt like the first time i saw Deadpool, as a fan i thought that whomever worked on this show, actually cared about (loved?) the source material.
Amazon should have given us the option to make the subtitles Green. For the fans!
IMO I love Maximus story arc. He is someone who has an internal conflict. I think the least interesting character is the Ghoul just because he is the stereotypical OP badass. But really all of them have good story arcs.
Oh soundtrack is amazing!
But that’s just me 🤷
just like in the game as the player you can be either be good, neutral or bad.
each of the character is written with that in mind. Lucy is the option where you pick all the good decision and cooper is all the bad decision while maximus is standing neutral.
I feel like Maximus is going to be more a villain in s2. He continuously fails upwards into a role he isn’t fit for. He failed as Squire, let his knight die on purpose/stared too long before shooting, refused to help him, stole his armor and lied to everyone about being a knight, attacks his fellow squire for discovering his secret, cozying up to the head scribe, discovering that Lucy’s dad nuked his city.
he deserves to be a villain, failing upwards is right, as he says to lucy, he really isn't a good person. You mentioned all the parts that really made me dislike him and not care what happens to him.
I kinda hope he is in some capacity at least a threat. His childishness and propensity to do bad things is a good display of a traumatized child not coming to terms with their issues and letting them manifest. He bounces between silly and nefarious.
I’m surprised he made it to the end of the season, he was really annoying to see onscreen.
@@Esoterica26 and often blurs the lines between the two, acting nefarious under guise of being silly
I didn't really get that vibe. He was put into a position to either let the knight die or die himself. Then did what he could to survive, he doesn't know who to trust. Then when he comes clean he redeems himself.
I see him as more of someone who can change the brotherhood from the inside.
Three things they need to include in Season 2. 1) A Mysterious Stranger who shows up occasionally during gunfights to support Lucy. Nobody says anything about it, nobody notices him, no plot attaches to him, he's just there in a shot or two. 2) A crashed flying saucer. Again, no plot attached, just Lucy passes one in the wasteland somewhere. 3) Dunwich Borers LLC.
As an older gamer and F.O. player from the start, I think they did an amazing job and didn't tread on too much...better than I expected.
Hey bro. I have one question. But iv actually noticed in alot of in these comment sections that. The biggest complaint among Many fallout fans were upset because they claimed that they retconned new vegas or something. And the story isn’t what they thought or something like that. 🤔Ive only seen the first episode?😝🤷and yes. Iv played both fallout 3 and new vegas in the past. Haven’t played those games years! Haven’t played the fourth game though soo🤷🤔
@@ukrainefighter2456that’s just a wrong opinion, immediately disregard anyone who says that. It’s a self report they didn’t watch the show
@@jebalitabb8228 yeah. Probably just some minority of “fallout fans” who like to complain too much. I mean obviously! No matter how good of a movie or show is.
There is ALWAYS gonna be people who nitpick and find fault in something. I mean don’t get me wrong. Most movies and shows in modern times especially made by Hollywood aren’t masterpieces. Most of them are very mid or mediocre or plain bad/dumb. They tend to be more flash/generic than actual good stories. so yeah in some ways its justified calling out bad movies.
But the fallout series doesn’t look like it belongs in a bad movie section. Or tv show. I mean it literally has the highest rated for a video adaptation besides arcane legends. Thats nice. lastly, there was a guy in one of the youtube comment section that said. Its actually more RARE for a videogame adaptation tv series to be good than a solar eclipse. 👏👍
@@ukrainefighter2456there is an unfortunate scene that fails to accurately express what it was trying to say and lead people to believe there where retcons of major lore when there was not
The biggest conflict between the two can be found in the sixth episode of the TV series, which mentions that Shady Sands, the capital of the New California Republic (NCR), was destroyed in the year 2277 - four years before the events of Fallout: New Vegas and the same year that the NCR fought in the First Battle of Hoover Dam.
So by "tread on too much" you mean that it was ok for them to basically delete all the west coast stuff, and make up a new set of stuff for the show no boneyard, no shady sands, no nothing from the original games as far as I can tell....
Did the writers forget about the waterchip? they say it and then nothing, that being said everything but the BOS was great and the ending was amazing
They have a couple months, and a backup Vault, it's probably a slow burn plotline to be expanded later
Or it was just a setup to get Betty elected Overseer
I think its a set up for season 2's vault plot line
@@UNSCPILOT or it was just a "wink wink, nudge nudge" fallout 1 reference that will never come up again.
@@e.corellius4495 given the peril that goes with a destroyed water chip (and Vault Tech's anti spare parts policy) I doubt it's a fruitless reference, but again they also have at least a couple months while the events so far have been maybe a couple weeks or so, if Lucy gets in contact again they'll probably be begging her to find a replacement in the next season, or it might force them to try and expand out of the vaults as staying sealed in may not be viable any longer, given the mess in Vault 32 that might be even greater pressure
I'll be honest, the only moment I noticed the music was the reveal of the NCR flag.
I got goosebumps at that part honestly.
Same
Coolest moment in the whole show - I was surprisingly not disappointed by.
@@haroldparsons9727 same, and rock hard
Would have been cool if they played the New Vegas theme, instead of the Fallout 3 theme.
"Aimless wandering around the wasteland"
Isn't that what you're supposed to do in Fallout???
Oh, and I want a show that's all of the Ghouls exploits from when the bombs dropped till the present storyline. Did he ever meet Harold? Has he been to Junktown? The Boneyard? Klamath? Did he tangle with Caesar's Legion? Did he try to search for his family in the vault under the Cathedral? Or any of the other vaults in and around L.A.? So many stories to be told.
he was just too horrible for me to enjoy watching or following. he was just repugnant for so much of the series
@@asheraelI’m curious what made you not like him?
With how tough they made him. I wouldn't be surprised if he killed plenty deathclaws legionares or ncr troops.
@@jimmy1740 his near recreational torment of lucy, mostly
this! i want to see his flashback again but post war
I’m probably a rare commodity here in that I haven’t played a single Fallout title. So my perspective is slightly different just given my inexperience, outside of RUclips videos, with the source material. I LOVED this season. It felt tightly woven in what it was trying to do. It had a few parts that I was iffy on but overall I think this show was an absolute banger. The characters felt crunchy and real while allowing for Lucy to evolve over time. Cannot wait for season two :)
You can tell a program like this is well done if even people not familiar with the game, it's lore, the settings, etc enjoy it as much as those of us who've played the games for hundreds of hours! I'm glad you are enjoying it as much as I am! 🙂
I would give a questionable amount to be able to go back and forget everything just to re-experience the history told throughout these games. It was amazing to hear your take.
I personally thought it was pretty decent. Good in some places, bad in others, certainly FAR better then I expected and far more good then bad. Pretty much all my fan theories on the show turned out wrong though.
that description sounds ALOT like fallout
witch i love tbh
I had a different take on Maximus. His background makes him feel a lack of belonging and he still hasn’t found his way. He still isn’t sure of his place of belonging and is why he was so compelled to vault living.
WARNING SPOILERS!
What I love about the show is the part where Lucy met a random dude in the dessert asking for water and Lucy actually taking her time to talk to him is hilarious. That kind of random encounter happens all the time in Fallout.
especially the part when the random characters get weird and you're just like "uh...i got to go now" lol
The best part is how she starts a conversation with her gun pointing at him, just like in the game.
It's The Wizard Of Oz. Think about it.
Wait, who's the lion?
(But yeah, I also got that feeling)
@@Descriptor413 Her brother! Glad I'm not the only one who sees the wizard of oz'ness. Ghoul is Scarecrow, Maximus is Tin Man. Dog Meat is Toto.. obviously. And Lucy's dad is Oz!
I want to push back a little on your analysis. As Screen Rant (I think) pointed out, they actually showed *3* Fallout character builds. Lucy was a more diplomatic playthrough, Maximus was a character that rushed Power Armor and of course ran with the Brotherhood, and Cooper ran a high Dex/End mutant build replete with Cannibalism, Iron Stomach, Gun Fu, Regeneration, etc.
Along those lines Norm character absolutely chose the small frame trait.👍
the only thing i felt missing was the existence of radio stations, which were far more common as shown in the games
Well, given one or more was likely located in Shady Sands, they might have been erased, the one we do see is an odd one out, we might be going to New Vegas in season 2 though so we might at least get Radio New Vegas
Much like the ghoul said the rule of the wasteland is to get sidetracked by everything
I'm honestly shocked how good this show was. I liked it. Excited to see season 2.
I know I just assumed it was going to be another show like the resident evil series but it's actually good
Could it have been better? Sure, if they had included some super mutants and deathclaws. I would have had a full on Fallout nerdgasm if Norm had selected a few brackets to eliminate dud passwords when he was hacking the Overseer's terminal.
Both Super Mutants and Deathclaws were in the show. They just didn’t have major roles.
@@jasonpeacock9735 no they weren't, they never show up at any point. the heck are you talking about?
@@e.corellius4495 there is a Super Mutant corpse on a gurney in the Enclave facility in episode 2. And, there’s a Deathclaw skull in the finale.
literally do not remember that at all, and literally just watched it yesterday. either way, barely involved at all.
They've gotta save some stuff for season 2, right?
Super Mutants are rare on the west coast by this time anyway, so I'm kinda glad they held off on them - but it looks like S2 is visiting New Vegas, which has a couple of mutant groups around (Tabitha's may or may not be gone by now though). I did expect Bethesda to do a Fallout 4 and put Maximus up against a Deathclaw instead of a Yao Guai early on, honestly, but we did see one's skull in the final scene. Maybe too much of the SFX budget went into the Gulpers.
The show was excellent. At some point, I was literally thinking to myself that this show had no right to be as good as it was lol. About halfway through, I started getting a little bored with the vault sections, and then the show started clicking all of the pieces into place and showing how everything was important and linked. They did a great job.
Internet goons are always going to look for something to be wrong and want everyone else to feel the same way, but the fact that even they have had squint so hard to find anything is a testament to how well done the show is.
The show was so good that part of me hates that this story was in the show because i want to play it in game format.
Ultimately, whether or not you like the TV show depends on whether you know how arrows on a chalkboard work.
Lol true. Finished the show and thought it was awesome. Opened reddit and tumblr to look for other reactions and all I saw was nv fan boys crying that the game had been retconned. Was super confused until I found why they were saying that😂
Yeah or whether or not you believe art pieces during the credits are 100% accurate and not just made to fit in with the rest of the credits.
@@lazy4sssame I was so confused and then I saw so many of them just saw a screenshot of the chalkboard and misread it
Oxhorn made a video talking about that even if the boom was a later date, it still causes lore problems. He desperately tried to make it work, but in the end, he felt the solution was to have the series set in a somewhat later date.
I've seen the """chads""" and """based""" people saying its DEI garbage basically just because there is a non-binary character in the brotherhood.
I like Lucy
I like Cooper
I hate Maximus
I think Max will become a villain, just looking at his actions, he is primed for a villain arc
Yeah I really didn't understand his motivation. What I thought it was, makes his decisions baffling to me. Like he was intentionally making the worst choice possible. Also a lot of the actor's line delivery threw me off.
I hated Maximus. His actions and words felt like they came from a completely different character, making his backstory feel irrelevant. If the goal was to make us loathe him, the show hit the bullseye. It felt like he was always on the verge of crying, and his constant whining doesn’t match what you'd expect from a Brotherhood of Steel member.
@@maitri1922 That is character. He wanted to be Robocop, but he was also very afraid to die. You did notice that even though he was a cry baby, the Brotherhood made him a tough SOB to take down.
@@themadmonk6379 maximus has continually failed upwards, that is why he doesn’t jive with you. He is entirely self-driven with the goal to be powerful, unlike how he was as a kid. That’s why he lies about being a knight, disregards the safety or opinions of others, acts maliciously to serve his own end (attacking Thaddeus after he reveals his secret and thaddeus doesn’t take it as he wants) his whole interaction with the head scribe is another showing both the first time with his “is it bad i wanted it to happen?” and later on when he makes him “his sword” so to speak. And he does it all while thinking he is the “Good guy” to his own story, despite causing problems everywhere he goes (noted by the head scribe even) he is a sociopathic narcissist who is only in it for himself.
There was one camera morph in Vault 4 that made me go back a few seconds and make sure I really saw that. Whole screen switched to a wider angle lens that was cropped in like the previous lens, but everything got noticeably more fish eye effect. Didn't try to hide it with a cut or anything, instead morphing the scene with characters from one camera to the next.
Maximus just reminds me of Finn from Star Wars, and no, it's s not a race thing. You have a guy who's already part of a group, has conflicted feelings on what he's doing, ultimately gets lucky by doing a thing.
wow with such vague comparisons you’re really demonstrating that it isn’t a race thing
I had the same feeling!
no its very similar. 1. Finn is basically a blank slate, he was taken as a child so he has no background other than being an army recruit. Same as Maximus.
2. Both of them are indoctrinated into a strict regime which they believe is doing the right thing by bringing order to a chaotic world.
3. As they witness the reality of how their group interacts with the world and the capacity for cruelty, they become disillusioned. Although Finn's group is obviously more overtly evil.
This show has made me realize there’s a certain portion of the Fallout fanbase that were never going to be happy with the TV show regardless of how good it was. It’s also made me aware of how little some of these people actually know about the Fallout lore themselves. As someone who considers themselves a hardcore Fallout fan I personally really enjoyed the TV show and I think they did an exceptional job with the adaptation. I’m very much looking forward to season 2 now.
I mean you can`t blame them. They wanted NCR but didn`t get them. (Unless you`re talking about the people calling the show woke. They`re just assholes.)
I personally love the show, but i get where they`re coming from to a degree.
I don't think the NCR is gone for good. The shady sands billboard says the first capitol. I have a feeling they moved. They mainly focused on the destruction of shady sands. It would not surprise me if they moved the capitol and their center of influence to new vegas. They have water and electricity there, and Mr. House is mostly likely dead.
@@user-tl3fv5ub6e Yeah I have to agree with your point. If you’re an NCR fan you kind of leave this show with the feeling that you’ve been shat on. I do feel like they could have handled that whole situation a lot better than they did in the show. But who knows what’s in store for season 2. The NCR wasn’t solely located at Shady Sands, that’s just its Capital, so I don’t think they show runners completely wiped the faction out or anything. Hopefully that’s not the case.
@@WarNvrChanges I held hope for the second season.
@@WarNvrChanges They shouldn't have wiped the entire NCR out, but it does feel like they did.
I recognized the actor who played Maximus from a Netflix show called Disjointed where he co-owned a Marijuana dispensary with his mom who was played by Kathy Bates... lol
i thought he looked familiar.
To give the composer credit for just ONE thing: The ghoul's yoadle. I like that it evokes the Good's motif from the good, bad and ugly, but the distortion makes it feel like an irradiated cowboy. Like...the good was out there and the bombs dropped.
Well after the ending scene of fallout season 1 looks like its gonna be in new vagas next
I went to play some fallout 4 and places like Cambridge Polymer labs hit differently after the show. Your able to picture the people before the war better. Especially since the military knew something was up
See this is what I loved about the show. Max was my absolute favorite character yet at the same time I can completely understand why you feel the way you do. They did an amazing job at pleasing so many crowds
exactly, I have the complete opposite opinion. I hated his character but not as a character I wish they never implemented but as a character itself. the actor did such a good job portraying what power can do to people and though he was seen as a neutral villain in my eyes, you can see good sides to him too but with those good sides, also had a cowardice side too. My favorite was the Ghoul because he was seen as an absolute bad A who just stop caring but wasn't inheritably bad, just shot people who got in his way. I think the show writers did an amazing job. Even Lucy.. she is us whenever we start a Fallout game.. an innocently naive person who turns into death incarnate in the wasteland and we get to see this slowly develop in her.
I am super excited to see how all 3 characters grow as the story continues into another season!
@@jacobwilliams1356 yeah absolutely. The ghoul was the kinda character that I didn't care for him this season but I see major growth/arcs coming for him in the future and that made me really excited
I felt the shower over all is a textbook example of how to make a GOOD adaptation.
Poor Norman, people forget he's a character too with his own segments.
i loved his segments. one of the most interesting things to do in the fallout games to me is investigating vaults and their secrets. so i was excited when ever they got back to vault 33. i want to know more! lol.
The sound design/effects are fantastic.
My biggest concern was were they going to have a Todd Howard version of Fallout or the Tim Cain version. And thankfully in tone and writing they went with Tim and visuals they went with Todd. And I was very happy to see that. In general BGS does NOT have writers up to the skill of Fallout 1, 2 or NV (because they all were written, made by original devs of FO). But they are really good at aesthetics and visuals. Thankfully the writers of the series had the chops to be on par with what Cain and his crew did. So I was VERY happy with the dark comedy, satire, mood and drama of FO 1, 2 and NV. Excellent series and I pray to the Pipboy gods we get S2.
Best of both worlds
I liked when the overseer of 4 called her goosy lol 🤣
It was basically perfect. The cast, writing, just everything. They did an amazing job.
My honest opinion. I think you're wrong with it. Feeling like a fallout game because that's where most of their audience. And second of all, it's not a bad thing because most of the fun in The fallout game ain't even the main missions like most fallout games have better side missions than main missions. Same thing with the TV show throughout the TV show. After the first episode you get little hints about what's going on and then they explore it. It gives You time to explore the other characters have that one-on-one dialogue with other characters. Explore different places and give you glimpse on the pass. And as a show goes on, we see a naive. Lucy turn into a wastelander. I think that's interesting cuz she got to see the darkness she got to see the darkness her father she got to support the world and what it is like to be a wastelander because really if you get a bounty something you're just going from place to place and picking up little information. Or if you're doing like a run. Like if your carrier you're going to stop at places and lose sight of the main mission that's why I think you're wrong because that's the type of show it is. I meant it would be unrealistic as soon as she gets out there to find her father. She has to go through place to play us and gather information and stuff😊
And to be honest, it is not like the three main characters just randomly went out of their way to do side quests. Their situations sidetracked them, it was organic. When we play the games, it was like, hey, let me go do this thing on the other side of the map because I am bored.
I'm liking the show a lot thus far - side question: what gun is this in the gameplay? I've never seen it and want it 8:41
It's a mod, I'm pretty sure it's the ultimate M4 pack!
@@ACE9659 I'll check it out, thanks 😁Have a good one
Lets not forget how absolutely on point the music selection was
The music had me smiling and humming throughout the show I loved it so much 😂
I thought the "side story" aspect was a nice touch, to each its own I guess. I cannot wait until season 2. Maybe the Legion. I actually enjoyed Maximus was very interesting to me. I like him and there is a lot of potential there.Also is there a way to bring the Enclave back without crapping on the existing lore?
I feel like Maximus will become a villain in s2 just from all his actions in s1 seem to lead into a villain origin arc
They can bring the Enclave back through flashbacks. They could even just have Enclave pockets all over the US that did not get wiped out. I'm pretty sure Cooper's wife is Enclave, and she seems very alive.
Episode 2. Wilzig escaped from one of these “pockets” of the Enclave still very alive…
In Fallout 76, the Enclave is “alive” and has a very powerful presence in West Virginia.
… just speculation… and it took me the second time watching this to notice… but did anyone else noticed the shadowed person overlooking the flashback meeting between Vault Tec and the other major corporations…?
Hanks wife gets a message on her pip boy and looks up at someone…
My guess is this may be someone from the Enclave and this may evolve in season 2
@@koition bingo, the enclave are crazy enough to build a bunch of secret bunkers for insurance if they fail
@@jackmeowmeowmeow2177 Exactly and we have an example of this in Fallout 76 beneath the Whitesprings Hotel.
A vault that is entirely for the Enclave.
You can join them and do Enclave missions.
I would have to imagine there are a few of these across the US yet to be discovered.
I hope season 2 has energy weapons in use, i want to see someone turned into a goo pile! I want a horde of Deathclawd just absolutely going to town on a town. I want a speech check actually working and everyout being confused on why it worked. And i want another Dweller to be shown, a battle hardened rouged Dweller who has been shaped by the Wasteland, no longer has any of the innocence or sunshine of their Vault.
I mean, they showed New Vegas, Maybe Lucy will meet Courier Six or people who knew them, maybe even a ideologically opposed Mojave BoS Chapter that disagrees with the current factions behavior.
And I'd laugh hard if some fool wanders into Boomer territory
@@UNSCPILOTthey also had a young Mr.House, and it seems like he’s very much in line with his New Vegas representation.
Then write your own show. with all your wants.
@@UNSCPILOT Would be rad if we ever see live action Doc Mitchell
I watched this show with my wife. A Fallout gamer with over 1,000 hours in the games, and a non-gamer with no knowledge of the Fallout universe at all. I think the fact that they formatted the show like the games are played worked well. I wanted the show to feel like the games. I wanted the show to introduce my wife to the universe in a way that matched my experience. But it also did a lot of things a game can't do. They showed the perspective of three very different people experiencing the same events from three very different perspectives.
My favorite aspect of the show hands down was Cooper's character. Every time he was on screen (pre or post-war), I was glued to my screen. Every time he was off screen, I wanted him back!
9/10. Only flaw was that they didn't have enough fallout creatures
I agree
i was high when i watched it tbh but that one bit of maximus and lucy dialogue felt like the writer was higher than me
The scene in vault 4 when she’s reading the timeline and the Fo4 theme kicked in was gorgeous
The visuals and the songs and sounds were just done PERFECTLY for me. The fact that everything down to the sounds the computers made our the hacking scene was so well done. I can't wait for season 2 and to go back and play fallout 4 again.
When they showed the NCR flag and that NV theme droppped!! I got goosebumps haha
I like the characters but I’m not a fan of the direction of the world of fallout. Spoiler
Choosing to wipe out the NCR and reset the wasteland back to square one is irritating. For one I don’t believe the NCR would just revert to a band of raiders in just a two decades. They were spread as far as Arizona, with a population of nearly a million. No way they wouldn’t have reestablished a new base of power somewhere els and just continued on. And two why reset the wasteland back to a lawless state with no order. Humans progressed in the last 100 years. The hub and vault city still exist. The NCR doesn’t exist anymore but it’s not like a 100 years of establishing order would be undone in two decades.
Brother, we are never told it has been wiped out, it is no longer present around the LA and Shady Sands area because of the obvious, but it could very well be surviving in northern California or some place like the Hub. Remember that by FNV, the NCR is struggling in the Mojave, and is turning into an over-extended, war-hawkish state riddled with corruption, turmoil, and ineffective administration. We are also told that it was at risk of famine and relies on Hoover Dam for water and electricity, something that could have very well crippled them further if they were kicked out of the Mojave, which seems to be the case.
Only problem lore wise I noticed is that they said shady sands was destroyed prior to new Vegas game began
Goggins is EPIC, and Lucy is a very likeable character as well. Loved the nods at the lore and things like items and posters etc 😊
My only issue is the boneyard missing- hopefully that IS still there and this was just a small issue. Correct the map, Bethesda, that’s all.
I was waiting for super mutants. They are quite prevalent in the games and should have been in the show. I am sure they left them out of the first season because they would have been expensive to include.
@@DVankeuren yeah but the master died in FO1 so no one would be making more mutants with the destruction of mariposa where I'd think most of them also died
This show is the first adaptation of a video game property where I felt they creators weren't embarrassed of being based on a video games, they get alot the little right, and while I don't necessarily like alot of the things they did to the lore I didn't hate watching and would recommend to fans of Fallout
HAHA no. this is Bethesda way of getting someone to retcon New Vegas without them having to do. Happened to another Fallout game made by Black Isle Studios. Fallout Tactics. F*ck Them and Juice being a corporate d*ckrider.
one thought i had. in the first episode, lucy tagged her "husband" as a raider after putting on her pip boy and getting a rad reading from him. how did she know what a raider was? i assumed that their vault had not opened to the outside yet and didn't know anything about it.
Vault dwellers don't have rads or disease. It's a common way to tell from the vault and raiders.
My Wife and I watched it together and both loved it. She's not a gamer and only knows of Fallout through watching me play on occasion so I see that as an absolute win. I especially loved how well the characters were written. Lucy isn't a Wasteland Mary Sue. She's quirky, naive, and vulnerable but also tough, charismatic, and unrelenting.
It was a totally missed opportunity to not use the score of new vegas and fallout 1 and 2
They did use it at the beginning and at the end
idk when they had that shot of the NCR flag in the classroom wasn't the actual new vegas theme playing?
Pal wait till they get to New Vegas proper next season
@@jamesforrest9837 The Fallout theme.
Sorry i think they screwed up ghouls
From vault dwellers walking around with that look on their face to the doctor i loved it only thing i wish they added was a deathclaw or a tpose ghoul
"Will you still want the same thing when you become an entirely different beast" this is the question that the doctor asked Lucy In episode 1 And I'm now realizing that's not exactly something that came to fruition in the show. Though she did become a different beast that's not what caused her to no longer want her dad back it was his actions And her learning about them not her growth. I feel like this quote lines up best with the ghoul. We get to see a family-driven man before the bombs drop and then everything that we see of him after that is a monster near entire lack of empathy he's become a different beast literally and mentally. But then in the final moments of the show it's revealed that he still wants the same thing he still keeps fighting just for his family. I don't know if this was intentional but that's what I'm reading it as so far.
!!! Spoilers Below - watch the entirety of Season 1 before reading !!!
Okay - here are some of my observations. FO4 sort of galled me for having gaping main arc plot holes... and there are a few here too, sadly.
Moldaver:
- If she was NCR, why did she use actual Raiders to invade Vault 33? Why not the armored troopers with heavy ordnance we saw at the final battle?
- Why let some guy bang and then try to kill Lucy? She knew the girl was Rose’ daughter from the marriage request. They could have attacked the second the doors opened and made hostages of the entire gate-keeper entourage, or simply taken Hank then.
- Why take Hank when she knew Vault 31 was right there full of Vault-Tec’s leadership? Why use the bomb to block Vault 32’s entrance when she could have used it to enter Vault 31 and capture them all then and there?
- Why keep Feral Rose? Ferals feel eternal hunger, which she would have known. Was Rose really her friend, considering what she was doing to her, and willing to have done to her daughter?
- Siggi was bringing her the specs for fusion, so how did she already have a full containment and computer control system built, plug and play ready, for it in advance? Why did she need it at all?
NCR:
- Shady Sands was one of dozens of cities, and the NCR beat both Ceasar and the BOS in FNV. Unless House (in the House Always Wins arc) continued a relentless war against them that they lost, why would the NCR be gone? They should be a largely unopposed major power.
Vault-Tec:
- If inter-vault computer records are restricted, that means they exist. How did Vault 31 not know about Vault 32’s situation or Rose’s pipboy activating the main doors from the outside? Doug the Brain could not have been behind that broom for long, he had to use the overseer terminal to reply to Norm’s impersonated messages from ‘Betty’.
- How long did Moldaver and the Raiders hang out in Vault 32 waiting for a marriage exchange? How did Doug the Brain in Vault 31 not see them on the cameras?
- How did Vault 32 get fixed up in one night? Even if all the cryo sleep folks were awaken, it is unlikely they would get oriented and motivated, much less know how to fully make repairs, in such a short time. There would have to be loads of robots in Vault 31.
- If waiting out all other factions was the ‘time’ goal before reclamation day can happen, and vaults were not built to last indefinitely, and Doug acknowledged in the meeting that other survivors would exist, why did he assume ‘time’ would work?
- If Hank could nuke Shady Sands, how? Vault Tec had no nukes… If it is now canon that they did, then how many? Why not use them all? If few, then why use one at all? Only hitting one city would guarantee investigations by all other major factions into who did it and how.
BOS
- How did they know Siggi’s relative whereabouts, but not be able to guess his destination? To use fusion, a faction needs tech and resources. Couldn’t be Raiders, the Enclave was gone, Siggi wouldn’t go near the Children of Atom, and that leaves only the NCR or House. No point starting a pissing contest with House on a 50/50, so Moldaver was their only good choice for them confront. If Moldaver is known by everyone, as repeatedly implied, and their intel is so good they can track Siggi 3000 miles, how did they not know where to find Moldaver and that she was the destination? The last battle should have been the opener for the series. War never changes.
Cooper Howard (the Ghoul)
- He cannot be harmed by numerous gunshots but everyone he shoots explodes and dies in a single hit? He is a 200+ years experienced cowboy with honed instincts and incredible skills. Why not just make him good, instead of being a comically overplayed bullet sponge trope as a sidewise nod to the game mechanics? He could have been written as wearing body armor that isn't made of paper and duct tape, like the NCR and BOS commandos at the end fight. He was a marine with intimate knowledge of military-grade armor systems, after all.
- How did he know to shoot the knights in the 'special spot' at the end, but not Maximus at the beginning?
- So, he wants to find his daughter? We can assume she and he survived the bombs falling within incredibly close range, as depicted in episode 1. He would have had to have run into his (ex?) wife, who would then have taken the child away from him, and refusing to bring him along, just to save her. So... why is he looking for her if he gave her up willingly to save her life? Did his ex shoot him to save the daughter? Why would that make him angry or seek her out? Wouldn't he assume both died a very long time ago of old age, since there has been nothing to suggest he was aware of cryo freeze until he saw Hank/Henry (Lucy's dad)? If he was previously aware of it, then why wouldn't he just scour all the known vault locations? If Moldaver knew were vault 33 was, and knew all about it from Rose some 27 years prior, then how did he not find it in 200 years? There would only have been so many within quick driving range of the nuclear strikes, the radius is actually incredibly small. He would also know how to procure a pip-boy, since those are literally hanging in shop windows, and of course, he is an incredibly capable tracker. So much of his apparent character motivation seems steeped in a kind of fiercely certain determination on the surface, but completely lacking a logical framework underneath. He either let his wife take his daughter because he could not save her himself, or, she was taken by force, and over 200 years has gone by. So why look for her? Just to know her fate? Is that enough of a reason? Or, is she also a Ghoul, and he knows it? If so, why is he chasing down Vault Tec at all? I'm hoping there isn't more lazy writing on his arc's continuity.
Lucy
- She fooled around with her cousin, but knew not to get knocked up because of genetic diversity concerns. She slept with the raider, but has not yet thought to question if she is pregnant or if she has STDs. She offered to sleep with Maximus, still completely unconcerned about STDs or lack of contraceptives. Why haven't STDs or babies come to mind? Her intro said she had medical training. It feels like this will be a thing in a future season, and isn't consistent to the supposed training of the character at the onset, "What's your sperm count?"
-She let a robot attach a dead finger to her, then the next scene is exposed to the grim reality that all the other patients at the organ clinic are Ghouls... So... How is that thing working so well? She is trained in Human biology. She knows better. The credibility of the character's basic competencies, when she isn't shooting a gun or learning how to be waster-sassy, are thrown out for cheap story moments. They were consistent in showing the new finger in later scenes, but this had better be a foreshadowing. Like when she said to Cooper, "One day I may look like you, but I'll never be like you." Or that she metaphorically followed her mother’s footsteps instead of her fathers in the last episode, but her mom ended up a Ghoul. It'd be great if they turned a main character into a Ghoul during the adventure, especially since they've added the new anti-feral serum mechanic to canon. But I suspect it isn't that deep. I hope I'm wrong.
Maximus
- Lets his knight die, then reveals himself to his new squire / old bully, then tries to immediately murder said squire / old bully, then decides vault-life is the life for him, then betrays his order with a fake head, then lies again by claiming he was leading them to victory when he fully planned on betraying them to Lucy - again - just to live in the security of a vault. So, he is just an emotionless opportunist willing to commit homicide - wastelanders, the BOS, Vault 4, the NCR remnants - literally anyone - to get by? What makes him different than any of the dozens of background character killed throughout the show? The Ghoul, Cooper Howard, is at least charismatic and driven. Maximus is a hollow vessel pulled along by whatever the strongest current is in a given power dynamic. Barring some serious character development, which might fly in the face of what appears to be pathological behavior, his character is not even an anti-hero. He's just a sidekick primed to die in a later scene, and it feels like he is being built up as central to the story so that the audience has a reaction to his inevitable loss. But how could we when only someone equally devoid of Human emotions could relate to him? His name should be Minimus.
Also, the code Hank gave was 101097 - 10/10/1997 was the release date for Fallout 1.
On another note we know friendly super mutants were given citizenship in the ncr so there should still be some around so where are they?
My theory after seeing NV at the end was that this is a timeline where house won and the ncr was lost Southern California and now only controls north cali based out of San Francisco or vault city.
I also question how the enclave could still be around in the west coast since we know after the explosion of the oil rig all remaining enclave operatives where either united down or Dlea’s to the east coast. If they had other hidden basses why didn’t the ex enclave members in NV go to any of them. I feel the lore in some places doesn’t make sense in the show so season 2 will have to clarify a lot.
Lastly I don’t like how the show canonizes an ending to new Vegas. I always liked how NV was really your story to end the west coast trilogy so making one of the ending cannon just feels wrong
@@theognaz4732 i think that enclave base or research facility is not on the west but rather on east coast i think that cuz after all BOS from the commonwealth have the intel on dr.willzig and they are loking for him, and we saw at that base snowe i think that base is in chicago, according to EDE enclave has few outpost up there so i think that is chicago.
My biggest issue with their handling of the NCR. The show was amazing, but I really thought the off screen death of the NCR doesn’t make any sense, and destroys decades of world building for no reason
Fall of shady sands doesn't mean the entire NCR is gone... The NCR wasn't only in southern california.
@@VXR_Modsstill but their influence on California is completely erased. Every person in the show should have been born into a country with laws and trade routs. It seems like they’re just gonna reduce it all to shanty towns and cousin fuckers
I was a lot angrier when I first watched the show but after thinking on it, I think it’ll be really interesting depending on where they take it. I’m not going to be too upset until season 2. Like others have said the NCR is really big so they might’ve lost presence here but not other places. Also I think they’re setting up their comeback with max from the bos. Also I’m pretty sure the bombings occurred sometime in the mid 2280s not right in 2277. My guess is the term “fall” refers to how we can look back at empires and say this is truly when the fall of its greatness began.
@@VXR_Mods true, but it’s very strange to have no references to the broader NCR. Additionally, why would so many flee to vault 4 of the NCR still existed in other areas?
I think Bethesda in general seems to be against the idea of a “post post apocalypse.” The existence of proper rebuilding and the criticisms of said rebuilding is something that hasn’t been explored in all 4 of the Bethesda fallout media(3, 4, 76, TV)
@@banana2966 I agree. I’m no longer angry, more apprehensive. I still do think it’s strange that the broader NCR isn’t mentioned once
I thought in episode 7 when he got shot with a Arrow, it was going to expose he was a synth
i'm not sure the institute has any operations on the west coast🤷. but i do think he was given FEV. his healing seemed advanced for a ghoul. he's going to be a super mutant.
Tip for something for you to cover up, there is a movement in Brazil called "Mães de Sá" that is about help to find missing people. And now they are using Starfield as a tool to spread the image and info of these missing people to the community of players. Streamers are playing as characters that look like the missing people.
I juat really hated seeing the T60 fly like Ironman
That must’ve been traumatic for you man I’m so sorry
@@ManuelKomnenosI not really.
It was just cringey when the jet pack exists
@@RougeSanta True and based
I really like the TV show
A thing i really enjoyed was how the show highlighted some of fallouts morally gray decisions. Like u see all this factions and when u take them at face value they can seem rather bad, but then the more u learn about them u can start to see some really good reasons for why they do the things they do. Which always leaves u guessing as to who really is the "good guy".
The "aimless" wondering wasn't aimless as more world building for those not as in the know in the franchise. Also clearly you haven't seen the directors other work Weestworld. Because it pretty much flows the same way.
As a longtime Fallout fan, I had zero complaints about the series, as I received so much more than I thought I would and then some. The series gave us fans something that Bethesda has never given us: a true pre-war experience. I cannot be the only fan who has fantasized about seeing and living that pre-war Fallout experience. Lore expansion, questions answered, constant Easter eggs, lovable characters all leaving me hungry for more. Rarely, do I tend to rewatch series, but I will definitely be rewatching these eight episodes. Graham, lead writer has played all the game and it shines like it.
I've got different feelings on the series as a whole. It was an okay watch but I kept finding different flaws in just basic logic and writing that would tick me off.
I liked some of the comically over the top things like the ridiculously huge packs carried by the squires, but I also like some of the more realistic things like how Lucy used the stimpak but still needed a bandage or how it took a while on an IV drip for the Rad-away to work.
Good analysis. I also felt the writing sometimes failed to provide all the necessary details and that some things needed more time to develop. But overall my thoughts are very positive and I really enjoyed the show.
I really liked the first season, and it felt like Fallout. BUT, there are lore conflict issues that I didn't like. I know the games have done some retconning, and making the NCR basically a raider faction wasn't something I liked. I plan to rewatch though.
People keep saying lore issues but don’t say exactly how. NCR isn’t a raider faction.
@@jackmeowmeowmeow2177 THey become that in the TV series.
The NCR in the show is as much a raider faction as the Brotherhood. Both are after the power sourse. Both will start a war over it....
@@Kornelius707 But the "NCR" gained access to a vault, then started murdering the residents for no reason. Indeed, Lucy calls them "raiders" (not sure how she'd know about that) once they stop the pretense.
I have no complaints about this season. It was good 👍🏼
My disappointment is that there are no robots like '''Protecton''
The wildest thing for me was learning "Walton Goggins" was the actor's name, not the Ghoul's. It's a perfect Fallout name.
Personally, I think it's a solid series with a great cast and a good story.
But there is one aspect that I and other fans of the franchise have a bit of a problem with:
The destruction of Shady Sands and the downfall of the NCR.
I have a mixed opinion on this issue. On the one hand, I don't think the decline of the NCR as a faction or the minor inconsistencies with the time frame are a problem in and of themselves. The extinction of the NCR kind of fits with the "war never changes" narrative of the franchise. It shows that no government, no matter how cruel or just, can stand up to the harsh realities of this world.
But then again, wiping out Shady Sands without addressing the demise of one of the most powerful factions in California and establishing the Brotherhood of Steel as the de facto new rulers of the former NCR territory with access to unlimited energy is kind of a symbolic act on Bethesda's part.
I am also angry and disappointed about this. But it's Bethesda, so I'm also not surprised. They've always favored the Brotherhood and did anything to justify their presence anywhere and at any time in the timeline
Have to disagree about the middle episodes completely as they are big parts of how Maximus & Lucy's characters grow both in general and closer to each other. Your comments on Maximus in particular show you really missed what his character was and just were not paying attention since you decided you disliked him already. Don't get me wrong he is the weakest of of the three leads, but he is also a Wastelander in the truest sense, both in good and bad ways.
Maximus is poised to become the s2 Villain, lucy’s dad nuked him, lied and hurt the people he is supposed to be aligned with (Fellow Squire+Knight), lied to Lucy repeatedly, even the first scene “is it bad I wanted it to happen” he is the other bad guy
I say double because of Cooper’s line “a good bad guy thinks he is the good guy” or whatever
One of the concepts I really loved on how they leaned on vs how they do it in the games. Is vault-tec and their experiments. In the video games, it was a bit more nuanced, but they did an amazing job leaning into it.
Every single prop making the correct sound as it was used was the icing on the cake this show is a 10 out of 10 I'm already going to start rewatching it
To each their own I suppose. I did not care for the show. I have to agree on the props and sets, one of my buddies made many of the props for the show.
I really, really liked the series, but I hate what they did to NCR! They gave middle finger to Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas!
How?
It's 20 years after Fallout NV, and Hank is heading to NV. Things change in 20 years.
Correctamundo.
@@jackmeowmeowmeow2177 1. Complete disregard for geography (Shady Sands was a separate city in the desert, not part of Los Angeles).
2. Ignoring dozens of other cities that were part of the NCR (Hub, Boneyard, Necropolis, Junktown, New Reno, Vault-City). All these cities couldn't just disappear!
3. Complete disregard for the small factions that were in California (Shu, Followers of the apocalypse) Instead of smaller factions, according to the version of the series, we have the most ordinary raiders
4. The complete lack of organization of society. The NCR was a state that promoted laws, built a new society, and had an entire army, technologies! But in the series, all people are savages, and the only city is a dump without any kind of power system!
@@gladiatorone9023 except in the flashback you see the NCR was at a higher point with trains and such in Shady Sands. And just because we don’t see The Hub, or Boneyard etc, doesn’t mean they don’t exist, they could simply be located in more logical areas like how people would build cities according to logic not build a new city from dirt in the middle of the desert to be the Capital, but would cannibalize current existing infrastructure, like The Pitt. You see a small fraction of the world and you say anything you don’t see doesn’t exist. You have no object permanence or something in that case. Moving Shady Sands literally changes nothing lore wise except location which is just logical, you can move these other cities to other regions. Which doesn’t matter, a nonissue with fake fabricated outrage. Did you rage because of geographical changes from GOT show and the books? Lack of organization tends to happen when you fracture a majority of the government then let a handful of whoever faction fight over a power vacuum, you hear as much from Mr. House in FNV.
Acting like fo2 didn’t change things from fo1 lore is overlooked by everyone of these fake fanboy raging in comments claiming that it “ruins” fallout.
The Ghoul... He is for sure my favorite character in the show. I have always liked the actor who plays him
I think they should expand Maximus. Lucy had her character Arc with her evolution as Wastelander and i think Maximus should also experience the same for Season 2.