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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • I talk about the Fallout TV show and my experiences at the Hollywood premiere on April 9, 2024.

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  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD 5 месяцев назад +1450

    I imagine this is like that guy at a party meme "They don't know I created Fallout"

    • @joshu1898
      @joshu1898 5 месяцев назад +42

      This made me laugh, thank you. So true tho

  • @MildManneredBen
    @MildManneredBen 5 месяцев назад +5692

    I think it’s nice that Todd always seems to make a point of inviting Tim whenever there is a big Fallout related launch or event.

    • @thehappynihilist1843
      @thehappynihilist1843 5 месяцев назад +559

      Actually kinda warmed my heart as well.

    • @SpartanArmy117
      @SpartanArmy117 5 месяцев назад +639

      Yeah it shows he really does respect Tim and love Fallout as a franchise.

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide 5 месяцев назад +455

      Todd has always said he takes his inspiration from Fallout 1 instead of Fallout 2.

    • @somewhatreallycoolguy7439
      @somewhatreallycoolguy7439 5 месяцев назад +293

      @@OCinneidemakes sense. fo3 always felt like a true wasteland while nv always felt like a frontier

    • @bemlok
      @bemlok 5 месяцев назад +89

      Meanwhile he still ignoring New Vegas

  • @maddyrolon.mp4
    @maddyrolon.mp4 4 месяца назад +461

    10:27 hi tim!! i was actually a background actor for the filly scenes. i can confirm there were many background actors who were fans of the series. i’ve been a fan of the series for a long time so i went out of my way to try and connect with other fans on set. i trend i noticed even more frequently was that were many 40+ year old background actors who would talk about how their kid loves the series so they went out of their way to take the gig. multiple background actors with grandchildren told me about their adult sons giving them detailed run downs on the whole series and it’s lore and vibe so they would be better prepared and how they diligently listened. the set was amazing on that project, i met so many wonderful people

    • @LAVATORR
      @LAVATORR 4 месяца назад +22

      I cannot express in words how much I love these types of stories. It's so fascinating to see older people come to understand gaming truly is a rich art form with vast narrative possibilities.

    • @gryffuscze
      @gryffuscze 4 месяца назад +1

      I would like to know how much of them actually speak about Fallout 1 and 2 and not those ripoffs from Bethesda.

    • @SpaceMissile
      @SpaceMissile 4 месяца назад +1

      awesome comment. 👏

    • @leagueoflegends1423
      @leagueoflegends1423 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@LAVATORR if you think about it, if you played FO1 when you were 20, you're almost 50 Today.

    • @LAVATORR
      @LAVATORR 3 месяца назад

      @@leagueoflegends1423 I refuse to think about anything except huge butts.

  • @Leszczomen
    @Leszczomen 5 месяцев назад +6588

    Hey Tim, just letting you know that ppl do enjoy your development stories! I know they don't get much views or attention versus your other stuff, but even when it's a smaller audiance please know that those things are appriciated.

    • @Boaan
      @Boaan 5 месяцев назад +204

      I have to echo this sentiment. I'm a solo developer with two very small in scope games on Steam, so hearing Tim's stories and insight is actually very helpful in letting me grow as a developer.

    • @mattmatuszewski39
      @mattmatuszewski39 5 месяцев назад +31

      Im here to agree with this statement as well!

    • @spbalance
      @spbalance 5 месяцев назад +13

      Yes

    • @stevedowning3892
      @stevedowning3892 5 месяцев назад +16

      Also here to agree with this 👍

    • @Nope-ity-nope-nope
      @Nope-ity-nope-nope 5 месяцев назад +14

      Wait, is there any other reason to be here?

  • @possessedslig
    @possessedslig 5 месяцев назад +4208

    How surreal it must be to watch a show based on something you created 30 years before

    • @The_Death_Owl
      @The_Death_Owl 5 месяцев назад +204

      It's gotta be weird seeing something you made twice removed decades later like a grandchild of your own work!

    • @TheMissinLink
      @TheMissinLink 5 месяцев назад +33

      just wanted to shout out your PFP. One of my favorite albums. Cool to see it here of all places.

    • @theseventhdman
      @theseventhdman 5 месяцев назад +28

      Based company flow enjoyers

    • @Deadrum
      @Deadrum 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@TheMissinLinkwow no kidding. I wouldn’t have even noticed if you didn’t point it out
      Certified classic for me

    • @possessedslig
      @possessedslig 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@TheMissinLink Fallout and Company Flow, what could be better? 😉

  • @JounLord1
    @JounLord1 5 месяцев назад +348

    I love how Tim loves the entire Fallout franchise, the stuff he made directly and the stuff he didn't. Guy was going to wear Nuka Cola Quantum cufflinks. That shows what a class act he is.

    • @John1045
      @John1045 5 месяцев назад +2

      Are you a bot?

    • @JounLord1
      @JounLord1 5 месяцев назад +51

      @@John1045 I dunno, I do have a lot of trouble with captchas.

    • @John1045
      @John1045 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@JounLord1 hehe

    • @John1045
      @John1045 5 месяцев назад

      @@JounLord1 Nice try, Chatgpt.

    • @kikirikikirlafsdfskd
      @kikirikikirlafsdfskd 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@JounLord1 That mean you are not bot. Captchas are against real persons...

  • @chompchomp561
    @chompchomp561 5 месяцев назад +291

    This is the kindest way someone has told me to touch grass.

  • @stacksmalacks8826
    @stacksmalacks8826 5 месяцев назад +490

    In one of the episodes there is a very prominent "Tim" graffti tag on a pillar in one shot and I choose to believe its for Uncle Tim

    • @testfire3000
      @testfire3000 5 месяцев назад +26

      I accept that as the truth until proven otherwise.

    • @cXspXr
      @cXspXr 5 месяцев назад +2

      as far as creation goes, inspiration can come from anywhere and with so many people on a project then the possibilities increase much higher. so although we may never know, you may be correct.

    • @cam5816
      @cam5816 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@cXspXrit was actually a reference to me

    • @bacchus8081
      @bacchus8081 2 месяца назад

      @@cXspXr That's what I loved about his story about the "looser villager"-extra. There is no way to know wether he did it as a homage for sure, but if you let enough truly passionate people work on a project then you will inevitably end up with some hidden gems.

  • @UToobUsername01
    @UToobUsername01 5 месяцев назад +137

    If anything happens to Tim, it was not a suicide. Hunt Oscar the murder bot.

  • @MrVisualHigh
    @MrVisualHigh 5 месяцев назад +29

    The internet has jaded me so much that I expected this to be a guy complaining about what others have done with his creation. Turns out Tim is a delight.

    • @nikjuttun5677
      @nikjuttun5677 5 месяцев назад +8

      Honestly pleasantly surprised to see him actually enjoy and love what they've done. Of course, you still have the fans who are convinced he's lying and that they know him better than he knows his own opinions lol

  • @OisEucalypt
    @OisEucalypt 5 месяцев назад +882

    Yeah, we need to get you to have an in show cameo. Even if just a background character or on a poster. Love the giddy enthusiasm you have for this show.

    • @jedimackan2594
      @jedimackan2594 5 месяцев назад +30

      Agree, Tim should be in the show, he is a godfather of Fallout franchise.

    • @sigmamaverick9215
      @sigmamaverick9215 5 месяцев назад +16

      Overseer Jacoren picture somewhere. With him

    • @Dlf212
      @Dlf212 5 месяцев назад +4

      Or a "background" vault dweller.

    • @drewblood
      @drewblood 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@sigmamaverick9215 Love this idea!

    • @jacobcarnes2220
      @jacobcarnes2220 5 месяцев назад +15

      He should be the mysterious stranger

  • @Alexa2z
    @Alexa2z 5 месяцев назад +2290

    Where’s your cameo Tim!?

    • @dayoltay
      @dayoltay 5 месяцев назад +85

      This!!

    • @another_random_ace8820
      @another_random_ace8820 5 месяцев назад +77

      Yeah I was expecting a cameo and was disappointed that he never showed up

    • @Galildoughty
      @Galildoughty 5 месяцев назад +65

      Next season maybe?

    • @greenshard
      @greenshard 5 месяцев назад +1

      why?

    • @mikeyb0121
      @mikeyb0121 5 месяцев назад +245

      @@greenshardbecause he developed the first game? The games or the show wouldn’t exist without him

  • @alexa500
    @alexa500 5 месяцев назад +266

    Please don't stop uploading!!! Your YT content is SO important. Refreshing perspectives and educational/insightful, which is what I use RUclips for and miss from the 00s of YT!

  • @cykeok3525
    @cykeok3525 5 месяцев назад +1255

    > ...because apparently my game development stories are not interesting to you people
    Tim, we never said that XD
    Thanks for your thoughts on the TV show nevertheless :D

    • @38procentkrytyk
      @38procentkrytyk 5 месяцев назад +26

      10 k views is a solid number for development topics.

    • @alexharvey7660
      @alexharvey7660 5 месяцев назад +14

      yeah, they are somewhat more niche so I understand how they might not get as many views, but i really enjoy them

    • @mikealaniz7236
      @mikealaniz7236 5 месяцев назад

      I definitely think it tho

    • @thenorthowl2033
      @thenorthowl2033 5 месяцев назад

      the analytics speak for itself

    • @eprofengr6670
      @eprofengr6670 5 месяцев назад

      For real, this Tim Cain character is very interesting.

  • @Hugo_Dvz
    @Hugo_Dvz 5 месяцев назад +263

    your game dev stories genuinely provide so much inspiration when I start to feel burned out Tim !! your passion is contagious

  • @tgs7515
    @tgs7515 5 месяцев назад +21

    Dude, you are so humble and adorable, and it’s so incredible that you’re getting all of the attention and love that you deserve for creating one of the greatest gaming franchises ever.
    I also didn’t know about your coming out until recently, and as an elder gay guy myself, who moved to California in my early 20s and binged through Fallout as a method of dealing with the isolation and depression of moving to a new state without any friends or family - I can honestly say that you helped save my life. I also vividly remember how amazing it was to play a game in the early 2000s that had, to me, obvious queer themes and moments was indescribable. It helped me feel seen, and I can’t thank you enough for that.
    Be well, man. Wish all the best for you.

  • @codylamp6814
    @codylamp6814 5 месяцев назад +436

    On the topic of Fallout 1, I’ve heard you say numerous times that there is so much of you in that game. Can you elaborate further? We’ve heard a ton about the development, the crew, the headaches. Can you dig into the more emotional aspects of “ There’s so much of me in that game”.

    • @pracitus
      @pracitus 5 месяцев назад +64

      He has a LOT of videos of that, you should give them a look

    • @dospulgasenunperro
      @dospulgasenunperro 5 месяцев назад +28

      Yes, he does have a lot of videos explaining that, very good ones. I think It was like the first couple of videos Tim put on his channel.

    • @codylamp6814
      @codylamp6814 5 месяцев назад +38

      @@pracitus I have watched all his videos, he doesn’t get to deep into how he has in put his feelings, emotions, and self into the game. He usually talks about his personal interests at the time. When some one says “there’s so much of me” I’m inclined to take it as, there are characters, story’s, struggles that I have put in the game reflecting my own stories and struggles. That’s what I’m looking for, Tim’s human element worked into the game.

    • @InaneBlatherPodcast
      @InaneBlatherPodcast 5 месяцев назад +8

      well according to my lady friends in Fallout 2, he is a very generous lover

  • @shadowpoet4398
    @shadowpoet4398 5 месяцев назад +128

    Hey Tim, I just realized you're the one to thank.
    Your game series changed my life forever and it got me through the WORST years of my life.
    Thank you for everything, man. You're the best!!

  • @ghosttrick2374
    @ghosttrick2374 5 месяцев назад +161

    Tim dont get discouraged! We love your development stories! Stay awesome!

  • @scfan7231
    @scfan7231 5 месяцев назад +236

    "An evening in the life of Tim Cain" -- Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @BillyCobbOfficial
    @BillyCobbOfficial 5 месяцев назад +681

    Next time you run into Todd you should totally pitch that fallout idea you have, heh

    • @mattihaapoja8203
      @mattihaapoja8203 5 месяцев назад +27

      Or maybe but some anthrax into his drink.

    • @metetural9140
      @metetural9140 5 месяцев назад +218

      ​@@mattihaapoja8203
      *-dislike game man makes*
      *-decides on murder*

    • @anusername8350
      @anusername8350 5 месяцев назад +68

      ​@mattihaapoja8203 dude what.. even if Todd makes these games singlehandedly (which he doesn't) wtf are you doing wishing death on him?

    • @kmstirpitz4285
      @kmstirpitz4285 5 месяцев назад +55

      ​@@metetural9140
      That fact that his comment has likes suggesting murder is beyond baffling to me.

    • @stellarzoneproductions
      @stellarzoneproductions 5 месяцев назад +6

      hey it's the Weezer guy

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 5 месяцев назад +31

    I liked the ghoul fumbling his reload of the lever action in the filly fight in the midst of wrecking everyone else

    • @LN997-i8x
      @LN997-i8x 5 месяцев назад +6

      You mean the part where he pulls a cartridge from his bandolier, goes to put into the rifle, and then realizes part way through that the prop is way too big for the loading gate? They should have done a second take.

    • @Reaper_777-wc7yo
      @Reaper_777-wc7yo Месяц назад

      @kw9849 Yeah it turns out people in Hollywood don’t know much about guns.

  • @bluemooninthedaylight8073
    @bluemooninthedaylight8073 5 месяцев назад +171

    If possible, maybe do a conversation on your channel with Brian Fargo? You could talk about the past, views on games, and how there's nothing in regards to a beef. Honestly, it would be cool just to see you two discuss aspects of RPGs and why you both felt compelled to make ones based on a nuclear wasteland.

    • @Valkbg
      @Valkbg 5 месяцев назад +12

      I would love to see that. They have different viewpoints so it will be a great discussion.

    • @player1_fanatic
      @player1_fanatic 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, please this.

    • @SEVENTEENPOINT1
      @SEVENTEENPOINT1 5 месяцев назад +1

      I am interested in what people think the beef would be with the two of them. From my knowledge they just went their own separate ways.

    • @bluemooninthedaylight8073
      @bluemooninthedaylight8073 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@SEVENTEENPOINT1 People really read way too much into things, believing that people are either enemies or the best of friends.

    • @mikedoe525
      @mikedoe525 5 месяцев назад +1

      Would be extremely cool

  • @joeisip12
    @joeisip12 5 месяцев назад +392

    Tim, you don't know me and I never had the chance to work with you. I did get to pitch Fallout to Bethesda before Interplay ended (of course, they already knew what they were going to do and only listened to this know-nothing "producer" to show face - and I appreciated that). I did work with the Black Isle guys and kept contact for a bit... Anyway, I loved the show and have an incredible amount of respect and admiration for what you all did. The fact that many, who never have (and never will) played the games, get to appreciate the world is fantastic. Thank you for creating an IP that was/is truly unique, entertaining, and that provided a lot of work for some of us to remember fondly. I am happy to see that the show is a success and hope that it will mean good things for you, Chris, Brian, and so many of the other talented people associated with Fallout.

    • @alikeremozfidan288
      @alikeremozfidan288 5 месяцев назад +9

      yeah, in here, people who ever heard of fallout, yet alone playing it, is very very little. and what i saw? it was an ad for fallout show on everywhere. imagine bethesda manages to make a new fanbase from a new country

    • @ZiddersRooFurry
      @ZiddersRooFurry 5 месяцев назад +14

      Hey, Joe. Thanks for the QA work on the Baldur's Gate ARPG's. They're still some of my favorite games ever. Lionheart was awesome, too.

    • @joeisip12
      @joeisip12 5 месяцев назад

      @@ZiddersRooFurry Lionheart...lol!

    • @durrvish8376
      @durrvish8376 5 месяцев назад +1

      Was interplay going to get funded by Bethesda for another fallout or something originally?

    • @The_Joestar
      @The_Joestar 5 месяцев назад

      I've heard of grandma's who got to see the show because of their (grand)kids and loving it. And all those 'oldies' mention the excessive gore but still love it all the same 😂

  • @dasdestomic1636
    @dasdestomic1636 5 месяцев назад +24

    Hearing you tell this story really brings to light how important of an impact you made to not just Bethesda, but to the world as a whole. Was a very honorable thing for Todd to invite the original founding fathers of the franchise to this event and others. We as fans of your work are so happy to hear that they are keeping the spirit alive!

  • @whenisdinner2137
    @whenisdinner2137 5 месяцев назад +255

    Oscar ain't too far off from a mr handy 😂

    • @harrisonfnord5871
      @harrisonfnord5871 5 месяцев назад +14

      This anecdote will be even funnier further into the show

    • @olliepwnsall
      @olliepwnsall 5 месяцев назад +7

      Plot twist: there are multiple robots called Oscar and they can't actually use the elevator xD

    • @RedSntDK
      @RedSntDK 5 месяцев назад +4

      If only all robots were voiced by Matt Berry 😍

  • @crankyknuckles1849
    @crankyknuckles1849 5 месяцев назад +381

    Walton Goggins did an AMAZING job as Cooper Howard. A lot of cool stuff in the series, but for me, he stands out. The way he walks, talks, and throws in dark humor and *cough* bullets at people's faces is both hilarious and at times slightly scary. Howard is the type of guy you don't really want to have around you, but at the same time, you know he is the type of guy that you would want to have around you when the shit hits the fan. His backstory is also interesting and his synergy with Lucy MacLean played by Ella Purnell was brilliant. I didn't like Lucy MacLean when she was inside the vault, but just as you as a Fallout character slowly realize what life is all about in the wasteland, she also evolves into someone with a bit more grit and rust.

    • @volodymyrbilyk555
      @volodymyrbilyk555 5 месяцев назад +40

      Goggins is GOAT, legit one of the greatest character actors of his generation

    • @_itsallahoax
      @_itsallahoax 5 месяцев назад +16

      He is a great actor. I was afraid he was going to fall victim to type casting after The Shield. He had a few jacked up roles.

    • @wolfenrichtophen6010
      @wolfenrichtophen6010 5 месяцев назад +9

      Out of all the characters I would happily travel with Cooper Howard. Plus he'd probably get annoyed at all the holo-videos I gather about westerns, and talk westerns, or correct my knowledge.

    • @Buzzerker_1775
      @Buzzerker_1775 5 месяцев назад +5

      I love Goggins' work and he was the reason I decided to give the show a chance. Truth be told, I'm a Fallout Purist and a Bethesda Hater, but the show is pretty cool so far

    • @SimpleGeekReviews
      @SimpleGeekReviews 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@_itsallahoax Lol, go watch him in Sons of Anarchy. Trans escort. Like full stop. Tragic story too. His performance works so well in it.

  • @gilgamecha
    @gilgamecha 5 месяцев назад +31

    I also spotted the loser villager and agree it was a pure homage to Fallout 1.

  • @evoltaocao5078
    @evoltaocao5078 5 месяцев назад +221

    Have you seen the fan made series, from years ago, Nuka Break? It has millions of views and the creators just picked it up again(after the first company pulled a fast one and ended things).

    • @ashleywilliams4896
      @ashleywilliams4896 5 месяцев назад +22

      Wait you mean the original team have it again? Gotta go look this up

    • @evoltaocao5078
      @evoltaocao5078 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@ashleywilliams4896 i don't think they have it. i meant picked up making a fallout series.

    • @MrGrim-ib4ix
      @MrGrim-ib4ix 5 месяцев назад +108

      Tim was in it!

    • @evoltaocao5078
      @evoltaocao5078 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@MrGrim-ib4ix lol cool. i've just watched a couple of episodes.

    • @volodymyrbilyk555
      @volodymyrbilyk555 5 месяцев назад +25

      Nuka Break was special. Can't believe it's been so long ago. Time flies

  • @CreatorsstudioUK
    @CreatorsstudioUK 5 месяцев назад +168

    I can't thank you enough, because without you, Fallout wouldn't exist, so thank you!

  • @dwestman62
    @dwestman62 5 месяцев назад +51

    It has to be amazing to see your original creativity come to life on the big screen. Who would have thought those many years ago when you were gathering friends to make a game, that it would lead to this? You just never know how far and wide your art will travel once you release it into the world. You released Fallout from the vault of your mind and here we are! Thank you for being you and sharing your talents!

  • @robertomartins1329
    @robertomartins1329 5 месяцев назад +7

    Boy I'm happy Fallout came this far to even get a series.

  • @NOGRDA
    @NOGRDA 5 месяцев назад +21

    Hey Tim, I'm 21 years old and have been playing your games since the 5th grade. Thank you for your hard work creating my childhood

  • @GHOSTRIDER373737
    @GHOSTRIDER373737 5 месяцев назад +53

    Pretty awesome that Todd Howard invited you for all these major Fallout events!

  • @WillyMacShow
    @WillyMacShow 5 месяцев назад +15

    Hey Timothy. I just played Fallout for the first time and decided to start with your first game! What an amazing and fun experience. Seriously fantastic and holds up perfectly. Can't say enough about it. Much love and thank you to you and your team.

  • @BrenJeebus
    @BrenJeebus 5 месяцев назад +24

    I couldn't help but smile listening to this. So wholesome to hear your positive impressions and all the little stories from the premiere. Especially glad to hear the writer is a fan of every fallout. Also really appreciate your soft pushback towards some of the more combative fans - I know its out of passion but the toxicity often bums me out.
    ALSO HOLY CRAP YOUR DEV STORIES MAKE MY DEV LUNCHES BETTER EVERYDAY - please know that we love them so much.

  • @spectre.garden
    @spectre.garden 5 месяцев назад +18

    I enjoy stories about people working out past situations like this. Also, congrats on being a part of something like this.

  • @JuegosAlDetalle
    @JuegosAlDetalle 5 месяцев назад +1

    That picture along with Brian, Todd and Emil is such a gem. It makes me wish for so many things!

  • @Retro-Calico
    @Retro-Calico 5 месяцев назад +17

    Plot twist: Oscar the vacuum is a Vault-Tec invention used for monitoring the hotel customers for research purposes 😨

  • @aonaran7571
    @aonaran7571 5 месяцев назад +12

    You're a gem. Thank you so much for the years of joy your work has brought me since 1996. Couldn't be happier to have stumbled upon this channel!

  • @lukeb247
    @lukeb247 5 месяцев назад +3

    Your story about people remembering things differently but neither being wrong is something I've learned over the years

  • @scientistforscience
    @scientistforscience 5 месяцев назад +6

    The early development of Fallout is one of my favorite topics. Very, very happy and grateful to hear your stories. You know those Director/Producer commentary DVDs on great films? That's my jam. As a dedicated gamer I wish we had that. Your channel is providing that story. A very precious part of our collective history. Thank you.

  • @Wade.K.Savage
    @Wade.K.Savage 5 месяцев назад +3

    Your development stories and anecdotes are the best part of your channel! Always informative and inspiring!

  • @adammoynihan2589
    @adammoynihan2589 5 месяцев назад +30

    I'm pleasantly surprised to hear you talk about this.

  • @artofwar420
    @artofwar420 5 месяцев назад +12

    Oh brother, I freaking love your dev stories. What a treat to have (not trying to inflate your ego) an icon of game development so available to share wisdom. I used to read your name in wikis and always wondered what kind of a man Tim is, glad to get a glimpse into that.

  • @beastialmoon2327
    @beastialmoon2327 5 месяцев назад +2

    On the "development stores are boring" mention at the start:
    I JUST found your channel today, and I'm really excited to go through your backlog of videos. I love hearing people gush about their experiences and their hobbies, their work and craft. Mix that with one of my favorite games and I just can't wait.
    If you see a slow and steady uptick in all your videos 1 by 1, that's me :)

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 5 месяцев назад +21

    Tim, I don't know what the phenomenon's name is, but when you get for example dogs interacting across a fence, or at the end of leashes, it's vitriolic, almost violent. When you remove the barrier, dogs will start interacting socially. It's the same for people.

    • @Digolgrin
      @Digolgrin 5 месяцев назад +3

      I believe it's actually called 'barrier frustration.' My dog has the same sorta thing, he'll bark at anything outside the glass door, but when he's on a walk he's nothing but friendly--at least with humans.

  • @joshuatealeaves
    @joshuatealeaves 5 месяцев назад +187

    You touched on it a few times on how dehumanizing gaming fans can be. I think it’s a really serious issue that doesn’t get addressed enough. Glad you had fun 🙏🏻

    • @june.bourque
      @june.bourque 5 месяцев назад +22

      if i cant de-humanize them how will i turn them to jelly?

    • @redbearmedia
      @redbearmedia 5 месяцев назад +18

      @@june.bourquea crit from a plasma rifle should help!

    • @joshuatealeaves
      @joshuatealeaves 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@june.bourque Mmm, jelly 🤤

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 5 месяцев назад +1

      Welcome to the internet

    • @flynnoflenniken7402
      @flynnoflenniken7402 5 месяцев назад +31

      It's not specific to gaming fans; it's fans of anything. Take Star Wars for example with how fans treated the Jar Jar actor or child Anakin. Or how Star Trek fans treated the Wesley Crusher actor. Or sports fans. Every fandom has its share of assholes. It's an inevitability. By all means though, assholes should be called out and shamed for being assholes, but there needs to be an understanding that the assholes are a vocal minority and not representative of a fandom at large, and as a fandom grows larger and larger, a splinter fandom of bitter assholes are going to appear and grow alongside it without fail.

  • @gulyas2817
    @gulyas2817 Месяц назад +5

    Tim, I sincerely hope you read this. I have immense respect for you as both a human being and an artist, for all the work you’ve done and continue to do. However, I feel that there is often a narrative, not just in this particular video of yours, but across the board, that we should refrain from any critical thinking and consume media in a mindless way. The idea that we should accept anything that’s shoved down our throats without questioning it, whether politically, socially, or artistically, is troubling. I absolutely agree that taking things personally, harassing people, stalking, or engaging in other unhealthy behaviors is abhorrent and criminal. But that doesn’t take away the right of those who consume media to critique it as it should be.
    First, it’s inevitable that we absorb into our personal aesthetics the worlds and cultures we consume; they become part of us and often align with our principles. I believe that, like me, many old-school Fallout fans see in those earlier games something far beyond a mere product, a narrative that made us think, grow, and share these principles in a meaningful way.
    Is it really so hard to understand that the disdain is not just for Bethesda, but for other corporations as well, due to the fact that the quality is absurdly inferior in this regard? Can’t we be critical of companies that acquire works solely for profit, creating empty, superficial products that try to win you over with the absurd and the flashy, without developing plot, character, or ideas? Just look at Obsidian itself and why it is much more beloved than other companies, look at what you built with New Vegas.
    It seems to me that the stance people in the industry take is to avoid standing up and exposing the truth because they’re afraid of dealing with a tarnished reputation, of being blacklisted by some executive or shareholder, and never being able to work in this industry again. It's a fear of ruthless capitalism and of invalidating any professional with a simple piece of paper or order. This, I can understand, because at the end of the day, we, who are proletarians, mere workers, are one job loss away from poverty, and our survival comes first.
    Perhaps it's because I’m not an US American, that I’m highly critical of your culture, very much so. Not just because of the imperialist stance in practically everything you guys produce, but also because of the selfish and egocentric position where everything in the world and on the internet revolves around you, it’s exhausting. I see a tremendous difficulty among people in recognizing how American media, in general, is in decline compared to the 2000s and earlier, when, despite always having blockbuster and instant-consumption works, there was still depth in mainstream performances that sought to be individual, complete works, not this madness of franchising everything you produce.
    In this context, what Fallout represents today is an asset, a franchise, a cash cow to be milked for as much money as possible until it runs dry. I respect all the professionals who work within a company doing what they love and believe in, but I refuse to use the term "admiration" for people who distort a concept and strive to use it solely for monetary gain.
    The point I want to make here is that we are critical not because we hate person X or Y, or because they made a game we love differently, but because it’s the result of a dumbing down of a medium solely in pursuit of money. How can an indie developer in the middle of Russia understand fallout's work better than a multibillion-dollar company with thousands of employees, a company that doesn’t even respect the player enough to fix the millions of bugs and errors in a game? There is simply no logical justification for this to happen.
    Liking the Fallout TV series is great; we have the free will to consume and enjoy whatever we want, and no one should be criticized just for consuming something. But to be a mediocre person who consumes and replicates the narrative without even questioning what is happening in the world? That’s something I will never respect.

    • @CainOnGames
      @CainOnGames  Месяц назад +2

      I don’t know what I’ve said to imply you cannot critique games or any other media. I have not said that, implied it, or even suggested it.
      I have said that no one should launch personal attacks against the creators. Or demand that because they don’t like a game, no one else should either, by implying that their opinion is absolute objective truth. But that’s it.
      If you hate a game, fine. Hate an industry or its practices, ok. You can even hate the entire society it’s based in. Just don’t make it personal.

    • @gulyas2817
      @gulyas2817 Месяц назад

      @@CainOnGamesThank you for taking the time to respond to me, Tim. And yes, I agree with you 100%. Foundations of social etiquette and ethics should never be crossed due to dialectical conflict, and people's safety must always be preserved. But just to hammer home the point, it's not about hate, but rather about dissatisfaction with the aggressive and monetary practices of an industry that doesn't care about the public or the content it produces.

  • @ColinMakesAllTheThings
    @ColinMakesAllTheThings 5 месяцев назад +7

    Your generosity to appreciate what people have done with your ideas is a thing of beauty.

    • @cleverman383
      @cleverman383 5 месяцев назад

      Especially when they retcon most of his work, and he still appreciates it!

    • @Gambit0590
      @Gambit0590 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@cleverman383except, they didn't

  • @Vihtori_Lettunen
    @Vihtori_Lettunen 5 месяцев назад +8

    I can relate to you wanting to watch this again and it happened to me also, just admiring the props and set without concentrating to plot at all. I was just in awe because I'm such a fanboy of the game series since the first installment. Also the "loser villager" thing makes perfect sense now that you pointed it out. Great video! 👍

  • @Everl997
    @Everl997 5 месяцев назад +4

    mad respect to Todd and all of Bethesda for keeping you a part of all this knowing its your lovechild and its just as important to you to see the fallout IP flourish. I think people feel disconnected from the creators when they reach a certain level of success but the fact they keep you in the loop is a testament to how much they love and respect your teams work and their own. it clearly is a product of passion and it really shows on the big screen. Ill always treasure the work you all put in as creatives even when things dont turn out, and i think another indicator of that is the homages they pay to obsidians new vegas. Its clear to me fallout means more to you and them then just who is creating what and is more of love for the franchise as a whole cheers for the insight Tim.

    • @LeoStaley
      @LeoStaley 5 месяцев назад +1

      Didn't invite anybody who worked on New Vegas though, lol

  • @rayvn03
    @rayvn03 5 месяцев назад +7

    Hi, Tim! Longtime Fallout fan (my long-since ex boyfriend turned me onto the series back in 1997). I was telling my son that the game gave serious Fallout and Fallout 2 vibes, especially with Filly and the box labeled 'Jim's Limbs' XD

  • @jackamope654
    @jackamope654 5 месяцев назад +8

    Hey Tim, I have been having a blast listening and watching all of your videos, especially the development insight. It really makes me appreciate your work and the work of so many other game devs so much more. Love what you do, keep it up!

  • @scorpiosystem8082
    @scorpiosystem8082 4 месяца назад +1

    "In-n-fallOUT burger" goddd that's so funny

  • @daemonofdecay
    @daemonofdecay 5 месяцев назад +67

    “You guys can be really destructive, which is odd that you do it to people who are trying to make things.”
    Wise words.
    If there is one downside to being invested in gaming, it’s that a lot of gamers have a very negative and aggressive approach to content and creators. It can lead to pointless conflict.

    • @HateMachine103190
      @HateMachine103190 5 месяцев назад +26

      That's modern fandom in general really. For one, we have this entitled sense of ownership over things we like, and two, we have an access to famous people now that we never had before. So that sense of entitlement starts to become toxic in that we start throwing our opinions around like they should have weight (and throw tantrums when we realize they don't) and we also start to talk to complete strangers like we know them personally and have a right to weigh in on their personal business.
      People really need to step back and get some perspective.

    • @cleverman383
      @cleverman383 5 месяцев назад +1

      So we're not allowed to complain about products that we purchase now?
      Wait... I know what you are!
      Chinese Communist detected!

    • @Gambit0590
      @Gambit0590 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@cleverman383give me the exact type of dumbass The Fallout mocks

    • @orion3253
      @orion3253 3 месяца назад

      @@HateMachine103190 Us fans have in fact been toxic as early as the Flavian Amphitheater's heyday, and probably hit our stride during the Mesoamerican ballgame's peak.

  • @Seth0067
    @Seth0067 5 месяцев назад +26

    This is great - was thinking of you while watching and wondering what you thought. My favorite line: "Nobody noticed... but I knew it was there." Much love.

  • @celladoor_uk
    @celladoor_uk 5 месяцев назад +5

    Btw, your development stories are priceless. It's just that it is the kind of niche content that will be enjoyed slowly by your audience, over years and years to come, as it never ever loses value to the fanbase and there will always be new fans of fallout, eager to learn more aboiut it's origins.

  • @nomoremrniceguy8828
    @nomoremrniceguy8828 5 месяцев назад +23

    Hello Tim,
    I was not one of those who asked you to talk about the series, nor was I one who was going to pay attention to this series (for all obvious reasons).
    After watching your video, I decided to watch the series too - you are to blame for this.
    Thank you for the interesting story, you are a good storyteller)

  • @anihyrelles6870
    @anihyrelles6870 5 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for this video. I'm not a game dev but a Fallout fan, and the amount of infighting among fans has been absurd. The show is super cool, I LOVE how much was used for practical effects

  • @jack.soncalo
    @jack.soncalo 5 месяцев назад +2

    It’s gotta be insane seeing your stories adapted to film!!

  • @andrewpowell4184
    @andrewpowell4184 5 месяцев назад +11

    From start to finish I loved the TV Show. The way they teased a 2nd season just has me stoked

  • @yamasaa
    @yamasaa 5 месяцев назад +41

    Was looking forward to this after seeing that picture of you, Brian, Emil and Todd !

  • @anarchrex2237
    @anarchrex2237 5 месяцев назад +1

    Fallout overall has meant so much to my life and all of this joy and passion surrounding it rn truly brings tears to my eyes. The show absolutely does the universe justice, and i am thrilled to see where it goes carrying forward. I mean it when i say thank you Tim for your part in delivering this gift, and your continued enthusiasm in sharing it!!!

  • @capn_capacitor
    @capn_capacitor 5 месяцев назад +3

    So glad to hear you enjoyed the first two episodes and got to go to the premiere!
    Also glad you were able to connect with Brian Fargo and just chat about the old days. It’s not worth holding onto grudges forever. Great video, Tim!

  • @TheOneBearded
    @TheOneBearded 5 месяцев назад +29

    Only on ep 4, but it really does feel like it was made by people who "get" the setting - humor and all. Like Tim said, it doesn't feel like it was made by a fan of one game but of Fallout in general. Love to see it.

    • @balsalmalberto8086
      @balsalmalberto8086 5 месяцев назад +4

      It gets better after episode 1? I mean, If the original creative behind it likes it, maybe I should give it a second chance, some of favorites aren't always instant. I was hoping for a darker tone. less deux ex machina good at everything action hero bullshit and more realism, more character development, complex characters with ambiguous morality and spice it up with some dark humor like Obsidians fallout....

    • @TheOneBearded
      @TheOneBearded 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@balsalmalberto8086 A review I saw said the first four episodes were slow then things really ramped up. So far, I agree. But there's a lot of cool things being built up. So it's a slow with a purpose so far. Really good. Surprisingly good.

    • @arbitrary_thoughts
      @arbitrary_thoughts 5 месяцев назад +2

      Hard to realistically judge a show if you have watched only one episode, especially since character development and depth usually occurs/is revealed over the span of the series.

    • @txdmsk
      @txdmsk 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@balsalmalberto8086
      I watched the first 3 eps so far. Yes, the main character is a diversity hire, ESG score booster, but EP2 and EP3 are both better, and have a LOT of that dark humour. Not much character development though, as they decided to go with 3-ish main characters who barely interact in the first 3 eps. So so far they are basically telling 3 stories that start to intertwine.
      I'm curious if they manage to put in character development if they get to do multiple seasons.
      Vault 33 was designed to create people with the specific morality shown in EP1 for a reason that will be revealed in later episodes. It is well written.

    • @brewdaly1873
      @brewdaly1873 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@txdmskdiversity hire? That's bs, she's fantastic.

  • @tomhooper6147
    @tomhooper6147 5 месяцев назад +2

    your videos are always wonderfully insightful but something that always strikes me above else is your kindness ❤

  • @turdfurgeson8769
    @turdfurgeson8769 5 месяцев назад +22

    Don't comment often, but I enjoy your development stories and tips. You're a legend and thank you for the years of happiness the fallout series has given me. You rock.

  • @Nicolas-uu3jr
    @Nicolas-uu3jr 5 месяцев назад +3

    you might be the nicest person that I've seen for a while..., thanks, for everything 🙂

  • @AvrengostGames
    @AvrengostGames 5 месяцев назад +2

    Not TV series-related, but I wanted to say this because you mentioned it: I recently started making video games reviews, and your entire channel for me is like a deep dive into understanding a lot of what happens behind the scenes. I feel I'm getting a higher "professionality" just listening to you. I always want to learn and improve, so keep up the good work, Tim. You are actually teaching to a broader audience right now.
    I'm also old enough to remember the first Fallout, actually one of my first games ever was "The Lord of the Rings Vol. I" from Interplay. The memories.

  • @darren3627
    @darren3627 5 месяцев назад +2

    It must be so surreal to stay in a hotel with an early version of a Mr Handy and be at the Hollywood premiere based on a game you made in the 90s. Tim from the 90s would never believe this is how Fallout pans out. I smiled ear to ear for this whole video, so gld they invited you and recognized your achievement.
    Also, I am one of the few who really enjoy those dev videos, you could pretty much talk about anything and I’d watch it.

  • @zeusapollo6504
    @zeusapollo6504 5 месяцев назад +4

    Thats quite the reunion. Good to hear, the older Fallout games were considered in this show.

  • @ItsGreenHerring
    @ItsGreenHerring 2 месяца назад +3

    Tim should make a cameo in Season 2.

  • @sthompson12132
    @sthompson12132 5 месяцев назад +1

    this video popped up on my recommended and having just watched the show and never played the games i’m still in the mode of excitement at any discussion of this universe that i’m growing to love. halfway through listening i pulled up the wikipedia page for the show to read about its creators. had no idea this universe started in your head. i was wondering why you were offered a ticket to the premiere 😂. thank you for your creativity and i look forward to playing the games now!

  • @lazyhatman
    @lazyhatman 5 месяцев назад +4

    One thing that is cool is that they made the fallout 1 and 2 interplay intro in the tv show

  • @zachcooper6236
    @zachcooper6236 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'd love to hear your thoughts after you've seen the rest of the season. Especially how they handle the actions of big companies and Shady Sands, as those points have been the cause of some contention in areas of the comunity.

    • @Gambit0590
      @Gambit0590 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's more like people's misconceptions have caused the contention

  • @Fauxvale
    @Fauxvale 5 месяцев назад +1

    Admittedly I haven't watched all of your videos, but watching this one felt like talking to an old friend. Loved it. Keep being awesome, Tim

  • @Nurolight
    @Nurolight 5 месяцев назад +6

    Don't listen to them, Tim! I want more Fallout stories.
    Specifically, I'd love to know more about the Clay Heads.
    Why were they done this way?
    Who made them?
    Any behind-the-scenes photos of them?
    Was animating them easier or harder?
    Where are they now?

  • @XrosstheRubicon
    @XrosstheRubicon 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tim, thanks for the video. Felt like I was there and always enjoy how much of a natural storyteller you are. And completely agree with your message of empathizing with the people behind the art we love rather than just consuming it and tearing people down.

  • @TeddylsALiar
    @TeddylsALiar 5 месяцев назад +5

    I'd love to see a follow up after you finish watching it all

  • @Seb_Falkor
    @Seb_Falkor 5 месяцев назад +13

    Binged the whole show with my wife (who knew nothing about Fallout) and we both loved it. I never thought a live action adaptation could be so accurate at really game-y stuff. I was already in a bit of a Fallout mood already, but I'm replaying everything again. I hope more games can get an adaptation at this level

  • @miriamfahim9899
    @miriamfahim9899 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tim I LOVE your development stories. I watch every single one of your videos. As an aspiring developer you are the only channel that i have found really great advice and insight and it has been so so invaluable for me.

  • @trocotr0
    @trocotr0 5 месяцев назад +4

    Btw, now that ive seen the 6th episode... What the HECK happened with Shady Sands and Boneyard? Name interchange?? Confusion of the highest orda!

  • @Bakamoichigei
    @Bakamoichigei 5 месяцев назад +7

    I'm about to start ep 7. Everything about it captures the essence of the Fallout games. Not just thematically or aesthetically; it's clear they _get_ it, on a fundamental level.
    The show doesn't feel "based on" or "inspired by" the games, it feels like it's simply _in_ that universe. To the point that it's triggering memories of New Vegas and Fallout 4, but my brain is starting to have trouble recalling those _as_ video games.

  • @Willpolita
    @Willpolita 5 месяцев назад +1

    i Tim, well, just being here already says how much I love Fallout.
    Thank you for creating it, it must be amazing to see something you helped create back then turning into a TV show for thousands of people. Even being just a consumer myself, I found it incredible. I also found myself looking at the background and products several times instead of reading the subtitles, kkkk.
    The series is amazing, above average.

  • @jebus56162
    @jebus56162 5 месяцев назад +57

    I was blown away by the show. Totally exceeded my expectations, can't wait for season 2 with the ending we got.

    • @fredrik3880
      @fredrik3880 5 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah was cool stuff. But id rather none of it be canon, as fan fiction it was good.

    • @creatorsfreedom6734
      @creatorsfreedom6734 5 месяцев назад +1

      it's has stuff that is missing like super mutant's , stop sugar coating it

    • @Nightshade31401
      @Nightshade31401 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@creatorsfreedom6734 It was the first season? Do you really expect them just to drop everything within 6 episodes? lol.

    • @creatorsfreedom6734
      @creatorsfreedom6734 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nightshade31401 so it was too much to see any bloat fly's or radiated dog's ?

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 5 месяцев назад +8

      Oh, come ON. Just because it didn't have something YOU wanted in there doesn't mean people who liked it are "sugar-coating" it.
      Get some perspective.

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 5 месяцев назад +23

    I hope the show has a gag, or in the 2nd season has a gag, where Todd Howard cameos as a pipegun salesman and when a customer asks how well they're built he says "don't worry, they just work" as a nod to a famous Todd Howard quote.
    Similarly I'd love a gag where a character buys some bobby pins and they're sold by weight so the bobby pins are put on an electronic scale and they measure as weighing several pounds despite being only a handful of pins, so the merchant gives the scale a whack and the measure corrects itself. This a joke on how throughout the Bethesda Fallout games bobby pins often have a much bigger weight than they should to the point someone mailed Todd Howard a box of bobby pins with a note saying "weigh these".

  • @gimpyrules6714
    @gimpyrules6714 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Walmart I work through has an auto scrubber and they call it Betty, used to have the name tag too

  • @MykiiMescal
    @MykiiMescal 5 месяцев назад +4

    i think todd howard is a fan of fallout and it’s weird that other fallout fans pretend he’s not

    • @Jamsaladd
      @Jamsaladd 2 месяца назад

      todd gets a lot of undue shit. but hes clearly very passionate about making games and loves fallout

  • @EnclaveAgent
    @EnclaveAgent 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your game dev stories are amazing, thank you so much for creating Fallout and giving us all such an awesome world to play in!

  • @magicoddball1452
    @magicoddball1452 5 месяцев назад +18

    Shady Sands is in the city now? Wasn’t it super far away from LA?

    • @Thagomizer
      @Thagomizer 5 месяцев назад +16

      There's no sense of geography in the show.

    • @THEEJONESY
      @THEEJONESY 5 месяцев назад +7

      no geological sense

    • @butchdeloria2995
      @butchdeloria2995 5 месяцев назад

      i mean to be fair we dont know for sure if there were buildings in the distance of it or not , Vault 13 is close so we can assume it was probably a populated area before the bombs dropped

    • @cleverman383
      @cleverman383 5 месяцев назад +2

      "I'm not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls" - Pete Hines

    • @benedeknagy8497
      @benedeknagy8497 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah, its like 400km to the north from LA. San Francisco and Mariposa (military base) are directly to the west from Vault 13 and Shady Sands.

  • @tyronewifestealer2385
    @tyronewifestealer2385 5 месяцев назад +3

    I'm so glad you liked the show! It's so cool that you and brian were invited.

  • @raajaa559
    @raajaa559 5 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who has watched a ton of your videos. I love your dev/design videos. Keep it up!

  • @zc8673
    @zc8673 5 месяцев назад +5

    Please just know that the people sending hate to other developers are not the same people who really call themselves fans of you and those developers

  • @GustavoBrunogustavobrp
    @GustavoBrunogustavobrp 5 месяцев назад +2

    Just want to say that I love the development stories, and I'm very happy that the show is great! You helped build something incredible!

  • @Creamcups
    @Creamcups 5 месяцев назад +18

    I fear that Tim's plea for Fallout "fans" to tone down their vitriol will fall on deaf ears. Seeing people come up with outlandish conspiracy theories like how Todd Howard personally got the showrunners to destroy every bit of New Vegas lore because he hates how it's so much more succesful than Bethesda's output is just ridiculous.

    • @veduci22
      @veduci22 5 месяцев назад +5

      Fallout still has some fans left? Do you think anyone still cares about the lore of the Fallout universe?

    • @suspectedcrab
      @suspectedcrab 5 месяцев назад +6

      76 has several NV references, but only people who take the time to explore will find it, just like anything else outside the main story and side quests in any Fallout game. NV fanboys are just as bad as Bethesda fanboys. There are plenty of Bethesda fanboys who thought 76 was shit yet somehow think 4 is the best game in the series with simplified RPG mechanics like a minimalistic dialogue wheel and voiced protagonist. 76's exploration and enviromental storytelling alone blows it out of the water. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 5 месяцев назад +2

      You're unfortunately correct. As is a lot of the time when people are confronted with people who don't share their opinion it's "oh they're a shill then". The idea that somebody actually having a different opinion to them is so foreign to them they must be paid off or being held hostage etc.

    • @ethansnyder3401
      @ethansnyder3401 5 месяцев назад +5

      Okay but he has endorsed the show fully as canon. It is harmful based on the location and setting to Fallouts he did not create.
      Even if he did not set out to do anything malicious the end result is what it is. You can say people take it too seriously and borderline on harassment but there are problems and ethical concerns and people are well within their rights to criticize them

    • @Gambit0590
      @Gambit0590 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@ethansnyder3401touch grass

  • @youngcorcs9189
    @youngcorcs9189 5 месяцев назад +2

    incredible insight, and none of this would of existed without you! You're the man!

  • @BasedBebs
    @BasedBebs 5 месяцев назад +4

    I really enjoy the recount stories, thanks for sharing Tim!

  • @zacharystephens174
    @zacharystephens174 5 месяцев назад +1

    You remind me so much of my neighbor! You seem like such a genuine dude

  • @nategunn9474
    @nategunn9474 5 месяцев назад +6

    What’s your view on there timeline with shady sands and new Vegas??

    • @Gambit0590
      @Gambit0590 5 месяцев назад +2

      My guess would be the bomb dropped sometime in the early to mid 2280 s

    • @nategunn9474
      @nategunn9474 5 месяцев назад

      @@Gambit0590 I’d argree and make more sense I’d assume 77 was just the NCR president slowly screwed up overtime until the bomb near 2281

    • @DevineDumbass
      @DevineDumbass 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Fang1241 but maximus was a little kid when shady sands got bombed and the show takes place in 2296.
      Plus where is the rest of the infrastructure the NCR built over the last 100 years? Only shady sands got nuked but for some reason everything the NCR built is gone and everyone is living in trash huts like it's the east coast

    • @Gambit0590
      @Gambit0590 5 месяцев назад

      @@DevineDumbass add a Maximus look to be about seven or eight in the flashbacks