How LOUD's Ascent Comp Works Without Sentinels
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
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the thing i find funny is that saad and sacy created the "default" ascend comp too
One of the huge reasons LOUD has stayed relevant since the beginning!
they didnt create it, they took it from another brazillian team, as Saadhak has said in an interview long ago
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@@MaiconDouglas-cd8rj a comp n é deles, mas toda a gameplay q fez a comp ser o meta é definitivamente trabalho dos dois
apparently a tier 2/vct br team was using this comp, sacy tought it was really strong, and they (sacy and saad) improved the gameplan around this comp, they were the first team to use this comp in a match, so they were the ones to defined the meta.@@akbarfadhlillah3126
Huge props to LOUD, PRX and KC for breaking the Ascent meta and actually winning games on that map.
Tbh just LOUD and PRX, KC copied PRX old comp
Saadhak should be in the valorant hall of fame tbh
always love your analytical content and narrating style
Platoon try not to change your title in every video challenge
impossible...
I think that your analysis of pro games is the most in depth and concise I've seen from anyone (especially the theories and analysis on the igl's thought processes), keep up the good work!
Thinking man’s valorqnt is pretty good too
teets is great check him out maybe , and airen too , both have similar content . platoon is very underatted imo tho
Only Loud & Prx play completely different meta on Ascent prx harbor reyna last year & this year faide raze gekko even though it got stomp by genG ascent classic comp on grandfinal.
Monyet needs to pick up his game, bro’s impact and fragging just isn’t anywhere near Jinggg
I fucking love it when you upload man
Keep the statistics coming this is what I love
A super underrated point that u didnt mention is Loud back in 2022 made the default comp the best comp. when everyone else were trying comps and trying out strats with chamber they kept the same default comp and were unreal. now 2 years later they know exactly what made the default comp good because they were the ones who popularized it.
great vid man, do you plan on doing some videos on recent sentinels matches? particularly the one against LEV. Round 13 of split was a masterclass postplant, without util and numbers, and i think you could make great content out of stuff like that. Cheers
eu tava esperando por esse video, bom trabalho Platoon, sou um grande fã brasileiro e gosto muito do seu conteudo!!
4:51 Bro I never thought I would see a heat map for Valorant 😮
love your videos man
Insane content as always
another certified banger. fantastic thumbnail too ;)
Hey! Thanks for the suggestion! Made some changes related to what you said but was basically done at that point so did what I could haha. Hope you enjoyed :)
This video is actually so informative
Great vid man!
btw, at 10:48 you made a minor mistake of quoting "sentinels" instead of "LOUD"
Love the vid! I’m curious, the 70% same comp - is that those exact 5 agents or also the “replacement” agents such as cypher for killjoy or fade for sova?
Exactly those 5 agents! Pretty crazy for sure but if you just look at what teams are STILL playing on Ascent this year so far, not very surprising...
Exactly those 5 agents Nrg, sen, kru, furia, c9, & lev. Mibr & G2 use cypher 4 other agents still same EG not playing this map rn only Loud is different.
Funny moment in CN ascension when DRG, who played cypher literally the day before, swapped to KJ on the last day. They won the map.
@@konosuba350mibr used viper in that map too
i was waiting for this video hehehehe
Nice!
I feel like those contact plays really cost sentinels many round, also on split where the skye nerf took away much of the recon capabilities of skye especially as the solo initiator
its still a risky strategy if you ask me compare to the default one. the entire comp takes 3-2 people just to stall and control one site with their utilities and a sentinel agent can do that with 1/2 of the stall time and requires only one player and few resources,with the bet that the enemy doesnt know how to counter it ( in this case knowing sentinels are bad at controlling mid 4:48). best way to balance it, is just to have one sentinel replacing one initiator (in this case the kayo one) and you still got the immense flashes with omen,phoenix and breach, plus the info gathering one which replaces the kayo knife and plus the enhance ability to defend one site(replacing kayo molly).
I don't think I agree with you...kayo knife is a hard counter against solo sentinels holding site, that is an important aspect of this comp. Also, I don't think that this is too many flashes if you think about how Loud played these 2 ascents with this comp so far. They do not just passively hold sites (which would make sense with a sentinel), but they can actually delay the opponent by harassing them in different parts of the map, and then if eventually the opponent can take hold of a site the comp is also really heavy on retakes (which would be worse with a sentinel)...I think this comp is actually perfect for this playstyle
Kayo is believe it or not the strongest initiator they have. It can stop any rush faster than any sentinel can.. this strategy won’t work in ranked but in pro play they all know what to do
I think if loud get in madrid they will win their first masters finally, saadhak has a lot of things prepared. The boys have really wanted this title for a long time
"The Agent"
this is Valorant at the hightest level!!!
wake up babe, platoon just uploaded
(The Agent!)
I actually almost completely agree with Saadhak, Cypher is the only really great Senti, the rest can be useful, but I share his philosophy on options/flexibility, its how I would IGL
I love these videos with more gameplay and storytelling! Videos with a lot of statistics and graphics are a little boring to watch...
Haha I'll definitely keep making some more similar to this on top of some of the stats ones I've experimented with recently. Thanks for the feedback!
Can somebody tell me how to make a heat map like at 4:47 ? still don't know how to do it ://
When I do it manually I use plot.ly plotly.com/python/2d-histogram-contour/!
@@platoonval thanks a lot !
Now Loud just need to win against EG.
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hello
prx 🤝loud (not playing sentinels in ascent)
if loud plays this comp in ranked they are gonna get smacked
with the random rushes
wwait till they play vs prx
In ranked all u need is aim
short answer: Riot nerfed their good things to the ground for the others to be viable instead of buffing the weak things it the others kits
if they do what you said then it would just be a huge power creep
Skye being really strong is really unfair for other initiators
@@hushpuppy1735 she doesn’t even get picked on the majority of maps anymore 😭😭😭
@@meow2841she's the initiator with the highest pickrate globally still, she just isn't the clear best and necessary option. i like the changes, this meta is the most diverse since pre chamber
@@hushpuppy1735 skye was too strong because sova and fade were too nerfed after 2022 champs
10:48 Loud**
Woopse! Good catch 😅
I also hate sentinels, I feel like they're the type of agents that takes too much space. If you want to replace a sentinel, just replace it with initiator like kay o.
green fn
tldw: VIPER is OP rn
she always has been you just need to find good setups for her
missed clickbait opportunity smh
LOL I thought Sentinels the org
So this comp is kinda gimmicky no?
Loud are using loud pushes to win against Sentinels, bcs they have no sentinels in their comp. Nice
Naur
Yeah, we hate Sentinels...
Bullshit Sentinel Agents are the best. They can even be used as Initiator or Duellists.
Lol
Bro instalock kj
its only good in ranked, but in a high controlled enviroment like a vct match. sentinels are only at best at picking info and rarely they are effective through kill setup, especially at t1 matches.
I have never seen someone glaze Sentinels so hard lol. Let's see how they hold up against a good team NRG. They fo sure crap their pants against LOUD AND LOST 2-0.
well they still were the first pro team ever to lift a Valorant trophy so why not glaze
You didn't answer the question from your title, what a shameful bait. Disliked.
He didn't explicitly state the answer, but I thought it was pretty obvious from how he showed why Loud doesn't need sentinels and the pros of their comp without one.
ok buddy make sure to share this video with friends so they can dislike it and leave a comment too
He basically did, he explained why saadhak didint opt to use sentinels
It does not work