How the Celtics’ high IQ dominated the NBA Finals
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Ben Taylor of Thinking Basketball breaks down Coach Mazzulla’s analytical attention to detail and the smartest adjustments and counters Boston made en route to their 18th title.
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I heard a lot of comments about how the Celtics play "boring" basketball. But the bottom line is, it's only boring if the only thing you can focus on while watching the game is the ball itself, all the off-ball movement, defensive switches and sets, and manipulation of their opponent is like poetry in motion for real basketball fans.
Well put 👏🏾💚☘️
Yea I really don't get that. Good ass basketball is always fun to watch. I mean, just ask any Spurs fan and they'll tell you how beautiful a basketball possession can be. The Cs played some beautiful basketball this season, on both ends of the floor. Not every play has to end on a dunk or a block to be exciting.
It would only be boring cuz they keep blowing out their opponents, but still
It’s only boring if you focus on the score because they usually blow teams out
People used to say that about the Spurs. I guess people like ISO/ hero ball?
@@rossconklin7140 Well that's just it, if you're watching the ball it's exciting to see guys beat defenders one on one or make crazy stepbacks.
When people talk about playing Basketball the "Right Way" this is what they mean. 🍀
LeBron James.. perfect example..
@@rodericko9534I disagree completely. Lebron James is a top 2 player of all time, he is an incredible individual force. People should not look to him for how to play winning basketball because you simply aren’t as good lol, he played the right way because he was good enough to deserve the ball every single possession to make the right play.
The Celtics are a better example. Everyone sets screens, everyone moves off ball, everyone makes the extra pass to a better shot, everyone plays intense defense, that’s the right way. The Lebron teams are only the right way when you have the best player in the world lol.
Look at the mavs, Lukas career is scarily similar to Lebrons so far, yet they just lost a finals because they had to rely on him alone too much (JUST LIKE LEBRON). Meanwhile the Celtics just won a finals where JT didn’t shoot the ball well and KP was only healthy for 1.5 games. Because their whole team is like that.
@@eliyarrows2456 Yes as a team, the 2014 Spurs and This Celtics Team is a good example of winning, unselfish and team oriented basketball. As individuals, Lebron is the perfect example completely as he gets his team involved with his passing, on court coaching, defense and when needed, his own individual scoring. Yes i agree that high usage rate of a singular player is not a good thing as that means it's more load on the individual however it is a good thing when they have good role-players playing alongside them and it leads to success.
Lebron having a high usage rate is bad if that means the only player the opposing team defends is him, reminiscent of the 2007 finals. Lebron having a high usage rate is a good thing if he has the supporting cast to maintain it, take his championship teams for example which had Wade and Kyrie. If the example you're looking for is a low usage rate team player that plays the right way then that's roleplayers like Iguodala who make the right play and it won't show up on the box score. And we know well enough Lebron makes the right plays and if he was on this amazing and well built celtics superteam then he'd still play the right way the best.
yeah Auerbach would approve of the way they played this season. :D
@@rodericko9534get off your knees
Everyone talks about Jaylen browns iso defense on Luka, which obviously was fantastic and deserves all the praise, but I think we should also discuss how impactful Tatum’s defense was at taking away the impact of Daniel gafford, Derek lively, and pj Washington on offense due to limiting the roll and the lob. Truly a team wide defensive masterclass with a great coached system and a full 5 man unit executing to perfection.
It's not just Tatums defense. He was anchoring the entire offense. Without Tatum, guys like Brown don't get the open looks they were getting. Thats why Brown said he shares the MVP with Tatum, because he knows the deal.
Yeah Tatum is the unsung hero on our defense this post season run. He was the key piece to letting brown go 1 on 1 with luka how he did. If tatum wasnt on the bigs to prevent an easy switch, Jaylen wouldnt even have a chance to guard luka, cause they would just hunt KP and AL all game long and JB would never be the primary defender, Tatums defensive versatility is what opens the door for Brown to do what he does. Same thing in the Pacers series, game 1 tyrese and myles turner went off in the first half in the pick and roll. In game 2 we made the adjustment with Tatum on myles turner, and Haliburtion would pass out every time Tatum was his primary defender nullifying their best weapon on offense. Turner got into early foul trouble as a result and only had 9 at half, where in game 1 he had nearly 20 going into halftime.
@@America2Monacooh no another Tatum fan boy whose mad Brown got MVP! Tatum shot 38% from the field. Thats why he didn’t win MVP. Get a grip kid
@samuelk34 Only kid here is you for yet again thinking scoring is the only thing a player can do on offense. You want to see Brown in Tatums shoes? Go watch game 7 vs Miami last year. He shot 8-24 and had 8 turnovers.
@@America2Monaco Get down on your knees and give me 50! sorry your fav player didn't win mvp. He shot 38% from the field. He's a shot chucker. Tatum finals performances are one of the worst of all time.
There is a reason Brad kept Joe around during the changeover of front offices. They were on the same page both team building and strategy. One of the most well balanced teams in league history. Which is a blueprint for successful teams in the new CBA.
It's funny because Brad before the extensions I think that off-season after the Finals loss he was talking about some of the challenges and opportunities with the new or upcoming CBA changes and since then he's been by far the best executive in the league. I hope him and Joe grab a few and show the league they really were ahead of the game both business and basketball wise.
@@geordiejones5618 it was a one time opportunity. Be aggressive and get your team together before the new CBA. That's past so now everyone is playing by different rules.
@@goodisanounsurprised the Nuggets didn't use that time to make themselves into a bonafide dynasty. It kinda looks like they did what the Lakers did after 2020. Both of which are baffling, title teams that get worse despite great players because of terrible management. Gotta love Brad, loved him as our coach but he's the best exec in the league until outshined by someone else.
I can admit I was a Boston hater the whole season, but I have to give their props they were the most dominant team all year and they played perfect basketball, so my hats off to Boston
Thank you on behalf of Boston and all Celtics fans 💚☘️
Coaching is one thing all these TV analysts always seem to ignore. The Celtics SCHOOLED the Mavericks with their scheming, and yet the "experts" STILL couldn't explain why even if you showed them this video.
I was also surprised JKidd didn't take any blame. He didn't adjust to the regular season looks the Cs gave him. Celts ran many same plays successfully.
They keep asking "what happened to kyrie?!" While never once acknowledging what boston was doing to take him out.
It also has to be noted that this was boston's worst 5-game offensive/shooting stretch of the season (combined with KP being in & out). If boston were to shoot close to their average, this people would've witnessed the worst NBA finals in history (ratings-wise)
I was also impressed how Jaylen and Jrue and basically all of them positioned themselves on the court to cut off passing lanes and limit assists. They were basically like "Luka might get 40, but if we can get down his assist number and make him turn the ball over - we win". And they were right.
Those guys commenting that Tatum deserved the MVP equally as much as Jaylen, only watched the box score - Jaylen was instrumental to their gameplan and to generating turnovers. He also cut down on his turnovers after abysmal numbers last year vs. the Heat.
JJ redick said it on his channel somewhere after game 2, "mazzulla created a math problem for the mavs"
@@mrenga Another thing that Kidd is to blame for: He MIGHT have damaged his team's confidence and morale in Games 2 and 3 by saying that Brown was the Celtics' best player. Trying to use mind games on the other team basically says to your players, "I don't believe that you're capable of beating them if they're in sync. You're not good enough to beat them." That message was an underlying message of doubt for the Mavericks and inspiration for the Celtics.
Thank you for this one! Finally some credit to the Celtics coaching and tactics and as to why JT never went off to splash big points. It was a well-oiled machine that exploited other teams not by sheer talent but Joe Mazzulla outcoached everyone this year. A team sport master class where neither JT nor JB needed to have combined 80 point games.
Thinking Basketball on the NBA channel? Hell yeah! Great content hope to see more featuring like this.
Actually after watching half of this video I genuinely think that the Celtics deserved every bit of their wins. Fantastic defence and use of anaylitics. Scheming was fantastic
Congratulations Thinking Basketball! ❤ to watch your creation here in NBA...😊
It's good to know that NBA has recognized him
as soon as i heard that voice and vocal cadence i was like 'aw nuh-uh.'
very cool. well earned.
Having @ThinkingBasketball's insights on how the Cs dominated the Finals in the freaking NBA page is basically the league admitting the Mavs had no chance in hell outside of Luka/Kyrie making impossible circus shots for 48 mins. Good to see this video here.
Besides Mazzulla and the coaching staff, big chunk of the credit goes to the players themselves for buying in to the system and using all of the 82 games to master their defensive craft.
You can really see the Pep Guardiola influence in Joe's detailed and systematic approach of the game. Pep changed football forever, and we might see a massive change in the basketball landscape with Joe.
In a trip to Manchester City's training ground some time ago, Mazzula was speaking to some of the players. He shared how he studies their (Man City) transition defense and counter attacks. Linking it to basketball.
After game 5, Mazzula said Pep Guardiola helped him with transitions and movement of the players because Dallas is a great defensive team and they had to be creative.
Watching the Celtics you can see the similarities especially with the spacing, the fluidity of the players and their ability to adapt to what the opponent does.
Mazzula is now studying how Pep Guardiola is able to keep building dominant teams that never tire of winning.
Good luck yo everyone else.
Another insightful content from Ben Taylor . My goat 🐐 ❤
i love derick white
Derick White MVP first two rounds of the playoffs.
Ben Taylor is setting the standard for easy to digest basketball analysis
Thinking Basketball on NBA, the world is healing
That play with all the fingerpointing was amazing coordination. Pity it did not result in a swish!
Terrific analysis, the best I've heard yet on the finals.
Mazzulla deservedly is getting credit for Boston's tremendous multi-layered strategy at both ends. But these players deserve just as much credit for their execution and intuitive understanding of how to play together. This is the most high-end, disciplined and intentional thinking defense I've seen in 45 years of watching the NBA. They've even surpassed the Spurs in that regard.
Look at UDs face while listening at Mazulla lmao!
Love my coach !! 🍀
Thinking basketball now officially part of the NBA.... As Rick Ross would say.."now that's big time"...Congratulations Sir, well deserved.
Shout out to Thinking Basketball I have been following for two years.
The crazy part is that besides game 1. That was Boston worst shooting spree from three had they been average this series would been over and done with.
You want to know what is hiliaorus... I did this in NBA 2K the other night. It actually fucking worked. My opponent didn't know what to do. So basically he isolated the entire game. I could tell he was not use to playing like that and just wanted to get to his pick and roll.
Yea I learn from playing Madden. That most players unless high class professional gamers rarely ever scheme or rely on bugs/glitches. For example I got dominated in the first half in passing game by an high overall quarterback by running man and blitz so I adjusted to zones with few blitz in between. He had 217 yards in just the first half in the second half and ended with 290.
@@rizkuda One of the other things was he couldn't post up his mismatches down low 😆
Jamal was bamboozled but he wouldnt care, but UD was shooked and know why his heat was cooked 😂
great content! you're the best at this
Joe is so good
Why is no one talking about how the official NBA channel posted a Thinking Basketball vid?!
A collab with @ThinkingBasketball ? Awesome. Great RUclips channel for NBA content.
gafford & lively were a complete mess if they were outside the paint, derrick & pj never got into rythm because boston wasnt double teaming luka or irving. Their bench players were completely shut down and jason kidd was out coached, it was just a disastrous finals for dallas and a clinic from boston start to finish.
Exactly right my friend. Which sucks that Kyrie gets most of the blame and Kidd doesn't. Don't get me wrong he deserves the blame though, but I think TD Garden also had an effect on him cuz in Game 3 and 4 he played his best basketball.
Derrick White & Jrue Holiday INSANE BACK-COURT DEFENSE 💪🔥💪
One of the best defensive performances I’ve seen in a finals in a long time . Pure dominance
As a Celtics fan, I doubted Joe Mazulla, now he has my respcet . ☘️
what a great Coach #JoeMazzulla 🎉 and his entire coaching staff
#BostonCeltics 🏆
Celtics are the greatest franchise in NBA history.
Most Regular season wins
Most Playoff wins
Most Finals wins
Most wins in NBA history
Prior to the All Star break I dubbed this era of NBA basketball the 'Age of the International Center.'
This was an acknowledgement of the dominating, winning effect of the best of the best bigs in the NBA: Jokic, Embiid, Antetokounmpo, Gobert, Towns, Sabonis, Markkanen, etc.
I did not anticipate that the Boston Celtics- whose premiere players are versatile wings- would end up winning the chip.
A deeper dive into the roster of said rival team, however, would reveal that the Celtics are, in fact, at the cutting edge of this era, with a total of 3 internationally born centers on their roster: Kristaps Porzingis (Latvia), Al Horford (Dominican Republic), and Neemias Queeta (Portugal).
Much like an imposing offensive line in football, those whose actions have the greatest impact on winning tend to escape notice, instead resigning themselves to heroism of the unsung variety. Doing the dirty work, and allowing your teammates the glory of favor and adulation of the public.
Nonetheless, the foundation, the formula, the championship recipe for this year's Celtics team does in fact confirm my observations of where the league is, and the direction it is going.
The next two decades of professional basketball will be very much about the giants of the world defying every known principle of physics and human kinesiology to both dazzle and dominate in the sport of basketball.
The Age of the International Center is here, and it ain't going nowhere anytime soon.
"the man cant move faster than the ball" thats one of Pep's main principles in his football philosophy, Mazzulla might just be the basketball Guardiola
Great video. Just to let you know John Karalis has named dropped you guys at least once or twice recently. Good stuff!
GREAT ANALYSIS
NBA channel had to bring in someone to explain what they couldn't lol
After last year’s Miami series, I thought Joe Mazzulla was totally overmatched. I’m glad to admit I was apparently wrong. Great video!
Amazing coaching 👏
That works because JT is tall and strong. It's a case of great roster building and Jalen Brown working hard on his game.
Haslem's face in that very first minute is a graphical representation of his basketball takes
JB legit turned NASA down to follow his NBA path. Dudes scary smart lol
Masterful!
The Celtics and TWolves have the best defensive team in the concluding season. The big difference is the coaching style. While the Celtics remained focus in defense ' till the end, the Wolves suddenly collapsed in the WCF because their coach didn't make the switches they should be doing and was unable to push his players to be more physical like the Celtics. The author was right, the Celtics as a team is more cerebral.
I was thinking the same thing and found the difference. Wolves panicked and doubled luka while celtics stay poised and kept defending him one on one. Doubling luka opens up a lot cause he's big and picked apart the defense. Celtics live with luka getting his numbers but dont want others to start getting 10,15,20,25 points. Wolves keep playing gobert while they should have gone small so that they have more defensive versatility.
@templr44_ true, the only team that matches up well with celtics is only nuggets imo. maybe okc. youth, healthy and athletic.
There are also some differences between the Celtics' defenders and the Wolves' defenders. Jaden McDaniels is a great defender, but he doesn't have the bulk to handle big, physical offensive players like Doncic, whereas Brown, and even Tatum are bulky enough to handle Doncic without sacrificing any of their quickness. Also, when it came to defending Kyrie, again, the Celtics were better equipped for that.
It’s so funny to me at 5:38 how Luka complains to the refs for a foul when that basket shouldn’t have counted to begin with.
I'm not good with basketball analytics, so a genuine question here - is this all for real? Because it looks like various plays happen and then analysts like TB say this and that happens to do this and to shut down that. Like the infamous 'the curtains are blue because author wants to represent sadness', and in reality the curtains are just blue with no reason.
I mean I don't want to diminish coaching and analysts staff work, but my take is that it is much simpler.
What I've seen is that Boston had a much better roster and easier path to finals.
Mavs playerd 17 games prior finals, had to score 2,116 points, and had 6 days of rest. Luka was gassed out all the time, Kyrie was shut down psychologically and other players missed open shots all the time.
Boston had 15 games, had to score 1,632 points, had 9 days of rest and played home. And everyone except Tatum brought their A game. Tatum only played good when Celtics were up 20 or after 3-0.
btw I believe Celtics would've won anyway even if both teams had a hard time reaching finals and Kyrie showed up, but it would've been 4-3 Celtics, rather than 4-0 (I do believe it was a sweep and that one win in Dallas was kinda intentional)
Bad coaching killed the Nuggets and the Wolves in the playoffs. Boston has to use any tricks up their sleeve to defeat the Mavs and thats when good coaching matters. Jason Kidd didnt even start to adjust after Game 3 lol
Awesome vid
This was incredible to withess
Thinking Basketball!!!!
We done with the 90s. The amount and variety of defensive schemes and rotations displayed here werent even possible in the illegal defense era
Celtics over here playing moneyball
Some say IQ some say Coaching...its actually quite more simple than that. This is the first time Mavs been to the finals since Luka Kyrie Kidd Galford any of them been there on the same team...MEANWHILE dont forget that Celtics SINCE THE LBJ east coast era have been in the finals countless times....this finals win boils down to the celtics having Wayyy more finals experience than the mavs...no iq no coaching just the celts comfortable being there their what 4th time with basically THE EXACT SAME PERSONNEL...they are expected to win they have more xp.
You mean how the great celtics dominated the entire season ;)
After seeing many clips u can see there were extra passes Dallas could have made mostly Luka as the pg but the greediness to score killed them
lively and gafford need to learn post up moves against smaller guys to counter celtics.
I love those ghost screens that Jrue would set. It wasnt just they out talented wveryone. They outthought and out collaborated everyone. Hell they were extremely disciplined too...none of the foul baiting by Dallas and Luka in particular amounted to much. Some idiot casuals will blame refs....praise discipline and film study instead. Blame Dallas for not really changing even that stupid foul tactic up.
Wow! I guess Celtics has the wherewithals to be on a roll again next season....they just need to add one capable like-minded big man as an insurance if and when KP gets injured.
7:28 wow
come on, need subtitles please, thank you
Joe really did implement some very unorthodox strategies that i didn't even notice watching the game
It shows how dead the post is right now. The amount of times the switch gives lively a mismatch on 6'6 Brown yet never posts him up
*I’VE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS. BY NOW I KNOW HE SEES MY COMMENTS. WHEN WILL WE GET A “THINKING BOXING” CHANNEL WITH THIS ANALYTICAL DATA COLLECTION AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND STATS?!*
If Kristaps Porzingis stay healthy this season & consistent 2024 playoffs Boston big chance get #18 banner this season 💪🔥💪
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“But but he doesn’t call timeouts when I want him to!”
Last season this was a big argument, and it held alot weight. Even Wyc was getting on him in the ecf last year. He has since improved in this department.
@@America2Monaco I don’t really see it that way. His philosophy didn’t change, the execution got better and media/fans also slowly started to understand more.
I think the timeout complaint was always super weak.
@nickgilday8946 You weren't paying attention, then. Joe was burning through timeouts this entire post-season. When you have the owner questioning it, outsiders like JJ Redick bringing it up in interviews, and everyone on realgm talking about it, you know it was a major concern.
@@America2Monaco yea people hate what they don’t understand. His philosophy didn’t change. He was clear about why he didn’t call them and had a plan as to when he would. Listen to Zach Lowe recent podcast with him on and you’ll hear him actually speak on it. In short.. those worried were just wrong, cuz they never bothered to ask why.
Imagine if ESPN did stuff like this instead of showing us a table of dorks at every turn.
Mavs were legit the perfect match-up for us. Not physically gifted enough to go with our attackers and too stagnant/singular with their attacking methods. Both the Nuggets and TWolves would've taken us to 7 games imo. God bless both teams for their chokes and various moments of incompetence
We would’ve beaten the Timberwolves in 5 too. While they match up better with us defensively their offense is trash
I *smell* a 3-Peat 🍀🏀🏆💍
They simply worked as a team, trust each other and with 2 leaders at the helm. While the Mavs are being run by 2 individuals (Luka & Kyrie) mostly taking plays into their own hands with less teamwork and leadership.
They defended their corners and attacked Dallas' corners. And then forcing short rolls chances with Jrue is unfair. Also tactical fouling is something Pep is all for. They've broken basketball because they've broken the corner 3.
The midrange is gonna come back into vogue.
Yeah Joe!
jrue is the most valuable.
Jaylen Brown ENTER his 1st YEAR PRIMES 💪🔥💪
Take this down before JJ Redick tries to copy us
Cool
“not battle tested”
Yes high IQ not a lot of NBA teams operate in this manner ie Lakers
Thinking basketball the 🐂 RUclips channel... You know your content is good when the NBA posts your videos.
Reason why every "expert/tv analyst" rooted for Mavs to win is because of Kyrie's and Luka's offense. Offense is much more popular in NBA than defense. Little they know, Celtics has much better defense. I mean, I love offensive plays, sure! But come on man, Offense is +2 and Defense is -2. They're basically the same in terms of scoring. Defense wins championships! This so called "Boring Finals" is a defensive masterpiece in Celtic's POV. Celtic is so dominant that they made the finals boring! And also, "THEY HATE US CAUSE THEY AINT US!" Let's go Boston!!
I just know America lost, and I'm loving it 😂
As a Basketball Purist this is just too much to watch!
they say IQ is what separates you in the finals. The celtics seemed steps ahead of the mavs these series.
Bro looks at the broadcaster face as he was explained thier process. They looked dumbfounded as kids.
All the casuals wanted Joe Mazzulla to get fired everytime they lose even if they are 15 games above.500. 😂
"The Gospel is that I am so sinful that Jesus had to die for me, yet so loved and valued that Jesus was glad to die for me. This leads to deep humility and deep confidence at the same time. I can't feel superior to anyone, and yet I have nothing to prove to anyone."
-- Tim Keller
We are in North Korea
Could you imagine the NBA RUclips channel licensing out Awful Coaching for a video? lmaoooo
Jason Kidd is keeping us there!
Why don't other teams just outsource their tanking and major paydays while building a squad of nothing but high IQ, high talent, all situation players that can shoot and defend? Are they stupid?
A total of ZERO basketball fans in America outside of Boston saw this all season, which is why 89% of them picked Mavs to win the series.
I don’t think it’s a conspiracy, but I wonder if sports outlets like ESPN having their own betting arm is a conflict of interest. I wonder how many less sophisticated fans were placing bets based on the Mavs slanted coverage.
@@rossconklin7140 it’s called sports entertainment for a reason, so they can legally script the sports. Their ESPN puppets get paid millions of dollars per year to push a narrative to deceive/throw off the public. They already know the winner beforehand. Stephen A. Smith told everyone at the start of the season Boston were winning it all, then changed come finals time to throw the public off.
i gaurantee nba stole this vid from another youtuber
😂
They did 😂😂 this is the homie basketball IQ
only a great off-ball player can defeat Celtics.
First
nba is MULTI MULTI BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION. HOW IS THE MAVS COACHING STAFF GETTING COOKED BY SUCH EASY LOOKS LIKE THIS. WHY IS LUKA ON JB.
IF YOUR WHOLE GAMEPLAN IS TO FUNNEL PLAYERS INTO LIVELY/GAFFORD AND THEY ARE CONSTANTLY NOT ABLE TO PLAY THAT ROAMER POSITION.... SUB OR SCHEME DIFFERENTLY
Implementing such scheme would recquire to actually bench Luka
That's on Kidd. Besides an few adjustments and game 4 he really got out coached. Gave minutes to fuckin Tim hardway jr.
most boring NBA Champion in NBA history
One of the weakest nba playoffs😅
As a diehard lakers fan I can’t wait for my lakers championship parade next season💜💛🏀.
Lakers ain’t winning anytime soon. Celtics are going back2back. Get used to see Boston parades soon and often. 🥷☘️
Well... they might get an in season tournament championship again? Lol. Maybe they'll throw a parade for that since it ain't happening otherwise.
You can’t honestly think the Lakers, who lost in the first round without putting up much of a fight and who have a completely inexperienced head coach, are going to win the championship next season. That’s preposterous. Your Lakers are closer to rebuilding than they are contending.
This must be a joke.
1. this shows less about how smart Boston is and more about how dumb Minn was.
2. Most of the "genius" of the defense was Jrue and White knowing where to go,
3. If the Mavs had made some of those open threes, on the road, this would have been a longer series.
this is why 2022 gsw are better than 2024 mavs
steph and his teammates all all stepping up while the mavs only has luka and kyrie
plus luka is terrible in 3 point shots.
This Boston team is head and shoulders better than the 22 Boston team that's a bad comparison this team is also smarter great duo's fill each other's holes it seems JT and JB have figured that out in the playoffs and stopped playing the same game if they have and don't let the media split them up they have a chance to be special as a team for a long time to come.