Nice bench. I've found it best NOT to attach the shooters chair to the table. Any movements or wiggles gets transferred to the table from the chair. Keeping them separate removes that issue.
Actually, if you move or wiggle your bottom, the movement travels up your torso transferring that movement to the upper body. With arms attached to your torso and with them resting on the bench top surface, no matter how or if the seat is attached, your shot placement will suffer. For best results, the only part of your body that should be moving from trigger squeeze to primer strike is your trigger finger.
I set my bench in concrete 400lbs of it plus put pea gravel on the ground to keep brass out of dirt. Has worked very good so far. Solid and still dead level
i dont have a good table but i shoot indoors and i place a laser line on table with a line out to my 15 yard target to test table for vibration, i look down range with my scope at a white sheet of paper to see the vibration effect of the table, found that if i am still just a few more seconds that table would work ok, this is shooting 1/4 targets at 15 yards indoors with air rifles, a vibration check i think is good to do with any table just to see if its causing shots to go off a little, and how to take out vibration or wait a little time before the shot to settle it down, i would guess thickness and weight can help stop vibration and a good foundation, maybe thats why some ranges have cement tables and chairs to remove vibration, but i think we can work with good constructed wood tables planted on the ground just right possibly
hey Aaron what are those benches costing . ive been building and selling a few . just want a price comparison . that's a really good looking bench . was at your event in Vernon B.C. a few years back . keep up the good work
One question......You suggest the left hand will support the rear sand bag @ 1:28 ? Why do you not support the front of the gun ? Is it not a better Idea to hold the fore-end firmly so as to minimize muzzle jump ? Common sense would have me steadying the gun front and back? Shooting high powered rifles with one hand sounds less than optimum ?
Ideally the fore end of the rifle will be supported by a shooting bag or bi-pod. I see it all the time, even by experienced shooters. Don't touch the fore end of that rifle if it's supported by a dead object. Once on target, be sure there is no hand torque applied to the rifle to "keep it on target." Any torque applied by you will effect the harmonics and of course accuracy. Procedure: Get into the rifle, soft neutral grip (no finger on the trigger), rear stock "in the pocket (not on shoulder)," sight picture, lean into rifle stock, squeeze the bag, breath in, make final picture to have no torque or pressure on stock with grip or cheek, breath in, breath out 2/3-3/4 of breath (bottom of tidal volume), place pad of finger only on trigger, squeeze trigger straight back toward you.... follow through like you're going to watch the impact through the scope. Always stay in the rifle.
If you're on a bench then you're most likely going to be using a shooting rest on the forend and a bag on the stock... That combo keeps your rifle in the same position for each shot which is especially handy when zeroing.
I will go check yer website but will ask for a video or photo tour of your shooting range "shack" ....have something similar using my shop with a garage door and bench, albeit not as nice as yours appears it's heated and air conditioned etc . Enjoy all that you folks do.... Thanks. Stay safe !
Bench rest shooting is not about fast. That's a different drill. Bench rest shooting is, like he said, knowing the rifle. Knowing yourself in a hunting situation is a different critter altogether.
Yes, bench shooting can build confidence in equipment. Yes, it’s good for load development. It however should not give you any confidence in a long range hunting scenario. If you want hunting confidence, you need to shoot how you hunt. If you’re going to shoot prone on dirt and rocks, shoot prone on dirt and rocks. If you’re going to shoot off a tripod while standing, shoot off a tripod while standing. I don’t care if you can shoot a 3” group at 600 yards off a bench with a rest and a rear bag. That doesn’t mean that you can hit the broadside of a barn, let alone an animal’s vitals at that distance from and improvised shooting position. PRS shooters don’t practice from a bench. They practice how the competition is. Hunters should practice in hunting conditions. At dusk, off shooting sticks, resting against a tree, etc. Practice how you hunt. That will give you the confidence that you need.
Long range shots are not really ethical... its more for bragging rights. imo 95% of the deer I shoot are within 100 yards because i get as close as possible. for every animal that someone shoots at 500 or more yards... how many animals are wounded and run off to die because the shooter did not want to track them down? I have never missed a deer at 100 yards. My rifle is capable of deer at 300 yards with its original iron sights. I prefer to shoot at 100 yards and never miss.
You are absolutely in the bulls eye with that philosophy! I don't want a 400 inch elk. I don't have a wall big enough to display it if I was inclined to. I'll take that 4 point and fill my freezer with good eating.
@@redhawk449 If i shot a 400" elk it would take me 5 years to eat it. I can deer meat now. I freeze the lions and back straps with vacuum sealing. All the rest gets canned. Still takes me almost a year to eat a deer. I only have one niece that like deer meat. Rest of my family does not like deer meat. More for me.
He didn't say anything about yardage. He did say he's talking about the rifle's performance so the hunter can be confident in that. A 400" elk on the other side of a canyon 300 yards wide? 400 yards wide... depends on your rest in the field, your ability, your chamber... he's not discussing any of that here. It's a video about a bench and what you glean from the bench.
With the dimensions provided you can build a similar proportioned bench out of whatever you choose. I happen to have a welder but for my purposes (and cost) I would build this out of pressure treated lumber to the suggested dimensions using a non-attached bench seat.
Nice bench. I've found it best NOT to attach the shooters chair to the table. Any movements or wiggles gets transferred to the table from the chair. Keeping them separate removes that issue.
Actually, if you move or wiggle your bottom, the movement travels up your torso transferring that movement to the upper body. With arms attached to your torso and with them resting on the bench top surface, no matter how or if the seat is attached, your shot placement will suffer. For best results, the only part of your body that should be moving from trigger squeeze to primer strike is your trigger finger.
Thank you for the measurements!
Great video Aaron thanks for sharing your expertise on shooting with all of us that enjoy this sport,
Great video with a great deal of useful ideas and information. Thanks for posting!
Nice bench. My father designed a bench pretty similar to what you guys use. But this was well over 10yrs ago and was for someone out here in Wyoming.
I set my bench in concrete 400lbs of it plus put pea gravel on the ground to keep brass out of dirt. Has worked very good so far. Solid and still dead level
Thanks for the dimensions and tips! Looks like an excellent shooting bench that will last a lifetime.
I'm taking notes thanks for the info and plan to building one real soon!
i dont have a good table but i shoot indoors and i place a laser line on table with a line out to my 15 yard target to test table for vibration, i look down range with my scope at a white sheet of paper to see the vibration effect of the table, found that if i am still just a few more seconds that table would work ok, this is shooting 1/4 targets at 15 yards indoors with air rifles, a vibration check i think is good to do with any table just to see if its causing shots to go off a little, and how to take out vibration or wait a little time before the shot to settle it down, i would guess thickness and weight can help stop vibration and a good foundation, maybe thats why some ranges have cement tables and chairs to remove vibration, but i think we can work with good constructed wood tables planted on the ground just right possibly
Thanks!
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hey Aaron what are those benches costing . ive been building and selling a few . just want a price comparison . that's a really good looking bench . was at your event in Vernon B.C. a few years back . keep up the good work
One question......You suggest the left hand will support the rear sand bag @ 1:28 ? Why do you not support the front of the gun ? Is it not a better Idea to hold the fore-end firmly so as to minimize muzzle jump ? Common sense would have me steadying the gun front and back? Shooting high powered rifles with one hand sounds less than optimum ?
Ideally the fore end of the rifle will be supported by a shooting bag or bi-pod. I see it all the time, even by experienced shooters. Don't touch the fore end of that rifle if it's supported by a dead object. Once on target, be sure there is no hand torque applied to the rifle to "keep it on target." Any torque applied by you will effect the harmonics and of course accuracy. Procedure: Get into the rifle, soft neutral grip (no finger on the trigger), rear stock "in the pocket (not on shoulder)," sight picture, lean into rifle stock, squeeze the bag, breath in, make final picture to have no torque or pressure on stock with grip or cheek, breath in, breath out 2/3-3/4 of breath (bottom of tidal volume), place pad of finger only on trigger, squeeze trigger straight back toward you.... follow through like you're going to watch the impact through the scope. Always stay in the rifle.
Wow , just wow . No don't hold the front of the gun , he was sssuming everyone was smart enough to know to use a front rest .
If you're on a bench then you're most likely going to be using a shooting rest on the forend and a bag on the stock... That combo keeps your rifle in the same position for each shot which is especially handy when zeroing.
I will go check yer website but will ask for a video or photo tour of your shooting range "shack" ....have something similar using my shop with a garage door and bench, albeit not as nice as yours appears it's heated and air conditioned etc .
Enjoy all that you folks do.... Thanks.
Stay safe !
"Plans" are always nice..... :-(
What are the legs made out of?
My local elk herd is deathly allergic to benches
Try shooting prone! :)
i need to get make a bench but it has to be mobile.
I always th thought that the shooter was supposed to be behind the gun and not beside it for recoil and getting back on target faster.
Bench rest shooting is not about fast. That's a different drill. Bench rest shooting is, like he said, knowing the rifle. Knowing yourself in a hunting situation is a different critter altogether.
why is it only right handed?
did you watch the video? IT tells you how to make it both ways.
powerram92 just cut one out for a right handed person and.flip it to.make a left hand table.
Yes, bench shooting can build confidence in equipment. Yes, it’s good for load development. It however should not give you any confidence in a long range hunting scenario.
If you want hunting confidence, you need to shoot how you hunt. If you’re going to shoot prone on dirt and rocks, shoot prone on dirt and rocks. If you’re going to shoot off a tripod while standing, shoot off a tripod while standing. I don’t care if you can shoot a 3” group at 600 yards off a bench with a rest and a rear bag. That doesn’t mean that you can hit the broadside of a barn, let alone an animal’s vitals at that distance from and improvised shooting position.
PRS shooters don’t practice from a bench. They practice how the competition is.
Hunters should practice in hunting conditions. At dusk, off shooting sticks, resting against a tree, etc. Practice how you hunt. That will give you the confidence that you need.
What is a 400 inch Elk?
I kind of thought it had something to do with the antlers but 400 inches that is a big Elk.
Long range shots are not really ethical... its more for bragging rights. imo 95% of the deer I shoot are within 100 yards because i get as close as possible. for every animal that someone shoots at 500 or more yards... how many animals are wounded and run off to die because the shooter did not want to track them down? I have never missed a deer at 100 yards. My rifle is capable of deer at 300 yards with its original iron sights. I prefer to shoot at 100 yards and never miss.
You are absolutely in the bulls eye with that philosophy! I don't want a 400 inch elk. I don't have a wall big enough to display it if I was inclined to. I'll take that 4 point and fill my freezer with good eating.
@@redhawk449 If i shot a 400" elk it would take me 5 years to eat it. I can deer meat now. I freeze the lions and back straps with vacuum sealing. All the rest gets canned. Still takes me almost a year to eat a deer. I only have one niece that like deer meat. Rest of my family does not like deer meat. More for me.
He didn't say anything about yardage. He did say he's talking about the rifle's performance so the hunter can be confident in that. A 400" elk on the other side of a canyon 300 yards wide? 400 yards wide... depends on your rest in the field, your ability, your chamber... he's not discussing any of that here. It's a video about a bench and what you glean from the bench.
cool but most people dont have a welder lol :(
It's called wood and screws.
With the dimensions provided you can build a similar proportioned bench out of whatever you choose. I happen to have a welder but for my purposes (and cost) I would build this out of pressure treated lumber to the suggested dimensions using a non-attached bench seat.
The word is “HEIGHT” ends with a T not a TH…
really?