@Metal Fan Are we certain of that? I have heard such sentiment voiced by Michael and Eddie, but Geoff has always countered that notion. I know it's a real shame what happened here. I still hold that they are the most underrated super band ever. They really had something special going in their prime. At one time they were going to do a film and were bringing on investors for this. That fell through with all their disputing. I dream of one day this group coming together for collaborative projects which herald the greatness they once had.
clearly, the visions the medlodys on and on.. then they snatched it allup, or tried to.. the judge must have been thinking to himself with al the shyt goingon around the world and as rare as this gift is you guys are worse than a sewing circle on bridge night over a missing player, grow a pair, move on, it's about the rock and roll, the music, the GIFT, they shyt on the gifter of said music, big ol' raunchy steaming deuce right on the face.. can't help but wonder how that's going to pay off?
Actually, DeGarmo was the primary song writer in combination with Wilton and Tate for most of the time he was with the band. He was also the glue that held the band together. He was the one that kept the business side of the band running as President. After the departure of DeGarmo, Queensrÿvche began a very fast downward spiral. The split was only a matter of time.
Well, Todd La Torre might not sound as amazing as Geoff in his prime, but he does sound better than him today and the last 4 Queensryche albums are much better than everything Geoff did after Promised Land
I disagree…Geoff’s voice was a major part of the equation but the magic would never have been there without Degarmo’s songwriting as well. Successful bands are almost always “greater than the sum” situations and queensryche falls firmly into that category.
@@daviddaniel3996 No it is....Scott and Eddie are an amazing rhythm section, Scott always one of the best drum kits ever back in the day and Chris along with Michael were the equal if Dave and Adrian if Maiden, Michael Sweet and Oz from my boys STRYPER (who again just put out album of the year my material with The Final Battle), Alex and Eric from the BEST thrash band of all time Testament, Warren and Robin from Ratt, KK and Tipton from JP. I love Tate but just like Halford he has lead singer disease. I love the Ryche even more than Priest. Just like JP....I think their top 3 albums are Defenders, Screaming and the Ripper led Jugulator. I did not miss Halford and the first couple missing Tate....I did not miss him..... music matters, not just a voice. I love every member of Ryche but truth be told....losing DeGarmmo was HUGE and Mindcrime 2 a total failure. I support the band. Also truth be told...the band were ALWAYS amazing with the fans, Tate very pretentious....same thing with a drummer of a band I truly love with all my heart.....Rush. Alex and Ged we're awesome with fans but Neil a punk Yet, Neil wanted to write books and have fans but those books but to hell with signing a book and shaking the hand of a fan....nah, dude was too good for that. Talk about the height of pretentious. Again the band matters and if you think a guitar player is just another guitar player ....then do you truly appreciate the music made? Example, I love Ozzy but if not for Randy or Jake.... In zzy could NEVER come up with Bark on his ok w let alone the masterpiece known as Diary of a Madman. I like the first album with Zakk but to me he did not play the Jake stuff as well as he did Randy stuff.....the music as n matters , not just a voice
He tried to fill all management positions in the band with his family members. There is a limit to how much other bandmates can take. RIP one of the greatest bands in metal history.
Then he spit on Scott rockenfeld when Scott told him they were going to be firing his wife from management. Scott wasn't the only one who made that decision, they all decided to fire her. Scott was just the messenger.
The name Queensryche should go to Geoff. His voice was the band. That's what I feel. As for those who say, "Geoff is a jerk; Geoff is an asshole," Well, here's my take on it: He obviously has a God-given talent that very few people have; a freaking awesome voice. And when you literally spend 30 years surrounded by nothing but people telling you how great you are, it would be almost impossible for ANYONE not to let it go to their head. But I still and will always love Geoff.
Man.....I ALWAYS loves Queensryche but the Truth is I saw the writing on the wall Years ago too. They Stopped being Queensryche when Chris DeGarmo left.
Gerald Knauss II not necessarily, Degarmo started to write shity songs in '87 Hear now the new frontier cd album sucks balls except the song sign of the times from that particular cd. And that was because of the grung movement he made changes and the stupid band also follow changes along with Geoff Tate's singing ego, after that is history.
If only his inside would be beautiful. Read the revealing article "QUEENSRŸCHE Guitarist: GEOFF TATE Spat In My Face, Punched Me And Called Me A 'Pussy' July 11, 2012. " So much behind the scenes drama made by the Tates. Very ugly. It is fantastic that Queensrÿche found new and better life now.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but DeGarmo is QR himself... He wrote the majority of the music and lyrics that are worth anything. Sure Tate has the voice, but without DeGarmo... No..
Dude, that’s just not how it works with “brands” and the like. Whether we like it or not, there’s a lot of money in a “brand” like queensryche. If there wasn’t, you wouldn’t always be seeing these sorts of legal battles when bands split. Is is a good thing? Absolutely not...but its reality, unfortunately
100% agreed! There is no Queensryche without Geoff. Totally agreed and my thinking exactly they should move on and form new band names. Same with Alice in Chains. You cannot have Alice in Chains without Layne.
Tate is a man of grace. His voice is one in 100 million. Everything is complicated with a lot of working parts but you can't deny his legacy with the band . . . because of him there would be no Queensryche. No real legacy.
I agree. They LITERALLY made it big because he said yes to singing Queen of the Reich. I know there are two sides to every story but no matter how talented the other musicians were... Geoff's voice is what put them over the top and got them noticed.
I saw Geoff Tate last night in Falls Church Va. One of the best concerts I have ever seen. He did the entire Mindcrime album for the 25 year anniversary. Awesome awesome show.
If only all bands could get along like the Premium Band of RUSH ! Over 42 years together and still touring, making albums and most importantly, having fun doing it ! Greed and big ego's will ruin a band every time ! It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it !
@@officerccarpetcare9117 Lol. They suck? Ok. They are incredibly successful if you don't happen to like their incredibly complex and creative music, that is your choice but to say they suck is silly. Are you 11 years old?
One of the top 10 albums ever put to vinyl was "Operation Mindcrime", which was Tates baby. They then put out "Operation Mindcrime II AFTER Degarmo, another example of Tates talent, and that album was nothing short of a masterpiece. Tate is Queensryche in my opinion and always will be.
Have you heard the vinyl of Op Mindcrime? To me, most vinyls by the mid 80’s were too digitalized and didn’t have the crisp warmth that vinyl should have
I've always thought Empire was purdy fookin good as well, I'll never forget, hopefully when I was working for Eddie debartolo on the tacoma mall doing seismic upgrades for all teh stores HVAC units.. to get up to the roof we had to go through a roof access hatch at the music store there at the mall, and right by the ladder on the wall going up they had that calendar that counted down the days till Empires release, dunno how many times I knocked it over bringing tools and what not up to the roof, they'd set it right back in the same place.. it said "XX more days till Empire" August 20 1990 ... I bought it when it was released, cassette, wore it out, fixed it wore it out again, fixed it, dunno where it ended up? ina bag maybe brian got them? good times, good year... aside from the corkwad stealing my Celica out the parking lot had the rockford fosgate system I installed myself in it.. about $5k worth.. arsehat, hope your arse is still getting stretched out in prison dickweed!
@@gaetano5669 how could vinyl sound "digitalized"? vinyl always was, is and will be analog sounding. perhaps overall recording quality changed by 86' b/c mass pressing of a number of titles were production implemented. but the crisp warmth you're talking about is obtainable on any record by accurately tweaking your player or stereo rack's eq.
@@zoltan2k6 in modern records when I’d compare to a CD, I often could not tell the difference. Tell you what, I’ll do another side by side of 20 different bands of whom I own vinyl that was print over the last decade vs their CD and we’ll meet back in a year. Deal?
@@gaetano5669sure, you can do whatever you want. im a soundboard guy for multiple decades & grew up in the 80s. you mentioned the 80s in your original comment so thats what i was going by. 4 decades ago, as in the 50 thru 70s, vinyl was essentially made the same way & the mastering soundstage was identical. i didnt notice anything digital sounding in the records i listened to thru 89, even up till 92. there were always plenty pops, pings, an emphasis of mids & some bass with a de-emphasis of highs ( ie the "warm" non digital thing), & other "organic" effects ppl who are obsessed with lps, girate over. if you want to talk modern, i can say without a doubt the vinyl produced now is made in a commercially expedient manufacturing process which may lend itself to a cd like soundstage & sound no different than one. remember vinyl coming back now & within the last decade is not designed to sway the general public of the last 2 generations to media based music.they are hopelessly hooked on computer generated sound & streaming services, minimalist bluetooth speakers & no comprehension of real 2.1 & 5.1 hifi stereo...the days of huge tower speakers & the value of physical media. vinyl now is there to appease & profit off of a relatively small group of nostalgics ( you & i included) who see music as way better in an antiquated format.
I am glad I got to see them a bunch of times in their early years. What a wonderful band they were when they all worked together. I agree things started to go downhill after DeGarmo left. But I saw them on Operation Mindcrime II tour and they put on a terrific show with a great set of all favorites. IMO Tate should get the name because his voice is just SO unmistakably beautiful. He IS Queensryche. Jackson, Rockenfield, and Wilton should just take a name from the Queensryche catalog and go their own way. I really don't care who was a jerk. That's just MY Opinion.
Totally agree. His voice is one in one hundred million. But all things rise and fall. They had a captured audience for a long time. Even now people are discovering their talent with most of the talent coming from Tate's voice.
@SealofPerfection And couldn't sing the songs worth shit today...what are you going to do...tune down an octave or two? The stupid Perry fanatics that think he could step in and sing like he did forty years ago are crazy! As far as musicianship, their first three albums were faaaaaaaar superior to anything done with Perry...three minute bubbke gum tunes, with a gem every now and again. Perry fired two of the best drummers in rock history, Dunbar and Smith, and put some fat putz on drums to sound like a drum machine on Raised on Radio. That album sucked giant turds! When Dunbar was fired by Perry, and Rolie left Journey went to shit! Wasting Schon's takent in crap!
Everyone forgets about Chris DeGarmo, I find him so underrated.. even when it comes to saying who "was" Queensryche. Maybe it was the best call for DeGarmo to decide to leave. . .
Chris was the arranger, composer, conceptual driving force behind the band. When they lost him, it just wasn't the same for me. Him and Geoff had that chemistry for years, and it will never be duplicated.
"Conceptual driving force" I'm honestly not sure about this statement as you have to consider the concept behind Mindcrime was entirely Geoff as was the loose concept behind Promised Land. Empire and HitNF were Chris' babies. Also I'm not sure where you get that he was the soul arranger. I DO believe he was likely the middleman. The person who would communicate and translate Geoff's ideas to the rest of the band in a way they could relate to.
To be honest, Queensryche was never really the same without Chris DeGarmo. I did see Queensryche in ~2004-5? Was the Fates Warning/Dream Theater gig. It appeared nobody in QR gave a sht...except Geoff Tate. I suspected something was up with the band, but Tate tried to give the every best show possible. Wilton never looked up from his fabulous hair and fretboard. Until I find out different I am siding with Tate.
No memorable vocal performances?? Have you even listened to the album?? Someone Else, Lady Jane, the title track, Out of Mind? Promised Land was arguably their prog pinnacle. It's not quite as easy to "get" which is probably why you believe as you do but it's a musical masterpiece. Sorry for responding to a two year old comment.
Pedro Reinaldo You're forgetting the bass. Go back and listen to Promise Land again, and listen to how much the bass is at the forefront of most the songs. Incredible in '94. I agree its not a Rage for Order or Operation Mindcrime, but its still good...especoally Eddie's bass licks.
And I thought that was a shitty record. LOL For me their last Great record was "Operation : Mindcrime", with a few decent songs around the time of "Empire".
Without the voice of Geoff Tate Queensryche is dead. His voice is queesryche and without him they will never make it. You are a talent and an inspiration Geoff and none of your past thirty years were in vain.
I don't care what he did or may have did, Geoff Tate is the reason Queensryche sold albums. His voice is one of the best all time. Especially on albums like the Warning.
Jeff is a good Vocalist and that is all the credit that I will give him. Back in 1990 when I met Queensryche, I only met Scott, Eddie, Michael and Chris. These guys were gentlemen and thankful and considerate to all the people. Jeff on the other hand, stormed thru everyone, went to the Prevost Tour Buss and slammed the Door. On his way to the Tour Bus, Jeff refused to Autograph anything and did not want his picture to be taken with anyone. That alone pissed me off. Back in 1990, Queensryche has never played a show in Duluth, MN., so first impressions do go a long way with a lot of people. I have met a lot of great Musicians during my Life (Motley Crue, Firehouse, Winger, Cinderella, Faster Pussycat, Poison, KISS, Sammy Hagar, Godsmack, Warrant, Dokken, Whitesnake, ZZ Top, Tesla, Trixter, Metallica and Ozzy just to name a few) and I fully understand that People, regardless of status, do have bad days. Having fame and fortune cane be overwhelming at times, but what Jeff did and how he treated people, was completely rude, unprofessional and completely disrespectful. When you are in the Music Industry, you are to take your Fans seriously and show them respect and gratitude. Here we are 31 years later and I remember that day, like it was yesterday. What a complete disappointment and I still feel sorry for those people who wanted something so simple, such as a Autograph, or even a picture.
KEEP GOING GEOFF TATE....YOU KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT YOU.... I SEEN YOU AT SELLERSVILLE ,PA. & METT YOU BACK STAGE...THANKS FOR YOU TOURING.....WISHING YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Take heart Geoff. Your world class music/vocals with Queensryche (especially the earlier stuff) influenced many musicians and metal fans worldwide, and cemented Queensryche as one of the all time GREATS of the genre for now, and years to come! THANK YOU for all the years of tour de force metal music, and for giving me immeasurable ecstatic listening pleasure!
Whatever Queensryche is now, they should remember, pay homage to and be thankful for what Queensryche was. Geoff Tate will always be blessed with that voice and he can hire session musicians or tribute bands to play exactly like those other fools in the band.
I have listened to the Reich since day one, this is a sad moment in music histry. Geof leaving/getting kicked out is the end of the Reich. His lyrics and music is what made and fueled their success. I will miss the music and message they as a whole sent. That being said.....I look forward to Geof's new music.
i give praise and blessings to all the members of Queensryche for whatever they do.they all got talent...whether together or apart.I think its sad for us to judge or take sides in their personal matters as a band.They spent 30 years together....more than most people spend married nowdays....so be glad they're still around people and give their solo work a chance to listen to.
Queensryche is and was TATE and DeGARMO. The rest of the band is what they are today and always were - competent but uninspiring. Like INXS without Michael Hutchence. Boring.
@@vallangaard when you find a comment saying what you were going to say and then another comment saying what you're going to say about the first comment... 😂
One of my most memorable head banging days in the 80's was working my way to the front of the crowd at the legendary Santa Monica Civic to get a 1x fist bump from Tate (opening for Yngwie Malmsteem). I was beyond stoked after pulling it off. I was the first in my So Cal neighborhood to find QR and at 54, certainly one of the last to still enjoy them as much or more as I did then. TY original QR for the countless hours of entertainment and those still to come. ✌🏼
Geoff Tate's voice is one of the greatest sounds in music and this band without tate is empty. There are certain talents that can't be replaced you can put someone in the spot but it still is lacking. I would rather stay home and listen to the old albums than go see the band without tate
Geoff Tate and Chris DeGarmo were always classic Queensryche to me. The idea of the 3 current band members kicking Tate to the curb and assuming the name is like Ronnie Wood and Charlie Watts kicking Mick Jagger and Keith Richards out of the Rolling Stones. What do they really hope to achieve?
Rage For Order, that is some of the best of the best, I don't care about personalities or insider news, just great tunes. Operation Mindcrime was one of the best.
@@VulgrimOfficial the lyrics on that album are way ahead of their time. Who would’ve ever thought that the lyrics would be synonymous with what’s going on in the world today. But I’m in total agreement. Mindcrime is an excellent album.
So sorry the band is broken up, they made some of the best metal music of my youth!! Saw them when they were "The Mob" playing in Bellevue and was so blown away when they came out with the 1sr ep that had "The. Lady Wore Black" on it!! Good times! And the rest is history of course with the many killer albums to follow!! Hope they all continue to pursue their musical interests no matter what name they do it under, who knows what could happen- lightening may strike twice!!
You should check out their new releases with Todd Latorre! He's a worthy singer to fill that role and he's got that metal heart which QR needed. The new stuff is the way they used to be.
my bf at the time used to chill and drink with Scott Weiland and a few of their close friends. Scott interestingly enough didn't really like talking about his own music as opposed to other bands, bands that he praised and bands that he flat out said were sh*t. He just happened to bring up Geoff, he said that he didn't know Geoff and never met the guy but that he had an amazing voice and he felt that he was a seriously underrated musician. He said the band f*cked up bcuz of poor marketing and management. I wonder if Scott was referring to his wife (Geoff's) since she was pretty much running the show at the time before the band fired her and Geoff. It's a he said, she said situation. RIP Scott 🤘
Its really effed up how they pushed Tate out. One of the reasons WHY the band mates did that (IMHO) was for writing credits and publishing credits. Tate was the driving force behind the craftmanship of Queensryche, and a lot of times that bothers other bandmates. Publishing credits and rights goes a LONGGGGGGG way in the music industry.
We went to See Geoff Tate last Saturday Night. His Band Played Flawlessly, and Geoff Hit all the notes perfectly! The concert was sold out! In fact, all Geoff Tate's Concerts are selling out. We were not there when the problems with the band started and we really don't know the whole story. What I can say is I feel really really sad about the split, and I hope things can work out. We met Geoff and the Band after the show, and they are a Class Act. Everyone was very nice!
Narcissism - originated with Narcissus in Greek mythology who fell in love with his own image reflected in a pool of water. Derives from arrogant pride.
Love his voice and his attitude. To hell with the other guys TATE WAS THE BAND ! he can get anyone to beat on a drum and play a stupid guitar. Just like all the greats. Elvis, Roy, cash. ALL are the band and can do it without the drama and the BS. Just grab some guys and play buddy we love you !
I am honestly grateful, as a long time fan, that Geoff was the one given the rights, so to speak, with being the one to continue singing the songs. Absolutely no one can sing Any Queensryche song like him 🤘🏼❤️
Never heard Geoff take any responsibility for what happened. This is disappointing. He was pissed they voted and fired his wife. It was all down hill from there. Just add alcohol.
Yes someone get's it. He is the reason they broke up, he thought he was the one and only one. yes he was good but not a god like he thought he was. and I just watched a video of Silent Lucidity, It sucked. nothing like before.
Based on the LONG story told by the other band members, Geoff was a narcissist's narcissist! He and his wife Susan gradually took over control of the entire band in the 90s and 2000s, making ALL the decisions on every aspect of Queensryche, from songwriting, touring, merchandising, legal decisions, etc etc. Supposedly Geoff and Susan froze everyone out, and didnt allow any input into the direction the band was heading. He REFUSED to sing most of their classic songs on tour, focusing only on newer, less popular material. Any time the other bandmates tried to stand up to him or his wife on any of their totalitarian decisions, Geoff would give them the ultimatum "do what we say, or ill quit the band". Then Geoff sold the rights to the Operation Mindcrime concept for a movie, but, as usual, he did it without telling the band. Worse yet, he had set it up so that he alone profited from it, even though it should've been split equally 4 ways. Thats only a few examples, and there are many, many more. Some even worse.
Geoff!!, he was the leader indeed. . . . the others flourished while he was in charge.... after that, they all went down, even the Leader.... They accepted his leadership because he was business saavy.... BUT, when they all hit certain age, their complexes started to burn deeper and... Nothing more depressive than a No-Leader thinking he can be better than the true leader, and try to take control just because, no more reason than just because. Definitively Geoff at one moment should've hired a "Jerry McGuire" or just beat the $h1t physically out of them to submit them and regain the machine's control... but I guess he did just that for about 30 years until, that breaking day, he must have gotten tired (understandable, he is no 20 anymore...)
Some of these newer bands should take lessons from him. That is how it is fucking done guys! Queensryche will forever live on in us old school metalheads hearts. Can’t imagine not having them
Still no matter what my favorite band and you as an artist, vocalist.. We know you definitely have poured your heart into everything it wasn't Everything that your music has brought to many of us, still stands true to this day ❤ Even over 25 years later.. and that is definitely love, ❤
I see myself in you, parallel lives.. Winding at light speed through time... I'm sure you'll never read this but there are so many that cherish everything about you, it's okay to be embarrassed but try to remember you have educated us for many years before,, we just weren't awake yet. Now we are though and we are still sharing your way of reaching us to SPEAK ❤
From the story telling style lyrics and the political and in depth themes of who I remember Queensryche to be, and Geoff's amazing voice, I think any fan should just remember the great music, the great time period and realize the group was what it was when it was, not now and not in the future will they duplicate who they were..either side. Geoff shoulda went to broadway and did his version of The Phantom of The Opera lol..yes..his voice was that awesome!
I agree whole heartedly-they were the team the made the music sound like it did. Not the the other members of QR were not all part of the sound-but if DGarmo didn't write such profound lyrics and if Tate didn't sing those lyrics then you wouldn't really have QR. So I think that it is a matter of both needing to be a part of the band in order to complete the sound/music!
The guitars, the voice, the amazing beats, it simply rocked and created a certain state of mind, a nirvana of thought and feeling that reached into the core of your imagination and soul. Queensryche will live on as long as people listen to music. They are timeless. Queensryche 2.0 has some of the musical chemistry. It was a struggle for me to adjust to the band without jeff tate and the voice did not fit the new guys face. Due to my love of the Tate years, i find myself wanting more. Therefore, i keep hoping Queensryche 2.0 will deliver me something i can love. The new rebel yell is decent. It will take me some time to dig the other stuff although the sound is pretty good, better than some of the other stuff since jeff tate left. Looking forward to Tates new recordings.
Makes the fact that Rush has been the same for almost 40 yrs seem all the more amazing. I loved Queensryche back in the day, but they kind of lost me after Promised Land. They are still one of my favorite bands. Maybe someday they can put their ego's aside and they can all get back together Geoff and Chris Degarmo.
I disagree they're really good musicians yes we wouldn't have queensryce but hey look when Dave got kicked out if Metallica Dave kicked ass started his own band didn't become as famous but he definitely made better music now that's a fact
Geoff had alot to do with it, but is a band effort, and a good singer is part of it, that was "Geoff Tate" and without "Chriss Degarmo" a lot of those Queensryche hits would not exist. Tate is a lyricist not a composer, he can write songs but is not in him.
+Dana W To replace Chris with KG was a very bad move. It was like trying to replace a Bentley with a John Deere tractor! Anyway QR were already going downhill big time. Hear In The Now Frontier was released before Chris left, actually he was the priary force behind that album, and it was a pseudo-grunge turkey…
+Metalgears1968 finally someone with a non judgmental answer I agree 100% once Chris left it just seemed like a matter of time before it all fell apart and I have to agree with Hitman1m1 once the split happened both sides should have made new groups, because what both sides call Queensryche today is just embarrassing.
Geoff and Chris are Queensryche. I agree that Queensryche were not the same after Chris left, but you have to keep in mind that Geoff is one of the greatest singers of all time, and he displayed the most technical singing in rock history and that was what made Queensryche special, its what made them stand out.
I never understood why Chris left the way he did. Nowadays I'm starting to believe he was running away to keep whatever was left of his sanity and self-respect for his work in the band and maybe whatever image he had left of his band mates
I saw Ryche open for Priest and Geoff Tate was so humble and so gracious! He repeatedly praised Rob Halford and referred to him as the legend and his band looked miffed lol. A narcissist would never offer that kind of praise publicly... the narcissists are the ones that were feeling less than all because Geoff was being cool... I know fanboys are all degarmo this and degarmo that and I'm a fan of degarmo on guitar but without Geoff, degarmo is just another axe slinger and he ain't Eddie Van Halen or Randy rhoads or Tony Iommi... without Geoff Tate there would've been no Queensryche.
Queensryche is gone. It started falling apart when DeGarmo left. I think Chris was the "glue" that was holding the band together. Each member is awesome, in their own right... but only together are they Queensryche. Amazing chemistry between them. One of those times where the sum is greater than all the parts.
The smartest guy in the room was Chris DeGarmo. He saw the writing on the wall, and left the band at its peak to focus on his other passion (flying). The band never recovered and the dysfunction continues to this day.
Like Gregg Rolie and Journey...they went to three minute bubble gum crrap after he left. Wasting Schon's talent on crap. They got rich, but the music went to crap!
OK kids, there comes a time in almost every band where people can not work with each other due to creative differences. Who was the one snatching peoples Iphones to keep them from taking video? Who was the one telling people in the crowd that they sucked? Take a good listen to Frequency Unknown and the namesake disc released by those who have been the writing core of Queensryche since the departure of Chris Degarmo. I normally do not chime in on things like this but seriously people..... take a break from whatever your world is and breathe in a little reality, if someone can be fired from a band and replaced do you truly think thay had that much of a stake in the brand name from the beginning? if you truly know the history of the band, you know Geoff was a hired gun for the recording of the original EP and had no real interest in staying with the band until a major label deal came along. Yes Geoff ONCE had powerful vocals but his style and direction have changed. The fight for the brand name is all about the ease of marketability of new product. Why should one person have control of it when there are 3 other lifelong, before the introduction of Tate, members still dedicated to the project. For F&#K$ sake people, quit believing the spin of whatever side you choose to takein this situation and look at the facts, This is politics plain and simple, believe whatever side gives the answers that sound best to you instead of doing the research and making your own decision..... that is why the ENTIRE PLANET IS SCREWED, because people believe in the answers handed to them instead of facts and their own point of view. Keep letting everything be handed to you on a sliver platter in false idolatry and you will be nothing more then Soylent Green
I agree with your comment on all levels. It's not only about Queensrÿche BUT for the rest of the world...countries, people, politicians etc. Very well said even years after.
Yep...just like all the Steve Perry Nuts that think he can come back and sing Journey songs like he did forty years ago....stupid....you would have to tune down an octave or two. Tate HAD a virtuoso voice, and still a good voice, but NO ONE can hit notes they did twenty or thirty years ago...sorry, those are the facts...he ain't what he once was. The only rock singer I have heard that was a virtuoso, (voice and guitar) that has been totally honest about it is Rik Emmett. He used to be abke to hit F#s every night with ease, 14th fret on 1st string of a guitar, but freely admits that before he stopped touring had to tune down an octave....nobody's voice stay 25 forever!
Queensryche will never be the same without Geoff Tate. Love him or hate him, I still like him by the way and if you don't frankly I don't give a damn, his voice practically carried the band in my opinioin.
jeff you are queensryche so keep on rocking love the new band sonds real good say you in Houston house of Blues. you killed it brother see u win u come back.
Nothing is forever especially when egos are involved , be proud of your legacy let it rest Queensryke is over we as fans still have the music and memories . 🙏
DeGarmo's departure to Queensryche was what Steve Clark's death was to Def Leppard. Neither band has been the same since losing an indispensable member who was both an awesome guitarist and songwriter.
Leave the past behind, dear Geoff! And look out for the future, with all the gifts the past brought to you! I hope my English is good enough to understand... I loved the young appearance in the past - and now as we all grew older I still love your appearance and what you say about live! It's so true.
I'm not defending anyone but I'm glad I could listen to his side of the story. I wish he'd leave the name of Queensryche and move on. Although I cannot think of the banf without all of them.
He's not dead. Great voice, definitely, but his "vision" is terrible. His vision has been most of the stuff that came after Empire (which has been steadily going downhill). Before that it was more of a collaborative effort. His "vision" has been to try as hard as possible to get away from the sound and style that made them popular.
I met Geoff at a meet and greet (one that cost me 50 bucks, by the way...), and I can tell you this: he is a jerk. I'm a vocalist and he is my biggest inspiration. I told him this when I met him and he stared at me for a second and then told me "thanks, I really appreciate that" in the most forced and uncaring way possible. He specifically seated himself in the middle as to make it nearly impossible to get a picture with him. He signed my Warning album, and I could see him scowl a bit as he scribbled his name across the front. Not even a smile the whole time. The man has just become an arrogant, self absorbed megalomaniac who has no respect for his fans.
while what you describe could very well be true, we dont know exactly how ypu were acting and what you said.. maybe you came off sideways, or he thought you were coming sideways. a lot of rockers (especially replaced) rockers who become famous and meets lots of fans all the times and hear the same thing all the time just dont care anymore, theyre people to and they get sick of it. chances are he was only doing meet and greet because the record company and promoters made him
Id have spit on you your ingrate.. no other singer of tates ilk even do meet and greets as hes fucking exhausted... what did you want Tate to do? blow you?... I know Geoff and hes a great guy and always has been
Jordan, I have to agree with you. In the early 80's just before the Warning album came out I was at a club to see TKO and all the Queensryche members where there. I meet Chris, Eddie , Scott and Geoff. Chris and Eddie took a couple of minutes to talk to me and Scott sat down at a table next to us. My friend said that it was Chris and I said no it's the drummer Scott, then Scott turned to me and shook my hand and said your right I'm the drummer. Later in between sets I saw Geoff standing there and wanted to tell him I can't wait for their album to be released and he said he didn't have time for me, I was ok with that but the way he said it was like he was all high and almighty. Please remember this was before they become real big.
Just a fan here but back in the day I too had the thought that these seemed to get along very well and would stick together. Well things happen and people change. I wish all of the band the best of luck! You guys are still awesome!✨🤘✨
I'm 53 and I'm a fan of theirs(his) from the get-go in the early 1980's!...I've seen them them twice- once opening up for Ozzy on his Ultimate Sin tour and once in Geoff's freakin' awesome Operation Mindcrime (which is my favorite concert besides Soundgarden's last tour) NO ONE in Rock can match Tate's voice! I'm on his side and it's a shame how the other mates ganged up on him, I understand that both parties are responsible for their actions but wtf happened to getting along with each other and keeping the fans happy?-(it's a rhetorical question but I am a bit steamed!) He is trained in operatic style that's what sets him apart from the rest!
Saw his solo tour here in San Antonio a few months ago and my wife and I were just frickin' blown away! Queens... who??? Sorry, there's no Queensryche without Geoff! I'm willing to bet there's plenty of blame to go around...
I seen the Tour with Metallica in the 80s. I wouldn't go see the queensryche of today. I've seen alot of bands and I consider Geoff Tate one of the best vocalists I've seen so far.
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Without Tate they couldn't have reached the levels they did. Good musicians and a great GREAT singer. Period.
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Are we certain of that? I have heard such sentiment voiced by Michael and Eddie, but Geoff has always countered that notion. I know it's a real shame what happened here. I still hold that they are the most underrated super band ever. They really had something special going in their prime. At one time they were going to do a film and were bringing on investors for this. That fell through with all their disputing. I dream of one day this group coming together for collaborative projects which herald the greatness they once had.
True, but with him they would still be releasing awful albums like Dedicated to Chaos
clearly, the visions the medlodys on and on.. then they snatched it allup, or tried to.. the judge must have been thinking to himself with al the shyt goingon around the world and as rare as this gift is you guys are worse than a sewing circle on bridge night over a missing player, grow a pair, move on, it's about the rock and roll, the music, the GIFT, they shyt on the gifter of said music, big ol' raunchy steaming deuce right on the face.. can't help but wonder how that's going to pay off?
Aha..."good musicians" that wrote the songs
@@RawadAMassih Isn't Geoff credited for writing on a majority of their songs?
Actually, DeGarmo was the primary song writer in combination with Wilton and Tate for most of the time he was with the band. He was also the glue that held the band together. He was the one that kept the business side of the band running as President. After the departure of DeGarmo, Queensrÿvche began a very fast downward spiral. The split was only a matter of time.
Talent is talent and both Geoff and the other members have it. So sad to see them end like this. Who loses? We do.
Very true!🤘
Amen brother
No we don’t. It’s like kids of a divorce. It would have been worse to stay in the toxic relationship. Now we get “two Christmases”
Geoff's voice will always be this band. His was the sound.
Hellyeah
Well, Todd La Torre might not sound as amazing as Geoff in his prime, but he does sound better than him today and the last 4 Queensryche albums are much better than everything Geoff did after Promised Land
I disagree…Geoff’s voice was a major part of the equation but the magic would never have been there without Degarmo’s songwriting as well. Successful bands are almost always “greater than the sum” situations and queensryche falls firmly into that category.
That is pure BULLSHIT
@@daviddaniel3996 No it is....Scott and Eddie are an amazing rhythm section, Scott always one of the best drum kits ever back in the day and Chris along with Michael were the equal if Dave and Adrian if Maiden, Michael Sweet and Oz from my boys STRYPER (who again just put out album of the year my material with The Final Battle), Alex and Eric from the BEST thrash band of all time Testament, Warren and Robin from Ratt, KK and Tipton from JP. I love Tate but just like Halford he has lead singer disease. I love the Ryche even more than Priest. Just like JP....I think their top 3 albums are Defenders, Screaming and the Ripper led Jugulator. I did not miss Halford and the first couple missing Tate....I did not miss him..... music matters, not just a voice. I love every member of Ryche but truth be told....losing DeGarmmo was HUGE and Mindcrime 2 a total failure. I support the band. Also truth be told...the band were ALWAYS amazing with the fans, Tate very pretentious....same thing with a drummer of a band I truly love with all my heart.....Rush. Alex and Ged we're awesome with fans but Neil a punk Yet, Neil wanted to write books and have fans but those books but to hell with signing a book and shaking the hand of a fan....nah, dude was too good for that. Talk about the height of pretentious. Again the band matters and if you think a guitar player is just another guitar player ....then do you truly appreciate the music made? Example, I love Ozzy but if not for Randy or Jake.... In zzy could NEVER come up with Bark on his ok w let alone the masterpiece known as Diary of a Madman. I like the first album with Zakk but to me he did not play the Jake stuff as well as he did Randy stuff.....the music as n matters , not just a voice
He tried to fill all management positions in the band with his family members. There is a limit to how much other bandmates can take. RIP one of the greatest bands in metal history.
Then he spit on Scott rockenfeld when Scott told him they were going to be firing his wife from management. Scott wasn't the only one who made that decision, they all decided to fire her. Scott was just the messenger.
The name Queensryche should go to Geoff. His voice was the band. That's what I feel. As for those who say, "Geoff is a jerk; Geoff is an asshole," Well, here's my take on it:
He obviously has a God-given talent that very few people have; a freaking awesome voice. And when you literally spend 30 years surrounded by nothing but people telling you how great you are, it would be almost impossible for ANYONE not to let it go to their head.
But I still and will always love Geoff.
Man.....I ALWAYS loves Queensryche but the Truth is I saw the writing on the wall Years ago too. They Stopped being Queensryche when Chris DeGarmo left.
Exactly
Degarmo wrote all the good songs. I agree. It was downhill when he left.
Hitman Hart Absolutely.
Gerald Knauss II not necessarily, Degarmo started to write shity songs in '87 Hear now the new frontier cd album sucks balls except the song sign of the times from that particular cd.
And that was because of the grung movement he made changes and the stupid band also follow changes along with Geoff Tate's singing ego, after that is history.
***** singing ego, after that it's history Geoff Tate cannot sing like back in 1,987.
Even his speaking voice is so beautiful
TONS of wonderful resonance in his voice
I agree with you
If only his inside would be beautiful.
Read the revealing article "QUEENSRŸCHE Guitarist: GEOFF TATE Spat In My Face, Punched Me And Called Me A 'Pussy'
July 11, 2012. "
So much behind the scenes drama made by the Tates. Very ugly.
It is fantastic that Queensrÿche found new and better life now.
@@franknada8235 how do you know Tate spat in band mates face etc..... What is the proof?
Geoff Tate is Queensryche. They need him back. They're nothing without him.
They are a joke without Geoff
@@happymofo Chris DeGarmo matters just as much
I'm sorry to disappoint you but DeGarmo is QR himself... He wrote the majority of the music and lyrics that are worth anything. Sure Tate has the voice, but without DeGarmo... No..
Splits Happen... BOTH SIDES Should Form New Bands With New Names.. Leave "CLASSIC RYCHE" Alone...
Dude, that’s just not how it works with “brands” and the like. Whether we like it or not, there’s a lot of money in a “brand” like queensryche. If there wasn’t, you wouldn’t always be seeing these sorts of legal battles when bands split. Is is a good thing? Absolutely not...but its reality, unfortunately
100% agreed! There is no Queensryche without Geoff. Totally agreed and my thinking exactly they should move on and form new band names. Same with Alice in Chains. You cannot have Alice in Chains without Layne.
Wouldn't it be great if Chris and Geoff got back together... the ULTIMATE reunion! 🤘
Yes, but I think there was a reason why Chris ran away and never looked back 😔
@@alfredochavezv he got tired of all the drama an in-fighting. From what I hear he is a pilot now.
Tate is a man of grace. His voice is one in 100 million. Everything is complicated with a lot of working parts but you can't deny his legacy with the band . . . because of him there would be no Queensryche. No real legacy.
I agree. They LITERALLY made it big because he said yes to singing Queen of the Reich. I know there are two sides to every story but no matter how talented the other musicians were... Geoff's voice is what put them over the top and got them noticed.
Hearing his speaking voice as deep as it sounds its hard to believe Tate is able to reach those ear piercing highs.
He has a vocal range of 5 octaves. Not many singers have this ability. 😊
Jaime Vendera, just check his theory out. It'll explain this.
His voice is one in one hundred million. Like a rare gemstone diamond.
He's technically a baritone, but with a ridiculous upper register. Chris Cornell was another great example.
I saw Geoff Tate last night in Falls Church Va. One of the best concerts I have ever seen. He did the entire Mindcrime album for the 25 year anniversary. Awesome awesome show.
If only all bands could get along like the Premium Band of RUSH ! Over 42 years together and still touring, making albums and most importantly, having fun doing it ! Greed and big ego's will ruin a band every time ! It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it !
Exactly. Rush and The Rolling Stones are smart enough to know they are better together then apart.
You are 100 percent right on!
Lol Rush sucked
@@officerccarpetcare9117 Lol. They suck? Ok. They are incredibly successful if you don't happen to like their incredibly complex and creative music, that is your choice but to say they suck is silly. Are you 11 years old?
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One of the top 10 albums ever put to vinyl was "Operation Mindcrime", which was Tates baby. They then put out "Operation Mindcrime II AFTER Degarmo, another example of Tates talent, and that album was nothing short of a masterpiece. Tate is Queensryche in my opinion and always will be.
Have you heard the vinyl of Op Mindcrime? To me, most vinyls by the mid 80’s were too digitalized and didn’t have the crisp warmth that vinyl should have
I've always thought Empire was purdy fookin good as well, I'll never forget, hopefully when I was working for Eddie debartolo on the tacoma mall doing seismic upgrades for all teh stores HVAC units.. to get up to the roof we had to go through a roof access hatch at the music store there at the mall, and right by the ladder on the wall going up they had that calendar that counted down the days till Empires release, dunno how many times I knocked it over bringing tools and what not up to the roof, they'd set it right back in the same place.. it said "XX more days till Empire" August 20 1990 ... I bought it when it was released, cassette, wore it out, fixed it wore it out again, fixed it, dunno where it ended up? ina bag maybe brian got them? good times, good year... aside from the corkwad stealing my Celica out the parking lot had the rockford fosgate system I installed myself in it.. about $5k worth.. arsehat, hope your arse is still getting stretched out in prison dickweed!
@@gaetano5669 how could vinyl sound "digitalized"? vinyl always was, is and will be analog sounding. perhaps overall recording quality changed by 86' b/c mass pressing of a number of titles were production implemented. but the crisp warmth you're talking about is obtainable on any record by accurately tweaking your player or stereo rack's eq.
@@zoltan2k6 in modern records when I’d compare to a CD, I often could not tell the difference.
Tell you what, I’ll do another side by side of 20 different bands of whom I own vinyl that was print over the last decade vs their CD and we’ll meet back in a year. Deal?
@@gaetano5669sure, you can do whatever you want. im a soundboard guy for multiple decades & grew up in the 80s. you mentioned the 80s in your original comment so thats what i was going by. 4 decades ago, as in the 50 thru 70s, vinyl was essentially made the same way & the mastering soundstage was identical. i didnt notice anything digital sounding in the records i listened to thru 89, even up till 92. there were always plenty pops, pings, an emphasis of mids & some bass with a de-emphasis of highs ( ie the "warm" non digital thing), & other "organic" effects ppl who are obsessed with lps, girate over. if you want to talk modern, i can say without a doubt the vinyl produced now is made in a commercially expedient manufacturing process which may lend itself to a cd like soundstage & sound no different than one.
remember vinyl coming back now & within the last decade is not designed to sway the general public of the last 2 generations to media based music.they are hopelessly hooked on computer generated sound & streaming services, minimalist bluetooth speakers & no comprehension of real 2.1 & 5.1 hifi stereo...the days of huge tower speakers & the value of physical media. vinyl now is there to appease & profit off of a relatively small group of nostalgics ( you & i included) who see music as way better in an antiquated format.
I am glad I got to see them a bunch of times in their early years. What a wonderful band they were when they all worked together. I agree things started to go downhill after DeGarmo left. But I saw them on Operation Mindcrime II tour and they put on a terrific show with a great set of all favorites. IMO Tate should get the name because his voice is just SO unmistakably beautiful. He IS Queensryche. Jackson, Rockenfield, and Wilton should just take a name from the Queensryche catalog and go their own way. I really don't care who was a jerk. That's just MY Opinion.
Totally agree. His voice is one in one hundred million. But all things rise and fall. They had a captured audience for a long time. Even now people are discovering their talent with most of the talent coming from Tate's voice.
He didn’t start the band.
@@downboys Steve Perry didn't start Journey, either, but he's the voice of that band.
@SealofPerfection And couldn't sing the songs worth shit today...what are you going to do...tune down an octave or two? The stupid Perry fanatics that think he could step in and sing like he did forty years ago are crazy! As far as musicianship, their first three albums were faaaaaaaar superior to anything done with Perry...three minute bubbke gum tunes, with a gem every now and again. Perry fired two of the best drummers in rock history, Dunbar and Smith, and put some fat putz on drums to sound like a drum machine on Raised on Radio. That album sucked giant turds! When Dunbar was fired by Perry, and Rolie left Journey went to shit! Wasting Schon's takent in crap!
one of the Best vocalist of any band ever
Everyone forgets about Chris DeGarmo, I find him so underrated.. even when it comes to saying who "was" Queensryche. Maybe it was the best call for DeGarmo to decide to leave. . .
Chris was the arranger, composer, conceptual driving force behind the band. When they lost him, it just wasn't the same for me. Him and Geoff had that chemistry for years, and it will never be duplicated.
"Conceptual driving force" I'm honestly not sure about this statement as you have to consider the concept behind Mindcrime was entirely Geoff as was the loose concept behind Promised Land. Empire and HitNF were Chris' babies.
Also I'm not sure where you get that he was the soul arranger. I DO believe he was likely the middleman. The person who would communicate and translate Geoff's ideas to the rest of the band in a way they could relate to.
I don't know how anyone could overlook DeGarmo. Both he and Wilton were one of the most awesome guitar combinations in rock history.
He was focused on being a pilot as his passion was flying
To be honest, Queensryche was never really the same without Chris DeGarmo. I did see Queensryche in ~2004-5? Was the Fates Warning/Dream Theater gig. It appeared nobody in QR gave a sht...except Geoff Tate. I suspected something was up with the band, but Tate tried to give the every best show possible. Wilton never looked up from his fabulous hair and fretboard. Until I find out different I am siding with Tate.
***** Their last great album was Promised Land. I agree with the rest.
No memorable vocal performances?? Have you even listened to the album?? Someone Else, Lady Jane, the title track, Out of Mind?
Promised Land was arguably their prog pinnacle. It's not quite as easy to "get" which is probably why you believe as you do but it's a musical masterpiece. Sorry for responding to a two year old comment.
Pedro Reinaldo You're forgetting the bass. Go back and listen to Promise Land again, and listen to how much the bass is at the forefront of most the songs. Incredible in '94. I agree its not a Rage for Order or Operation Mindcrime, but its still good...especoally Eddie's bass licks.
And I thought that was a shitty record. LOL
For me their last Great record was "Operation : Mindcrime", with a few decent songs around the time of "Empire".
Empire had hope for the future of society
Promised Land was the cold,hard , bitch slap of reality calling.
Without the voice of Geoff Tate Queensryche is dead. His voice is queesryche and without him they will never make it. You are a talent and an inspiration Geoff and none of your past thirty years were in vain.
Geoff Tate is as much a total class act as his voice is incredible.
I don't care what he did or may have did, Geoff Tate is the reason Queensryche sold albums. His voice is one of the best all time. Especially on albums like the Warning.
You have to have a vehicle for virtuosity.
The songs. Without goid sings, you are just another good voice.
Jeff is a good Vocalist and that is all the credit that I will give him.
Back in 1990 when I met Queensryche, I only met Scott, Eddie, Michael and Chris. These guys were gentlemen and thankful and considerate to all the people. Jeff on the other hand, stormed thru everyone, went to the Prevost Tour Buss and slammed the Door. On his way to the Tour Bus, Jeff refused to Autograph anything and did not want his picture to be taken with anyone. That alone pissed me off. Back in 1990, Queensryche has never played a show in Duluth, MN., so first impressions do go a long way with a lot of people. I have met a lot of great Musicians during my Life (Motley Crue, Firehouse, Winger, Cinderella, Faster Pussycat, Poison, KISS, Sammy Hagar, Godsmack, Warrant, Dokken, Whitesnake, ZZ Top, Tesla, Trixter, Metallica and Ozzy just to name a few) and I fully understand that People, regardless of status, do have bad days. Having fame and fortune cane be overwhelming at times, but what Jeff did and how he treated people, was completely rude, unprofessional and completely disrespectful. When you are in the Music Industry, you are to take your Fans seriously and show them respect and gratitude.
Here we are 31 years later and I remember that day, like it was yesterday. What a complete disappointment and I still feel sorry for those people who wanted something so simple, such as a Autograph, or even a picture.
never knew they split, HE is the core of the band, one of the best ever, I will look to his solo stuff.
KEEP GOING GEOFF TATE....YOU KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT YOU.... I SEEN YOU AT SELLERSVILLE ,PA. & METT YOU BACK STAGE...THANKS FOR YOU TOURING.....WISHING YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Great guy with a big legacy and a very honest point of view
"honest point of view", as he lies on camera about what happened.
Both Geoff and Chris are the epitome of class!
Yeah it takes real class to spit on and beat your band members! He is a douchebag!
Chris DeGarmo got out a long while back and for most fans, he was the band! Maybe there's something in that
Agreed, Chris DeGarmo made Queensryche a metal band with musical ingenuity and class both in lyrics and composition.
Take heart Geoff. Your world class music/vocals with Queensryche (especially the earlier stuff) influenced many musicians and metal fans worldwide, and cemented Queensryche as one of the all time GREATS of the genre for now, and years to come! THANK YOU for all the years of tour de force metal music, and for giving me immeasurable ecstatic listening pleasure!
Whatever Queensryche is now, they should remember, pay homage to and be thankful for what Queensryche was. Geoff Tate will always be blessed with that voice and he can hire session musicians or tribute bands to play exactly like those other fools in the band.
I have listened to the Reich since day one, this is a sad moment in music histry. Geof leaving/getting kicked out is the end of the Reich. His lyrics and music is what made and fueled their success. I will miss the music and message they as a whole sent. That being said.....I look forward to Geof's new music.
No tate.
No Queensryche
Really Queensryche lost a ton of steam after DeGarmo left. Tate leaving was the nail in the coffin.
@@SuperSparrow45 Chris leaving was it
Tate is Queensryche. His vocals and mind are amazing.
i give praise and blessings to all the members of Queensryche for whatever they do.they all got talent...whether together or apart.I think its sad for us to judge or take sides in their personal matters as a band.They spent 30 years together....more than most people spend married nowdays....so be glad they're still around people and give their solo work a chance to listen to.
Queensryche is and was TATE and DeGARMO. The rest of the band is what they are today and always were - competent but uninspiring. Like INXS without Michael Hutchence. Boring.
Well put
Seen Geoff do the operation mindcrime album live 2 weeks ago.He never sounded better.And the band was great.Geoff Tate is the man👍
Exactly
Preach brother
@@vallangaard when you find a comment saying what you were going to say and then another comment saying what you're going to say about the first comment... 😂
One of my most memorable head banging days in the 80's was working my way to the front of the crowd at the legendary Santa Monica Civic to get a 1x fist bump from Tate (opening for Yngwie Malmsteem). I was beyond stoked after pulling it off. I was the first in my So Cal neighborhood to find QR and at 54, certainly one of the last to still enjoy them as much or more as I did then. TY original QR for the countless hours of entertainment and those still to come. ✌🏼
Mr Tate you're awesome!!! I miss the '90s and the late '80s jammed out Lakeland Civic center all them times, be cool brother...
Lakeland civic center dam I saw a lot of great music there 80s 90s
Geoff Tate's voice is one of the greatest sounds in music and this band without tate is empty. There are certain talents that can't be replaced you can put someone in the spot but it still is lacking. I would rather stay home and listen to the old albums than go see the band without tate
Luv you Geoff Tate ......keep the fire going!!!!!! And keep those vocals healthy......your an Icon
Geoff Tate and Chris DeGarmo were always classic Queensryche to me. The idea of the 3 current band members kicking Tate to the curb and assuming the name is like Ronnie Wood and Charlie Watts kicking Mick Jagger and Keith Richards out of the Rolling Stones. What do they really hope to achieve?
Queensryche is Tate Degarmo, Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield . End of.
your damn right , you know what the fucks up in the world ,😎😎
AMEN
my cousin taught digarmo how to fly a plane, they are still friends to this day
@@kennethpeck7501 Lucky! He's my long lost love!
Without Tate, ego or no ego, there's no Ryche without him. Ask any fan, he's basically the brand.
Rage For Order, that is some of the best of the best, I don't care about personalities or insider news, just great tunes. Operation Mindcrime was one of the best.
The whisper. \m/
Operation mindcrime is one of mankinds greatest achievements
@@VulgrimOfficial the lyrics on that album are way ahead of their time. Who would’ve ever thought that the lyrics would be synonymous with what’s going on in the world today. But I’m in total agreement. Mindcrime is an excellent album.
@@ARod-br2ui indeed, lyrically this turns out to be some sort of Nostradamus move. Grand Album! Good taste Bro ;)
The Warning is a masterpiece 🔊🔊
one of the best singers ever
Hes one of the worlds best singers
it wont be the same
So sorry the band is broken up, they made some of the best metal music of my youth!! Saw them when they were "The Mob" playing in Bellevue and was so blown away when they came out with the 1sr ep that had "The. Lady Wore Black" on it!! Good times! And the rest is history of course with the many killer albums to follow!! Hope they all continue to pursue their musical interests no matter what name they do it under, who knows what could happen- lightening may strike twice!!
You should check out their new releases with Todd Latorre! He's a worthy singer to fill that role and he's got that metal heart which QR needed. The new stuff is the way they used to be.
my bf at the time used to chill and drink with Scott Weiland and a few of their close friends. Scott interestingly enough didn't really like talking about his own music as opposed to other bands, bands that he praised and bands that he flat out said were sh*t. He just happened to bring up Geoff, he said that he didn't know Geoff and never met the guy but that he had an amazing voice and he felt that he was a seriously underrated musician. He said the band f*cked up bcuz of poor marketing and management. I wonder if Scott was referring to his wife (Geoff's) since she was pretty much running the show at the time before the band fired her and Geoff. It's a he said, she said situation. RIP Scott 🤘
Its really effed up how they pushed Tate out. One of the reasons WHY the band mates did that (IMHO) was for writing credits and publishing credits. Tate was the driving force behind the craftmanship of Queensryche, and a lot of times that bothers other bandmates. Publishing credits and rights goes a LONGGGGGGG way in the music industry.
We went to See Geoff Tate last Saturday Night. His Band Played Flawlessly, and Geoff Hit all the notes perfectly! The concert was sold out! In fact, all Geoff Tate's Concerts are selling out. We were not there when the problems with the band started and we really don't know the whole story. What I can say is I feel really really sad about the split, and I hope things can work out. We met Geoff and the Band after the show, and they are a Class Act. Everyone was very nice!
Glad I saw Queensryche with Geoff Tate. I won't see them again without him.
Narcissism - originated with Narcissus in Greek mythology who fell in love with his own image reflected in a pool of water. Derives from arrogant pride.
He doesn't seem narcissistic.
Love his voice and his attitude. To hell with the other guys TATE WAS THE BAND ! he can get anyone to beat on a drum and play a stupid guitar. Just like all the greats. Elvis, Roy, cash. ALL are the band and can do it without the drama and the BS. Just grab some guys and play buddy we love you !
Without his voice there is no Queensryche 💗
I am honestly grateful, as a long time fan, that Geoff was the one given the rights, so to speak, with being the one to continue singing the songs. Absolutely no one can sing Any Queensryche song like him 🤘🏼❤️
'The Warning' is a metal masterpiece.
Geoff Tate is the VOICE of Queensryche and always will be! His new Queensryche will kill with Sarzo on bass and Simon Sright on drums!
Never heard Geoff take any responsibility for what happened. This is disappointing. He was pissed they voted and fired his wife. It was all down hill from there. Just add alcohol.
Yes someone get's it. He is the reason they broke up, he thought he was the one and only one. yes he was good but not a god like he thought he was. and I just watched a video of Silent Lucidity, It sucked. nothing like before.
Based on the LONG story told by the other band members, Geoff was a narcissist's narcissist! He and his wife Susan gradually took over control of the entire band in the 90s and 2000s, making ALL the decisions on every aspect of Queensryche, from songwriting, touring, merchandising, legal decisions, etc etc. Supposedly Geoff and Susan froze everyone out, and didnt allow any input into the direction the band was heading. He REFUSED to sing most of their classic songs on tour, focusing only on newer, less popular material.
Any time the other bandmates tried to stand up to him or his wife on any of their totalitarian decisions, Geoff would give them the ultimatum "do what we say, or ill quit the band".
Then Geoff sold the rights to the Operation Mindcrime concept for a movie, but, as usual, he did it without telling the band. Worse yet, he had set it up so that he alone profited from it, even though it should've been split equally 4 ways.
Thats only a few examples, and there are many, many more. Some even worse.
@@ralphedds1 VOTED THE 12TH BEST METAL VOCALIST EVER.....NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY......
And spitting on other band members is disgusting, if what I read was correct, even during concerts.
Geoff!!, he was the leader indeed. . . . the others flourished while he was in charge.... after that, they all went down, even the Leader....
They accepted his leadership because he was business saavy.... BUT, when they all hit certain age, their complexes started to burn deeper and...
Nothing more depressive than a No-Leader thinking he can be better than the true leader, and try to take control just because, no more reason than just because.
Definitively Geoff at one moment should've hired a "Jerry McGuire" or just beat the $h1t physically out of them to submit them and regain the machine's control... but I guess he did just that for about 30 years until, that breaking day, he must have gotten tired (understandable, he is no 20 anymore...)
Some of these newer bands should take lessons from him. That is how it is fucking done guys! Queensryche will forever live on in us old school metalheads hearts. Can’t imagine not having them
Still a beautiful man and just goes to show you he has class and doesn't go around calling names and talking trash.
right on.. a real man, not like the dumb low IQ idiots he was saddled with post Chris
No he already did worse! He is a coward!
Still no matter what my favorite band and you as an artist, vocalist..
We know you definitely have poured your heart into everything it wasn't Everything that your music has brought to many of us, still stands true to this day ❤
Even over 25 years later..
and that is definitely love, ❤
I see myself in you, parallel lives..
Winding at light speed through time...
I'm sure you'll never read this but there are so many that cherish everything about you, it's okay to be embarrassed but try to remember you have educated us for many years before,, we just weren't awake yet. Now we are though and we are still sharing your way of reaching us to SPEAK ❤
From the story telling style lyrics and the political and in depth themes of who I remember Queensryche to be, and Geoff's amazing voice, I think any fan should just remember the great music, the great time period and realize the group was what it was when it was, not now and not in the future will they duplicate who they were..either side. Geoff shoulda went to broadway and did his version of The Phantom of The Opera lol..yes..his voice was that awesome!
I agree whole heartedly-they were the team the made the music sound like it did. Not the the other members of QR were not all part of the sound-but if DGarmo didn't write such profound lyrics and if Tate didn't sing those lyrics then you wouldn't really have QR. So I think that it is a matter of both needing to be a part of the band in order to complete the sound/music!
"Too Late To Take A Chance Again, It's Over"
We support you Geoff Tate!!
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
The guitars, the voice, the amazing beats, it simply rocked and created a certain state of mind, a nirvana of thought and feeling that reached into the core of your imagination and soul. Queensryche will live on as long as people listen to music. They are timeless. Queensryche 2.0 has some of the musical chemistry. It was a struggle for me to adjust to the band without jeff tate and the voice did not fit the new guys face. Due to my love of the Tate years, i find myself wanting more. Therefore, i keep hoping Queensryche 2.0 will deliver me something i can love. The new rebel yell is decent. It will take me some time to dig the other stuff although the sound is pretty good, better than some of the other stuff since jeff tate left. Looking forward to Tates new recordings.
At least we have those amazing albums to listen to.
Makes the fact that Rush has been the same for almost 40 yrs seem all the more amazing. I loved Queensryche back in the day, but they kind of lost me after Promised Land. They are still one of my favorite bands. Maybe someday they can put their ego's aside and they can all get back together Geoff and Chris Degarmo.
WITHOUT YOU JOINING "QUEENSRYCHE" THIS BAND WOULD OF WENT NO WHERE !! THATS A FACT!
There is no possible way you could state that as a fact, just an unknown.
I disagree they're really good musicians yes we wouldn't have queensryce but hey look when Dave got kicked out if Metallica Dave kicked ass started his own band didn't become as famous but he definitely made better music now that's a fact
Geoff tate is what made queensryche. His vocals were unique, unlike anyone else. hopefully they resolve this with eloquence instead of anger🙄
Geoff Tate was the band, that is why they were so good, the other band members were good also, but Geoff Tate was pretty much Queensryche
He was a good singer but the real man that was Queensryche was Chris DeGarmo.
Yeah it was some time after Promised Land
Geoff had alot to do with it, but is a band effort, and a good singer is part of it, that was "Geoff Tate" and without "Chriss Degarmo" a lot of those Queensryche hits would not exist. Tate is a lyricist not a composer, he can write songs but is not in him.
+Dana W To replace Chris with KG was a very bad move. It was like trying to replace a Bentley with a John Deere tractor! Anyway QR were already going downhill big time. Hear In The Now Frontier was released before Chris left, actually he was the priary force behind that album, and it was a pseudo-grunge turkey…
+Metalgears1968 finally someone with a non judgmental answer I agree 100% once Chris left it just seemed like a matter of time before it all fell apart and I have to agree with Hitman1m1 once the split happened both sides should have made new groups, because what both sides call Queensryche today is just embarrassing.
Geoff and Chris are Queensryche. I agree that Queensryche were not the same after Chris left, but you have to keep in mind that Geoff is one of the greatest singers of all time, and he displayed the most technical singing in rock history and that was what made Queensryche special, its what made them stand out.
Comes across as an intelligent and civil guy.
I never understood why Chris left the way he did. Nowadays I'm starting to believe he was running away to keep whatever was left of his sanity and self-respect for his work in the band and maybe whatever image he had left of his band mates
I am looking forward to hearing Geoff Tate with the solid rhythm section that Simon Wright and Rudy Sarzo will provide.
I saw Ryche open for Priest and Geoff Tate was so humble and so gracious! He repeatedly praised Rob Halford and referred to him as the legend and his band looked miffed lol. A narcissist would never offer that kind of praise publicly... the narcissists are the ones that were feeling less than all because Geoff was being cool...
I know fanboys are all degarmo this and degarmo that and I'm a fan of degarmo on guitar but without Geoff, degarmo is just another axe slinger and he ain't Eddie Van Halen or Randy rhoads or Tony Iommi... without Geoff Tate there would've been no Queensryche.
Queensryche is gone. It started falling apart when DeGarmo left. I think Chris was the "glue" that was holding the band together. Each member is awesome, in their own right... but only together are they Queensryche. Amazing chemistry between them. One of those times where the sum is greater than all the parts.
he is the band they have no chance without his voice
Basically he spoke a lot without saying a thing. Personally I'd love to continue to listen to their music.
The smartest guy in the room was Chris DeGarmo. He saw the writing on the wall, and left the band at its peak to focus on his other passion (flying). The band never recovered and the dysfunction continues to this day.
Like Gregg Rolie and Journey...they went to three minute bubble gum crrap after he left. Wasting Schon's talent on crap. They got rich, but the music went to crap!
OK kids, there comes a time in almost every band where people can not work with each other due to creative differences. Who was the one snatching peoples Iphones to keep them from taking video? Who was the one telling people in the crowd that they sucked? Take a good listen to Frequency Unknown and the namesake disc released by those who have been the writing core of Queensryche since the departure of Chris Degarmo. I normally do not chime in on things like this but seriously people..... take a break from whatever your world is and breathe in a little reality, if someone can be fired from a band and replaced do you truly think thay had that much of a stake in the brand name from the beginning? if you truly know the history of the band, you know Geoff was a hired gun for the recording of the original EP and had no real interest in staying with the band until a major label deal came along. Yes Geoff ONCE had powerful vocals but his style and direction have changed. The fight for the brand name is all about the ease of marketability of new product. Why should one person have control of it when there are 3 other lifelong, before the introduction of Tate, members still dedicated to the project. For F&#K$ sake people, quit believing the spin of whatever side you choose to takein this situation and look at the facts, This is politics plain and simple, believe whatever side gives the answers that sound best to you instead of doing the research and making your own decision..... that is why the ENTIRE PLANET IS SCREWED, because people believe in the answers handed to them instead of facts and their own point of view. Keep letting everything be handed to you on a sliver platter in false idolatry and you will be nothing more then Soylent Green
I couldn't agree more...
I agree with your comment on all levels. It's not only about Queensrÿche BUT for the rest of the world...countries, people, politicians etc.
Very well said even years after.
Wise words
Yep...just like all the Steve Perry Nuts that think he can come back and sing Journey songs like he did forty years ago....stupid....you would have to tune down an octave or two. Tate HAD a virtuoso voice, and still a good voice, but NO ONE can hit notes they did twenty or thirty years ago...sorry, those are the facts...he ain't what he once was. The only rock singer I have heard that was a virtuoso, (voice and guitar) that has been totally honest about it is Rik Emmett. He used to be abke to hit F#s every night with ease, 14th fret on 1st string of a guitar, but freely admits that before he stopped touring had to tune down an octave....nobody's voice stay 25 forever!
Queensryche will never be the same without Geoff Tate. Love him or hate him, I still like him by the way and if you don't frankly I don't give a damn, his voice practically carried the band in my opinioin.
jeff you are queensryche so keep on rocking love the new band sonds real good say you in Houston house of Blues. you killed it brother see u win u come back.
+Tony Lewis : )
***** GEOFF!!! a Metal God
actually GEOFF'S birth name is Jeffrey Wayne Tate
Nothing is forever especially when egos are involved , be proud of your legacy let it rest Queensryke is over we as fans still have the music and memories . 🙏
Still a Handsome man, I love his voice ❤️
Will always follow Geoff. Ryche is nothing without he and Chris.
Chris was the glue it ended when he left
DeGarmo's departure to Queensryche was what Steve Clark's death was to Def Leppard. Neither band has been the same since losing an indispensable member who was both an awesome guitarist and songwriter.
...and disregard the fact that the majority of the band kicked "him" out. Numbers don't lie. It must have been Unanimous, minus ONE!
www.blabbermouth.net/news/queensr-che-guitarist-geoff-tate-spat-in-my-face-punched-me-and-called-me-a-pussy/
This explains it
Leave the past behind, dear Geoff! And look out for the future, with all the gifts the past brought to you! I hope my English is good enough to understand... I loved the young appearance in the past - and now as we all grew older I still love your appearance and what you say about live! It's so true.
I'm not defending anyone but I'm glad I could listen to his side of the story. I wish he'd leave the name of Queensryche and move on. Although I cannot think of the banf without all of them.
THANKS GEOFF TATE FOR YOUR EXTRAORDINARY VOICE AND YOUR VISION. YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN .........
He's not dead. Great voice, definitely, but his "vision" is terrible. His vision has been most of the stuff that came after Empire (which has been steadily going downhill). Before that it was more of a collaborative effort. His "vision" has been to try as hard as possible to get away from the sound and style that made them popular.
I met Geoff at a meet and greet (one that cost me 50 bucks, by the way...), and I can tell you this: he is a jerk. I'm a vocalist and he is my biggest inspiration. I told him this when I met him and he stared at me for a second and then told me "thanks, I really appreciate that" in the most forced and uncaring way possible. He specifically seated himself in the middle as to make it nearly impossible to get a picture with him. He signed my Warning album, and I could see him scowl a bit as he scribbled his name across the front. Not even a smile the whole time. The man has just become an arrogant, self absorbed megalomaniac who has no respect for his fans.
while what you describe could very well be true, we dont know exactly how ypu were acting and what you said.. maybe you came off sideways, or he thought you were coming sideways. a lot of rockers (especially replaced) rockers who become famous and meets lots of fans all the times and hear the same thing all the time just dont care anymore, theyre people to and they get sick of it. chances are he was only doing meet and greet because the record company and promoters made him
Id have spit on you your ingrate.. no other singer of tates ilk even do meet and greets as hes fucking exhausted... what did you want Tate to do? blow you?... I know Geoff and hes a great guy and always has been
Geoff spitting on the other members was career suicide. No matter what the conflict is resorting to degradation like spitting is unacceptable.
Jordan, I have to agree with you. In the early 80's just before the Warning album came out I was at a club to see TKO and all the Queensryche members where there. I meet Chris, Eddie , Scott and Geoff. Chris and Eddie took a couple of minutes to talk to me and Scott sat down at a table next to us. My friend said that it was Chris and I said no it's the drummer Scott, then Scott turned to me and shook my hand and said your right I'm the drummer. Later in between sets I saw Geoff standing there and wanted to tell him I can't wait for their album to be released and he said he didn't have time for me, I was ok with that but the way he said it was like he was all high and almighty. Please remember this was before they become real big.
Just a fan here but back in the day I too had the thought that these seemed to get along very well and would stick together. Well things happen and people change. I wish all of the band the best of luck! You guys are still awesome!✨🤘✨
Chris DeGarmo is Queensryche. And will always be.
I don't think so. Without that giant voice that is Geoff Tate, Chris DeGarmo wouldn't be where he is now doll.
Chris wrote all this songs. Without songs Tate would be a lounge act, wait a minute.... He IS a lounge act.
Are you shittin' me?
Puertecitos68 Chris Degarmo is a commercial pilot now.
lol yeah right. Queensryche are doing just fine in the year 2016 with Todd. Geoff Tate has done nothing relevant to anything since leaving the band.
I'm 53 and I'm a fan of theirs(his) from the get-go in the early 1980's!...I've seen them them twice- once opening up for Ozzy on his Ultimate Sin tour and once in Geoff's freakin' awesome Operation Mindcrime (which is my favorite concert besides Soundgarden's last tour) NO ONE in Rock can match Tate's voice! I'm on his side and it's a shame how the other mates ganged up on him, I understand that both parties are responsible for their actions but wtf happened to getting along with each other and keeping the fans happy?-(it's a rhetorical question but I am a bit steamed!) He is trained in operatic style that's what sets him apart from the rest!
Saw his solo tour here in San Antonio a few months ago and my wife and I were just frickin' blown away! Queens... who??? Sorry, there's no Queensryche without Geoff!
I'm willing to bet there's plenty of blame to go around...
Geoff Tate was, is and always will be Queensryche.
The rest of the band are interchangeable and replaceable....
Geoff is not.
🥶 TRUTH
I seen the Tour with Metallica in the 80s. I wouldn't go see the queensryche of today. I've seen alot of bands and I consider Geoff Tate one of the best vocalists I've seen so far.
There is no Queensryche without Geoff Tate, just like there is no Styx without Dennis DeYoung.