Why I Still Love The Ableton Push 2 In 2024 Hip Hop Workflow Tips - NervousCook$

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  • @aloharay
    @aloharay 2 месяца назад +18

    I agree with all your points. Sold my Push 2 a couple years ago, I miss it. I do not need portability of Push 3, or its price. I tried the Move and it reminded me of how I liked the Push 2. Returning the Move, just bought a used Push 2 again.

    • @neosean9984
      @neosean9984 Месяц назад +1

      I've had mine for about 6 months now, and I wish I had it 15 years ago. I'm only a hobbyist so I couldn't justify the original price or price of the 3. Found a great second hand deal, and I've never been more excited about something. Yes, there's lots to learn but entry with flow is so easy to walk into! I was thinking I would feel it was daunting. After my first day with it... I was just running with it and learning a little something new everytime. Again, I wish to hell I had this long ago. ;)

    • @gingermark
      @gingermark 18 дней назад

      @@neosean9984me too mate. Two months in and it’s literally the best thing I’ve ever bought. I bought the Move first and then got a great deal on the Push 2. I work 24 hour shifts and the Move is fantastic to take with me for the down time, then transfer it to the Push and flesh stuff out. Like you said, I wish i’d had this stuff 15 years ago.

    • @brawndothethirstmutilator9848
      @brawndothethirstmutilator9848 Час назад

      Do you ever use it to control external gear? I’m trying to decide between Push 2 and Digitone mk1.
      I work about equally with hardware and iOS apps. I know what the Digitone can do as a controller but can’t find a lot of examples of the Push 2 doing it. I’m wondering if Push would be the sweet spot to tie together other gear and iOS apps?

  • @christianwebb6048
    @christianwebb6048 3 месяца назад +17

    I'm still rocking a Push 1. It's crazy how fast you can knock out beats without even looking at the screen sometimes. Push is a slept on device in my opinion

    • @jeremymurray-wakefield8011
      @jeremymurray-wakefield8011 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah I never went beyond a 1. I really like the alphanumeric display and feel that when you need more than that, you can just flip the laptop open and look at the display there.

  • @BalaFromRoitown
    @BalaFromRoitown 24 дня назад +1

    Color coding the drums really makes sense. Never though about it but it helps navigate the step sequencer and midi visualization

  • @Lord_Mau_
    @Lord_Mau_ 2 месяца назад +2

    I’ve been messing with Ableton for a bit. It’s the one DAW that clicks for me coming from the MPC universe. I like the modern MPCs but they are expensive and even more expensive to repair (if you can find the parts). I was looking at the Push 3. But thank you showing me a functional but far less expensive option. Most of the sample based content on RUclips revolves around the MPC. It’s great to hear a different perspective.

  • @billpayer3745
    @billpayer3745 3 месяца назад +5

    Brilliant idea for changing the colours for the drum rack pads. It makes midi editing sooo much clearer. I'm definitely stealing that idea.
    I have toyed with getting a Push 3 for a while, but as youve said, the Push 3 standalone is a serious investment. So after not being convinced i need the MPE pads right now. What i did was get a long USB lead and i've set Ableton as a launch item in Mac OS. So as soon as my mac mini boots up. Ableton is automatically loaded and ready to go, which really gives me the standalone feeling.
    What i found accidentally the other week, is that you can open and save Ableton sets right from the Push 2 hardware! So it really does feel like a standalone experience.
    From memory in Live 12 with Push2:
    -Save and load projects using Shift + Session.
    -Select + Session.
    -New + Session creates a new project.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад +1

      @@billpayer3745 appreciate the tip. That’s a really good time saver! 👍👍

  • @MaxnniProg
    @MaxnniProg 2 месяца назад +5

    just got a push 2 and this was a really concise practical intro, cheers :)

  • @haro82
    @haro82 2 месяца назад +3

    I have to agree. I took a look at what push 3 offered and while it's great, for me and what I do, the push 2 still does the job.

  • @elizulie
    @elizulie 2 месяца назад +3

    this sold me, i think ill be grabbing a secondhand push 2. you did a wonderful job explaining the capabilities. thank you!

  • @jtrace-444
    @jtrace-444 3 месяца назад +4

    THIS is why We Subd. YOUR Channel!!!!!!... BRAVO 👏👏👏!!

  • @Dominant1mw
    @Dominant1mw Месяц назад +3

    Im definitely getting the Push 2 after watching this🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💯

  • @SONWU
    @SONWU 3 месяца назад +10

    Damn it…you made me regrett selling mine. Push 2 really makes sense as a centerpiece. Especially at these prices.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@SONWU yeah definitely a bargain now. 👍

  • @ZeroSenseGaming666
    @ZeroSenseGaming666 9 дней назад

    I use it with my Lenovo Legion go on the couch.
    Love that combo ❤
    Much more as only the Move

  • @sinetwo
    @sinetwo 2 месяца назад +1

    Dope. I'm dusting mine off tomorrow! Great overview

  • @edjefferson9175
    @edjefferson9175 2 месяца назад +1

    Cool you are brave enough to work on it. My back/side became sticky too. Removed the finish with denatured alcohol. Best to remove the bottom "shell" first to avoid leaks to the innards. TIP for anyone out there - get a piece of cardboard and poke the screws through as they are removed for a map of how to put it back together. There are various sizes.
    My PUSH 2 has a weird problem with velocity on some pads. The 2nd column from left, top 5 pads can not produce a velocity level less than 52. No matter how the pad dynamics are set, All other pads can play a value of 1. So I have to avoid those pads.
    I did take the entire thing apart to remove and clean the pad sensors and that unfortunately did not solve the issue. This is a daunting task not for the faint of heart. Putting it back together is a PITA!
    So I paid a lot for it new and it's worth very little. I do like the Ableton Push system so probably will re-invest in the 3. But not the "stand alone".

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz 2 месяца назад +2

    Never thought of picking one up til I saw this video.

  • @peabodyscientific2082
    @peabodyscientific2082 3 месяца назад +2

    This is the second video giving props to the Push 2 I've seen this week and I love to see it.
    If you don't need standalone, the 2 really is a crazy value right now and probably a better choice than the 3. I'm still totally in love with my 2, and it does everything so well I just can't see the need to get the 3.
    And your point about the flexibility of being connected to the software with the Push 2 and what that enables is spot on. Pair the 2 with your favorite midi keyboard and enjoy a powerful workstation workflow. It's dope.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@peabodyscientific2082 yes indeed! 👍

  • @forsale313
    @forsale313 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much for the demo. I grabbed a Push2 at the beginning of the Pandemic (everyone was selling stuff really cheap) then saw a Push 1 and grabbed it as well. So I have both of them and actually forgot I had them until I saw the thumbnail. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your uploads on the Push 2. Thanks again.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@forsale313 you’re welcome 👍

  • @bboygavin
    @bboygavin Месяц назад

    your flow is just so smooth, bringing me close r to my push every minute

  • @jeremymurray-wakefield8011
    @jeremymurray-wakefield8011 Месяц назад +1

    Couple of warnings though: Sticky rubber doesn’t really go away. My Push 1 is like Fly Paper these days and as such has dust stuck all over it. I’m likely to use lighter fluid or a safer alternative at some point to strip off the rubber entirely as it’s become really horrible.
    Secondly, encoders are not necessarily user replaceable even though it may look like they are. It depends on the construction of the PCB (which are not as simple as the good ol’ days). I tried replacing the encoders on a Behringer unit I had and the PCB pretty much melted into a mess under the soldering iron (I’ve never had that happen before).

  • @maikvanrossum
    @maikvanrossum 3 месяца назад +6

    Already liked it because of the title! We are pushed only the newest gear lately, where controllers like the Push 2 still have so much to offer. Same goes for the Digitakt, it’s like using the OG isn’t interesting anymore.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад +3

      @@maikvanrossum yeah, I think people tend to forget that most products are just that… products! Companies are still companies. Just because they sell music gear doesn’t mean they don’t want your money, and so the “new” thing is always promoted as better, but that is definitely not always the case. 🙂

    • @maikvanrossum
      @maikvanrossum 3 месяца назад +2

      @@nervouscooks well, my Push 2 is still top-notch 👌🏻 And I’m also glad that Ableton is still actively supporting it. With the latest releases of Live 12 it even got some feature updates 👍🏻 Hopefully they eventually will release a Push 3 Controller-only version, so with the sound card as an expansion, just like the current upgrade path to stand-alone. And yes, the stand-alone seems to get better… so maybe… but until then, Push 2 it is 😉

  • @spiralgrooves1
    @spiralgrooves1 Месяц назад

    Got a refurbed Push 2 a month ago and this video in all its unedited glory is goddamn amazing man!

  • @paulkennedy6641
    @paulkennedy6641 3 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic walk-through - I learnt a ton - thanks v much.

  • @Jam_Bon
    @Jam_Bon Месяц назад +1

    Loving your videos man, bought the Move recently and am loving it. But also have a Push 2 and this video is really making me want to put more time into it! Nice one 🙏

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  Месяц назад +1

      @@Jam_Bon yeah I have a Move and it’s great but the Push is a step above in terms of features. Love the Move though for its pick up and play workflow. Good to have choices 👍

    • @Jam_Bon
      @Jam_Bon Месяц назад

      @ have to say I haven’t jelled with the Push at all, but it’s a lack of learning it mostly. The Move is far more suited to my brain for some reason haha. And I love the ease of automation/resampling. And the limitations are great for me haha. I need them. But both will be used going forward.
      Hoping to get into a rhythm of producing through the winter while travelling using the move and a mobile set up. Then come home in the new year and finish things off in the studio. Hopefully works out and can just keep going with it each year!

  • @SlavaChrome
    @SlavaChrome Месяц назад +1

    One suggestion, when you manually chopping sample parts, you don’t need to push every next pad. You can push any! ;) Even the first one. Chops will be spread anyway

  • @travisvotour3159
    @travisvotour3159 2 месяца назад

    I got a mint condition used push 2 from Long & McQuade for 299.99 about two years ago- they now are selling for 500-800 for a used push 2.
    Was so impressed ableton is still supporting the Push 2 that I finally bit the bullet to get Ableton Suite 12. Absolutely love the workflow.
    I am an MPC guy but I find myself reaching for my push more often then I thought I would.

  • @remyvegamedia
    @remyvegamedia 3 месяца назад +1

    Body And Soul 25:39 Hit my nostalgia bone with that one. Took me back to my early piano lessons for jazz.
    Aside from that, I'm a huge fan of Push 2. I make beats for rappers pretty frequently and the whole start of my process 90% of the time is almost strictly on the Push with my keys running into Ableton to develop my parts. It really does make it feel damn near like standalone hardware.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад +1

      @@remyvegamedia wish I knew how to play piano! 👍

    • @remyvegamedia
      @remyvegamedia 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nervouscooks Ay man I didn't start til age 26 and now I live strictly off of my piano skills, whether it's teaching or performing. Never too late to start learning, I truly believe that! Keep up your good work man.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад +1

      @@remyvegamedia that’s awesome! You know what they say about enjoying your work. I really should invest the time as it would help my craft. 👍🙂

  • @vinylarchaeologist
    @vinylarchaeologist Месяц назад

    great video! if next time you want to make sure google doesn't grab your monetisation, make sure to only play a sample for a short time - a few seconds, no more. you CAN play it as often as you want, just make sure it's not a continuous chunk. I recognised gerry mulligan's baritone from the first second, probably faster than google, haha.

  • @BoopPOPO
    @BoopPOPO 3 месяца назад +2

    I dream of a tilt screen push where the knobs are under the screen. Love push put it’s so unergonomic and strains on a desk

    • @aloharay
      @aloharay 2 месяца назад

      I use a metal stand meant for laptops from Amazon that provides a solid but adjustable tilt for the Push 2 or my Mashin+. Makes it much more comfortable to use and easier to see the screen.

  • @moano3271
    @moano3271 Месяц назад

    this video totally got me back into using my push 2, which has for last couple of years just been sitting there..i basically fell into the trap of focusing on time efficiency in terms of knocking out music the fastest way possible, rather than also enjoying the process. Now when i am back with the push 2 it has actually reinvented my joy for producing music. So thanks alot for this video, because this video is responsible for that 🤓👍 Got any solid tips on eliminating the latency between push pads and live? Other than sample res.

  • @TristanBaldi
    @TristanBaldi 2 месяца назад +1

    Great thanks!

  • @executivemindstate
    @executivemindstate 2 месяца назад

    Just when I thought I had all the equipment I can ever need lol thanks bro

  • @yuca2k1
    @yuca2k1 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video!

  • @adavidalex212
    @adavidalex212 3 месяца назад +1

    Amazing insights! Many thanks for rekindling my love for the Push 2 :)
    What documentation can I refer to get a summary of all the shortcuts as per the latest Ableton updates?

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@adavidalex212 thank you! Unfortunately I don’t know of any documentation as I was looking for it too. Hopefully someone might add to this. 🙂

  • @MrCobrienlux
    @MrCobrienlux 2 месяца назад

    man you are awesome.

  • @bexiexz
    @bexiexz Месяц назад

    yes y es

  • @pastoralrezowiecki4379
    @pastoralrezowiecki4379 Месяц назад

    Your video is absolutely amazing and I am deciding to stay with Push 2. Would you please recommend me a cable to connect with Push 2 to a Macbook pro's thunderbolt? Do you think an ordinary cable from Ebay would work? Thank you again for your amazing work! The way you're using it is very inspiring.

  • @wernerhaider2338
    @wernerhaider2338 3 месяца назад +2

    great video!
    If you happen to know some shortcuts or general tips on how to more smoothly operate the hardware, please make another video.
    Greetings from Vienna!

  • @KasperKasperski
    @KasperKasperski 3 месяца назад +1

    great stuff man, i really aprpeciate my push after i watched this
    can you please explain how you route audio from ableton to sp404 and then back to ableton, my brain just stopped working

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@KasperKasperski 😂… so it’s just a case of setting your audio input and output to the SP inside Abletons preferences so you’re using it as your audio interface. You need to make sure your monitors or headphones are plugged into the SP as that’s how you’re going to hear Ableton. You need to connect it via the USB C cable from the SP to your laptop or whatever you use. You will see the SP listed as audio devices in Ableton. You can then use Ableton as normal but if you apply fx on the SP that will affect the audio coming from Ableton. To get it back into Ableton you just need to record to an audio track as the SP is also the input source… BUT.. don’t set your audio track to in or auto monitoring in Ableton as it creates a feedback loop which will sound awful. Just record but monitoring to out/off. Hope that makes sense. 👍

    • @xrkalitza38
      @xrkalitza38 3 месяца назад

      ​@@nervouscookssure it does, thanks! I've been using my push lately and it's such a great device

  • @thebl8nlyblatantnetwork
    @thebl8nlyblatantnetwork 3 месяца назад +1

    Me still being new to this !!! This video is so golden for me 🔥🔥🔥 I just got mines about going on month and I love it !!! Got it for 250!!! Get yall a push 2 you will love it .. its a game changer for Ableton

  • @DanielIvan707
    @DanielIvan707 3 месяца назад +1

    If you pay a lil bit more you can get a Force it’s so good.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@DanielIvan707 I’d like to try a force. I’ll have to look out for one 👍

    • @aloharay
      @aloharay 2 месяца назад

      Had a Force when it first came out and it was not as stable and advertised features on the box took a long time to actually get implemented in later firmware updates. I hope it is a better experience now.

    • @DanielIvan707
      @DanielIvan707 2 месяца назад

      @@aloharay it’s so good now! Akai uses it loyal customers as free beta testers 😡

  • @frnz438
    @frnz438 Месяц назад

    Hey, thanks a lot for the great video!
    I have a question: Isn't there a way to set it up so that one scene automatically transitions to the next? For example, Scene 1 plays, and as soon as it's finished, Scene 2 starts playing, instead of repeating the current one. Sometimes, I’d like to hear how my current arrangement flows without having to manually jump from scene to scene.
    I hope I managed to explain this somewhat clearly! :D

  • @DJCJ999
    @DJCJ999 Месяц назад

    I’m new to Ableton and come from a groovebox background… the push might just open the software up to me.
    I was considering the Move for that reason (the familiar groovebox workflow but also Ableton integration)… with the limitations of the Move I think a Push would be the best buy?… doesn’t it allow you to play samples in a kit chromatically? I see you can set the pad to give velocity but what about pitch/scales?

  • @Yvesjansen
    @Yvesjansen 2 дня назад +1

    In the beginning of your video you spoke about the udate of the firmware to 1.2 but mine is still on 1.1 version. when I go to the ableton download site , I can not find the firmware for the push 2, only the ones for the push 3. How can I get to the file for the firmware 1.2 for push 2 ? can sombody help me please ?

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  День назад

      @@Yvesjansen your push should automatically update when you open live. You see it sometimes when you open live and it says verifying. If it’s not automatically updating you might need to contact Ableton.

  • @DJ_Personal
    @DJ_Personal Месяц назад

    I know you have videos with both Push 2 and Maschine MK3.
    Is there one you prefer over the other?

  • @mightymightyironhead
    @mightymightyironhead 12 дней назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing that. I have the chance to buy a second hand unused (apparently) Push 2 live 10 suite bundle for around $380USD. I did not talk to the seller yet, but i wonder if anyone else has bought a second hand Push 2 that includes any version of suite? and had any issues with obvious hardware problems (kind of nervous when buying this type of thing second hand)? I also heard that once the licence for the software is registered you cannot transfer the licence to another user? they do have the Push 2 listed as unused, but its possible that they have registered the software.

  • @brockukg
    @brockukg Месяц назад

    i picked up an original push about a year ago for about 120 quid but i've really struggled to integrate it into my workflow. it may be the type of music i make being UK Garage and something like house or hiphop that lends itself well to the "live" way of producing. have you personally tried the original vs the push 2, is there much in terms of user experience and if not is there any resources to help me get organised or used to using it. i find it feels clunky compared to my usual keyboard and mouse accessing menus etc

  • @machinemademan
    @machinemademan 2 месяца назад +1

    i recently picked up an mpc one t hen impulse bought one of these yesterday....do you think its redundant?

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  2 месяца назад

      @@machinemademan two different animals. They both can do a lot but have unique workflows. Sometimes it’s not the features but just how it feels to you. That’s often overlooked. I’ve had a bunch of gear over the years that I’ve sold, not because it was bad but simply because it didn’t feel right. We all have specific needs and things we want so you need to try it and see if you like it. You might prefer the MPC or vice versa, or like me you might like having them both for different days and different moods. I hope you enjoy it though 👍

  • @benbarrett4013
    @benbarrett4013 2 месяца назад +1

    Where are you finding these for £250? Maybe they've gone up a bit as can't seem to find for lower than £300 now (though I guess we're a few weeks on now - maybe they're making a comeback!).

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  2 месяца назад +1

      @@benbarrett4013 try Facebook marketplace if you’re in the UK. Just check out the seller and the device to make sure it’s not a lemon! 👍

    • @aloharay
      @aloharay 2 месяца назад +1

      Do not be afraid to make slightly lower offers. You may get a bite!

    • @benbarrett4013
      @benbarrett4013 2 месяца назад

      @@aloharay - thanks for the advice, I might give it a go! I checked Facebook marketplace but where I am in the UK is still more expensive, so this might help me out :)

    • @JhazzyMusic
      @JhazzyMusic 2 месяца назад

      @@benbarrett4013same here. Saw one for £260 on eBay though and it’s gone now 😂. It’s a tad cheaper on Facebook market place but distance is also an issue for me

  • @SuperOhRock
    @SuperOhRock 3 месяца назад +3

    I'm a student who usually watches your videos.
    Thank you very much for your oppnion and tutorial.
    I was recently selling my Push2 to someone as a secondhand transaction.
    But I didn't sell it.
    The reason is this.
    -I was not in a situation where I could continue to do music, so I had no choice but to sell Push2.
    Before selling it, I was trying to see if the function was working properly
    At that moment, I couldn't see any reason why I should sell this.
    I wanted to practice harder. I can't believe it was a chance for me to learn from DJ, who wanted to learn more than anyone else!
    Thank God.
    Thank you. NervousCook$

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@SuperOhRock you’re welcome! 👍🙂

  • @davidosolo
    @davidosolo 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice tutorial, mate. Thanks, really appreciated.
    I have a new unit of Push 2 sitting in its box since 5 years. With your video, probably the time has come to open that box.

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад +1

      @@davidosolo yes indeed! 👍🙂

  • @JackJohnaon
    @JackJohnaon 3 месяца назад +4

    You bought the push 2 back!

    • @nervouscooks
      @nervouscooks  3 месяца назад

      @@JackJohnaon yes, it’s a new one as I sold my last one but I regretted it. Great to have another one! 👍

  • @racalik
    @racalik 20 дней назад

    I'd gladly try one, but im afraid that I would not bond with it/ get my mind blown and go back to old workflow with mouse and keyboard anyway... anyone can prove me wrong ? :) what do you think about push 2 vs novation launchkey mk4 ??

  • @sebastianvega4576
    @sebastianvega4576 3 месяца назад

    my push 2 does not have that new session view. does that not update automatically?

  • @willmc6728
    @willmc6728 2 месяца назад

    afternoons work, some alcohol