If I bought that I would change back wheel to 2000wat 45amp controller one battery 52v 20amp sell other wheel and batterys and I would have a great bike 50 mph on a stand on road 45to 48mph that would do me I've got that set up on mountain bike so that set up on this bike with fat tyres great 😮
I just saw some other review of this bike today earlier. I mentioned how lackluster the 20 amp controller provided power. But I can see how if a person really liked this bikes looks that it does have potential. Switch out that rear tire and motor for a 1,500 to 3,000 watt motor and get the 40-50 amp controller. That frame space has plenty of room for a nice 60 or 72 V battery .. Brakes to hydraulic is an easy upgrade too. You would think full twist would be easier to modulate power ..
Buy a new bike then replace all the main components with other new parts that may or may not work together properly at considerable expense and labor to make it into a bike worth owning. Sounds like a plan.
@@Dave-dr6ft most kits that replace current components are reliable. You only need select the battery design to complete the package. I would chose the most liked frame style for myself and then decide in power and battery
@Dave the kit comes with everything except the battery and to get the correct kit for you ebike you only need to know 2 things the rear dropout dimensions and the tire size
This is about the only affordable bike available to me in Europe, there’s a lot to like about it, but the lack of torque bothers me. How easily do you reckon it would be tuned with a different controller for max torque and top speed?
Not a big fan of moped style electric bikes. I must admit that the Engwe M20 price is attractively nice. Only $1.6k and got massive 1,248 watt hours capacity can’t beat that. I like the HAOQI Cheetah step-over bike better but that costs a bit more at $2k.
right on! yeah the revv1 is a great value and faster than most of these moped style ebikes, especially the fully suspension version (I'm sure you saw my hard tail review right?) If you do grab one consider clicking this link and using my code at checkout to save you $ on it as well as support my reviews: go.ride1up.com/SHz - $50 off with Discount code: tailhappytv regardless of your choice, have a great riding season!
I just got the Raev Bullet Pro, & is an awesome bike for under $2k, with full suspension, & better looks than a Super 73, for 1/2 the price! This looks pretty cool as well, but it's super small after I sat on 1, & I'm only 5'10"
Just bought this, mine was very easy to assemble apart from the front wheel I used an extra, when you buy twin battery it already comes basically built other than the light and front wheel I got an extra rod I used rather than the one inside the wheel.
@@burakarc698 I think so, I never did a range test but I’ve driven around all day with a single battery on and it won’t even use half, the battery range I’ve seen on other videos gets a lot more as guys cycle sometimes, both taking strain from the motor using less power, while adding power from peddling.
binged most of your vids to help decide on bike.. this one seems underwhelming power-wise, but they just launched a 2.0 version with more power, so for the price it might be pretty good... will you be reviewing this bike?
So if you can upgrade the cassette I would go with a 11-32 cassette, change the shifter to 8 speed and go with a 8 speed cassette. Will go faster than with that 7 speed.
This bike has been on my short list for e-bike #2, now after watching this It may have dropped a few notches. I want to get a 50-60 mile range without any worry. I was wondering about the UPP Battery as a backup battery but I haven't seen any videos that talks about backup batteries. They are probably out there just haven't found one.
@@SerPounceToebeans I haven't used a backup battery yet, it's why I was asking about them. Since the video though I have looked into it and everything I have found say yes they do work well. The only issue that came up a few times was that some bikes are not capable of the 2 battery setup. I don't know enough about the power modules to know if my bike is capable or not.
I just wired in a 48v 30ah chamrider polly 7 lithium ion battery on the lower down tube. I use the 2 13 ah batteries for the top tube. Now i gett a reall 100 mile range. I love this bike and when i bought it was 1450 now it's on sale for 1200 you get your money's worth. Alot of people dont like it but i love it. I put a rear rack and cst scout tires and upgraded the 160mm rotors to 180 and upgraded the rear shock to hydraulic rear shock. Now it rides so smooth next ill probably upgrade the controller .
Are laws in California different when cross an intersection with a bike? I was taught in school to get off the bike at the intersection, walk with it across the street, then get back on it to continue my riding when the conditions permit it. You walk with it in case a car comes at you. You can get out of the way faster on foot than if you were still on the bike.
What is the width of the bottom bracket on this thing? I think it would be cool to replace that rear hub motor with BBSHD mid motor to get excellent hill climbing ability and judging by the frame you probably will be able to mount that motor on top of the downtube so it would look very nice. I like this idea but don't like these low torque hub motors.
If you want speed, Revv 1 (hard tail is all I have experience with) If you want style, tough call... prob Revv 1 has more street cred 😆 If you want range.... have you seen this ruclips.net/video/8foNiPP7LtY/видео.html I know, I'm so helpful 😜
No. Range anxiety does not come from the variable bike range, it comes from the fact that there are too few places that you can recharge quickly, and none if you are off-roading. 6 hours for a full recharge? Perhaps double that if you have to charge each battery separately. The same anxiety applies to all EV's including cars.
As someone considering their first e-bike and not looking to spend a fortune, which would you say is the better value for the money: the M20 or the Jansno e-bike? I live in Los Angeles and I’m just looking for a fun ride on the weekends.
I mean, the jansno is significantly less expensive, so I'd have to say that's the better value. But Engwe is a more well known brand, so there's that. I know, this response is very helpful right? 😆
@@TailHappyTV If you drive an EV, it means squeezing every last bit of range you can get from the battery by driving with the highest efficiency possible. In some cases, people can get way more rated range than what is specified. Mostly it's done with cars, but it's totally possible with ebikes. That bike looks small and light, so I wonder how far it could actually be pushed in a pinch. It seems like it would be a great candidate.
beware engwe sent me defective x26 with stuck batt engwes fix was to tell me to pry out batt with screwdriver and sand a brand new ebike 🤪🤯 or to take to shop pay $300 and wait for a check. engwe also asked me to lie via email.
@@tiuyang94 I’m not sure a torque sensor would be much benefit as it doesn’t really look like it’d be very comfortable to pedal for longer than a minute or so, hope I’m wrong because I kinda like the look of it but also wanted it to be comfortable to pedal on flat ground 🤷🏼♂️
Hello, I know you may not see this but you should review the ridstar q20, it’s around a similar price point and there arnt any good reviews of it out there!
Price and effort, labor cost to repair, just don't do hydraulic brakes, they are completely unnecessary only making thing more complicated and expensive to get the same job done, save the hydraulic brakes for those that will go faster and need insurance.
I think it's a good bike for the price. With the one battery price is around 1300. Much cheaper than others in that range of e-bikes. Some go from 2000 to 3000 dollar (or euro's in Europe) . Of course there are maybe better or faster e-bikes, or better looking or whatever. But it comes with a price.
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Haha! The part where you pretended to not know what pedals are and their function gave me a nice chuckle
If I bought that I would change back wheel to 2000wat 45amp controller one battery 52v 20amp sell other wheel and batterys and I would have a great bike 50 mph on a stand on road 45to 48mph that would do me I've got that set up on mountain bike so that set up on this bike with fat tyres great 😮
I don't like how small the seat is I can't imagine its comfortable
And the severe angle of it looks like you constantly have to fight sliding forward.
I just saw some other review of this bike today earlier. I mentioned how lackluster the 20 amp controller provided power. But I can see how if a person really liked this bikes looks that it does have potential. Switch out that rear tire and motor for a 1,500 to 3,000 watt motor and get the 40-50 amp controller. That frame space has plenty of room for a nice 60 or 72 V battery .. Brakes to hydraulic is an easy upgrade too. You would think full twist would be easier to modulate power ..
Buy a new bike then replace all the main components with other new parts that may or may not work together properly at considerable expense and labor to make it into a bike worth owning. Sounds like a plan.
@@Dave-dr6ft most kits that replace current components are reliable. You only need select the battery design to complete the package. I would chose the most liked frame style for myself and then decide in power and battery
@Dave the kit comes with everything except the battery and to get the correct kit for you ebike you only need to know 2 things the rear dropout dimensions and the tire size
Some people on Reddit have bought this bike then added a mid drive motor onto it as well as the hub motor.
Good review 👍
Looks fun! Good video
This is about the only affordable bike available to me in Europe, there’s a lot to like about it, but the lack of torque bothers me. How easily do you reckon it would be tuned with a different controller for max torque and top speed?
Not a big fan of moped style electric bikes. I must admit that the Engwe M20 price is attractively nice. Only $1.6k and got massive 1,248 watt hours capacity can’t beat that. I like the HAOQI Cheetah step-over bike better but that costs a bit more at $2k.
Thank you Tailhappy. I am looking to see it soonest... Please can you tell me if its the volts or the motor needed for steep hill climbing?
I think it's a good bike for the price. (with the one battery) Certainly for someone's first e-bike, you get a lot of bike for your money.
yes i agree with you 100 %, this is a real good starter Ebike for sure :0
It's quite underpowered.
You can unlock it by holding down the two buttons on the odometer and it will go 35
Solid build. Just started checking out E bikes. I really dig these moto style frames. Thinking about picking up a Ride1Up Revv1.
right on! yeah the revv1 is a great value and faster than most of these moped style ebikes, especially the fully suspension version (I'm sure you saw my hard tail review right?) If you do grab one consider clicking this link and using my code at checkout to save you $ on it as well as support my reviews:
go.ride1up.com/SHz - $50 off with Discount code: tailhappytv
regardless of your choice, have a great riding season!
I just got the Raev Bullet Pro, & is an awesome bike for under $2k, with full suspension, & better looks than a Super 73, for 1/2 the price!
This looks pretty cool as well, but it's super small after I sat on 1, & I'm only 5'10"
I was hoping to review that one, they are going to send me a upgraded one with even higher specs in July supposedly, we'll see
10:51 cool moment
15:38 another one
Just bought this, mine was very easy to assemble apart from the front wheel I used an extra, when you buy twin battery it already comes basically built other than the light and front wheel I got an extra rod I used rather than the one inside the wheel.
bro what do you think range? really can 150 km range?
@@burakarc698 I think so, I never did a range test but I’ve driven around all day with a single battery on and it won’t even use half, the battery range I’ve seen on other videos gets a lot more as guys cycle sometimes, both taking strain from the motor using less power, while adding power from peddling.
Can you help me out ? Engwe M20 or PHILODO H7Pro for delivering food bro !?
this would be the best bang out there if it had the color display and a 20Ahr battery
binged most of your vids to help decide on bike.. this one seems underwhelming power-wise, but they just launched a 2.0 version with more power, so for the price it might be pretty good... will you be reviewing this bike?
yes, coming soon
So if you can upgrade the cassette I would go with a 11-32 cassette, change the shifter to 8 speed and go with a 8 speed cassette. Will go faster than with that 7 speed.
Great review, could you review the ridstar q20 pro also is similar to this one.
Thank you
Does a thumb throttle work on the bike? I can't stand the twist throttle on the bike, I keep having near misses.
This bike has been on my short list for e-bike #2, now after watching this It may have dropped a few notches. I want to get a 50-60 mile range without any worry. I was wondering about the UPP Battery as a backup battery but I haven't seen any videos that talks about backup batteries. They are probably out there just haven't found one.
Did the Upp battery worked?
@@SerPounceToebeans I haven't used a backup battery yet, it's why I was asking about them. Since the video though I have looked into it and everything I have found say yes they do work well. The only issue that came up a few times was that some bikes are not capable of the 2 battery setup. I don't know enough about the power modules to know if my bike is capable or not.
I just wired in a 48v 30ah chamrider polly 7 lithium ion battery on the lower down tube. I use the 2 13 ah batteries for the top tube. Now i gett a reall 100 mile range. I love this bike and when i bought it was 1450 now it's on sale for 1200 you get your money's worth. Alot of people dont like it but i love it. I put a rear rack and cst scout tires and upgraded the 160mm rotors to 180 and upgraded the rear shock to hydraulic rear shock. Now it rides so smooth next ill probably upgrade the controller .
emgwe m20 2.0 test coming soon? :)
Just found your channel today and I'm about 15 videos deep. Any tips on what fat tire bikes out there are adequate for a full size second rider?
Probably get this til I get enough for my motor goat
He basically said the two things I don’t like. The battery top position is 1 and the top speed limit. Forgot bout the low torque.
Can it wheelie
Some other review did a shunt mod and got the display to read 1500w output or something I believe.
Is this bike suitable for tall people? I am 6.3 but really like this bike
He is 6”5’
How to unlock speed?
Good looking bike.
great video. Does anyone know what that kid was riding popping wheelies on? That thing was fast!
Similar to this This 70 MPH ebike is DANGEROUS
ruclips.net/video/j0c_dSjfvcI/видео.html
His is a bit turned down from this
Most impressive spec? Swinging your BACK LEG AROUND that seat, LOL 😆 @6:12
how would this bike do in the rain? worried about electronics
Can the seat of this electric bike be raised or lowered?
Where are the 3 screws for the second battery????
I think I bought some at Home Depot
Are laws in California different when cross an intersection with a bike? I was taught in school to get off the bike at the intersection, walk with it across the street, then get back on it to continue my riding when the conditions permit it. You walk with it in case a car comes at you. You can get out of the way faster on foot than if you were still on the bike.
If a car wants to hit you it does not matter whether you are riding or walking they can hit you.
thanks for the honest vid, so disappointed on this bike, i really want the design but it needs more upgrade on it.
Does it have cruise control?
do you think if i got the single battery version i could install a extra seat on the spot of the extra battery?
What is the width of the bottom bracket on this thing? I think it would be cool to replace that rear hub motor with BBSHD mid motor to get excellent hill climbing ability and judging by the frame you probably will be able to mount that motor on top of the downtube so it would look very nice. I like this idea but don't like these low torque hub motors.
I seen a you tube video where someone did this. He kept the rear motor and installed a mid drive motor. Looked good
Mine came with the batteries installed
Question. How can we add more torque?!?! I’m buying one Friday used. Serious answers pls
Either go dual motor or just get a bike that has stronger torque
With 2 48 volt batteries does that mean its more volt than 48?
no, it is just more amp-hours. (48v * 15ah )+ (48 * 15ah) = 48v * 30ah = 1440 Watt-hours
@@TailHappyTV Okay. TY
Can you please recommend a inexpensive 52 volt to me. TY
@@lorihauver1800 have one coming soon
Which emoped can power thru that grade ? That’s what I want
ruclips.net/video/8foNiPP7LtY/видео.html
Bonjour tu mesures qu’elle taille et est ce que le vélo n’est pas trop petit?
is there a way to unlock the speed?
Na, it would need an upgraded controller to draw more current from batteries
If I were to mainly use the throttle would the 80 miles it says it can do be with throttle use
Largely depends on speed, but I would say about 40 miles on throttle only
The unlocked code is P 63
Hi I’m 5’2 what I’d be able to get on this bike thank you
Yes it be a good fit for you
Engwe M20 or Revv 1? Which one would you recommend more? :)
If you want speed, Revv 1 (hard tail is all I have experience with)
If you want style, tough call... prob Revv 1 has more street cred 😆
If you want range.... have you seen this ruclips.net/video/8foNiPP7LtY/видео.html
I know, I'm so helpful 😜
@@TailHappyTV Thanks!! :D
No. Range anxiety does not come from the variable bike range, it comes from the fact that there are too few places that you can recharge quickly, and none if you are off-roading. 6 hours for a full recharge? Perhaps double that if you have to charge each battery separately. The same anxiety applies to all EV's including cars.
As someone considering their first e-bike and not looking to spend a fortune, which would you say is the better value for the money: the M20 or the Jansno e-bike? I live in Los Angeles and I’m just looking for a fun ride on the weekends.
I mean, the jansno is significantly less expensive, so I'd have to say that's the better value. But Engwe is a more well known brand, so there's that. I know, this response is very helpful right? 😆
I'd love to see how far a person could get if they hyper-mile this.
what does hyper mile mean?
@@TailHappyTV Eco driving. He basically saying would like to see how far will this thing travel dual batteries if you go easy on the power
@@helenHTID ok that makes sense, I was thinking like hyper speed😆
@@TailHappyTV If you drive an EV, it means squeezing every last bit of range you can get from the battery by driving with the highest efficiency possible. In some cases, people can get way more rated range than what is specified. Mostly it's done with cars, but it's totally possible with ebikes. That bike looks small and light, so I wonder how far it could actually be pushed in a pinch. It seems like it would be a great candidate.
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beware engwe sent me defective x26 with stuck batt engwes fix was to tell me to pry out batt with screwdriver and sand a brand new ebike 🤪🤯 or to take to shop pay $300 and wait for a check. engwe also asked me to lie via email.
How do kids get $5,000 e bikes? Paper route?🤔
😂 were old AF... The could deliver gummies tho
Shame it's not hydraulic brakes
and not Torque Sensor
@yeuthantien at that price?? Of course those would be nice, so would solid gold handlebars, but it is already packed with features for its price
@@tiuyang94 I’m not sure a torque sensor would be much benefit as it doesn’t really look like it’d be very comfortable to pedal for longer than a minute or so, hope I’m wrong because I kinda like the look of it but also wanted it to be comfortable to pedal on flat ground 🤷🏼♂️
OKAY BUT WHAT KIND OF BIKE WAS THAT KID RIDING
A surron
Hello, I know you may not see this but you should review the ridstar q20, it’s around a similar price point and there arnt any good reviews of it out there!
Please let me have used one to pay for
sadle is not adjustable for taller riders
True, I have a moped style ebike with an adjustable seat coming soon
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Forget this thing. I wanna know what that kid was on!
This 70 MPH ebike is DANGEROUS
ruclips.net/video/j0c_dSjfvcI/видео.html
Lack of torque means a big NO, for me.
Price and effort, labor cost to repair, just don't do hydraulic brakes, they are completely unnecessary only making thing more complicated and expensive to get the same job done, save the hydraulic brakes for those that will go faster and need insurance.
website down not a good sign
20 amp controller.........i see the problem here.
Another video that doesn't show you how to adjust the front break
👎🏽 headlights and the looks that’s it👎🏽seat sux, angle of seat sux, peddling sux
i say 20 ah is a 40 mile bike
Paid 750usd for this bike 😅
Gta
Good vid. Disappointing bike
thank you for watching
I think it's a good bike for the price. With the one battery price is around 1300.
Much cheaper than others in that range of e-bikes. Some go from 2000 to 3000 dollar (or euro's in Europe) .
Of course there are maybe better or faster e-bikes, or better looking or whatever. But it comes with a price.
Seems janky and cheep.
THIS SHIT IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!