The Most UNDERRATED Thing In The Jurassic Park Franchise
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- Опубликовано: 13 ноя 2023
- The most underrated and overlooked thing in the Jurassic Park and World franchise is by far Site B. The fans have begged for the dark and mysterious dinosaur secrets of Isla Sorna to return in the films but they haven’t. The Lost World and JP3 have introduced new species like male Tyrannosaurs, Spinosaurus, Tiger striped Raptors, feathered Dinos, rich canon and lore alongside a more survival and horror themed set of action scenes but Dominion and the TV series abandoned them. Fallen Kingdom got close with the Indoraptor but at this point people just want to see that island again and all of its hidden untapped potential. From the Mayan Ruins to Trespasser, the Michael Crichton novel ideas are needed badly.
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I still have no idea why the filmmakers refuse to go for a tone and aspect of the Jurassic Park movies that is so clearly wanted and loved that it’s unavoidable when fans talk about it. Modern movies are written terribly and they need to clean that up. But why have they outright avoided Site B in the films plots entirely?
I'm not entirely sure either, given that Dominion strayed very far from what most people expected from an idea of Dinosaurs overtaking the world at large, it's a wonder why they aren't stepping back and asking themselves if that is the tone they really want. My only sincere hope is that given the writers strike that just ended, Hollywood isn't going to keep much of the other writers around, they're going to want to cut the fat out of their system, with cutting out what isn't making them money comes bringing in better ideas that potentially could bring in money for their films and in turn have something people want. It's a morbid thought and I don't wish people to lose jobs over something that more than likely isn't their fault however given the bloat that's in Hollywood as of then that purge needs to happen. My big take away in this is that the people saying Dominion was the jumping off point for the franchise to start are dead wrong, the Lost World is the jumping off point that has potential for MUCH to be explored. While I liked Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom, I feel very much that they've basically jumped the gun and lost the plot for the most part losing sight of what made Michael Creighton's tone very relevant to the franchise. It isn't simply Dinosaurs and genetic power, it's what happens when either of these were mishandled and everyone else has to deal with the consequences of a few people's actions. Lost World gave us a T Rex in LA, now imagine a stampede of various Dinosaurs running through a neighborhood. That's what SHOULD have been in Dominion.
I love your logo and name. But yes you are 95% right.
Kinda like how fans make consistently better games than the official license holders, but get shut down by the license... and then the license holders decide to churn out complete garbage games instead.
It's as if studios and executives, shareholders etc, are hellbent on killing themselves.
Probably because they believe it’s more brand friendly to keep things watered down. They don’t take risks unless they believe it’s a safe option; which of course defeats the purpose.
Yeah, making up fictional dinosaurs and making the giga into a generic movie monster when they could use so many different dinosaurs wound me up
I hate to sound like a broken record, but Sorna needs to come back. The island may possibly be the most lore rich location in the franchise and yet it's been criminally underutilized. I don't just want to be told of what's going on with Sorna, I want to see it. There's a lot of potential for great storytelling if they go back to Sorna.
Need a good reason I mean who in there right mind would go back I mean maybe a out break of disease x needs to be traced to get a vaccine
With that being said Jurassic 3 should have been about DX killing Poultry on the mainland
I'd like to see other islands used in the films too, I don't understand why they mentioned all those 5 islands but only used 2, it would have made the sequels alot better
@@Theshropshireratter maybe be show what happened after the events of jurassic park, and before the lost world. Show the perspective of a security guard or something
I loved The Lost World for the Isla Sorna SETTING of the movie, making it look like what the dinosaurs would be living in, from forests to plains to even watery areas.
Same. It wasn't a "Park" film but it first true "World" film. And done far better.
I just want Jurassic Park to continue featuring outdated technology like in JP1. The style of the technology and facilities looking '90s was such a huge part of what made JP1 so unique and (for me) it became part of the rugged expedition/safari branding of the JP franchise
Also ties in better for a 'run before you learn to walk' kind of arrogance. Accelerated genetic power and playing god, all whilst the limited computing and infrastructure technology of the 90s holding everything back. Things stopped working the park. Nothing was perfect.
Also the plot can be more tighter and urgent, eg No smartphones, relying on radios only to call for help. Slow running computers and crude backup systems during moments of urgency.
They could do that and have the events before park and world...that would be interesting a failed rescue mission or something. Even look into the Enron company competitors going for the info etc.
I wish we could go back to Site B in a future TV series or movie, see what happens next.
Who wants to see Isla Sorna appear again in future Jurassic TV shows and movies!? I sure do! Maybe the island will appear in Chaos Theory at some point, who knows!? We all know that it's a great day when Klayton uploads a new video. Epic video, Klayton! Keep up the great work!
Me too
A digestible(but longer paced) survival horror tv series based primarily on Sorna has a lot of potential, and you can simply title it “Site B”
Oh make it happen!
No one’s gonna talk about how Klayton keeps saying “This is all my thoughts and personal opinions” but what he says is the most fairest thing and critically valid. Universal gotta use Klayton for their works!
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Site b needs to be explored a lot more there is so much more lore that they can explore maybe in a live action show or a future sequel or prequel movie.
They can easily work it in a script. First half is a “what happened back then on site B” and the second half is coping with survivors guilt and turning around to saving the crew from a new big bad from the island that survived. But that would take some effort and Hollywood is a field of AI writing and bloggers masquerading as screenwriters. It’s full of nepotism, you only fail upward if you’re in bed with the right folks in the entertainment industry
Even in the book, just thinking about Site B as a once touched, precariously balanced ecosystem gave me chills.
The unknown of it, what's survived, what's adapted, and what InGen kept hidden - perfect setting, and you're right, definitely underrated in the films 👍
I like your comment because it made me realize the risk of exploring this subject. Many times the thrill and excitement comes from the mysteries and the unknown. However once the veil has been removed and we know what's inside, that feeling is lessened.
If anyone played Subnautica - it's an underwater survival game that plays more like a horror game - the first playthrough is amazing and chilling. The second time, you already know what to do and what to expect, and much of that horror is lost.
I'm afraid that if we explore "too much" of Site B we will have "solved" all the mysteries of the franchise and then there is nothing else left to wonder about.
Many beloved franchises like The Lord of the Rings, until this day have unknown lore and mysteries. It keeps the fans engaged, the discussions going, we will never know the answers and that's what makes fans keep coming back to think about it. Once everything is "solved" then there are no more theories or discussions to be had, so the conversation (and the stories) will die out and be forgotten with time.
The dinosaurs were really unique too. The camoflage scene in the second book in particular was wasted not using it on screen. Hidden ambushing dinosaurs make a creepy and fun spin on the usual 'roar and chase' theropods we're always seeing.
They only want to see the monsters with no self preservation hunt people as their dinosaur movie. They missed the point of the first 2 films (let’s be honest that those behind the helm of JW2+3 didn’t read the novels) that established the setting and lore. “People love dinosaurs!!” Then have the baryonyx throw itself at lava in order to kill the people… seriously, wtf?
The films that took place on Sorna are my favorites in the franchise. So much untapped potential.
I love how most of your content nowadays just consists of pointing out the potential and ideas present throughout the Jurassic franchise that Universal in the modern day are too ignorant or afraid to explore. Great video as always.
My take: a dark, gritty, solo survival exploration horror movie where lore is hinted at or slightly revealed as the movie plays out. Dino on dino carnage in abundance. Close encounters with plenty of tension and jump scares. Give me something that would give casual fans nightmares and hardcore fans what they want.
The creepy potential of Sorna is an absolute gold mine that Universal needs to let someone have a field day with. I'm practically drooling over the possibilities. The "black-site" nature of Sorna could make for some incredibly thrilling, creepy, and suspenseful stories that could come out of it. They even have plenty of space to explore the hybrids as well as some of the lesser known and more dangerous species.
Right, take the tone of the 3rd film with the abandoned lab as a centerpiece for the new film. What were they doing here?! The spino can be reapproached knowing it’s a hybrid but truthfully, I think a direct mention by someone like Wu would be more than sufficient, show us some aftermath of the rampaging Spino. Keep the main Dino villain as the novel version of carnotaur. Have it as the unknown for the full movie, have it pick people off at critical moments, give us a Thing twist where we don’t know if we can trust those with us as we have an unseen nightmare hunting the protagonists! Imagine the entire setting with the scary fuel of the novel with the camo carnotaur. We don’t have to have the Rex or raptors to make a successful Jurassic Park/World film.
I came right when I got notified Klayton! I’ve loved Isla Sorna since reading about it in The Lost World novel! Still so much mystery behind it in movie canon! I love Site B only in The Lost World movie, the red woods look is the best! JP3 Site B with its jungle look looked more Nublar. Sorna also gave us the tiger stripped velociraptors and the Buck and Doe! My favorite dinosaurs of the franchise!
"You're well prepared for whatever situation comes your way."
I think that I hear Ian Malcolm laughing in the distance....
Great video on the most underrated things in the Jurassic Franchise and I pretty much agree with you on this especially with Isla Sorna and like The Lost World Jurassic Park and Jurassic Park III and great points you’ve made on the video and they could be very interesting that happened around in Isla Sorna.
Great work on this Klayton and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
2nd most underrated/underused thing in the franchise: the god damn mamenchisaurus
When we were writing Jurassic World Live Tour, our original pitch involved Site B. Universal said it was basically the only thing in the franchise that was off-limits to us.
Hold up, this is an underrated comment. Off-limits is wilddd
Why was Site B off limits?
You are extremely underrated I think that you need at least 7 million followers
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Isla Sorna should definitely be revisited in a future Jurassic story. New dinosaurs showing up out of nowhere would finally make sense.
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This is why Klayton is the GOAT (no pun intended) of the entire JP franchise fandom; the man goes DEEP into the lore and definitely knows his $hit! And as a 33 year old MASSIVE JP fan myself, I can for sure vouch for him being an expert that has even taught me a lot over the years.
Klayton, the KING of Jurassic Park!!!
I want to go back to Site B again, with InGEn’s actual Carnotaurus with camouflage abilities, Triceratops vs Velociraptor or Tyrannosaurus, DX and my favorite character Dr. Jack Thorne who in my opinion the Goat and reality check for Ian Malcolm. I just want to see all of that in the seventh Jurassic Park film.
You know just recently, I've had an idea for a darker more mature Jurassic Park TV show mixed with something like Narcos where the Cartels of Central and South America get involved with the 5 islands and begin poaching Dinosaurs from Sorna, where we'd get to see the original Carnotaurs from the Novel, the Dilos again, some of the ideas we had from Trespasser, and even some new Dinosaur threats. Along with Dinosaurs making it to the mainland because of the criminal activity and wrecking havoc on the ecosystem and the different countries down there, akin to Escobar's Hippos in a sense. We're talking literal "Chupacabras" in Mexico and Equator, or the scene from the books with the Compies in the nursery. I felt like Jurassic Park as a dark horror series still to this day just hasn't been touched to that degree and it's something we've all wanted to see, even as kids growing up.
"thank God for Site B!" John Hammond JP2
I'm a massive fan of background 'compounds' I guess one could say. Resident evil has all these secret labs hidden away, massive complexes where research is done, with other complexes that were used to test their weapons and the like.
JP is much the same, very much so in fact. Would have loved to see more of the San Diego compound and everything that would have gone into that. A complex to house such massive creatures would have had made something like Sea World look small in comparison. Site B has a handful of laboratories, the massive aviary which would be wicked to have seen up and running in top condition.
These franchises have such amazing material that content could be made from and fans would love it.
I would love to see a prequel series on Netflix about Sorna as the factory was up and running.
Well the big reason that we haven't been back is because The lost World and Jurassic Park 3 didn't do very well at the box office, with the second move bringing in about 500 mil and the third movie made around 300 mil total.
I agree. If they’re actually gonna continue making movies, they NEED to go back to Sorna.
The Red T-Rex and Super Raptor would be really cool to see.
Hi Klayton. The NES and Sega Genesis era of Jurassic Park games are getting a 30th anniversary re-release as the Jurassic Park Classic Games Collection. It comes out this Wednesday. I can hardly wait to revisit the Sega Genesis game. I could never get past the pump station as a kid.
Isla Sorna I’ll admit has rich potential, hell I even love how you described a scenario where even if you’re prepared, an unexpected species could ruin all your plans. I think a great idea spanning from this would simply be a mistake on the Dino list. The list may have carnotaurus, but no other details, and when they expect the carnotaurus to be as we seen on Nublar, we instead get the carnotaurus from the books, a subspecies with camouflage similar to a chameleon. That would reignite the terror and force people to try and survive. Imagine someone using a strobe light that interrupts the camo, revealing the carnos and giving people something they can see and work with. Can definitely imagine hunters taking time to observe and go over information they have on raptors, and this is where I believe some hunters would have 3d printed raptor vocal chambers like what billy had and use them in the presence of raptors to confuse them long enough to take advantage and either get away or shoot.
Awesome video klayton thanks
I remember when u had 174k subs now u have 352k subs u have grown so much congratulations
You make a great point. There are so many mysteries that surround Isla Sorna. It's really interesting.
I think we can all agree that if they ever plan on making a live action series . Isla sorna would be the best place to use as a main focus since there’s still so many things we don’t know about that islands history , or even the other “five deaths”.
Also your script sounds like something that would be great.
Isa Sorna has unlimited potential for anything like sequels, prequels, new species or even alternative species (for example a camouflaging carnotaurus as portrayed in the lost world novel)
Then we could have a Trespasser Remake, which, if done carefully and adapted to fit the overall canon, could become one of the greatest games of all time
They literally have any option whatsoever so hopefully one day we will see Site B back in all it's glory an maybe even more
7:42 I think I said this to you a few times about this headcannon story I have regarding a summer 2019 return to Site B that mixes some of the early drafts from the second & third films along with stuff from Crichton's Lost World book that wasn't adapted into film.
As someone that's sick of constantly going back Isla Nublar over and over, I agree completely!
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I love isla sorna a.k.a site b
Sorna needed to be flushed out more, I hope they do that and add some more novel stuff to it as well
just wanted to share brother i want you to know ive been watching since the start ..almost my first video was how much of rexy will we see in fallen kingdom
you have been on you tube for as long as i have been married i just want to thank you for your content other than jurassic outpost your the guy i listen too when i have a thought or want news i also listen to your stuff while playing jurassic world evo 2 and evo 1 when it first came out you keep the community alive bro and i am a big fucking fan of the lost world as well i might even like it more than the first. i hope one day we get to chat more on jurassic whether its on camera or not lol
Awesome Video!❤️
Eric’s 8 weeks must be some story.
If they made even a mini series for this island, they could make up so much stuff that would be awesome. I still wish universal would do so much more, excited to see chaos theory!
I would honestly love a game based purely off the mysteries of Isla Sorna and the Original Jurassic Park almost like an updated Trespasser
The editing/animation around 4:50 was fantastic.
going back to site b would be pretty weird considering the last trilogy just finally set them loose across the entire planet
True. So much more could have happened on Sorna! That island would be perfect for a movie. One small thing though, in the Evolution of Claire (which has been confirmed canon) it’s said that the Masrani Coörperation visited the island to get some species. Doesn’t that mean it’s technically impossible, since the island has already been re-explored off screen?
I agree with what your are saying but it’s also a slippery slope. They have to be careful not to get this out of hand.
I'm going to sound like a cringey 15-year-old for saying this, but _man_ Klayton, and I'm serious when I say this...they should hire YOU. With everything you've covered on the franchise over the years: the countless deleted scenes, Trespasser's lore, and _everything_ on Sorna, you as a person are a literal GOLDMINE when it comes to being the voice of the fans. You could tell a director EXACTLY the kind of movie we as fans want to see.
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊
You could do SO many things with Site B! From a group of Biosyn mercenaries bing sent in to steal dinos, to Warlords sending a group of hunters and soldiers because he wants Raptors or a T-Rex for his personal zoo. Maybe combine the two ideas, so you have two rival hunter factions trying to survive when everything eventually goes terribly wrong! Like you said it would be a perfect opportunity to bring in some new Dinos, like Mapusaurus, Megaraptor, or Sarcosuchus.
Have you been reading my fan fiction?
Or a more (dino crissis/ resident evil) movie showing some special operation guys from ingen security going in abandoned places to fight biosyn or mantah corp spyes and mercenarys and avoid them getting dna, dino eggs or even some type of documents, also showing some new dino species
Those were never cloned
@@nonconsensualopinion great minds think alike apparently 😉
@@knight_of_Christ That would really be cool too! Anything to get a team of dudes on the ground in the jungle having to survive against dinosaurs!!
Would be great to see a new movie or game with sorna on it. Also showing again ingen hunters or a special ops section of ingen, but as good guys this time. And some new dino like irritator or sarcosuchus
I was imagining something like the consept art from the ps1 game (the lost world) where a bunch of ingen hunters are seeing decending into a barionix area with FALs that would be bad ass.
Imagine if the next Jurassic Trilogy is a Midquel, set on Isla Sorna, based on Chaos Effect 😱
I would love to see a tv show based on site B starting with breading some of the dinosaurs for jurassic park while seeing a baby spinosaurus grow up also during the events of jurassic park up until they have to leave the island
I just realized I stopped watching until now, close to a year ago and coming back has me wondering how there’s still fresh ideas for videos
I really want to see more about site B in a cinematic view
This is a very exciting topic!
I came up with a story with the raptors evolving on the mainland and ending up on a ski resort. They were winterized and smart enough to use guns
I would want an animated, R rated thriller. Something that doesnt get caught up on how commercial it can be as opposed to how cannon it is. i think they avoid site b becuase its the bag of lore they dip into when they need to make something more interesting. To make a movie or mini series based on site B means you HAVE to get it right. Like the videogame did.
Isla Nublar was unacknowledged during the first two sequels
No it was in the Lost world when Ian and Hammond are talking about going to sorna and it even says that sorna is 87 miles of the coast of Isla Nublar
I just want a prequel that goes over the massive hurricane on site b, something lore heavy like that
I have an idea: Imagine Apocalypto meets Dances Woth Wolves meets The Village meets JP 2/3: a group of people decide to return to a primitive lifestyle by immigrating to Isla Sorna. Meanwhile some outsiders come to the island for documentation and perhaps nefarious purposes and the groups clash among the dangers of the island.
I bet one of the places Site B shipped to (before Universal mucked up the story) was Isla Aventura a.k.a. the Jurassic Park River Adventure in Orlando.
It would be fun to maybe have new characters head to site B after the events of Dominion to find InGen's roots and the creation of several species that are found on the mainland only to find many of their hidden projects which could include species like Nothosaurus or Albertosaurus.
I do wish they make a series of how the dinosaurs thrive in the other islands asides from Sorna and Nublar.
I'm still pissed Spino wasn't in dominion. Even more pissed, site B is simply just alluded to. Maybe they're keeping it in the dark on purpose...so they have material for sequels. Who knows.
I’d say to introduce the Cryolofasaurus from Antarctica… around the size of an actual adult Dilo, if not bigger, which would be just larger than the Indo Raptor… perfect size to be a larger-than-human menace, but small enough to sneak up on the camps unnoticed.
I really feel like in the next film. They're gonna have to go back here because the original island is Destroyed I still feel like you To Direct a jurassic park story that takes place on this island. In my eyes man you are the keeper site B
Opnes RUclips, Uploaded 26 seconds ago, guess I know what I am watching.
My dream new JP project would be an analog horror found footage anthology, with entries set throughout the JP timeline
I would love so much to see a survival horror style movie in Jurassic Park setting. Something where dinosaurs are not monsters, but terrifying beasts.
"No one can hear you scream at Isla Sorna."
Little did you know, two weeks after you posted, theyd say "Wish Granted"
I always thought the human skulls where the guys from the boat at yhr beginning of jp3
My beef is that Universal Studios abandoned the 5 Deaths and didn't utilized Mantah Corp to the full potential with Cenozoic animals and a good Spino/Sino hybrid (a creature that lives on swamps plus one on grassland resulted on a cold dependent creature, not even Smilodon was like fully cold dependent).
I agree they should talk about Isla Sorna site B even more. And us it for a future movie to I'd love to he a part of it. I don't care if I have to play the bad guy.😊
its interesting they included things like tarbosaurus and and albertosuarus because they're so similar to the T-rex
I just wish someone would make a new Jurassic Park/World movie that broke away from the contemporary ‘formula’ method of movies that come out today and just did something new. What made the first Jurassic park movie so legendary was it had in it things NO ONE EVER SAW BEFORE!!!!!!!
A more horror spin off where a Virus exclusive to dinosaurs where let’s say a plant eater eats a fungus or one of the raptors get curious about the embryos held in those vats, and it causes a Rabies like outbreak in which would transfer over to the other dinosaurs which in turn would cause mini civil wars to break out.
The original Rex family would be out of there normal territory and hanging out on the outskirts of the island to avoid the infected members of their race as well as other possible threats like overly aggressive plant eaters like Triceratops and Stego’s.
And the main reason why people would find out about this could be because of the pterodons making their way to the mainland and attacking everything they see including cannibalizing other members of their species.
0:00 My favorite line in the entire franchise.
Jurassic Park is mostly about wonder/horror in regards to dinosaurs.
But this questions the ethics of cloning in general.
Which is a valid point, and opens a whole can of worms.
Are cloned creatures considered alive, or real, or worth the same as naturally born creatures.
Where does it end, What are the evolutionary implications.
The list goes on.
It brings a kind of existential dread, that the franchise never really acknowledged again.
Is there much information about the African location that was briefly mentioned in the movies? Ive only read the one JP novel and it's been decades so I can't remember if anything was mentioned there either.
I hope in the next Jurassic movie or tv show they go back to isla sorna because it’s the island that started it all and I want to see if dinosaurs are still alive on that island
Or even a Kaprosuchus that can gallop like a horse and swat or even dig it's claws n 2 it's prey.
The skull in the nest was probably from one of the guys in the boat from the beginning of the movie.
Fully agree about Site B 👍
I think there's a risk of exploring this subject. Many times the thrill and excitement comes from the mysteries and the unknown. However once the veil has been removed and we know what's inside, that feeling is lessened.
If anyone played Subnautica - it's an underwater survival game that plays more like a horror game - the first playthrough is amazing and chilling. The second time, you already know what to do and what to expect, and much of that horror is lost.
I'm afraid that if we explore "too much" of Site B we will have "solved" all the mysteries of the franchise and then there is nothing else left to wonder about.
Many beloved franchises like The Lord of the Rings, until this day have unknown lore and mysteries. It keeps the fans engaged, the discussions going, we will never know the answers and that's what makes fans keep coming back to think about it.
Once everything is "solved" then there are no more theories or discussions to be had, so the conversation (and the stories) will die out and be forgotten with time.
Read. The. Book. It literally explains all of the species on the island as well a ingen/biosyn’s intentions w the animals, as well as the animals behavior in a natural setting. Also explains the Apatasaur presence. The only thing i wish they brought to film would be the pair of chameleon carnataurus terrorizing the island, running off the workers and dominating the raptors in the worker village. They were literally the reason the site was abandoned and the movie completely excluded that.
Hey Klayton! Will you be doing anymore Trespasser videos in the future?
Klayton, for your case I NEED you to know that the most underrated thing in the Jurassic Park franchise is indeed Jurassic Park Operation Genesis lol
I often wonder how James Cameron would have made Jurassic Park had he acquired the rights to the book like he wanted. Stories say Spielberg beat him to the book rights by about an hour. Cameron (and the rest of the world) was ultimately pleased with JP with Cameron saying that Spielberg did it right and that dinosaurs should be for everyone. Cameron is reported to have said he would have made Jurassic Park as "Aliens with dinosaurs". Now there's a thought.
Yes a another movie plz we need it
Would love to see a scary thriller tv series about site B
Would love to see them do a true to book version of JP. With all of them beat up in the interrogation rooms at Costa Rica recollecting the events of JP and flashing back to everything that happened. With the dark tone all the gruesome deaths and having the original characters die (Hammond and Malcom) with good build up and suspense and short and quick deaths none of the junk action like the Malta scene of Dominion with extended action scenes .. takes away from the feeling that the actors are in any sense of harm whatsoever..
Um actualy Michel Critton retcond malcom being dead in his second novel
You know what, what if someone wants to get certain Dino DNA and return to the island to get it? That could fit survival idea. Sky is the limit with content.
Jurassic park 3 was very scary,Pteranodon were crazy aggressive!!!!
I want to see Spinosaurus back again!