DO YOU NEED DSP? Audient iD14mkii VS Apollo Twin

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @EdThorne
    @EdThorne  3 года назад +5

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  • @vp5209
    @vp5209 Год назад +15

    That 100 roundtrip test is insane! It multiplies the subtle differences and shows what’s actually is going on. Hope to see more of those on your channel

  • @milankotevski1663
    @milankotevski1663 2 года назад +39

    I don't know about mic preamps, but I can confidently say that Audient id's instrument input is on par with some way more expensive audio interfaces. I've personally tested it against an 1500$ Apogee interface, and it's just as musical, and good sounding. It's crazy, but true.

    • @angrybalkon1471
      @angrybalkon1471 Год назад +1

      Looking for an audio interface. The main task is to record an electric guitar. I'm looking at the id4 mk ii, but a friend recommends rme Baby Face pro. In your opinion, does it make sense to overpay for rme? will I hear the difference? Thank you

    • @TheMrCull
      @TheMrCull 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@angrybalkon1471Hi! I’ve only had experience with older audient interfaces (mk1), but my conclusion was I didn’t care much for the ‘jfet ’ instrument input. It was warmer, but the accuracy with the Apollo and Babyface made it easier to track bass especially. The newer audients may have fixed this. To my ears the Apollo twin x and Babyface Pro fS were very close sonically. My preference was with accuracy of the latter two over the warmth of the audient. Is it worth the extra $600? Probably, most likely, not. All very close

  • @davidf8749
    @davidf8749 3 года назад +40

    Thorough, no-nonsense review. Only recently found this channel. Really liked the idea of putting the audio through 100x to highlight any converter degradation which wouldn't have been noticeable on one pass. You put a shed-load of work into this. 👍

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +9

      Thanks, David. It was a lot of work but if people find it useful then it’s worthwhile 🙂

    • @jaovao
      @jaovao 2 года назад +1

      The question is in which situation would you record your audio this way?! 😂

    • @perrunarkrogster4974
      @perrunarkrogster4974 2 года назад

      @@jaovao That’s not the point og the test.

  • @KacyDennis
    @KacyDennis 3 года назад +28

    Very well done comparison. And thank you for taking all the time to do the 100 round-trip conversion/preamp test.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @theguitarclubonline
    @theguitarclubonline 2 года назад +11

    I just upgraded to the id44 mkii from the orginal Apollo Twin. My god! the difference is massive! Great video! Thank You ! : )

    • @ZanBailey94
      @ZanBailey94 2 года назад +1

      im going do the same i have a question converter wise is it a big sound difference ?? between the to

    • @theguitarclubonline
      @theguitarclubonline 2 года назад +3

      @@ZanBailey94 To my ears clarity of Audient is a standout and stereo width is bigger. Apollo still great though. At the end of the day it's all about the music. : )

    • @ZanBailey94
      @ZanBailey94 2 года назад

      @@theguitarclubonline appreciate the reply bro

  • @mikep6967
    @mikep6967 3 года назад +18

    The recorded audio x100 test is a real testament to you effort as a reviewer. I absolutely subbed. Bravo sir. 👍🏻

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Thanks, Michael 😊🙏

    • @FUUUUU1111
      @FUUUUU1111 3 года назад +1

      yeah what a real life scenario...

  • @kumarlotus
    @kumarlotus 2 года назад +9

    The amount of work and editing you is huge. This is the video I was looking for. Thanks alot brother 😊.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      Thanks for appreciating 😊🙏

  • @MaidenOfMusic
    @MaidenOfMusic 2 года назад +17

    I'm currently in the market for a new interface, mainly for mixing clients' music, and the audio quality difference between the Apollo and Audient is almost imperceptible. I think I'll get the Audient and use the extra money to further improve the acoustic treatment in my room and tuning my monitoring system.

  • @YajsiabGaming
    @YajsiabGaming Год назад +4

    After one year used Audient iD14mkii. I am very satisfied with this product but I want to try Apollo Twin too!

  • @kenzorwings
    @kenzorwings 2 года назад +11

    You and Julian do the best things,tricks and tips for the studio gears! Respect for both!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, Kenzor. 🙏

    • @kenzorwings
      @kenzorwings 2 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne This is the reality! You're very welcome like always! 🙏

    • @kenzorwings
      @kenzorwings Год назад

      ​@@EdThorneAfter a year of purchasing an apollo solo usb I can say that it's a great interface even if it doesn't have enough dsp on the console or in the mix, but since with native I can say that it's better. I am satisfied with both it and the plugins, but I wanted it to work on mac as well. In the future I have to get at least a quad satellite. I think that for more versatility and a workflow without limitations, I have to buy an id14 mkii...

  • @isaacpezo7206
    @isaacpezo7206 3 года назад +9

    What a review!! this is gold! Im going to get the ID14 mk2. Thanks for your perfect speak english, im a Latin american person and your pronunciation make it very easy.

    • @jonathanlp64
      @jonathanlp64 3 года назад

      ¡Saludos cordiales!
      Disculpe la pregunta pero ¿de qué país es usted?
      Justo tengo una iD14 MKII a la venta y esta completamente nueva por si se encuentra interesado

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, Isaac. I’m glad it’s helpful 🙂

    • @isaacpezo7206
      @isaacpezo7206 3 года назад

      @@jonathanlp64 Chile!

    • @jonathanlp64
      @jonathanlp64 3 года назад

      @@isaacpezo7206 Oh comprendo... Soy de Guatemala

    • @HarvinderSingh-yy8th
      @HarvinderSingh-yy8th 3 года назад

      True very clear and understandable English.

  • @REALEXIT
    @REALEXIT Год назад +1

    Hi
    i can't afford apollo solo or twin
    What Would You Recommend
    SSL2 or The Audient 24
    i use it for recording music mixing also mastering

  • @martinoplaya7805
    @martinoplaya7805 3 года назад +10

    absolutely crazy review, so much work put in. now I wanna get both products 😝🥂

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +6

      It was a LOT of work. But worth it for people I hope 🙂🤘

  • @gotyor
    @gotyor Год назад +4

    I owned a studio in 90's and would make a good profit take out enough to pay bills and put the rest back into studio to keep competitive. So when plugins came about I got off the hardware train as soon as possible. And you nailed it with the comment about how skill set matters more than anything. Just master what plugins you have. With the amount you save on buying 1 piece of hardware you can buy most all the best vst plugins you will ever need. ( if you buy them on sale)

  • @modernmusicstudio303
    @modernmusicstudio303 3 года назад +5

    Very thorough comparison! Thanks for a great video! I really appreciate how you went through every feature on both!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      You’re welcome. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @h1de
    @h1de 3 года назад +22

    This dude on the RUclips machine said I needed an Apollo to win a Grammy 🤣 so I'm gonna order the Audient.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +7

      Which dude told you that? 😉

    • @Hrmnbeats
      @Hrmnbeats 3 года назад +4

      I have also seen that video. 5 things you need for home studio to win a grammy.

    • @Hrmnbeats
      @Hrmnbeats 3 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @gutenberg117
      @gutenberg117 3 года назад

      @@EdThorne ruclips.net/video/10JpbHTWt8U/видео.html

    • @gutenberg117
      @gutenberg117 3 года назад

      @@EdThorne and response : ruclips.net/video/aN1kfdik3cw/видео.html

  • @trevfisher
    @trevfisher 3 года назад +35

    When putting my latest studio together I could have afforded either of these. I chose Audient iD44. Similar sound quality, I was a bit shocked when I heard the dullness of both on the 100 times recording test, this should not put anyone off these devices. I actually preferred the sound of the Audient and it's a joy to use, doesn't try to lock me into a closed system plugin business model and is clearly head and shoulders above everything else in its price range and several hundred dollars more. The next step up from the Audient is not an Apollo or an RME, a step up from this interface is many thousands more, I believe the iD44 and the iD4 Mkii (which has very similar specs) are in the same bracket of quality of the Apollo and RME's but cost drastically less money.
    I paired mine with an ASP 800 and will eventually buy an ASP 880 to go with it. How good is this brand? I spend zero time worrying about upgrading my interfaces and won't unless I have several thousands (maybe tens of thousands) dollars spare.
    UAD seem to attract the same sort of fanboy loyalty that Apple computers do and I understand that, but the onboard DSP ain't a thing any more now the Mac M1 eats heavy plugins cross hundreds of tracks for breakfast. The Audients are not a step down in quality, check out Julian Kraus' bench testing. I can't wait for him to get the new UAD interfaces on his desk,I think we're in for a surprise, not in a good way. Pay close attention to the dynamic range in and out of the Volt.
    I love your work Ed and I hope you don't mind a fellow northerner putting his 2 penneth in.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +5

      Thanks, Trevor. Yeh the Audient stuff is great. I’m using two 880s for drum pres. the Apollo system isn’t necessarily a closed Universe but it is an expensive system I agree. Personally, I think it’s unrivalled in terms of functionality.
      Julian Krause’s review of the Volts will be interesting for sure. I believe I have a review unit arriving soon.
      PS, always good to hear from a fellow northerner. 🥳

    • @HarvinderSingh-yy8th
      @HarvinderSingh-yy8th 3 года назад +7

      Audient interfaces are Industry recommended interfaces. So what's more.

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 2 года назад

      @@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Well so is the competition lol

    • @Mopsie
      @Mopsie 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have an M1 Ultra, and when I use input monitoring in Logic, I experience significant delay, even without any effects. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but onboard DSP still seems really good, even with M1 Macs.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  6 месяцев назад

      @Mopsie You’re not meant to use input monitoring when using an Apollo. Monitor through the Console app and turn software/input monitoring OFF in Logic!!!!!

  • @andreyandrey260
    @andreyandrey260 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, thanks! Can you please tell me how important it is to bypass the built-in preamplifiers? I'm going to buy some good expensive preamp, but my card has combined microphone and line inputs. As I understand from the reviews, there is no way to bypass the built-in ones. Should I buy a preamp or will the built-in one reduce the quality of the external one? I have an Audient ID14 MK2

  • @onetwo3088
    @onetwo3088 3 года назад +6

    Absolutely great review!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Thank you 🙂🙏

  • @VST2323
    @VST2323 3 года назад +1

    does the usb changes the ad/da quality?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      No. Only the ad/da chips can affect that.

    • @VST2323
      @VST2323 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne ok thanks i just got this interface but since i dont have a usb c i have to use the usb A format just asking if it changes the sound of it.. but thanks for confirmation

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      @@VST2323 As explained in the video, what's more important, is whether the USB cable is gen 1, 2, 3.1, or 3.2. That affects the power transfer which will affect the headphone amp.

    • @VST2323
      @VST2323 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne got it thanks sooo much big saver thanks

  • @unstoppablemotivation777
    @unstoppablemotivation777 3 года назад +3

    Thank you! Amazing stuff. I had so much problems on the Apollo Twin X. I just returned it yesterday. It just was not good for my new Mac M1. Im going to get this one!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Ah, I’m sorry to hear that. It’s a convoluted install method on M1s. I had to do it twice it get it to work. The Audient is much easier to navigate and still great 🙂

    • @unstoppablemotivation777
      @unstoppablemotivation777 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne yessir I look forward to it! Thanks for msg

  • @emmanuelosafiele1918
    @emmanuelosafiele1918 Год назад +1

    Please does UAD Apollo twin work with a windows laptop? like a normal hp core i7 11th gen

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  Год назад

      There is a designated Windows model of Apollo.

  • @JayTheLane
    @JayTheLane 3 года назад +1

    Great video comparison. This channel will grow.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Thanks, Jay! Appreciated!

  • @lndndr18
    @lndndr18 3 года назад +7

    Test aside, the guitar on the converter comparison sounds amazing wow

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      That’s David D’Andrade on guitar (check out his Insta). You can hear the full track here: open.spotify.com/album/3WZWJfHlOkTDy9faRObW8j?si=02FUnYzVR8atC0PBXpB6SQ&dl_branch=1

  • @paweplinta1565
    @paweplinta1565 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for checking what I asked. Now, I can see it clearly, I should buy an apollo and an audient. Greetings!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the good question. I hope I pronounced your name correctly, forgive me if I didn’t 🙂

    • @paweplinta1565
      @paweplinta1565 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne Perfect. Thank you!

  • @jensenames
    @jensenames Год назад +1

    Thank you! iD4 or 14 is the best one for price!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  Год назад

      Go by how many inputs/outputs you need over price.

    • @jensenames
      @jensenames Год назад

      @@EdThorne sure thing 😊

  • @staiain
    @staiain 2 года назад +1

    I'm considering the id14, will i be able to apply mono so that the audio input in windows combines both microphone signal without having to use dsp or additional software?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      You can’t combine mic signals on any audio interface, that’s not how preamps work. You can link inputs to become stereo on the Apollo, but then they would be panned left and right. You need software at some point to mix the channels together for your output pathway (master bus, headphones, Loopback, etc).

    • @staiain
      @staiain 2 года назад

      @@EdThorne I'm looking for a bit of a niche usecase where i want two microphones in two different rooms to be mixed together to a dual mono/mono configuration that shows up in windows sound devices directly via usb for use with a software that doesn't provide any setting to mix microphone down to mono. I tried the scarlett 4i4 but that sends the microphones to left and right, and if i choose 1 channel in the device settings, it only sends 1 microphone. Arethere no affordable hardwware that could do something like this in the audio space? I'm completely new to this so sorry if this could sound a bit dumb.
      tl;dr I want to record live vocieover of gameplay through a softwware called nvidia shadowplay and keep the centered microphone voiceover and not having to swwitch mic physically when i play on my tv or desk setup.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад +1

      @@staiain The Evo 4 has a Loopback function, but requires the mixer app to configure.

  • @AlexeySolovievMusic
    @AlexeySolovievMusic 3 года назад +4

    Super awesome video bro! You are the best! 😀👍🔥🔥🔥

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Alexey. This one took a whike

  • @mikefuzzbino
    @mikefuzzbino 2 года назад +1

    Hi there would the audient be great interface for the Genelec 8010 monitors?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      Yes. It’s got decent converters.

  • @faithhopelove6945
    @faithhopelove6945 8 месяцев назад

    Wonderful Review 👌, i would always go with Audient..."💫
    Can U tell me where i can hear the complete Track od the Backgroundmusic?
    Thanks😃

  • @GranulatedStuff
    @GranulatedStuff 3 года назад +1

    I'm glad you mentioned the phase shift on the x100 Audient. It made me wince.

  • @SirDolittle
    @SirDolittle 3 года назад +7

    Interresting how the apollo smoothes out the harsh signature of the music in the loopback test...the audient sounds very kitchen radio like, but the apollo adds a nice pillow effect. I actually prefer the apollo loopback to the mastered file, as it has way more soul and makes it sound much more interresting. Maybe 30-50 passes would make a good compromise of fidelity and vibe?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      This was 50 (or 100 passes, I can’t remember).

  • @marcelovins
    @marcelovins 2 года назад +1

    its great, man!

  • @YoureNowOnTV
    @YoureNowOnTV Год назад +1

    The converter comparison test has me a little confused. Is it like holding a mirror up to a mirror to see the reflectivity quality? 🤔

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  Год назад +1

      The point is to amplify the effects of the signal degradation caused by the components. It’s an non-real life test but highlights the subtle difference in conversion and preamp influence.

    • @YoureNowOnTV
      @YoureNowOnTV Год назад +1

      @@EdThorne Makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Your efforts are appreciated! 😀👍

  • @davidk3872
    @davidk3872 3 года назад +4

    very interesting video, can you please compare the apollo twin x with the apogee desktop and the RME babyface pro fs, thanks

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      I’ll see what I can do 👌

    • @davidk3872
      @davidk3872 3 года назад

      @@EdThorne Thank you

  • @Rich7714
    @Rich7714 3 месяца назад

    Oh, one more question please!!! In your Audient iD14 review video (I think it was the non-MKII), you said we'd need to plug in the power supply in order to use the Phantom Power. But is this "MKII" model the same? Can I record with my condenser mic (Audio Technicha AT2020) which needs Phantom Power) by using the USB Thunderbolt connection on my computer??? Or must I use the power supply?
    (I use a Dell XPS 15 9560 PC laptop which has Thunderbolt connectivity, by the way.)
    Thank you for any help mate!😅😆

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 месяца назад +1

      The MkI required the power supply to use phantom power. The MKII is fully buss powered.

    • @Rich7714
      @Rich7714 3 месяца назад

      @EdThorne Oh, brilliant! Thanks for answering mate, I appreciate it 👍 🙏

  • @ddandrade
    @ddandrade 3 года назад +2

    This is such a great review! Loving the Audient !

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Thanks maaaate! The audient is awesome. So good for the money.

  • @noradrenalinrecords
    @noradrenalinrecords Год назад

    Thanks for the great video. I interested about not id14 , id44 Audient and the original cables interfaces is 2.0 ...its better to buy other cable USB C-A 3.2 for a great quality ? Headphones Monitoring ? ( I used Beyeardynamic 700 pro X).. Its Amazing why originaly cable not a 3.2

  • @SuspiciousSalad
    @SuspiciousSalad 3 года назад +6

    Just ordered the MKii yesterday (:

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +2

      Nice. You won’t be disappointed.

  • @Rich7714
    @Rich7714 3 месяца назад

    Can someone tell me if the Apollo DSP is necessary for someone who composes in a DAW using a MIDI keyboard with VSTs? Or is this really aimed at non-MIDI instrumentalists (e.g. guitarists/drummers)?
    Does the Apollo handle the VSTs already on my computer, or does it only handle its own company plug-ins?

  • @piotrkolasa182
    @piotrkolasa182 Год назад

    So I have ID14 mk II and it’s connected via external monitor’s usb 3.0 hub. Therefore I looked for A to C cables and got ones with “3.0” specifications…nevertheless- I’m getting that distortion at max volume on my HD600. So I tested the ID14 connected stright to MacBook with a thick Thunderbolt cable- and distortion was indeed gone. Now - I would never need this much volume. Question is - does this distortion appears only when on max volume or it’s there even at lower volumes but is just harder to hear?

  • @tinylittlefilms3043
    @tinylittlefilms3043 2 года назад

    Would you consider reviewing the Sound Devices MixPre 3 II?

  • @EstudioNiguita
    @EstudioNiguita 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much for the video, I will buy the Audient iD14. I will only work with mixing and mastering and recording vocals and guitar. I'm starting now and I think it will suit me very well according to your video.
    I really liked your image quality, which camera are you using?

  • @kanedmx
    @kanedmx 7 месяцев назад

    i have akg k702 ..please tell me which one have more headphones gain for akg k702

  • @mark-ze4en
    @mark-ze4en 3 года назад +1

    do you have any videos on copying a DAW to an external hard drive SSD for portability. I am using REAPER.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      No, but isn't that a simple 'Save As' (and change location) process...?

    • @mark-ze4en
      @mark-ze4en 3 года назад

      @@EdThorne wTching the video it would seem like it but,,, not working for some reason.

  • @jasonjohnson3577
    @jasonjohnson3577 3 года назад +1

    Excellent, Ed!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Glad you liked it!

  • @demetrioerrigo6314
    @demetrioerrigo6314 2 года назад

    Great video. I have a question (I'm a beginner sorry) if I need to send signal audio from my Strymon Iridium in Line mode to the interface, do I have to select something in the interface software for select Line input rather than mic? I need to use a 6,3 jack from my Iridium to the interface. thank you

  • @xHowler
    @xHowler Год назад +1

    What about the Volt 2 and 2 76?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  Год назад

      Also great. Several vids on my channel about these.

  • @SalvaVentura
    @SalvaVentura Год назад +1

    Audient ID14 MKII or Focusrite Clarett+ 2Pre?? Opinions please??

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  Год назад +1

      The Clarett+ probably has fractionally better converters and preamps but the HP is weak and it doesn’t have monitor control software. Go with what’s more important to you 🙂🔥

    • @SalvaVentura
      @SalvaVentura Год назад

      @@EdThorne finally I've opted for the Audient......ID44 MKII, worth it!! Thank you!!!! 🖖👽

  • @naufrago7676
    @naufrago7676 2 года назад

    How much guitars can I put in the line with the ID14mkII, at the same time? Just one?

  • @victorsanchezrecamales7537
    @victorsanchezrecamales7537 Год назад

    Hola un saludo desde España 🙌🙌 me gustaría hacerle una pregunta, tengo una apogee duet 2 grabó guitarras flamencas, clásicas con un neuman km184, podría mejorar mi sonido con una audient id14 o Apollo twin ? Todo el mundo me habla bien de mi apogee duet 2 pero pienso que es muy antigua y no sé si estos modelos más modernos podrían darme un salto de calidad ? Muchas gracias ayudame 😅😅😅

  • @-LSTR-
    @-LSTR- Год назад +1

    I think I need this, thanks

  • @juanreales986
    @juanreales986 3 года назад +1

    Great vid! Thanks a lot man!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      You are very welcome, thanks for watching :-)

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 3 года назад +1

    What do you think about Antelope. They also have onboard plugins i believe. Thanks for the excellent video.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +2

      I think the ZenGo is a fantastic interface, and serious competition for both of these devices. The preamps are probably cleaner, and the converters are very clean and detailed. You can use more plugins on each channel strip with the Antelope over the Apollo because their plugins are less DSP intensive when used as inserts. The Apollo has Unison technology which physically re-configures the impedance and gain staging of the preamps to replicate the analog hardware they're emulating - and it does this very well! The Apollo is still more advanced in terms of monitoring (although the Antelope is probably the second most advanced system I've seen), but the ZenGo allows you to record a wet and dry copy of each input channel which is awesome! I may do a full comparison video on all this.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      @BillyFreethought See here 🙂 ruclips.net/video/MV9Gz8m7hUc/видео.html

  • @edvard-egilsson
    @edvard-egilsson 3 года назад +1

    Great information here, thank you!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful 🙂

  • @handsdown5x
    @handsdown5x 3 года назад +125

    Almost a $600 difference for a Similar sound ! I’ll go with the Audient !!!

    • @lastWhiteKingdom
      @lastWhiteKingdom 3 года назад +23

      The preamp quality is almost the same on all audio interface currently. But the apollo is not only an audio interface it is mainly a power full DSP which handle in real time many power full plug ins. If you are not interest by UAD plugin for sure you better keep your money. But check the quality of the Bass amp or Guitar or reverb uad plug in, it can change your mind.

    • @nayuki2020
      @nayuki2020 3 года назад +11

      I'd say save up $1000 more and go for the apollo. It's more of an eco system than just an audio interface.

    • @seadffsa
      @seadffsa 3 года назад +6

      ahh but if you're a vocalist you'd be missing out on the most amazing feedback of your life. real time autotuning and mixing is heavenly

    • @reddeadryan78
      @reddeadryan78 3 года назад +5

      The Apollo is much better. Don't be fooled

    • @handsdown5x
      @handsdown5x 3 года назад +14

      I don’t use plugins . I use external for everything . I just believe the real deal sounds better than plug ins for my opinion. So I rather go for the Audient

  • @MarcNevali
    @MarcNevali 3 года назад +10

    The specs on the chart are wrong
    Mic input dyn range:
    - Apollo = 118 db
    - audient =113 db
    Mic input Noise
    - Apollo = - 127 db
    - audient = - 129 db
    With Apollo you basically pay the software and the DSP capabilities.. But there is not much difference in the Hardware compartment..
    Thanks for the video, well done

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Double check the labelling on the chart👌 (Also check which models you/I am referring to)

    • @petteriluukkonen3140
      @petteriluukkonen3140 3 года назад +1

      I noticed the same thing. Something wrong about those specs. Audient ID14 MK2: Mic input dynamic range is 113,1 dBu (J. Krause...), no 101 dBu as Ed said. But otherwise good info.

  • @dieterkalt4281
    @dieterkalt4281 3 года назад +1

    where is the end jingle sound from ?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Epidemic Sounds, my friend 👌

  • @Projamusic
    @Projamusic 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video great work.
    I have a problem when recording gibson explorer with passive T500 magnets, my signal clip though no matter how I set the gain pots. This is not the case when I record Harley Benton P bass.
    Do you connect the guitar directly to the card or do you have some DI to reduce the input signal?
    Do you have this experience with any of your guitars with passive electronics?
    What pickups did you record with?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      Thanks, I hope the video was helpful. I don’t play guitar so can’t comment on pickups. Are you using the Hi-Z input on your interface for the Gibson? And are you using an amp sim before it?

    • @Projamusic
      @Projamusic 2 года назад +1

      ​@@EdThorne Yes, I connected the guitar direct to the front instrument input. But the signal clips without any additions to the signal and without amplifier simulations.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      @@Projamusic The instrument input should have a Hi-Z selector switch to introduce a higher impedance circuit for hi gain inputs such as your guitar. A DI box can also do this.

    • @Projamusic
      @Projamusic 2 года назад

      @@EdThorne This Audient Id14 dont have Hi-Z selector switch. Scarlet 2i2 dont have this issue. Bad for Audient!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      @@Projamusic The iD14s have a JFET Hi-Z input on the front panel.

  • @JoseGRendons
    @JoseGRendons 2 года назад

    Can you please compare the Arturia Mini Fuse & Micro Fuse to this two?

  • @dunar6772
    @dunar6772 3 года назад +1

    Also nice the Austrian Audio OC818 pair ... Thank you for your review.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Beautiful mics! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @hemantakakati1103
    @hemantakakati1103 3 года назад +2

    since ssl2 is similarly priced to audient id14 which is better for di ?

  • @arnavnm29
    @arnavnm29 3 месяца назад

    Can it power hd 650 properly??? 10:42

  • @Luchodela
    @Luchodela Год назад

    Hi! I'm being offered an Apollo Twin Duo (heritage edition), but no "X" at $540. Should it be the MK2 or previous version? Would it be worth the money? Thanks.

  • @thefam9179
    @thefam9179 2 года назад

    You couldn’t tell a difference in sound using your sennheiser 650? Would there be a difference if used an affordable dedicated Dac and amp?

  • @pinnacleren4389
    @pinnacleren4389 2 года назад

    When using Ableton Live 11, will the Apollo leverage the onboard DSPs for processing Ableton virtual instruments and plugins or are the DSPs only limited to processing UAD plugins? Thank you.

  • @sKyz000
    @sKyz000 3 года назад +2

    Audient iD14mkii vs sll 2+ wich one I should buy?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Personally I’d go for the Audient because the monitoring is better. But arguably the SSL comes with nicer plugins…

    • @HarvinderSingh-yy8th
      @HarvinderSingh-yy8th 3 года назад +2

      ID14MKII is Industry recommended.

  • @marcpeiron_studio
    @marcpeiron_studio 2 года назад +1

    Hey great review. I have a doubt. You say to choose an interface with usb 3 to improve headphone monitoring. But the Audient one is only usb2.0. When you do the test you compare different cables, not protocols. So in conclusion, it's better to use the usb C cable instead of the usb A? Is that what makes the difference? Thanks!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад +1

      Yeh I tried a USB-2.0 and 3.1 cable and there is a power supply difference which affects the amps (only slightly but it was audible).

    • @marcpeiron_studio
      @marcpeiron_studio 2 года назад

      @@EdThorne But a usb 3.1 cable into a USB 2.0 interface you mean? Is this cable included or you bought it separately? I assume they include two usb2.0 cables (one type A and one type C) thanks!

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      @@marcpeiron_studio I had one lying around. Not provided I don’t think.

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 3 года назад +1

    Hi Ed do you recommend using a DI box with the Audient. Or is it fine without.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      You shouldn't need a DI box with an interface - that's what the interface is for.

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW 3 года назад +1

    Wow the loop playback was very surprising.

  • @KivancKilicer
    @KivancKilicer 9 месяцев назад

    Hi, thanks for the great video. I am looking everywhere and can't find the answer to this question. I am using way too many VST instruments, have 6-7 Kontakt windows open along with Superior drummer etc. My question is this: Does the DSP in UAD Apollo or any DSP sound interface support the computer processing power while using VSTis, or DSP only gives support to CPU ONLY for the mixing plugins like UAD plugins?

  • @mialarssen2627
    @mialarssen2627 9 месяцев назад

    How to use a Guitar Instead of a Mic for Inserts (Sends & Returns)iD24. I connected my guitar to use it with a Compressor Console, but the sound went Off!

  • @pr3lude2tragedy
    @pr3lude2tragedy 3 года назад

    It's between the volt 276 and the id14 for me. Any thoughts?

  • @stanz1n594
    @stanz1n594 3 года назад +2

    Hey is it because of how its played or did the Apollo sounded more expressive and better than id 14 in DI input test? this kind of worries me if i should get it or not.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Shrewd observation. The performances are virtually identical.

    • @stanz1n594
      @stanz1n594 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne Okay 😊 thx for the reply

  • @MarcellVeldt
    @MarcellVeldt 3 года назад +19

    I ordered my audient id14 mk2 and after watching this video I think it was a great choice. Obviously Apollo is better but it's not necessary in your home studio. It's such a great alternative! I'm a little shocked how fast technology is going forward. Thanks Ed for you comparison. It was really helpful. Greetings from Poland! 😁

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +4

      Hi Marcell, the iD14mkii is a great interface! A sound choice and investment. Thanks for watching 🙂🙏

    • @HarvinderSingh-yy8th
      @HarvinderSingh-yy8th 3 года назад +4

      Audient interfaces are Industry recommended. So you went right

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 2 года назад

      @putalawea equisde you can make 20K a year and get that lol

    • @insertanynameyouwant5311
      @insertanynameyouwant5311 2 года назад

      do you still use it with no problems? I want to get ID4 as I don't need more channels, but I`ve heard many people having different malfunctioning problems with Audient line and bad technical support

  • @uniquetune0101
    @uniquetune0101 3 года назад +1

    What a review !! GREAT :-)

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      Glad you liked it 🙂

  • @davidmarley8387
    @davidmarley8387 3 года назад +1

    Do your prefer the mk2 interface instead ok x version of the Apollo interface

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      These are two of my favourite interfaces but the reality is, although the Audient mixer app is fantastic, the Apollo monitoring functionality is far superior. The ability to monitor through UAD plugins AND print these to your audio with zero latency is unbelievable.

  • @mghareeb1000
    @mghareeb1000 2 года назад

    Can you compare with usb pre 2 and why the price is too high ?

  • @ididots
    @ididots 3 года назад +2

    Awesome review with great production values. The only thing missing is a test of the Apollo headphone output. Rumor has it that it’s too weak to drive 250 ohm headphones and above. I know the Audient can deliver in that department (both via USB3 or the old generation w/ external power supply), but the Apollo Solo/Twin headphone output seems almost like a taboo topic with very few online discussions and no real consensus. I’d hate unboxing a premium interface only to find it barely audible in my BD DT-880 250 ohms, especially knowing the Audient can handle it.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +2

      My comparison of the headphone outputs is at 8:26 in the video. There's very little difference and both can handle high impedance headphones well, although you will need most, if not all of the output. The Apollo headphone is not affected by thunderbolt power transfer because it is mains power supplied, so there's no need to do that test.

    • @josemendezfr
      @josemendezfr 3 года назад +4

      I can drive my 300 ohm HD650's

  • @LeonRikalo
    @LeonRikalo 3 года назад +1

    Thats the funniest pronunciation of my name hahah😁
    Thank you for comparing di inputs. Great review as always ☺️👍

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Aaah, I’m sorry, Leon, forgive me. Thanks for the question. How should it be pronounced phonetically?

    • @LeonRikalo
      @LeonRikalo 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne its not wrong it just sounds funny to me😁. Im from Croatia and we dont speak English here so I dont hear english version of my name that much often. Dont worry about it ❤️😁.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      @@LeonRikalo Haha, ok. 🙂

  • @victoralexandersilva5212
    @victoralexandersilva5212 3 года назад +1

    i've heard that the Audient ID14mkii doesn't work on OS Big Sur.... is that true? i have a macbook pro M1 and i would love to purchase the device, it would be a pity not being to do it because of software incompatibility

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +2

      It works fine on Big Sur and M1. Software too 🙂

  • @cesargonzalezbueno3359
    @cesargonzalezbueno3359 2 года назад +11

    I didn't perceive a huge sound quality difference between these two contenders. Either one will do the job.

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 2 года назад +5

      I think that’s the point, Apollo Twin only cost more because of DSP and Functionalities + it’s an Apple device lol, so you know how that go but sound quality is about the same

  • @deans.4705
    @deans.4705 2 года назад +2

    Had an apollo but purchased an id44 later. I prefer the warmness that the mic pres add. That is confirmed in the 100x loop test here which would never represent real world situations. As well, I wouldn't ever describe it as signal degradation as the Audient pres are well known to add warm color which is something some people look for on a recording. I found the uad sterile without adding a unison pre. Uad is a money sink when adding proprietary plugs so i jumped ship. All in all, they are both great though. The comparison here is a little misleading. You can't really compare pricing as outlined as you will be spending much more on the uad for plugins to fill out its capabilities. The audient is a basic soundcard without the added expense. Great video. I did bounce back and forth between 15:50 and 16:30 and there really isn't that much a difference in sound between the 100 pass tests. To me at least. The audient really is a lot of bang for the buck.

    • @arupsircar4855
      @arupsircar4855 Год назад

      Absolutely ! would certainly prefer id 14 mk2..a bang for the buck..

  • @RishabhShukla-ed1tk
    @RishabhShukla-ed1tk 2 года назад

    Audient iD14 with Cloud lifter or Apollo Twin without cloud lifter? (Asking suggestion for my SM7B)

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      You don’t need one with either. iD interface have 10dB of digital gain available on each channel in the iD mixer App. Some UA Unison preamps have up to 72dB of gain. Plenty.

  • @TeionZ
    @TeionZ 3 года назад +1

    Hey! Can the AUDIENT iD14 mkii be sufficient enough to power the NEUMAN 103 at an optimal level?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +2

      Absolutely. The 103 is a condenser mic which typically has a high output and the iD14mkii has 58dB of preamp input gain which is loads for a condenser. Plus, there’s an additional 10dB of digital gain available on each channel in the iD Mixer App. That’s a great recording combination 👌🔥

    • @TeionZ
      @TeionZ 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne Ed you're a star. love the quick response also!
      Also another question:
      Shall I use this combo on FL Studio or Logic? (Soley for Recording rap and singing Vocals, mixing and mastering to an already made beat, and would prefer to stick to the stock plugins on both DAWS).
      Which one you reckon?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      @@TeionZ I’ve been using Logic for 15 years, and I haven’t used FL Studio so I can’t really comment fairly but Logic is considered up there with ProTools and used in professional studios for many good reasons. See if you can get a demo of both and see which feels best. Logic probably has an instrument sample library larger than all the other DAWs put together too, it’s immense!

    • @TeionZ
      @TeionZ 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne ah okay my friend, thank you very much! Will get that Combo for sure. Then will find some more answers on which DAW - I subbed btw!

  • @citizenworld8094
    @citizenworld8094 3 года назад +1

    Should I sell my Audient iD14 Mark ONE for the Mark Two?

  • @godfreyassenga9958
    @godfreyassenga9958 Год назад +6

    I could perceive the depth of the Apollo on the bass guitar test- more depth than the Audient, maybe not a deal breaker but if you listen close enough, you might hear- or rather, feel it.

    • @PalEllingsen
      @PalEllingsen Год назад +1

      Yeah, and the bus processed drums had much much clearer high end with the Apollo. You could really hear the hi hat come alive, as the audient sounded a bit more dead and sterile in the hi Department. Imo.

    • @gettingstuffdoneright5332
      @gettingstuffdoneright5332 Месяц назад

      Does the Apollo sound three times as good? Does that improvement get lost in the crappy playback of earbuds, cellphone speakers, etc? Most folks are listening on systems that are barely "good enough", which from a budget/practicality point of view indicates an interface which is more than good enough is plenty. I think the iD14 & iD24 Mk II models are the obvious no-brainer choices at their price points, and punch well above the "good enough" weight. Put the money you don't spend in room treatment, get the sound ID reference software yourself, upgrade your headphones, get a used FMR Audio RNC and start integrating some analog gear, I hate waves but the Nx Ocean Way Nashville & Abbey Road studio emulations are brilliant. All of that will have a much more profound impact on the quality of your music than the choice of a $300 or $1,000 interface.

  • @lazyrobotlabs
    @lazyrobotlabs 2 года назад +1

    Honestly the only way I could see myself going up from my Audient ID14MKII would be to go to an Appolo system - but that's not something I can justify until music is my day job and not my night job

  • @garyspianocovers6684
    @garyspianocovers6684 3 года назад

    I’m looking to upgrade my FR Solo for my live-streaming piano on twitch. I am overwhelmed and have thought about at least six interfaces but can’t make a decision. Looking for something wit midi, at least 2 inputs preferable more, sterling sound with good headroom that doesn’t clip. Hopefully this video might help me out. Watching now.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      The UA Volt might be of interest. Or if you need a LoopBack feature for streaming, check out the Evo by Audient - don't be fooled by it's price - it is one of the best performing interfaces!

  • @marcoselmalo4470
    @marcoselmalo4470 3 года назад +1

    Great job!!! I have my audient in home. Maybe I check the new generation of Apollos

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад +1

      Thanks, Marcos. I hope I pronounced your name correctly, please forgive me if I didn’t 🙂

    • @marcoselmalo4470
      @marcoselmalo4470 3 года назад

      @@EdThorne perfect pronunciation. Don't worry. Greetings from Spain

  • @adams.555
    @adams.555 3 года назад +1

    Any of them work with iPod?

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      iPod or iPad? The Evo’s by Audient work with iPad Pro’s.

    • @adams.555
      @adams.555 3 года назад

      @@EdThorne thanks

  • @zak-of-all-trades9638
    @zak-of-all-trades9638 3 года назад +1

    Will the UAD interfaces (i.e. Twin X Duo) blow out a set of Active speakers (Monitor out, fed from Optical, or TB3 in/

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      I don't know why you'd push them hard enough to find out...

    • @zak-of-all-trades9638
      @zak-of-all-trades9638 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorne Haven't yet; I'm currently conducting research into which speakers work best with a UAD, without the need for a separate amplifier.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      @@zak-of-all-trades9638 Ah, ok. Both these devices has MEGA loud speakers outputs. I’ve used KRKs, Adam’s and Neumanns with the Apollo and all work and sound great.

    • @zak-of-all-trades9638
      @zak-of-all-trades9638 3 года назад +1

      @@EdThorneWhat about Klipsch? I just don't want to spend my money on active speakers that will be blown out by an Apollo, or passive speakers that will be essentially useless without it.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  3 года назад

      @@zak-of-all-trades9638 I don’t know Klipsch. Active speakers these days are really good and won’t blow up easily. Passive speakers depend on impedance and power rating also difficult to blow but require some user knowledge of the above.

  • @samueloluyinkaojomu6548
    @samueloluyinkaojomu6548 3 года назад

    How would you compare the Audient Id14 MKi vs the focusrite 2i2 3rd gen in terms of audio quality

    • @Andersrain
      @Andersrain 3 года назад +2

      audient its far better!
      but i prefer ssl2

  • @trevorhayden5288
    @trevorhayden5288 2 года назад

    Thank you very much...

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      You’re welcome. I hope it was helpful.

  • @sbbperson
    @sbbperson 2 года назад +1

    this video is great

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      Thanks. I hope it’s helpful.

  • @SoccerQuiz-lv7gm
    @SoccerQuiz-lv7gm Год назад

    Does anyone have experience using "Pro Tools" and "Reason" on Audient id14? Thank you

  • @matthewwolf1793
    @matthewwolf1793 2 года назад +1

    Hey Ed. I've been comparing an Apollo Twin X Thunderbolt with an Apogee Symphony Desktop. As clean as the Apogee is, I actually quite like the slightly more open sound of the Apollo vs the somewhat 'squashed' sound of the Apogee (almost like a dynamic mic sound-at least to my ear). Plus have had the issue with the Symphony where sometimes when I unplug, and come back after a time, it fails to be read by my Mac and I have to restart the interface.
    However, my question is whether you know anything about the audible slight popping when increasing or decreasing the gain on the Apollo... seems to track exactly with each level up, and crucially it gets recorded! I searched a bit and see others have had this exact issue, with no solution. Sometimes I need to ride my gain while recording, so this becomes a problem. Wonder if you had any thoughts...? Cheers.

    • @EdThorne
      @EdThorne  2 года назад

      Hi Matthew. I know exactly what you mean about the squashed feeling of the Apogee interfaces. Re the gain popping, just out of interest, why are you changing the gain mid-performance? And, are you using a Unison preamp when this is happening?

    • @matthewwolf1793
      @matthewwolf1793 2 года назад

      @@EdThorne Hey Ed. Thanks for your reply. I do a fair amount of Looping/ADR work, which sometimes might involve a scene where we're shouting and then settle down to speaking level, etc... It's not often but happens on occasion. When you say about the Unison, isn't that the preamp that is inside the Apollo? Ta

    • @matthewwolf1793
      @matthewwolf1793 2 года назад

      Hey Ed. Sorry, in answer to your question about the Unison... NO, not applied... Just straight out of the interface as is...

  • @FelixMolano
    @FelixMolano 3 года назад +2

    Why haven't I hot the bell yet? Hitting the bell now. Ding Dong. Tinnitus here. lol

    • @theexile1155
      @theexile1155 3 года назад

      You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9).
      HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)

  • @Fistful0fSteel
    @Fistful0fSteel 2 года назад +1

    Seems like 2 Hi-Z inputs of Interfaces like the Focusrite 2i2 is quite the killer feature for some. I don't want to go back to only having 1...