"Disappointing" cars doesn't mean they're necessarily bad cars, they just didn't live up to the expectations. The 2020 Supra isn't a bad car. But by using the name Supra it should stay in the same league with the GTR and NSX like before.
“Supra went from embarrassing Ferrari’s”, yes in highly modified form. The 1994 tt Supra costs $44,000 ($76,000 in 2020), it was sluggish in stock form compared to rivals in its price range. If it wasn’t for bmw the mk5 Supra would have never happened because of the the cost to develop a new chassis and “3jz” engine. The engine in the mk5 Supra has proved easily tunable and mod friendly, the engine can make up to 700hp without having to upgrade the internals. In no way is the new Supra a total disappointment, the old mk4 just has a cult following of 12yr fanboys that think they come factory with a 1000hp.
Finally sombody said it right. I just cannot and could not fathom how anybody thought the standard mk4 supra was a great car. It was average at best. The mk5 is a great car in standard form. And yes you are right about them 12 year old boys.... those guys probably still have semi nude poster girls stuck on their bedroom walls. As you dad would say...."grow up son"
I DEF AGREE WITH THE SUPRA IT LOOKS AWESOME yes but it isn’t really the old model at all it’s slower smaller and dosent have the wing it’s cool yes but idk I just don’t think it’s up to par with the old one the old one was super cool but still the 2020 GR Supra is cool just not as cool as the old one
@j 1 I disagree with part about e65, it wasn’t nice for a lot of people but it isn’t photogenic car, looks much better in reality, iDrive isn’t so complicated as it is said and when you look at comparison to other cars at that time it was way ahead as they tried to do something different, I would rather put e-class or s-class of that time at this list before e65, but it is all matter of taste here
Dude the stock Supra never emberrassed Ferraris, lets be real here. In their nostalgia a lot of people are comparing built and tuned MK4's to the stock MK5.
@TopCars TV Well, first off, an 830hp Ferrari is considered the baby Ferrari. Stock supras (MK4 and MK5) ain’t reaching that. The 90s were a different time. The MK5 is still relatively fast, but fanboys are shaming it because it uses bmw parts. The MK4 sourced parts from Yamaha, so that isn’t fully in house either.
BRUH the 400Z is a prototype/concept car, not a production car yet Many auto manufacturers made several concept cars with multiple phases (yes including the GT86 with 3 phases and LFA which had almost a decade of making it into a production car after several phases since 2001)
I think people in the comment section should check what disappointing means, let’s take a example from the video like the Gr Supra, yea it’s a awesome car and it’s very fun to drive but it was not what we wanted
I have decided that this channel is one of two things, a channel by someone who doesn't like, and doesn't know anything about cars, or a person who also doesn't give a shit about cars but is knowledgeable enough to produce automotive click bait.
@@Hi-Capa_Gold_Watch The new supra has ~380hp and the old one has ~320hp lol what are you on about, also wing doesnt even matter, considering the A80 is a GT not a track oriented car, but a top speed straight road oriented car.
I just don’t get why everyone hates the new supra? The supras have always been different between generations so why do people expect it to be the same as the old one?
I think most people don’t like how the Supra was made after the Z4. People wanted Toyota to make their own Supra. It doesn’t have to be the same thing as the old Supra but it doesn’t have to be a BMW.
@@paccin339 well, at the time when I got it, my need for a car outweighed a lot other things Especially the color of what my car is which is White and I'm not a fan of vehicles that they main exterior body color is White for a number of reasons
Outro part: Maserati Biturbo: due to it's boring sedan like styling and lousy build quality. Jaguar XJ220: because absence of four wheel drive and the V12 engine from the concept, and came in the twin turbocharged V6 engine and rear wheel drive only... Cadillac XLR: I'm not entirely sure about it's reason why it failed but it might be it's outrageous price tag and lackluster presence of quality and performance.
You are right. The. Maserati Biturbo was a competitor to the BMW M3 E30 but it was worse in every metric. The Jaguar XJ220 was an cool car but it had an V6 and rwd drivetrain instead of the promised V12 and awd drivetrain. The Cadillac XLR and XLR-V were based of the 2004 Chevrolet Corvette C6 but unlike the Chevy, both the XLR and XLR-V lacked performance quality and they were overpriced.
I understand that mk5 supra is disappointing, because there's a little amount of toyota in this car. But it's still great as a car, handles well, tunes well, looks well too(in my opinion). The new supra is just different. Moreover, the stock mk4 supra is underpowered gt car, whereas the mk5 supra is more of a precise machine to cut corners. And the last thing, did you seriously call Lexus LFA the new supra? LFA is the high-revving supercar, the piece of art, whereas the mk4 supra is just a nice sportcar.
6:42 I totally agree. The older BMW's were very pretty. The crap they sell today is unbelievable ugly compared to the 80ies and 90ies. Sorry, that's my opinion.
@@handofmud144 yeah, even if Im more into Italian cars than german cars, i really gotta Say that i have a mad respect for older bmws, but the new ones literally lost thier phylosophy after 2010. BMW now its more chinise than german.
The Supra is defenetly *not* a let down. It may have some BMW parts but the truth is, Toyota did most of the tuning, the body, exhaust, chassis and a whole lot more. The B58 is exactly what a modern 2jz (3jz) would be. Just a simple 3L i6 turbo. It performs very well around tracks and functions great as a daily driver. Just because the GTR and NSX evolved into _Supercars_ doesn't mean that the A90 doesn't have any Supra essence. It truly lives up to the Supra name wich stands for a fun, tuner friendly sportscar wich has plenty of power but will offer a lot more, *if you desire* . It sounds amazing and looks great aswell. Just because the internet tells you to hate it doesn't mean you have to. It has all the Supra spirit it needs to be a true Supra and that's all that matters. If you don't like it because you just aren't into that kind of vehicle or are not a fan of it at all that's OK but if you're against it because the internet hates on it cause of the BMW components than that's just unfair. The Huracan also has a different manufacturer engine but is still considered a lamborghini. Thanks for coming to my presentation
Same with the McLaren F1. It’s kinda confusing when people hate on the Supra for having like 5 stock BMW parts on it but then a car with an entire BMW engine is seen as a legend
@@ToyotaGRYaris22 well. The Supra does have a full BMW engine. They could have build a 3JZ but that posed a to big of a risk. If the Supra wouldn't sell with a Toyota build engine the company is at risk. So they rather went safe over making the internet happy. But the F1 is a legend and the most timeless and beautiful car ever
@@idknils2920 I agree with your opinion on the F1. I’m not a massive fan of the F1, but I respect it. The thing I was trying to say was the fact that if a car has a different brand engine that shouldn’t mean that it’s 100 percent the brand that made the engine.
A 2009 Citroen C4 Loeb is a pretty huge fail. It was supposed to be a model to celebrate Sebastian Loeb and how he managed to keep a 100% win rate on tarmac tracks in WRC with a C4 WRC. So what did they give us? A road legal WRC, 300 hp 2 litre engine and AWD? No. A turbo 1.6 litre which made less power than a naturally aspirated 2 litre VTS and it was still FWD. Fuck Citroen for never making any actual sporty roadcars
I inherited my dad's '16 Mitsubishi Mirage. It was the worst car I've ever driven. It's tiny tires looked like they belonged on wheelbarrows. Braking and handling were subpar even for a cheap car. The three cylinder engine was truly pathetic. Plus it was built in Thailand, which saved Japan from a lot of embarrassment. On the plus side, it got almost 40mpg and could hold a surprising amount of cargo...as long as it didn't need to get somewhere fast.
The MK5 Supra ain’t that disappointing, the first 3 gens were kinda boring. The MK4 was like Messi and CR7, it got us used to exceptional and we got way too high hopes for anyone who dared replace them. Plus, apparently, Toyota could be working with the Supra to put a 2JZ under the hood
I don't mind that the new Supra is smaller than the old one at all; performance-wise it is quite capable and sits well with its predecessors. I'll even overlook the silly fake vents. What I feel lets it down is the soft, comfort-oriented GT setup it inherits from the Z4. Make it firm. Give it responsive steering with lots of feedback. A manual gearbox would be nice too.
The Mustang Mach E is number 1 most disappointing creation in existence currently, but may lose the most disappointing podium to the new Dodge EV SRT and it’s super cheesy engine sound simulator. The new supra just looks like a Miata, old Supra was such a sexy car!
The new Defender is definitely a letdown. First of all it doesn't remotely look like the old Defender. Second, it isn't what a Defender is supposed to be. A Defender is supposed to be a barebones cheap rugged off-roader that farmers can afford to carry shit. The new one is just another luxury 4X4 like the Evoque. They turned the most rugged and tough car Britain produced into a soccer mom mobile
The only people the new Supra disappointed is the 2JZ fanboys lol. The B58 is making insane numbers with mods and, while it still hasn’t reached 1000 horses (which, let’s be honest, have no practical applications), there are already some B58 Supras around that reached the 900 mark.
The mclaren is good looking in my opinion and I’m gonna have to go against the top speed argument. I think mclaren could make a car that reaches 280+ but thats not their goal possibly. I think the goal is simply remake the f1 in a modern form, not reinvent the speed industry like it did in 1992
The 488 ( gtb) is a fantastic car - but the f 8 as well ! The 488 is now 5 years old - so why not refresh the look and make it look better? After that period it is just normal to do so - if u are into cars, you will know that that is quite charekteristic for Ferrari... In my opinion the f8 is the logical next step. A car that looks more sporty and agressive, but quite elegant as well. It s gorgous .
What I am saying is that the sf90 stradale looks more like the 458/488/f8 type. It doesnt look like the proper full-fledged supercar laferrrai ever did. Despite having 1000 hp
>thinking of making a toxic comment< >remembering this is just a RUclips video on a person’s opinion< >deletes comment< >write something nice instead< Your voice sounds good!
I owned a mk4 GLI which was the sedan counterpart of the GTI. The model I got had the rarer 2.8l VR6 engine which pumped out around 200 HP and around the same lb/ft of torque. It had wheel hop and some issues with understeer when pushed but I thought it was a good car.
Because it had potential to go over 1000hp. Japanese car makers had a gentleman's agreement in the 90s, that no car will be over 300hp. So if you can't sell the power, you sell potential for it. All those top cars were over engineered to easily squeeze much more power and that was their main selling point.
@@TopCarsTV same with the current Supra. It's full of details where the manufacturers held back the engineering to keep the price low while putting it easy for tuners to do their thing and dial it up beyond 1000hp, add wings, open fake vents which have actual air channels, etc
@@TopCarsTV who told you that mk4 supra doesn't have a potential to go over 1000hp? Did you really think that people could juice out a 1000 or even a 800 hp after the car just came out? 2jz's started to push over 1000 hp after YEARS of experience about the engine. Same with mk5. And it already reaches 800 hp marks easily, imagine the future.
To me it just looks too much like a futuristic GT86. High ride height, short length, small trunk small spoiler etc. The FT-1 was a little too futuristic but it looked pretty long. The rear was long but still shorter than the front like the MK4. It's a bit like after the E92 M3 the next M3 was the 1M coupe. The 1M is still a coupe bit it doesnt have that look that the M3 does. The MK4 supra did have a high ride height but it masked it with its front lip. The new supra doesnt do that so the front ends up looking high. It also has really small and even fake grilles. If they were bigger and still fake it would at least look beter and more aggressive. But it doesn't so it looks tamed
@@RyanRaiyyan look at the 2000gt and look at the mk5 back to back. It's sorta short for a reason plus the fact that nearly every car on the roads a long and monstrous boat so what's wrong with it being short? The ft1 was more or less not a concept for the supra anyway and was more in the lines the chassis that had later on form today's Lexus LC.
You are camparing heavily modified supras to a stock supra against a Porsche... I'm not saying the new supra isn't slightly disappointing but at least do a fair comparison
@@TopCarsTV 320 hp of the murican MK4 GTE vs 316 hp of the 348 GTB, with the 348 being 70kg (161 lbs) lighter, and thus having better power to weight ratio, way lower mass point while the supra is longer, thinner and higher, while also having way worse suspension. multiple things that negatively effect the performance on circuits
@@arthurvandersterren4145 the fact that we are comparing mk4 Supra with Ferrari of the time, and we are not doing the same today supports my argument 😉
I think 1) f8 tributo is one of the most beautiful ferraris ever made 2) supra is perfect in looks the only thing wrong is tail lights they don't look anything closely related to the word "supra" 3) I am a die hard Bangle fan But that 7 series is ugliest BMW ever 4) Speed tail interior is awsome
@@KL-eb7cu yeah but Im not saying id buy a mk4 supra, if I wanted a 2jz, I'd buy the engine itself, not the car that is famous for having it(famous but not the only car to have a 2jz stock).
@@steverambo7599 although, if you want a """cheap""" supra, you can buy the toyota soarer (lexus gs300), the trouble is that is automatic, but its the almost perfect drift car, and is really comfortable
McLaren SpeedTail isn’t ugly it’s trying to be aerodynamicly beautiful but it isn’t a let down at all in my mind And FINALLY *THE JAG XJ220 IS A GREAT SUPERCAR WITH AN OUTDATED ENGINE THAT THEY MADE BETTER*
The Engine wasn't outdated, it was actually the engine from the MG Metro 6R4 Gr.B rally car, in N/A form it made over 400 HP. It was later sent to TWR (Tom Walkinshaw Racing) for the installation of the turbochargers
the jza80 wasnt the only supra ever. the a70 and prev gens did not have a big wing or whatever. and also did the mk4 supra embarass ferrari’s stock? no. they were tuned and upgraded. the b58 in the new supra is the next 2jz. shorter wheelbase means better handling. idk seems like you only like the mk4 supra. nissan gtrs and nsxs are well over $100,000. toyota just did not want to have the same thing happen to their supra. its a really good car with tonnes of upgrades and customization. the mk4 was overrated anyway
You lost me when you called LFA a Supra, LFA is an engineering genius greatness and proper high end car. Supra is a tuner car, those are different classes of cars.
I personally think I8 looks bad. The front is pretty good but the back looks like a really ugly frog or something like that. And power output really isn't great especially. Engine sound lacks soul too.
When you said, "If I would have designed the F8 Tributo it would have looked a lot cleaner and more elegant" I was like, here we go, another guy who thinks he can do better But when you showed the render, I was like No, No he's got a point
"Volkswagen invented the hot hatchback" That is so false. There were several hot hatches before the Golf: Mini Cooper S, BMW 2002ti touring, Abarth, Simca etc.
Okay im normally not the guy who complains about someones opinion, but you really lost my respect on what you said about the mk4, wich remains an awesome car even today
Even though millionaires who put them on order were disappointed, I absolutely love the Jaguar XJ220! It was the fastest car in the world(for about 5 mins) with a V6! And the styling is super car perfection! !! I do however agree with everything else on the list.
@@sehhmie5483 yeah! I mean, r34 dosent have 1000hp stock Also, i think the MK5 supra is way cooler than the MK4 supra because at least is a BMW with Free Bluetooth connection ;) Note: dont call me am hypocrite, im just tired of being screamed that "tHe Mk5 sUpRa Is A bMw" IK its a bmw, just *SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUP!*
@@mateorios1636 agreed. Everyone knows of the mk5's BMW heritage. But the constant use of the BMW joke is old af & unoriginal. I mean, who are these people trying to educate when everyone has internet at the tip of their fingers nowadays?
About the Supra, I'm going to leave these here: www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/toyota-supra-a90.235133/page-41 www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/toyota-supra-a90.235133/page-52 On the issues of length and width, someone took a good effort to compare other cars, not just the old Supra: www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-supra-size-dimensions-comparison-thread.1634/ EDIT: And no, the LF-A is not a Supra successor... far from it. It pays homage to Toyota's 2000GT in terms of the Japanese engineering.
@@ryanmcclellan7347 So the Dodge Challenger, Dodge Charger, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Jaguar, etc are "bmw z4s" cause they have the same ZF8 Speed Transmission from that is used in the Supra MK5 and BMW Z4 (G29 Generation)? Also, the B58 in the Supra MK5 A90-J29 is its own exclusive B58 inline 6.
You really expected the new Supra to be a 1500HP Ferrari killer out of the box, didn´t you? Taste is something individual, but like the Tacan the MK5 looks damn good! Have you ever seen an MK4 and MK5 next to each other? I like the MK4, no question about it, but I´d take an MK5 over it any time.
Ngl i think yoyr wrong abt the supra. And the mk4 looks nothing like the mk3, smaller is better these days with all the massive gt cars, it kinda sucks that its nit a jdm engine tho
Ur not alone what he said about the f8 and especially the supra hurt. I am a supra fanboy for life no matter what and it hurt to listen and how he said the f8 was ugly hurt too same with the speedtail and xj220
Mk5 Supra is a BMW. Not a real Japanese car, imagine being black or white and naming your child a “Japanese name” does that make them Japanese? No it doesn’t. Does wearing Japanese cultural style clothes make you Japanese? No. Hell the Dodge Steath built in Nagoya,Japan based on the 3000gt is more JDM than the MK5 BMW Supra that is build in Germany. I remember when people protested the Stealth being a pace car at the Indianapolis 500, because it was a Japanese build car with a “American company name on it” “Dodge”.
It’s some strange contraption, I think it’s called a turn signal. But it’s a shame that happen to forget that orange light whenever I sit behind a BMW.
You are insane. I am 6 months in to my Supra , and you need to pay attention to what is going on with the B58.. 1000 HP with stock head gasket , bearings and cam... I only have the flash tune so far, and the car is fast. I will give you, i am ordering the retro hoop , and having it body matched over carbon , cause it just looks so much better with one.
@DamDanielPlays nah thats you, youre just lonely so u say the same joke everyone else says in hopes to catch their attention, since you werent given any. now stop being so cringy, the car community does not need any more people like you
I am surprised that the Mach-E isn't on there. What true Mustang fan is going to be okay with the "Mustang" badge when it's just a crossover SUV only meant to attract middle aged soccer moms who drive 55 in the fast lane.
The Chrysler Crossfire should've been on this list. The concept was the badass V8 sports car but the production model was a slow v6 with just 205 horsepower.
The Simca 1100Ti should have the strongest claim to the title of the first ‘Hot Hatch’, all with 84hp, in 1974. It was followed by the Golf GTi in 1975.
Although the supra isn’t my style, the engine is anything but soft. Its 382 “German” horsepower which is always underrated, is extremely tuner friendly, and maybe a bit heavier than it should be. Which sounds a lot like the Supra’s of old. people should get over the German part.
Why is basing the Toyota Supra on a BMW Z4 a bad thing? Japanese makes have teamed up with European makes in the past, like Nissan and Alfa Romeo, or Honda and Triumph Plus, the Z4 is my favourite car, and any BMW Straight-6 is the my favourite sounding engine
The thing with the Supra is that it wasn't the best idea to team up with BMW on such an important car. Imagine that the next Porsche 911 was based off of a Mercedes SLK. In many ways, they both have a legacy, and the intent should be go keep it. A good example of this is the Skyline/GT-R: the taillights, the performance (both road and race cars), the tuning potential... The same applies to the MK4 Supra, it had a very good Super GT/JGTC record, it had an iconic rear wing, the 2JZ-GTE is also a legacy by itself, and the tuning potential, making it sometimes a "Supercar killer" without very extensive modifications. Toyota's partnership with BMW should have been better. Making a new iteration of the iconic engine with about 550hp, bring back the big rear wing, and make it look a little more like the MK4, possibly by not adding so many lines to the car, making it a bit smoother. And base it off of the M3 platform and not the Z4.
Simple, people don't understand that car makers are a "business" at the end of the day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so the boring boardroom financial decisions are never brought into the conversation among Car Enthusiasts.
@@samuelhere41 probably because it's not a 600 hp supercar. The Supra's story is very sad, all thanks to everyone's expectations that Toyota (and bmw) didn't aim for
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"Disappointing" cars doesn't mean they're necessarily bad cars, they just didn't live up to the expectations.
The 2020 Supra isn't a bad car. But by using the name Supra it should stay in the same league with the GTR and NSX like before.
Exactly ☝️
Too bad the market will not looking for 500+ hp toyota now, look how had the nsx sales are if toyota want to compete with it
the Supra was a grand tourer, not a full-on sports car
The mk 4 supra only stayed with the GTR and NSX after heavy mods whilst the latter 2 were basically stock.... go figure.
idk man I think the supra did something I've heard of. something called..um
e v o l u t i o n
At least the Supra returned did not become an SUV
It became a bmw
It's still ugly. Face it, the OG Supra looks much better.
@@tvoovm7254 yep
this reminds me of the eclipse
Is not that bad but kan be better
“Supra went from embarrassing Ferrari’s”, yes in highly modified form. The 1994 tt Supra costs $44,000 ($76,000 in 2020), it was sluggish in stock form compared to rivals in its price range. If it wasn’t for bmw the mk5 Supra would have never happened because of the the cost to develop a new chassis and “3jz” engine. The engine in the mk5 Supra has proved easily tunable and mod friendly, the engine can make up to 700hp without having to upgrade the internals. In no way is the new Supra a total disappointment, the old mk4 just has a cult following of 12yr fanboys that think they come factory with a 1000hp.
Huh personally Im a 12 year old yes but i dont give a fuck about the mk4. I mostly like Italian cars.
Thank you! Stop the hate on the Mk5 Supra
They do come from the factory with 1000hp if the factory has a name called Top Secret then yes 1000hp for you my man
ruclips.net/video/pLkdafRP1EQ/видео.html
Finally sombody said it right.
I just cannot and could not fathom how anybody thought the standard mk4 supra was a great car. It was average at best.
The mk5 is a great car in standard form.
And yes you are right about them 12 year old boys.... those guys probably still have semi nude poster girls stuck on their bedroom walls.
As you dad would say...."grow up son"
Yeah , who else thought it would be a 3JZ LOL
They took the b58 and called it a 3jz
Should've been a 10jz
It could be everything bmw, but if the engine was a Toyota one, would be awesome
As if the 2jz ain't hyped enough
@@tarcioanold not at all
Even though I disagree with a lot of stuff here, these videos are kinda fun!
Yeah
Ikr, I watch his videos for his controversial opinions
I DEF AGREE WITH THE SUPRA IT LOOKS AWESOME yes but it isn’t really the old model at all it’s slower smaller and dosent have the wing it’s cool yes but idk I just don’t think it’s up to par with the old one the old one was super cool but still the 2020 GR Supra is cool just not as cool as the old one
@j 1 I disagree with part about e65, it wasn’t nice for a lot of people but it isn’t photogenic car, looks much better in reality, iDrive isn’t so complicated as it is said and when you look at comparison to other cars at that time it was way ahead as they tried to do something different, I would rather put e-class or s-class of that time at this list before e65, but it is all matter of taste here
F for respect
Dude the stock Supra never emberrassed Ferraris, lets be real here. In their nostalgia a lot of people are comparing built and tuned MK4's to the stock MK5.
1993 Supra had more power and was faster to 60 than a 1993 Ferrari 348
@@TopCarsTV from what I can find it still was quicker in the quarter mile
@@cy9nvs I found that the Supra was faster 🤷♂️
@TopCars TV Well, first off, an 830hp Ferrari is considered the baby Ferrari. Stock supras (MK4 and MK5) ain’t reaching that. The 90s were a different time. The MK5 is still relatively fast, but fanboys are shaming it because it uses bmw parts. The MK4 sourced parts from Yamaha, so that isn’t fully in house either.
Supra is faster
Oh here is one no one ever thought of. Hummer h2
hummer h2 made me vomit
I'd rather have a mini cooper,
There were a saying that, H1 goes to war, H2 & H3 goes to mall..
H2 is H poo
@@sootmassi yyg
"where's the length? Where's the girth?"
That's what she said.
ouch
Ouch
Ah self burn thouse are rare
It's gone because weight reduction bro
IT IS HE, NOT SHE.
New Supra used to be a nice and cool car.
Until this morning, Nissan 400z came out.
Did you see the 400z unveil already?
BRUH the 400Z is a prototype/concept car, not a production car yet
Many auto manufacturers made several concept cars with multiple phases (yes including the GT86 with 3 phases and LFA which had almost a decade of making it into a production car after several phases since 2001)
This looks like a job for the Z Proto.
Yea
I think the porsche taycan was a great job by porsche. It looked almost exactly like the concept version
The F8 Tributo looks fine to me honestly.
Yeah agree it does look that bad but the rear tail lights are the only problem to me
yea
@@61936 the rear is butt ugly, the 488 f50 rear is a lot better
Same
My favorite ferrari is the 488 pista
I think people in the comment section should check what disappointing means, let’s take a example from the video like the Gr Supra, yea it’s a awesome car and it’s very fun to drive but it was not what we wanted
Exactly!
@@TopCarsTV wait you replied
I have decided that this channel is one of two things, a channel by someone who doesn't like, and doesn't know anything about cars, or a person who also doesn't give a shit about cars but is knowledgeable enough to produce automotive click bait.
Toyota Supra isn’t bad. It was just wasn’t what was expected.
Exactly
it is much better
@@jdm324xd You’re so dumb I think the old supra had way more horsepower and a bigger spoiler
@@Hi-Capa_Gold_Watch The new supra has ~380hp and the old one has ~320hp lol what are you on about, also wing doesnt even matter, considering the A80 is a GT not a track oriented car, but a top speed straight road oriented car.
@@jdm324xd blame the fanbois. They expected a Dodge Demon for 20k, it's their fault that they are disappointed.
The Lead designer for BMW need to get fire. Period.
They do it because the Chinese market like it the designer is told to do a big grille
When he showed the bmw I literally laughed out loud
I just don’t get why everyone hates the new supra? The supras have always been different between generations so why do people expect it to be the same as the old one?
I've never agreed with a Supra GR comment, but this is agreeable.
Yes its correct, just because it has many things from bmw doesnt make it bad
I think most people don’t like how the Supra was made after the Z4. People wanted Toyota to make their own Supra. It doesn’t have to be the same thing as the old Supra but it doesn’t have to be a BMW.
I agree with d.j.b masked man
The new Supra is better than the old one by by quite a margin
Mitsubishi called it the Mirage because it looks like a real car!
I actually own a Mitsubishi Mirage
A 2015 model
@@karlsmith2570 im so sorry
How are you verified?
@@paccin339 well, at the time when I got it, my need for a car outweighed a lot other things
Especially the color of what my car is which is White and I'm not a fan of vehicles that they main exterior body color is White for a number of reasons
@@karlsmith2570 yeah yeah the mirage isnt that kind of car you buy for passion
The Taycan looks awesome
real quick for the record, though dissapointing on many levels, the xj220 was an insanely cool car
i wish they could at least keep the active aero. That would be so cool
Outro part:
Maserati Biturbo: due to it's boring sedan like styling and lousy build quality.
Jaguar XJ220: because absence of four wheel drive and the V12 engine from the concept, and came in the twin turbocharged V6 engine and rear wheel drive only...
Cadillac XLR: I'm not entirely sure about it's reason why it failed but it might be it's outrageous price tag and lackluster presence of quality and performance.
XLR was basically a Mercedes SL competitor but was worse in almost every aspect
You are right. The. Maserati Biturbo was a competitor to the BMW M3 E30 but it was worse in every metric.
The Jaguar XJ220 was an cool car but it had an V6 and rwd drivetrain instead of the promised V12 and awd drivetrain.
The Cadillac XLR and XLR-V were based of the 2004 Chevrolet Corvette C6 but unlike the Chevy, both the XLR and XLR-V lacked performance quality and they were overpriced.
@@gradinarudavid9333 Yup, they were great but near misses...
The Cadillac XLR was disappointing because it was an overpriced Corvette C6
0:11 Since fucking WHEN is the Taycan ugly... How the hell dare you to say that!?
Since it we saw what the concept looked like.
@@TopCarsTV the taycan is still a beautiful car...
@@TopCarsTV the concept legit looks the same
@@TopCarsTV They literally changed to a 4-Door. Who cares? It still looks dope
McLaren Speedtail is awesome, how dare you!
It is not a bad car it just doesn't live up the F1
The Supra too
@@זהסודי-ה7מ yeah I like the 2020 version better than the original
@@samuelhere41 of course it's better than the original, but do you think that it was better than the MK4?
@@זהסודי-ה7מ no
I understand that mk5 supra is disappointing, because there's a little amount of toyota in this car. But it's still great as a car, handles well, tunes well, looks well too(in my opinion). The new supra is just different. Moreover, the stock mk4 supra is underpowered gt car, whereas the mk5 supra is more of a precise machine to cut corners. And the last thing, did you seriously call Lexus LFA the new supra? LFA is the high-revving supercar, the piece of art, whereas the mk4 supra is just a nice sportcar.
4:37 lol,that's my uncle's car
No it's not.
I’m so not suprised
6:42 I totally agree. The older BMW's were very pretty. The crap they sell today is unbelievable ugly compared to the 80ies and 90ies.
Sorry, that's my opinion.
I respect
Btw the old ones are good looking the new ones too but bmw lost it charm thats the big problem
@@fiestahimself9135 I don't think that the new ones are good looking. 😉👍
@@handofmud144 yeah those fucking big grilles they make no sense ikr?
@@Riccksu No sense. 😁👍
@@handofmud144 yeah, even if Im more into Italian cars than german cars, i really gotta Say that i have a mad respect for older bmws, but the new ones literally lost thier phylosophy after 2010. BMW now its more chinise than german.
The Supra is defenetly *not* a let down. It may have some BMW parts but the truth is, Toyota did most of the tuning, the body, exhaust, chassis and a whole lot more. The B58 is exactly what a modern 2jz (3jz) would be. Just a simple 3L i6 turbo. It performs very well around tracks and functions great as a daily driver. Just because the GTR and NSX evolved into _Supercars_ doesn't mean that the A90 doesn't have any Supra essence. It truly lives up to the Supra name wich stands for a fun, tuner friendly sportscar wich has plenty of power but will offer a lot more, *if you desire* . It sounds amazing and looks great aswell. Just because the internet tells you to hate it doesn't mean you have to. It has all the Supra spirit it needs to be a true Supra and that's all that matters. If you don't like it because you just aren't into that kind of vehicle or are not a fan of it at all that's OK but if you're against it because the internet hates on it cause of the BMW components than that's just unfair. The Huracan also has a different manufacturer engine but is still considered a lamborghini.
Thanks for coming to my presentation
supra fans should be thankful. the supra could turn into a suv like the eclipse.
Same with the McLaren F1. It’s kinda confusing when people hate on the Supra for having like 5 stock BMW parts on it but then a car with an entire BMW engine is seen as a legend
@@ToyotaGRYaris22 well. The Supra does have a full BMW engine. They could have build a 3JZ but that posed a to big of a risk. If the Supra wouldn't sell with a Toyota build engine the company is at risk. So they rather went safe over making the internet happy. But the F1 is a legend and the most timeless and beautiful car ever
@@SomeoneLikeEveryoneElse yes. That's my point. At least it's a sportscar still
@@idknils2920 I agree with your opinion on the F1. I’m not a massive fan of the F1, but I respect it. The thing I was trying to say was the fact that if a car has a different brand engine that shouldn’t mean that it’s 100 percent the brand that made the engine.
A 2009 Citroen C4 Loeb is a pretty huge fail. It was supposed to be a model to celebrate Sebastian Loeb and how he managed to keep a 100% win rate on tarmac tracks in WRC with a C4 WRC. So what did they give us? A road legal WRC, 300 hp 2 litre engine and AWD? No. A turbo 1.6 litre which made less power than a naturally aspirated 2 litre VTS and it was still FWD. Fuck Citroen for never making any actual sporty roadcars
I like scrolling through the comments in these videos mainly because i find it funny that people are fighting about opinions
I like the Speedtail ngl
1:03 props for using a picture of Ray Magliozzi! 🥳
I inherited my dad's '16 Mitsubishi Mirage. It was the worst car I've ever driven. It's tiny tires looked like they belonged on wheelbarrows. Braking and handling were subpar even for a cheap car. The three cylinder engine was truly pathetic. Plus it was built in Thailand, which saved Japan from a lot of embarrassment. On the plus side, it got almost 40mpg and could hold a surprising amount of cargo...as long as it didn't need to get somewhere fast.
To me the Ferarri F8 Tributo is the most beautiful Ferarri ever made...
b r u h ... what about the f50 and f40 mate ?
Lol no
I guess u don't know LaFerrari, 288 GTO, Testarossa, 512 TR, 348 TS, F40, 458 and F12
maZZoni I do kiddo...
Not ever made but in the 458 line it definitely has the prettiest face, I do prefer the 488 rear tho.
The MK5 Supra ain’t that disappointing, the first 3 gens were kinda boring. The MK4 was like Messi and CR7, it got us used to exceptional and we got way too high hopes for anyone who dared replace them.
Plus, apparently, Toyota could be working with the Supra to put a 2JZ under the hood
Tf you mean, the MKIII is pretty cool
The 2.0 is literally made to be 2jz swapped (according to Akio Toyoda), and they ate working on a 6 speed manual option
I don't mind that the new Supra is smaller than the old one at all; performance-wise it is quite capable and sits well with its predecessors. I'll even overlook the silly fake vents. What I feel lets it down is the soft, comfort-oriented GT setup it inherits from the Z4. Make it firm. Give it responsive steering with lots of feedback. A manual gearbox would be nice too.
My guy
The Mustang Mach E is number 1 most disappointing creation in existence currently, but may lose the most disappointing podium to the new Dodge EV SRT and it’s super cheesy engine sound simulator. The new supra just looks like a Miata, old Supra was such a sexy car!
The new Defender is definitely a letdown. First of all it doesn't remotely look like the old Defender. Second, it isn't what a Defender is supposed to be. A Defender is supposed to be a barebones cheap rugged off-roader that farmers can afford to carry shit. The new one is just another luxury 4X4 like the Evoque. They turned the most rugged and tough car Britain produced into a soccer mom mobile
The new Defender its fantastic, seen one on the streets at a rainny night and its just a perfect improve for the classic gen.
@@9gsJota Yeah I take back what I said over a year ago. It's An amazing car especially the V8 and I love it
Hey don't disrespect the taycan!,It looks so beautiful man...
The only people the new Supra disappointed is the 2JZ fanboys lol. The B58 is making insane numbers with mods and, while it still hasn’t reached 1000 horses (which, let’s be honest, have no practical applications), there are already some B58 Supras around that reached the 900 mark.
He is talking about tuned supras in drag strips and comparing it to a stock gr supra like wtf
The mclaren is good looking in my opinion and I’m gonna have to go against the top speed argument. I think mclaren could make a car that reaches 280+ but thats not their goal possibly. I think the goal is simply remake the f1 in a modern form, not reinvent the speed industry like it did in 1992
The 488 ( gtb) is a fantastic car - but the f 8 as well ! The 488 is now 5 years old - so why not refresh the look and make it look better? After that period it is just normal to do so - if u are into cars, you will know that that is quite charekteristic for Ferrari...
In my opinion the f8 is the logical next step. A car that looks more sporty and agressive, but quite elegant as well. It s gorgous .
Totally agree
Now they put out the sf90 stradale.But then again it has 1000 hp
@@shubaelvaz4768 your talking about It like if they werent that much.
What I am saying is that the sf90 stradale looks more like the 458/488/f8 type. It doesnt look like the proper full-fledged supercar laferrrai ever did. Despite having 1000 hp
@@shubaelvaz4768 i think they Just want an Evolution of the current style, It isnt a bad idea, and honestly It looks gorgeous
>thinking of making a toxic comment<
>remembering this is just a RUclips video on a person’s opinion<
>deletes comment<
>write something nice instead<
Your voice sounds good!
I owned a mk4 GLI which was the sedan counterpart of the GTI. The model I got had the rarer 2.8l VR6 engine which pumped out around 200 HP and around the same lb/ft of torque. It had wheel hop and some issues with understeer when pushed but I thought it was a good car.
"Hotrods - You don´t drive them, You operate them." - What a genius quote!!!
a stock mk4 supra is not even a rival for a cayman! Why do people think the supra mk4 stock is like 1000hp, it has 200 to like 320 hp!
Because it had potential to go over 1000hp.
Japanese car makers had a gentleman's agreement in the 90s, that no car will be over 300hp. So if you can't sell the power, you sell potential for it.
All those top cars were over engineered to easily squeeze much more power and that was their main selling point.
@@TopCarsTV same with the current Supra. It's full of details where the manufacturers held back the engineering to keep the price low while putting it easy for tuners to do their thing and dial it up beyond 1000hp, add wings, open fake vents which have actual air channels, etc
@@ernodios wow you sure can read the brochure
@@TopCarsTV who told you that mk4 supra doesn't have a potential to go over 1000hp? Did you really think that people could juice out a 1000 or even a 800 hp after the car just came out? 2jz's started to push over 1000 hp after YEARS of experience about the engine. Same with mk5. And it already reaches 800 hp marks easily, imagine the future.
The Cayman has 275 hp...
The new supra isn't meant to be a mk4 supra. It's it's own car. The mk4 isn't like the mk3. What's so wrong with the looks of the new one?
Basically a z4 nevermind mk4😂
To me it just looks too much like a futuristic GT86. High ride height, short length, small trunk small spoiler etc. The FT-1 was a little too futuristic but it looked pretty long. The rear was long but still shorter than the front like the MK4. It's a bit like after the E92 M3 the next M3 was the 1M coupe. The 1M is still a coupe bit it doesnt have that look that the M3 does. The MK4 supra did have a high ride height but it masked it with its front lip. The new supra doesnt do that so the front ends up looking high. It also has really small and even fake grilles. If they were bigger and still fake it would at least look beter and more aggressive. But it doesn't so it looks tamed
@@RyanRaiyyan look at the 2000gt and look at the mk5 back to back. It's sorta short for a reason plus the fact that nearly every car on the roads a long and monstrous boat so what's wrong with it being short? The ft1 was more or less not a concept for the supra anyway and was more in the lines the chassis that had later on form today's Lexus LC.
You are camparing heavily modified supras to a stock supra against a Porsche... I'm not saying the new supra isn't slightly disappointing but at least do a fair comparison
I didn't compare tuned Supra. 2JZ made more power than the Ferrari 348 at the time.
@@TopCarsTV 320 hp of the murican MK4 GTE vs 316 hp of the 348 GTB, with the 348 being 70kg (161 lbs) lighter, and thus having better power to weight ratio, way lower mass point while the supra is longer, thinner and higher, while also having way worse suspension. multiple things that negatively effect the performance on circuits
@@arthurvandersterren4145 the fact that we are comparing mk4 Supra with Ferrari of the time, and we are not doing the same today supports my argument 😉
@@TopCarsTV soz miscommunication
@@TopCarsTV so gou are saying you would rather have a mustang rebranded as a supra since that does does have competing horsies?
I think
1) f8 tributo is one of the most beautiful ferraris ever made
2) supra is perfect in looks the only thing wrong is tail lights they don't look anything closely related to the word "supra"
3) I am a die hard Bangle fan But that 7 series is ugliest BMW ever
4) Speed tail interior is awsome
Most beautiful Ferrari? You know I don't judge people opinions but the f8 is far away being the most beautiful
I respecc your opinion
@@Kia_Soulless I don't, like the whole Supra is wrong.
The Ferrari F8 shouldn't have been put on the list since it looks so Pretty
8:31 oof thats a bit mean
I love the new Supra, change my mind.
Its an honestly good car, although it is too expensive for what its worth
@@steverambo7599 still cheaper than a Mk4 supra tho.
@@KL-eb7cu yeah but Im not saying id buy a mk4 supra, if I wanted a 2jz, I'd buy the engine itself, not the car that is famous for having it(famous but not the only car to have a 2jz stock).
@@steverambo7599 although, if you want a """cheap""" supra, you can buy the toyota soarer (lexus gs300), the trouble is that is automatic, but its the almost perfect drift car, and is really comfortable
here are really cheap
2:12 that's what she said
bro the speed tail is a BEAUTY of a car dude and i dont get why you'd hate on it, but i understand that its ur opinion
McLaren SpeedTail isn’t ugly it’s trying to be aerodynamicly beautiful but it isn’t a let down at all in my mind
And FINALLY *THE JAG XJ220 IS A GREAT SUPERCAR WITH AN OUTDATED ENGINE THAT THEY MADE BETTER*
That roof is entirely made of glass and glass is difficult to curve in all directions to match the concept drawing.
The Engine wasn't outdated, it was actually the engine from the MG Metro 6R4 Gr.B rally car, in N/A form it made over 400 HP. It was later sent to TWR (Tom Walkinshaw Racing) for the installation of the turbochargers
Chill bro
I love how triggered everyone is by the speedtail lmfao
The supra looks great. Sure it is basically a BMW, but the styling looks amazing.
@Ricky maybe, but can you give some examples?
@Ricky I disagree. They do not look better, they look good, but supra looks miles better
really? the only reason why i dont like the new supra is the styling, but the rear end looks perfect as a modern supra
@Ricky how car can look better or not? Dude, clean your mind and start thinks already. Everybody has they owm opinion.
@Ricky bullshit, look at the A80 its a fat looking scrap. And if u disagree- u sock at car knowledge.
Just discovered this channel. I've binged all your videos. Absolutely brilliant (and hilarious)
So it's "great, not terrible", Comrade Dyatlov? 😃
@@TopCarsTV he gonna explode your channel
Can relate
always funny to see that the Supra MK4 (tuned) is compared with the MK5 (stock) but once you will know this is ridiculous
Yeah the video really is dissapointing...
The Porsche Taycan is not ugly, that is just wrong!!
I think it’s hideous just like any other electric car but everybody has a different opinion
i think he’s more or less comparing it to the concept, which just looked SO much better
why do people call the McLaren speedtail ugly? it has wicked specs and looks cool
easy, its called opinions
@@JPT_Jpt yep
People are
A- blind
Or B- classic case of opinions aging like milk that got left out
(I’m looking at you Jeremy Clarkson)
In my opinion, it looks like a modernized CERV III
'' As exciting as listening to Coldplay", Lol, beautiful line.
the jza80 wasnt the only supra ever. the a70 and prev gens did not have a big wing or whatever. and also did the mk4 supra embarass ferrari’s stock? no. they were tuned and upgraded. the b58 in the new supra is the next 2jz. shorter wheelbase means better handling. idk seems like you only like the mk4 supra. nissan gtrs and nsxs are well over $100,000. toyota just did not want to have the same thing happen to their supra. its a really good car with tonnes of upgrades and customization. the mk4 was overrated anyway
Like your opinion. U got my respect (not too important but idc). You seem to be one of the few with a working brain over here
the e65 always look like it's sad cause it's taco bell coupon just expired
Prowler should have had a Hemi with a 6-speed.
The hemi wasn't revived in 1998 yet and didn't last until the hemi was revived for the 2000s
*Magnum
You lost me when you called LFA a Supra, LFA is an engineering genius greatness and proper high end car. Supra is a tuner car, those are different classes of cars.
Supra was a supercar of its day. 93 Supra had more power and was faster than the Ferrari 348
@@TopCarsTV 2jz fucking rocket at its time
@@ВасилийПопов-м5ж 2jz is slow
@@TopCarsTVwell tbf the 348 was deemed the worst car Ferrari has ever made
The i8 was disappointing it looked like a spaceship but I had the power of a rumba
*Roomba, but I absolutely agree with you about that
I personally think I8 looks bad. The front is pretty good but the back looks like a really ugly frog or something like that. And power output really isn't great especially. Engine sound lacks soul too.
that thing look like a dualsense
I agree with you
The LFA was a proper Supra
It even sold like the MK4
@@זהסודי-ה7מ It did not
@@gt500gamer4 ?
@@זהסודי-ה7מ it*
@@זהסודי-ה7מ mk4 sold a lot
When you said, "If I would have designed the F8 Tributo it would have looked a lot cleaner and more elegant"
I was like, here we go, another guy who thinks he can do better
But when you showed the render, I was like
No, No he's got a point
The black roof top is sexy
TopCars TV: dissapoints the mk4 golf GTI
Donut Media: mod the f**k out of that 1.8T engine
"Volkswagen invented the hot hatchback"
That is so false.
There were several hot hatches before the Golf: Mini Cooper S, BMW 2002ti touring, Abarth, Simca etc.
2002tii = not a hatch.
Okay im normally not the guy who complains about someones opinion, but you really lost my respect on what you said about the mk4, wich remains an awesome car even today
i know man, and it actually got 180 hp all 2003 and up models with the legendary 1.8T engine. My favorite car ive owned.
Eh, he's not wrong. He's just too open of his opinion
Even though millionaires who put them on order were disappointed, I absolutely love the Jaguar XJ220! It was the fastest car in the world(for about 5 mins) with a V6! And the styling is super car perfection! !! I do however agree with everything else on the list.
V6 master race
Fun fact: Mitsubishi Mirage is called Mitsubishi Space Star in Europe 😁(my mom got 1 and the sound of the 3 cyl engine is not that bad!)
I think the Mirage is pretty successful here in Philippines
looks pretty slick too
Fact
A crappy little hatchback looks cool? Woah. I dunno, maybe it’s cool in the Philippines.
@@javathehut7285 It's not crappy tho, u just don't appreciate.
7:11 this bmw rulez bruh
f8 is awesome
The supra engine or otherwise known as the B58 is a brilliant motor easily reaching 700+ horsepower on stock internals
Oh my God
There is too much Instagram 13 year old bias on this Video
This video screams “ wheres 1000+ hp stock mk5 supra?!” When toyota dont promise anything
@@sehhmie5483 yeah! I mean, r34 dosent have 1000hp stock
Also, i think the MK5 supra is way cooler than the MK4 supra because at least is a BMW with Free Bluetooth connection ;)
Note: dont call me am hypocrite, im just tired of being screamed that "tHe Mk5 sUpRa Is A bMw"
IK its a bmw, just *SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUP!*
@@mateorios1636 agreed. Everyone knows of the mk5's BMW heritage. But the constant use of the BMW joke is old af & unoriginal. I mean, who are these people trying to educate when everyone has internet at the tip of their fingers nowadays?
The Ferrari f8 actually looks cool
I know right How dare they put this car on the list I think it looks better then the 488
About the Supra, I'm going to leave these here:
www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/toyota-supra-a90.235133/page-41
www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/toyota-supra-a90.235133/page-52
On the issues of length and width, someone took a good effort to compare other cars, not just the old Supra:
www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-supra-size-dimensions-comparison-thread.1634/
EDIT: And no, the LF-A is not a Supra successor... far from it. It pays homage to Toyota's 2000GT in terms of the Japanese engineering.
Same engine same transmission same frame. How is it not a z4???
@@ryanmcclellan7347 So the Dodge Challenger, Dodge Charger, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Jaguar, etc are "bmw z4s" cause they have the same ZF8 Speed Transmission from that is used in the Supra MK5 and BMW Z4 (G29 Generation)?
Also, the B58 in the Supra MK5 A90-J29 is its own exclusive B58 inline 6.
@@samsonCoby - and who made the transmission for the A80 again? Yep, Getrag.
You really expected the new Supra to be a 1500HP Ferrari killer out of the box, didn´t you? Taste is something individual, but like the Tacan the MK5 looks damn good! Have you ever seen an MK4 and MK5 next to each other? I like the MK4, no question about it, but I´d take an MK5 over it any time.
I expected it to have 500hp out of the box, like it's main rivals did
Ngl i think yoyr wrong abt the supra. And the mk4 looks nothing like the mk3, smaller is better these days with all the massive gt cars, it kinda sucks that its nit a jdm engine tho
Is it just me who sees the GR Supra and the F8 as beautiful?
Ur not alone what he said about the f8 and especially the supra hurt. I am a supra fanboy for life no matter what and it hurt to listen and how he said the f8 was ugly hurt too same with the speedtail and xj220
Mk5 Supra is a BMW. Not a real Japanese car, imagine being black or white and naming your child a “Japanese name” does that make them Japanese? No it doesn’t.
Does wearing Japanese cultural style clothes make you Japanese? No.
Hell the Dodge Steath built in Nagoya,Japan based on the 3000gt is more JDM than the MK5 BMW Supra that is build in Germany. I remember when people protested the Stealth being a pace car at the Indianapolis 500, because it was a Japanese build car with a “American company name on it” “Dodge”.
0:52, the black 80s Camaro parked in the grass beside that 'douche' is much more desirable than the Prowler indeed.
7:24 what is that orange light on the left headlight
It’s some strange contraption, I think it’s called a turn signal. But it’s a shame that happen to forget that orange light whenever I sit behind a BMW.
@@averyharris9949 huh those must be new
Some secret lazer eye lashes
i think its signalling aliens, the world is changing
You are insane. I am 6 months in to my Supra , and you need to pay attention to what is going on with the B58.. 1000 HP with stock head gasket , bearings and cam... I only have the flash tune so far, and the car is fast. I will give you, i am ordering the retro hoop , and having it body matched over carbon , cause it just looks so much better with one.
You have a Supra? So sick!
i respect you for treating that car nicely
I love the speedtail
You know Mitsubishi let us down with the Mirage when the RUclips app literally crashes as it comes on screen
I agree because of the mirage Mitsubishi is struggling now
1:45 it is a good car, but not a good supra
Better than the older supras thats for sure lol
@@steverambo7599 hell no
I love the new Supra and f8 also the speedtail
??? I said I like the Supra the f8 and the speedtail, also I think they are cool, you can hav your own opinion
@DamDanielPlays ok cringe boy
@DamDanielPlays nah thats you, youre just lonely so u say the same joke everyone else says in hopes to catch their attention, since you werent given any. now stop being so cringy, the car community does not need any more people like you
I am surprised that the Mach-E isn't on there. What true Mustang fan is going to be okay with the "Mustang" badge when it's just a crossover SUV only meant to attract middle aged soccer moms who drive 55 in the fast lane.
i agree it doesnt look like a proper mustang, my favorite mustang is the 2006 one, but this is just dissapointing
but when this video was released i dont think the mach-e existed yet
It wouldn't be there, cause no one expected "E" to be something good.
The Chrysler Crossfire should've been on this list. The concept was the badass V8 sports car but the production model was a slow v6 with just 205 horsepower.
Except that the concept used 2.7 V6 with supercharger, not the V8. You're either mistaking it with Firepower concept or Startech tuned Crossfire.
@@DiggoryEuthymius Yeah, I think you're right. That does sound familiar.
4:10 *James Pumphray has left the chat*
Lol he drove a Mk 3 Golf, not even a GTI neither
The Simca 1100Ti should have the strongest claim to the title of the first ‘Hot Hatch’, all with 84hp, in 1974. It was followed by the Golf GTi in 1975.
...and don't forget the Alfasud Ti -in that spirit ;-)
Although the supra isn’t my style, the engine is anything but soft. Its 382 “German” horsepower which is always underrated, is extremely tuner friendly, and maybe a bit heavier than it should be. Which sounds a lot like the Supra’s of old. people should get over the German part.
The MK5 is good, I just think it's not what everyone expected
Why is basing the Toyota Supra on a BMW Z4 a bad thing?
Japanese makes have teamed up with European makes in the past, like Nissan and Alfa Romeo, or Honda and Triumph
Plus, the Z4 is my favourite car, and any BMW Straight-6 is the my favourite sounding engine
The thing with the Supra is that it wasn't the best idea to team up with BMW on such an important car. Imagine that the next Porsche 911 was based off of a Mercedes SLK. In many ways, they both have a legacy, and the intent should be go keep it. A good example of this is the Skyline/GT-R: the taillights, the performance (both road and race cars), the tuning potential... The same applies to the MK4 Supra, it had a very good Super GT/JGTC record, it had an iconic rear wing, the 2JZ-GTE is also a legacy by itself, and the tuning potential, making it sometimes a "Supercar killer" without very extensive modifications. Toyota's partnership with BMW should have been better. Making a new iteration of the iconic engine with about 550hp, bring back the big rear wing, and make it look a little more like the MK4, possibly by not adding so many lines to the car, making it a bit smoother. And base it off of the M3 platform and not the Z4.
In Europa many Toyota motor is same parts from BMW.
@@ricardogomes6240 honestly I hated how the mk4 looked but I love the MK5 style
Simple, people don't understand that car makers are a "business" at the end of the day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so the boring boardroom financial decisions are never brought into the conversation among Car Enthusiasts.
We're not even 2 minutes in and we're circlejerking about how bad the new Supra is, when it's a damn good car.
Yeah I dont get why hate it
@@samuelhere41 probably because it's not a 600 hp supercar. The Supra's story is very sad, all thanks to everyone's expectations that Toyota (and bmw) didn't aim for
@@זהסודי-ה7מ hmm I can agree
The Prowler has to be Doug Demuro’s dream car with all of its “ quirks and features”. I weirdly love it tbh.
I also love it. Looks amazing!
TopCars TV someone need to swap a large NA v12 in it !
There is a youtube channel named straight pipe and there are two guys named jacob and yuri, and yuri is a fan of prowler and he own one now
@@Charlie-Charlot naaah, a V8 is what it needs. And open sides so you can see the engine
TopCars TV you’re right, with 180 degrees headers.
3:29- 3:30 I did not expect hearing that and I laughed so hard.