This Game is Finally Doing What No One Else Will... - Gray Zone Warfare
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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Gray Zone Warfare is an upcoming game that has a different approach to the extraction shooter genre by meshing together some of the best aspects of Survival games and Extraction shooters. We don't know how it will feel yet but some of the choices they are making will definitely make this a unique experience.
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UPDATE: They have announced a close playtest that I will be in starting April 18th and lasting for one week. There is no NDA so I will be covering this game a lot! Hopefully full early access release soon after!
Lookin forward to it!
Jesse you should check out Incursion Red River in the meantime.
What a fantastically well done video Jesse. I assume you don't have an editor yet and you did it all yourself. Really super well done video and script!!
How do we get in the beta?!@?!
Wow, yet another dev team that will ONLY let streamers/content crestors play their game and test. What a joke. If its good enough for them to test, then its good enough for the rest of us. All these devs will let streamers play and record gameplay that us normies just get to watch and this goes on for months and years. Absolutely ridiculous. There are PLENTT if people who are capable of testing games who are not streamers. They need to GIVE OTHERS ACCESS. Like..are these games being built for everyone to have fun? Or are they being made with the soul purpose of getting streamers to stream it and fuck the rest of us? Not cool
"You will live inside the game world permanently" idk man i'll need to ask my wife about this one
Dude, she's probably a noob at shooters. It's not like she can come in and kick your a##.
😂😂😂 honestly bro sounds creepy
If u die in the game u die in real life....
🤣 you gotta ask for permission……….my wife would gladly get rid of me 😱.
@@thesinaclwon seems like we share the same wife ^^
One thing that I like about Tarkov is that when you kill someone.. they're not coming right back for you or setting up an ambush down the road after coming back. The idea of 'permadeth' on the instance you're in make every kill that much more important / satisfying.
Yeah they got a good 10 minutes before they've got a kit and can get back into a game... Hideout simulator
@@I_D_W_I_W_D_W_I stop dying lol
When you get a good raid going you’re not seeing your hideout for another thirty minutes.
Agreed. I have the opposite feeling of what this video is stating; getting to come back to a fight is not a good thing. Makes it more traditional FPS-like than extraction shooter.
it's also entirely possible that greyzone will use less unique gear, ie you might buy a crate of 20 m4 rifles so losing one is no big deal. Thus the concept of going back for your stuff might not even be worth it most of the time. There's so many ways to skin that cat. Also you can go back via scavving, although it's far less common to get the same raid now that you can't pick one specific server.
honestly what you described literally sounds like they made rust in tarkov, all those players on a big map, being able to spawn at your base over and over to run into combat
It is realy different tho. There are 3 pmc factions, with each there own hub somewhere on or off the map. (not sure if it's a location you can reach through the large open map). From there you'll be able to infill the map and do a mission or hunt pmc's. But my understanding was that the pvp really isn't the focus, it's meant to have a variaty of though AI which supposed to be the real enemies. They compared it to the real world where different pmc factions rarely pick a fight with one another. Cause mostly they just operate in the same area with different missions, or the same mission where they accept the help from one another.
@JJ_Trooper thank you, I'm so fucking tired of the tarkov comparisons, I think it's important to talk about it. But I completely agree, they are WAYYYY different games. The foundation of extraction shooter is the only thing that's the same.
@@poptart4098they also seem similar because of the modern tactical setting. I hope Gray Zone has a better net code lol
Man Rust ??? How and where its even similar to compare? Rust is totally different game lol
@@marcodoesitbetter8675 I can see the comparison being drawn - if you are so inclined and can find a base where people re-spawn, you could camp it and continually take people out as they leave. That's about as far as that goes since you're not building your base or anything, but that concept of people being toxic in games for their own enjoyment - if it's possible to do in Grey Zone, there will be people doing it.
What are your thoughts on Gray Zone? Are you excited, or is this not something that interests you?
Its doing what everyone else does, getting overhyped before actual release footage. No one else has ever done that :))))))
I’m ready to see your opinion Jesse 😊
I'll hold my opinion till yall get your hands on it and can see it for what it is. I really hope it's good. We all love tarkov but it would be nice to have something similar when it's mid wipe.
Im interested to see where it will go, but IMO People definitly overhype the Game when they say "It will Kill Tarkov". Nothing short of BSG metaphorical deleting the Game will achieve that at this Point. And also a fact is that as you said, Gray Zone WILL be different than Tarkov and not cater to everyone who plays/likes Tarkov.
Can't wait for this game! Goodbye Tarkov for me
I feel like the biggest hurdle for this game will be the gunplay. It doesnt appear very satisfying. Nor does it seem like the movement will be fluid. As much as we hate tarkov combat, when there is absolutely zero things going wrong the game just FEELS smooth.
yeah idk feels like the game is overhyped and wont stay around for long. between gunplay and ai it just seems bland and too easy also the animations and pov just kinda look bad
@@jawahanifart8220the pov looks wayyyy better than tarkov, guns in tarkov take up half your screen it's disgusting. Movement in tarkov feels clunky bleh it's so gross. The devs said they are completely overhauling the guns and the gun sounds and it sounds just as good as tarkov now.
Considering YT compression and all, but from what I saw the weapon and movement animations look pretty good. They seem to be grounded and slower than what you might be used to even in Tarky. We will have to see in game in full resolution and sound. Hell Tarky looks like dog in a compressed YT vid.
This game is in very (pre-alpha) early access. Tarkov has been in "alpha/beta" for the past 8 years. There's literally 0 point of comparison. Let's talk about in another 8 years and see where this game is at that time.
Tarkov does not feel smooth. The movement is clunky af.
Me reads title: "This Game is Finally Doing What No One Else Will"
Also me after the first 10 seconds of the video: "What forcing me to upgrade my Graphics card?"
🤣🤣
I run the game on a RTX 4060 and you dont imagine the LAG and Aim drift I have,and it doesnt matter reducing resolution and graphics,theres almost no difference at all!Game crash´s,server disconnects making your last hour looting a total waste of time and patience,making you loose all your stuff!!!!!
I would like to add Hunt Showdown to the mix. No, it is not as deep as the other games mentioned but the way it handles the players moving around the map is really nice, feels really "natural" because it creates main points of interest in the map that eventually converge into a hot spot that keeps the match in motion and the best part is that there is still an option for the player to interact in the whole match or just win 1-2 fights and leave to hunt another day with better weapons or better skills that improve your gameplay.
Great video, great content as always.
I am so excited for GZW I've been following Riloe's coverage on it religiously. So ready to see the scale and beauty of the game! The other part about this game excites me so much is that Madfinger said that PVP isnt the focus, while you can do pvp its not what the game is based around. There will be no missions to try and kill each other which is something i am excited for too.
I really like the concept of PvP being a secondary focus and not at the forefront of the gameplay, because it just means like how Jesse compared it to DayZ, those rare encounters with PMC's will be crazy and exciting. The idea you could be on for hours just grinding away at missions stashing loot to suddenly encounter another full PMC squad intersecting your mission and have a wild firefight in the middle of the jungle or some huge village sounds awesome. Or, you can spot them, decide it's not worth the risk, and wait for them to leave the area before attempting your mission. You have choices, and there is more space for people to go so it's unlikely they'll stick around a long time. Tarkov forces everyone to the same points of interest every single raid because everyone has all the same missions just at different stages of the game, so it feels like you really don't have a choice on the PvP side of things if you want to progress, and you really don't considering all the PvP missions.
The toxicity seems to drop when devs do this. Too much competition turns people into animals🤣🤣
jesse, u nailed this video, i watched quite a few videos about grey zone, but none off them painted what the actual gameloop will feel like
Very detailed video! Super excited to check this game out!
One thing worth noting: Loot is on a dark souls system from what I've seen. Unless your body gets looted and your gear ends up on the ground or something, you can only have your most recent body on the ground to loot. This means you can't just meat grinder at the combat over and over, because you'll be losing gear. Especially solo, this can be a real challenge if you die in a particularly enemy-dense area.
great review bro loved how u summed everything up and hit all the nails on the head with the issue it was perfect for what they need to change and look at
8:24 great explanation, and something in the middle of those two games is exactly what I'm looking for.
Most excited too see a more involved enemy AI. From what I've read off there website and recent footage, there is finally going too be another game too rival that of what BSG has accomplished and it's going to be interesting too watch and experience both of these game-play styles as they further evolve. What's more thought provoking is the idea being able too return too a firefight you just died in and/or try too hunt an enemy player down who just took all of your gear and hard work. Am I excited? HELL YES BROTHER!
Excited for this new up and coming game. Glad to see you got into that closed test.
Totally agree, and one thing you haven't mentioned is the fact that a lot of us are sick of the PVP cheating, so a more PVE based games is just what we wanted. I have to say though "Realism" started with ARMA.
So excited for this. It's almost like its the game you and V been describing on the pogcast fir the last 3 yrs
there is a quality to jesse's content that i feel goes underappreciated. I know those who like him like him, but its just so classy man.
I'm ready to rat for 15 hours in the same spot on extract for the loot :)
Good luck on the size of the map lmao 😂😂😂😂 just go loot bro
@@keenanscruton3973 I'll see you at extract :D
There are no static extracts and most exit locations are going to be in open areas because they are helicopters
@@atlas2296 Ill be sniping :)
You'll be killed by me if you camp extract in my team 😊
you nailed the concepts! +1
The number of hype videos for this game is alarming. When more gameplay videos drop just take note of how many things are "place holders"
Good stuff, you're an excellent communicator
Thanks Jesse, thanks for giving such a detailed informativ video, about why EFT and GZW is not a like, and not just the standard;" If you think they are alike, you are wrong".
I was first dissapointed in knowing that there would be little to no PVP, but you give an interresting point of "hot zones" being able to "fix" that "issue", and that it is the player engaging in the choice, and not the game forcing you too (like EFT can in some ways).
You definatly gained yourself a new follower from me :-) Have a good day!
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I wasn't really interested in trying it, but now I am. Thanks.
The gameplay kind of reminds me of Ground Branch but with better textures. Definitely excited for it to release!
Very excited for this!
One of the best things about DayZ was the story you would tell. A 5 hour session could bring you to multiple cities, make you feel accomplished with your loot, fight zombies and just straight up survive. For that 5 hour experience you might never run into another player. If you do, you might not even have to try to kill them... I know I have talked to somebody for 30 minutes in DayZ just to shoot them in the back when they trusted me to get their back pack.
I hope Gray Zone will have VOIP... Because that will be just the cherry on top to having such a large scale map where running into another player could be hours apart.
I am so excited about this!
Really looking forward to see what the closed test has in store, the info we have now reminds me of the fun of PvE from a game like Ghost Recon Wildlands.
I'm dying haha! Love your videos, but this one might take the (carrot) cake. Excellent!
Very excited for this game
No matter how good or bad gray zone becomes we should always respect the og of the genre. Tarkov has its problems but it created and paved the way of this genre. Even triple A companies fail to replicate what tarkov is because it requires a unique playstyle
Bro, MadFinger really came back with a BOOM! 🔥🔥
can't wait for this game !!
DayZ already had that function where you had to load ammo into your magazines...
Great breakdown
I'm hopeful for this game to work out looks like something I would love as well
So just imagine it like this it’s kinda like if every tark raid when u die u always got back in on ur scav that feeling is always insane
So, Years ago "the division" had a mode called "Dark Zone" which was essentially an escape from tarkov style extraction mode. I think that is what sorta built the interest for this kind of mode.
One of my favorite gaming experiences of all time.
I don’t think so tbh, dark zone didn’t have like anything related to tarkov lol. Tarkov is more dayz combined with a battle rouale in the sense rhat people spawn in the map and its elemination with multiple teams. The only thing the division had the same was you could bring gear into the dark zone… but thats it lol
i was just thinking the same thing
@@mattgarey-hendricks1787 the dudes absolutely right and you clearly just wanna be that’s exactly what the dark zone was you go in get great loot and make it out while fighting for your life, I don’t think you realize but the division one came out before Tarkov was even in beta so you should probably do some research
Tarkov is what I expected the division to be. The bulletsponge AI and players made it so boring to me.
I hope you can see members of your faction on the map and they can radio you for help. It'd be dope for someone to tell you they got 3 dudes pinned down, approach from the north and you can get line of sight
Great video jesse
Out of all extraction shooters after tarkov. Hunt showdown was the only other one that really really stood on its own legs and gave u those heart thumping fights.
I'm pretty hyped for Grey Zone. Karma and Operator Drewski had some great vids on it.
Bought Tarkov a month ago and I haven't left the menu yet. I look at the controls, inventory, etc. and I get so overwhelmed. I really intend to finally play today.
Try spt-aki, can be a training ground for beginners
What @ElectronicRequiem said. The Singleplayer Tarkov/SPT mod is a fantastic way to learn the game, and preferable for a lot of people. Mods for Singleplayer Tarkov can also help you find out where to extract, what kind of ammo is better, etcetera. Without having to look up maps, charts and all that sort of boring shit. Highly recommended.
Or you can do the practice mode on the game no mod needed
Like what every one else has said use the SPT mod its extremly well worth it for learning the maps and the game mechanics and everything else + ignoring the bots faults its very good.
I am a hardcore Tarkov fan. I have been following this game but I still had been unsure of if I would enjoy it. But this video finally gave me that itch to try it. I just don’t have much time for gaming so my game time is pretty much dedicated to Tarkov.
Good find this looks sweet
0:49 the division created the extraction shooter genre. The darkzone is literally an extraction game mode
First extraction shooter was The Division (Dark Zone) Tarkov just completed the idea.
DayZ started all of this and every game to follow would be an evolution to it imo😊
YES Excited for something new. Hopefully they are planning ahead to deal with the Cheat, Anti-Cheat scenario. Cheats just take the joy out of anything for many players.
gray zone will take extraction shooters to a different level and play style and it will evolve throught time, is not competion, is another game folks. great vid jesse.
Hunt showdown was my other extraction shooter that I played alongside Tarkov. When they added solo self rez I dropped it, the loss is the main thing in these games that keeps me coming.
Nice video Jesse
This looks like it is right up my alley. Will probably need to upgrade my GPU at some point though.
The gunplay reminds me of ground branch....looks really fun
Hunt Showdown, while not an entirely Extraction shooter, also has a great spin on the general premise. Excited to try Gray Zone though
Seems like a tarkov with gulag situation, i like the quick in and out of tarkov to fight the people who play for pvp and leave
Nice fresh review on game mode and playstyle! Could Grey Zone be the next Ghost Recon Original 2.0 (PvE + PvP mission style extraction shooter)?
I am super excited for this game and have high hopes would love to run some raids with you in it sometime Jesse. :D
One thing I would be interested to find out is, if when not on the game would you still run the risk of losing gear and equipment? It sounds like the fobs and bases can be attacked, gained and lost (unless I misinterpreted that), if that's the case I don't think I like the idea of me losing all my stuff when I am asleep. at work or just not able to play in general.
Rick Lasagne. Change my mind.
The constant threat of pvp is exactly like in the cycle. I'm gonna love it!
idk i feel like its gonna fall under the same curse of the cycle and end up dying
@@jawahanifart8220 Well if they have good anticheat from the beginning they should be fine
Tarkov took 8 years or something to reach where it is now. GZW hasnt even been released yet.
Unfair comparison by all means
Yeah, but it took 8 years to Tarkov cause the devs suck and the engine that they used for a game like Tarkov sucks
this game right now is just a demo. Tarkov has way more features, not to mention that bsg was a literally inventing new genre.
Tarkov walked so GZW could run. Get real.
@@fvhrenheit4813 that is factually incorrect
I'm pretty excited about the game! It seems to be more casual-friendly than Tarkov, which is what I'm looking for!
I can’t wait!
Worth mentioning that all the things you say dayz doesn’t have, they have on modded servers. That aside I’ve been looking forward to this game for a while, hopefully it delivers
So ready for early access
Can’t wait for this
Seeing 'The Cycle' Gameplay hit me in the feels, what a game 😥
Finally somebody is making a game mode like arma wasteland. Deadside plays like arma wasteland too. Pretty fun to play with friends.
You do have to mention Deadside though. Its not extraction but looting a base or event whilst fighting players going for the same event and then have to take the loot back to the safe zone or you own base is pretty much DayZ but with real AI and players. Was basically seen as a mix between DayZ and Tarkov at the time of launch. The flow state was permanent. After you entered you never see the menu again
I'm so excited
Gray Zone is starting to sound like exactly what I've been wanting. I really enjoyed the Cycle, the persistent maps and lack of match timers did a lot for me and I'm definitely looking for that middle ground in PvE vs PvP.
Looking forward to your coverage of it.
Was wondering if it is designed to be played both solo and as a group or just focused to be experiences as a squad only?
very great and neutral documentation kind of video, keep it up
I really hope this game does well it looks incredible. DEADSIDE uses the same respawn in same map on death and able to run back and get your gear however i must say i am not a big fan of it in this particular game but i will be trying out grayzone for sure
[QUESTION] Ive played a lot of tarkov but no dayz, does dayz (or similar games) develop that same annoying predictability of knowing exactly where people will be and go? I imagine it would be to a lesser degree but that it would still show up in hot spot areas with good loot where people will know 'rat spots' and camp.
I appreciate how you mention everyone needs a different balance of PvE versus PvP interaction, while playing a PvEvP. So far, Tarkov came closest to do this for me. But it's like you said; even though I love PvP, avoiding PvP when you need to can often be so hard, and there is nothing worse than the abuse by players of this fact. I do hope they don't make this game too expensive, because I feel it will be quite the experiment..
Sounds like a game I can get into. The thing about EFT is the gear fear and people who are so much better at the game stuff like that. But if all goes well you better believe I will get this game.
Lets go! I stopped playing EFT because I don't have the time to enjoy it so I'm hoping more casual players will have a better time with this
So will the safehouses be vulnerable to attack when you're not online? I don't really have that much free time to constantly be playing a game to make sure things are ok with it...
Cautiously optimistic
very cool concept.. only concern is, is there gonna be a team of 4 or 5 giga chads that just absolutely pummel the lobby and no progression can be made? lol if so are there gonna be different servers to join so you can avoid such situations? also will there be a sort of communication with other players such as VOIP or an in game chat? if you already answered the questions i apologize for missing them.... very well put together video btw.. new sub
Oh man... when I saw the cycle frontier gameplay my heart felt só sad.... the game was fun I used to play it a lot
I'm really interested to see how the griefing will happen, the ability to rush back to your loot and fight for it again is gonna make a lot of interesting dynamics.
lmfao at the dark and darker clip. that game is cursed hahahahha
Me an SPT enjoyer :p
This game will seriously live or die on its ability to prevent hacking.
It's more like a permanent arma mod doing ops and quests. Instead of some weird role play op.
will you be able to spawn in as a scav or raider?
If it's a persistent map does that mean it has a finite amount of loot?
this is turning out to be a baby between Tarkov, GR: Breakpoint and The division imo, couldn't be more excited
I remember watching a video years ago of 2 PMCs going at it in dorms..it was at night and they were using night vision.. grenades going off that made the lights fall and flicker. The NPC in said video was running low on ammo in his mags and he had to pack a few rounds at a time trying to get a new mag ready so he wouldn't run out. I remember thinking WHAT is this game I need to know more. The rest is history but I'm jaded now due to the cheaters and I haven't played in a while. I'm looking forward to something new.
I understand the appeal of the continuous server for some but what i like about tarkov is that the death is so final, you die, its over. Knowing i can kill someone or die and they can just come back takes away that feeling personally.
Very understandable. I definitely feel like that is a dividing line where some people love it and some people don't. It's one of the biggest reasons I hope that this and Tarkov both do well and continue to thrive. More cool experiences is more better lol
@@JesseKazamMore betterer*
agree, this is so stupid if you die from an AI and you can come back looting again what u lost like dayz. this delete all the ''survival'' feeling.
@@Pandoratomorrow11the chances of this happening on such a large map are slim to none. The devs have stated it would take you 10-15 min on average to go back to most locations to get your stuff. By then if you haven't looted and moved away from that area, then you deserve to lose your stuff.
I love the zombie aspect of DayZ, but I love the feel and gameplay of Tarkov. I wished there was a Zombie Extraction game and you have to level up your community, instead of a "hideout". I would have AI zombies, and AI Survivors who could be friendly or not depending on variables. Each AI survivor would have a different ability and depending on that ability you could have them escorted back to your community and theyll be apart of it. Like say.. you found an AI Survivor who is a doctor. You bring them back to your community and you would have Lvl.1 medstation and from there you would need supplies to level it up. When players die, they will be turned into a zombie (TWD rules) and carry their loot on them. Zombies would follow sounds and could herd together. Imagine walking around with a pistol, attracting zombies, and just sending them through Resort on shoreline, and listening to other players fight them off.
During the beginning of the wipe, actual guns and ammo would be available to everyone, and over time youd have to makeshift your bullets and weapons as they become more scarce. Of course, it would be a part of your community and depending on your community and what you have, the more you can do.
Idk I think it would be a pretty neat concept. Of course, its not all planned out, but in my mind it would be all fleshed out without any real setbacks like no one having a weapon entirely and only relying on melee weapons or something.
I don't think MWII's DMZ mode gets enough recognition and love.
Isn’t this exactly what Tarkov said it would do.
For years now I’ve been told that one day Tarkov will be 1 huge persistent map with UN checkpoints separating higher level areas
A nice looking game that will be popular for a few months
I miss the cycle frontier. My duo is too casual to get into tarkov and the cycle frontier casualfied the genre enough for him, but not too much to be marauders/hunt showdown.