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I feel that the faction on faction warfare (AI v AI, that is) is something that NEEDS to happen. If the AI only ever shoot at players, then everyone else within audio distance will immediately know that there are players nearby to fight. However, if you cannot tell whether or not a gunfight involves players, I believe people will be less likely to just hold W towards them. Overall looks super interesting though.
100%! It's also a fantastic way to really sell the reality of the conflict zone you're in, rather than it just feeling like an AI-killing arena. Helps to embed the player within the game world!
Arma 3 already has this, you can actually have two armies fight against eachother (although the AI is not that good lol). I love to sometimes open the editor and mess around, as if I'm fighting in a full on war!
Main thing that will make or break this game though is if the AI is brain dead like in 99% of other shooters. I get so bored with milsim style PvE games when the AI is only challenging because they have godlike aim. Ironically Call of Duty has some of the most realistic looking AI when it comes to them actually using cover, blind fire, etc.. Where as the main milsim game Arma the AI can't do anything other than stand up or lay down in the middle of the open. If they can't make decent AI, they just need to scrap this idea and make it PvPvE.
Yeah, when you boil everything down to the basics everything is everything. The point of differentiating by saying "not an extraction shooter", is cause the only game everyone would think of then is Tarkov and would instantly compare when there is barely anything similar. It's the same sort of thing as saying that a game is "souls like" for having a dodge roll mechanic and 3rd person, it dumbs everything down to nothingness. Is the new Need For Speed games now considered fuckin "extraction drivers" cause they feature the ability to extract at certain points of the map after earning enough money? exactly no.
No quests requiring to kill pmcs is such a refreshing take. I adore it. I´m so tired of being stuck on some shitty uncreative "kill three players with a gun you don´t like under conditions that make it even worse to do" quests you get everywhere. I don´t have a 15 year olds crazy ass reflexes and i´m tired of having to force myself into situations i usually would avoid due to basic branfunction. Here goes hoping this one works out
I think it’s more realistic for this setting. This isn’t Tarkov where PMCs are cut off from command; they’re active PMCs in a conflict zone. In almost no situation would a PMC be ordered to fire on another PMC… but it could happen, given circumstances on the field.
Then don't play online shooters simple fix. I hate how much people cry about shit these days it's absolutely insane. If you know the perfect game...Develope it if not stop nothing other with your needs
"I hate how much people cry about shit these days" *Proceeds to cry about some stupid shit* Shut up and go be a waste of space somewhere else kiddo@@shepherdrm8486
@@pieppy6058 Load in, collect things, the only way to keep collected things is to go back to a DZ and call in an extraction helicopter. This is an extraction game.
Just hope it's the game Riloe is showing and not getting catfish in the end when it's released. Mobile games and PC games aren't the same thing. And trying to port them is never a good thing.
I had to pause the video to say this, man. This is exactly the kind of content I'm looking for. 100% you did fantastic job covering this. I got a lot of information, and it answered a lot of questions I had a out this game the moment it started putting out trailers. Keep up the good work, man. Looking forward to more of your long form content.
Some trailers to drum up interest, now letting some people get a behind the scenes peek to give an honest reporting. I like that as a marketing strategy. Them making it clear they're not ready with a full multiplayer build at this point especially inspires confidence with me. They understand the people that start paying attention this early will get that, no need for fake tech demo's and empty promises. Just letting us know what the vision is and how far along it is is great, let 'm cook I say.
As someone coming from EFT and who has stopped playing it because of all it's issues, I really have big hopes for this game. They seem to be experienced as devs, to have a clear idea of what the community wants but also have their own vision completed by taking the best out of every game in the genre. It's great to feel like we're being taken seriously and listened to as players for once, no promises are being made in order to not disappoint, and every bit of ressources they have is apparently being used to make this project better instead of over-inflating the hype around it. I basically feel like I'm looking at what EFT "should've been" to be more popular.
Tarkov is the best its ever been, and not to pull on the same stick but the game's still on Beta - and yes, good things take time, especially from indie devs who don't have AAA budgets starting off. If you really liked EFT in the start, you will definately love it more now at its current state, and hopefully 1.0 release comes 2024.
@@maniacguitar EFT has been out since 2017 according to my registration. They had plenty of time to get their shit together with hackers especially. I stopped playing in may last year so maybe they fixed that now
@@cjerp I disagree with your comment. Game development is not as easy as it seems, there's been several big budget games that have failed due to hackers. Thinking it's the devs fault is just throwing salt on the wound.
@@maniacguitarthe devs allowed hacking for so long on eft. I stopped playing bc I can’t enjoy a game where I constantly know imma get killed by a hacker on every match ..
@@TherandomguyTV I disagree with your wording - devs didn't "allow" hacking, they battled against it and it's been a long hard battle but they are now coming on top. I remember a few years ago I got killed by hackers one of every 5 games. Now Ive only had 3 cheaters in several months worth of play. I feel you though, there isn't anything worse than hackers - especially in a game like Tarkov where you do feel at loss when you get hacked on.
The fact this video has 40,000 views in a DAY is wild to me, as it’s basically my first longform video. I’m so glad so many of you seem to have found the video informative and interesting! If you’re new here, I’m glad you found the channel through whatever means. Expect much more content similar to this in the near future!
Having 4 squads for each faction makes me wish that the squad leaders can talk to each other through comms so they can relay info to each other. Imagine one squad is currently under fire, whether from the AI or Players and another squad happens to be nearby to flank.
Yeah I hope they encourage different squad from the same faction to have an incentive to work together. So picking your faction may have an effect on how you in interacted with other player squads.
@@wowawewah Yeah you can talk directly to Squad 1 till 9 with the numbers on your num-pad in Squad. Would be cool if they put it in this game too for the 4 teams of the 3 factions...
I was very confused with what they were going for, and now that I know it is mainly focused on PvE it really made me excited. The only thing I wish for now is some sort of offline mode for the game, which I think works alot better here compared to Tarkov. Not that I want to avoid other players and PvP (which seems to be cool here as well), but to guarantee the future of it if ever the game dies down. Maybe some sort of "coop only" mode as well to mix up the experience, but maybe I am just so tired of Tarkov at this point and perhaps this game will not get as old lol. Looks super promising! Especially loving the quest types, which seem less focused on just hoarding junk etc.
Second this. My concern with PvP is always that while you can choose to avoid it. That’s just half of the equation. You can never choose not to have somebody else impact your game. A coop mode would open this up to everybody interested in this type of title without interest in pvp. If the game already has competent AI , a coop mode wouldn’t be super difficult to add either.
Even if the devs really don’t want to add a PvE only mode or offline, they would lose out on a whole bunch of gamers who are looking for singleplayer tactical experiences. This could be the closest thing we have to a new Ghost Recon.
I want offline just to avoid the time wasted by matchmaking. If you spend an hour playing Tarkov, you're lucky to spend 20 minutes of that hour in raid. I only play the Single Player Tarkov mod now because I'm tired of waiting for matchmaking.
Riloe, this was an excellently laid out and paced breakdown of GZW that felt really well grounded and addressed a lot of concerns any sane tactical gamer would have about the project. Thanks for putting it together! Your work deserves a "salute" from this guy o7
This game is shaping up to be everything I’ve wanted from this sub-genre. I’m so HYPED for the passion that seems to be flowing behind this game. It has a core identity to it that I think shows it has direction. Fucking non-linear gameplay mixed with needing to dig deeper as a player instead of being spoon feed shit.
Thank you for covering this game. As a Tarkov player it is refreshing to hear that PVP is not forced (i don't mind it but i don't chase it) salute to you and your content. (found you through shorts but stayed for the long form content)
Games with a good bit of actual thought out lore and setting will always intrigue me more then just the way it plays. Take me, I'm ready to be immersed 🍑
He also said this is more than an extraction shooter and takes elements from a lot of titles. He should of said this is not "just" and extraction shooter.
I've now watched 4 vids (back-to-back) on this game, recapping the same information you are covering. YOUR coverage, however, has been the most complete and thought-provoking!
Thank you, that means a lot! I tried to be concise while also covering the HUGE swaths of information we got all at once. There's more to talk about too...
I really hope they take their time and release the game in a decent state to the wider public. Everything the devs said sounds good band it really feels like they want to actively communicate with interested/ potential players, which is incredibly important and a lot of companies lack that communication with their community (*cough cough bsg). However I think its always important to not jump on any hypetrains and blindly pre-order anything. We hall know by now that AAA studios abuse that willingness to buy stuff blindly and some indie devs are certainly picking that up (not always with malicious intend). Thanks packing the vid with info and keeping it concise, keep it up G. o7
The core gameplay loop (just from a single-player perspective) seems somewhat reminiscent of Lethal Company. Obviously very much not the same thing, and I’m not even suggesting that it’s inspired. You go in, explore the abandoned area with your squad, find valuable items and take them back to your “base,” then once you’re ready, you take your loot and dip outta there. Another similarity, you’re just a company hire doing your job for the money.
I just want to say a massive congrats to Riloe. For those who don’t know, this man has gone from posting clips of him and his friends to being one of the best sources of tarkov information in short form media. And now a new milestone, this RUclips video has 30k views in less than ONE DAY. It’s been great to experience this journey with you Riloe and wish you as much success as you deserve in the new year and more!
One thing I am concerned about is any provisions for single player. I know that it is not the main aim of the game, however I feel like it would be a worth while investmen especially if the game devolves into tryhards and metas. Something that will allow people to play a more relaxed version of the game, not wondering if a squad of the most sweaty people alive is about to camp one mission area and take all your loot.
@@JayJayH3424i personally like the gun game mechanics. Like how you fight other players, dont really like the survival aspect. Ita draining for me which is why i play arena now.
I will forever be wary of games and their promises but from what I've seen after watching a few videos on this title, its definitely one worth keeping an eye on!!
I’m always cautious when it comes to indie developed games with high targets but this project does have a lot of green flags and very few red flags. Looking forward to getting my hands on it hopefully next year!
At least this studio has games under their belt. And pretty good ones at that. This is a huge undertaking, but if we get a beta that's as good or better than tarkov started, I'll be more than happy to buy into it.
The track record of these devs is great! Their games are often very beautiful looking, bug free, fun, networked mobile games. This could actually give them a leg up. Since they are used to making networked, well working and performant mobile games, means they have a lot of experience with getting good looking games running on many different platforms (different phones with many different chipsets) So they are probably more experienced with the things where most indie game devs burn. QA, performance tweaking, proper networking etc. I mean their games are mobile, but that's not saying anything perse. Their games could have been made for any platform tbh. I have very high hopes for this game. And for me personally this style and level design is perfect! Never played Tarkov, but I've always loved games like Dayz (even the ultra janky mod), rust, scum etc. This game actually seems much more fun than Tarkov to me. Edit: Salute
@mrphoenix5951 I hope you don't apply this mindset to your own relationships. It's never a given of course, but it absolutely does say something about what you might expect!
What does this opinion have to do with relationships? What kinda passive jab is this? Projecting much? Either way, no one's got time for your liberal shenanigans.@@DeltaNovum
I used to play their game Shadowgun deadzone on Facebook back in the days, it was the first game that i put in ridiculous amount of hours into. really good to see the studio has stepped up.
This game looks amazing! I salute the Madfinger for being so transparent and setting out to build such an immersive experience. I'll definitely be looking forward to that early access release! Also great coverage on your part! Thanks for making this video!
The quote about this being a game for mature gamers and they won't be dumbing it down, is a huge win and selling point for me. One of the worst trends in gaming nowadays, is just that, dumbing games down. Picking this up asap.
I'd like to see PvE only servers. Because you know a lot of people will just focus on PVP. Have all 3 PMC groups on a server, but no PVP. That's the only way I would play the game.
I already loved the trailer but with all this information you got me hyped for this game. They way you described the devs sounds very promising so I hope they actually deliver.
Oh man, the whole PvP not being 'forced' thing is really peaking my interest. One of fav experiences with these types of games was playing Dayz Epoch one time and just causally trading with a whole squad of other players I ran into while scavenging - swapping mags and food. Really nice guys, just wanted info on hostiles in the area. I really hope this game has some instances of players going '8 guns is better than 4', specially with high level AI militaries.
If it's anything like what happens when an entire server bands together on sea of thieves, then I can only assume it'll be absolutely epic. Sure coordinating several squads possibly without direct radio contact to avoid friendly fire would be an absolute nightmare, but the rewards for domination of the map would be absolutely awesome. People in the milsim community would jump at such a challenge to orchestrate complex overlapping raids.
Damn looks like they are using real manufactures in this game. Once of the scopes had a "Vortex" label. I also saw a Daniel Defense M4A1 RIS 2 Rail and a Daniel Defense DDM4V7 coated in their Milspec brown. It even had Daniel Defense's proprietary furniture That comes on all their AR's. I really hope it stays this way in the future.
Huge thanks for posting this information. This game is honestly my most anticipated of the decade. I’m a dad now so don’t get much time, but this is everything I’ve ever wanted in a game.
i still don't understand how anyone expected anything other than what the day before ended up as, what were you doing? imagining how you'd like the game to be? even though they called it a "mmo" it was always clear it was just an extraction shooter, must be a gen z thing
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 cyberpunk wasn’t a scam or a rugpull though. That was a very sad case of passionate devs being crushed under the weight of horrible corporate management
So hard to contain my excitement for this game and prevent the hype from overtaking me! Can’t wait to see more from MFG and I really hope they can bring their vision for the game to life! Also I would love to hear more about the irl PMC and Grayzone Warfare stuff from you in the future, if you’re interested in covering that!
100% going to cover it. The politics of "Gray Zone Warfare" IRL are actually FASCINATING and I'd love to break down how this game is handling warfare so much more realistically than most.
Honestly you describe it so well I'd be completely fine with this being a shortfilm or even a radio-theater, I don't even need to play this cause I'm so interested in the story I feel like playing it as a video game would ruin that immersion.
Algo sent me. I really like how you covered a lot of the meta and general questions/concerns the average viewer/gamer would have. Very excited for this game. Great vid. 🍻
I salute your coverage of this game I never really knew what it was about but this seems like it will be among my favorite tactical shooters when it releases.
I hope conducting reconnaissance and surveillance is a big driving focus to complete objectives instead of what we been getting with a lot of tactical shooters just hit an objective and loot
As someone who has already play many MFG's games back in the days, I have a lot of trust in their capabilities and the qualities of their games. I'd also like to know to which extent is the customization of the weapons and armors are going to be?
I am very excited. I have no negative caveats to present whatsoever. This seems like a perfect experience with intentional squad-based tactics and open exploration. It pulls together a bunch of things from other games I already loved but which did not have satisying or intense enough gameplay loops. This gameplay loop seems decision-based and interesting. A good risk/reward beneficiary balance. Be on the look out for this game FOR SURE.
@riloe Gaming it might be worthwhile communicating to the devs that there is a alot of distance between hand holding and making players dependent on third parties to complete quests. One of my biggest frustrations about Tarkov is quest design and a large number of quests are nearly impossible to complete without relying on 3rd party sources like the wiki. They should explore ways to bridge that gap in an immersive way in game.
of course i will be skeptical but IF they deliver on what they're saying this does look like it will be a very interesting game! i would love to see a pve only mode or even a zeus mode like in arma, as it really seems like an amazing canvas for that, and thanks for the explanation and stuff on the game, was easy to follow so great vid!
It pains me to say that this looks a lot like Escape From Tarkov but on a way bigger map. Inventory looks extremely similar, gunplay is similar, quest structure is practically identical, traders look near identical, extraction mechanics much in the same vein as Tarkov, and PvP that will probably end up being required for later quests just like in Tarkov.
So it's another tired PVPVE extraction shooter like the tons of other clones out there that will soon be overrun by hackers and griefers. Exactly what we thought it was. Where's the mystery?
This Not-An-Extraction shooter where you take gear into a raid, loot and shoot and then try to extract with whatever you picked up in order to secure it in your base actually looks really sweet, hope the gameplay lives up to the top notch visuals.
@@AllegiancyIt is literally by definition an extraction shooter that's the genre lmfaoo that's what makes the difference between the genre of open world survival game (stalker) and extraction shooter (tarkov) you're the one being ignorant
Ong, extraction shooter is literally go into a mission, focus on getting loot and finishing the quest and then leaving rather than focusing on killing as many enemies as possible
Salute my guy. Salute. This is the very first interaction i have with this game, and i have to say. This looks promising, very much so. I dearly hope the studio can get this game to fruition as per what they have imagined ^^
The best part for me is that you will have a choice to play pure pve or pvpve so you don't always have to PVP if you don't feel like it. Being a player that likes to bounce back and fourth between the two I'll be supporting these guys for sure. Very excited for this game.
umm good luck with that 95% of players in hard core games like this will always shot other players on sight so they them selves cant be attacked . shame the devs havent realised this.
Honestly this gives me some hope. The thing that turned me away from EFT was forced tk do the quests. Maybe I misunderstood you but if questing is optional, and even if i miss out on some things. I wouldnt mind spending my time just hunting players
This is first I’ve heard about this but I am PUMPED for it!! I love playing a modded Ghost Recon Breakpoint and I like Arma 3 and Squad too. I don’t have enough free time to get into Tarkov and this looks like the perfect in between
I absolutely love how theres no way points and cookie cutter queats. You find it out on your own. It immerses you so much more in the game and adds so much ive been dying for a game to be like this. Game sounds so promising like a game ive been waiting since i was a kid for...
My knockout criterion for a PvE shooter is still the AI. If the enemy AI is like in the current tactical shooters, “Greyzone” has already lost. I finally want an enemy AI that is not recognizable through its accuracy, but through tactical approach and accuracy, the correct use of weapons, correct tactical approach, etc. I want the NPC to actually seem like he wants to take me out as effectively as possible. (This is how an AI should differ from "poorly trained" to "elite soldiers") If current shooters were to be improved with such an AI, completely new games would result. Thanks for sticking around and for the great video.
Great video, great explanation. I've seen this game several times from several different content creators and had zero interest in playing it. Now I can say, I'm properly excited. Great marketing. Great work.👍🏻 Salute!
Bro I grew up playing the dead trigger franchise and when I heard they sold their catalogue to Deca it saddened me but to see the same studio developing games like this makes it all worth it
I absolutely love the idea of this game and i hope so much that it does well. I just really hope that they are ready for the influx of players that WILL come on release day, and week. I hope that the servers are ready to hold all of the people that will flood to this game.
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I feel that the faction on faction warfare (AI v AI, that is) is something that NEEDS to happen. If the AI only ever shoot at players, then everyone else within audio distance will immediately know that there are players nearby to fight. However, if you cannot tell whether or not a gunfight involves players, I believe people will be less likely to just hold W towards them. Overall looks super interesting though.
100%! It's also a fantastic way to really sell the reality of the conflict zone you're in, rather than it just feeling like an AI-killing arena. Helps to embed the player within the game world!
I agree! That was one of the best mechanics that came out of STALKER. It really makes for a very dynamic environment within the game.
Arma 3 already has this, you can actually have two armies fight against eachother (although the AI is not that good lol). I love to sometimes open the editor and mess around, as if I'm fighting in a full on war!
@@riloegamingsend this to devs then
Main thing that will make or break this game though is if the AI is brain dead like in 99% of other shooters. I get so bored with milsim style PvE games when the AI is only challenging because they have godlike aim. Ironically Call of Duty has some of the most realistic looking AI when it comes to them actually using cover, blind fire, etc.. Where as the main milsim game Arma the AI can't do anything other than stand up or lay down in the middle of the open. If they can't make decent AI, they just need to scrap this idea and make it PvPvE.
"This is not an extraction shooter"
"What you do in this game is enter the playing area, loot and then extract with your loot."
Lol yeah wtf was that about
"not an extraction shooter... NOT AT ALL"
I get what he's trying to go for, but it still is an extraction shooter. It's not Tarkov or Hunt Showdown, but it still is one.
It's such a shill and he tries to discredit any comparisons to Tarkov by making such an obviously false claim lol
Yeah, when you boil everything down to the basics everything is everything. The point of differentiating by saying "not an extraction shooter", is cause the only game everyone would think of then is Tarkov and would instantly compare when there is barely anything similar. It's the same sort of thing as saying that a game is "souls like" for having a dodge roll mechanic and 3rd person, it dumbs everything down to nothingness.
Is the new Need For Speed games now considered fuckin "extraction drivers" cause they feature the ability to extract at certain points of the map after earning enough money? exactly no.
No quests requiring to kill pmcs is such a refreshing take. I adore it. I´m so tired of being stuck on some shitty uncreative "kill three players with a gun you don´t like under conditions that make it even worse to do" quests you get everywhere. I don´t have a 15 year olds crazy ass reflexes and i´m tired of having to force myself into situations i usually would avoid due to basic branfunction. Here goes hoping this one works out
I think it’s more realistic for this setting. This isn’t Tarkov where PMCs are cut off from command; they’re active PMCs in a conflict zone. In almost no situation would a PMC be ordered to fire on another PMC… but it could happen, given circumstances on the field.
We both know it will end in a pvp manhunt type in a few days after release like in any other game where pvp is an option
Then don't play online shooters simple fix.
I hate how much people cry about shit these days it's absolutely insane.
If you know the perfect game...Develope it if not stop nothing other with your needs
Dont get me wrong i will be the one who will hunt :3 @@shepherdrm8486
"I hate how much people cry about shit these days" *Proceeds to cry about some stupid shit* Shut up and go be a waste of space somewhere else kiddo@@shepherdrm8486
"Not and extraction shooter" Instantly describes a very in depth extraction shooter that meets 110% of extraction shooter criteria and tropes.
Extraction shooter is PVPVE.
This game has like 1 square km per person on the map (in theory).
It is a PvE game basically
@@pieppy6058 still an extraction shooter
The big difference is there is a persistent world, in extraction shooters the server closes down when everyone is done, this one just keeps chugging.
@@pieppy6058 Load in, collect things, the only way to keep collected things is to go back to a DZ and call in an extraction helicopter. This is an extraction game.
all this feels just like another early access scam
The fact that this studio went from creating amazing zombie mobile phone games to creating PC tarkov-esque games is amazing.
Dead trigger 1/2 was my childhood bruh
Just hope it's the game Riloe is showing and not getting catfish in the end when it's released.
Mobile games and PC games aren't the same thing. And trying to port them is never a good thing.
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 I’ve seen the game. It’s very real, just need to give them time to get it where they want it
@@riloegaming yep
Pay to win mobile games (where you buy grenades and the good weapons) are amazing? 😂
I had to pause the video to say this, man. This is exactly the kind of content I'm looking for. 100% you did fantastic job covering this. I got a lot of information, and it answered a lot of questions I had a out this game the moment it started putting out trailers.
Keep up the good work, man. Looking forward to more of your long form content.
Appreciate it! Looking forward to making more!
Some trailers to drum up interest, now letting some people get a behind the scenes peek to give an honest reporting. I like that as a marketing strategy.
Them making it clear they're not ready with a full multiplayer build at this point especially inspires confidence with me. They understand the people that start paying attention this early will get that, no need for fake tech demo's and empty promises. Just letting us know what the vision is and how far along it is is great, let 'm cook I say.
As someone coming from EFT and who has stopped playing it because of all it's issues, I really have big hopes for this game. They seem to be experienced as devs, to have a clear idea of what the community wants but also have their own vision completed by taking the best out of every game in the genre. It's great to feel like we're being taken seriously and listened to as players for once, no promises are being made in order to not disappoint, and every bit of ressources they have is apparently being used to make this project better instead of over-inflating the hype around it. I basically feel like I'm looking at what EFT "should've been" to be more popular.
Tarkov is the best its ever been, and not to pull on the same stick but the game's still on Beta - and yes, good things take time, especially from indie devs who don't have AAA budgets starting off. If you really liked EFT in the start, you will definately love it more now at its current state, and hopefully 1.0 release comes 2024.
@@maniacguitar EFT has been out since 2017 according to my registration. They had plenty of time to get their shit together with hackers especially. I stopped playing in may last year so maybe they fixed that now
@@cjerp I disagree with your comment. Game development is not as easy as it seems, there's been several big budget games that have failed due to hackers. Thinking it's the devs fault is just throwing salt on the wound.
@@maniacguitarthe devs allowed hacking for so long on eft. I stopped playing bc I can’t enjoy a game where I constantly know imma get killed by a hacker on every match ..
@@TherandomguyTV I disagree with your wording - devs didn't "allow" hacking, they battled against it and it's been a long hard battle but they are now coming on top. I remember a few years ago I got killed by hackers one of every 5 games. Now Ive only had 3 cheaters in several months worth of play. I feel you though, there isn't anything worse than hackers - especially in a game like Tarkov where you do feel at loss when you get hacked on.
The fact this video has 40,000 views in a DAY is wild to me, as it’s basically my first longform video. I’m so glad so many of you seem to have found the video informative and interesting! If you’re new here, I’m glad you found the channel through whatever means. Expect much more content similar to this in the near future!
wonder if thats cuz its a better game than eft your a better youtuber when bsg's meat isnt down your throat :)
Riloegaming can you tell us the name of the factions or is that under NDA
@@IshmaelsGhost Yes they’re in the lore video on my channel!
@@riloegaming thx you
This was your first long form?!?! You're doing it like a pro my man. Absolutely perfect tempo and great information!
Having 4 squads for each faction makes me wish that the squad leaders can talk to each other through comms so they can relay info to each other.
Imagine one squad is currently under fire, whether from the AI or Players and another squad happens to be nearby to flank.
That would be a really interesting idea! I'd love to see how communication within PMCs works, if that's planned.
Yeah I hope they encourage different squad from the same faction to have an incentive to work together. So picking your faction may have an effect on how you in interacted with other player squads.
I think Squad has this if I'm not mistaken
or even missions that are so big or difficult you need more than one squad to complete it
@@wowawewah Yeah you can talk directly to Squad 1 till 9 with the numbers on your num-pad in Squad.
Would be cool if they put it in this game too for the 4 teams of the 3 factions...
I was very confused with what they were going for, and now that I know it is mainly focused on PvE it really made me excited. The only thing I wish for now is some sort of offline mode for the game, which I think works alot better here compared to Tarkov. Not that I want to avoid other players and PvP (which seems to be cool here as well), but to guarantee the future of it if ever the game dies down. Maybe some sort of "coop only" mode as well to mix up the experience, but maybe I am just so tired of Tarkov at this point and perhaps this game will not get as old lol. Looks super promising! Especially loving the quest types, which seem less focused on just hoarding junk etc.
Yeah. Having an offline mode would be awesome.
Second this. My concern with PvP is always that while you can choose to avoid it. That’s just half of the equation. You can never choose not to have somebody else impact your game. A coop mode would open this up to everybody interested in this type of title without interest in pvp. If the game already has competent AI , a coop mode wouldn’t be super difficult to add either.
I hate online PvP. You‘ll always have cheaters or sweats ruining your experience. I‘d rather have it co-op or single player.
Even if the devs really don’t want to add a PvE only mode or offline, they would lose out on a whole bunch of gamers who are looking for singleplayer tactical experiences. This could be the closest thing we have to a new Ghost Recon.
I want offline just to avoid the time wasted by matchmaking. If you spend an hour playing Tarkov, you're lucky to spend 20 minutes of that hour in raid. I only play the Single Player Tarkov mod now because I'm tired of waiting for matchmaking.
Riloe, this was an excellently laid out and paced breakdown of GZW that felt really well grounded and addressed a lot of concerns any sane tactical gamer would have about the project. Thanks for putting it together! Your work deserves a "salute" from this guy o7
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This game is shaping up to be everything I’ve wanted from this sub-genre. I’m so HYPED for the passion that seems to be flowing behind this game. It has a core identity to it that I think shows it has direction. Fucking non-linear gameplay mixed with needing to dig deeper as a player instead of being spoon feed shit.
200% agree mate
It's a modern Day Z, calm your tits.
Thank you for covering this game. As a Tarkov player it is refreshing to hear that PVP is not forced (i don't mind it but i don't chase it) salute to you and your content. (found you through shorts but stayed for the long form content)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
Games with a good bit of actual thought out lore and setting will always intrigue me more then just the way it plays. Take me, I'm ready to be immersed 🍑
Personally I agree! For some people, gameplay is everything, but lore and tone takes things a LONG way for me.
Exactly 💯💯💯
🍆 I'm ready!
"This is not an extraction shooter" goes on to describe extraction shooter almost exactly like Tarkov in the Jungle.
He also said this is more than an extraction shooter and takes elements from a lot of titles. He should of said this is not "just" and extraction shooter.
I've now watched 4 vids (back-to-back) on this game, recapping the same information you are covering. YOUR coverage, however, has been the most complete and thought-provoking!
Thank you, that means a lot! I tried to be concise while also covering the HUGE swaths of information we got all at once. There's more to talk about too...
I really hope they take their time and release the game in a decent state to the wider public. Everything the devs said sounds good band it really feels like they want to actively communicate with interested/ potential players, which is incredibly important and a lot of companies lack that communication with their community (*cough cough bsg). However I think its always important to not jump on any hypetrains and blindly pre-order anything. We hall know by now that AAA studios abuse that willingness to buy stuff blindly and some indie devs are certainly picking that up (not always with malicious intend).
Thanks packing the vid with info and keeping it concise, keep it up G. o7
The core gameplay loop (just from a single-player perspective) seems somewhat reminiscent of Lethal Company. Obviously very much not the same thing, and I’m not even suggesting that it’s inspired. You go in, explore the abandoned area with your squad, find valuable items and take them back to your “base,” then once you’re ready, you take your loot and dip outta there. Another similarity, you’re just a company hire doing your job for the money.
I just want to say a massive congrats to Riloe.
For those who don’t know, this man has gone from posting clips of him and his friends to being one of the best sources of tarkov information in short form media. And now a new milestone, this RUclips video has 30k views in less than ONE DAY.
It’s been great to experience this journey with you Riloe and wish you as much success as you deserve in the new year and more!
TY mr chef :)
@@riloegaming YW mr riloe (:
One thing I am concerned about is any provisions for single player. I know that it is not the main aim of the game, however I feel like it would be a worth while investmen especially if the game devolves into tryhards and metas. Something that will allow people to play a more relaxed version of the game, not wondering if a squad of the most sweaty people alive is about to camp one mission area and take all your loot.
I'm excited for Greyzone. It might be the only game that gets me away from Tarkov.
Only game keeping me away from tarkov is tarkov itself
Tarkov is only popular cuz it's the only game like it ATM
BSG better look out!
@@JayJayH3424i personally like the gun game mechanics. Like how you fight other players, dont really like the survival aspect. Ita draining for me which is why i play arena now.
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This is literally the objective definition of an extraction shooter lmfao
I will forever be wary of games and their promises but from what I've seen after watching a few videos on this title, its definitely one worth keeping an eye on!!
“This isn’t an extraction shooter, but you will be looting, extracting, and shooting”
I’m always cautious when it comes to indie developed games with high targets but this project does have a lot of green flags and very few red flags. Looking forward to getting my hands on it hopefully next year!
At least this studio has games under their belt. And pretty good ones at that. This is a huge undertaking, but if we get a beta that's as good or better than tarkov started, I'll be more than happy to buy into it.
The track record of these devs is great! Their games are often very beautiful looking, bug free, fun, networked mobile games. This could actually give them a leg up. Since they are used to making networked, well working and performant mobile games, means they have a lot of experience with getting good looking games running on many different platforms (different phones with many different chipsets) So they are probably more experienced with the things where most indie game devs burn. QA, performance tweaking, proper networking etc.
I mean their games are mobile, but that's not saying anything perse. Their games could have been made for any platform tbh. I have very high hopes for this game. And for me personally this style and level design is perfect! Never played Tarkov, but I've always loved games like Dayz (even the ultra janky mod), rust, scum etc. This game actually seems much more fun than Tarkov to me.
Edit: Salute
@@DeltaNovum good record doesn't mean anything unfortunately but i'd rather expect nothing and get a surprise hype train is the worst
@mrphoenix5951 I hope you don't apply this mindset to your own relationships. It's never a given of course, but it absolutely does say something about what you might expect!
What does this opinion have to do with relationships? What kinda passive jab is this? Projecting much? Either way, no one's got time for your liberal shenanigans.@@DeltaNovum
I used to play their game Shadowgun deadzone on Facebook back in the days, it was the first game that i put in ridiculous amount of hours into. really good to see the studio has stepped up.
Haha nice!
The minute I reached "Roadside Picnic" I was instantly sold, having also seen the existing footage from this game. Super hyped for this
their is seemingly nothing from RSP in this video
This game looks amazing! I salute the Madfinger for being so transparent and setting out to build such an immersive experience. I'll definitely be looking forward to that early access release!
Also great coverage on your part! Thanks for making this video!
The quote about this being a game for mature gamers and they won't be dumbing it down, is a huge win and selling point for me. One of the worst trends in gaming nowadays, is just that, dumbing games down. Picking this up asap.
I'd like to see PvE only servers. Because you know a lot of people will just focus on PVP. Have all 3 PMC groups on a server, but no PVP. That's the only way I would play the game.
I already loved the trailer but with all this information you got me hyped for this game. They way you described the devs sounds very promising so I hope they actually deliver.
Thanks for making a clear and informative video about this game. I really enjoyed it! Keep up the great work!
I love how you breakdown the mechanics of the game. You’re quickly becoming one of my favorite content creators.
Thank you I appreciate it!!
Oh man, the whole PvP not being 'forced' thing is really peaking my interest. One of fav experiences with these types of games was playing Dayz Epoch one time and just causally trading with a whole squad of other players I ran into while scavenging - swapping mags and food. Really nice guys, just wanted info on hostiles in the area.
I really hope this game has some instances of players going '8 guns is better than 4', specially with high level AI militaries.
If it's anything like what happens when an entire server bands together on sea of thieves, then I can only assume it'll be absolutely epic. Sure coordinating several squads possibly without direct radio contact to avoid friendly fire would be an absolute nightmare, but the rewards for domination of the map would be absolutely awesome. People in the milsim community would jump at such a challenge to orchestrate complex overlapping raids.
has to be one of the most informative vids on the interwebs. specially for being on a subject that has relatively little info to be had.
Thank you! Glad it helped
Damn looks like they are using real manufactures in this game. Once of the scopes had a "Vortex" label. I also saw a Daniel Defense M4A1 RIS 2 Rail and a Daniel Defense DDM4V7 coated in their Milspec brown. It even had Daniel Defense's proprietary furniture That comes on all their AR's. I really hope it stays this way in the future.
Huge thanks for posting this information. This game is honestly my most anticipated of the decade.
I’m a dad now so don’t get much time, but this is everything I’ve ever wanted in a game.
Any dev that starts a game showcase with "So remember that scam game? Look at this" has my full respect and attention instantly
It was a huge green flag tbh 😅
i still don't understand how anyone expected anything other than what the day before ended up as, what were you doing? imagining how you'd like the game to be? even though they called it a "mmo" it was always clear it was just an extraction shooter, must be a gen z thing
I kinda remember Cyberpunk publishers doing the same kinda of stunt and turned out they were part of the joke too.
@atlas2296 I'm not saying this is a scam but scammers do it all the time, it's a popular tactic to distract from their own scam.
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 cyberpunk wasn’t a scam or a rugpull though. That was a very sad case of passionate devs being crushed under the weight of horrible corporate management
Dude, the cycle frontier music you used here made me miss the game so much. Rest in piece
So hard to contain my excitement for this game and prevent the hype from overtaking me! Can’t wait to see more from MFG and I really hope they can bring their vision for the game to life!
Also I would love to hear more about the irl PMC and Grayzone Warfare stuff from you in the future, if you’re interested in covering that!
100% going to cover it. The politics of "Gray Zone Warfare" IRL are actually FASCINATING and I'd love to break down how this game is handling warfare so much more realistically than most.
Honestly you describe it so well I'd be completely fine with this being a shortfilm or even a radio-theater, I don't even need to play this cause I'm so interested in the story I feel like playing it as a video game would ruin that immersion.
Hahaha thank you! Peep the lore video too ❤
I think this is the most hyped I've ever been for a game, salute!
I’m so glad to hear the devs showed you the actual game.
When I first saw the trailer I thought it looked way too good to be true. So hyped!!
Algo sent me. I really like how you covered a lot of the meta and general questions/concerns the average viewer/gamer would have. Very excited for this game. Great vid. 🍻
Thank you!!
I salute your coverage of this game I never really knew what it was about but this seems like it will be among my favorite tactical shooters when it releases.
I hope conducting reconnaissance and surveillance is a big driving focus to complete objectives instead of what we been getting with a lot of tactical shooters just hit an objective and loot
Thats a good idea!
"this is not an extraction shooter", proceeds to describe an extraction shooter.
As someone who has already play many MFG's games back in the days, I have a lot of trust in their capabilities and the qualities of their games. I'd also like to know to which extent is the customization of the weapons and armors are going to be?
I am very excited. I have no negative caveats to present whatsoever. This seems like a perfect experience with intentional squad-based tactics and open exploration. It pulls together a bunch of things from other games I already loved but which did not have satisying or intense enough gameplay loops. This gameplay loop seems decision-based and interesting. A good risk/reward beneficiary balance. Be on the look out for this game FOR SURE.
@riloe Gaming it might be worthwhile communicating to the devs that there is a alot of distance between hand holding and making players dependent on third parties to complete quests. One of my biggest frustrations about Tarkov is quest design and a large number of quests are nearly impossible to complete without relying on 3rd party sources like the wiki. They should explore ways to bridge that gap in an immersive way in game.
This 100%
Tarkov is not “mature.” It’s a full time job and impossibly dense and unintuitive. Its quests don’t help it.
Interrogating civilians and looking for intel like files or hacking computers is how Ghost recon wildlands did it
of course i will be skeptical but IF they deliver on what they're saying this does look like it will be a very interesting game!
i would love to see a pve only mode or even a zeus mode like in arma, as it really seems like an amazing canvas for that, and thanks for the explanation and stuff on the game, was easy to follow so great vid!
Thank you!
if you have to go into a map, loot & kill, then leave, it is EXACTLY an extraction shooter.
It pains me to say that this looks a lot like Escape From Tarkov but on a way bigger map. Inventory looks extremely similar, gunplay is similar, quest structure is practically identical, traders look near identical, extraction mechanics much in the same vein as Tarkov, and PvP that will probably end up being required for later quests just like in Tarkov.
So it's another tired PVPVE extraction shooter like the tons of other clones out there that will soon be overrun by hackers and griefers. Exactly what we thought it was. Where's the mystery?
This Not-An-Extraction shooter where you take gear into a raid, loot and shoot and then try to extract with whatever you picked up in order to secure it in your base actually looks really sweet, hope the gameplay lives up to the top notch visuals.
"This is a game for mature audiences". I swear if they will have a Season 1 or 2 or whatever with pink furry outfits I am calling the police.
🖖 Happy to hear our little country is producing what could very well be another masterpiece like KCD or ARMA (Operation Flashpoint). o7 from Prague
"This is NOT an extraction shooter"
*Proceeds to explain how this is exactly an extraction shooter*
Actually surprised this is your first long form video. You present it like you’ve done it for years. Nice job
the health system sounds really interesting looking forward for this
If they do pve only servers I will be very interested. PvP in a game like this doesn’t interest me anymore.
Lol "this game is not an extraction shooter" proceeds to describe the exact definition of an extraction shooter
Its more like a "open world spec ops " (like Ghost Recon)
Definitely not a extraction shooter, don’t be ignorant
@@AllegiancyIt is literally by definition an extraction shooter that's the genre lmfaoo that's what makes the difference between the genre of open world survival game (stalker) and extraction shooter (tarkov) you're the one being ignorant
Ong, extraction shooter is literally go into a mission, focus on getting loot and finishing the quest and then leaving rather than focusing on killing as many enemies as possible
Exactly my thoughts, sounded like every other game I’ve played just trying to be hipster or something
Salute my guy. Salute.
This is the very first interaction i have with this game, and i have to say. This looks promising, very much so.
I dearly hope the studio can get this game to fruition as per what they have imagined ^^
Agreed! o7
Honestly, I think a COOP PVE only side of the game would be way more beneficial or a system that makes PVP have a cost even if you win.
Ive watched loads of grey zone videos this by far is the best ive seen thank you. salute
As somebody whom is Laotian on my mother's side, I see this as an absolute win.
Is it in laos?
congrats
@@jmgonzales7701 From what I can tell in the video, it's takes place on an island that an offshoot of Laos.
@@ryanblack5967 Thanks man, I tried.
@@ThatDogFromThatOneAnimelook for Naka Laos ;)
My jaw literally dropped when you said it was based on Roadside Picnic. The world needs more Tactical shooters set in that universe.
Well it’s not set in that universe per se. Just generally based around the core ideas of the book
Hm sounds awfully like an extraction shooter
"A farewell to arms". If these guys are actually well read people too, dropping small details like that, this is sounding like a passion project.
The best part for me is that you will have a choice to play pure pve or pvpve so you don't always have to PVP if you don't feel like it. Being a player that likes to bounce back and fourth between the two I'll be supporting these guys for sure. Very excited for this game.
You can choose not to engage other players, but they can attack you whenever, so there will always be PvP.
umm good luck with that 95% of players in hard core games like this will always shot other players on sight so they them selves cant be attacked . shame the devs havent realised this.
Keep it up Riloe this was indeed well informative. Looking forward for more content like this. I'm subscribing to notify me.
Thank you!
The info is appreciated, but there are several spots where you just talk too fast.
It’s something I’m working on!
Honestly this gives me some hope. The thing that turned me away from EFT was forced tk do the quests. Maybe I misunderstood you but if questing is optional, and even if i miss out on some things. I wouldnt mind spending my time just hunting players
I’m sure you can do whatever you want, but your enjoyment may be limited
A tip, talk slower!
You know u can Just change the playback speed bro
lilked and subbed. i salute your ability to convey so much information in a quick format.
Was kind of hoping for a game somewhere between Tarkov and DMZ ngl...
I'll keep it wishlisted, may help with funding/publishing.
salute, salute, salute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We appreciate you, Riloe!
“This is not an extraction shooter.” 3:55
This video definitely earned you a sub! Great job and thank you man!
Four words...BRING. IT. TO. CONCOLE. (without a bias platform specific launch/editions)
"It's not an extraction shooter" followed by you explaining how it is exactly an extraction shooter was pretty funny 🤣🤣
i think it was a better thing to say is not like EFT
Loved MFG's mobile games, some of the best quality around back in the day. Stoked to see and hear all of this and can't wait to jump in!
Your content is so good. Nice to listen to and always informative
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"no loading screens" lol ok, only thing thats worrying is how big their ego seems it may be their downfall
So how is this not an extraction shooter?? What you described is exactly what an extraction shooter is. This looks great, can't wait to see more.
I couldn't agree more. It doesn't make it a bad thing either.
This is first I’ve heard about this but I am PUMPED for it!! I love playing a modded Ghost Recon Breakpoint and I like Arma 3 and Squad too. I don’t have enough free time to get into Tarkov and this looks like the perfect in between
Salute to RUclips for recommending your channel. Great video!
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I am legit excited for this game, it looks like it'll scratch THAT particular itch in an actually good way!
I'm subscribing just for the sheer fact that when you said subscrible the subscribe button went rainbow. I love it 😂 8:00
I absolutely love how theres no way points and cookie cutter queats. You find it out on your own. It immerses you so much more in the game and adds so much ive been dying for a game to be like this. Game sounds so promising like a game ive been waiting since i was a kid for...
Let's just say, if they can eliminate and block hackers then this game will go far. It's a real issue and will be the make or break of this game.
This game looks and sounds amazing, plz keep us updated!
My knockout criterion for a PvE shooter is still the AI. If the enemy AI is like in the current tactical shooters, “Greyzone” has already lost. I finally want an enemy AI that is not recognizable through its accuracy, but through tactical approach and accuracy, the correct use of weapons, correct tactical approach, etc. I want the NPC to actually seem like he wants to take me out as effectively as possible. (This is how an AI should differ from "poorly trained" to "elite soldiers") If current shooters were to be improved with such an AI, completely new games would result. Thanks for sticking around and for the great video.
Great video, great explanation. I've seen this game several times from several different content creators and had zero interest in playing it. Now I can say, I'm properly excited. Great marketing. Great work.👍🏻 Salute!
Hahaha I’m glad I could help inform! 🫡🫡🫡
Turned speed down to 0.75x and it made it much easier to absorb. Much love Riloe this video was another good one as per usual.
Yeah it seemed like it was sped up to 1.25x to begin with
looks incredible, this grunt is looking forward to this action. Thinks for the video, great job explaining it. _rltw_ (Salute)
Bro I grew up playing the dead trigger franchise and when I heard they sold their catalogue to Deca it saddened me but to see the same studio developing games like this makes it all worth it
Being based on Roadside picnic is already pretty neat.
I absolutely love the idea of this game and i hope so much that it does well. I just really hope that they are ready for the influx of players that WILL come on release day, and week. I hope that the servers are ready to hold all of the people that will flood to this game.