Stanier cant be replaced by ANY drummer ever. His tight snaredrum + Bogdan's bass was epic. The "Stop'n go" riffs have influenced so many bands. Hamiltons voice is a bit too clean compared to the studio recordings.. The 'Meantime' album is an all time classic!!
that bass is a masterclass in DIRT tone, it's like every tour they played, the bass got more guttural and Stanier's cymbal stands got higher, bless up.
I just saw them open for KoRn a few months ago and they are surprisingly still sounding really good these days, even though Page is now in his younger 60s!
@@LeadMe2TheBliss Saw them yesterday. Heavy as hell!! Page is still killing it. Stanier got out of Helmet, but the cymbals are still getting higher haha
I saw this tour at Nottingham Rock City basement room. No support. Just them in a packed small room - it was fucking phenomenal. By the end Stanier was almost collapsing, a roadie was holding him up. The sweat was dripping off the cieling and walls. They were off the scale. So glad I was there...
That year at Hultsfredsfestivalen was one of the best. RATM the day before was epic. The story is that we, the audience, jumped so much that it showed on the Richterscale. :)
I don't know what Hamilton did to Bogdan & Stanier, but goddamn. I wish they'd forgive him! Or I don't know, bury the hatchet for a reunion tour. I know the songs are mainly all Page's, but um, John Stanier became one of my top 10 favourite drummers of all time when I heard Helmet. The Deftones didn't even exist to me. Helmet was where it was at. And Bogdan & Stanier are so much of Helmet's sound, that I do listen to new Helmet material, but it's just not the same. AND I'M A FAN OF YES!! THEY'VE CHANGED MEMBERS LIKE UNDERWEAR! It just isn't the same band, even with Page being a riff king, a great lyric writer, and its creative force. It's just not the same. THIS WAS GOLD.
Yeah man I've been on a huge helmet kick and I just read a quote that page said.... "They were a good band and they played my songs well but I could have done it without them." Which is insanely disrespectful and dismissive of John and Henry. I have a band myself and I can play guitar, bass, and drums but have chosen the role as drummer and want to be like our boy John here and carry some dudes that want to lay down some heavy riffs and beefy tracks but it sucks when the guitar player really thinks he's that important compared to the band.... it's like man... no. Not even close. Like you said and I agree with, Helmet without John and Henry should be called something else. My little band kind of has a similar theme and rift happening where our guitarist seems to believe that quote as well. Either way
This is the most underrated band of (it's) time....While Butt Butt bands with a ONE song catchy sound make waves for days and years and it was not even real meat like this.... I use to say that this band is called Helmet because you pretty much had to have a helmet on during the concert.... Good God)*#)*%& Watch out!
They even had anthrax's bassist on their line up 2004-2005. He recorded bass for size matters album. edit: he didn't record bass for the album, it was done by chris traynor. but he played bass on the size matters tour.
Yup jon stanier is no doubt probably the best time keeping drummer EVER. Check out his weird brainchild "battles" even his homie mike patton thinks battles is weird shit
I was so fortunate enough to see them during this tour for aftertaste. Cuz I didn't see him during meantime or Betty which is my favorite album by them. This was when helmet was helmet with Henry Bogdan on bass and John stainer on drums. I'm not too sure which rhythm guitar since was with them. But God damn they were good back then. When Betty came out they were my favorite band. I miss Henry Bogdan and stainer but stainer been with tomahawk and now he's with that band 'battles'! Which is some really interesting stuff
Funny, a lot of the Helmet fans I know somehow never really knew about Battles and Stanier's involvement- they assumed he stopped after Tomahawk' first run and an occasional TMOC project. Battles is the shit, even they appear to be down to a duo currently. Many tales abound regarding his cymbal height as it ascended over the years lol.
Sounded like Page Hamilton had a cold or something. The chorus of Unsung was pretty rough. First band I ever saw live, opening for Primus at the Fox in Atlanta
I guess it might be because of not quiet proper technique and loud singing through the whole show + he sometimes slides on the pitch not hitting the right notes due to lack of in-ear monitoring which makes it really difficult to hear what is actually going on with the sound from the band on the stage
Well he doesn't have any in-ear monitoring though he sings the same way all the time :)) It's one of the reasons imho why Helmet never became massively popular - it's painful to listen to their lives. Great energy and shitty vocals. With all respect to Page.
This my favorite lineup, but man they still kick ass. Got kicked out of bar one night in 93 for yelling at a cover band that claimed they could play "any of todays rock". Me and my pals kept yelling "PLAY SOME HELMET".
Bom para caralhouuu!! Uma das melhores bandas do planeta e uma das minhas favoritas!! Pena que nunca veio no Rio de Janeiro!! Bem poderia vir futuramente... .🤘🤘👍👍👏👏👊👊
I’m getting ready to get my cherry popped for the first time seeing them. I’m soooo stoked. Omg!!!!!!! I hope they still sound this good. They sound AMAZING! Their sound tech for this? He’s a God!!!!
I was introduced to Helmet in 1998, my brother loved them and bought me a ticket and i had no idea who they were are how loud they would be,but let me tell you they came out and kicked some ass in a small club in Ft.Worth Tx,i have been a huge fan ever since,but i did make a big mistake,i didn't take earplugs and was deaf for about 3 days 😂
I get what you’re saying, dude. That’s Chris Traynor from Orange 9mm filling in as a live guitarist at that time. Obviously, he’s kinda clueless to that initial post-punk / indie aesthetic of that Peter Mengede-era Helmet.
I had you guys for three concerts this year. Sunstroke- outside Dublin, Hellfest- somewhere in France and in Jersey. The only song this needed was my divorce sing @ExactlyWhatyouwanted Along with this great version of TIC & Birth defect Here's to 2021 and being to be together at such events
oHHHH MAN,... Thanks for bringing back the memories of seeing Hemet play at "the old" 9:30 in Washington DC in the mid-1990's!!! I still say Helmet would aways put on the best live performances of that era!
This was the best line-up of Helmet tbh. And damn I wish I saw this live, being a Swede and living really close to Hultsfred. Too bad I was only 5 at the time lol...
Are there earlier performances on youtube? I’m curious how it sounded back then. But this 2d guitarist is really pleasing. Great energy! And the guitar sound is unbeatable… the balance with all the instruments is perfect!
These guys were freaking great. They got lost in the TOOL but that's hard to argue with, they were beasting as well. But I never forget the roots. This is one we used to grind and they are badass. Let us not forget.
Whoever mixed the sound at this show needs an award
I was thinking th same. Th snare and bass sound lit!! 👍🏽
I’ve seen them three times and the sound was amazing every time! One of the best live bands that you can still see
yes. Rare for 1997. I like that snare sound. you never hear it nowadays, everthing is compressed on albums
Stanier’s snare sound is all stanier. No one pops quite as hard
I agree, that the sound, for a RUclips video is good.
Stanier cant be replaced by ANY drummer ever. His tight snaredrum + Bogdan's bass was epic. The "Stop'n go" riffs have influenced so many bands. Hamiltons voice is a bit too clean compared to the studio recordings.. The 'Meantime' album is an all time classic!!
bogdan and stainer were an excellent pairing. no one could touch stainer. that snare sound is him.
@@jimmyjames8611 A-fuckin-men!!
Facts!
I like Page’s vocals best this era and earlier myself. Nerd cool. Too much growl snarly later on / currently.
@@sidneyrotter5739 he became a vegan 👀
that bass is a masterclass in DIRT tone, it's like every tour they played, the bass got more guttural and Stanier's cymbal stands got higher, bless up.
Love his tone
I just saw them open for KoRn a few months ago and they are surprisingly still sounding really good these days, even though Page is now in his younger 60s!
@@LeadMe2TheBliss Saw them yesterday. Heavy as hell!! Page is still killing it. Stanier got out of Helmet, but the cymbals are still getting higher haha
@@LeadMe2TheBliss😢
I just saw them a few months ago. Up as close to the stage as you are to the device you're reading this on. PAGE HASN'T MISSED A STEP!
The definition of “in the pocket” and “groove”
Aftertaste is a killer album.
Meantime, Betty, Aftertaste... Can't get any better set of 3 albums than that.
Yeah, I think it's my favourite Helmet album. Just a great, smooth listen from front to back and great production as well
It was one of my work albums for years. I framed a lot of houses with aftertaste and Betty cranked .
I love Aftertaste. Stanier said recently he didn't like it as much as Betty or Meantime. Too bad
@@Andrija_12345 that amazes me...his chops on Aftetaste are tasty af
This to me is the perfect drum sound! No fat, just bones.
Perfect analogy!!
That bass sound is pure gold! I love it!
Thank you King Stainer for showing the world a tuned up snare drum.
'Ghost in the Machine' called....it wants to have a word...
The drumming on Birth Defect is just sick!
what a bad ass drummer ...
Tony Valder Indeed.An absolute master.
TIGHT
Been one of my favorites for 25 years now. John Stainer is the man.
@@satevo462 He is so good!!!!
@@bwclark7758 he finds the pocket every single time.
That snare tone is motherfucking perfect. Goddamn Helmet is fucking good.
So many bands were influenced by these guys it's unbelievable
What bands ?
@@rudysz6003 look at Silverchair’s Freakshow album. They were heavily influenced by Helmet
@@rudysz6003 most of the nu metal bands. Start with Korn and Limp Bizkit and just carry on
@@micklee5152 I agree, they are arguably the root source of nu metal 🤔👍 good call
Except Helmet actually rocks. They managed to groove heavy without the whiny lyrics and deplorable attempts at rapping :/
A wall of sound. Unbreakable. Enormous. Precise and rough at the same time. And that drummer, and that bassist.. What a blast!
Whoever picked the set list needs a raise. Every single song is a banger; no fillers or unknown tracks.
Love Helmet. Even til this day at 40 yrs of age. Nothing like listening to some good old metal. John Steiner is god on a standard kit
If he's god and you cant spell his Name right... you prolly just called him dog.
Same here bro. I'm 44 and this Helmet era is still on top of my playlists. John is a beast here.
I'm a drummer and I still purchased an ESP Horizon because of Helmet.
Hey, me too! 🤣
Guitar tones to die for
HELMET was and still is the true alternative
I saw this tour at Nottingham Rock City basement room. No support. Just them in a packed small room - it was fucking phenomenal. By the end Stanier was almost collapsing, a roadie was holding him up. The sweat was dripping off the cieling and walls. They were off the scale. So glad I was there...
He's a sweat machine. Check out Battles' performance at Amoeba
One of my favourite bands. IMO, one the best bands mixing metal and alternative rock.
Love how long John has been using the yellow Tama kit.
RUclipss has best free concerts in the world!!!!
These were the times. Drumming beyond god!
An unmistakable snare by Mr. Strainer. Miss that tight snare sound. Yesss, when HELMET was HELMET.
Such a great groove & tight sound.
That drummer is hyper active, wicked beats ! Wicked sound , that drum kit cymbals !
Stainer is the most influential drummer in rock music….yep, I said it
flat out killing it - HELMET comes to rock.
The drums sound wicked!
Playing the hi-hat from behind his shoulder and smashing up a simple 5 kit like a boss.
Tic is one of their best songs! They knocked it out of the park.
These guys sound so much better live than they do on the studio versions.
They don't have some big shot producer hovering around making $500 an hour trying to make him sound like Ozzy Osbourne's band that's why
They actually do which I don't normally say and that's not denigrating their album quality either
@@wokejesus6501 I believe they recorded their 1st album for $500. No joke.
@@onepunchflan3071 I agree. Both are just what they are, nothing more, nothing less
imagine them in 94 they were gods
That year at Hultsfredsfestivalen was one of the best. RATM the day before was epic. The story is that we, the audience, jumped so much that it showed on the Richterscale. :)
I don't know what Hamilton did to Bogdan & Stanier, but goddamn. I wish they'd forgive him! Or I don't know, bury the hatchet for a reunion tour. I know the songs are mainly all Page's, but um, John Stanier became one of my top 10 favourite drummers of all time when I heard Helmet. The Deftones didn't even exist to me. Helmet was where it was at.
And Bogdan & Stanier are so much of Helmet's sound, that I do listen to new Helmet material, but it's just not the same. AND I'M A FAN OF YES!! THEY'VE CHANGED MEMBERS LIKE UNDERWEAR! It just isn't the same band, even with Page being a riff king, a great lyric writer, and its creative force. It's just not the same.
THIS WAS GOLD.
Yeah man I've been on a huge helmet kick and I just read a quote that page said.... "They were a good band and they played my songs well but I could have done it without them." Which is insanely disrespectful and dismissive of John and Henry. I have a band myself and I can play guitar, bass, and drums but have chosen the role as drummer and want to be like our boy John here and carry some dudes that want to lay down some heavy riffs and beefy tracks but it sucks when the guitar player really thinks he's that important compared to the band.... it's like man... no. Not even close. Like you said and I agree with, Helmet without John and Henry should be called something else. My little band kind of has a similar theme and rift happening where our guitarist seems to believe that quote as well. Either way
@@DISCIPLESOFCHRIST88 I just found out Hamilton dated Winona Ryder!!! I had no idea that happened. Maybe that's why Bogdan & Stanier hate him.
@DrTomoculus yeah man I saw that too..... was impressed to see Pagey able to pull off some A-lister ass. He is 6ft5, though, so that definitely helps
This is the most underrated band of (it's) time....While Butt Butt bands with a ONE song catchy sound make waves for days and years and it was not even real meat like this....
I use to say that this band is called Helmet because you pretty much had to have a helmet on during the concert.... Good God)*#)*%& Watch out!
Great gig! I was there, front row.
Lucky bastard
Lucky. Must have been amazing.
I seen them in London ontario in a small bar. Was by far the best band I even seen in tight quarters
Same here.Was up front.Hultsfred was such an awesome festival🤘🏾
lol what front row?
I caught this tour also..I was 17....man I seen some great bands when I was young.
This is the metal band that impressed Anthrax.
They even had anthrax's bassist on their line up 2004-2005. He recorded bass for size matters album.
edit: he didn't record bass for the album, it was done by chris traynor. but he played bass on the size matters tour.
That drummer is on fire!!! 🥁🔥😁🤘
Dear God, it’s like being in the center of the largest sun
Great gig, would love to have seen Helmet back then in this line-up but did see them in 2010 and even then they were really good.
Brutal- Helmet in the 90's was my little secret. Nobody got them
Who?? Helmet? Hell yeah!!!
Love this band!!!!!
Los veré en casi un mes más por primera vez tocando solos en chile 🇨🇱. No saben la emoción que tengo helmet por siempreeee
Stanier is a machine
I was there.
Yup jon stanier is no doubt probably the best time keeping drummer EVER. Check out his weird brainchild "battles" even his homie mike patton thinks battles is weird shit
Mike saying that says everything
@@onepunchflan3071 well yeah ...he's the best
This is momentousness.
Just like your face.
Che gran gruppo
Unsung made my ears hurt. Jesus...
because he sings off the notes?
There should be a Helmet cover band called, "The Strap It On's"
I was so fortunate enough to see them during this tour for aftertaste. Cuz I didn't see him during meantime or Betty which is my favorite album by them. This was when helmet was helmet with Henry Bogdan on bass and John stainer on drums. I'm not too sure which rhythm guitar since was with them. But God damn they were good back then. When Betty came out they were my favorite band. I miss Henry Bogdan and stainer but stainer been with tomahawk and now he's with that band 'battles'! Which is some really interesting stuff
minerva sst Pretty sure this is Chris Traynor on rhythm
Stanier was about to take off like a rocket.
We were just 10 years away from Mirrored
Funny, a lot of the Helmet fans I know somehow never really knew about Battles and Stanier's involvement- they assumed he stopped after Tomahawk' first run and an occasional TMOC project. Battles is the shit, even they appear to be down to a duo currently. Many tales abound regarding his cymbal height as it ascended over the years lol.
Yep Battles is John and Ian. Kinda always was tho lol
STANIER
cant believe theres helmet fans beside myself who are able not to misspell his name. thanks.
My favorite thing about this is the drummer having a freaking BALL!
I Fucking love Helmet
as always... me too
Im with ya
I kinda prefer the vocals clean and in the raw, as opposed to the studio versions,especially on milquetoast.
I just watched both and concur
Same here.
Sounded like Page Hamilton had a cold or something. The chorus of Unsung was pretty rough. First band I ever saw live, opening for Primus at the Fox in Atlanta
I guess it might be because of not quiet proper technique and loud singing through the whole show + he sometimes slides on the pitch not hitting the right notes due to lack of in-ear monitoring which makes it really difficult to hear what is actually going on with the sound from the band on the stage
August of 95' right? Tales from the Punchbowl tour. I was 15 or 16 & got back stage at that show. I'll never forget it.
Page sings like he's deaf
Couldn't hold a tune in a bag. Don't matter though! Always killer.
Well he doesn't have any in-ear monitoring though he sings the same way all the time :)) It's one of the reasons imho why Helmet never became massively popular - it's painful to listen to their lives. Great energy and shitty vocals. With all respect to Page.
He's standing in front of two totally cranked 100W heads, probably can't hear anything but TONE!
@@furkinfolk god I could only imagine that!!
“Unsung” should’ve been unsung. It was painful to listen to. 😬
When HELMET was HELMET.
Even with the line up changes that they already had by that times? I think Helmet still been great to this days.
This my favorite lineup, but man they still kick ass. Got kicked out of bar one night in 93 for yelling at a cover band that claimed they could play "any of todays rock". Me and my pals kept yelling "PLAY SOME HELMET".
They are still helmet jackass.
angry ranger did they play any helmet songs ? 😂
Dirty Dave 😂😂😂😂
Saw Helmet in the 90s, Betty tour, in Glasgow, could have shaved myself with the sound it was that sharp and loud as fvck
23:08 O PAGE DEIXOU O FESTIVAL LOUCO COM 3 PALAVRAS!!!!
Stanier's changing his style during this era to the "dance" style he uses in Battles with the swishing hi-hats and the footwork. Super fucking groove
daaaamn they sound fuc*ing good
Bom para caralhouuu!! Uma das melhores bandas do planeta e uma das minhas favoritas!! Pena que nunca veio no Rio de Janeiro!! Bem poderia vir futuramente...
.🤘🤘👍👍👏👏👊👊
Sem dúvida essa banda tem um SOM de respeito pra mim ela podia ter tido mais visibilidade no cenário musical HELMET é do CARALHOU !!! 🤟🤟🔝🔝👊👊🇧🇷🇧🇷🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is NICE. I will watch this many times.
I watch it once a day. Sometimes 2x
Aftertaste is underrated! I think it gets over shadowed by Betty and Meantime ( as maybe it should). But still a great album
I’m getting ready to get my cherry popped for the first time seeing them. I’m soooo stoked. Omg!!!!!!! I hope they still sound this good. They sound AMAZING! Their sound tech for this? He’s a God!!!!
Electric performance and sound!
That bass is THICC
that snare sound, holy shit. Still amazed decades after...
Epic set! I saw Helmet with Jesus Lizard opening up and few bands can hold up after them but Helmet did, and killed it to! Meantime tour.
I was introduced to Helmet in 1998, my brother loved them and bought me a ticket and i had no idea who they were are how loud they would be,but let me tell you they came out and kicked some ass in a small club in Ft.Worth Tx,i have been a huge fan ever since,but i did make a big mistake,i didn't take earplugs and was deaf for about 3 days 😂
They split up at the end of 1997 so 98 dusn't sound right
BAND FOUL: No Shorts. First violation, give each member the equivalent of your buyout.
so im not the only one who thinks shorts look bad on performers?
In the 90s, we wore shorts...often with boots.
I get what you’re saying, dude. That’s Chris Traynor from Orange 9mm filling in as a live guitarist at that time. Obviously, he’s kinda clueless to that initial post-punk / indie aesthetic of that Peter Mengede-era Helmet.
Man I miss those Great Bands!!
Helmet乐队的音乐是最完美的！鼓手的节奏让人每个细胞都跳跃！
BEAUTIFUL remaster!
Boyz put in there work back then hard, crisp and steady for hours good fucken shit
Good tight sounding band. Always heard of them back in the day just never had the opportunity to listen to them
I remember back in 1993 I listened this together with my skater friends, I just became a teenager, man it was cool.
helmet 1997 remastered wow talk bout rocking I love page h
I had you guys for three concerts this year. Sunstroke- outside Dublin, Hellfest- somewhere in France and in Jersey.
The only song this needed was my divorce sing @ExactlyWhatyouwanted
Along with this great version of TIC & Birth defect
Here's to 2021 and being to be together at such events
Divorce song 🤣like it
perfect drummer. best riffsss
Epic set, Epic recording, Helmet rules!
oHHHH MAN,... Thanks for bringing back the memories of seeing Hemet play at "the old" 9:30 in Washington DC in the mid-1990's!!! I still say Helmet would aways put on the best live performances of that era!
If Jesus was a guitar tone, ffs.
Everyone know Jesus plays bass
If god was a snare drum tone
First time to really listen to them and i have to say goddamn they kick ass
I saw them during this tour at Tipitina's in New Orleans
Niceeee, love Tipitinas, one of the best venues in the world!
Page for president
Listen to that goddam snare my friends. Tjis is how you tune it and hit it. Nowadays they all sound like goddamn pillows.
This was the best line-up of Helmet tbh. And damn I wish I saw this live, being a Swede and living really close to Hultsfred. Too bad I was only 5 at the time lol...
best line-up without Mengede?
Are there earlier performances on youtube? I’m curious how it sounded back then. But this 2d guitarist is really pleasing. Great energy! And the guitar sound is unbeatable… the balance with all the instruments is perfect!
Jonh Stanier 🥁🔥🔥🔥🔥
um yeah birth defect followed with tic the sound of every song awesome beyond words
so underrated. love this band!!!!!
These guys were freaking great. They got lost in the TOOL but that's hard to argue with, they were beasting as well. But I never forget the roots. This is one we used to grind and they are badass. Let us not forget.
Como suenan la ptm
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
HELMET RULES WHAT A BAND !!!!!
4 Great Albums & Very Good B-Side compilation...Strap it On, Meantime, Betty, Aftertaste & Born Annoying...plenty to love!
Awesome thanks Almighty clock manager for cutting song off before best part
One hell of an amazing band.
Los estamos esperando en Costa Rica 🇨🇷🎙️🔥🎵🇨🇷🎙️🔥
Quality stuff!
thanks so much for uploading this!
I hope these band members, are still alive & not dead. 😌👀🙏🙏🙏