Very valuable speech! My self-management skills are very poor. Obviously I am not ready to meet the self-management group. The essence of self-management ability is self-consciousness, positiveness, and self-improvement. Lectures that benefit a lot.
truly amazing, and i still can't understand why not all organizations are working in this way in 2015. we are still in the dark middle ages of top-down command control style militant corporatism.
Such an interesting concept with many benefits. But seriously, how does such an organisation handle hiring and firing? What better way to take down an organisation than to get hired before using autonomy to undermine the operation. Really keen to know how that risk/threat is handled. It might not have ever been an issue for this company, but it eventually would if all companies sought to adopt this flat, self-management model.
I have met Patrick and I remember he said that yech person can decide to hire a new colleague and can get support of other people in the company that have knowledge about hiring staff. About firing, they have a process they can use when there is a conflict. Conflicts can be solved at different stages, first with the help och peers and then in another forum. DOn't remomeber the details but they have a solution of firing people.
No they can be fired just not by one person, it’s done by committee of other colleagues who have a direct working relationship with underachieving individual, if one person isn’t doing what is required to achieve success then it dominoes onto other colleagues so you best believe they will speak up about it, lazy people won’t last long when putting burden on others. I have first hand knowledge about this having work at Morning Star for 30 years.
Very valuable speech! My self-management skills are very poor. Obviously I am not ready to meet the self-management group. The essence of self-management ability is self-consciousness, positiveness, and self-improvement. Lectures that benefit a lot.
truly amazing, and i still can't understand why not all organizations are working in this way in 2015. we are still in the dark middle ages of top-down command control style militant corporatism.
Awesome the foundations of self management and holacracy
anybody else watching this for bob myers
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How long is this paper supposed to be because i don't see us writing much about this video'
Amazing. Love it.
Such an interesting concept with many benefits. But seriously, how does such an organisation handle hiring and firing? What better way to take down an organisation than to get hired before using autonomy to undermine the operation. Really keen to know how that risk/threat is handled. It might not have ever been an issue for this company, but it eventually would if all companies sought to adopt this flat, self-management model.
I have met Patrick and I remember he said that yech person can decide to hire a new colleague and can get support of other people in the company that have knowledge about hiring staff.
About firing, they have a process they can use when there is a conflict. Conflicts can be solved at different stages, first with the help och peers and then in another forum. DOn't remomeber the details but they have a solution of firing people.
Inspirational
this is good, very good
How do self-managed organizations which don't have managers and leaders remunerate its employees? Do they all get paid equally?
They aren't paid equally. They are still paid according to the tasks they do, so one person may be paid many times what another is.
Bit of a tangent but Morse code DOES travel at the speed of light.
What about the selfish people?
*yawn* ... no communication, no collaboration, but we got 'letters of understanding' woohoo
THis model will attract lazy people who in turn cant be fired. Human nature itself is the main issue with this.
No they can be fired just not by one person, it’s done by committee of other colleagues who have a direct working relationship with underachieving individual, if one person isn’t doing what is required to achieve success then it dominoes onto other colleagues so you best believe they will speak up about it, lazy people won’t last long when putting burden on others.
I have first hand knowledge about this having work at Morning Star for 30 years.
@@jenbill Sounds good, thanks for explaining!