I've been holding out all year since first seeing the Knipex strippers and then resigned myself to the Milwaukee when i realized they had the linesman head and were in the holiday section for $20. But before I put them on my wishlist, I got an alert on my Amazon cart that the Knipex were down to $52 and i somehow had a $55 credit, so i assumed it was a sign and pulled the Amazon trigger. They did not disappoint.
They are the best “All Around” stripper/plier hybrid I’ve ever used. I’ve been saying I was going to get the dipped handle pair when mine gives out, but I’m 2 years in and they still work like new.
Knipex is in my pouch. Milwaukee can charge $20 because they are made in China. Milwaukee needs to keep stepping up and make more of their products in the U.S.A. Edit - The steel that each tool is made of should also be considered.
@@wa-oh8vr I never have yet (that I remember)… but I would think it would. I don’t have any in my garage or I would try it. Maybe someone else can answer with a definite.
Made in Vietnam and assembled in China 🇨🇳 to per the package to be exact (for the Milwaukee pliers) I have them both and they serve their purpose well as pliers and they work great for what they are and money spent.
I been looking at these knipex strippers for a while and my only issue was them not having a dedicated loop hole like some kleins or the crocs. Thanks for pointing out they have a loop hole made in the lineman head! Time to put myself in more debt
Great video. I have always been a Klien guy, however I was frustrated with the strippers from Klien. I started using the Milwaukee and loved them. But I watched a video you did a while back and you talked me into the Knipex strippers. Hands down I like the Knipex a lot better. So, thanks for connecting me with Knipex. I appreciate your time.
You are welcome. I don’t mind paying more for Knipex. I’ve had these about two years and they are still just as good as the day I bought them. I can’t remember any other strippers lasting that long. Appreciate you always taking the time to watch and comment 👍
I have both and really like both. The fact that the knipex can quickly cut the mounting bolts on condensor fan motors earn them a spot in the veto. They would be perfect if they had a crimper and thinner plier tips like the electrical installation pliers.
I do use the Electrical Installation pliers more in electrical… but it’s hard for me to recommend those over the Forged due to the price and features. I don’t understand why they cost more than the Forged Wire Strippers 🤷♂️ If I could only have one pair I’d have to get the Forged… but it’s nice to have both. 👍👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance chrome plating plus VDE testing - they test every VDE tool to 10KV AC before it leave the factory, so they add some cost. I have both, for my use case I like the electrical installation - narrow head is great for fishing wires in tight spaces, as for stripping 1.5 and 2.5 Quadrat (mm^2) most of what I need, if I need more capacity I have better stripper for that. same for crimper I use the knipex twistor.
This is literally a problem that i have too, can’t decide im leaning to the Milwaukee for the crimper that they have but the knipex feels way more solid and the “guide hole” for wire stripping is amazing and i can get way better leverage on cuts too
The Milwaukees “new” for the price are a good deal. How long they last, I’m not sure. I have used the Knipex going on two years and have cut loads of MC with the cutter and stripped who knows how much wire… and they still perform great. So even though they are $60, I’ve got more use out of them than any other pair I’ve bought… other than my Knipex Installation pliers, and they are the same. I don’t crimp stuff that often, so I didn’t have that pulling me in Milwaukees direction. They are both good if they cover what you do, but I do feel like the Knipex is better. The latch, though it’s a small thing… on the Milwaukee would drive me nuts.
If you get the Milwaukees just be warned the cutting shears will deform quick from only cutting copper. Every pair I’ve ever seen had big indents in the shear portion from only cutting copper. They’re made in china so probably a result of cheap steel/tempering process. South wire makes a pretty decent pair as well for $25-30 on Amazon but they have the same issue (shears deform easily) I suspect all the cheap hybrid pliers will have this issue, for under $30 they can’t really produce quality forged cutting shears for the price and still make a profit so they “cut corners” with cheaper steel or processes.
Have the Milwaukees and been wanting to pull the trigger on those Knipex. Only reason i havent pulled the trigger is the 10 stranded, i use that quite often
Great comparison video! A few weeks ago I gouged the cutters of my Knipex forged strippers on a solid shiny steel wire 18-20 gauge. Lesson learned these are for cutting electrical wire.
👍👍 good to know. I was curious what cutting through the MC cable would do to them over time, but I’ve cut a bunch of it with no problems. Note to self though on the steel wire 😂
It was probably just something I was doing. I don’t remember it being an issue. These are the only spring loaded pliers I use, so I might be helping them open be muscle memory.
Been using the Milwaukee's for well over a year, as an electrician. Hard to beat the value with them when they are on sale. Would love to try the Knipex though.
A big point is also that Knipex engineers their long nose pliers so that you can actually use the needle nose and twist on something with a lot of force before getting any deformation/misalignment of the tips. Making them last through tougher jobs.
👍👍 I have used mine a bunch over the last couple years and they still perform just like I bought them. If you have to buy 4 pairs of $20 pliers in the time 1 pair of $60 pliers last… then they aren’t expensive.
It’s the wider opening on the cutter that pulled me towards Knipex. Not being able to cut MC is always a big deal to me… if I didn’t use it 90% of the time it wouldn’t bother me as much. These are really good for the price.
I have a set of the electrical installation pliers from Knipex which seem to be quite popular in the UK. This style of stripper with different sized holes is not so popular over here. We tend to utilise automatic strippers that adjust to the cable size or side cutters.
I have those too, and actually use them more often because the two size wires mine strip are what I use 90% of the time. I’ve yet to find a pair of automatic ones I like yet. I’ve tried a couple, but none that work that great. The Knipex aren’t reviewed very well.
@@saucyg6371 Over in the UK they tend to be used more in industrial environments, especially in panel building / production work. I don't see them being used by the installation sparks that much.
@@brianhall9019 I was thinking the same thing. My guess is the Knipex goes in the way it does for a reason.. something tho make the cut be clean and even on a thread. I may still try it for giggles because I likely wont use the screw cutters on these... or just try it on an old pair for curiosity.
Good video again good comparison. Pliers come in so many options and it can be a big search to find the one that works for you. Use the metric installation pliers from knipex myself with the thinner end as I don’t twist wire.
I use those more than I use the Forged Wire Strippers, I just normally recommend the Forged because they are cheaper for some reason… with more features. Those Installation pliers are great.
I really like my Knipex Forged Wire Strippers. I don't mind that they don't have a crimper as I like my Klein crimpers (non-ratcheting kind). The crimper is after the pivot so crimping on a ferrule inside a gang box is easier. The ones with a crimper before the pivot I think are rather awkward to use and can't get into tight spots.
I don’t use a crimper enough that it’s something I mind if it’s missing either. Most of everything I end up crimping is built outside a box, or piece of equipment. Appreciate your thoughts 👍👍
One thing about the Knipex is that they will actually do 18ga solid, they just didn’t have enough room to print it on the plier…😂 But you do loose out on the 8ga.
@@MORGANSMaintenance love your channel! I’m fresh out of hvac/r school and you’ve helped me make a lot of tool buying decisions, so thank you! I’ve slowly been changing out my Milwaukee and harbor freight tools for Knipex. They’re expensive but the quality makes it well worth it!
@@TheCherokeeKidd 👍👍… they last longer for me so far… so the price is just more up front money. I’ve used the same pair of Forged Wire Strippers where I would have at least been on my second pair of something else.
@@MORGANSMaintenance The Weicon 5 Pro claims to auto-adjust to different sized wires, for which they charge like 3X the of price of the Weicon 5. Don't know (yet) if it's worth it. Some RUclipss rate the Weicon higher than the Knipex.
Question: Does the Knipex tool have romex sheath stripping capability for 12-2 and 14-2? The shape of the wire strippers suggests that it might do that, but I have never seen that demonstrated or indicated as a feature.
No it doesn’t, I have seen any Knipex strippers that do that other than one that’s kind of the automatic style. You pull the Romex through it at whatever length you want to remove the sheathing, then you can also strip the wires. I’ve not seen it in person, only videos.
something i learned a long time ago, fixing lights on trailers in sub zero temperatures... it doesn't pay to have cheap electrical tools. The Knipex ones look pretty nice, and at the end of the day your paying for the quality of steel going into the tools. It will be interesting to see how the Milwaukee hold up though.
That’s the big thing to me about Knipex. Yes I paid 3 times as much, but I’m two years in and they still work flawlessly. I can’t remember any other pair that I’ve got two years out of. If they last longer than three pairs of other pliers and work better, it’s really just a long term investment that’s more enjoyable to use.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have a set of snap on ones I’ve been using for the last 10 years or so. Something I have said for a long time, it’s not the cost of the tool, it’s the quality of the steel.
I think for the stripper aspect the knipex are just as good as kleins. I didn’t notice anything above average. But their cutters and bolt cutting system and overall quality is what sets them apart from everyone else. Good strippers, but unless you really have the money or just a want I don’t recommend them when Klein strippers or even the milwaukees do everything the knipex can.
I can do nearly everything with these Milwaukees I can do with the Knipex, I just feel the Knipex perform better on some of their features. I agree, It’s all about what your price range is 👍👍
I bought the knipex and was actually really surprised because I thought the construction as well as the fit and finish was not as nice as the milwaukee's. I am a big fan of knipex so I was definitely surprised to have been disappointed in them.
I love mine. I deal almost in MC Cable exclusively though and the Cutters are the main thing I love. If I mainly did Romex, they wouldn’t be as useful… still great, just not way better than others I’ve used.
I have the Klein version of these and really like those. I bought those Milwuakees for my son and they are nice but I really like the Kleins better. I like the rubber grips on the Kleins much better than the hard textured plastic of the Milwuakees but they are all nice and functions well.
They all get the job done, you just have to find the one that makes it most enjoyable for you. I’ve had many Klein strippers in the past and I made money with them just the same 😂
Whenever I make full electrical installation in a house or a flat, I prefer to use couple of very specialised tools instead of a single universal one. We use Romex-like solid core cables in two sizes 1,5 mm2 (16 AWG) for lights and switches and 2,5 mm2 (14 AWG) for sockets. Smaller or bigger cables are usually stranded. So when I wire a fuse box with 24 fuses I constantly need: strippers that strip outer insulation once without pre-cutting, the same strippers that can strip 3 wires ot once, cutter that makes precise and even cuts, single wire stripper, a pair of needle nose pliers and a Pozidriv/flat screwdriver. I have it all on one side of the belt and after 15 years of using such set I can say it works best for me. I have a similar Knipex pliers, but I hardly ever use them. BTW, those handles on Milwaukee are terrible.
I don’t mind the handles while they are new… but they do wear pretty easy, I remember that on my last pair. I have a different set of tools when I do Romex as well, it’s a lot different than doing the MC Cable. Lots more sheathing to remove. I don’t use it very often. I also have special cutters for the outside of the MC Cable too that I grab when I’m doing a bunch, but I will usually just make do with All In Ones on small jobs. If you set up for a big job it’s worth using all the specific tools for the job for sure 👍
The Milwaukees wear out more quickly (especially the cutting edge) and aren't as comfortable. Used one for years and there's no comparison to the Knipex (which is worth 10x). I also use the Knipex Installation pliers that does only 12/14 (not spring loaded) most of the time as it's quicker to strip when you don't have so many hole sizes on the tool.
I’m the exact same as you. I use the Electrical Installation Pliers more often. I like the size of them, and them not being spring loaded. I do think it’s crazy that those are more expensive than the Forged Wire Strippers though. 🤷♂️
Forged wire stipper was initially developed for the US market, the rest of the world get installation pliers. I just recently acquired that and is it good or what? The best.
@@MORGANSMaintenance residential hvac , crimp ons for a lot of connections in our units and some humidistats, also the 18 gauge stripper is good for stat wires
The alignment of the jaws on mine was a problem and would get caught on the stripper portion, the fugiya version was horrible, napa was much better. Never had an issue with the knipex, even after using it for a while
I have used the Fire out of my Knipex and they are still going strong. I don’t use these Milwaukee ones as often, haven’t had a problem yet… but who knows if I used them the same.
I have various brands.Klein Milwaukee Ideal Greenlee etc.But the Knipex are the one for long distance especially the cutting screws that you don't need to tread. 💪💪💪 That's why they are pricey
This has nothing to do with the video per se but do you know what size metric nut driver fits the nuts that come with a lot of sconce and coachlight light fixtures these days. It's close to a 6 - 32 but metric and I have a hard time finding anyone that wants to even talk about it. Thx.
I'm an electrician for over 35 years now. I've never been a fan of Klein wire strippers. Their linesman pliers are great. Especially the 2000 series. But I just never liked their wire strippers. My go to wire strippers are made by Ideal Industries. The Super T stripper handles the sizes I need to strip most often, and they cut screws and make loops real easy, and they seem to last. They also just feel real good in my hand and after trying many other types, sizes and brands, I always go back to my Ideal Super T strippers. I own the Milwaukee and while it's not a bad tool, I just don't like it for all day everyday use when stripping wire. I own lots of other Knipex tools, but I don't own that set of strippers. I might give them a try, but because they're also much larger than my Ideal strippers, I doubt I'd start using them as an everyday wire stripper instead of my Ideal set. But who knows. I could find that I like them so much that they replace my Ideal set. I guess I'll see after giving them a try. Thanks for the great video.
I’ve used many sets of Kleins in the past also. They all work, but not in an effortless way if that makes sense. Most strippers I’ve used strip fine, it’s always the cutters that make the difference for me… and the little things like the latch. I really like the forged and the Electrical Installation Pliers from Knipex. They only strip 12 & 14 though…. And are more expensive. They are slimmer profile and a little smaller. I use them when 12 & 14 are all I’m doing. I haven’t tried many Ideal tools, but that’s cause I rarely go to Lowe’s who carries them in my area, and the main Electrical Supplier I go to mostly has Klein too. I might have to check out the Super T 👍
I would rather purchase Tools of American or German manufacture than of Chinese or Taiwanese manufacture . Removed the nose plier from my Knipex brand to make it less cumbersome working on Class 8 truck wiring . Very well done review !
I've got both. They are both good tools but completely different. That one is a nice and more precise tool for installation and low-volt work. The High leverage strippers are better for rough in and commercial work.
Does the Knipex mess up the threads at all with cutting screws? Seems to me the threading into the Milwaukee is tedious but it ensures no thread damage. Thoughts?
I have cut many different screws with mine. Electrical & Cabinet knobs… never had any issues with them not working (yet anyways, I may have just jinxed myself 😂)
It’s just a personal preference. I like thinner handles because I just can “feel” the tool more. The other handles are good… it’s just something I prefer. I know people who prefer the comfort grip.
I've had a pair of Klein similar to those (i don't think they were those). They are good as well, but the cutter didn't open up as wide... maybe those do.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I agree. Also to my surprise I got some mini pliers wrenches and cobras via my wife who has listened to me talk about how much I would like some, so 2024 will be an experience with new mini wrenches and an awesome set of wire cutters. Christmas was nice this year lol.
@turtelz217 That’s nice… my wife doesn’t attempt to buy me tools.. she knows I’m picky and doesn’t listen enough to remember what I have and don’t have.
I've gone down the stripper rabbit hole. Did I just type that? Mostly to find the holy grail of automatic strippers. I have a couple pair of the expensive Knipex which were a disappointment. I gave up and bought the Knipex forged. I have never used a better stripper. They are great. Still thinking about trying the Klein autos though. The grip on the Milwaukee look like Engineer/Vamplier style. You messed up my Xmas too. I gave my wife a few links on your favorite tools which she bought. On accident UPS came and I opened the Knipex auto adjust pliers as it didn't have a name just our address. Anywho I bought a really expensive Onyx/Quartz centerpiece for our table. She insisted we split it as a Xmas gift to each other. Now she's holding the tools hostage for my birthday. lol Have to wait until May now.
You just have to order her something else and do a trade 😂 That’s why I compared these to the Knipex. They are similar in size, but to me the Forged Wire Strippers have set the standard. Something has to overthrow it to take the crown. Not that the Milwaukee’s aren’t good (especially for the price), they just didn’t overtake the best in my opinion. I’m a May birthday as well… all greatness was born in May 👍
I had to get rid of it all. I donated a lot of it to a couple Local Non-Profits that have re-sell stores to help fund what they do. I put some on Facebook and gave away locally, I recycled whatever metal was left over, some went in a dumpster.... And I have some in my Barn 😂😂 I was able to find a home for a lot of it though.
My Doyle Multi-Electrical, Works pretty darn good. And if I screw it up, got another one no hassle. Plus...No annoying latches, no annoying spring. The Doyle's supposedly are Apex which is a Milwaukee Tool Manufacturing company supposedly. However, getting to Home Depot/Knipex here where I live for tools is problematic and dangerous. Theft and looting here is very common, so buying new tools all the time is not feesible. So I use Harbour Freight for some of that stuff. STL : The Gateway to Hell! 🔥🌪️💧🚬👹🥃🚗 If them devils dont get ya, the weather sure will...
@@MORGANSMaintenance Loose lips, sink ships... Just warranty them, no one ever asks, I don't say anything @ Hassle free warranty. There are no latches, on the Doyle's....
@@MORGANSMaintenance I do emergency response and the Doyle's have no annoying latches. I'm using Harbour Freight Tools. Because we cant obtain the high dollar stuff right now. And it's got a few other, outer wire cable cutters that I use dozens of times a week A Wiseman once said ... Use what you got, and hope like hell it works. And no doofus kills you or steals your tools in the process and tries to sell yer booty for cigarettes, rum and that plantation white.
The Knipex is a lot better. Strips with no problem. The cutters are super sharp, will cut through bx like butter. Just insert the fastener in and cut, no need to screw in.
I feel that way also. The Milwaukees are good for the price, it just depends on what you do and your budget. I can get the job done with either, one is just a better experience.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I love the shearing cut ability , doesn’t jank up sensitive / fancy cables ! I’ve used them a lot on Senstar fence sensor cables , which need a clean shearing cut !
@@MORGANSMaintenance 90% of the time the Knipex offering Superceds my Lineman pliers , I can easily twist 3-5 14 AWG solid wires . The bolt / screw shearing is also superb ! My lineman’s are now pretty much a Badge of Office , or a Bar fight main battle weapon ( good for pain compliance holds ) !
👍👍… I’ve used them before and they are good, but they didn’t last as long before getting dull. So if you buy multiple cheap pairs in the time frame you use one more expensive pair… I’d rather get the one that works better. I always say, you can get the job done with all sorts of tools… I now look for the tool that makes it more enjoyable.
Those Milwaukee are straight up made in china garbage. I have witness several coworkers (4) buy the exact same ones you have in this video, every one of them ended up with horribly deformed cutting shears from only cutting copper wires. I suspect this because they’re made in china with inferior steel/ process (reason they’re only $20). Knipex I can’t comment on as I haven’t had personal experience with them. They’re definitely overpriced for $60
@@AlwaysBeSmart674 the Milwaukees stay in my home bag so they get used very little. I’ve used a pair of Knipex for almost two years now and they still perform like new. After using them I’d pay $100 for them since I use MC cable mostly. It’s the only pair of strippers I’ve used that fit around it and cut it super easy
I've been holding out all year since first seeing the Knipex strippers and then resigned myself to the Milwaukee when i realized they had the linesman head and were in the holiday section for $20. But before I put them on my wishlist, I got an alert on my Amazon cart that the Knipex were down to $52 and i somehow had a $55 credit, so i assumed it was a sign and pulled the Amazon trigger. They did not disappoint.
They are the best “All Around” stripper/plier hybrid I’ve ever used. I’ve been saying I was going to get the dipped handle pair when mine gives out, but I’m 2 years in and they still work like new.
Knipex is in my pouch. Milwaukee can charge $20 because they are made in China. Milwaukee needs to keep stepping up and make more of their products in the U.S.A.
Edit - The steel that each tool is made of should also be considered.
Knipex is staying in mine as well 👍👍
Can you cut 10/2 MC cable with knioex?
@@wa-oh8vr I never have yet (that I remember)… but I would think it would. I don’t have any in my garage or I would try it.
Maybe someone else can answer with a definite.
@@MORGANSMaintenance alrighty, thanks.
Made in Vietnam and assembled in China 🇨🇳 to per the package to be exact (for the Milwaukee pliers) I have them both and they serve their purpose well as pliers and they work great for what they are and money spent.
I been looking at these knipex strippers for a while and my only issue was them not having a dedicated loop hole like some kleins or the crocs. Thanks for pointing out they have a loop hole made in the lineman head! Time to put myself in more debt
You are welcome 😂
I actually prefer making loops on the Knipex as well. They are great strippers
I've been using the Milwaukee strippers in the video for about a year now. I'm very pleased with them.
They are pretty good for the price. Good to know you’ve got a year out of them 👍👍
Somwething worthy of a mention for the milwaukee is a built in wire terminal crimper too@MORGANSMaintenance
Great video. I have always been a Klien guy, however I was frustrated with the strippers from Klien. I started using the Milwaukee and loved them. But I watched a video you did a while back and you talked me into the Knipex strippers. Hands down I like the Knipex a lot better.
So, thanks for connecting me with Knipex. I appreciate your time.
You are welcome. I don’t mind paying more for Knipex. I’ve had these about two years and they are still just as good as the day I bought them. I can’t remember any other strippers lasting that long.
Appreciate you always taking the time to watch and comment 👍
I bought my Forged wire strippers on Amazon as well for $52.00. They are the best wire strippers I have ever owned. A great video Brother.
@@paulmarsdensr1095 I agree, they are great and mine are still stripping well after miles of wire. 👍
I have both and really like both. The fact that the knipex can quickly cut the mounting bolts on condensor fan motors earn them a spot in the veto. They would be perfect if they had a crimper and thinner plier tips like the electrical installation pliers.
I do use the Electrical Installation pliers more in electrical… but it’s hard for me to recommend those over the Forged due to the price and features. I don’t understand why they cost more than the Forged Wire Strippers 🤷♂️
If I could only have one pair I’d have to get the Forged… but it’s nice to have both.
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@@MORGANSMaintenance chrome plating plus VDE testing - they test every VDE tool to 10KV AC before it leave the factory, so they add some cost. I have both, for my use case I like the electrical installation - narrow head is great for fishing wires in tight spaces, as for stripping 1.5 and 2.5 Quadrat (mm^2) most of what I need, if I need more capacity I have better stripper for that. same for crimper I use the knipex twistor.
@@eliadbu 👍👍
I don’t have the insulated or chrome of either set… I’m hoping they come out with the Forged Wire strippers in insulated here soon
This is literally a problem that i have too, can’t decide im leaning to the Milwaukee for the crimper that they have but the knipex feels way more solid and the “guide hole” for wire stripping is amazing and i can get way better leverage on cuts too
The Milwaukees “new” for the price are a good deal. How long they last, I’m not sure.
I have used the Knipex going on two years and have cut loads of MC with the cutter and stripped who knows how much wire… and they still perform great.
So even though they are $60, I’ve got more use out of them than any other pair I’ve bought… other than my Knipex Installation pliers, and they are the same.
I don’t crimp stuff that often, so I didn’t have that pulling me in Milwaukees direction.
They are both good if they cover what you do, but I do feel like the Knipex is better. The latch, though it’s a small thing… on the Milwaukee would drive me nuts.
If you get the Milwaukees just be warned the cutting shears will deform quick from only cutting copper. Every pair I’ve ever seen had big indents in the shear portion from only cutting copper. They’re made in china so probably a result of cheap steel/tempering process. South wire makes a pretty decent pair as well for $25-30 on Amazon but they have the same issue (shears deform easily) I suspect all the cheap hybrid pliers will have this issue, for under $30 they can’t really produce quality forged cutting shears for the price and still make a profit so they “cut corners” with cheaper steel or processes.
Have the Milwaukees and been wanting to pull the trigger on those Knipex. Only reason i havent pulled the trigger is the 10 stranded, i use that quite often
@@tavojr yeah many people have made the same comment over several videos 👍
Great comparison video! A few weeks ago I gouged the cutters of my Knipex forged strippers on a solid shiny steel wire 18-20 gauge. Lesson learned these are for cutting electrical wire.
👍👍 good to know. I was curious what cutting through the MC cable would do to them over time, but I’ve cut a bunch of it with no problems.
Note to self though on the steel wire 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenanceI've had mine since they first came out in 21 as well and have had zero issues slicing through MC since then.
When cutting the romex I noticed that you had to help them back open somewhat, it seemed as if they where hanging up.
It was probably just something I was doing. I don’t remember it being an issue. These are the only spring loaded pliers I use, so I might be helping them open be muscle memory.
Ones good and one is fantastic. Can’t go wrong either way
True words 👍
4:36 Simple: Remove the spring. On my Milwaukee, I removed the spring and lock. Remember: We also have to invent
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Been using the Milwaukee's for well over a year, as an electrician. Hard to beat the value with them when they are on sale. Would love to try the Knipex though.
Yeah, they are really good for the price… if I did Romex all the time, I’d be good with them. The cutters on the Knipex are great for MC.
A big point is also that Knipex engineers their long nose pliers so that you can actually use the needle nose and twist on something with a lot of force before getting any deformation/misalignment of the tips. Making them last through tougher jobs.
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I have used mine a bunch over the last couple years and they still perform just like I bought them.
If you have to buy 4 pairs of $20 pliers in the time 1 pair of $60 pliers last… then they aren’t expensive.
I have the smaller version and have had no issues, I will be getting the new larger one for Christmas.
It’s the wider opening on the cutter that pulled me towards Knipex. Not being able to cut MC is always a big deal to me… if I didn’t use it 90% of the time it wouldn’t bother me as much.
These are really good for the price.
I have Knipex and Klein sidecutters. I also have the Milwaukee’s. For the price the Milwaukee are very hard to beat.
@@cerealkiller4248 you have the regular or the new made in the USA ones?
I have a set of the electrical installation pliers from Knipex which seem to be quite popular in the UK. This style of stripper with different sized holes is not so popular over here. We tend to utilise automatic strippers that adjust to the cable size or side cutters.
I have those too, and actually use them more often because the two size wires mine strip are what I use 90% of the time.
I’ve yet to find a pair of automatic ones I like yet. I’ve tried a couple, but none that work that great. The Knipex aren’t reviewed very well.
What do you do? I’ve honestly never seen anyone using automatics ever
@@saucyg6371 Over in the UK they tend to be used more in industrial environments, especially in panel building / production work. I don't see them being used by the installation sparks that much.
10:52 would it be possible to just drill out the threads on the Milwaukee pliers so they could cut just like the knipex?
I’m not sure, possibly. I know the Knipex go in at an angle… I’m not sure if that’s an engineering reason, or if it just is. I may try it though 😂
My fear with drilling the threads out would be an alignment issue and your remaining threads coming out crooked and the nut not threading properly.
@@brianhall9019 I was thinking the same thing. My guess is the Knipex goes in the way it does for a reason.. something tho make the cut be clean and even on a thread.
I may still try it for giggles because I likely wont use the screw cutters on these... or just try it on an old pair for curiosity.
Good video again good comparison. Pliers come in so many options and it can be a big search to find the one that works for you. Use the metric installation pliers from knipex myself with the thinner end as I don’t twist wire.
I use those more than I use the Forged Wire Strippers, I just normally recommend the Forged because they are cheaper for some reason… with more features.
Those Installation pliers are great.
@@MORGANSMaintenance yea I understand that point. Again good content. And I would like to wish you and yours a wonderful Christmas.
@robholland5925 Merry Christmas to you too my friend 👍👍
I really like my Knipex Forged Wire Strippers. I don't mind that they don't have a crimper as I like my Klein crimpers (non-ratcheting kind). The crimper is after the pivot so crimping on a ferrule inside a gang box is easier. The ones with a crimper before the pivot I think are rather awkward to use and can't get into tight spots.
I don’t use a crimper enough that it’s something I mind if it’s missing either. Most of everything I end up crimping is built outside a box, or piece of equipment.
Appreciate your thoughts 👍👍
One thing about the Knipex is that they will actually do 18ga solid, they just didn’t have enough room to print it on the plier…😂 But you do loose out on the 8ga.
Good catch... I rarely use small wire and hadn't paid attention to the spaces 👍👍
That's great to know. Thank you!
Liked the Milwaukee until the cutters edge broke cutting a single wire?! Have Knipex now and I highly recommend them
I’m a Knipex Forged Wire Stripper believer 👍👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance love your channel! I’m fresh out of hvac/r school and you’ve helped me make a lot of tool buying decisions, so thank you!
I’ve slowly been changing out my Milwaukee and harbor freight tools for Knipex. They’re expensive but the quality makes it well worth it!
@@TheCherokeeKidd 👍👍… they last longer for me so far… so the price is just more up front money.
I’ve used the same pair of Forged Wire Strippers where I would have at least been on my second pair of something else.
I plan to order the Knipex. Hope they add 10 stranded on a future version.
@@Metal_seer it would be nice… I absolutely love mine though.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I just got a Weicon 5 Pro pistol style wire stripper, so I don't expect to stripping wires with pliers much.
@@Metal_seer I haven’t found the right one of that type yet. I will check that one out
@@MORGANSMaintenance The Weicon 5 Pro claims to auto-adjust to different sized wires, for which they charge like 3X the of price of the Weicon 5. Don't know (yet) if it's worth it. Some RUclipss rate the Weicon higher than the Knipex.
@@Metal_seer 👍
Question: Does the Knipex tool have romex sheath stripping capability for 12-2 and 14-2? The shape of the wire strippers suggests that it might do that, but I have never seen that demonstrated or indicated as a feature.
No it doesn’t, I have seen any Knipex strippers that do that other than one that’s kind of the automatic style. You pull the Romex through it at whatever length you want to remove the sheathing, then you can also strip the wires.
I’ve not seen it in person, only videos.
I think the reason Knipex doesn’t have that feature is that Romex isn’t used in Europe to my knowledge.
@@brianhall9019 makes sense
something i learned a long time ago, fixing lights on trailers in sub zero temperatures... it doesn't pay to have cheap electrical tools. The Knipex ones look pretty nice, and at the end of the day your paying for the quality of steel going into the tools. It will be interesting to see how the Milwaukee hold up though.
That’s the big thing to me about Knipex. Yes I paid 3 times as much, but I’m two years in and they still work flawlessly. I can’t remember any other pair that I’ve got two years out of.
If they last longer than three pairs of other pliers and work better, it’s really just a long term investment that’s more enjoyable to use.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have a set of snap on ones I’ve been using for the last 10 years or so. Something I have said for a long time, it’s not the cost of the tool, it’s the quality of the steel.
@JeffLMisc I just bought my very first Snap-On tool recently. It was my Christmas present to myself.
You never go wrong with quality tools. 👍
I think for the stripper aspect the knipex are just as good as kleins. I didn’t notice anything above average. But their cutters and bolt cutting system and overall quality is what sets them apart from everyone else. Good strippers, but unless you really have the money or just a want I don’t recommend them when Klein strippers or even the milwaukees do everything the knipex can.
I can do nearly everything with these Milwaukees I can do with the Knipex, I just feel the Knipex perform better on some of their features.
I agree, It’s all about what your price range is 👍👍
i love my knipex
I bought the knipex and was actually really surprised because I thought the construction as well as the fit and finish was not as nice as the milwaukee's. I am a big fan of knipex so I was definitely surprised to have been disappointed in them.
I love mine. I deal almost in MC Cable exclusively though and the Cutters are the main thing I love. If I mainly did Romex, they wouldn’t be as useful… still great, just not way better than others I’ve used.
I have the Klein version of these and really like those. I bought those Milwuakees for my son and they are nice but I really like the Kleins better. I like the rubber grips on the Kleins much better than the hard textured plastic of the Milwuakees but they are all nice and functions well.
They all get the job done, you just have to find the one that makes it most enjoyable for you.
I’ve had many Klein strippers in the past and I made money with them just the same 😂
Whenever I make full electrical installation in a house or a flat, I prefer to use couple of very specialised tools instead of a single universal one. We use Romex-like solid core cables in two sizes 1,5 mm2 (16 AWG) for lights and switches and 2,5 mm2 (14 AWG) for sockets. Smaller or bigger cables are usually stranded.
So when I wire a fuse box with 24 fuses I constantly need: strippers that strip outer insulation once without pre-cutting, the same strippers that can strip 3 wires ot once, cutter that makes precise and even cuts, single wire stripper, a pair of needle nose pliers and a Pozidriv/flat screwdriver. I have it all on one side of the belt and after 15 years of using such set I can say it works best for me.
I have a similar Knipex pliers, but I hardly ever use them.
BTW, those handles on Milwaukee are terrible.
I don’t mind the handles while they are new… but they do wear pretty easy, I remember that on my last pair.
I have a different set of tools when I do Romex as well, it’s a lot different than doing the MC Cable. Lots more sheathing to remove. I don’t use it very often.
I also have special cutters for the outside of the MC Cable too that I grab when I’m doing a bunch, but I will usually just make do with All In Ones on small jobs.
If you set up for a big job it’s worth using all the specific tools for the job for sure 👍
The Milwaukees wear out more quickly (especially the cutting edge) and aren't as comfortable. Used one for years and there's no comparison to the Knipex (which is worth 10x). I also use the Knipex Installation pliers that does only 12/14 (not spring loaded) most of the time as it's quicker to strip when you don't have so many hole sizes on the tool.
I’m the exact same as you. I use the Electrical Installation Pliers more often. I like the size of them, and them not being spring loaded.
I do think it’s crazy that those are more expensive than the Forged Wire Strippers though. 🤷♂️
Forged wire stipper was initially developed for the US market, the rest of the world get installation pliers. I just recently acquired that and is it good or what? The best.
@@baronamru5893 they are great… best I’ve ever used
I have around 10 pairs of knipex pliers but haven’t gotten these strippers cause the Milwaukee ones have a crimper while the knipex pair doesn’t
@@brettward5735 👍👍.. I don’t use a crimper crazy often, but if you do that makes sense
@@MORGANSMaintenance residential hvac , crimp ons for a lot of connections in our units and some humidistats, also the 18 gauge stripper is good for stat wires
The alignment of the jaws on mine was a problem and would get caught on the stripper portion, the fugiya version was horrible, napa was much better. Never had an issue with the knipex, even after using it for a while
I have used the Fire out of my Knipex and they are still going strong. I don’t use these Milwaukee ones as often, haven’t had a problem yet… but who knows if I used them the same.
I have various brands.Klein Milwaukee Ideal Greenlee etc.But the Knipex are the one for long distance especially the cutting screws that you don't need to tread. 💪💪💪 That's why they are pricey
The old saying is “You get what you pay for”… with Tools especially, it’s generally true. 👍👍
This has nothing to do with the video per se but do you know what size metric nut driver fits the nuts that come with a lot of sconce and coachlight light fixtures these days. It's close to a 6 - 32 but metric and I have a hard time finding anyone that wants to even talk about it. Thx.
Im not sure if it’s the standard, maybe someone on this channel knows for sure… but I just checked the ones on my garage and they are 7mm
Probably a 4.5 mm
3/16 is very close to 4.5 mm which is a thing in socket land
Great review!
👍👍. Appreciate it
I'm an electrician for over 35 years now. I've never been a fan of Klein wire strippers. Their linesman pliers are great. Especially the 2000 series. But I just never liked their wire strippers.
My go to wire strippers are made by Ideal Industries. The Super T stripper handles the sizes I need to strip most often, and they cut screws and make loops real easy, and they seem to last. They also just feel real good in my hand and after trying many other types, sizes and brands, I always go back to my Ideal Super T strippers.
I own the Milwaukee and while it's not a bad tool, I just don't like it for all day everyday use when stripping wire.
I own lots of other Knipex tools, but I don't own that set of strippers. I might give them a try, but because they're also much larger than my Ideal strippers, I doubt I'd start using them as an everyday wire stripper instead of my Ideal set.
But who knows. I could find that I like them so much that they replace my Ideal set. I guess I'll see after giving them a try.
Thanks for the great video.
I’ve used many sets of Kleins in the past also. They all work, but not in an effortless way if that makes sense. Most strippers I’ve used strip fine, it’s always the cutters that make the difference for me… and the little things like the latch.
I really like the forged and the Electrical Installation Pliers from Knipex. They only strip 12 & 14 though…. And are more expensive. They are slimmer profile and a little smaller. I use them when 12 & 14 are all I’m doing.
I haven’t tried many Ideal tools, but that’s cause I rarely go to Lowe’s who carries them in my area, and the main Electrical Supplier I go to mostly has Klein too.
I might have to check out the Super T 👍
I would rather purchase Tools of American or German manufacture than of Chinese or Taiwanese manufacture . Removed the nose plier from my Knipex brand to make it less cumbersome working on Class 8 truck wiring .
Very well done review !
@@vicpetrishak7705 knipex are hard to beat. I haven’t used one of their tools yet that hasn’t performed really well
You might be able to shave off a little bit of the handle grip to access the lock better?
You might could. 👍👍
How do these compare to the 9" version (part 48-22-6579) from Milwaukee?
I don’t have those… maybe someone else will comment. Those look like the thinner style of strippers, I tend to go towards ones like these pliers.
I've got both. They are both good tools but completely different. That one is a nice and more precise tool for installation and low-volt work. The High leverage strippers are better for rough in and commercial work.
@@theassassin8701 appreciate you helping out 👍👍
Does the Knipex mess up the threads at all with cutting screws? Seems to me the threading into the Milwaukee is tedious but it ensures no thread damage. Thoughts?
I have cut many different screws with mine. Electrical & Cabinet knobs… never had any issues with them not working (yet anyways, I may have just jinxed myself 😂)
Can the loop hole on the Milwaukee cut?
@@vergilmitev943 it’s the same hole for cutting 6-32 screws…
Why do you prefer the dipped handles over the molded?
It’s just a personal preference. I like thinner handles because I just can “feel” the tool more. The other handles are good… it’s just something I prefer.
I know people who prefer the comfort grip.
Klein K12035 instead, $23 new on ebay, US made.
I've had a pair of Klein similar to those (i don't think they were those). They are good as well, but the cutter didn't open up as wide... maybe those do.
Definitely want those knipex!
If I had never held the Knipex in my hands and used them… I would be super happy with the Milwaukee’s. Since I have… it’s hard to be impressed 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance I just ordered them, thanks for the great content!
@@turtelz217 👍👍. I think you will like them… and they will last you a long time.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I agree. Also to my surprise I got some mini pliers wrenches and cobras via my wife who has listened to me talk about how much I would like some, so 2024 will be an experience with new mini wrenches and an awesome set of wire cutters. Christmas was nice this year lol.
@turtelz217 That’s nice… my wife doesn’t attempt to buy me tools.. she knows I’m picky and doesn’t listen enough to remember what I have and don’t have.
I've gone down the stripper rabbit hole. Did I just type that? Mostly to find the holy grail of automatic strippers. I have a couple pair of the expensive Knipex which were a disappointment. I gave up and bought the Knipex forged. I have never used a better stripper. They are great. Still thinking about trying the Klein autos though. The grip on the Milwaukee look like Engineer/Vamplier style.
You messed up my Xmas too. I gave my wife a few links on your favorite tools which she bought. On accident UPS came and I opened the Knipex auto adjust pliers as it didn't have a name just our address. Anywho I bought a really expensive Onyx/Quartz centerpiece for our table. She insisted we split it as a Xmas gift to each other. Now she's holding the tools hostage for my birthday. lol Have to wait until May now.
You just have to order her something else and do a trade 😂
That’s why I compared these to the Knipex. They are similar in size, but to me the Forged Wire Strippers have set the standard. Something has to overthrow it to take the crown.
Not that the Milwaukee’s aren’t good (especially for the price), they just didn’t overtake the best in my opinion.
I’m a May birthday as well… all greatness was born in May 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance Hail the Mighty Order of Taurus
@scotts4125 what auto strippers have you tried? I’ve been eyeballing a few of them
@@scotts4125 I didn't make the Cut-off... I'm a Gemini
I gotta ask. What did you do with all the stuff from Bed Bad ??
I had to get rid of it all.
I donated a lot of it to a couple Local Non-Profits that have re-sell stores to help fund what they do.
I put some on Facebook and gave away locally, I recycled whatever metal was left over, some went in a dumpster.... And I have some in my Barn 😂😂
I was able to find a home for a lot of it though.
How do we stop that dang squeaking on the Knipex? I’ve tried adjusting them, I’ve tried lube. Drives me crazy. 🤣😭
Mine comes and goes, but isn’t very often normally. Not sure if it’s cause I clean mine to death with Houdini all the time.
My bet would be tri-flow for that.
Great comparison from a pro and amateur point of view
Appreciate it 👍👍
I got the milwaukee from home depot for $20...great price
@@campkemp9466 it is a good stripper for the price for sure 👍
Mine are junk first cut on the bottom portion dented my cutters low grade cut
@@bazookaboy2377 👍👍… I haven’t had that problem but mine only get occasional use behind my Knipex
@ buyer beware is all I’m saying possible lemon … time will tell !!
I’ve cut 1/0 with the Knipex. It wasn’t really that hard to do but I wouldn’t do it on a regular basis
Yeah the cutters are by far the best and widest I’ve used. That and the latch. 👍👍
My Doyle Multi-Electrical, Works pretty darn good.
And if I screw it up, got another one no hassle.
Plus...No annoying latches, no annoying spring.
The Doyle's supposedly are Apex which is a Milwaukee Tool Manufacturing company supposedly.
However, getting to Home Depot/Knipex here where I live for tools is problematic and dangerous.
Theft and looting here is very common, so buying new tools all the time is not feesible.
So I use Harbour Freight for some of that stuff.
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If them devils dont get ya, the weather sure will...
I’ve had a couple people suggest those. I’ve always wondered if Harbor Freight gives you a new pair if they get dull?
@@MORGANSMaintenance
Loose lips, sink ships...
Just warranty them, no one ever asks, I don't say anything @ Hassle free warranty.
There are no latches, on the Doyle's....
@@VRCM_Skywarn_XUSA 🤐👍👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance
I do emergency response and the Doyle's have no annoying latches.
I'm using Harbour Freight Tools.
Because we cant obtain the high dollar stuff right now.
And it's got a few other, outer wire cable cutters that I use dozens of times a week
A Wiseman once said ...
Use what you got, and hope like hell it works.
And no doofus kills you or steals your tools in the process and tries to sell yer booty for cigarettes, rum and that plantation white.
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You are welcome 👍👍
You had me at stripper.
😂👍👍
I’ve been running the Milwaukee strippers my whole career. Everytime I test a new set of strippers I’m disappointed.
I’ve used them some too… I love the Forged wire strippers because how wide they open more than anything, but I mostly deal with MC Cable
Don’t cut anything but cupped with the Milwaukee! I have cut a spring of a spring nut with it and I nick the cutter
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The Knipex is a lot better. Strips with no problem. The cutters are super sharp, will cut through bx like butter. Just insert the fastener in and cut, no need to screw in.
I feel that way also. The Milwaukees are good for the price, it just depends on what you do and your budget.
I can get the job done with either, one is just a better experience.
No wire stripper is near the perfection of the knipex
@@tonypuga2502 I agree with you… my favorite of all time so far
No comparison ! Knipex FTW !
I agree… if you got the budget, they are worth it.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I love the shearing cut ability , doesn’t jank up sensitive / fancy cables ! I’ve used them a lot on Senstar fence sensor cables , which need a clean shearing cut !
@@chrisfyfe9212 👍👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance 90% of the time the Knipex offering Superceds my Lineman pliers , I can easily twist 3-5 14 AWG solid wires . The bolt / screw shearing is also superb ! My lineman’s are now pretty much a Badge of Office , or a Bar fight main battle weapon ( good for pain compliance holds ) !
@@chrisfyfe9212 I rarely use lineman’s anymore too. I don’t carry them in my bag.
German Engineering for the win
I think so on this one 👍👍
If it doesn't strip 10 stranded it's useless in commercial lighting/lighting circuits and more. Just sayin
I get lots of comments saying the same 👍👍
Milwauwee is made in China?
Some of their tools are… I can’t remember on these if they are Taiwan or China.
Some of their tools are made in USA, but not these.
had the milwaukee, bought them once wouldn't buy them again
👍👍… I’ve used them before and they are good, but they didn’t last as long before getting dull.
So if you buy multiple cheap pairs in the time frame you use one more expensive pair… I’d rather get the one that works better.
I always say, you can get the job done with all sorts of tools… I now look for the tool that makes it more enjoyable.
Those Milwaukee are straight up made in china garbage. I have witness several coworkers (4) buy the exact same ones you have in this video, every one of them ended up with horribly deformed cutting shears from only cutting copper wires. I suspect this because they’re made in china with inferior steel/ process (reason they’re only $20). Knipex I can’t comment on as I haven’t had personal experience with them. They’re definitely overpriced for $60
@@AlwaysBeSmart674 the Milwaukees stay in my home bag so they get used very little. I’ve used a pair of Knipex for almost two years now and they still perform like new. After using them I’d pay $100 for them since I use MC cable mostly. It’s the only pair of strippers I’ve used that fit around it and cut it super easy
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I had to look up what it means… and I’m still not sure 😂 (several options)
Knipex is KING! Creme de la Creme! If you want the best of the best there is no doubt who reigns supreme! 💯
I can’t think of one Knipex tool I’ve bought where I thought “That was a waste of money” 👍👍