Michel Foucault's "Friendship as a Way of Life"
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- In this episode, I cover Michel Foucault's interview titled "Friendship as a Way of Life"
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Great video. There are great ethical themes in continental philosophy that are not so much talked about. Would be great if you could do a video on Derrida and hospitality theory.
What a beautiful text! Somehow my intuition said that Foucault might have articulated this late in his life. Turns out true 😊 thank you David! This resonates so much
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dude, great video. i am just now getting into foucault and thinking about how brilliant he was
Derrida’s Politics of Friendship next?
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I'm getting a sense here of being gay as disclosing a new world in Heidegger’s sense. Hubert Dreyfus uses "the gays in San Francisco" as an example of world disclosure in one of his online lectures on Later Heidegger. But I'm curious is Foucault thinking of how this way of being could transform the dominant culture or is that not even a possibility?
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The Greeks got it right. So did many ancient civilizations for that matter. They had the perfect balance of valuing masculinity and warrior like values while maintaining close relationship to one another, and of enjoying erotic acts without making it gay.
huge props for understanding the potentiality of queer relations so well. extremely beautiful.
I have not encountered this interview with Foucault, so forgive my ignorance if this question is plain from the text:
Does this argument require specifically a homosexual "lifestyle," for lack of a better word, or could this argument not suggest that simply a different form of heterosexuality is in order?
I ask because it was framed as having little to do with the homosexual sexual act itself; what can be more subversive is a different form of living in a much broader sense. What I noticed there, however, is that it seems that a man who is heterosexual could engage in the sort of friendships and opennes with other heterosexual men. I don't see how that is categorically off the table.
If anything, it seems that some folks now have an ideological shift in another direction. a man who spends a lot of time with other men and is sensitive and open is often assumed to be gay (I myself have dealt with this).
I think Foucault meant here Greek 'askesis', a concept of training leading to some transformation, self-mastery
I think so as well, I remember reading that he was critical of gay culture for what he saw as people conditioning one another, in other words group conformity. So I can see him advocating the opposite a continual self emerging by choosing techniques of the self.
'Queer' is a term that gets thrown around a lot and is quite loosely defined, but for me that's what Foucault is describing here - queerness as a mode of living that is essentially at odds with the conventions of society. It's easy to get hung up on the sexual aspect of homosexuality (for obvious reasons), but the ways in which being gay/bi/pan/etc influences one's relationships with the rest of society as well as with other gay etc people goes far beyond the mere physical act. Alienation, code-switching and the formation of alternative social tribes are the obvious ones, but it also fundamentally changes a person's social role in a broader context - specifically how having a non-conventional or indeed non-existent family unit affects one's perceived value or purpose within society. In my own personal experience as a gay man, that's something that only gets more apparent with age, and It's an issue that continues and will continue no matter how tolerant and accepting of homosexuality a society grows to be. The ongoing search for an alternative model for living that can truly satisfy seems to me to be the very essence of being 'queer', and if anything it's more prevalent now than it was in Foucault's day. It doesn't seem to get talked about very much though, so thanks for touching on it here.
If this is true, how does everyone else develop friendship at all?
@@Qwerty-jy9mj I'm not sure what you're asking
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If friendship as a way of life is being queer as a way of life and being queer is by definition oppositional to the lifestyle prescribed by the hegemon, the implication is that they have no access to friendship at all. Do you think that's true?
@@Qwerty-jy9mj Lol no... gay people don't have the monopoly on making friends. Foucault is talking about "friendship" specifically as it applies to gay culture in this instance.
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So it's homosexuality except when it isn't? Or is it that when friendship becomes a lifestyle then it's when it's queer? I just don't see how one thing becomes distinct from the other without implying at least one group has no access to friendship.
There's an always-danger of establishing a new NORMA by criticism an old one. Gay-way gives a new opportunities of life practices, but not a new oder against traditional forms of masculinity.
the more I learn about Foucault the more I hate Jordan Peterson
Do you think these ideas relate to the socialist fraternal kiss?
We are riddled by our normative Christain reduction of love as either eros or agape. Philia is transfigured by the myth of the frontier, of capital markets, etc. The greeks had a much broader availability of meanings. You can have all these things and reject homosexuality in its erotic dimension.
Hilarious, philia is at the root of the love within the Christian Church, monks live in comunes of brothers
@@Qwerty-jy9mj I'm talking about our currrent culture, mainstream culture, and how Philia has been bastardized.
Liked the video and thank you for breaking it down. However, toxic Masculinity isn’t a cultural norm nor does it exist.
can you explain further how "toxic masculinity" doesnt exist? (its a term you acknowledge through use, so therefore it does exist by admission of your use of it, no?)
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this whole double stance on resistance v oppression but "alternative", not revolutionary but anticapitalistic, against hierarchies yet never descended from armchair Ivory Tower: Foucault, mostly in interviews and when giving account for his thoughts in practice of ethics comes away like some sort of alt-left: not the tankie prone to nazbol strasserites, not a marxist like althusser, yet almost being his own private wild forest where uncontacted sauvage, not blond beasts or "creators the creator seeks -- those who write new values on new tablets", yet he doesn't say like Rousseau "we can't go back into the wild, we'd just be feral, and also precisely romantic"; Foucault had to be so edgy as to be that wildling thing saying how if gay become accepted we'd conform and in a couple generations there wouldn't be any more pride or community; yet he died of aids and would never relent in taking the case and genuinely reworking revisioning the oppressed. A sort of mutualist anarchist, libertarian left of the French tradition; much like that of Oscar Wilde 50 years prior, but maybe the same with the same context. IDK, seems too slimy and lukewarm of a political, ethical position. But Lacan was no different, too, perhaps more shameless. But perhaps it was the only way to avoid losing credibility: it's a very narrowly lazy pleasant position of privilege he managed to keep. But sometimes sounds more conformist than center right he loathed
Too long to get to the point and indulgence in a thick polution of concepts. Did not make it more accessible. Should follow notes.
I clicked on this thinking it was probably about going to talk about how to make friends more openly .... since we live in such an isolating / independent culture in the Capitalist West.
Instead, it's a talk on gay life ... which is fine, but obviously for a more selective audience.
I feel like you might have missed the point since the whole critique is about the greater society that is so fragile that the very existence of gay people brings it under question, the fact that being born gay is "radical" is the more important element, not weaponizing your gayness to be radical. That isociety is based on heternormativity in a seemingly arbitrary way that directly makes the basic function of a man loving a man radical, because there is no space in friendship for love between men without violence and aggression, and how that might shape the way these people organize competition and society around these basic relationships...especially in regards to how that is exacerbated by capitalism.
If you know any Foucoult you may be more aware of how this slots into the rest of his concepts.