It’s probably be said, but try flipping around the QD mount so the lever is on the other side. Then you can move it that 1 slot rearward. Also, you can flip the direction of the lever if you don’t like that
I find the eye relief is more forgiving than listed, I Use a MI mini acog mount and MI rear combat sight , if you shoot nose to charging handle i haven't experienced any eye box issues even with it in front of that sight. The ocular sits about 1.5-1.75 from the changing handle Even if i get further back( 6-7 in) i just see blue distortion around the outside but its still usable. The PA mounting system was just too many parts and ive seen drop tests that bend the cantilever arm. I "could" mount my rear backup sight backwards in front of it since Ive seen I think it was UK or CZ forces doing that with an optic in order to keep closer to the same sight radius with irons. I'm no commando or a huge person. seems to work fine that way and the QD release for the MI sight is on my weak side, opposite of the ADM . I had an issue with an adm mount and a micro a long time ago and don't buy them anymore. i have pictures but RUclips doesn't let me post. Everything is in rearward slots and clears perfectly. Since the sight is way smaller than a mbus. With that setup if i mount the MI mount in the rear it puts the optic too far back for me and actually makes it unusable if you shoot NTCH, since your eye is too close. as for it not having three screw holes, acogs used to use only one. two is fine for a 5oz optic
You can reverse the direction of closure on the ADM qd mounts to provide more clearance for charging handle… Tension mount by closing lever towards the muzzle…👍🏻
I bought an Anderson stripped lower.I also have two Colt m4a1socoms.The Anderson lower has the keyhole on the upper reciever and on the trigger housing.Those are exactly where the keyhole on my Colt lowers located.The only difference is Anderson actually finished the trigger house but Colt doesn't finish their trigger housing.The Anderson went together with a Cmmg parts and functioned exactly as the Colts.I give Anderson lowers an A+.
That PA sharply raked cantilever mount has always looked fragile, and it indeed broke in a drop test by another reviewer. The ADM QD mount you swapped in looks a good deal sturdier. Clever idea to shift your MBUS backup rear sight forward of the prism mount. (Still probably beats an AK’s sight radius!)
OR U could reverse the QD mount (release handle facing right side) so the release handle goes forward when locked, it will lease enough space for charging handle. U r welcome😊
1) Just flip the base around. You'll get the last lug. Improving eye relief. 2) You could have just used the oem base with the straight riser. You won't need irons. Yes, i get that redundancy is king. But if you end up in a position where you need to go to irons, you're already pretty much F'd. And those are plastic. They'll most likely be wrecked, too. Its a great optic and won't trade mine for anything. Good choice man. Have fun with the new lego block.
I'm really looking into getting one of these & was considering putting the buis in front of it as you did, just not sure if I'm going straight up or cantilever ADM. Also, thanks for giving the 10yd look, haven't really seen a vid that shows how it looks on closer targets, very helpful.
@@blackmoses706 No haven't got one yet. I saw some youtubers review it and it is nice but larger than the 3x and I don't prefer the red dot mounting on top instead of canted.
Thanks! Wanted to show what it looks like through the optic. Hate reviews where someone just talks about the scope for 15 minutes and never shows what the view looks like.
I think fi you wanted to get the optic closest to your eye and not have the locking mechanism in the way of your charging handle you could flip the mount around no?
Yeah, this is becoming the big worry about the low-magnification Micro prisms: they are wedded to the 5.56 BDC so they make the reticle scaled too small for ease of use. I really try to glean information on this issue from reviews. Reticle size is apparently a fatal flaw in the new 3x Vortex Spitfire, for example. (The 5x seems to be better.)
@@marginallyinteresting thank you very much. I have the Midwest In. mount but was debating on getting the ADM because of the middle hole, and because it's ADM 😁
Do you think that I could use the qd mount with the cantilever from the microprism or isn’t it only attachable to the prism itself? Only asking because I’d prefer to keep my backup irons behind the optic instead of moving them in front
Yes, you could, but it might interfere with something in front if you did. I ended up changing the charging handle to a Breek Arms Warhammer and moving the mount to the rearmost slot.
This was an amazing video. I have a X95 Tavor but it's kinda heavy with my lpvo setup on it. I am thinking of the micro prisim as our barrels in Canada are 18.5in on X95. Thoughts
Thanks! Should be a good setup to save some weight if you don't need the higher magnification, but the 5x coming out might be interesting if you do (I haven't seen one yet). I do like the 18.5" Tavor for the U.S., too. Here, the 16" needs a thicker buttplate to keep it out of SBR territory, so you're not saving much on length.
You're right, that's kind of tough. 3x is enough to shoot at those distances, but might not be enough for positive identification of your targets -- assuming you need it for that. Maybe try your LPVO limited to 3x and see if that works for you.
Do you have a link for the mount?
www.admmfg.com/ad-b5-base -- try code armandgun for a discount. Not sure if it's still active.
Awesome! Thanks
@@marginallyinteresting It stills works 5 months later.
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@@marginallyinterestingjust used the code... still active. Thanks
It’s probably be said, but try flipping around the QD mount so the lever is on the other side. Then you can move it that 1 slot rearward. Also, you can flip the direction of the lever if you don’t like that
Yes, you could flip it. I ended up changing the charging handle to a Breek Arms Warhammer and moving the mount to the rearmost slot.
I find the eye relief is more forgiving than listed, I Use a MI mini acog mount and MI rear combat sight , if you shoot nose to charging handle i haven't experienced any eye box issues even with it in front of that sight. The ocular sits about 1.5-1.75 from the changing handle Even if i get further back( 6-7 in) i just see blue distortion around the outside but its still usable. The PA mounting system was just too many parts and ive seen drop tests that bend the cantilever arm. I "could" mount my rear backup sight backwards in front of it since Ive seen I think it was UK or CZ forces doing that with an optic in order to keep closer to the same sight radius with irons. I'm no commando or a huge person. seems to work fine that way and the QD release for the MI sight is on my weak side, opposite of the ADM . I had an issue with an adm mount and a micro a long time ago and don't buy them anymore. i have pictures but RUclips doesn't let me post. Everything is in rearward slots and clears perfectly. Since the sight is way smaller than a mbus. With that setup if i mount the MI mount in the rear it puts the optic too far back for me and actually makes it unusable if you shoot NTCH, since your eye is too close. as for it not having three screw holes, acogs used to use only one. two is fine for a 5oz optic
Great comment -- thanks.
Cut those nails or paint em. Excellent review, like the images near and far. Best yet for this optic. Thanks
Who knows if he is a guitar player
LOL
You could reverse the QD mount to put the release on the other side & forward in order to clear the charging handle.
Ive got one with the adm qd mount as well! great set up, im just using the low qd mount, with the pa medium cant riser.
You can reverse the direction of closure on the ADM qd mounts to provide more clearance for charging handle…
Tension mount by closing lever towards the muzzle…👍🏻
I bought an Anderson stripped lower.I also have two Colt m4a1socoms.The Anderson lower has the keyhole on the upper reciever and on the trigger housing.Those are exactly where the keyhole on my Colt lowers located.The only difference is Anderson actually finished the trigger house but Colt doesn't finish their trigger housing.The Anderson went together with a Cmmg parts and functioned exactly as the Colts.I give Anderson lowers an A+.
Great, no nonsense review. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
That PA sharply raked cantilever mount has always looked fragile, and it indeed broke in a drop test by another reviewer. The ADM QD mount you swapped in looks a good deal sturdier. Clever idea to shift your MBUS backup rear sight forward of the prism mount. (Still probably beats an AK’s sight radius!)
I had to do the same thing with my red dot and magnifier to get the right eye relief but still keeping my irons.
ADM or Midwest Industries mini Acog QD mount 👍!
The acog qd mount is low profile and the cantilever will connect to it so you get a qd mount that allows you to go as far back as possible
OR U could reverse the QD mount (release handle facing right side) so the release handle goes forward when locked, it will lease enough space for charging handle. U r welcome😊
1) Just flip the base around. You'll get the last lug. Improving eye relief.
2) You could have just used the oem base with the straight riser. You won't need irons. Yes, i get that redundancy is king. But if you end up in a position where you need to go to irons, you're already pretty much F'd.
And those are plastic. They'll most likely be wrecked, too.
Its a great optic and won't trade mine for anything. Good choice man. Have fun with the new lego block.
I'm really looking into getting one of these & was considering putting the buis in front of it as you did, just not sure if I'm going straight up or cantilever ADM. Also, thanks for giving the 10yd look, haven't really seen a vid that shows how it looks on closer targets, very helpful.
Any ACOG Mini QD mount will work, same footprint. The Trijicon mount is also lower than this AD mount.
The Midwest Industries mount has the QD lever on the other side.
It's a good option, too. Only has two screw holes, FWIW.
Can't wait for the 5x model from primary arms.
Do you know the release date?
July according to the website
Wait is over do you have one
@@blackmoses706 No haven't got one yet. I saw some youtubers review it and it is nice but larger than the 3x and I don't prefer the red dot mounting on top instead of canted.
Excellent review and good job comparing non-magnified and magnified side by side!
Thanks! Wanted to show what it looks like through the optic. Hate reviews where someone just talks about the scope for 15 minutes and never shows what the view looks like.
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
Great review man
Can you put thr qd mount on the other side so as it to not impeed your charging handle
Good vid man. Nice comprehensive review.
I think fi you wanted to get the optic closest to your eye and not have the locking mechanism in the way of your charging handle you could flip the mount around no?
Yes, you could, but then the lever might interfere with mounting something in front of it.
@@marginallyinteresting yea that's true aswell. 🤔
How usable is the reticle? It appears fairly small in the video. Great review, thanks.
It's pretty usable. It seems bigger in real life than it appears on camera (but it's still smallish). Thanks for watching!
Yeah, this is becoming the big worry about the low-magnification Micro prisms: they are wedded to the 5.56 BDC so they make the reticle scaled too small for ease of use. I really try to glean information on this issue from reviews. Reticle size is apparently a fatal flaw in the new 3x Vortex Spitfire, for example. (The 5x seems to be better.)
you don’t need BUIS on an etched reticle
Yeah, I don't really think BUIS are necessary, but I already had them on this rifle, so just wanted to use them.
Were you able to use all 3 holes to mount the PA 3x? Does the locking bar not get in the way of the middle hole?
You can use all 3 holes. You have to take the bar out, put the screw in, then replace the bar.
@@marginallyinteresting thank you very much. I have the Midwest In. mount but was debating on getting the ADM because of the middle hole, and because it's ADM 😁
Do you think that I could use the qd mount with the cantilever from the microprism or isn’t it only attachable to the prism itself? Only asking because I’d prefer to keep my backup irons behind the optic instead of moving them in front
I imagine it would work as long as your screws are the right length.
Some 45° offset backup sights would work good with this.
I think an offset or top-mounted red dot might be nice, more for the 1x than as a backup. I don't like offset irons because they stick out too much.
@@marginallyinteresting Even if they are flip up BUIS? You can have them down for storage, or moving outdoors, and flip them up for indoor use.
Can you move QD lever to other side? That would give you more clearance for charging handle.
Yes, you could, but it might interfere with something in front if you did. I ended up changing the charging handle to a Breek Arms Warhammer and moving the mount to the rearmost slot.
Rearward as possible would be the cantilever mount in back of the MBUS sight wouldn't it?
Yes, I guess you're right. That's probably going to be *too* far back for most people, though.
Can you co-witness with front post on akm ?
You can't use irons through a magnified optic.
Wish they’d put a thick black line under the reticle like the mini acog
Yeah it doesn't make any sense why more and more reticles are lacking thick German type bars. Find center easier and prevent canting.
Great video boss
Thanks!
This was an amazing video. I have a X95 Tavor but it's kinda heavy with my lpvo setup on it. I am thinking of the micro prisim as our barrels in Canada are 18.5in on X95. Thoughts
Thanks! Should be a good setup to save some weight if you don't need the higher magnification, but the 5x coming out might be interesting if you do (I haven't seen one yet). I do like the 18.5" Tavor for the U.S., too. Here, the 16" needs a thicker buttplate to keep it out of SBR territory, so you're not saving much on length.
@@marginallyinteresting it's a tough one as range is only 200 but my area is alot of farm land. So can be cqb out to 300+
You're right, that's kind of tough. 3x is enough to shoot at those distances, but might not be enough for positive identification of your targets -- assuming you need it for that. Maybe try your LPVO limited to 3x and see if that works for you.
Can you flip the optic around so the lever is on the other side?
Yes, you could.
You can also take the lever apart and put it back together so it swings forward instead of rearward.
Thank you.
They make a cantilever mount now.
Clip your fingernails brother you have claws nice review though
Couldn't u just put the throw lever on the opposite side?