Astrology Proven False? (Ep 2: Astrology vs Science)
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2024
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Written version of this video: vicdicara.blog/2024/03/22/ast...
I am a Data Scientist and I am interested in astrology. I offer my skills to leverage to do any statistical analysis.
A channel called Cosmic Cybernetics goes very in-depth into astrology and evidence gathering and data science, I highly recommend.
@@94sweetgoats52Agreed, although it is unfortunate that the channels focus has veered far away from the ancient astrology and towards the new form, although granted it does work with the same bodies on a similar sort of horoscope.
As interesting as harmonic or vibrational astrology can be, ultimately it's not the ancient art developed over millennia.
Though I do love his work and do draw on it and apply it in traditional astrology when I can.
aka. you know Python pandas.. and you think it's a skill
Now I know what it means to be FALSIFIABLE...thanks, Vicji!!!
Such depthful insights.
Thank you.
Thank you Vic!
Your contribution to astrology is amazing!!!
Wishing you all the possible luck in everything you doing! ❤🙇♀️🍀
Excellent video! This is very in tune with the kinds of conversations I've been having with my brother lately. You succinctly outlined all the difficulties associated with attempting to test astrology scientifically. Great work. Look forward to next installment!
Surprised Gauquellin’s work wasn’t mentioned in this episode. It’s probably the closest thing modern astrology has to a scientific experiment.
I’m replying to the wiki article. So if that mentions it, I’ll discuss it. Or is it not likely to be in there because it supports astrology?
@@VicDiCaraAstrology tbh, I haven’t read the article.
Ah, “mars effect”. That will come up later! Few episodes down the line.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology There was a big Soap-opera type sequence of events that occurred after the scientism-ists saw the data that Gauquelin had!
Willful ignorance makes me angry.
That's the DNA of their Soul, to be sheeps , nothing to be angry about , they just don't give themselves chances in the physical world to grow .
The zoom-ins on the facial expressions...really awesome 😂
It might be worthwhile covering the types of people who would be drawn to astrology, just like how athletes have their own astrological influences. Ayurveda and the simple breakdown of the doshas of an individual, as well as the gunas, point out many extremely important and indicative things about a persons inclination towards astrology, or anything, for that matter. I have learnt from experience when it's appropriate to speak about astrology, but certainly not around a tamasic earthy/airy character. As we all know, saying this as an absolute is just waiting for the exception to the rule, but it is true
Thank you. В какой программе вы делаете эти прекрасные видео ?
The articulation - Ma mi Mia 🤌🏻
These real scientists have some pretty fucking stupid ideas of how astrology should work. Helps to crack open a book but when you know everything already I guess there's no need to do actual research.
It’s true they really don’t care enough about it and just want a quick stamp of “officially disproven.” However we could rightfully be criticized in just the reverse. Very few people involved in astrology really know much about logic or scientific method, and mostly because they don’t think it’s worth the effort.
Great critique
The "all swans are white" argument is a specific example of "The problem of induction." I am not aware of all the literature on this topic, however I personally believe that it is a lot thornier than most care to admit or even consider. The very issue here is most things that dress themselves in the clothing of deduction are actually induction. Except perhaps mathematics and then we have the issue of "Gödel's completeness theorem" and what that means philosophically for the field of mathematics and deductive reasoning.
My argument is simple things work fine until they don't. Not sure if that is profound or just self evident.
Also, you cannot disprove anything based on its ability to predict.
I agree with you, thank you
Ironically on NPR this morning reported weather reports will be different depending on how much money whose seeking the data has to pay for it😐
Thank you 🙏🏼
Appealing to authority here, but I'm a Ph.D. in Social Science who has been studying astrology for a couple decades and who derives from a practiced family who has all used it for centuries. I don't believe science is capable of containing the vastness of astrology. Astrology came before modern science and thus exceeds it. Science is best used for fixed things we can observe and see. Soft science (social science) gets the same bad reputation from hard science communities because "science" largely fails to make sense of changeable, immaterial phenomena. (I should be clear that the hard and soft dichotomy doesn't relate to how difficult subjects are. It relates to how fixed observable phenomena are. Soft phenomena are difficult to pin down and predict, whereas hard phenomena are easy to pin down and predict.) Astrology is soft if we attempt to fit it into the science world. And even if we come up with some results, we'll forever be trying to scientize a spiritual field that doesn't need scientization. We don't have to prove anything to "scientists," and we don't need to validate astrology's significance. They'll catch on someday. By that point, we'll be well ahead, as with most things: meditation, therapy, fasting, and so on. (I should say: the former points on meditation, therapy, fasting -- all stem from learned spiritual practice.)
Thank you. Excellent comment.
agreed, I understand where the scientist come from; their fear of something that isnt an absolute is very valid considering the multitude of wack jobs who have used spirituality to nefarious ends. They just dont seem to understand that their own position can be just as psychotic. Perfect example, if the birthrates are plumeting, would Rape then be valid? Can get more hard numbers then that and reading pat buchanians Death of the West, he basically was eluding to a state "incentivized" Breeding Program.
What people need to understand also is that scientific validity, what it means and how is obtained is a subject matter of debate among the sciences themselves precisely for the complications that arise from variables previously unaccounted for like Vic explains here with astrology. As a psych student I can tell you psychology has fought with tooth and claw for it. Famously Karl's other example was psychoanalysis Now I am not going to sit here and play devil's advocate with Sigmund Freud of all people, but I do mean to point out that science itself is often troubled about the question of validity, specially outside of the strictly natural sciences like physics. Because of the difficulties of applying the classical method outside of controlled lab conditions. Social science is often the prey of constant epistemological critique from armchair "people of science" that don't understand how hard epistemology is and complex the search for answers. In short science is not a monolith and sometimes they themselves don't know what they are talking about. But that's the fun of it being an open task as Einstein used to call it.
I was able to follow the work of a guy who could predict with in 70% proper job placement for individuals by natal vedic astrology.
I should look him up again. people need to stop complaining, start doing. Prove it with our vast resources of data crunching our consumer computers give us
How did you measure 70%?
Love these videos Vic, you’re doing some great work and are very objective in your reasoning.
Pranam Guruji.🙏🙏🙏
Can science say how many children does women is going have, though it can tell wheather she is going to have a child or not, how can science experiment ask such questions
13:00 🔥 nailed it
In-depth.
🙏🏾❤️🔥 !
Great stuff, Vic!
Exactly. Brilliant 🙏
Very nice
The resistance comes from EGO beings, and astrology means you may not be in. Control of this matrix as "they" would like to be. They" aim to be "Gods," ironically 😂😂😂😂
Vedic Astrology IS a science.
"Science is about facts, not the Truth." Sadhguru
It also depends on the astrologer and the time of the experiment due to transits affecting 😂😂😂😂, they will never understand astrology and continue to live in disasters
If you find one case where astrology "predicts" the outcome it means astrology works? If you think that then you might be wooed by your own confirmation bias.
No. It means Wikipedia’s statement “when falsifiable astrology is always false” is wrong. Please watch the video again with more care.
@@VicDiCaraAstrologyno astrologer has made a huge amount of money on the "empirical power of astrology" because astrology has no empirical power. The proof is in the pudding.
@@VicDiCaraAstrologythe claim wikipedia makes "when astrology has been falsifiable its been falsified" might be true because no one has ever found a a falsifiable experiment regarding astrology that didn't falsify astrology. Create a falsifiable experiment that doesn't falsify astrology and you can prove astrology works within the context of the experiment.
@VicDiCaraAstrology I should clarify by "falsifiable experiment," I mean an experiment that is capable of falsifying or disproving a hypothesis under investigation, rather than the experiment itself being subject to falsifiability.
Do you mean there are no wealthy astrologers? And do you mean that this is a valid way to test the merit of something, by how much money it generates? There are very very wealthy cult leaders, btw.
falsifibibilel
Kali Yuga.
Very little understanding in this world.
I know that this is a sensitive topic, but I find this “Astrology Proven False” and people behind it comical. Nice work on ripping apart Astrology Proven False. Very elegantly executed and with ease, you used your words like a Samurai uses his swords. I find that these backwards statements have nothing to do with what Science is or with what Astrology is about or should be about. Thanks for using this nonsense statements for educational purpose.
Hey friend you look like JESUS to me. Your face and expressions are naturally very holy🙏
😂😂😂 ALL sciences are false bro .
You are typing on a phone thanks to science.
@@user-bh6xx1eg6k I'm a nameless energy , I'm the one , I'm the soul that directly interacts with all types of intelligence, science needs me , not the opposite, go grow up before it's too late Lol
@@Lu-ot8hsany time you use a product of science you need science for the producer of whatever technology you're using. If you really don't need science destroy every phone and computer you have and see if you are still satisfied with a life without technology.