Scientist Exposes Why Your Reality is All a Lie | Donald Hoffman on Conversations with Tom
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2021
- Imagine waking up from a simulated reality where everything you know is interpreted and never truly experienced. Is it possible the reality you’ve known for the last few decades is no reality at all? In this episode, Donald Hoffman returns and takes a deeper dive with Tom to discuss the complexities of consciousness perceived in and out of spacetime. Donald shares the possibilities of consciousness and the infinite nature of theories that exist outside of the virtual reality headset he uses to describe the version of reality you may still be experiencing. Take the plunge into this conversation and challenge the consciousness of what you call your true self.
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SHOW NOTES:
Consciousness | The theory of reality beyond the physical space and time [1:24]
Spacetime | Donald relates Grand Theft Auto to understanding reality beyond space time [7:48]
Testing Reality | Testable predictions of reality outside of space time and the fundamental nature of consciousness [10:40]
Conscious Agents | Donald introduces conscious agents using the Twitter model [16:00]
Conscious Illusion | How consciousness is not bound to the laws of physics and is created as needed in a simulation [22:00]
Evolution | Why evolutionary theory only exists in space and time within the VR experience [26:34]
The Unknown | The dark side of letting go to explore unknown concepts [33:40]
Spacetime Simulator | Donald takes us through how consciousness is explored [37:33]
Predicted Consciousness | Enjoying experience and predicting the realm of consciousness [49:57]
Girdles Down | The Girdles theorem and why everything can not theoretically be known [54:46]
A.I. Consciousness | How reductionism makes it possible to give rise to consciousness [1:03:54]
Created Consciousness | Donald explains the creation of consciousness from portals [1:10:29]
God Hypothesis | Donald’s hypothesis of science of God as agent of consciousness [1:15:05]
Asymptotic behavior | Long term behaviors from far away that use spacetime theory [1:26:07]
Alien Intelligence | Donald discusses alien intelligence and being in a simulator [1:31:22]
Living vs NonLiving | Being unplugged from VR game and notion of self [1:33:53]
Meditation | Donald shares how meditating to let go and have complete silence transforms his thoughts [1:46:20]
QUOTES:
“ Science has not yet been studying objective reality outside of our space time virtual reality, that from an evolutionary point of view, was just evolved as a way for us to play the game of life, and stay alive long enough to reproduce, not to show us the truth.” [8:06]
“That's what spacetime is. Spacetime, the sun and the moon, physical objects, everything that we see inside of space and time is just our visualization tool. The reality we're interacting with is nothing like the visualization tool. There's nothing like space and time. It's a whole network of interacting conscious agents outside of space time, a vast social network. And we've made the rookie mistake of assuming that our headset, VR, our visualization tool, is the final reality.” [17:55]
“no matter how much consciousness explores its possibilities, it could never come to the end of its own possibilities. And so it's in a never ending self exploration.” [31:22]
“And right now we're sort of stuck on this little headset, three dimensions, small amount of color that we can see and so forth. Just, we thought it was the whole world. No, it's just it's a little headset.” [33:08]
“So the reason I'm doing this is because I can't even imagine a specific color that I've never seen before, I can't imagine in four dimensions. In other words, I take it as a given that I'm deeply, deeply limited in my imagination. And I need all the tools I can get to help me step outside of my headset and try to guess, the unfathomable outside of there.” [52:47]
“There seems to be reward for absolute silence, no concept whatsoever, and out absolute precision on the other hand. And there's no reward for sloppy thinking in the middle.” [1:51:57]
“don't hold on to anything dogmatically right as that's the sort of the point explore and then be the first to kill off the things that you know really don't make sense don't don't hold on to them so it's an anti dogmatic point of view” [1:54:37]
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How do you define consciousness? How do you think of the intersection of reality and consciousness?
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Life is a huge game created by some divine computer with a bunch of mini games inside of it and we have become the sort of player that wins all games and people wanna keep playing with us.
U need to get Wes Watson on your show, you will thank me.
Great I will greatings from Peru
Man I really love your show , but the volume is so low I can't hear it!
It sounds like, out of sight, out of mind, makes it not exist, but how do you explain looking away from someone/something but still able to visualize....I'm so confused lol
I was listening to your guest and suddenly remembered Alan Watts' quote - "You are nerve endings of the Consciousness."
Joanna. This is complete nonsense. He is promoting this ludacris idea. Just to sell his books. Bunchbof crap. Trust me. Ypu can see on his face!!!
@@mustafabuljko4335 100% true correct answer
@@samantharomero2566 💓💓💓
@@samantharomero2566 Dont think I am even real. Just your imagination. He he. 🌹
@@samantharomero2566 u must be Spanish?
The irony is that the mystics have said this exact thing for at least a thousand years.
the irony has long passed if you ask me. now it's just plain stupidity.
Agree,theres a book call tao of physics where the physicist saw the parallels in ancient mystics and quantum mechanics.🙂
@@tanjohnny6511 whats your point
@@tommysvenson710 the mystics have said things like,emptiness,non self,and this world is an illusion.modern science is saying that now,especially q.m.ancient mystic use the meditation with power of the mind and arrive at these claims.now q.m is saying the same thing.the book tao of phycis explain this in detail.
@@tanjohnny6511 well of course but there has not been empirical studies and mathematical models that accurately prove it. This is about providing real evidence not just saying its true.
It makes my heart sing to see more and more scientists daring to peel beyond the veil. Thank you for bringing more of them on your platform, Tom!
"There is no getting there"... that floored me. The more the science finds and proves, the more it resembles spirituality. During this conversation, I was reminded of the title of a book "The Soul is Here for It's Own Joy", selected and edited by Robert Bly in 1995. Thanks for sharing this conversation.
This man is delusional,ugh.
Oh nice comment, I'm going to check out "The Soul is Here for Its Own Joy", It sounds very interesting. Thanks Sazena for the input.
@@nickacelvn I hope that you will enjoy it and be inspired.
And both Darwin and Einstein were believers.
This reminds me of what Neville Goddard always talks about. Like outside of this reality, we still exist but don't know about it. According to Neville when he gets out of this reality, he meets people he knew in this reality that were dead but they don't know they were dead and thinks he was crazy. We might actually be in a dream. Outside of this space and time, there just might be a parallel reality existing simultaneously. The more I think about it, the more I am convinced. What I am trying to say is: Outside of the headset, we still exist but in a different reality....and it goes on and on to infinity. Think about it🧠
Just getting into Neville. I haven’t quite dived that deep yet.
@@JohnnyArtPavlou His concepts of consciousness, reality and life are simply fascinating.
Neville knew his stuff 🙌
We are real,,, but not really real.
Sounds like the plot to the show “Severance” on Apple plus. Phenomenal show about split consciousness.
Tom, a full on Awakening of the Collective Consciousness would solve all problems. We need 1% = 80 million awakened beings organized into one force worldwide to achieve a full awakening, which will be a historic moment in all time and space and beyond the headset. This is the goal of the Collective Consciousness, therefore it should be our goal as well.
1% ? Said who ?
Look up 46 and 2 by tool it's about that and what your saying is very Jungian.Maybe you know this already lol.
@@malwinajaniak3025 Gregg Braden
@@maximilianderothchild8495 How does he know that ? For sure ? Channeling? And if so ? How does he know is true ?
haha... we cannot even agree that one completely inexperienced wannabe politician, reality tv megalomaniac would not be the best choice for leadership of any country for 4 years...
Max Planc nailed this a long time ago when he said "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.".
I remain grateful to Donald for extensively exploring this subject through Science while I chill here in the metaphysical waiting for him to get here.
I love this 😂🙌
Amen!
My head just imploded and now I’m unconscious.
There's one common thing that always comes amongst the top people in this field: Meditation
1:45:59
I think when we meditate we remove ourself from the current game or VR headset we have on; and we observe every other possible game. But when we choose another “game” we put on another headset and forget after a while the other possibilities and etc. Its a loop of continuous self exploration.
@Grace Bressi Apparently practice is the key - personal experience but there is no never - the prize is worth it.
@Grace Bressi dont try to not think just focus on ur breathing and hear your thoughts understand them and let them go. Eventually you will just be breathing its tough
Or DMT
"It's being good with letting go of everything that's known, and letting yourself venture into the totally unknown." This may be the key to living your best life.
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
Fear is calm like the weather.
This description resembles Advaita Vedanta
Missing Mr. Hicks as well. Here's Tom with the weather.
I heard of it happening to a young man a couple of months ago.
Bill Hicks.... ps I'm just a pigment of my own colourful imagination
Donald's hands appear to be going in and out of reality.
Yea... Green screen? But why? To further make his point?
Yep. I’m wondering what is on those book shelves he’s revealing periodically? Omgoodness. LHK = love hugs kisses Patriots
@@MoonStarDivide that’s what I thought when I saw it.
@@ShaniTheBurningTree love your name, btw.😊
And poor old phalaenopsis orchids - - once exotic, now in every hotel lobby, every background, every "decorated" home. All because they are "easy care" for lazy non-gardeners who want the look of exotica without the work. Poor things.
Many Eastern philosophies taught by yogis, mystics, seers, and sages have talked about a lot of these things throughout the ages. Science is just now coming to understand these ancient wisdoms.
Read: gettier problem. Right for the wrong reasons.
Demons are everywhere. They will be destroyed by our father YAHUAH in due time.Amein.
@@marcdemell5976 What does this have to do with religion?
“Through our eyes, the universe is perceiving itself. ... We are the witnesses through which the universe becomes conscious of its glory, of its magnificence.” Alan Watts
Clever, but hard to prove.
“I see myself through all of you”
@@LivingLegendMe geraint williams has the start of a good fiction novel, .......
@@christopherdesimone206 ever partake in LSD or mushrooms?
Worst person in recent history, second only to Deepak
Since I’m was a small child I have known this because I put two mirrors together and was mesmerized. It became the foundation. Not until recently have I heard so many theories that resonate so deeply with my inner beliefs. Thank you for sharing so in way people can understand.
You’ll never forget it all out. There is infinite knowledge and wisdom. You will never completely understand the reason fully, but you can understand individual components. Being conscious is an experience to learn lessons and achieve higher levels of consciousness to keep ascending to higher dimensions and forms of consciousness. This is never ending. Stop fearing death because birth never ends.
Well that’s what I’ve heard. As soon as you die your back in the womb.
This theory implys an individual but individuality is an illusion. Everything is one. Individuality is caused by memories. Pure consciousness untainted by the mind is close to reality. Reality is nothing and everything. Fullness and emptiness. Meditation brings you temporarily into reality. This life just a meaningless dream
@@TheSubpremeState I want to know more about this. would you please refer something? :) thx
Fully agree apart from the birth I believe the consciousness belongs to something that we came from to be here and will return to after death nobody should fear dying it’s only time to move onto other things religion heaven and hell are the reason everyone fears death all 1 big lie to control and empower the masses it dictates our way of living what we believe is right and wrong our creator didn’t decide this religious cults and evil people lied to us and we take it as fact or truth even today madness this life is just a small piece of what we really are
A most fascinating experience to watch both interviews. I'm fighting Covid, learning the Wim Hof method of self-healing, and I've immersed myself into these interviews. It has been existential. I'm so appreciative of what has gone into all this, and for Donald's commitment to meditation to try to get some starting point to get a thread out into the unknown. I love his humility.
What has happened to you since then?
Hope you made it?
“There’s billions of humans and there are billions of ways in which we explore.” I couldn’t help but correlate this part of the interview with the book I’m reading. I’ll preface this next part by sharing that I am not religious but I do consider myself spiritual. This is not a religious book I’m about to quote, but rather one that can take on various ideologies. In the book “Conversations With God” by Neale Donald Walsch, it says, “It is your soul’s only desire to turn its grandest concept about itself into its greatest experience. Knowing something, and experiencing it, are two different things. Spirit longed to know itself experientially.” So again - I am not religious but rather curious. It seems as though we are here to create and experience. I guess the biggest question is why.
I adore this book☺️ I have the whole Trilogy, it holds very interesting theories and you can read it time and time again. There’s always smth extra you haven’t initially found.
Wow, very well said
Maybe it’s just to pass on the information we acquired ...
Because God serves us when we are star seeds. When we are "soul serching" in the astrological world. But when we become planted in a conscious world we become born into physical matter. "Our bodies" we then are here to serve God and his purpose for creating our star seed or our soul. Maybe it's to perfect the souls that never die.
When God sees his souls who have perfected themselves maybe that's when we go to Heaven!
What's the purpose of existing in heaven if that's all are souls are doing?
It will all become clear once you die and your consciousness returns to its true form 🙏
When you let go of all thoughts, you automatically arrive in a new reality, and if your aware , you recognize it right away, if not, you still need to understand even more in the present moment reality.
This interview is EVERYTHING.
I am obsessed 😍
I have seen Donald Hoffman interviewed by many other PODCAST and RUclips hosts .... Tom ... you did the best job peeling the onion and getting to the core of the many complicated concepts Donald is putting forth. THx!!!
Why does everyone feel crazy? I wonder...when you are constantly lied to from day one, it sets you up to feel "crazy".
Spot on yes Physical objects or wants a thought manifested into now the table so it’s all a G you’re so right
Our Heavenly father YAHUAH will teach the chosen few one day soon ,HalleluYAH!
Because some lunatics are trying to create their own reality in the reality we live in.
They spread lies after lies trying to turn their lies in to reality, but the world does not work that way, sooner or later people will find out it's all nothing but a loads of lies.
@@user-lj2zm2uo2v dude...we need to talk. You know how the world works?!!! Yay!! I need to know.
@@atyourservice67 I don't, just talking some gibberish.
Dearest Tom! I’m so very grateful that you bring such remarkable, fantastic guests on your show. HOWEVER, I wish you could restrain yourself from interrupting and sometimes jumping ahead of your guests replies! When I’m excited from talking with phenomenal people, I too, am guilty because of my excitement! Just wanted to get this out to you!
Keep up your wonderful shows! Love you! Thanks 🙏
I know you're not being critical and just giving some feedback, but Tom almost **never** interrupts. He is one of the best interviewers out there when it comes to not interrupting. Tom will let guests speak for very long periods of time to let their thoughts fully flow and come to full fruition (so to speak) to allow them to express their full thoughts on any given subject and without interruption. I'm guessing if Tom's interrupting a lot in this video, Tom's super pumped about this subject so this video mustl be worth while watching.
@@movingonandup322 She's right, he just gets a little excited and cuts off speakers in spots.
and that is what is outstanding , the art of asking questions.
in fact the curiosity and questions helps in understanding the ongoing topic more deeply , imo questions aren't deviating or interrupting rather very much illuminating and enlightening.
I truly appreciate his way of asking questions artistically.
also the guests really appreciate his curiosity and the art of asking questions, it makes conversation engaging and more enjoyable.
imo, questions essentially makes those conversations extremely interesting and outstanding.
Let’s get back to in person interviews!
No Masks, hugs and handshakes!
Lost
Yeah, but what about this flu with a 99% survival rate?
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 Was hoping to see some raw food videos on your channel?
@@UnschoolingCOM I used to have a whole bunch of raw food videos and still recommend people eating 3/4 of their diet raw foods but now I'm eating cooked vegetables and some meat I just couldn't do it long term but still think it's very very healthy for people and the biggest thing is you don't get fat when you're slamming fruit is the exact opposite anyone can run an experiment for a couple weeks and just eat fruit just to see how fat you get or if you lose massive amounts of weight I was losing five seven pounds a week eating nothing but fruit and I was gorging myself on it
This was truly eyeopening and I will re-listen to try get more out of it. His book shall be on my bucketlist.
Thank you for inviting him, massive appreciation!
Reminds me of an acid (LSD) trip where time and individuality don't exist; "You" haven't an identity, only conscious thought expanding in an infinite soup; conscious thought travels out beyond, then back to present awareness, then expands out again, repeatedly - correlating and connecting "all thoughts" logically to everything. Visually the physical world appears unnatural; similar to looking through a screen and when zooming in specifically to this screen you see a pattern similar to pixels on a TV screen..... I guess you'd have to be there...LOL
Mystics have known this forever. Physical reality is the formed result of infinite dimensions.
Yeah but no one wants to believe that 😅
@@bastianrivero I believe that..
@@obedientconsumer5056 👆🏼🔥
It’s one thing to believe, it’s another thing to know. The mystics knew.
@ruclips.net/video/NLUI2c9RYug/видео.html
Finally a scientist who is looking outside the "popular" scientific view. Way to go sir!
What exactly is the “popular scientific view”?
Waayyy outside it…time and space are debunked…wow.
Hey Tom, I really liked this conversation. I have a request to make. Is there any possibility to have Sadhguru and Donald Hoffman on the same platform talking about consciousness. Could you please make an interview with both of them at the same time.
We only have 5 sensors . Our eyes can’t detect odors but our nose can. Our nose can’t detect sound waves but our ears can. We’re limited to our sensors. Imagine what else we can detect if we had other sensors.
According to some psychedelic users you can hear colours, taste sounds and smell thoughts so there you go
@@ellesab4873 you’re still only referring to the 5 sensors. Youre limited to those 5. Therefore you think that’s all there is.
_1 of 25_
My nose can sense my Sub Woofer.
_2 of 25_
My eyes can sense wasabi without looking at it.
It's funny that we imagine something unimaginable... using imagination we build from imaginable things.
Unimagined not unimaginable
With all due respect. How can you possibly imagine something that is in fact unimaginable? I mean, the very fact that something is unimaginable means that whatever you do imagine can 'never' be seen to be the truth. That your imagination is in fact nothing more than 'self delusion'. And that as such, the sooner you are able to get rid of your imagination, the better it will be for you. As of course once you do, you will then be able to successfully connect with what you have long been looking for (trying to imagine). Andrew.
Imagination Education is lacking (from most schools of thought, individual approaches, etc) 💯
ruclips.net/video/ZUW-OGUeXFU/видео.html
Interesting... I'm just starting on this but I can say that Buddhism has addressed this completely. Buddhist philosophy already describes our world as illusory and states exactly how manifestation occurs. They also understand how we ended up in this video game and how we can get out of it. Beyond that, dedication too much time to trying to understand what's outside it tends to drive people insane. We should concentrate more on understanding cause and effect in this reality, compassion, and becoming a Buddha ourselves.
As far as being "stuck" in the headset... You are here because you don't have the metal fortitude and stability to be without it. This is likely why those who contemplate what's outside it go crazy. You don't have the facilities yet to understand it. I see the headset as more of a crib and our bodies as an anchor for our undeveloped and unstable consciousness. We are like babies in terms of our overall development and we can't even understand what it's gong to be like to "grow up".
Could you recommend a book about Buddhism
GATE GATE PARA GATE PARA SOM GATE BHUDDI SOHA. You got it.
@@pam6760 I was going to ask you the same thing how did we get here and how do we get out of it.
@@babblingidiot7903 what is the chant mean ghastly ?
Thank you in advance in case you ever read the comments again 😊
@@sacredgeometry536 long story short, it means: be awaken by going to the light and not coming back.
Compassion and love rules the universe. No matter what period of time consciousness emerges the universe always presents us with a path to the truth, religions, psychedelics, modern physics. The teachings are essentially the same. We are loved by the infinite universe, and we should enjoy the ride.
The vail is my favorite part.
"...always carry a certain timelessness with you..." Alan Watts
I guess this sums up to what Alan watts said - Through our eyes, the universe is perceiving itself. Through our ears, the universe is listening to its harmonies. We are the witnesses through which the universe becomes conscious of its glory, of its magnificence. We are the explorers.
I've listened to so many conversations with Hoffman.....but this one....really was the best. So opening!!!
Watched the full 2 hour first interview, and half way through this one. And with all this impressive science, I can't believe the question has not been asked: can we change our reality to how we would like it to be.
You asked. What's your answer?
We can
Can Super Mario upgrade the game console?
You can in your own mind, but then you'll be delusional.
You can't expect the world to change to the way you want it to be, how egocentric or crazy do you have to be to think you're that important and almight that you can change reality? It's just sociopath mortals playing god.
@@user-lj2zm2uo2v You missed the point - we all have a blind spot in our eye which the eye fills in
In nature there is no color, our eyes give it color - that is what "changing" reality means, it is about perception - like one guy touching the elephant's trunk and saying it is long like a rope & another touching its side and saying it is like a wall - both true statements
Oh my!!!! The looks and treatment I’ve received for many years by making the very statement “I don’t actually know what I am doing.” Thank you gentlemen for airing out this fallacy we were programmed to perceive and believe to be “re-ality”. Now, we are in a pivotal, profound and powerful position, never to be the same . I look forward to the last manifestations that are going to transpire when we all get on one accord of likemindedness. 30 ideas and concepts confronted in this conversation, I disagree only with the Creator that endowed us with consciousness and discernment not knowing everything. This is why He encourages us to “in all our getting, get understanding “ (Proverbs 4:7) Much obliged my good sir!
*"The difference between average people and achieving people is their perception of and response to failure."*
*― John C. Maxwell*
*Failures are the only way to success.*
One can never connect with reality by 'thinking' about it. You have to simply 'BE' it. And in order to simply 'BE' in contact with reality, your mind must of course BE 'absolutely still'. Something that is not in fact that difficult for us BE-ings to achieve. Once you have realised that your constantly wandering/thinking mind, is in fact the one and only real barrier that you need to break down in order to access reality.
@Agent Smith Why would I possibly wish to go backwards?
@Agent Smith Well, having now all but completely silenced my once extremely troublesome mind and emotions. In order to do as you say, I would need to leave that above mentioned 'hard earned' state of quietude of mind. And yes, that would in fact be a step backwards for me. Best wishes. Andrew.
I love Tom's interviews, but the previous one with Donald was so dissapointing, found it rude to him with Tom interrupting so much. But he's back on the show and I really feel grateful. I would never put Tom down, though cuz everyone makes mistakes. Tom's interviews have been so inspiring enough to lead me to think outta box. Appreciate it with all my heart.
Wow being far from a scientist, I will need to hear this more than once. I couldn't stop listening this exchange. Somehow I just so relate to it.
Tks to D. Hoffman, I found my motivation for silence Meditation. 🧘🏼♂️
Thank you to both and looking forward for the next one.🙏
It’s just like in a dream. Seems real, feels real, looks real. But it’s not. It’s all a product of the mind but it appears as matter.
Is real even something
It’s all a product of consciousness but appears as matter (mind is part of the apparent matter)
This is absolutely fascinating. Loved both interviews. Thanks!
It's awesome to see you so pumped Tom!! And I completely agree this is groundbreaking literal reimagination of how we can interact with our world!!
So I have some thoughts about becoming the coder, and I'm not certain they can be observed. My only interaction with the mainframe has come from within. There are some brilliant people using brainwave readings while people are in these hyper gamma states of introspection to begin mapping the landscape, but I wonder if it is like a radio telescope observing a quasar, you know?
I stick with what I know, I know that my conscious mind is a spotlight, and my subconscious mind, which is 95% of what I think and feel is a flood light, if if I use turn my spotlight on to my floodlight and examine why I feel, why I do what I do and rewrite that. That within my virtual reality self, rewriting my experience. Option number two, again strictly my intuition, we exit the game having completed all levels achievements and merits and we can go to the mainframe with the idea in our mind that we won! We won the game and we wish to transcend that experience and become a coder. Now I'm still working on how I can merge those two states of awareness so that I can have both right here, but I have not figured this out yet.
Just the other day I'd had an intuition that our ultimate goal as human beings is to be the coder, to literally make our thoughts real instantly! Right here right now, and that's what I believe.. (Btw I'm sure you rewatched this and were cognizant in hindsight, but you skewed into a 3 minute rant in the beginning of the interview! Lol. Ultimately I have control of the playback but I found it inspiring how totally into it you were!)
All love all the time, thank you for the upload
I just stumbled upon your channel and I am ecstatic! You're a welcome addition to my day to day, this is exactly the type of journey I hunger for. Thank you for enriching my mind!
Check out Escape the Matrix (Gaia TV, 2020) ..
he touches on a lot of this & the fact that we live in a simulated digital holographic reality
By far the easiest way to see that we are currently within a 'construct' of some sort. Is to see that it had a beginning, and as such it will eventually come to an end. Unlike reality of course. Which has neither a beginning, nor an end.
I knew that there was a computer outside of space and time that has always existed I knew it deep down in my heart.
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 Hello there. With all due respect. How can something that is outside of space and time (outside of this existence), have always existed? As of course, nothing can exist outside of this existence. I mean, the very fact that something is in this existence means that it exists. Now, in order for something to continue to be 'BE' what it is outside of this existence. There is only one thing that it can possibly 'BE'. And that is the very 'BE'-ing who is now actually creating this existence. The 'BE'-ing that is now inside (so not really in this existence) of your physical body. YOU. After all, are YOU not in fact a human 'BE'-ing? A 'BE'-ing in the form of a human? Just as I am. All the best. Andrew.
@@NowisEvollovetion hopefully it still on RUclips but watch the debate between Deepak Chopra and Sam Harris it's too nuanced for me to explain it to you for you to understand in this short dialogue. Deepak got absolutely destroyed by Sam Harris in the debate the woo-woo stuff just does not fly Deepak was getting so pissed off.
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 there are five computers in the center of the Earth
Mind blown, brilliant interview Tom, so many questions amazing! Peace
dudes on another level... I understood .0054% of everything he said yet remained intrigued the entire video.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who is confused 🤷♀️ but intrigued
Same here 🤓🤓
@@49ccMopedWorld pull the needle out of your arm freak.
This topic is explored artistically in a show called “Mr. Robot” if anyone wants to dig into some of these difficult question and be entertained at the same time I highly recommend watching this.
Has he ever done magic mushrooms? Might save him a few decades, lol
Dmt he needs to study me
lol
Lol science still gotta catch up. Give em time.
@@ariusarivali3473 he'll take many more decades and only discover the Truth during his "death", at this rate.
So true!!!
I’ve always had the strong believe that things and people stop existing when we are not in contact with them either physically and/or mentally
How has that worked out? I’m really curious !
I am recommending "Biocentrism" by Robert Lanza. He hassome thoughts about that
When there is no observer there can not be an observed. In other words, when you are not looking at something, that something does not exist. Andrew.
Hi Tom, I am a big fan of your work. I wanted to give my feedback and I hope it is received. As far as what can be known is all contained within ourselves (awareness). Practice this, sit in stillness / silence allowing whatever thoughts appear to appear and don’t identify with them. They will pass through awareness, awareness won’t pass. Abide in absolute presence and not in thoughts, reclaim consciousness from the ego mind and be still within awareness as the awareness. Know your true self and all will be known. This is something you can experience directly by simply doing this practice and you will understand what I mean.
I want to compliment you on your being meticulous in writng out the information and timestamps in the description!
Maybe one day Tom will interview Abraham Hicks, might help answer some of these questions😊
@Tom Bilyeu Then you should shut up about it, why you inviting competition to your trading strategy, bruh? Unless...unless your just another shyster trying to scam ppl? 🤔 Nah, can't be 😂
3 hours of silent meditation a day sounds amazing
Moving towards Scientist meets mystic, meets Engineer, meets Artist. A refreshing perspective that marks an exciting turning point. 🥳
Listening to this esp relating consciousness to godel's theorem has reminded that truth is a moving target. We may get better at trying to explain consciousness but may never really get there..
Consciousness outside of the matrix is one. It is singular and we are experiencing consciousness in a human material form in a dualistic manner.
So, Advaita Vedanta repackaged in this talk. Nice. BTW, for westerners this book would make for great reading: Yoga Sutras of Patanjali by Edwin Bryant. 🙏🕉
👌 agree, it is one of the most beautiful books I have ever read 🙏
Thank y'all so much dearest 🌹
Y'all such an inspiration 🥰
Appreciate y'all from the bottom of my heart 💖
Be Blissful Eternally 🙏👼🌈
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I love it when Donald offers "we need to form a deeper notion of reality" without offering a single caveat such as , 'which we will come up with using our physical minds'. Although he could equally have said: 'what we will have once touched by the hand of god'.
I agree with a lot of this man's ideas. If you want to dig into this idea deeper from a slightly different perspective, I highly recommend Tom Campbell.
Here's a summary: Consciousness is the fundamental reality which is expressed through mathematical structures. Because there is no end to the exploration of novel mathematical structures, there is an unbounded and never ending exploration of consciousness experiences.
Now, here's the kicker: "Bless us, divine number, who generated gods and men. Number contains the root and source of eternally flowing creation" - Pythagoras, 560 BCE
Hegel also asserted the universe is becoming aware of itself.
Its outside the body. Consciousness.
Think of unkept land
Think of unkept man
Both are subject to same
Best most imaginative 2-way interview I've heard with Hoffman so far. Just wonderful from both of you. Many thanks. Just wondering if you will interview Bernardo Kastrup any time soon.
Excellent dive into this! The remote viewers are skating the practice of outside of the common notions of space and time. Tracking the institutes of Farsight , Monroe, Noetic , Lorie Williams and the work of Erik Wargo we can glimpse the possibilities. Wonderful explorations!
Visiting the DMT world has helped me better understand all this! I see so many connections within science, geometry and spirituality.
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are you talking about the visuals? ... "science" became completely meaningless to me on psychedelics. You probably took a low dose.
@@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027Updating graphics card.
what if it's a Love Simulator? A learning lab where we come to learn how to love?
Love is the (Harmonious) Field where there is nothing (no Ego) in the way..... "I'll meet you there"
If that was the case, I would say check the comments section of social media. Seems more like a hate simulator lol
If it is, then it it is waaay broken!
for some is a more like a bootcamp 🤭
@@garyfornow542 Maybe not, maybe it's for all us rejects who never passed graduation at the Love University in heaven and we're just to dumb to pass the courses!
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I listened to Donald’s first interview at least 4 times , to just start to gain a fragment of understanding , it was epic 👍👍👍
There are sooo many questions which directly arise from this conversation and which were not (yet) answered so far..for instance, how to directly interfere (or get to the boundaries of) with the interface by higher means of consciousness, or what really could happen when our physical representation stops working inside the interface (on the level of experience)..or how can it be described what famous Yogis (like Paramahansa Yogananda) share in their books and reports (all those passed on superhuman powers), how do those entities manage to literally break the laws of nature inside the headset with their conscious agent, and so on..
I'm literally learning to program in VR.
Y'all are blowing my mind.
You're like mario in a mario nintendo game learning to how to improve your plumbing skills ;p
Hands down one of the most interesting conversations I've ever watched on YT. Tom's t-shirt is also very compelling. 😂😉 I especially liked (and agreed with) what he said about our narrow view of aliens. I think a conversation between him and Eric Weinstein might also be quite interesting. 🤔
Thanks Tom, this helps me put all my feelings about reality into words.
Thank you for the Samoans interview! It’s exciting to hear how so many bright minds are using science to bridge the spiritual approach... It was extremely insightful and inspirational!
Best episode EVER. Listened twice.
I don't know what to watch first, My reality is a lie, or How to live longer.
Try 'How to Live my Reality'. It's great.
Thank you, Tom and Donald, for a wonderful presentation. The "time" has come; the materialist paradigm of reality is dying. Consciousness is the foundation of our Being.
@Tom Bilyeu Thank you, but I'm not interested in trading bitcoin. It was the nature of consciousness, the foundation of our Being, that I found interesting. Wishing you a wonderful day!
@@I-Am-Aware i think tom was hacked? (dont think it was him... ive seen this same style of commenter, pretending to be russell brand on his channel)
I've been watching you being interviewed by many, and Tom seems very engaging and knowledgeable and curious at the same time.
One question - how come you don't touch on the subject of dreams. I expect you to have interesting thoughts on this topic. Strangely you've never been asked anything about it.
Thanks to both of you!
*I want to come back here 10 years from now and say, "I did it.."* 🖤
You already did babes.
Hmmm... I’m still wondering if he meant Tantric....
There is only now ..
Great upload, thank you so much for this one. I'm so in love with the quantum field. It was placed in space-time here. My consciousness got quite a bit of separation anxiety there, not knowing at present what it would communicate with without it :) Of course that's sussed somewhere, or doesn't consciousness communicate outside space-time? Perhaps it just is, and doesn't need to bounce off something. Okay, now the many questions in my little brain start clocking in, one after the other. Time to go and do the dishes :)
I LOVEEEEEE this episode ❤️ Im enjoying every second of it bc it talks to me n understand it 💕😍🙏🏻
Finally science is catching up!! the ancient spiritual texts have informed us and point to the body as a vehicle for us (ergo we are not our bodies). The extension of the headset if you will. We are Spirit beings having a “human experience” (grand theft auto). Makes absolute total sense and I’m absolutely LOVING the way this will change things…the implications have always been incredible however, when spiritually & Science were split up (as well as cosmology & astrology) we lost the information that we are approaching to revealing in the progression of this study. Amazing times! Thank you for a great interview ✌️
Donald Hoffman should have an interesting talk with Rupert Spira
I’ve seen this all I’m still here in this 🌎 but I need to find my purpose tho 🙏🏾💫💫💯
50:46 "Not arriving anywhere, but the joy of exploring for its sake" Wow!
I would like to try skill share!! I love ur interviews....I always watch ur videos because I can understand everything so much better when I listen to ur convos. Thanks for sharing!
*"If Im going to go beyond the interface, then I've got to let go of the interface."*
Just like we can program a videogame like GTA , e.g. , where the atmosphere is such that the characters can never fly over a certain altitude o reach a certain speed, it can also be assumed that we are living in a simulation that is devised in a way so that we can never grasp its real nature, no matter how we improve our knowledge of the world or how hard we try to think outside of the box.
It's so multi-disciplined of you to call it "The presentation layer"... I really like it.
Glad Tom is interpreting. Thank you for clarification. I almost think I'm understanding things . . .
Consciousness is ONE expressing through an infinitude of finite forms
finite forms=degree of information+entropy degree
Dang I was just watching the previous podcast yesterday thinking I’d wish they’d do another! It’s a simulation bro
I'm not an expert in the field, but when I hear experts views like this aligning with my notions of the world and reality it's quite reassuring and encouraging. I wish I had this exposure way back when they all started coming to me, now I'm missing how far I would've gone if I had not suppressed them struggling to accept and fit in with contemporary ideas!! Well, at least it helped me to survive till this moment!!!
Tom, thank you a lot for your amazing work and the incredible guests you bring. ⚠️ * I have a suggestion:* send your guests a *_good enough mic_* and camera (maybe just the mic) prior to your meeting.
I seen him and heard him just fine
@Kris jones I love Tom's content and the people he talks to. It is just my opinion and I believe is constructive criticism. I feel that the sound quality could be improved on that particular video that is all.
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It took me 40 yrs to figure out I was born into a scripted world that's controlled by rich freaks and everything is artifice or illusion.
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Correct
You really rode the short bus to school didnt you!.
Yessss! Cannot wait to listen to this. How did I not know about round 2 until now?
Best interview and ideas I have seen in a very long time.
Each of us are catalysts for Parameters
and it would then bring up what you hint at in this video
which is
what if we have to reimagine the parameters even dimensional Understanding of
how parameters and transformations within the parameter field can be directed with deliberate proficiency