@@stevemiller887 yup n seems like ego ruins more than it offers. The good news is, other ppl seemed to have interviewed Donald Hoffman. Much better interviews where they actually Listened to him and asked questions when he was finished explaining each theory. I found them on RUclips, by typing in his name. Cheers!😄🖖🏾
I read a lot of complaints about the interviewer and his supposed "interruptions". But imo he does a great job, let me explain. I listened to a lot of DH's videos, and I "somewhat" got his claims. But a bunch of questions popped up in my mind and I'd like to deepen my understanding. Tom is taking DH out of a monologue and putting him into a dialogue, jumping in when things get too abstract for a layperson and forcing him to re- articulate his thoughts by using an alternative explaining technique. Sometimes a deeper understanding comes just by hearing an information packed in another way. Tom is not interrupting DH from arrogance, he is helping to disassemble DH's thoughts into smaller chunks, which are far better digestible than the longer, uninterrupted "flow". But that's maybe just me...
To be honest I think too many people were critical of Tom, I watched it while in bed, I slept woke, slept and woke again several times, I plan on listening to the whole interview again when I up and about doing other things. It is very deep and difficult for me to understand, I don't have a degree in quantum science or mathematics so I have found Toms interruptions useful to help me get a grasp of what the professor was talking about, he helped keep him at a level for the common person. I really enjoyed the rant towards the end of the interview where Tom related to drug use good and bad trips, how he was afraid of messing with the unknown, how his wife likes the way he is, not over intelligent etc. I admit I haven't seen all the interview but I think Tom did a good enough job if not great, definitely not as bad as so many accused him of, I think he drew better explanations out of the professor. Its a weird world/life if you go to deep, I'm not sure we need to know this stuff it could make our lives less meaningful rather than real, sometimes I wish it were all a illusion because we can take it all very serious on the other hand some don't take anything seriously, so why all the grabbing for wealth and fame, putting others down etc. I think if we could learn to be better to each other less competitive more love less hate it would be a good place to start. Peace to all and let God be God or whatever you prefer to believe if that makes you kinder to others in this short journey we call life we all have to live through like it or not.
@@martinmuldoon603 Please listen to Purush sukta : Creation of Universe; as per Hindu Vedic scripture, Rig Ved Sanskrit shlokas with English translation. Namaste ruclips.net/video/8tbBWKGz6bM/видео.html
Agreed. I'm guessing that a lot of the people who are complaining about the interruptions are looking more for flow than they are an in depth understanding. Whatever ambiguity comes with hearing someone speak about such a complicated topic is something people will generally want to feel comfortable with letting go. I think it's just in our nature to prefer the path of least resistance, and in this case that's basically just having some stepping stones laid out for our imagination. The interviewer's questions forces more rigor on the part of DH and by proxy, on the listener.
You guys are, with any and all due respect, ignoring the thing the 20th Century was wasted on, and talking about your emotional assessment of some you tube tw@t'$ "performance" in comparison with Hoffman, who grew up in a weekly meeting with Francis Crick and the Fathers of brain science. Tom is nobody, he yaps to smarter people, and the internet mirror neuron models themselves AS Tom talking to a minor God. I critique and attempt to curate the work of "important" people, and they ignore real challenges to keep being themselves and doing what they do. Max Tegmark has pondered life in 1 dimension mathematically, and he didn't answer me about COVID, a full data structure in non-retro RNA. I think now that it was always here, and simply reshaped and reformed into the various pandemics of RNA nature that have been recorded. I adore the Oxford Sweating Sickness, as one who has always dealt with night sweats, sometimes of Biblical proportions. You ever wake up in a cool room with a gallon or so of sweat covering everything? Wu Han, the Chinese B@t F!_!cker might also be called Azazel, from the Bible. The next time ANYONE uses the word Demon or Demonology with you, show them this video and see if they are qualified to continue using it. ruclips.net/video/QSR5qN_SmYE/видео.html
I think that's somewhat correct, but there's so many different remote "religions" and spiritual myths that all have origin stories that seem to act as instructions for those people and how for them to act in this world. I think it's less a "vr headset" and more like a training stage or a pupae stage for a soul. Maybe the greater being(s) who created us uses this small time vet and create decent people who can live in harmony and without evil things in the ultimate levels of the afterlife. As for those who don't pass as being decent people, maybe they just get cycled (reincarnated) here until they have been broken down by life and remade into decent people, then they can go back home. Time dilation theory has been proven so it could be that this entire simulation is taking place in moments as some sort of training exercises for aliens, and even if we spent 4000 lifetimes here learning the required lessons in their society (like how to give up violent sentiments and be a truly community oriented person who isn't materialistic and selfish and so forth), maybe it's like their right of passage into becoming a true citizen of the higher light. Whatever it takes I guess.
I had no bizzniz with anything to do with these types of topics. Im a cdl driver, mechanic, electrical mechanical engineer, jack of all trades..except spiritulism and religion..was right up there with politics when it came to me avoiding argumentative subjects. Until I experienced a full blown unexpected kundalini Awakening. The whole shabang in 3 months. Vibration started in lower root chakra and rose up through all of them, activated third eye and crown and went on an indescribable journey. Hadno clue what was happening or where i was..but i def went somewhere, met someone who showed me many things and blessed me with many new gifts and insights. It is too powerful for me to ignore or deny. I have changed..i will never be the same. As hard as it was /is to learn and cope with this new truth and these new gifts..i wouldnt trade it for anything. I know exactly what people mean when they say "they found God".
@@justincredible5108 What a beautiful gift you've been given!! I had a near death experience, but my heart never stopped. I was in the ocean taken by a rip tide.. unable to swim out of it, I just let it take me. It had me facing up, pushing my back down to the rocks and sand...scraping my back every time I hit bottom and then pushing me closer to the surface but still without reach. It was then that I could see the sun shining through the water and thought... this is how I am going to die.. I can't believe that this is how it ends...it can't be, I didn't even have children yet!! And a calm came over me, like something or someone was there..telling me it was going to be OK. So I tried to swim one last time and I was finally able to get out. I was far into the ocean but I was able to stand on something, a sand mound maybe.... and thank goodness cause I had absolutely no strength to swim back. After about 10 minutes of standing there staring back at my friends on shore, and reflecting on what I just went through. I decided to make my trip back...exhausted and my back was completely scraped up. My friends said they called for help and thought I was dead. They were looking for my parent's number on my phone. Like you.... I will never look at life the same way or believe that this is it. There is definitely something bigger than us..
@@justincredible5108 sounds Amazing. You say God, maybe your Enlighted self, instead. Full Consciousness? Are you coping comfortably? 3 months is very fast. I think it took me 3 years, after my shift; not like yours, though. And I'm definitely rooted on Earth. I assume you are, too. I can't say I'm Spiritual, tho I did wske up and realize God is inside - not "out there."
Stop shouting please. It's so rude! Plus I find and I'm sure many others find, the so called interruptions helpful.(it's actually a conversation, not a speech)
He's a foul-mouthed ignoramus. The interviewer, that is. Plus, Darwin was demonstrably wrong, so this whole video is pointless, as I'm sure, is the channel.
@@keekwai2 to have knowledge of the "wrongness" of the theory would require challenging it in a way to make it so - what do you have to offer towards that end? Merely saying it's wrong doesn't make it so
Tom! You have to let the guy finish talking! Remember there are other people listening. You ask amazing questions, but you will not let the guy finish talking! ohh Please!
This ‘dude’ Tom is not a good interviewer. His ego is too big. I’ve seen much better interviews with Hoffman. I agree with another commentators, Lex Friedman, same thing unfortunately.
No. The questions were imp for us Laymans. The scientist is brilliant and will never explain what we want to know unless he asks them on behalf of us which we might not really be able to even if we were in front of the brilliant scientist.
i liken this interview to edging. Donald would be close to blowing my mind and just as he was about to say the last few key words... tom would jump in and reset by asking him something else... donald would then start again to build that "omg moment" ANNDDD tom cuts him off... BLUE BALLEDDDD :(((
I am a woman but even I felt this. It made sense before Tom wanted to spend more time on the subject and he starts bringing things left and right in.. When it made sense before lol, was ready to move on
The headset theory really makes sense to me, in fact you can imagine this headset being differrent for each species. When you look at a cat, you feel its a furry and cute little thing but when she sees you, she doesnt really know you are a human. In fact scientists say that cats see us as some kind of big and ugly strange looking cats.
This topic is understandable for the Commoner++ at the surface, but the discussion around perceptual models and associated meta model is not. That stresses Tom.
David Bergman We are smarter than Tom gives us credit for, but we do need a full thought to follow without it feeling like we’re trying to catch a throng of frogs in a swamp.
Hoffman is an amazing author and modern thinker. Tom, my second view of your stuff. Please just save the questions for after the guest explains their thought. Your interruptions are not helpful to their explanations or those of your audience who are here for them & just seeing you as a result.
Agreed. Tom's interruptions are rude and so unprofessional. I would have walked out of the interview if I was Hoffman. He deserves so much more respect. Tom Iis ignorant and rude for interrupting all the time. I stopped watching it because of this. So annoying 🎯 💯
Tom literally talked more than the guest, and 99% of his continuous and ceaseless interruptions served no purpose other than to prevent the Hoffman from being able to tell us about his theories. It was so enraging I actually had to stop watching and go find an interviewer who didn't entirely overtalk his guest. I recommend you drop taking the adderall before your shows. FOR CHRISTS SAKE LET YOUR GUEST FINISH A SINGLE SENTENCE.
Brilliant. Such a joy to watch two extremely intelligent individuals debating such a complex subject. I have long believed that we all have slightly different perceptions of reality but I hadn't seriously questioned whether or not reality even exists. It would answer some of the very profound questions we have about "God", life and the universe. I found the topic of mind altering drugs very interesting. I took acid at university in the sixties and experienced the mixing of the senses. Even now I can vividly remember the taste of the music as it came off the LP. My theory of why we are here is also that we are here to experience and learn. The question is, do I want to take the headset off? Thanks guys, I loved every minute of it.
In that different headset, I might have actually learned something too. To me, it felt like blowing up a bunch of balloons and popping them just as quickly.
Niel's Bohr quoted: "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." So maybe this universe is a kind of simulation? Until science can explain what the field is made of, then the simulation theory is really compelling.
Interesting - seen enough of Tom’s interviews to know he doesn’t make a habit of interrupting. I think two things are happening: 1) Given the complex nature of the topic, Tom felt a need to ‘interrupt’ in order to help viewers digest the content and 2) he is genuinely deeply interested in the topic and ended up interrupting to quench the desire to understand. All in all, it was a good subject/interview!
You can fast forward by moving the hand along the long horizontal line. The pictures of the video as this hand moves show you where you are so you can stop exactly past Tom.
2:07:21 Reading about other peoples experience can never bring you to the absolute magic of having a psychedelic experience for yourself. And the only price I've ever paid for doing the different things I've done in the plant medicine space is the realization that I have to come back to normal life. And at this point it does really feel like a price to pay.... but I'm deeply grateful for the time I do get spend on plant medicine... and just being pure consciousness is an experience I've had many times,... and after quite a few years of meditating, I can get there just through meditation now. Love this episode .... thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for supporting psychedelics! I have done plant medicine before too and now want to venture into reaching that state through meditation. But I don’t know where to start to find guidelines to help my journey. Do you have any advice about how to get going?
@@timelessadventurerAs you meditated look within yourself. Do a sort of trust fall into yourself. Into your own consciousness. People typically make the mistake of trying to look outside of themselves but the key is looking within.
@@timelessadventurerI'd suggest a guided audio course. I have one in mind but if I post it, might get deleted. Try looking at my "😉" playlist under the 3rd video...there should be a link. 😉✌️
Dr. Hoffman's discussion aligns significantly with the theories in Srimad Bhagavatam. Srimad Bhagavatam is a 10-volume exposition derived from Hindu scripture and describes the creation of the Universe and points to the theory that there is an absolutely truth (reality) in which there is a Supreme Controller (also called the Supreme Being), controlling many millions of planetary systems and black holes, each containing different living entities, which have different types of senses that perceive the same matter in different ways from living entities in a different planetary system. Srimad Bhagavatam also discusses that each living entity is a spark of energy, that originally was part and parcel of the Supreme Being, and at the beginning of time they are put into a cycle of Birth and Death, where, at the beginning, they are put into different material bodies (varying from human to amoeba), based on their karmic actions in previous lifetime. Each material body provide different degrees of suffering and when the material body can no longer be sustained, the living entities are released from the material body and move into another material body (i.e. cycle of birth and death), a process known as transmigration. Because of the slow pace at which human senses perceive movement of space and time, we assume it to be our reality because it seems almost constant that we can measure it with our limited senses, but according to absolute reality, the universe also as a birthday and death day - it is called one life cycle of Brahma. At the end of Brahma's cycle, the entire material universe is re-absorbed into the Supreme Being using black holes and then re-created again, when Brahma is again born. In the current year (2020) and current carbon-dated age of Earth (approx 4+ billion years), Brahma is approximately 56years old and dies at 100years. The universe has approx another 4+ billions years before it is again re-absorbed by the Supreme Being. It is all relative, there is only one constant consciousness, the consciousness of the Supreme Being, who is the only one who can observed transmigration, so new life, old life, time periods, evolution of species, etc are all only relative to the absolute truth. Humans start, humans end - that makes us count each life cycle, and hence, each life cycle is only relative. Most of us have experienced millions of births in previous lifetimes, but we cannot remember because the human body does not allow those memories to be stored. There are 4-handed beings considered higher forms than the human body, made in the image of the Supreme Being. Because we start and because we end, we have to consider ourselves untrue (inconstant) compared to the Supreme Being who is the only constant.
Dear Mr Phillips, I've not come across the term near death experience in particular, but it does make reference to a scripture called the Garuda Purana, Purana meaning testimony, and Garuda (a living entity described as a bird) is described as the physical vehicle of the Supreme Being. The Garuda Purana describes the transmigration process of a living entity that has assumed a human body, from birth (as foetus in mother's womb - suffering starts here as bacteria and viruses feed on the foetus) through to assuming its next body. Consider yourself fortunate in experiencing an NDE - it is just a status check on where you are relative to realization of the absolute truth, just the same as when a teacher drops a pop quiz (or surprise test) on the students. It seems that the conclusion of information in the Srimad Bhagavatam is that the main goal of all living entities is to realize what is the absolute truth and find a way out of the cycle of birth and death, i.e. to find a means to voluntarily re-absorb into the Supreme Being and end repeated cycles of suffering. The Garuda Purana also mentions that living entities are attached to the activities that they perform regularly (remember the old saying, association broods attachment?) and at the time of death or at the last breath, the strongest attachment will manifest in your consciousness, and whatever you are attached to, you will achieve that in your next life (kinda reminds me of the Law of Attraction) - for example, if throughout your lifetime you attach yourself to animals, there's a high chance that at the time of your last breath you will think about an animal, and that is the material body you will assume in your next life. So it seems that an NDE is intended to inform you on your attachments and it is up to you to change your attachments and acquire more appropriate ones - Srimad Bhagavatam recommends figuring out what/who is this Supreme Being and finding ways to attach yourself to that Supreme Being so you can get yourself out of the cycle of birth and death.
all these spiritual discussions ultimately come to the same conclusions which were written 5000 years ago in the upanishads and vedas in hinduism...you really have to give credit where its due despite all the contempt and villification hinduism gets from the followers of dogmatic abrahamic religions
@@zenscape663 Hinduism is not even a religion, it is a name given by English men Actually sanatan dharm is the religion that is confused with Hinduism. I can be an atheist and a hindu, but I cannot be an atheist and a follower of sanatan dharm
Thank you so much for this and for trying to clarify, but the interruptions are constants so it feels like the one being interviewed, Donald, always needs to diverge from his just-started line of thought, and we always potentially miss a conclusion. Too many interruptions, whilst he never interrupted, so it was almost like a power imbalance. But great great choice of guest and thank you for your hard work with giving us this info!
That's why one is a ground breaking scientist and the other is an entrepreneur. One knows how to listen and one knows how to talk. Just sucks that the one who knows how to listen is the one we would rather hear talk. This is generally always true
Tom please man geezuz dude just guide the conversation and stop telling us how confused you are. Seriously you talk twice as much as he does and he's the expert in the subject matter. You were such a great interviewer but somehow you decided to dazzle us with your brilliance. Just please let your guests talk.
Once had a psychedelic trip where I got the insight that consciousness was this unbounded thing and that it is literally trying to explore every opportunity and form it possibly can. That's basically why Donald is saying about Gurdels incompleteness theorom. There is infinite possibilities to explore, and there is a drive to explore them all.
Man, this sounded really interesting but it was too hard to get through with this interviewer interrupting every 15 seconds. I wish I could just hear a Donald Hoffman monologue.
You would prefer that Donald Hoffman's speculative positions and overuse of the word "mathematics" were never questioned? That indeed happens with most other interviews. This is why Hoffman gets away with his philosophical speculation - because no one quizzes him on mathematics and how it ties in with his philosophical positions. This is the bottom line: mathematics is indeed used in evolutionary theory and game theory. However, does the mathematics demonstrate his positions on "conscious realism", "icons", "conscious agents", etc? No - these positions are over and above the mathematics. Thus the thesis that "reality is unreal" is NOT "proved" by Hoffman (as it states in the heading of the video) because proof is a mathematical and logical notion; whereas the statement "reality is false" is metaphysical (or philosophical).
@@paulaustinmurphy I appreciate that you make some good logical arguments! We first have to understand how life started out before we research anything else! Let’s start first with the DNA of anything living!
I understand that everyone wishes to see through the speaker's mindset and what is he actually trying to propose. I also think that interviewer's questions are imperative for urging clarifications, developing contradictions and for a better understanding. I agree, Tom should have been more composed like he always is in all his interviews. More power to both.
Our consciousness exists both inside and outside the headset... that really made me happy.. I want my Dad, Uncle and all the dear beings whom we have lost physically to exist in a better place after death.. and I want to be re-united with my Dad again with continuity..
You will be with family members when you leave the earth without your physical body. That’s what I gathered watching many “near death experiences seeing heaven” testimonials on you tube
Get the book Hands of Light written by the physicist Barbara Brennan. Physicists know we are not physical or solid because atoms are electrical energy fields. Nobody dies because we are constantly being created as the images of our souls, which are electrical energy field beings that are creating US as THEIR images.
Does anyone know where I can find an interview with this amazing person so I can actually listen to him talk without being interrupted every time his thought process gets good? I don't think I have ever been more angry during an interview. If I was was this guest I would have gotten out of my chair and stormed off. Tom is, without question, the most disrespectful interviewer I have ever seen. But seriously though - I would love to listen to this guest if someone would let him talk.
Here's a link to a Ted Talk video where Hoffman presents a lecture (monologue), free from the annoyance of interruption. ruclips.net/video/oYp5XuGYqqY/видео.html
@@Miaphysite-ተውሃዶ-Orthodoxy -- I agree. Tom admitted as much. It is my observation that Tom asked some great questions the audience of viewers of this video may have had themselves ; so they were helpful in understanding the somewhat rambling discourse of the interviewee . When someone knows their subject in and out, up and down, they sometimes don't realize their listener is not grasping the concepts as well as he or she might with a bit of clarification. There was nothing going on in this conversation between the two that falls into improper conversational exchange; in fact it followed a normal conversational exchange when the listener sincerely wishes to understand. 👍
@@orvilleraposo7760 True, the true and false self are constructs of the headset. We've been at this for years trying solve the problem of perception using the very tool which is the cause of the problem. The headset will not allow us we will always find turtles all the way down. If by some chance one of us should be so lucky to see themselves and the world for what it realy is, I doubt they'll be able to articulate it. They'll go mad..! I think :)
Spiritbao Funny that I found your comment, like a needle in a haystack. I had never heard the term “turtles all the way down” until a couple hours ago, when Mark Manson said it in a video on self awareness. As someone who’s had many varied experiences I can’t explain, and neither can science, I nearly drove myself mad trying to understand them. From OBE’s with ET’s to feeling others at a distance physically via my “energy” body on a daily basis, (there is a form of telepathy that presents with this) to seeing past and future versions of myself and even hearing them speak to me; all of this in altered drug- free states, and much more...I paraphrase Terence McKenna paraphrasing J.B.S. Haldane: The universe is not only stranger than we suppose. It’s stranger than we can suppose.”
Right. Using concepts from within to explain a reality that doesn't exist annuls the premise. One would need to exit this dimension in order to observe it "objectively". Then again, once out, we might get to the realization that it's just not worth it. Oh no... I'm down the rabbit hole
@@rotorblade9508 is not one person's logic different from another's? Logic is also perceived and changes over time. My logical thinking is much different now than it was 10 years ago. Mathematics are an agreed upon perception we created over a thousand years ago. Look at the speed of light which isn't actually constant. We measure it against the metre then as the speed changes the metre measurement changes to keep the speed of light "constant" so the "logic" of mathematics here is lacking logic in my opinion as your measurement of one is altered by the other. It's circular measurements and isn't very logical however it makes things constant and makes the formulas uniform across the board. Logic is an illusion we do not truly know what logic is as we do not know what reality truly is. We can say that mathematics as it pertains to surface level or macro physical level is logical but once you get into quarks, spinners, light speed, things that are invisible to us we don't have the information to make logic out of that reality and our math breaks down.
@@gifmesome yes, however the study of logic is quite limited as it pertains to reality. It is only useful on the macro physical level of reality. It imo breaks down at the quantum level and certainly breaks down when getting into the fact that we can not see ultimate reality. Our senses do not allow for this and even our created instruments so far only extend our senses. We can not extend logic to something so unknown. This is of course my opinion and thinking and I can not prove it as we are discussing something so unknown.
I respect how Tom doesn't move on without understanding where this is going. This is the difference between someone who goes through a lecture and gets nothing out of it, or someone who asks the questions and learns something. Yes its annoying but look at 10:49 - 13:00. Mr. Hoffman keeps skipping over the details because they are so simple for him, but we needed that information milked out of him to be able to keep up. Great interview
Exactly. But there are at least 54 geniuses out there who TU'd the post that tells him to stop! One is even using caps to do it. This is appallingly rude, and I hope Tom understands that most people love his work and appreciate his contributions and observations.
@@deborahcurtis1385 that's right. If someone wants no interruption they can read or listed to Donald's books. It's fare more interesting to listen someone really trying to understand the matter. also there's the reason why Tom is an interviewer and not those 54 geniuses :)
The people watching ten minutes and leaving aren't appreciating the fact that the host is successfully making this accessible to people that don't have doctorates in the field.
BishopWraith I, for one, am wildly appreciative of exactly this. I didn’t find his interruptions too bothersome, I would have had to stop him to interject even more, just to be sure I was tracking what he was saying. I definitely need to watch this one a second time.
Are you sure? A lot of the so called minds on the web or cloud all seems very like each other. Originality is few and far in between. Unique would not exactly be what I’d use to describe the collective consciousness on the web right now.
I beg to differ with some of the comments.....I think Tom has done an admirable job during this interview. He has kept the conversation at a level some of us mere mortals (certainly myself) can understand. With respect, he has kept the horse from bolting.
@andrew 10 I agree. I perceived it more as a conversation than an interview with someone trying to understand. I have ADD, maybe Tom does as well. Do those of us that understand these so called ‘interruptions’ all experience attention deficit disorders and/or live with someone who does? 🤔😆
The actual reason Tom stated of this being a show is to have an authentic conversation in front of his viewers without quite the same level of manners and without a fear of challenging or questioning the others beliefs. Interrupting and pushing to get to a certain place in conversation is just part of it and Tom is the host so it serves him to do that. All we can do is stand bye for the ride and take the immense amounts of value out of this that are sitting there. I think this show is brilliant and so full of value and I think the saltiness about interruptions is decently misled with all respect! I have very much appreciation to Tom for letting all of us inside of his mind in a real raw conversation. So valuable thanks Tom!
That’s a good perspective my friend I sensed he’s trying to create that authentic vibe like rogan. And with the table facing each other. But my comments left on this thread still apply ahah
I was excited to watch this video and that it was so long because I wanted to learn more about Donald Hoffman, I couldn't make it past 11 minutes because of Tom's constant interruptions. a sign of a good interviewer is someone who listens to their guest. Tom would consistently ask a question and before Hoffman got even a third of the way into responding Tom would interrupt with another longer question. I wouldn't be surprised if the 11 minutes I watched was 80% Tom talking. It should've been the other way around. I'm grateful that this isn't the only interview with Donald Hoffman.
I couldn't finish the interview. Worst interviewer I've ever seen. Constantly interrupting the esteemed guests' narrative flow to needlessly pontificate. Save yourself a massive amount of time and just get the audiobook of Dr. Hoffman's OUTSTANDING work.
I think Tom did incredible job explaining for audience. There are so many scientific term and theory that needs to generalize for normal people to understand
@@pemikathiravanitkul889 Tom didn't need to explain for the audience though. He could have just said "elaborate please" or "I didnt qute get that part" and Dr Hoff would have presented a Leyman level analogy himself.
Don’t ask if “there’s another way to say that” if you didn’t even allow him to finish his explanation the first time. Lay off the adderall, Tom. Still love you. 💕
I so agree! This is hard to listen to because of Tom's incessant interruptions. Hoffman's information would be much easier to understand were he allowed to give full, uninterrupted explanations.
It took me like 4hours to complete this interview.... pausing, reversing and just taking time to digest the knowledge nuggets. Thanks Tom, the questions were on point... this is deep D. Hoffman
Tom was deeply affected by what Hoffman was wrestling with in a way that I am deeply sympathetic with. Passionately caring about ideas and hitting the pause button when the agent is spun out by a curve ball is a sign of respect, a way of saying "you've lost me" or "I am lost" or asking "am I lost?" or asking "have you lost me?" is not disrespect, it is deep trust that Hoffman is wanting to be understood by Tom who is our surrogate in this interview. I've spent probably about 6 hours rewinding and regroking and have only watched maybe 2/3 of the interview so far. Tom's desire to understand is beautifully matched by Hoffman's desire to be understood. This passion for sharing the truth and the discovery of the truth (however limited the agencies interacting and becoming a larger agency and even includes us in a broader agency) is to me sacred ground. These men both expanded the heart of the universe as I know it. Many thanks. Old Beth
Fuck! Annoying? I couldn’t get through the interview. There were so many interruptions they could barely stay on a train of thought. Worst interview I’ve ever seen!
I wouldn't be TOO proud of that quote friend.. Heisenberg is on a LONG list of very smart people who also can believe completely unsupported ideas.. Heisenberg's LIFELONG fascination with Eastern religions instilled in him a cognitive bias to LOOK for validating connections with QM... Sometimes he needed the persuasion of influential Taoist teachers to "See the light".. Fellow physicists of his time, LIKE today, find these ideas more a topic of curious amusement then serious insight.. Of course one can find dubious connections in ANY book of symbolism and parables, but ASSUMPTIVE knowledge is the antithesis of the scientific method and best LEFT to philosophers.. A humble opinion friend..Peace.
PS.. Most physicists today are scientific materialists, and DO think materialism correctly describes the way our cosmos works. GAPS in our knowledge must be filled, tweaks made, BUT the notion that theres some deep layer of truth LIKE the simulation Theory, or any OTHER unverifiable, fantastical claim is rubbish... NO credible evidence? Then the claim isn't credible.
Is this whole interview just the Tom guy talking over the other guy who is the expert? He should just deliver a monologue, he loves his own voice. Let the other guy speak and shut up dude
jewels anderson the show is called “Conversations with Tom” and on these talks they converse and share thoughts back and forth. Tom has another show called Impact Theory where he just interviews and the guests take up 90% or more of the time. On this one Tom is actually participating in the conversation and that’s why it feels different. He wanted to be able to go back and forth and explore his own ideas as well.
Having accidentally ingested a very large dose of psilocybin mushrooms many years ago, I can attest to the utter terror of the "ego death" part of the experience. It was an extraordinarily profound experience that left me forever changed, for the better. I would recommend anyone with an interest in such things to take the plunge. It's only fear and once your ego is dead there's nothing left of 'you' to be terrified any more. The peak of that barely lasts a couple of hours. Just don't do it alone or in tricky surroundings. Have a sedative on hand if you're prone to panic attacks, like I am. This was my first ever experience with psychedelics. There was nothing to stave off the initial extreme fear for me, nor did I know until too late I'd taken far too much. But afterwards, I saw the torment as a very very small price to pay for such a rare and immensely valuable experience. Looking forward to hearing about it if either of you ever try it.
I took my first proper acid dose last night, not ego death but very close and I did experience exactly this, and best part is, I took more again and now listening to this, and it's just mind-blowing altogether :)
@@lucydayLucida hey, it was a very good therapy for the starters. I was going through hell recently and this really helped me a lot. And yes I saw the fractals and beautiful stuff getting lost walking home on a street I know. It was amazing. But I see I will need to really prepare and take a larger one after a month. I’m going for the hero dose next time. ;)
@@heartfullyhonest If it was good therapy you got your money's worth. I never got any acid good enough to break through on. It was blue meanie mushrooms that did it. I ate 10 freshly picked. It was my first time and later I found out 3 would have been a strong dose, especially for someone as skinny as I am. Let us know how it goes.
I can not grasp the idea because I have to listen that is in Tom’s mind. Tom, take a sip of water and keep it in your mouths until your interlocutor end the idea
You interview him, you get to ask the questions. Perhaps Tom’s spreading awareness of the concept while trying to understand it himself, but probing is more often than not a tactic used by interviewers to prompt a deeper explanation specifically for the benefit of a wider range of viewers. Meanwhile, you’re receiving the information via a free RUclips video.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This interview is why i watch Tom's videos. You sir bring the obscure thinking out there to the relative mainstream and i could never thank you enough for it.
That's exactly the conclusion I kept coming back to. I was hearing some of the same concepts I hear my geeky pastor expand on. I'll have to get this video to my pastor, he would love it.
Damn, I’ve listened to a few other DH interviews and this my favorite so far. I didn’t get the vibe Tom was being overly interruptive, many of his questions I found myself nodding along thinking “yeah I was wondering that myself" and got DH to describe his theory in contexts I hadn’t heard before. So thanks for that 👍
This took me three days to watch so I could really absorb it and I'm so shook, this was amazing!!! Also, Conversations with Tom is my favorite content you've produced thus far.💕
I've noticed a large number of people in the comments claiming that Tom interrupts Hoffman too much and that doing that doesn't allow Hoffman to finish his thoughts. There are two problems with this 1) A large part of this perception is simply the fact that Hoffman replies to the person he's talking with frequently with "Right" or "mmhmm" or "yes" and very quickly-this is just one of his speech patterns that indicate he's following what the other person is saying. (I've talked to Hoffman in person, and it doesn't feel like he's constantly trying to talk and you're interrupting him when you also can see what his facial and body language is indicating--that he's merely following what you're saying after each sentence in your articulation) 2) It's critical that Tom stops Hoffman as Hoffman is explaining a concept because Hoffman's theory takes a great deal of understanding in terms of the individual components and important differences between what the theory entails and what intuitively makes sense. And the best part is that Hoffman most likely doesn't mind those interruptions--but rather encourages them! He's an educator as well as an intelligent scientist and it's important to him that the person he's talking to understands what he's talking about. Yes, his speech patterns might make it seem like Tom is interrupting him but what's actually occurring is this: Tom is communicating his interpretation of what he was just told by Hoffman back to Hoffman to make sure that he--and us, the viewers--truly understand what Hoffman just said. Conscious realism and the Interface Theory of Perception use analogies to contrast our interface with true reality and what makes this discussion so difficult is that the analogies that are used ARE and can only be from our interface in the first place! :) This is why it's important that Tom stops Hoffman to make sure that he truly understands what Hoffman is explaining, and if you're listening carefully enough, your intuition should probably be challenged to the point where you need to pause the video and make sure that you understand what is being communicated as well. - Cheers, I hope everyone has a great day!
I do recognize that one of Tom's functions here is to try to bring things down to the average listener/watcher's level, but I think what bothers me about is that he doesn't even let Hoffman get a complete idea onto the table - it would be better if he'd do that, and then go back and systematically dissect it with a series of questions. The more frequent interruptions tend to cause the conversation to diverge in some cases, so by the time you reach a major topic change you're not even close to being on the same "page" you started that section out on. Also, it's CLEAR that it's not just an odd person or two tossing this "interruption accusation" - it's almost the only thing people are commenting on. EVERYONE saw it. I've seen Tom do this to other guests as well - I think it's just an aspect of his personality - he's a pushy, alpha kind of guy. Dan Cawley posted a comment where he used the phrase "learn to match someone's energy." I think that puts a pin in it really well. When I first ran across Tom I initially found him enjoyable, but now I rarely watch him anymore because of how common this behavior is.
Sigh... to the interviewer: Let the guys talk; he is the reason I started watching this! You interrupt too much, let the guy finish his sentence at least.
@Robert Fisher Lol, he is talking about reality in that we only have 5 senses. The most important he is talking about is eyesight. And through evolution, we would ONLY see things that help us survive. Anything that has no use to us, or does not harm us, our brain would be programmed to ignore. Thus there could be things flourishing all around us, we just don't see or interact with it. It is beyond our limited senses. The speaker had to turn what I just wrote into over 2 hours to explain it. But, yes, I know you were being funny.
I was starting to get annoyed too , he needs to chill a little bit and listen a little bit more , I found that poor guy having to re-explained the same thing over again form multiple angles to help him understand.
It's hard to have an informed two way conversation about the subject in this video. Mostly because it's super rare to find anybody who is well versed in the subject. So cut him some slack bro he probably had no idea what to say at first.
OMG this is hands down the most amazing goosebump discussion. Life changing. The information just dropped in and the light went off not on! I can't shake the feeling there's nothing back there, it's all out front! close your eyes, so you see grey right? now try looking out the BACK of your head, eyes- that's the biggest reveal. there's absolutely nothing
Before we signed up for this simulation we understood we would not be aware of the simulation. I believe that was part of the draw. Life is somehow boring so we fell asleep into a simulation. Maybe to pass time...maybe to entertain us during cryo-sleep...
@@izman20 That's the real question. Why would we put ourselves into a simulation like this? Something like "no pain no gain"? Next to wonder what the gain would be, if we are willing to go through so much pain to get it.
Tom is challenging concepts at specific times so that the foundation is laid right for a real discussion. I think without interruptions, Hoffman could have the tendency to spew 15 new concepts out in one sentence. Tom needs to balance the viewers and Hoffman and his own curiosity so that a commonality can be built on before the conversation advances so rapidly it just becomes sensationalism. I definitely see what your saying... but if you look at Tom's excitement and energy, I believe he's trying to build a common ground so that the conversation can grow; not cutting it down to inject his own opinions. Towards the last half he lets Hoffman speak way more.
This is called 'Conversations with Tom', not 'Tom listening to his guest'. Conversations are two-sided. If he wants to jump in and speak he has every right to do so. One shouldn't mistake Tom for JUST being an interviewer. He clearly has a lot of theories of his own which we would only hear during these conversations.
I’m probably not going to articulate this well but here I go. I find the concept of our “headset” as some sort of an interface between us and the “matrix code” ,similar to the idea of “a bubble of perception” if you will, and we are all born into it and continue to reinforce with the specific way we perceive reality. This idea is presented in the Castaneda book with a shaman named Don Juan😮😮 The cool thing to me is that in the book, “Don Juan” tells you how to break through it intensionally and all that. I also think its pretty wild how a concept that comes up in ball tripping shamanism can be similar to a concept proposed by a strict scientist. Named Dr Donald Huffan! Thanks so much for this awesome interview.
It’s like he read my 2003 book “The Textbook of the Universe: the Genetic Ascent to God”. Maybe he did. I used to email him before his book came out and after that he just stopped. Unfortunately I moved to California partly to work with him. So sad. In my book, I cite Godels Incompleteness theorem, and have a chapter “Going beyond our evolutionary world view” where I show that space and time are constructed by the brain. People who know me and my thinking always say “the world needs to catch up” yeah. I left graduate school to write my theory and traveled the world to present it, but people ironically had little discernment to understand that I was getting at the answers. So I wrote the book. So many researchers in the last 20 years have made careers on small aspects of what I wrote, but there is a larger theory in there. The movie “The Matrix” was an uncanny synchronicity to my thinking. So is Donald Hoffman. I actually show what synchronicity is and I proposed a new introspective statistical methodology to show the patterns of synchronistic events in life at the University of Arizona, and approximately 4 years later, Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona actually did the research and statistical analysis and ranking of synchronicity I proposed and predicted and found results more significant than most results in science. At like the .00000000000000000001 level (roughly showing what I mean, not the exact number). So my theory predicts. And it explains. And it unified. And it is information based. Why is no one listening? Because I never finished my degree-and people pay attention to credentials because they don’t think. I made an overestimate of how many people are like me and would recognize the explanatory and predictive power. -they are not thinkers like I am. A lot of them are not really after the best truth they can find about everything. They just want a career describing a piece of the puzzle. I am describing the picture on all the pieces when you put them together. I am increasingly realizing that nearly no one tries to see that aspect of reality. And now I am thinking that they can’t. Once in a while people really get part of the ideas. I met Jordan Peterson 20 years ago and he used a lot of my stuff in his classes. We hit it off immediately because he tries to see the big picture view on the pieces. I was one of the first people to read his awesome “Maps of Meaning” and he definitely gets that aspect of my thought. Also Francis Crick and I hit it off and both knew the importance of MEANING-which I take apart logically to show the flaws in our world view and assumptions. I definitely think beyond this reality and I have found it frustrating in the extreme that in the past people couldn’t see that. It’s changing now. Love Donald Hoffman. He gets this interface part and dives in better than most. None of these people can see the implications of their puzzle piece. It’s like they have blinders on. Tom, if you really want an interview, you should bring me on. 🤷♀️👍🏻 I will blow your mind. Seriously. If you want proof of what I say, I can email you a picture of Jordan Peterson and I meeting. Also, ironically I am transgender.
No one listening has nothing to do with no degree. In Abraham Hicks language, you have a 'vibration' of no one listening, so that is what the universe delivers. Your book is too long and was written with that vibration. When I read Neal Walsch's 'Conversations with God' I was gripped by the first page and there was no question of me not finishing it - and recommending it. Another much shorter book might give you traction.
Have your own youtube channel and explain it all there. People will come and learn from your insights. You don't need to limit your teachings to an interview with Tom. Do what expands you and the rest will fall in. Just teach the world to wake up the many. Note that one Vedic scripture already talks about this and they define life as a set of 112 processes not as a religion, or science. It's all a big quantum life ancient knowledge that now we started to get a grasp of.
"So high you can't get over it. So low you can't get under it." There is no answering nor explaining nor understanding any and all of this outside of GOD consciousness- omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence. The Ultimate and Original Conscience Agent...
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@@miguelchippsinteligente6072 Jesus said whoever knows himself knows God, what he was literally saying is that we are all God. Thrs only one Consiousness manifesting itself into different forms. Thrs no separate person too.
This explains a dream I had once. I dreamed that the windows in Will Smith's house were made of sugar instead of glass. I believed it so much and wanted to prove it that I waited for him to leave one evening and then broke in and used a popsicle stick to verify my theory (yay dreams). I was very happy to find out I was correct and as I was leaving his home the police drove up and arrested me. Apparently I had set off a silent alarm when I broke in that even my own brain didn't know about. The same brain making up the story of the dream itself, the alarm, the participants (itself included!), and everything else! It sounds silly but I woke up and then couldn't go back to sleep all night due to pondering the implications of that. On the surface it seemed like it was just my brain making up the dream as it went along but the more I thought about it the deeper the meaning behind the contradiction became and I finally just chalked it up to being something I'd never understand. This was the first time in my life I suspected there was more going on than I was aware of.
I dunno. Sounds very deep and thought-provoking. But I think you might be missing one crucial component and its implications... Why were you dreaming about the composition of the widows in Will Smith’s house?
Orrr, was your brain simply doing it's ultimate job and keeping you safe and 'fit' for the reality in which you exist? You can't have the triumph of the sugar window theory when you solve the problem in a criminal manner.
I was 3 the first time I doubted the reality of this reality. The thought occurred to me that this may be a dream, being dreamed by someone other than myself. What a dream it's been.
Lol yep. I get that. I used to constantly sit in the back seat of my parents car utterly questioning reality as a kid. Zoning out into solipsistic thinking, even wondering if I said a thought out loud or not. I would get into these meditative almost trance-like states and I would swear life wasn't real. Life as an only child. Ha!
Before I was 10 years old I knew that ‘time’ could not be correct. I constantly battled with there being a beginning and an end which I thought wasn’t possible, I felt sure time as a concept was false.
Tom, thank you for being persistent in your interviews regarding clarifying a word/term or another linguistic item that needs specificity to fully understand what a guest is saying! As others have likely said, many of us are probably thinking the same! Great guest. Love the show 🤗
Hahah I just realized who the interviewer reminds me of... Doug from ‘The Hangover’ 😆😆 Likely just his voice as I haven’t really be watching. I appreciate his rather ‘frequent questions’ as I have ADD and tend to suffer with the same problem deemed as ‘interrupting’. It is more so that I will not remember what to ask if I don’t ask immediately. He is truly trying to understand. For me, the majority of these concepts are completely new so I appreciate him asking questions I would never even think to ask. I also don’t think the man he is interviewing is bothered. I think he enjoys answering his questions. When someone is so highly knowledgeable on a given subject, they typically find it rewarding to have the ability to have an educated answer to such a wide variety of questions. Just my thoughts.
A good interviewer knows when to stop talking about themselves. Tom isn't there yet. He asks good questions but then talks about himself the whole time instead of waiting for his guest's response.
@First name Last name Anyone can get behind a microphone and interrupt someone, but apparently not all people can complete the whole form when they open a google account
First name Last name oh honey, IAM Behring a microphone and in front of a camera and M Fernandez and Amanda Gilroy are spot on. Tom isn’t there yet. He’s far too self absorbed in his questions. Asking a guest to “dummy down” their point is a fault that an interviewer is fully accountable for and 9/10 times is because they have not done their research and don’t know. He truly asked and answered his own questions more than he allowed his guest to speak. Interrupting or interjecting is what it is called when properly done, is only used to focus a speaker that is off their line of thought. That was not warranted here anymore than Toms foul language which is the lowest denominator in any interviewer. Rule 1- know your audience. EPIC FAIL Tom. SMH.
@@tovahromanov7414 Tom is well-researched and is often praised as a great interviewer. This is not an interview. Check out his show Impact Theory for that. This is Conversations with Tom. He does these not just for you, but also to learn for himself. This topic was of great interest to him, and his priority was to understand it thoroughly. This also helped me to understand it better as well. You should think of these discussions as his personal talks that we have the privilege of listening in on.
So WE - and our perception of “separation” from all this - WE - are the real miracle here! What we perceive as spirituality is really the prevalent “Normal” in the universe. All the universes!!
The real reality is already there, from the instant the universe was created to the instant it will be destroyed. Consciousness observes partially and creates the ilusión of space time. Locating perception in the present moment and ignoring the rest of the complete multidimensional panorama. Otherwise nothing would make sense. Is The universe is a dreaming brain? Are we aspects of it? Are we within a universal mind?
How about we are immersed and saturated within a holodeck mind that is constantly creating images. We are some of these images proven by how fast quarks/atoms spin which is billions of times a second. We don't see this constant creation of us because it is spinning billions of times a second. This is a HUGE constant process we are experiencing. Energy always spins and vibrates and oscillates in the now. There can't be a past or future. The thought images we have now we let go. They move onward like scenes in a movie. This reality is a scene where nobody dies because they were not physical to begin with. Nobody ever murders anyone else. Proven by how super, super fast subatomic particles are spinning/vibrating/oscillating and popping in and out of what is called us. This creation also includes everything else. Rocks, diamonds, etc. etc. These are images. Physicists say that atoms are electrical energy fields. Doesn't this one sentence say everything?
There is a contradiction in your logic though. If space time is an illusion then there is no continuity. If you want to have consciousness outside of space time you have to put it outside of the universe itself as well. I might have misunderstood your point though since I'm not a native speaker.
@@soseN08 just because things have the ability to move and decay doesn’t mean that proves time exists. Its just a label we have used to measure it. There thats the whole video....
We are holograms within a holodeck. I read that in the books Hands of Light and The Holographic Universe and the Seth books and An Ascension Handbook. That is proven by how fast subatomic particles spin, meaning nothing can be solid or physical. So.......we are super complicated holograms of light. What YOU are not taught is that we are 100% light. The book The Quantum World contains these words: "magically bursting forth are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons". These 3 points of light are the corners of a triangle that is the first image that begins creating us. WE are light immersed within light. The difference between dimensions is speed and vibration. Just like cell phone signals all have to be set differently so they don't interfere with each other, dimensions are set differently. Read about OBEs or out of body experiences. There are many books and classes available to learn. This reality is an OBE. They all are. Nothing is ever destroyed. No reason to. Energy changes shapes and flows as images. Conscious energy is the waves of energy and light we are saturated within. We eat and breathe and think with these waves. These waves of light are constantly creating us. We are what they are, which is intelligence.
This is absolute madness! If we're in a simulation everyone should be able to bend reality. From the creativity that our Brain produces. As well eliminate everything that we call natural or organic. Life and death sickness and health. Should be absilete. I call bs
I dunno about ya'all, but this has been the most fascinating, shocking, eye-opening, thought-challenging interview so far. Thank you, Tom, the people you interview are amazing! Thank you for the opportunity to learn so much, for your great questions and your hard work!
Tom you really needed to let Hoffman speak longer without interruption. I get that you have questions but this interview became so dis-jointed with all your interruptions that something was lost for me. I went from really enjoying the submissions from Hoffman to just writing this at the half way point and now I’m moving on - All you had to do was listen and I’d have been hooked till the end.
I find it amazing how many people get so frustrated at Tom’s interview strategies, a.k.a. “interrupting”. I never feel like he interrupts, but more so properly cuts in when more clarification is needed for the average person to understand, and in a certain way. I feel like Tom is outstanding at asking the right questions at the right time.
But it feels to me like he doesn't even let some people get a complete thought out before he interrupts. As though he can only hold a dozen or so words in his head at any one time. I'd like it better if he let the guest talk for a while, to cover some particular point in some more or less complete way, and then went back and dissected it.
when your comprehension is challenged it is more important to clarify the subject in order to make it objective. a interview is a debate that is not combative in nature.
@@QueenxChico are you aware that you cannot have a deep conversation without interrupting some one in mid stride? why? well if you are sincere about fathoming the context of the conversation you would do your due diligence to seek clarity when clarity is needed. if you misunderstand the meaning from the concept you risk repeating the same conversation. the world has yet to see a mind capable of practicing perfect reason with perfect logic.
Yes Tom is trying to understand and clarify but he clearly isn't understanding it as most viewers are not so just learn a bit of patience and listen or don't interview someone who makes you feel insecure because you have little idea of what he is saying and your interruptions are not coming across well
I wonder if Donald ever heard of the Erin Valenti case? She was a Silicon Valley entrepreneur who was found dead in her car under extremely mysterious circumstances, and, before being found, she had made calls to loved ones about how what we know of as reality is all a, “ thought experiment”, and, “we’re in the matrix!”. Pretty eerie and fascinating simultaneously.
Great comment. Her death really shook me, in regards to this theory and the concepts Donald talks about. There is no explanation for her death other than a shut down. Her autopsy showed no foul play, no drugs/alcohol…her husband is a psychiatrist and said Erin had no psychiatric disorders or breaks ever. Completely interesting. Thank you for bringing her up. Thought experiment. Wow. Just so much to think about.
Watched the entire video and loved every bit. I have been doing deep research on the simulation theory and you asked Don every question that I had, so thank you for this! The more research that I do, and the more theories that I create on my own make it seem as though we are certainly in a simulation. It's harder to prove it wrong than it is to prove it right.
Hi. One of the greatest mysteries in my opinion is lucid dreaming. For me personally it was like "holy shit, It's another reality" So what's the base reality??
One of the greatest mysteries in my opinion is lucid dreaming. For me personally it was like "holy shit, It's another reality" So what's the base reality??
I believe these theories would explain why a person who has a stroke would change personality. My husband has had 11 strokes, and with each one has changed to another person.....the loss of memory of experiences....etc within the brain. So his Conscience Agents keep changing. In practical application, might this perhaps help those who have strokes and dementia? Sounds like it. Thank you for this interview, to you both, you have helped me understand better...what I already had observed with my headset. .....I realize that your questions are there to help the average person understand. Its a conversation, not a lecture. I prefer the conversation, as you gave it to us. TY
@@lesliehenderson7866 I felt the same when I was about 6 years old. My answer to him was... We don't really know for sure but we are all real to each other and that's all that really matters, this is your life so make it what you want.
So when your kid was born it was just the unboxing of a new VR headset for a conscious agent... And we're just a tutorial for them while at the same time running our own VR??
Thanks, Tom, for this interesting interview. I think the "answer" to WHY all of these "consciousnesses" have infinite experiences might be that God (or "the one Consciousness" or "All there is" "Unity Consciousness" or whatever you want to call The ONE that includes everything) had to split to know itself. Being a singular unified consciousness, it could merely exist but it could never know itself; it was just pure awareness with no "other". Thus, all experiences are "the one" splitting to know itself in infinite ways...forever (since the "meeting and parting" possibilities are literally infinite). That includes everything in the phenomenal world: the bird on the branch, the wave hitting the shore, two people touching each other...everything that happens (or "seems" to happen). No two moments are the same, everything constantly changes so "God" can know itself in infinite ways.
I absolutely love it when modern science catches up to yogic philosophy. Tom can you please interrupt less. At least allow your guest complete a whole sentence.
What about the great scientist Tesla, who had "intuitive" dreams where mathmatical equations and actual structural blueprints where realized while he slept. Also, there must be more to measure the success of a life lived than just the passing on of genes and high fitness payoffs. He fathered no children and died penniless. Still his life was worthy and his contribution to science invaluable.
This entire book is being written while under the influence of 2 grams of psilocybin mushrooms taken every six hours. I have been taking these mushrooms to treat cluster headaches that I developed when I was 20 years old. I tried every treatment method possible but mushrooms were the only thing that brought me relief. I believe the reason these mushrooms are giving me relief is because it kills the colonies of candida in our stomachs by outcompeting it on a cellular level. I have a theory that the yeast candida sets up colonies inside your stomach that attach to your nervous system and are able to influence mood, personality, intelligence and overall health. I believe that candida enters our system through the use of alcohol, particularly hard alcohol. When yeast produces alcohol it goes dormant, but it doesn’t die. When we consume candida it enters our stomachs where it is able to come back to life and set up mycelial networks in our stomachs that attach to our central nervous system. Our stomachs speak to our brains via the central nervous system and I believe candida sets up a mycelial network that takes over our central nervous system like a parasite. I believe this parasite is responsible for a range of negative emotions including depression, anger, jealousy, resentment, possessiveness, violence, the need for destruction, anxiety and every negative human emotion. It is primarily responsible for fear and skepticism which you are experiencing right now while reading this book. Hard alcohol is called spirits because ancient people realized that it contained an intelligence. The use of plant medicine was able to free peoples minds from the grip of hard alcohol. This knowledge was lost to time, but this is the the theory that I believe. I believe that candida can mutate cells and is responsible for cancer. The reason science hasn’t been able to detect candida poisoning is that our entire society is suffering from candida poisoning and it is clouding our judgment as a society. In addition I believe when we try to pull a single cell of candida out of our bodies it dies when exposed to oxygen. To study the entire colony of candida in our systems we need further understanding of the way our central nervous system functions. I believe with further investigation my theory will be proven correct. I would urge the entire scientific community and world to band together to be able to test this theory with the use of the scientific method and hard data. I believe the reason society is so afraid of psilocybin mushrooms is because candida is influencing our thoughts and telling us that it will kill the colonies of candida in our bodies. This is why mushrooms smell so bad and taste so bad. Candida is able to control our thoughts by attaching to neurons in our brains via a branched mycelial network. Our brains are a branched mycelial network and evolved from fungus. This is why our bodies are mostly foreign microorganisms. Intelligence stems from networks of communication and candida has its own intelligence. This is why it’s able to influence our thoughts, the parasitic fungus is using it’s intelligence to control our thoughts and perception of reality. I believe candida is responsible for many of the terrible concepts that have been thought up over the course of human existence such as religion, war, slavery, ownership, currency, economics, nuclear weapons, sexual taboos, marriage, country and racial divisions, racism and every negative concept that is destroying our planet and dividing our species. I believe that these terrible ideas were all thought up while in a drunken state. Alcohol is dissociative and I believe that when you are drunk candida is literally taking over your body. This is also the reason you black out when you drink, the candida has total control at that point. The intelligence behind candida is obviously malevolent and seems to be hell bent on destroying the planet. I believe as a society we are all collectively suffering from candida poisoning. The reason I am able to see this information is because of the psilocybin that I am consuming. Psilocybin mushrooms contain their own intelligence and it appears to be peaceful, serene and hell bent on saving the planet and our species from extinction. I believe Vladimir Putin is suffering from extreme candida poisoning and it is causing him to put events in motion events that will lead to nuclear annihilation and the end of life on this planet as we know it. I believe the psilocybin mushrooms I am eating are trying to save the world from extinction. I feel possessed while writing a book but I realize now that it is the intelligence of the psilocybin showing me the true nature of reality. The side effects of consuming psilocybin have given me clarity of thought and mind. They have also removed all negative emotions that I once possessed and I have never felt more peaceful and intelligent. I want to save the world and humanity from extinction but I now know my thoughts and actions are being driven by a mushroom that is trying to save society from an evil candida colony that is corrupting our minds, bodies and souls. I also meditate and I believe that it has given me the awareness to receive a message from the psilocybin that has given me answers to some fundamental questions about reality and the nature of life. I would ask the reader to please and kindly keep an open mind while reading this book. I would ask you to please abandoned your preconceived notions of social structures, morality, religion, sexuality, aliens, the origins of life, physics, drug policies, health and fitness, plant medicine, what happens when we die, fungus the fungal family and psilocybin mushrooms, war, poverty, economics, climate change, currency, blockchain technology, artificial intelligence, political structures, ownership, food production systems, psychology, love, consciousness, evolution, marriage and domestic partnerships. This book will cover all of these topics in detail and will hopefully usher in a new era of peace, love and harmony with nature. I know that many people will be skeptical of this theory but you should seriously ask yourself if that is that candida poisoning effecting your mind and judgement. It's ok to accept that we don't know everything. I accept that I don't know everything and am simply offering up theories that need to put to the test using the scientific method. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and we need to collectively gather proof to test these theories.
This guy is the real deal. So nice to see the geeks/academics catching up w/the spiritual master types and being able to put it (consciousness) into a different language. Fascinating....great job as usual Tom 🙋🏻♂️
Great interview Tom! If I only heard this without your refining questions I wouldn’t have understood. Interrupting him was essential. I appreciate that you’re already drawn to this and understand it enough to ask intelligent questions. Thank you!! And thank you Donald for your research and choosing to share it via podcasts for laymen. This is fascinating and validating! It’s the perfect episode to share with “hard science” folks who think the idea of life being consciousness and things here not being quite what they seem is “off” or simply against science. Will be looking at more of Donald’s work to explore this!!
Maintaining a marriage despite having a deeper understanding of reality.... It's called "compartmentalization".. it gives the ability to FUNCTION enjoying life as a "creature on Earth" despite having the insight to see that we really AREN'T (constrained by that notion). I have a hard time sometimes with compartmentalization... I get REALLY bored with the "everyday" conversations... so I either shut up entirely or risk "clearing the room" at the party by bringing up "red pill" conversations. I'd love to party with Dr. Don!
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I wish dr. Hoffman would be able to finish more sentences without being interrupted by Tom :-)
Yea that kinda got annoying. I really wanted to hear what he had to say.
Yeah , I find that somewhat annoying, I think he's got his ego in the way.
@@stevemiller887 yup n seems like ego ruins more than it offers.
The good news is, other ppl seemed to have interviewed Donald Hoffman. Much better interviews where they actually Listened to him and asked questions when he was finished explaining each theory. I found them on RUclips, by typing in his name.
Cheers!😄🖖🏾
darn it I wish he could have kept quiet but I think it was done on purpose. It was a strategy.
Exactly, couldn't finish the interview even tho I really want to hear the conversation. Interruptions too annoying
I read a lot of complaints about the interviewer and his supposed "interruptions". But imo he does a great job, let me explain. I listened to a lot of DH's videos, and I "somewhat" got his claims. But a bunch of questions popped up in my mind and I'd like to deepen my understanding. Tom is taking DH out of a monologue and putting him into a dialogue, jumping in when things get too abstract for a layperson and forcing him to re- articulate his thoughts by using an alternative explaining technique. Sometimes a deeper understanding comes just by hearing an information packed in another way. Tom is not interrupting DH from arrogance, he is helping to disassemble DH's thoughts into smaller chunks, which are far better digestible than the longer, uninterrupted "flow". But that's maybe just me...
im with you......needed to digest before swallowing more
To be honest I think too many people were critical of Tom, I watched it while in bed, I slept woke, slept and woke again several times, I plan on listening to the whole interview again when I up and about doing other things. It is very deep and difficult for me to understand, I don't have a degree in quantum science or mathematics so I have found Toms interruptions useful to help me get a grasp of what the professor was talking about, he helped keep him at a level for the common person. I really enjoyed the rant towards the end of the interview where Tom related to drug use good and bad trips, how he was afraid of messing with the unknown, how his wife likes the way he is, not over intelligent etc. I admit I haven't seen all the interview but I think Tom did a good enough job if not great, definitely not as bad as so many accused him of, I think he drew better explanations out of the professor. Its a weird world/life if you go to deep, I'm not sure we need to know this stuff it could make our lives less meaningful rather than real, sometimes I wish it were all a illusion because we can take it all very serious on the other hand some don't take anything seriously, so why all the grabbing for wealth and fame, putting others down etc. I think if we could learn to be better to each other less competitive more love less hate it would be a good place to start. Peace to all and let God be God or whatever you prefer to believe if that makes you kinder to others in this short journey we call life we all have to live through like it or not.
@@martinmuldoon603 Please listen to Purush sukta : Creation of Universe; as per Hindu Vedic scripture, Rig Ved Sanskrit shlokas with English translation. Namaste
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Agreed. I'm guessing that a lot of the people who are complaining about the interruptions are looking more for flow than they are an in depth understanding. Whatever ambiguity comes with hearing someone speak about such a complicated topic is something people will generally want to feel comfortable with letting go. I think it's just in our nature to prefer the path of least resistance, and in this case that's basically just having some stepping stones laid out for our imagination. The interviewer's questions forces more rigor on the part of DH and by proxy, on the listener.
You guys are, with any and all due respect, ignoring the thing the 20th Century was wasted on, and talking about your emotional assessment of some you tube tw@t'$ "performance" in comparison with Hoffman, who grew up in a weekly meeting with Francis Crick and the Fathers of brain science. Tom is nobody, he yaps to smarter people, and the internet mirror neuron models themselves AS Tom talking to a minor God.
I critique and attempt to curate the work of "important" people, and they ignore real challenges to keep being themselves and doing what they do. Max Tegmark has pondered life in 1 dimension mathematically, and he didn't answer me about COVID, a full data structure in non-retro RNA. I think now that it was always here, and simply reshaped and reformed into the various pandemics of RNA nature that have been recorded. I adore the Oxford Sweating Sickness, as one who has always dealt with night sweats, sometimes of Biblical proportions. You ever wake up in a cool room with a gallon or so of sweat covering everything? Wu Han, the Chinese B@t F!_!cker might also be called Azazel, from the Bible.
The next time ANYONE uses the word Demon or Demonology with you, show them this video and see if they are qualified to continue using it.
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I believe our bodies are our VR headsets and when our souls leave our bodies then you see what's outside of that.... Full consciousness
I think that's somewhat correct, but there's so many different remote "religions" and spiritual myths that all have origin stories that seem to act as instructions for those people and how for them to act in this world.
I think it's less a "vr headset" and more like a training stage or a pupae stage for a soul.
Maybe the greater being(s) who created us uses this small time vet and create decent people who can live in harmony and without evil things in the ultimate levels of the afterlife.
As for those who don't pass as being decent people, maybe they just get cycled (reincarnated) here until they have been broken down by life and remade into decent people, then they can go back home.
Time dilation theory has been proven so it could be that this entire simulation is taking place in moments as some sort of training exercises for aliens, and even if we spent 4000 lifetimes here learning the required lessons in their society (like how to give up violent sentiments and be a truly community oriented person who isn't materialistic and selfish and so forth), maybe it's like their right of passage into becoming a true citizen of the higher light.
Whatever it takes I guess.
@@inhalefarts very true!
I had no bizzniz with anything to do with these types of topics. Im a cdl driver, mechanic, electrical mechanical engineer, jack of all trades..except spiritulism and religion..was right up there with politics when it came to me avoiding argumentative subjects. Until I experienced a full blown unexpected kundalini Awakening. The whole shabang in 3 months. Vibration started in lower root chakra and rose up through all of them, activated third eye and crown and went on an indescribable journey. Hadno clue what was happening or where i was..but i def went somewhere, met someone who showed me many things and blessed me with many new gifts and insights. It is too powerful for me to ignore or deny. I have changed..i will never be the same. As hard as it was /is to learn and cope with this new truth and these new gifts..i wouldnt trade it for anything. I know exactly what people mean when they say "they found God".
@@justincredible5108 What a beautiful gift you've been given!!
I had a near death experience, but my heart never stopped. I was in the ocean taken by a rip tide.. unable to swim out of it, I just let it take me. It had me facing up, pushing my back down to the rocks and sand...scraping my back every time I hit bottom and then pushing me closer to the surface but still without reach. It was then that I could see the sun shining through the water and thought... this is how I am going to die.. I can't believe that this is how it ends...it can't be, I didn't even have children yet!! And a calm came over me, like something or someone was there..telling me it was going to be OK. So I tried to swim one last time and I was finally able to get out. I was far into the ocean but I was able to stand on something, a sand mound maybe.... and thank goodness cause I had absolutely no strength to swim back. After about 10 minutes of standing there staring back at my friends on shore, and reflecting on what I just went through. I decided to make my trip back...exhausted and my back was completely scraped up. My friends said they called for help and thought I was dead. They were looking for my parent's number on my phone.
Like you.... I will never look at life the same way or believe that this is it. There is definitely something bigger than us..
@@justincredible5108 sounds Amazing. You say God, maybe your Enlighted self, instead. Full Consciousness? Are you coping comfortably? 3 months is very fast.
I think it took me 3 years, after my shift; not like yours, though. And I'm definitely rooted on Earth.
I assume you are, too. I can't say I'm Spiritual, tho I did wske up and realize God is inside - not "out there."
TOM, PLEASE STOP INTERRUPTING HIM WHEN HE'S ANSWERING A QUESTION OR GIVING AN EXPLANATION!
Thank you.
Stop shouting please. It's so rude! Plus I find and I'm sure many others find, the so called interruptions helpful.(it's actually a conversation, not a speech)
I have never seen a more patient, articulate and respectful interview subject. He is marvellous.
And so wrong. lol
@@keekwai2 care to elaborate?
He's a foul-mouthed ignoramus. The interviewer, that is. Plus, Darwin was demonstrably wrong, so this whole video is pointless, as I'm sure, is the channel.
He's awesome..
@@keekwai2 to have knowledge of the "wrongness" of the theory would require challenging it in a way to make it so - what do you have to offer towards that end? Merely saying it's wrong doesn't make it so
Tom! You have to let the guy finish talking! Remember there are other people listening. You ask amazing questions, but you will not let the guy finish talking! ohh Please!
Lex Fridman does the same thing!
it's B I G and L O U D "CONVERSATIONS with Tom Bilyeu" not an interview
This ‘dude’ Tom is not a good interviewer. His ego is too big. I’ve seen much better interviews with Hoffman. I agree with another commentators, Lex Friedman, same thing unfortunately.
No. The questions were imp for us Laymans. The scientist is brilliant and will never explain what we want to know unless he asks them on behalf of us which we might not really be able to even if we were in front of the brilliant scientist.
youtube needs to ban these comments. downvote and go somewhere else
i liken this interview to edging. Donald would be close to blowing my mind and just as he was about to say the last few key words... tom would jump in and reset by asking him something else... donald would then start again to build that "omg moment" ANNDDD tom cuts him off... BLUE BALLEDDDD :(((
Yep. It was almost like deliberate so we can’t see if this means anything or not. We just have to believe Tom.
BAHAHAHAHAH
I almost smashed the monitor a couple of times;)
I am a woman but even I felt this. It made sense before Tom wanted to spend more time on the subject and he starts bringing things left and right in.. When it made sense before lol, was ready to move on
@@johnsmith-000 XD YYYUUPP
The headset theory really makes sense to me, in fact you can imagine this headset being differrent for each species. When you look at a cat, you feel its a furry and cute little thing but when she sees you, she doesnt really know you are a human. In fact scientists say that cats see us as some kind of big and ugly strange looking cats.
so. many. interruptions. I usually love Tom's interviews... we get that you have lots of questions but lord let us catch up!
This topic is understandable for the Commoner++ at the surface, but the discussion around perceptual models and associated meta model is not. That stresses Tom.
David Bergman We are smarter than Tom gives us credit for, but we do need a full thought to follow without it feeling like we’re trying to catch a throng of frogs in a swamp.
Catch up come on hi to keep going you got to keep growing to keep growing you keep going haven’t slept in days I got addiction grab a pen and paper
@@thegeniusfool "Commonor++" LOL nice.
Agreed … it’s obvious there are personal hang ups but this isn’t a political debate - let him explain ( finish)
Hoffman is an amazing author and modern thinker. Tom, my second view of your stuff. Please just save the questions for after the guest explains their thought. Your interruptions are not helpful to their explanations or those of your audience who are here for them & just seeing you as a result.
Agreed. Tom's interruptions are rude and so unprofessional. I would have walked out of the interview if I was Hoffman. He deserves so much more respect. Tom Iis ignorant and rude for interrupting all the time. I stopped watching it because of this.
So annoying 🎯 💯
On the contrary, they are very helpful indeed.
@@deborahcurtis1385 Agreed.
He never does that wit some clown crypto talkers
Tom literally talked more than the guest, and 99% of his continuous and ceaseless interruptions served no purpose other than to prevent the Hoffman from being able to tell us about his theories. It was so enraging I actually had to stop watching and go find an interviewer who didn't entirely overtalk his guest. I recommend you drop taking the adderall before your shows. FOR CHRISTS SAKE LET YOUR GUEST FINISH A SINGLE SENTENCE.
Lmao !!!!
I completely agree.
Actually Tom had good foundations to question Donald.
Yes I need to stop he is being very annoying
Completely. I came here to make this comment (to be helpful) and found others had already done so.
Brilliant. Such a joy to watch two extremely intelligent individuals debating such a complex subject.
I have long believed that we all have slightly different perceptions of reality but I hadn't seriously questioned whether or not reality even exists.
It would answer some of the very profound questions we have about "God", life and the universe.
I found the topic of mind altering drugs very interesting. I took acid at university in the sixties and experienced the mixing of the senses. Even now I can vividly remember the taste of the music as it came off the LP.
My theory of why we are here is also that we are here to experience and learn. The question is, do I want to take the headset off?
Thanks guys, I loved every minute of it.
You mean 1 extremely intelligent person and 1 egomaniac.
@@HardHardMaster😂😂 right
Reality exists, but our perception of it is limited by how our sense of being is set to understand it.
Experience, yes. Learn...what? Each new incarnation, "your" memory gets wiped. Nice (cosmic) joke. 🤪😂✌️
You should never interrupt like this, I think it wise to learn patience and kindness, especially with a guest giving views or information
Tom swears.....very immature
I agree. The guest seems he's about to lay it all out then the interviewer destroys the flow and we're all over the place
Yeah....Tom’s interruptions are atrocious....And when he curses, it just sounds stupid. Anyway...
This show SHOULD be called; 'Interrupted Conversations By Tom'
u r a fool
He is not a fool.
That is why I stopped JRE he just interrupted so much when people came who had something to say other than giggles and weed
Tom denied simulation, we are not real its a game , just take a look at the universe how crazy enormous .
@@pipsantos6278 we
In a different headset, this interview lasted only 20 minutes without the interruptions.
Lol
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In that different headset, I might have actually learned something too. To me, it felt like blowing up a bunch of balloons and popping them just as quickly.
Niel's Bohr quoted: "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." So maybe this universe is a kind of simulation? Until science can explain what the field is made of, then the simulation theory is really compelling.
Interesting - seen enough of Tom’s interviews to know he doesn’t make a habit of interrupting. I think two things are happening: 1) Given the complex nature of the topic, Tom felt a need to ‘interrupt’ in order to help viewers digest the content and 2) he is genuinely deeply interested in the topic and ended up interrupting to quench the desire to understand. All in all, it was a good subject/interview!
Yes, that's right, because if you just continue listening, you forget the question because then there would already be 3 or 4 more questions!!!
Gezzachary!
100%.
He ruined it for me
In the beginning it was ok... But overall he interrupted to much.
Ask a question and let your guest answer.
Don't blame him. He went to The Joe Rogan School of interviews.
Lol I went straight to the comments section to make sure I wasn't just being unfair... Jesus Christ! Hoffman couldn't finish a single thought!
This would be a much better video if someone could just fast forward every time Tom talks.
You can fast forward by moving the hand along the long horizontal line. The pictures of the video as this hand moves show you where you are so you can stop exactly past Tom.
I did.
2:07:21 Reading about other peoples experience can never bring you to the absolute magic of having a psychedelic experience for yourself. And the only price I've ever paid for doing the different things I've done in the plant medicine space is the realization that I have to come back to normal life. And at this point it does really feel like a price to pay.... but I'm deeply grateful for the time I do get spend on plant medicine... and just being pure consciousness is an experience I've had many times,... and after quite a few years of meditating, I can get there just through meditation now. Love this episode .... thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for supporting psychedelics! I have done plant medicine before too and now want to venture into reaching that state through meditation. But I don’t know where to start to find guidelines to help my journey. Do you have any advice about how to get going?
@@timelessadventurerAs you meditated look within yourself. Do a sort of trust fall into yourself. Into your own consciousness. People typically make the mistake of trying to look outside of themselves but the key is looking within.
@@timelessadventurerI'd suggest a guided audio course. I have one in mind but if I post it, might get deleted. Try looking at my "😉" playlist under the 3rd video...there should be a link. 😉✌️
Dr. Hoffman's discussion aligns significantly with the theories in Srimad Bhagavatam. Srimad Bhagavatam is a 10-volume exposition derived from Hindu scripture and describes the creation of the Universe and points to the theory that there is an absolutely truth (reality) in which there is a Supreme Controller (also called the Supreme Being), controlling many millions of planetary systems and black holes, each containing different living entities, which have different types of senses that perceive the same matter in different ways from living entities in a different planetary system. Srimad Bhagavatam also discusses that each living entity is a spark of energy, that originally was part and parcel of the Supreme Being, and at the beginning of time they are put into a cycle of Birth and Death, where, at the beginning, they are put into different material bodies (varying from human to amoeba), based on their karmic actions in previous lifetime. Each material body provide different degrees of suffering and when the material body can no longer be sustained, the living entities are released from the material body and move into another material body (i.e. cycle of birth and death), a process known as transmigration. Because of the slow pace at which human senses perceive movement of space and time, we assume it to be our reality because it seems almost constant that we can measure it with our limited senses, but according to absolute reality, the universe also as a birthday and death day - it is called one life cycle of Brahma. At the end of Brahma's cycle, the entire material universe is re-absorbed into the Supreme Being using black holes and then re-created again, when Brahma is again born. In the current year (2020) and current carbon-dated age of Earth (approx 4+ billion years), Brahma is approximately 56years old and dies at 100years. The universe has approx another 4+ billions years before it is again re-absorbed by the Supreme Being. It is all relative, there is only one constant consciousness, the consciousness of the Supreme Being, who is the only one who can observed transmigration, so new life, old life, time periods, evolution of species, etc are all only relative to the absolute truth. Humans start, humans end - that makes us count each life cycle, and hence, each life cycle is only relative. Most of us have experienced millions of births in previous lifetimes, but we cannot remember because the human body does not allow those memories to be stored. There are 4-handed beings considered higher forms than the human body, made in the image of the Supreme Being. Because we start and because we end, we have to consider ourselves untrue (inconstant) compared to the Supreme Being who is the only constant.
Dear Mr Phillips, I've not come across the term near death experience in particular, but it does make reference to a scripture called the Garuda Purana, Purana meaning testimony, and Garuda (a living entity described as a bird) is described as the physical vehicle of the Supreme Being. The Garuda Purana describes the transmigration process of a living entity that has assumed a human body, from birth (as foetus in mother's womb - suffering starts here as bacteria and viruses feed on the foetus) through to assuming its next body. Consider yourself fortunate in experiencing an NDE - it is just a status check on where you are relative to realization of the absolute truth, just the same as when a teacher drops a pop quiz (or surprise test) on the students. It seems that the conclusion of information in the Srimad Bhagavatam is that the main goal of all living entities is to realize what is the absolute truth and find a way out of the cycle of birth and death, i.e. to find a means to voluntarily re-absorb into the Supreme Being and end repeated cycles of suffering. The Garuda Purana also mentions that living entities are attached to the activities that they perform regularly (remember the old saying, association broods attachment?) and at the time of death or at the last breath, the strongest attachment will manifest in your consciousness, and whatever you are attached to, you will achieve that in your next life (kinda reminds me of the Law of Attraction) - for example, if throughout your lifetime you attach yourself to animals, there's a high chance that at the time of your last breath you will think about an animal, and that is the material body you will assume in your next life. So it seems that an NDE is intended to inform you on your attachments and it is up to you to change your attachments and acquire more appropriate ones - Srimad Bhagavatam recommends figuring out what/who is this Supreme Being and finding ways to attach yourself to that Supreme Being so you can get yourself out of the cycle of birth and death.
all these spiritual discussions ultimately come to the same conclusions which were written 5000 years ago in the upanishads and vedas in hinduism...you really have to give credit where its due despite all the contempt and villification hinduism gets from the followers of dogmatic abrahamic religions
@@zenscape663 Hinduism is not even a religion, it is a name given by English men
Actually sanatan dharm is the religion that is confused with Hinduism.
I can be an atheist and a hindu, but I cannot be an atheist and a follower of sanatan dharm
@Mr Phillips in Srimad Bhagavatm there is a reference to NDE - ajamila is the name of the guy.
Watch swami sarvapriyananda lectures on RUclips. Thank me later.
Thank you so much for this and for trying to clarify, but the interruptions are constants so it feels like the one being interviewed, Donald, always needs to diverge from his just-started line of thought, and we always potentially miss a conclusion. Too many interruptions, whilst he never interrupted, so it was almost like a power imbalance. But great great choice of guest and thank you for your hard work with giving us this info!
That's why one is a ground breaking scientist and the other is an entrepreneur. One knows how to listen and one knows how to talk. Just sucks that the one who knows how to listen is the one we would rather hear talk. This is generally always true
Very good description. Yes. Totally miss so many conclusions that Hoffman is trying to communicate.
Tom please man geezuz dude just guide the conversation and stop telling us how confused you are. Seriously you talk twice as much as he does and he's the expert in the subject matter. You were such a great interviewer but somehow you decided to dazzle us with your brilliance. Just please let your guests talk.
That’s why I can’t stand Oprah. She never let guests talk. It was me me me me and don’t you think I’m right. 🙄
heck Hoffman out here: ruclips.net/video/oYp5XuGYqqY/видео.html
Should have leads from there.
Oprah among others is not human
why either way its bullshit coming out we dont live in a false reality ffs.
@@dosran5786 would love to see all your research proving that.
Once had a psychedelic trip where I got the insight that consciousness was this unbounded thing and that it is literally trying to explore every opportunity and form it possibly can. That's basically why Donald is saying about Gurdels incompleteness theorom. There is infinite possibilities to explore, and there is a drive to explore them all.
Man, this sounded really interesting but it was too hard to get through with this interviewer interrupting every 15 seconds. I wish I could just hear a Donald Hoffman monologue.
"The Case Against Reality | Prof. Donald Hoffman on Conscious Agent Theory" This interview is much better.
but you would be evn more clueless than u already are
Agree!! He did a bad job 😔
You would prefer that Donald Hoffman's speculative positions and overuse of the word "mathematics" were never questioned? That indeed happens with most other interviews. This is why Hoffman gets away with his philosophical speculation - because no one quizzes him on mathematics and how it ties in with his philosophical positions. This is the bottom line: mathematics is indeed used in evolutionary theory and game theory. However, does the mathematics demonstrate his positions on "conscious realism", "icons", "conscious agents", etc? No - these positions are over and above the mathematics. Thus the thesis that "reality is unreal" is NOT "proved" by Hoffman (as it states in the heading of the video) because proof is a mathematical and logical notion; whereas the statement "reality is false" is metaphysical (or philosophical).
@@paulaustinmurphy I appreciate that you make some good logical arguments! We first have to understand how life started out before we research anything else! Let’s start first with the DNA of anything living!
I understand that everyone wishes to see through the speaker's mindset and what is he actually trying to propose. I also think that interviewer's questions are imperative for urging clarifications, developing contradictions and for a better understanding. I agree, Tom should have been more composed like he always is in all his interviews. More power to both.
I enjoyed the halt of the messages just because not everyone just nods and accepts what they hear.
Our consciousness exists both inside and outside the headset... that really made me happy.. I want my Dad, Uncle and all the dear beings whom we have lost physically to exist in a better place after death.. and I want to be re-united with my Dad again with continuity..
You will be with family members when you leave the earth without your physical body. That’s what I gathered watching many “near death experiences seeing heaven” testimonials on you tube
Nobody dies. We’re technically not living here bcus it isn’t actually life. It’s a short term experience, like being on a ride at the fair.
When there is a seer and seen .i.e this and that it's a false notion , advaith "only non duality exist" rest is Maya illusion
Get the book Hands of Light written by the physicist Barbara Brennan. Physicists know we are not physical or solid because atoms are electrical energy fields. Nobody dies because we are constantly being created as the images of our souls, which are electrical energy field beings that are creating US as THEIR images.
Same here
Does anyone know where I can find an interview with this amazing person so I can actually listen to him talk without being interrupted every time his thought process gets good? I don't think I have ever been more angry during an interview. If I was was this guest I would have gotten out of my chair and stormed off. Tom is, without question, the most disrespectful interviewer I have ever seen. But seriously though - I would love to listen to this guest if someone would let him talk.
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Here's a link to a Ted Talk video where Hoffman presents a lecture (monologue), free from the annoyance of interruption.
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Lex Fridman interviewed him for about 2 hours.
Hey Tom! Keep up the great work! Some feedback: You were interrupting Mr. Hoffman a bit too much in this interview.
You know why he interrupted in between b.c in terms of defining things the interviewee was way a head of the scope of the interviewer"s understanding.
Yes but he still could have let the man speak, finish what he was going to say then recap. Very distracting. I agree.
@@Miaphysite-ተውሃዶ-Orthodoxy -- I agree. Tom admitted as much. It is my observation that Tom asked some great questions the audience of viewers of this video may have had themselves ; so they were helpful in understanding the somewhat rambling discourse of the interviewee . When someone knows their subject in and out, up and down, they sometimes don't realize their listener is not grasping the concepts as well as he or she might with a bit of clarification. There was nothing going on in this conversation between the two that falls into improper conversational exchange; in fact it followed a normal conversational exchange when the listener sincerely wishes to understand. 👍
a discussion about a study is not an interview u brainless fool
I might be wrong but I think Mr Hoffman just unpacked what spiritual gurus have been trying to explain re: true self and false self.
But we must understand that even the false self is a fact/true/reality or to put it more appropriately virtual reality
@@orvilleraposo7760 True, the true and false self are constructs of the headset. We've been at this for years trying solve the problem of perception using the very tool which is the cause of the problem. The headset will not allow us we will always find turtles all the way down. If by some chance one of us should be so lucky to see themselves and the world for what it realy is, I doubt they'll be able to articulate it. They'll go mad..! I think :)
Spiritbao Funny that I found your comment, like a needle in a haystack. I had never heard the term “turtles all the way down” until a couple hours ago, when Mark Manson said it in a video on self awareness.
As someone who’s had many varied experiences I can’t explain, and neither can science, I nearly drove myself mad trying to understand them. From OBE’s with ET’s to feeling others at a distance physically via my “energy” body on a daily basis, (there is a form of telepathy that presents with this) to seeing past and future versions of myself and even hearing them speak to me; all of this in altered drug- free states, and much more...I paraphrase Terence McKenna paraphrasing J.B.S. Haldane: The universe is not only stranger than we suppose. It’s stranger than we can suppose.”
If everything we perceive Is Unreal, why should Mathematica and logic be an exception
That's my biggest question to the theory too
Right. Using concepts from within to explain a reality that doesn't exist annuls the premise. One would need to exit this dimension in order to observe it "objectively". Then again, once out, we might get to the realization that it's just not worth it. Oh no... I'm down the rabbit hole
“...everything we perceive...”Because mathematics and logic don’t seem to be perceptions
@@rotorblade9508 is not one person's logic different from another's? Logic is also perceived and changes over time. My logical thinking is much different now than it was 10 years ago. Mathematics are an agreed upon perception we created over a thousand years ago. Look at the speed of light which isn't actually constant. We measure it against the metre then as the speed changes the metre measurement changes to keep the speed of light "constant" so the "logic" of mathematics here is lacking logic in my opinion as your measurement of one is altered by the other. It's circular measurements and isn't very logical however it makes things constant and makes the formulas uniform across the board. Logic is an illusion we do not truly know what logic is as we do not know what reality truly is. We can say that mathematics as it pertains to surface level or macro physical level is logical but once you get into quarks, spinners, light speed, things that are invisible to us we don't have the information to make logic out of that reality and our math breaks down.
@@gifmesome yes, however the study of logic is quite limited as it pertains to reality. It is only useful on the macro physical level of reality. It imo breaks down at the quantum level and certainly breaks down when getting into the fact that we can not see ultimate reality. Our senses do not allow for this and even our created instruments so far only extend our senses. We can not extend logic to something so unknown. This is of course my opinion and thinking and I can not prove it as we are discussing something so unknown.
I respect how Tom doesn't move on without understanding where this is going. This is the difference between someone who goes through a lecture and gets nothing out of it, or someone who asks the questions and learns something.
Yes its annoying but look at 10:49 - 13:00. Mr. Hoffman keeps skipping over the details because they are so simple for him, but we needed that information milked out of him to be able to keep up.
Great interview
Exactly. But there are at least 54 geniuses out there who TU'd the post that tells him to stop!
One is even using caps to do it. This is appallingly rude, and I hope Tom understands that most people love his work and appreciate his contributions and observations.
@@deborahcurtis1385 that's right. If someone wants no interruption they can read or listed to Donald's books. It's fare more interesting to listen someone really trying to understand the matter. also there's the reason why Tom is an interviewer and not those 54 geniuses :)
@@CCOREY6O6 TOTALLY! It's funny to hear the self-appointed experts at interviewing!
*Reads comments, goes to find another interview with Donald Hoffman*
@@J-KEY just gonna click on your dumb bait and tell all my friends to do it too ;-)
@@J-KEY dumbooooooo
Totes
The people watching ten minutes and leaving aren't appreciating the fact that the host is successfully making this accessible to people that don't have doctorates in the field.
BishopWraith I, for one, am wildly appreciative of exactly this. I didn’t find his interruptions too bothersome, I would have had to stop him to interject even more, just to be sure I was tracking what he was saying. I definitely need to watch this one a second time.
Is like a Cloud in wich all minds are connected to one, but each one feels unique.
We're all variations of the same bowl of dry oatmeal flakes.
Cities on Earth are the equivalent of mold on bread
@@GBuaccc ok joe rogan
@@GBuaccc Cities on Earth are the equivalent of doo doo stains on your underpants
Are you sure? A lot of the so called minds on the web or cloud all seems very like each other. Originality is few and far in between. Unique would not exactly be what I’d use to describe the collective consciousness on the web right now.
you interrupt him way too much :( just let him talk, he's talking interesting stuff
ditto!
Agree! He made me fucking angry!!
Truth
Yes, be quiet Tom. He is more interesting than you.
DITTO
I beg to differ with some of the comments.....I think Tom has done an admirable job during this interview. He has kept the conversation at a level some of us mere mortals (certainly myself) can understand. With respect, he has kept the horse from bolting.
"Seeing the truth, and seeing what is deemed needed to survive are two very different things" deep
He hasn't interrupted him thus far but I'm already getting agitated waiting for it after reading the comments!! 😂
Perhaps your false is reality?
@@TheFirstCalled.60.A.D 😆
Same
@andrew 10
I agree. I perceived it more as a conversation than an interview with someone trying to understand. I have ADD, maybe Tom does as well. Do those of us that understand these so called ‘interruptions’ all experience attention deficit disorders and/or live with someone who does? 🤔😆
You must be two minutes in when you wrote this
The actual reason Tom stated of this being a show is to have an authentic conversation in front of his viewers without quite the same level of manners and without a fear of challenging or questioning the others beliefs. Interrupting and pushing to get to a certain place in conversation is just part of it and Tom is the host so it serves him to do that. All we can do is stand bye for the ride and take the immense amounts of value out of this that are sitting there. I think this show is brilliant and so full of value and I think the saltiness about interruptions is decently misled with all respect! I have very much appreciation to Tom for letting all of us inside of his mind in a real raw conversation. So valuable thanks Tom!
That’s a good perspective my friend I sensed he’s trying to create that authentic vibe like rogan. And with the table facing each other. But my comments left on this thread still apply ahah
I was excited to watch this video and that it was so long because I wanted to learn more about Donald Hoffman, I couldn't make it past 11 minutes because of Tom's constant interruptions. a sign of a good interviewer is someone who listens to their guest. Tom would consistently ask a question and before Hoffman got even a third of the way into responding Tom would interrupt with another longer question. I wouldn't be surprised if the 11 minutes I watched was 80% Tom talking. It should've been the other way around. I'm grateful that this isn't the only interview with Donald Hoffman.
I couldn't finish the interview. Worst interviewer I've ever seen. Constantly interrupting the esteemed guests' narrative flow to needlessly pontificate. Save yourself a massive amount of time and just get the audiobook of Dr. Hoffman's OUTSTANDING work.
couldn't agree more..
I think Tom did incredible job explaining for audience. There are so many scientific term and theory that needs to generalize for normal people to understand
@@pemikathiravanitkul889 Tom didn't need to explain for the audience though. He could have just said "elaborate please" or "I didnt qute get that part" and Dr Hoff would have presented a Leyman level analogy himself.
@White Daddy Hahahahaha you joker!
Just listen to the book "Seth Speaks" on RUclips or study the psychology of faeries
Don’t ask if “there’s another way to say that” if you didn’t even allow him to finish his explanation the first time. Lay off the adderall, Tom. Still love you. 💕
LOL i was thinking that same thing.
I so agree! This is hard to listen to because of Tom's incessant interruptions. Hoffman's information would be much easier to understand were he allowed to give full, uninterrupted explanations.
She said it for me too!! It really is frustrating. These things take time to explain. Sheesh
🤣🤣🤣
Agreed … as hard as you’ll try you won’t appear smarter than him in this field
It took me like 4hours to complete this interview.... pausing, reversing and just taking time to digest the knowledge nuggets. Thanks Tom, the questions were on point... this is deep D. Hoffman
Tom was deeply affected by what Hoffman was wrestling with in a way that I am deeply sympathetic with. Passionately caring about ideas and hitting the pause button when the agent is spun out by a curve ball is a sign of respect, a way of saying "you've lost me" or "I am lost" or asking "am I lost?" or asking "have you lost me?" is not disrespect, it is deep trust that Hoffman is wanting to be understood by Tom who is our surrogate in this interview. I've spent probably about 6 hours rewinding and regroking and have only watched maybe 2/3 of the interview so far. Tom's desire to understand is beautifully matched by Hoffman's desire to be understood. This passion for sharing the truth and the discovery of the truth (however limited the agencies interacting and becoming a larger agency and even includes us in a broader agency) is to me sacred ground. These men both expanded the heart of the universe as I know it. Many thanks. Old Beth
Tom your interruptions are annoying!
Did he call him Dude?
Fuck! Annoying? I couldn’t get through the interview. There were so many interruptions they could barely stay on a train of thought. Worst interview I’ve ever seen!
Absolutely outstanding, quite possibly the most cognitively demanding IT episode yet
Yeah. Very. To say the least. Lol.
Agreed
the most, hard to say...epic for sure
reticulating splines
RUclips's Black Mirror
"We have to remember that what we observe is not nature herself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning." - W. Heisenberg
One of my favorite quotes!!!!
I wouldn't be TOO proud of that quote friend.. Heisenberg is on a LONG list of very smart people who also can believe completely unsupported ideas.. Heisenberg's LIFELONG fascination with Eastern religions instilled in him a cognitive bias to LOOK for validating connections with QM... Sometimes he needed the persuasion of influential Taoist teachers to "See the light".. Fellow physicists of his time, LIKE today, find these ideas more a topic of curious amusement then serious insight.. Of course one can find dubious connections in ANY book of symbolism and parables, but ASSUMPTIVE knowledge is the antithesis of the scientific method and best LEFT to philosophers.. A humble opinion friend..Peace.
PS.. Most physicists today are scientific materialists, and DO think materialism correctly describes the way our cosmos works. GAPS in our knowledge must be filled, tweaks made, BUT the notion that theres some deep layer of truth LIKE the simulation Theory, or any OTHER unverifiable, fantastical claim is rubbish... NO credible evidence? Then the claim isn't credible.
I didn't expect anything less from Tom but, Jesus Christ, he did ask fantastic questions! Thank you for another exceptional discovery!
I wish he would have let the Dr answer the questions a little longer before firing off the next questions.
Yeah, I noticed the AWESOME questions.
My hero: Donald Hoffman is a living breathing, humble genius. What a gift, thank you Sir
Is this whole interview just the Tom guy talking over the other guy who is the expert? He should just deliver a monologue, he loves his own voice. Let the other guy speak and shut up dude
More talk from the speaker & less from interviewer & we might learn more great information tho cheers
jewels anderson the show is called “Conversations with Tom” and on these talks they converse and share thoughts back and forth. Tom has another show called Impact Theory where he just interviews and the guests take up 90% or more of the time. On this one Tom is actually participating in the conversation and that’s why it feels different. He wanted to be able to go back and forth and explore his own ideas as well.
That is the strength of the Impact Theory, Tom is us (the laymen) having the expert explain complex concepts in a way that is phatomable. Thanks Tom !
Evolution is true in the 3rd dimension (the interface) whilst mathematics is true in the fifth dimension.
jewels anderson I came here for this. Thanks!!
its not an interview ballbag
This interviewer has evolved to love the sound of his own voice! The scientist has the patience of a saint!
The scientist is a moron who's trying to find a way to accept intelligent design without accepting theism.
ROFL! AND you fell for the conjob of his guest. LOL! ROFL!
@@repealsection230forbigtech4 who is the guest tho like how’s he a conman I have no clue about this guy
I didn’t watch the interview but you’re probably right. He looks like a qtip.
@@Israel_Vazquez intelligent design does not require a creator
Having accidentally ingested a very large dose of psilocybin mushrooms many years ago, I can attest to the utter terror of the "ego death" part of the experience. It was an extraordinarily profound experience that left me forever changed, for the better. I would recommend anyone with an interest in such things to take the plunge. It's only fear and once your ego is dead there's nothing left of 'you' to be terrified any more. The peak of that barely lasts a couple of hours. Just don't do it alone or in tricky surroundings. Have a sedative on hand if you're prone to panic attacks, like I am. This was my first ever experience with psychedelics. There was nothing to stave off the initial extreme fear for me, nor did I know until too late I'd taken far too much. But afterwards, I saw the torment as a very very small price to pay for such a rare and immensely valuable experience. Looking forward to hearing about it if either of you ever try it.
I took my first proper acid dose last night, not ego death but very close and I did experience exactly this, and best part is, I took more again and now listening to this, and it's just mind-blowing altogether :)
I literally can't wait to go all in. :)
@@heartfullyhonest Wonderful. Have you returned to this reality yet? Hope it was everything you wanted it to be.
@@lucydayLucida hey, it was a very good therapy for the starters. I was going through hell recently and this really helped me a lot. And yes I saw the fractals and beautiful stuff getting lost walking home on a street I know. It was amazing. But I see I will need to really prepare and take a larger one after a month. I’m going for the hero dose next time. ;)
@@heartfullyhonest If it was good therapy you got your money's worth. I never got any acid good enough to break through on. It was blue meanie mushrooms that did it. I ate 10 freshly picked. It was my first time and later I found out 3 would have been a strong dose, especially for someone as skinny as I am. Let us know how it goes.
25:00 - Tom, you're talking over him too much.
39:36
Excellent interview, except the constant interruptions from Tom. A lot of what was discussed is described in the books of Carlos Castaneda.
The method of science, the aim of religion
Completely agree
Lmao exactly
I can not grasp the idea because I have to listen that is in Tom’s mind. Tom, take a sip of water and keep it in your mouths until your interlocutor end the idea
You interview him, you get to ask the questions. Perhaps Tom’s spreading awareness of the concept while trying to understand it himself, but probing is more often than not a tactic used by interviewers to prompt a deeper explanation specifically for the benefit of a wider range of viewers. Meanwhile, you’re receiving the information via a free RUclips video.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think Tom talked more than the guest. Fucking hell.
Boop. Got your nose.
This interview is why i watch Tom's videos. You sir bring the obscure thinking out there to the relative mainstream and i could never thank you enough for it.
This guy is a Genius ! He's just been describing God !!! Thank you Tolle and Watts and so many others ...
I agree with you.
That's exactly the conclusion I kept coming back to. I was hearing some of the same concepts I hear my geeky pastor expand on. I'll have to get this video to my pastor, he would love it.
That’s what I was thinking.
Damn, I’ve listened to a few other DH interviews and this my favorite so far. I didn’t get the vibe Tom was being overly interruptive, many of his questions I found myself nodding along thinking “yeah I was wondering that myself" and got DH to describe his theory in contexts I hadn’t heard before. So thanks for that 👍
I concur
WOW WOW WOW this is so REAL { GOOD ON YOU} G.U.Y.S things happen for a REASON !
This took me three days to watch so I could really absorb it and I'm so shook, this was amazing!!! Also, Conversations with Tom is my favorite content you've produced thus far.💕
Found this podcast after just discovering Donald Hoffman through his TED talk. LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT!
I've noticed a large number of people in the comments claiming that Tom interrupts Hoffman too much and that doing that doesn't allow Hoffman to finish his thoughts. There are two problems with this 1) A large part of this perception is simply the fact that Hoffman replies to the person he's talking with frequently with "Right" or "mmhmm" or "yes" and very quickly-this is just one of his speech patterns that indicate he's following what the other person is saying. (I've talked to Hoffman in person, and it doesn't feel like he's constantly trying to talk and you're interrupting him when you also can see what his facial and body language is indicating--that he's merely following what you're saying after each sentence in your articulation) 2) It's critical that Tom stops Hoffman as Hoffman is explaining a concept because Hoffman's theory takes a great deal of understanding in terms of the individual components and important differences between what the theory entails and what intuitively makes sense. And the best part is that Hoffman most likely doesn't mind those interruptions--but rather encourages them! He's an educator as well as an intelligent scientist and it's important to him that the person he's talking to understands what he's talking about. Yes, his speech patterns might make it seem like Tom is interrupting him but what's actually occurring is this: Tom is communicating his interpretation of what he was just told by Hoffman back to Hoffman to make sure that he--and us, the viewers--truly understand what Hoffman just said. Conscious realism and the Interface Theory of Perception use analogies to contrast our interface with true reality and what makes this discussion so difficult is that the analogies that are used ARE and can only be from our interface in the first place! :) This is why it's important that Tom stops Hoffman to make sure that he truly understands what Hoffman is explaining, and if you're listening carefully enough, your intuition should probably be challenged to the point where you need to pause the video and make sure that you understand what is being communicated as well.
- Cheers, I hope everyone has a great day!
Interesting conversation.Both men did great.Thank you both.I love myself!
I do recognize that one of Tom's functions here is to try to bring things down to the average listener/watcher's level, but I think what bothers me about is that he doesn't even let Hoffman get a complete idea onto the table - it would be better if he'd do that, and then go back and systematically dissect it with a series of questions. The more frequent interruptions tend to cause the conversation to diverge in some cases, so by the time you reach a major topic change you're not even close to being on the same "page" you started that section out on.
Also, it's CLEAR that it's not just an odd person or two tossing this "interruption accusation" - it's almost the only thing people are commenting on. EVERYONE saw it. I've seen Tom do this to other guests as well - I think it's just an aspect of his personality - he's a pushy, alpha kind of guy.
Dan Cawley posted a comment where he used the phrase "learn to match someone's energy." I think that puts a pin in it really well. When I first ran across Tom I initially found him enjoyable, but now I rarely watch him anymore because of how common this behavior is.
Sigh... to the interviewer: Let the guys talk; he is the reason I started watching this! You interrupt too much, let the guy finish his sentence at least.
It’s a conversation not an interview. He was helping to break down the info for the viewers.
@Robert Fisher “CONVERSATIONS WITH...”
@Robert Fisher Lol, he is talking about reality in that we only have 5 senses. The most important he is talking about is eyesight. And through evolution, we would ONLY see things that help us survive. Anything that has no use to us, or does not harm us, our brain would be programmed to ignore. Thus there could be things flourishing all around us, we just don't see or interact with it. It is beyond our limited senses. The speaker had to turn what I just wrote into over 2 hours to explain it. But, yes, I know you were being funny.
It’s his show ya know 🤔👀👀
I was starting to get annoyed too , he needs to chill a little bit and listen a little bit more , I found that poor guy having to re-explained the same thing over again form multiple angles to help him understand.
I wish Tom would stop interrupting, such an interesting topic but he ruins it.
It's hard to have an informed two way conversation about the subject in this video. Mostly because it's super rare to find anybody who is well versed in the subject. So cut him some slack bro he probably had no idea what to say at first.
Could learn a thing or two from Rogan
I WISH TOM WAS MORE AWARE WITH EQ THAT DONALD IS GETTING AGGREVATED BY GETTING CUT OFF MID SENTENCE EXPLAINING THINGS...
M. He’d be a great guest on JRE. Joe would love to chat to this guy. I would also love to see him on the AI podcast with Lex.
Ole JB Aderall. That’s all I’m saying. Jk
OMG this is hands down the most amazing goosebump discussion. Life changing. The information just dropped in and the light went off not on! I can't shake the feeling there's nothing back there, it's all out front! close your eyes, so you see grey right? now try looking out the BACK of your head, eyes- that's the biggest reveal. there's absolutely nothing
It was really cool of Donald to interview Tom.
Hahahhahaha:)
The best simulation would be one in which the participant is unaware he is in a simulation.
That reminds me of the South Park episode with VR with the indian customer service guy. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Yes
I thought the exact same thing.
Before we signed up for this simulation we understood we would not be aware of the simulation. I believe that was part of the draw. Life is somehow boring so we fell asleep into a simulation. Maybe to pass time...maybe to entertain us during cryo-sleep...
@@izman20 That's the real question. Why would we put ourselves into a simulation like this? Something like "no pain no gain"? Next to wonder what the gain would be, if we are willing to go through so much pain to get it.
Let the guy talk dude.....we want to hear his theories, not yours 😀
He’s a narc intimidated by the calm, confident demeanor of his guest. He clearly feels inferior and flew into posturing mode.
I agree somewhat, but Tom does ask Don many of the questions I myself am dying to ask!
Tom is challenging concepts at specific times so that the foundation is laid right for a real discussion. I think without interruptions, Hoffman could have the tendency to spew 15 new concepts out in one sentence. Tom needs to balance the viewers and Hoffman and his own curiosity so that a commonality can be built on before the conversation advances so rapidly it just becomes sensationalism. I definitely see what your saying... but if you look at Tom's excitement and energy, I believe he's trying to build a common ground so that the conversation can grow; not cutting it down to inject his own opinions. Towards the last half he lets Hoffman speak way more.
@@DobbyFisher1 So in other words he is not a Big Mouth. Clarity.
This is called 'Conversations with Tom', not 'Tom listening to his guest'. Conversations are two-sided. If he wants to jump in and speak he has every right to do so. One shouldn't mistake Tom for JUST being an interviewer. He clearly has a lot of theories of his own which we would only hear during these conversations.
I’m probably not going to articulate this well but here I go.
I find the concept of our “headset” as some sort of an interface between us and the “matrix code” ,similar to the idea of “a bubble of perception” if you will, and we are all born into it and continue to reinforce with the specific way we perceive reality. This idea is presented in the Castaneda book with a shaman named Don Juan😮😮
The cool thing to me is that in the book, “Don Juan” tells you how to break through it intensionally and all that. I also think its pretty wild how a concept that comes up in ball tripping shamanism can be similar to a concept proposed by a strict scientist. Named Dr Donald Huffan!
Thanks so much for this awesome interview.
It’s like he read my 2003 book “The Textbook of the Universe: the Genetic Ascent to God”. Maybe he did. I used to email him before his book came out and after that he just stopped. Unfortunately I moved to California partly to work with him. So sad. In my book, I cite Godels Incompleteness theorem, and have a chapter “Going beyond our evolutionary world view” where I show that space and time are constructed by the brain. People who know me and my thinking always say “the world needs to catch up” yeah. I left graduate school to write my theory and traveled the world to present it, but people ironically had little discernment to understand that I was getting at the answers. So I wrote the book. So many researchers in the last 20 years have made careers on small aspects of what I wrote, but there is a larger theory in there. The movie “The Matrix” was an uncanny synchronicity to my thinking. So is Donald Hoffman. I actually show what synchronicity is and I proposed a new introspective statistical methodology to show the patterns of synchronistic events in life at the University of Arizona, and approximately 4 years later, Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona actually did the research and statistical analysis and ranking of synchronicity I proposed and predicted and found results more significant than most results in science. At like the .00000000000000000001 level (roughly showing what I mean, not the exact number). So my theory predicts. And it explains. And it unified. And it is information based. Why is no one listening? Because I never finished my degree-and people pay attention to credentials because they don’t think. I made an overestimate of how many people are like me and would recognize the explanatory and predictive power. -they are not thinkers like I am. A lot of them are not really after the best truth they can find about everything. They just want a career describing a piece of the puzzle. I am describing the picture on all the pieces when you put them together. I am increasingly realizing that nearly no one tries to see that aspect of reality. And now I am thinking that they can’t. Once in a while people really get part of the ideas. I met Jordan Peterson 20 years ago and he used a lot of my stuff in his classes. We hit it off immediately because he tries to see the big picture view on the pieces. I was one of the first people to read his awesome “Maps of Meaning” and he definitely gets that aspect of my thought. Also Francis Crick and I hit it off and both knew the importance of MEANING-which I take apart logically to show the flaws in our world view and assumptions. I definitely think beyond this reality and I have found it frustrating in the extreme that in the past people couldn’t see that. It’s changing now. Love Donald Hoffman. He gets this interface part and dives in better than most. None of these people can see the implications of their puzzle piece. It’s like they have blinders on.
Tom, if you really want an interview, you should bring me on. 🤷♀️👍🏻 I will blow your mind. Seriously. If you want proof of what I say, I can email you a picture of Jordan Peterson and I meeting. Also, ironically I am transgender.
No one listening has nothing to do with no degree. In Abraham Hicks language, you have a 'vibration' of no one listening, so that is what the universe delivers. Your book is too long and was written with that vibration. When I read Neal Walsch's 'Conversations with God' I was gripped by the first page and there was no question of me not finishing it - and recommending it. Another much shorter book might give you traction.
Have your own youtube channel and explain it all there. People will come and learn from your insights. You don't need to limit your teachings to an interview with Tom. Do what expands you and the rest will fall in. Just teach the world to wake up the many. Note that one Vedic scripture already talks about this and they define life as a set of 112 processes not as a religion, or science. It's all a big quantum life ancient knowledge that now we started to get a grasp of.
I get so nervous when Donald is speaking that Tom will cut his sentence.
I was waiting for Donald to tell him to shut up so he could talk
Same here. It's a really unpleasant feeling. Let's vow we won't do something like this ourselves when talking to another person.
@@dawid_dahl yu
Tom's trying his hardest to steal the show.
Like what’s the point of interviewing someone if you’re gonna not interview them.
Your voice is like way louder then the guest. i turn my speakers up to hear guest and when u speak it is so louid!
"So high you can't get over it. So low you can't get under it." There is no answering nor explaining nor understanding any and all of this outside of GOD consciousness- omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence. The Ultimate and Original Conscience Agent...
Two conscious beings speaking on an interview for once is such a great thing to watch 👏
Agreed Vincent. You See So Clearly. ;) Refreshing Indeed. ⚡️🦋🤗💥👑🙏
Thrs no two Consiousness thrs only one, listen to Rupert spira, David Bohm, J Krishnamurti murthis videos to understand more.
@@Iam590 I've read most of them, I like this guys take.
Tesla referenced human energy 🌬👻jesus christ referenced living waters 💎👨🎓science described water memory 🌊🤵existence reflecting psychologically, psalms16:24 k,j 👻💎👨🎓🤍🗡🗽🛡💖🧮⚖☄🌪🌬
@@miguelchippsinteligente6072 Jesus said whoever knows himself knows God, what he was literally saying is that we are all God. Thrs only one Consiousness manifesting itself into different forms. Thrs no separate person too.
This explains a dream I had once.
I dreamed that the windows in Will Smith's house were made of sugar instead of glass. I believed it so much and wanted to prove it that I waited for him to leave one evening and then broke in and used a popsicle stick to verify my theory (yay dreams). I was very happy to find out I was correct and as I was leaving his home the police drove up and arrested me. Apparently I had set off a silent alarm when I broke in that even my own brain didn't know about. The same brain making up the story of the dream itself, the alarm, the participants (itself included!), and everything else! It sounds silly but I woke up and then couldn't go back to sleep all night due to pondering the implications of that. On the surface it seemed like it was just my brain making up the dream as it went along but the more I thought about it the deeper the meaning behind the contradiction became and I finally just chalked it up to being something I'd never understand. This was the first time in my life I suspected there was more going on than I was aware of.
Its called subconscious mind
I love that in your dream, already a thing that happens "underneath", your brain tricked you on another level underneath that! 😅👏
I dunno. Sounds very deep and thought-provoking. But I think you might be missing one crucial component and its implications...
Why were you dreaming about the composition of the widows in Will Smith’s house?
Orrr, was your brain simply doing it's ultimate job and keeping you safe and 'fit' for the reality in which you exist? You can't have the triumph of the sugar window theory when you solve the problem in a criminal manner.
I was 3 the first time I doubted the reality of this reality. The thought occurred to me that this may be a dream, being dreamed by someone other than myself. What a dream it's been.
Lol yep. I get that.
I used to constantly sit in the back seat of my parents car utterly questioning reality as a kid. Zoning out into solipsistic thinking, even wondering if I said a thought out loud or not.
I would get into these meditative almost trance-like states and I would swear life wasn't real.
Life as an only child. Ha!
Before I was 10 years old I knew that ‘time’ could not be correct. I constantly battled with there being a beginning and an end which I thought wasn’t possible, I felt sure time as a concept was false.
Lol 😂
@@louisetaylor2131 What do you mean by concept it's false? Time is nothing more than a measurement of motion.
@@Mick0722MX you do not know. We do not know. That is a good place to start.
Tom, thank you for being persistent in your interviews regarding clarifying a word/term or another linguistic item that needs specificity to fully understand what a guest is saying! As others have likely said, many of us are probably thinking the same! Great guest. Love the show 🤗
If Tom is interviewing someone in a forest, and no one is around to hear it, does he still interrupt them?
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LMFAO!
Hahah I just realized who the interviewer reminds me of... Doug from ‘The Hangover’ 😆😆 Likely just his voice as I haven’t really be watching. I appreciate his rather ‘frequent questions’ as I have ADD and tend to suffer with the same problem deemed as ‘interrupting’. It is more so that I will not remember what to ask if I don’t ask immediately. He is truly trying to understand. For me, the majority of these concepts are completely new so I appreciate him asking questions I would never even think to ask. I also don’t think the man he is interviewing is bothered. I think he enjoys answering his questions. When someone is so highly knowledgeable on a given subject, they typically find it rewarding to have the ability to have an educated answer to such a wide variety of questions. Just my thoughts.
A good interviewer knows when to stop talking about themselves. Tom isn't there yet. He asks good questions but then talks about himself the whole time instead of waiting for his guest's response.
@First name Last name Anyone can get behind a microphone and interrupt someone, but apparently not all people can complete the whole form when they open a google account
First name Last name oh honey, IAM Behring a microphone and in front of a camera and M Fernandez and Amanda Gilroy are spot on.
Tom isn’t there yet. He’s far too self absorbed in his questions. Asking a guest to “dummy down” their point is a fault that an interviewer is fully accountable for and 9/10 times is because they have not done their research and don’t know.
He truly asked and answered his own questions more than he allowed his guest to speak.
Interrupting or interjecting is what it is called when properly done, is only used to focus a speaker that is off their line of thought. That was not warranted here anymore than Toms foul language which is the lowest denominator in any interviewer.
Rule 1- know your audience.
EPIC FAIL Tom. SMH.
u wouldn't know what an interview even is gluebag
@@tovahromanov7414 Tom is well-researched and is often praised as a great interviewer. This is not an interview. Check out his show Impact Theory for that. This is Conversations with Tom. He does these not just for you, but also to learn for himself. This topic was of great interest to him, and his priority was to understand it thoroughly. This also helped me to understand it better as well. You should think of these discussions as his personal talks that we have the privilege of listening in on.
@@NelemNaru WOW
So WE - and our perception of “separation” from all this - WE - are the real miracle here! What we perceive as spirituality is really the prevalent “Normal” in the universe. All the universes!!
The real reality is already there, from the instant the universe was created to the instant it will be destroyed. Consciousness observes partially and creates the ilusión of space time.
Locating perception in the present moment and ignoring the rest of the complete multidimensional panorama.
Otherwise nothing would make sense.
Is The universe is a dreaming brain?
Are we aspects of it? Are we within a universal mind?
How about we are immersed and saturated within a holodeck mind that is constantly creating images. We are some of these images proven by how fast quarks/atoms spin which is billions of times a second. We don't see this constant creation of us because it is spinning billions of times a second. This is a HUGE constant process we are experiencing. Energy always spins and vibrates and oscillates in the now. There can't be a past or future. The thought images we have now we let go. They move onward like scenes in a movie. This reality is a scene where nobody dies because they were not physical to begin with. Nobody ever murders anyone else. Proven by how super, super fast subatomic particles are spinning/vibrating/oscillating and popping in and out of what is called us. This creation also includes everything else. Rocks, diamonds, etc. etc. These are images.
Physicists say that atoms are electrical energy fields. Doesn't this one sentence say everything?
There is a contradiction in your logic though. If space time is an illusion then there is no continuity. If you want to have consciousness outside of space time you have to put it outside of the universe itself as well. I might have misunderstood your point though since I'm not a native speaker.
@@soseN08 just because things have the ability to move and decay doesn’t mean that proves time exists. Its just a label we have used to measure it. There thats the whole video....
We are holograms within a holodeck. I read that in the books Hands of Light and The Holographic Universe and the Seth books and An Ascension Handbook. That is proven by how fast subatomic particles spin, meaning nothing can be solid or physical. So.......we are super complicated holograms of light. What YOU are not taught is that we are 100% light. The book The Quantum World contains these words: "magically bursting forth are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons". These 3 points of light are the corners of a triangle that is the first image that begins creating us.
WE are light immersed within light. The difference between dimensions is speed and vibration. Just like cell phone signals all have to be set differently so they don't interfere with each other, dimensions are set differently. Read about OBEs or out of body experiences. There are many books and classes available to learn. This reality is an OBE. They all are.
Nothing is ever destroyed. No reason to. Energy changes shapes and flows as images. Conscious energy is the waves of energy and light we are saturated within. We eat and breathe and think with these waves. These waves of light are constantly creating us. We are what they are, which is intelligence.
In a simulation watching a video about being in a simulation. It makes perfect sense
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Was the simulation “interrupted” ;-)
Lol tru statement
Sooo since this is now apart of our reality does this mean simulation is not real either lol
This is absolute madness!
If we're in a simulation everyone should be able to bend reality. From the creativity that our Brain produces. As well eliminate everything that we call natural or organic. Life and death sickness and health. Should be absilete. I call bs
I dunno about ya'all, but this has been the most fascinating, shocking, eye-opening, thought-challenging interview so far. Thank you, Tom, the people you interview are amazing! Thank you for the opportunity to learn so much, for your great questions and your hard work!
Tom you really needed to let Hoffman speak longer without interruption. I get that you have questions but this interview became so dis-jointed with all your interruptions that something was lost for me. I went from really enjoying the submissions from Hoffman to just writing this at the half way point and now I’m moving on - All you had to do was listen and I’d have been hooked till the end.
I find it amazing how many people get so frustrated at Tom’s interview strategies, a.k.a. “interrupting”. I never feel like he interrupts, but more so properly cuts in when more clarification is needed for the average person to understand, and in a certain way. I feel like Tom is outstanding at asking the right questions at the right time.
But it feels to me like he doesn't even let some people get a complete thought out before he interrupts. As though he can only hold a dozen or so words in his head at any one time. I'd like it better if he let the guest talk for a while, to cover some particular point in some more or less complete way, and then went back and dissected it.
when your comprehension is challenged it is more important to clarify the subject in order to make it objective. a interview is a debate that is not combative in nature.
Interrupting is Interrupting Sir
@@QueenxChico are you aware that you cannot have a deep conversation without interrupting some one in mid stride? why? well if you are sincere about fathoming the context of the conversation you would do your due diligence to seek clarity when clarity is needed. if you misunderstand the meaning from the concept you risk repeating the same conversation. the world has yet to see a mind capable of practicing perfect reason with perfect logic.
Yes Tom is trying to understand and clarify but he clearly isn't understanding it as most viewers are not so just learn a bit of patience and listen or don't interview someone who makes you feel insecure because you have little idea of what he is saying and your interruptions are not coming across well
I wonder if Donald ever heard of the Erin Valenti case? She was a Silicon Valley entrepreneur who was found dead in her car under extremely mysterious circumstances, and, before being found, she had made calls to loved ones about how what we know of as reality is all a, “ thought experiment”, and, “we’re in the matrix!”. Pretty eerie and fascinating simultaneously.
Great comment. Her death really shook me, in regards to this theory and the concepts Donald talks about. There is no explanation for her death other than a shut down. Her autopsy showed no foul play, no drugs/alcohol…her husband is a psychiatrist and said Erin had no psychiatric disorders or breaks ever. Completely interesting. Thank you for bringing her up. Thought experiment. Wow. Just so much to think about.
Watched the entire video and loved every bit. I have been doing deep research on the simulation theory and you asked Don every question that I had, so thank you for this!
The more research that I do, and the more theories that I create on my own make it seem as though we are certainly in a simulation. It's harder to prove it wrong than it is to prove it right.
Hi. One of the greatest mysteries in my opinion is lucid dreaming. For me personally it was like "holy shit, It's another reality" So what's the base reality??
Give Archaix a view
One of the greatest mysteries in my opinion is lucid dreaming. For me personally it was like "holy shit, It's another reality" So what's the base reality??
When I lucid dream (almost every night) it feels much more "real" than when I'm "awake " now I'm addicted to "dreaming "
@@twistersidecontrol almost every night? Wow... have you ever felt a pressure between eyebrows? (I felt that)... do you have a special routine?
There is no "routine" they grab my hand and tell me to come back saying there's more we want to show you
Does lucidity mean that you can influence what happens in a dream, or that you are aware of many details, but not always acting fully purposefully?
I believe these theories would explain why a person who has a stroke would change personality. My husband has had 11 strokes, and with each one has changed to another person.....the loss of memory of experiences....etc within the brain. So his Conscience Agents keep changing. In practical application, might this perhaps help those who have strokes and dementia? Sounds like it. Thank you for this interview, to you both, you have helped me understand better...what I already had observed with my headset. .....I realize that your questions are there to help the average person understand. Its a conversation, not a lecture. I prefer the conversation, as you gave it to us. TY
Listening to this is so surreal, especially after my 6 year old started asking me at just 4 years old "is this world really real?" 🤯
@@lesliehenderson7866 I felt the same when I was about 6 years old. My answer to him was... We don't really know for sure but we are all real to each other and that's all that really matters, this is your life so make it what you want.
So when your kid was born it was just the unboxing of a new VR headset for a conscious agent... And we're just a tutorial for them while at the same time running our own VR??
@@TyLeeGAMEZ I don't know what it is but I believe that when we are little we are closer to the truth. But some of us never lose that what if..
Yep.
.the bible said to be like children....my words but its there.
U have a "crystal child."
"hmmmm... Mr Anderson, we've been expecting you 😎"
Thanks, Tom, for this interesting interview. I think the "answer" to WHY all of these "consciousnesses" have infinite experiences might be that God (or "the one Consciousness" or "All there is" "Unity Consciousness" or whatever you want to call The ONE that includes everything) had to split to know itself. Being a singular unified consciousness, it could merely exist but it could never know itself; it was just pure awareness with no "other". Thus, all experiences are "the one" splitting to know itself in infinite ways...forever (since the "meeting and parting" possibilities are literally infinite). That includes everything in the phenomenal world: the bird on the branch, the wave hitting the shore, two people touching each other...everything that happens (or "seems" to happen). No two moments are the same, everything constantly changes so "God" can know itself in infinite ways.
"The notion of truth goes deeper than the notion of proof in that system."
I absolutely love it when modern science catches up to yogic philosophy. Tom can you please interrupt less. At least allow your guest complete a whole sentence.
“Interruptions with Tom”
"Two Bytes of an Apple"
What about the great scientist Tesla, who had "intuitive" dreams where mathmatical equations and actual structural blueprints where realized while he slept. Also, there must be more to measure the success of a life lived than just the passing on of genes and high fitness payoffs. He fathered no children and died penniless. Still his life was worthy and his contribution to science invaluable.
Haha, so true, Tom needs to talk less.
And Chloe Kardashian commercials😨
Unwatchable. His interrupt is rude and crass and breaks rythm. He talks during a movie
This entire book is being written while under the influence of 2 grams of psilocybin mushrooms taken every six hours. I have been taking these mushrooms to treat cluster headaches that I developed when I was 20 years old. I tried every treatment method possible but mushrooms were the only thing that brought me relief. I believe the reason these mushrooms are giving me relief is because it kills the colonies of candida in our stomachs by outcompeting it on a cellular level. I have a theory that the yeast candida sets up colonies inside your stomach that attach to your nervous system and are able to influence mood, personality, intelligence and overall health. I believe that candida enters our system through the use of alcohol, particularly hard alcohol. When yeast produces alcohol it goes dormant, but it doesn’t die. When we consume candida it enters our stomachs where it is able to come back to life and set up mycelial networks in our stomachs that attach to our central nervous system. Our stomachs speak to our brains via the central nervous system and I believe candida sets up a mycelial network that takes over our central nervous system like a parasite. I believe this parasite is responsible for a range of negative emotions including depression, anger, jealousy, resentment, possessiveness, violence, the need for destruction, anxiety and every negative human emotion. It is primarily responsible for fear and skepticism which you are experiencing right now while reading this book. Hard alcohol is called spirits because ancient people realized that it contained an intelligence. The use of plant medicine was able to free peoples minds from the grip of hard alcohol. This knowledge was lost to time, but this is the the theory that I believe. I believe that candida can mutate cells and is responsible for cancer. The reason science hasn’t been able to detect candida poisoning is that our entire society is suffering from candida poisoning and it is clouding our judgment as a society. In addition I believe when we try to pull a single cell of candida out of our bodies it dies when exposed to oxygen. To study the entire colony of candida in our systems we need further understanding of the way our central nervous system functions. I believe with further investigation my theory will be proven correct. I would urge the entire scientific community and world to band together to be able to test this theory with the use of the scientific method and hard data. I believe the reason society is so afraid of psilocybin mushrooms is because candida is influencing our thoughts and telling us that it will kill the colonies of candida in our bodies. This is why mushrooms smell so bad and taste so bad. Candida is able to control our thoughts by attaching to neurons in our brains via a branched mycelial network. Our brains are a branched mycelial network and evolved from fungus. This is why our bodies are mostly foreign microorganisms. Intelligence stems from networks of communication and candida has its own intelligence. This is why it’s able to influence our thoughts, the parasitic fungus is using it’s intelligence to control our thoughts and perception of reality. I believe candida is responsible for many of the terrible concepts that have been thought up over the course of human existence such as religion, war, slavery, ownership, currency, economics, nuclear weapons, sexual taboos, marriage, country and racial divisions, racism and every negative concept that is destroying our planet and dividing our species. I believe that these terrible ideas were all thought up while in a drunken state. Alcohol is dissociative and I believe that when you are drunk candida is literally taking over your body. This is also the reason you black out when you drink, the candida has total control at that point. The intelligence behind candida is obviously malevolent and seems to be hell bent on destroying the planet. I believe as a society we are all collectively suffering from candida poisoning. The reason I am able to see this information is because of the psilocybin that I am consuming. Psilocybin mushrooms contain their own intelligence and it appears to be peaceful, serene and hell bent on saving the planet and our species from extinction. I believe Vladimir Putin is suffering from extreme candida poisoning and it is causing him to put events in motion events that will lead to nuclear annihilation and the end of life on this planet as we know it. I believe the psilocybin mushrooms I am eating are trying to save the world from extinction. I feel possessed while writing a book but I realize now that it is the intelligence of the psilocybin showing me the true nature of reality. The side effects of consuming psilocybin have given me clarity of thought and mind. They have also removed all negative emotions that I once possessed and I have never felt more peaceful and intelligent. I want to save the world and humanity from extinction but I now know my thoughts and actions are being driven by a mushroom that is trying to save society from an evil candida colony that is corrupting our minds, bodies and souls. I also meditate and I believe that it has given me the awareness to receive a message from the psilocybin that has given me answers to some fundamental questions about reality and the nature of life. I would ask the reader to please and kindly keep an open mind while reading this book. I would ask you to please abandoned your preconceived notions of social structures, morality, religion, sexuality, aliens, the origins of life, physics, drug policies, health and fitness, plant medicine, what happens when we die, fungus the fungal family and psilocybin mushrooms, war, poverty, economics, climate change, currency, blockchain technology, artificial intelligence, political structures, ownership, food production systems, psychology, love, consciousness, evolution, marriage and domestic partnerships. This book will cover all of these topics in detail and will hopefully usher in a new era of peace, love and harmony with nature.
I know that many people will be skeptical of this theory but you should seriously ask yourself if that is that candida poisoning effecting your mind and judgement. It's ok to accept that we don't know everything. I accept that I don't know everything and am simply offering up theories that need to put to the test using the scientific method. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and we need to collectively gather proof to test these theories.
This guy is the real deal. So nice to see the geeks/academics catching up w/the spiritual master types and being able to put it (consciousness) into a different language. Fascinating....great job as usual Tom 🙋🏻♂️
Exactly!
put these guy in prison ,, en let him tell you after a couple of rapes , that it´s not real
Great guest!
Tom, hmm, amateur host sadly saying
1. Unbalanced loudness (comparing to DH)
2. Interrupting
3. SWEARING
Great interview Tom! If I only heard this without your refining questions I wouldn’t have understood. Interrupting him was essential. I appreciate that you’re already drawn to this and understand it enough to ask intelligent questions. Thank you!! And thank you Donald for your research and choosing to share it via podcasts for laymen. This is fascinating and validating!
It’s the perfect episode to share with “hard science” folks who think the idea of life being consciousness and things here not being quite what they seem is “off” or simply against science. Will be looking at more of Donald’s work to explore this!!
Maintaining a marriage despite having a deeper understanding of reality.... It's called "compartmentalization".. it gives the ability to FUNCTION enjoying life as a "creature on Earth" despite having the insight to see that we really AREN'T (constrained by that notion).
I have a hard time sometimes with compartmentalization... I get REALLY bored with the "everyday" conversations... so I either shut up entirely or risk "clearing the room" at the party by bringing up "red pill" conversations.
I'd love to party with Dr. Don!