Nick, how would you compare the FLX 10 to the Rane Four in regards to the sound quality? Pioneer should’ve created a better power plug. Looking to upgrade to either controller. Thanks
dam been mixing for like 6 years now and I FINALY have the money to upgrade and THIS IS GONNN BEEE ITTT, so glad I found your Chanel bro keep up the good work!
Really competitive price point. Pioneer were very deliberate with this one and they're going to sell a lot of these. Same price as the 1000 with a crap ton of new features...yeah, this'll do well. Your best review to date. You can tell you're putting serious effort and thought into how to create these. Hell of a job.
Nick, you are my freakin' Hero! I was going to build my multi op with the DDJ-1000, but now I am going to jump on this controller over the 1000... you have been instrumental in that decision! Pioneer DJ should be crediting you for their stock hike in late March!
Nick ever since I started watching your channel I can't get enough. Bro your videos are stupid funny yet informative at the same time. But I have a request I'm getting more serious about my lighting so make some videos about newer movingheads
Thanks for the review! so creative, and I really like the way you reviewed it. It was entertaining and informative. -I literally just got a DDJ 1000, and then all these videos about the FLX10 pop up. I'm not sold just yet on the FLX10, but I think it's a much better upgrade for anyone who is using the DDJ 400 or FLX4. Skip the FLX6 altogether if you want to upgrade. -For those who got the cash to burn for the extra buttons and features they might not use, go for it! 1000/SRT to FLX10 is slightly forward but still a lateral move. I don't think a lot of people will jump on the FLX train right away.
First off, that intro got me in tears! I just got a FLX-6 white in January that works amazing so I'm not in the market for this but loved the review. I also was strictly Serato but after I started messing with the Rekordbox interface, I couldn't go back. Keep up the great work 💪🏽
Great review definitely my next controller but it just sounds like functions that Virtual DJ already had e.g the stem eqs, and automix which I have been using on my Numark NS6 MK1. People may dislike VDJ, but they are ahead of the game when it comes to innovation and pushing boundaries.
Thank you Pioneer for introducing a new controller in the market. Hopefully this will STOP the PRICE gouging of people asking $2000 or more for a used 1000 SRT!
Definitely giving up on Traktor Kontrol S3 MK3 and Traktor Pro 3 software they are way behind the Stems curve and are adding licensed services to their software that I and others could care to use. So taking the plunge either with FlX10 and Rekord Box or Rane Four with Serato. Just as I say this Numark has now put out the Mix Stream Pro Go and Hercules has the Impulse T7 with the motorized platters. Yeah so many choices
The stache on the Serato guy was beautiful! The Bass stem in Serato is the one I use the most besides Acapella and Instrumental ones. I love just being able to swap the baselines instead of using the EQ which then effects the vocals.
Dope review 🙌🏿🙌🏿 This is 1st pioneer controller that I don’t think is better than it’s competitor, Rane 4. But only cause I prefer the paddle effect workflow.
NOW… I’ve been checking this controller since I first heard about and even had a chance to test drive for 1 week being I work for Gc pro and I absolutely love this controller. To me It smokes the Pioneer rev 7 hands down actually had the whole controller down in one day !minus the motorized platters (which I love) this controller is the one for 2023 in my book
Great intro!!! And thank you!!! I watch and watch this video. I wanna upgrade, definitely I gonna looking for this one. When I get my savings enough for this, I will buy it. Love your videos, but the way you show this one is like, this is the one 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏. Thanks again for take time to show us how good it is.
Great video review, Nick! First as a content creator, I know coming up with skits and executing them can be challenging. So hats off to you for conceptualizing the intro. Also congrats with having a Pioneer relationship! I thought the company was a little upset with you a while back! LOL! As far as the new controller, I like the leaps forward these companies in general are making. I need a smaller setup and was deciding between the Rev 7 and Rane Four. Several reviewers hinted that people should wait until NAMM for more announcements. So this must be the mystery surprise launch. Decisions... decisions.
Great review Nick! Love the size of the jog wheels on this thing. Wish it was labeled out for Serato though. Maybe a skin for it with Serato labels? I'll wait for now.
This is what I was waiting for a long time, cause I wanted to upgrade my ddj100. Got tired of waiting and got the XZ instead don’t regret the decision. I will say this it is a must have if you want to upgrade no second thoughts. The stems ain’t as good as serato thou. They can still do better. Thanks Nick good show!
Outstanding video production. Great script, smooth pace and so on... Obviously the review is on par with it.. thanks you. The only "bad" thing is that DJ's will need to pre-produce (carefully planning) ever mix. so for some it will be a time to learn about Workflow..
Excellent Nick! I’m sold on those great stem combo lock features, visuals on the platters, the fader and the light show functions. I’d never auto-blend though… lol!. I will trade my SRT1000. Thanks again!
YES!!😊 I've been waiting for rekordbox to do this. My ddj1000 is pretty sweet, especially with new capabilities... But, I gotta grab this controller for sure💪🎶. I was about to switch to the Rane4 ( out of stock).. now I'm glad it was. And Flx10 is cheaper too. PIONEER U CAME THRU IN TIME🫡.... Alright, alright- fan of ur videos. Great video for sure ‼️. Keep on rockin 🎛🎧🎚🎶🎵 Nick!
😂😂 great intro. I feel the performance pad modes are definitely lacking. Especially for serato users. No scratch bank or slicer effect. Instead we get beat jump and auto loop which already have dedicated buttons above. But you do get pad FX which can help with layering of effects. I however wish they would have just taken the S11 pad modes and added stems like the Rane. Love the jog wheels tho. Looks like an awesome controller. Can’t wait to get mine.
Amazing video 😭😭 I also have 2 questions, out of the RANE 4 and FLX10 which would would you prefer? And secondly, on the decks are you able to have waveform screen on one side and logo on the other?
The cheaters skit was classic 😂😂😂😂I actually thought I was watching a different video lol, mad respect Nick! I need to weigh my decision on what to switch to, I have Serato aaaaaannnd in the market for an upgrade, I was waiting to see what this would bring, now to decide FLX-10 or Rane Four…hhhhmmmm
🤔 I'm in the market for a new controller, but really debating to get this or make the switch over to the Rane 4.😩 Also, the intros are getting better, which could only mean so are those sponsor checks.😉💪
With the FLX 10 running Serato and firmware 1.01 (a must if you want Serato to connect to the controller) I can’t seem to change the display mode on the jogs. Am I missing something? I hope Pioneer didn’t take this feature away from us Serato users.
Just wondering if the Stem Isolation needs a particular type of file..? If i load an MP3 of a 60's song, does it isolate it regularly? Can it really be so easy-going??
I won't say it's worth upgrading if you already have a DDJ 1000/1000 SRT but it sure is hell an awesome time to be a DJ. We have all sorts of toys dropping back to back. A lil something for everyone. Actually, all the heavy hitter manufacturers are making it really hard to make a decision when it comes to what piece of gear to go with. I'm not even in the market for a controller. I ditched the laptop years ago and have been strictly playing standalone mode but this and Rane Four make me want to dip my feet back into the controller game just to play around and have some fun
As a Rekordbox 1000 user I don’t think I’m going to upgrade. I’m pretty happy with my 1000. Sweet controller but I don’t think I’ll necessarily need all the new features for it. The Dmx lighting control on the controller is nice tho.
Hi Nick and Community - I have a question hoping someone can answer for me. Please excuse the long explanation as I am detailing what I am trying to accomplish: First, thank you for all your content. I am in the market for a 4 channel controller, which as been difficult for me. I am upgrading from a DDJ - Rev 1. I’ve literally tried every 4 channel controller on the market, starting with the Rane 4. However, none worked for me and I see that the FLX10 or the MIxon 8 Pro (has the paddles same as DDJ Rev-1-I can live without the paddles if needed) may be an option for me. My question is the “Auto Loop” button. As you can see on the Rev 1, there is an Autoloop button at the top of the controller on both sides. The button is excellent at catching the bar as soon as you press it and then chosing 4,8,16 - etc. The DDJ FLX10 does not have this button. There are 2 buttons, one to start the loop and another on where to end the loop. Difficult for me because the first button to start the loop does not always catch the beginning of a bar. \My question is, can an Autoloop button be mapped to the performance pad on the FLX10? Any help appreciated!
Hello! I also bought a FLX 10 and it doesn't show me the four display modes in the display on the wheel. I updated the firmware to 1.11 and I use serato 3.04. In your video I saw that it works to change the display mode on the wheels. what software versions did you use? thank you in advance!
I’ve been using my SRT for the last three years and dropped it and had to order a new controller. I got the Rane4 and I am simply stunned at how good the build quality is and how solid and professional everything feels to the touch. To be honest, as much as I love my SRT, it feels like a toy compared to the Rane. Plus that four has about 1 million more features than the FLX 10. Looks like a great controller but I don’t think they can touch the Rane and I’m glad I got it
@@durellteesdale7297 verdict is BUTTER! Feel way better than the 1000 platters. no tension adjust needed IMO. light enough to really throw the platter, heavy enough to keep it where you need it
This guy is awesome. Even if I didn't like DJ gear I would still watch. His humor , energy and personality are the best!
I appreciate that!
What a great intro !! 😂 this style of review has been needed in the dj scene for a while now !!
This made me laugh so hard LOL
Nick, how would you compare the FLX 10 to the Rane Four in regards to the sound quality?
Pioneer should’ve created a better power plug. Looking to upgrade to either controller.
Thanks
I was wondering why I couldn't skip that commercial at the start of the review, only to realize this was the intro. Great job Nick!
dam been mixing for like 6 years now and I FINALY have the money to upgrade and THIS IS GONNN BEEE ITTT, so glad I found your Chanel bro keep up the good work!
VS the 1000SRT:
- Better Sound
- MUCH Better Platters w/ so many screen options
- Next-Gen Magvel feels AMAZING
- One of a Kind Stem Controls
think you sold me Nick
but is it really better than my epic DDJ SX2 (3 think emojis) :P
The stem separation will be done by the software, not the hardware, right?
@@RealSantahunterstill rocking an SX2 as well lol. And I ordered a denon prime 4 so should be getting that soon.
@@SOULKRATESofficial of course lol
I bought DDJ-FLX6 2 years ago, and now I'm going to buy this controller (this video convinced me of that) 😅
Really competitive price point. Pioneer were very deliberate with this one and they're going to sell a lot of these. Same price as the 1000 with a crap ton of new features...yeah, this'll do well.
Your best review to date. You can tell you're putting serious effort and thought into how to create these. Hell of a job.
The 1000srt is $300 less than the FLX10. And 1000 is $400 less than. Where did you get the same price point?
You are so diferent !! A fresh take on reviews ! Thank you !
Love it 🔥🔥🔥 I'm in between flx 10 and Rane 4, I have to pick one I'm going to ride with. Long live the DJ'S
best first "look & review" of all the ones out there... mojaxx... crossfader... hands down.
Nick you killed this review by far the best one !!! The into was amazing
Nick, you are my freakin' Hero! I was going to build my multi op with the DDJ-1000, but now I am going to jump on this controller over the 1000... you have been instrumental in that decision! Pioneer DJ should be crediting you for their stock hike in late March!
Nick ever since I started watching your channel I can't get enough. Bro your videos are stupid funny yet informative at the same time. But I have a request I'm getting more serious about my lighting so make some videos about newer movingheads
Greatest intro in the history of RUclips
Thanks for the review! so creative, and I really like the way you reviewed it. It was entertaining and informative.
-I literally just got a DDJ 1000, and then all these videos about the FLX10 pop up. I'm not sold just yet on the FLX10, but I think it's a much better upgrade for anyone who is using the DDJ 400 or FLX4. Skip the FLX6 altogether if you want to upgrade.
-For those who got the cash to burn for the extra buttons and features they might not use, go for it! 1000/SRT to FLX10 is slightly forward but still a lateral move. I don't think a lot of people will jump on the FLX train right away.
First off, that intro got me in tears! I just got a FLX-6 white in January that works amazing so I'm not in the market for this but loved the review. I also was strictly Serato but after I started messing with the Rekordbox interface, I couldn't go back. Keep up the great work 💪🏽
Bro recommend me of the flx6 iwana purchase one for my gigs
@@virussdj6683 man I love it. I truly don't see the fuss. I have a separate mixer so the RCA outputs aren't a big deal.
@DJ 8-BIT thanks man ,but iwish to use it both on TV,radio and club though with out aseparate mixer
Woke up this morning, got the alert and ordered immediately 💿💻💿
Great review definitely my next controller but it just sounds like functions that Virtual DJ already had e.g the stem eqs, and automix which I have been using on my Numark NS6 MK1.
People may dislike VDJ, but they are ahead of the game when it comes to innovation and pushing boundaries.
Thank you Pioneer for introducing a new controller in the market. Hopefully this will STOP the PRICE gouging of people asking $2000 or more for a used 1000 SRT!
Ive been mixing on the flx 6 around a year now not upgrading anytime soon but definitely will be considering the flx 10
Definitely giving up on Traktor Kontrol S3 MK3 and Traktor Pro 3 software they are way behind the Stems curve and are adding licensed services to their software that I and others could care to use. So taking the plunge either with FlX10 and Rekord Box or Rane Four with Serato. Just as I say this Numark has now put out the Mix Stream Pro Go and Hercules has the Impulse T7 with the motorized platters. Yeah so many choices
The stache on the Serato guy was beautiful! The Bass stem in Serato is the one I use the most besides Acapella and Instrumental ones. I love just being able to swap the baselines instead of using the EQ which then effects the vocals.
I was thinking that. When u have to use the restroom lol. Automix lol.
My Dude!!😂😂😂. This is truly why I love your content. You think and talk like how I wish I can!!❤️❤️❤️
This freaking guy!! And Nick Spinelli owning it!!!
This is gold! Loved the intro. Well done 👏🏼
Dope review 🙌🏿🙌🏿 This is 1st pioneer controller that I don’t think is better than it’s competitor, Rane 4. But only cause I prefer the paddle effect workflow.
Rane Four is a better controller overall. Better stems work flow. Can control Serato FX. Better looking. Better layout.
NOW… I’ve been checking this controller since I first heard about and even had a chance to test drive for 1 week being I work for Gc pro and I absolutely love this controller. To me It smokes the Pioneer rev 7 hands down actually had the whole controller down in one day !minus the motorized platters (which I love) this controller is the one for 2023 in my book
Solid Review Nick! Keep up the good work pal - All the releases from Pioneer is making my FLX-6 feel like a dinosaur :-)
Great intro!!! And thank you!!! I watch and watch this video. I wanna upgrade, definitely I gonna looking for this one. When I get my savings enough for this, I will buy it. Love your videos, but the way you show this one is like, this is the one 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏. Thanks again for take time to show us how good it is.
Nick, test the New Rane vs. The FLX-10 controller and give it a honest comparison. Love your content, U ROCK!!!
Great video review, Nick! First as a content creator, I know coming up with skits and executing them can be challenging. So hats off to you for conceptualizing the intro. Also congrats with having a Pioneer relationship! I thought the company was a little upset with you a while back! LOL! As far as the new controller, I like the leaps forward these companies in general are making. I need a smaller setup and was deciding between the Rev 7 and Rane Four. Several reviewers hinted that people should wait until NAMM for more announcements. So this must be the mystery surprise launch. Decisions... decisions.
That Dre/Em mix was 🔥
Great review Nick! Love the size of the jog wheels on this thing. Wish it was labeled out for Serato though. Maybe a skin for it with Serato labels? I'll wait for now.
Thanks Nicky love the humor and the review
Very natural at this, mate! Great review too. Picking one up this week.
I just seen this on Facebook and I knew my man had some tea on it! Good looking out!
Best intro I've seen on your channel! I didn't FF thru it. Props...
I've never enjoyed watching a review video as much as I did this one. Your energy is fucking awesome! Thank you for the video. :)
Hey thanks so much bro! 🙏🏼
You nailed it Nick...great intro..but that Cheaters music in the background got you the like button bro
Haha I used Serato stems to extract that music from a cheaters episode
This is what I was waiting for a long time, cause I wanted to upgrade my ddj100. Got tired of waiting and got the XZ instead don’t regret the decision. I will say this it is a must have if you want to upgrade no second thoughts. The stems ain’t as good as serato thou. They can still do better. Thanks Nick good show!
Wow this is almost like a on the spot production!!!!
Is dj/producing/live performance!
Love the intro. You are a genius. They need to make this plug and play with VDJ.
Ohhh maaaannnn this is the best ever intro in all the world.... You killed it... 😂😂😂
Outstanding video production. Great script, smooth pace and so on... Obviously the review is on par with it.. thanks you. The only "bad" thing is that DJ's will need to pre-produce (carefully planning) ever mix. so for some it will be a time to learn about Workflow..
Intimate features :D :D :D Great review Nick!
@NickSpinelli hey Nick, looks like you have a spammer friend! 😮💨Unless I really have won some DJ gear?? :D
already ordered it but definately feeling better about my purchase after this! :)
Please recommend me of a secure website to purchase one am in saudi arabia
Best intro yet!
Excellent Nick! I’m sold on those great stem combo lock features, visuals on the platters, the fader and the light show functions. I’d never auto-blend though… lol!. I will trade my SRT1000. Thanks again!
Rekordbox stems doesn't sound too good yet.
@@dancarthen3634….. better worse than Serato stems?
Nice review! Looks like a great controller. A bunch of features on the hardware. I have a DDJ SZ and I'm wondering to switch to FLX10.
Awesome start for this video, and very good break down on this controller
YES!!😊 I've been waiting for rekordbox to do this. My ddj1000 is pretty sweet, especially with new capabilities... But, I gotta grab this controller for sure💪🎶. I was about to switch to the Rane4 ( out of stock).. now I'm glad it was. And Flx10 is cheaper too. PIONEER U CAME THRU IN TIME🫡.... Alright, alright- fan of ur videos. Great video for sure ‼️. Keep on rockin 🎛🎧🎚🎶🎵 Nick!
I I’m up grading my srt1000 for flx10 is on the way 😊
Bro, your demo mix was tough!
Good review! That deck link/ stem thing is the shiz!!
Can someone help me serato no working with my new flx10
😂😂 great intro. I feel the performance pad modes are definitely lacking. Especially for serato users. No scratch bank or slicer effect. Instead we get beat jump and auto loop which already have dedicated buttons above. But you do get pad FX which can help with layering of effects. I however wish they would have just taken the S11 pad modes and added stems like the Rane. Love the jog wheels tho. Looks like an awesome controller. Can’t wait to get mine.
Omg had me Rollin' on the floor Nick 😂😂 that intro is fyre 👌
love the creativity, good stuff Nick!
Looks great,I’m going to make that switch from my old pioneer dj xdj rx3
Best review yet it was hilarious and informative great job nick.
Hope they continue dual software support, or Pioneer buying Serato 🎉🥳
Amazing video 😭😭 I also have 2 questions, out of the RANE 4 and FLX10 which would would you prefer? And secondly, on the decks are you able to have waveform screen on one side and logo on the other?
Still rocking the built in touchpad on my macbook. One of these days I'll buy a deck.
good sounding systems DJ
FLX10 is ordered. I upgraded from the 1000SRT, wich i never was really happy with.
Hi Nick Great review - do you still think we will still use a separate external Mixer with this unit for weddings ? Thanks 🙏
The cheaters skit was classic 😂😂😂😂I actually thought I was watching a different video lol, mad respect Nick!
I need to weigh my decision on what to switch to, I have Serato aaaaaannnd in the market for an upgrade, I was waiting to see what this would bring, now to decide FLX-10 or Rane Four…hhhhmmmm
Thx! Great review! I have the ddj rev 7, i set my stems on my upper cue points.
Troppo bella e spettacolare. Bravo bravo 👍
🤔 I'm in the market for a new controller, but really debating to get this or make the switch over to the Rane 4.😩 Also, the intros are getting better, which could only mean so are those sponsor checks.😉💪
I love the intro, but I thought I was on the wrong RUclips video you fooled me love it
🤣🤣
Next level production my guy 🚀 🚀
Great review Nick! I am stuck with my SZ and have the Stems mapped! May consider this but not a must get!
Dang bro 😂🤣 funny Af! You are a good salesman, I’m sold! Luckily I’m a Rekordbox fan.
Im considering this unit as my DJX AZ order is still pending 5 weeks now, plus that pending order doesn’t have stem control like this..
Did the same thing. Ordered mine yesterday. The AZ is not very portable also no marvel pro cross fader. I will keep 1800 in my pocket.
1000srt user here. If I was to get something new the Rane 4 would be my choice. I like it's stem split control better.
Which one you prefer that or the Rane 4? The Rev 7 definitely top 3 in my opinion.
Can you manually select or map your lighting if it doesn't show up automatically in the search bar?
That intro 😂 Its a solid piece of kit. I’m gonna get one!
Bro! The best RUclipsr!! Hands down lol
With the FLX 10 running Serato and firmware 1.01 (a must if you want Serato to connect to the controller) I can’t seem to change the display mode on the jogs. Am I missing something? I hope Pioneer didn’t take this feature away from us Serato users.
NICK needs an OSCAR award for this😂❤
😂😂😂😂
Thinking about it, what are the bigger differences in Serato? I use Serato and I am thinking of buying this controller.
Just wondering if the Stem Isolation needs a particular type of file..? If i load an MP3 of a 60's song, does it isolate it regularly? Can it really be so easy-going??
Nick, you are hilarious. Loved the review. Now I’m torn between getting Rane Four or FLX10.
I won't say it's worth upgrading if you already have a DDJ 1000/1000 SRT but it sure is hell an awesome time to be a DJ. We have all sorts of toys dropping back to back. A lil something for everyone. Actually, all the heavy hitter manufacturers are making it really hard to make a decision when it comes to what piece of gear to go with. I'm not even in the market for a controller. I ditched the laptop years ago and have been strictly playing standalone mode but this and Rane Four make me want to dip my feet back into the controller game just to play around and have some fun
As a Rekordbox 1000 user I don’t think I’m going to upgrade. I’m pretty happy with my 1000. Sweet controller but I don’t think I’ll necessarily need all the new features for it. The Dmx lighting control on the controller is nice tho.
So the DMX feature for the lights can’t be used with the Serato software? Only Rekordbox?
Brother have you made a video about how to secure partnerships with venues? Is that something that you do? Thanks
Very creative. Hollywood is calling soon.Can I get an autograph before you get discovered
How do you change the ring color from white to match your brand
Does one still need the M2 chip to run stems on this new controller or can one use their Mac 2015 ?
Thx Nick! You made my morning:)
Hi Nick and Community - I have a question hoping someone can answer for me. Please excuse the long explanation as I am detailing what I am trying to accomplish:
First, thank you for all your content.
I am in the market for a 4 channel controller, which as been difficult for me. I am upgrading from a DDJ - Rev 1. I’ve literally tried every 4 channel controller on the market, starting with the Rane 4.
However, none worked for me and I see that the FLX10 or the MIxon 8 Pro (has the paddles same as DDJ Rev-1-I can live without the paddles if needed) may be an option for me. My question is the “Auto Loop” button.
As you can see on the Rev 1, there is an Autoloop button at the top of the controller on both sides. The button is excellent at catching the bar as soon as you press it and then chosing 4,8,16 - etc.
The DDJ FLX10 does not have this button. There are 2 buttons, one to start the loop and another on where to end the loop. Difficult for me because the first button to start the loop does not always catch the beginning of a bar.
\My question is, can an Autoloop button be mapped to the performance pad on the FLX10?
Any help appreciated!
Are the jogwheels mechanical like on the DDJ-1000 or are they touch capacitive like on the FLX-6? Does anyone know?
Mechanical
Pass, SRT still serving me well.
one of your best yet Nick!!! Time to replace my DDJ1000 !!!
Peep the Rane 4 though
Thank you for the terrific review! Are you going to review the Rane Four as well?
No one sent me one 😫
Hello! I also bought a FLX 10 and it doesn't show me the four display modes in the display on the wheel. I updated the firmware to 1.11 and I use serato 3.04.
In your video I saw that it works to change the display mode on the wheels. what software versions did you use? thank you in advance!
every feature mentioned has been available with Virtual DJ for well over a year
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I’ve been using my SRT for the last three years and dropped it and had to order a new controller. I got the Rane4 and I am simply stunned at how good the build quality is and how solid and professional everything feels to the touch. To be honest, as much as I love my SRT, it feels like a toy compared to the Rane. Plus that four has about 1 million more features than the FLX 10. Looks like a great controller but I don’t think they can touch the Rane and I’m glad I got it
Feeling the same! Rane 4 baby
Answer this . WHAT is verdict on the JOGs , 1000SRT/FLX10 ( tension adjust ) vs R4. How do you feel , honestly ?
@@durellteesdale7297 actually waiting on my Rane 4 still haha...will report back
@@durellteesdale7297 The jogs on the Rane 4 feel better than any Pioneer product, ANY.
@@durellteesdale7297 verdict is BUTTER! Feel way better than the 1000 platters. no tension adjust needed IMO. light enough to really throw the platter, heavy enough to keep it where you need it