ELITE COUSTILLIER vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT | AoE II: Definitive Edition

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • The Coustillier is one of the unique units of the Burgundians in Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Lords of the West. It is a Cavalry unit that can charge its attack to +35 increased damage by moving, discharging its extra damage on its first attack against a unit (not buildings). This bonus damage is increased to 44 in the elite version.
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Комментарии • 125

  • @FuckTheNewAliasSystem
    @FuckTheNewAliasSystem 3 года назад +28

    Low HP units like Halbs die in an instant.
    High Quality Units like Leitis and Boyars win in equal numbers but loose in equal res because they cost alot more.
    And this doesnt even consider hit and run tactics.
    Seems balanced.

  • @wavenp
    @wavenp 3 года назад +75

    For this demonstration, I think it would have been best to have equal cost armies on both side and not equal number of units. Some units are good because they are cost effective.

    • @ProfNekko
      @ProfNekko 3 года назад +6

      plus the whole key of the Coustillier is that they excel in scenarios of equal or superior numbers since their charge is just about their everything and they are not very impressive a unit after the initial hit.

    • @gabrielefarina9517
      @gabrielefarina9517 3 года назад +1

      @@ProfNekko in fact these kind of simulations are not "that" useful, e.g. genoese crossbowmen would have wiped out coustillers with just some infantry units to absorb the initial hit

    • @benedictjajo
      @benedictjajo Год назад

      @@gabrielefarina9517 and genoese crossbow would get rekted if the coustelliers also have infantry to keep the enemy infantry busy while they flank and kill the crossbows. Your point?

  • @neonk4068
    @neonk4068 3 года назад +51

    Wipes out 50% of the enemy's DPS in five seconds
    Seems balanced

  • @Avinash_Lincoln
    @Avinash_Lincoln 3 года назад +21

    Coustellier is added to the game to further glorify Teutonic Knights.
    Deus la Vult.

  • @gylaggal3896
    @gylaggal3896 3 года назад +21

    The fight against Leitis are very interesting. A one-time charge unit vs a always charge unit

    • @mussolini1900
      @mussolini1900 3 года назад

      Leitis aren't necessarily broken, you just have to take out their monasteries... And Pikes don't have too much armor to negate anyway

  • @Imperiused
    @Imperiused 3 года назад +51

    All hail the rise of the Flaming Camel! The only truly karmic response to Coustillier

  • @deadlift9360
    @deadlift9360 3 года назад +20

    When ppl see this, they dont realize that if you micro the unit (charge attack > kite 15 sec > charge attack) its even more busted. Can destroy teutonic knights easily too.

    • @ryankaiser2702
      @ryankaiser2702 3 года назад +4

      But realistically the AI isn’t smart enough for such abuse. Only human players can be so devious.

    • @deadlift9360
      @deadlift9360 3 года назад +5

      @@ryankaiser2702 yeah ofc, who else is supposed to micro it?

    • @boarfaceswinejaw4516
      @boarfaceswinejaw4516 3 года назад +1

      in reality you'd have a whole slew of pikemen between the coustilliers and your ranged units.

    • @HideyoshiKinoshita84
      @HideyoshiKinoshita84 3 года назад +5

      People are reporting the cooldown is more like +40 seconds, so 15 seconds is really off.

    • @deadlift9360
      @deadlift9360 3 года назад +2

      Looked shorter in Heras video. Then again instant killing all the villagers in a raid shouldnt be.

  • @philipatkins5696
    @philipatkins5696 3 года назад +52

    Elephant archers finally make sense

    • @undertyped1
      @undertyped1 3 года назад +2

      The elephant archers deserved to lose though, they are the worst unit for cost in the game.

  • @madeiraislander
    @madeiraislander 3 года назад +69

    that first attack is completely insane, will probably be nerfed soon.

    • @Crono1020
      @Crono1020 3 года назад +4

      Lol 6 months ago!

    • @madeiraislander
      @madeiraislander 3 года назад +4

      @@Crono1020 yes i could see it coming xD we all did!

    • @aliceliddell9436
      @aliceliddell9436 3 года назад +1

      in an actual game the recharge time is far more significant

    • @madeiraislander
      @madeiraislander 3 года назад +1

      @@aliceliddell9436 it was nerfed and they don't do as much dmg now either :)

  • @theowlogram888
    @theowlogram888 3 года назад +7

    It seems that they have a bug that let their charge deal double the damage to cav archer type unit. That's why their charge one shots mangudai. But they still can't kill ele archers 11

  • @Mexican00b
    @Mexican00b 3 года назад +10

    +40 extra attack on first damage impact... yeah, archer/infantry civs are fked

    • @thessop9439
      @thessop9439 3 года назад +4

      And it was nerfed from 55
      Still I think theres a chance. Massed scorpions, mass halbs and archer spam may have a chance

    • @loganvervicos8395
      @loganvervicos8395 3 года назад +1

      Teutons don’t agree with you

  • @andrew7008
    @andrew7008 3 года назад +11

    Come for the Coustillier, stay for those Flaming Camels.

  • @DCdabest
    @DCdabest 3 года назад +8

    Everytine I see an archer unit used in this fight I cringe.
    Especially Mangudai and Kipchaks. Like; no one leaves them standing still in a fight against a melee unit.

  • @__lim494
    @__lim494 3 года назад +33

    another op unique cavalry!

    • @ahstinfixsnhc9765
      @ahstinfixsnhc9765 3 года назад +2

      I agree it's scary how fast they killed those fully upgraded mangani

  • @seiko9361
    @seiko9361 2 года назад +2

    After this video, i will never underestimate them again.

  • @rusbucketmartinjerabek7069
    @rusbucketmartinjerabek7069 3 года назад +3

    They should cost more. 40 seconds cooldown on charge is reasonable, but the cost is way too low. Something like 70 food and 75 gold would make more sense. It's still heavy cavalry.

  • @magala9287
    @magala9287 3 года назад +2

    Coustilliers: new animation means first strike bonus!

  • @alexanfung
    @alexanfung 3 года назад +2

    they can even fxxk up Cataphract, so it must be nerfed

  • @keanuvernon6177
    @keanuvernon6177 3 года назад +2

    The Teutons one is unrealistic outcome because after the first hit they would most likely get out of there.

    • @nukesomething5518
      @nukesomething5518 3 года назад

      back them up with monks to force them to engage go box formation ez

  • @cmlcml415
    @cmlcml415 3 года назад +5

    another Leitis... except, cannot kill Teutonic Knight lol

  • @ThuanNguyen26090
    @ThuanNguyen26090 3 года назад +1

    LOTR flash back
    EPIC Horn of Haldarim
    Battle Olliphants arrived
    King Theoden shout: "Reform the line" and all Rohan Calvary Charge. This scenario is perfect for that.

  • @ardaarsen
    @ardaarsen 3 года назад +2

    rip villagers. Change mechanics or modify unit cost or attack

  • @jeroen92
    @jeroen92 3 года назад +6

    That first strike bonus should only work on infantry/archers not all units.

    • @atikeakngenc601
      @atikeakngenc601 3 года назад

      No. First strike bonus work all unit. Watch them tarkan part.

    • @windwindy5356
      @windwindy5356 3 года назад +7

      He said “should only”

    • @ahstinfixsnhc9765
      @ahstinfixsnhc9765 3 года назад

      Nah it should only work on calvary units so halbs are still effective lol
      These things should basically one shot halbs right?

    • @jeroen92
      @jeroen92 3 года назад +1

      @@ahstinfixsnhc9765 thats exactly the reason it should only work on infantry and archers, it will mean you have to make cavalry (or cav archers) of your own to counter it, rather than braindead halbs. It makes it an interesting unit as opposed to an expensive anti cavalry alternative.

    • @bcpratt6979
      @bcpratt6979 3 года назад

      @@ahstinfixsnhc9765 Yes, they one/two shot halbs. I don't they need a nerf though, as there regular attack makes them horrible vs strong calvary units

  • @thedyrus
    @thedyrus 3 года назад +4

    Flemish Militia is more effective than Kamayuk?

  • @raulfernandez57
    @raulfernandez57 3 года назад +1

    From the cavarly units, I think this one has the coolest look

  • @RubenVianna
    @RubenVianna 3 года назад +7

    Place cheap trash units in the front to make them waste the power charge, then counter with halbediers

    • @adnanhuzaifa6391
      @adnanhuzaifa6391 3 года назад +6

      halbs are trash as well sooooo

    • @kell2859
      @kell2859 3 года назад +2

      Just throw halbs at it and hope the enemy doesn’t micro

  • @Dwane77Loki
    @Dwane77Loki 3 года назад

    I like the stat boards you put up before each fight!

  • @adnanhuzaifa6391
    @adnanhuzaifa6391 3 года назад +1

    I don't think they should remove that because it is what makes this troop unique I suggested a few months ago to add this ability to lancers coz it makes for various tactics and this unit is not so op paladins and leitis can spank it hard so can every heavy cavalry plus you can just lure them to charge and kill useless units and bring halbs or counters to kill them because after charge they have mediocre stats but I loved the concept

    • @annaairahala9462
      @annaairahala9462 3 года назад

      I don't think anyone is saying remove it, just nerf it so it's not so strong

  • @HyunAOP
    @HyunAOP 3 года назад +9

    Chaaaargeeee

    • @emilyding2496
      @emilyding2496 3 года назад

      BUG OUT LIKE CRAZY

    • @Avinash_Lincoln
      @Avinash_Lincoln 3 года назад +1

      Teutonic Knight: catches that Lance and pulls him down and kill them.
      Coustellier: wait this is not fair.

  • @Sagar_Patelv28
    @Sagar_Patelv28 3 года назад +1

    I think you should try creating this video after update coz coustellier has atk bug against archer units

  • @crusr.9163
    @crusr.9163 3 года назад +6

    Looks like it’s gonna be a melee cavalier with micro attack tactic

  • @felipecapusso3263
    @felipecapusso3263 3 года назад +7

    This is so broken it isn't even funny

  • @piotrj333
    @piotrj333 3 года назад +1

    were cataphrekts missing from video? Anyway cost of that unit is way too low for its power. Only unit of similar cost that won vs them were leitis and teutonic knights, while Leitis won barerly and are worse vs archers and TKs could be hit by them and after retreat to hit 40 seconds later again....Also how to strategize against them lol. Build Rams to take charged attack? 55 food + 55 gold makes it really hard to build against them, like if gold is on map the only counter to those I think are 4 relic leitis or 4 relic lithuanian paladins or Teuton paladins.

    • @thomasj3421
      @thomasj3421 3 года назад +1

      Cataphracts are in 0:27

    • @piotrj333
      @piotrj333 3 года назад +1

      @@thomasj3421 oh thanks, i was blind.

  • @angeloeleo12
    @angeloeleo12 Год назад

    Now let's compare the cost of Coustillier with other units that aren't defeated by them in video, like Boyar costs 25 more gold per unit than Coustillier so to create 10 of them you will need 250 more gold. With that extra 250 gold, you can make 5 more Coustillier, even though they requires more food as well but farming is easier than collecting gold.
    Also, Burgundians have a vineyard bonus so their farmers can generate gold and their relics generate food at the same speed as gold. Considering all these facts Coustillier can easily win against all unique units.

  • @KenWu-pl3or
    @KenWu-pl3or 3 года назад +2

    OP as fook

  • @TheSpiritedFendron
    @TheSpiritedFendron 9 месяцев назад

    say what you want about Burgundians, but they'll forever have the best theme in the game

  • @didi-ri7fd
    @didi-ri7fd 3 года назад +6

    Lol he beat kamayuk

  • @ewok007
    @ewok007 3 года назад +1

    Yey, mamelukes are the BEST!!!!

  • @oossgl
    @oossgl 3 года назад +1

    They are doing double damage to archers? Besides the 11+44?

  • @jackluggingham7064
    @jackluggingham7064 3 года назад

    Just a note. If beserker gangs was researched, the beserker would have done bonus damage. Is this post imp?

  • @RobertoLee09
    @RobertoLee09 3 года назад +3

    It can hit & run to kill war elephant easy.

  • @undertyped1
    @undertyped1 3 года назад +1

    All units? try coustilliers vs villagers!

  • @prankstereddy
    @prankstereddy 3 года назад +3

    Camels and elephants did so well against the OP pointy Bois.

  • @matthiasvandekerkhove3594
    @matthiasvandekerkhove3594 3 года назад +3

    They are a true 'hit-and-run' unit. Hit the enemy hard when fully charged, then retreat to heal and reload.

    • @theowlogram888
      @theowlogram888 3 года назад +1

      The charge takes actually quite a long time, you're better of finishing them off right on the spot rather than letting them a chance to replenish their numbers.

    • @matthiasvandekerkhove3594
      @matthiasvandekerkhove3594 3 года назад

      @@theowlogram888 use other units to finish them off. Never perform an attack with only coustilliers.

    • @DommHavai
      @DommHavai 3 года назад +1

      @@matthiasvandekerkhove3594 Easier said than done. Do you realise how much eco do you need to pair coustilier with handcannons (basically their only ranged option)?

    • @matthiasvandekerkhove3594
      @matthiasvandekerkhove3594 3 года назад

      @@DommHavai if you can't even afford handcannons, you're done anyway. If you can't afford handcannons, you definitely can't afford siege.

  • @suyash5608
    @suyash5608 3 года назад +2

    do they charge their attack again when moving from one unit to other?

    • @scottk9273
      @scottk9273 3 года назад +6

      It charges overtime, like a monks faith meter.

    • @suyash5608
      @suyash5608 3 года назад +1

      @@scottk9273 I see. thanks

  • @dan-lee
    @dan-lee 3 года назад +3

    They basically a cavalry jouster.

  • @Dino2939
    @Dino2939 3 года назад

    must be funny to have a army of this bois + the tech that all villagers turn into flemish milita and then overrun enemy with max army possible :D

  • @napoleoncomplex2712
    @napoleoncomplex2712 3 года назад

    Halbs backed by archers to kill any that try to cycle charge could be a good approach.

  • @thomasj3421
    @thomasj3421 3 года назад +1

    OP

  • @Ironmaidenportugal
    @Ironmaidenportugal 3 года назад +3

    first attack kill anything that is 45 hp or below.

  • @diegotroncozogonzalez6426
    @diegotroncozogonzalez6426 3 года назад

    Elite teutonic knight... interesting

  • @OlrikMeister
    @OlrikMeister 3 года назад +4

    The first attack should do max double damage not this 5x damage

  • @nwkr
    @nwkr 3 года назад

    If this comparison is to provide any value, it needs to compare units by the cost of resources. Doing a straight 15 units versus 15 units is pointless.

  • @893263007
    @893263007 3 года назад +3

    Yeah they're a bit...much...

  • @taowroland8697
    @taowroland8697 3 года назад

    Stacked kamyuks do well for the cost

  • @julian16107
    @julian16107 3 года назад

    Nice Video

  • @zoazoa3857
    @zoazoa3857 2 года назад

    Obuch?

  • @keanuvernon6177
    @keanuvernon6177 3 года назад

    konicks confirmed?>?

  • @SeuDigao
    @SeuDigao 3 года назад

    Standard Cobra cars.

  • @martinalejandroarguelloira7627
    @martinalejandroarguelloira7627 3 года назад

    It's better against infantry than Cataphract.... Insane...

  • @tamamonohutke8453
    @tamamonohutke8453 3 года назад

    at least they don't have bloodline

  • @dawneagle
    @dawneagle 3 года назад

    what about COUSTILLIER recharge time?

    • @dawneagle
      @dawneagle 3 года назад

      "It takes 40 seconds for the ability to be recharged for both Elite and non-Elite Coustillier."

  • @arubahachigatsu3022
    @arubahachigatsu3022 3 года назад

    Please add a timestamp

  • @Avinash_Lincoln
    @Avinash_Lincoln 3 года назад +2

    Coustellier: charges and lands 44+11 attack.
    Teutonic Knight: Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda.....

  • @sameedirfan425
    @sameedirfan425 3 года назад

    The charge damage seems to ignore melee armor

    • @iofs3338
      @iofs3338 3 года назад +1

      Nope a teutonic knight got hit by two first hits and lived. If it pierced armor the knight would be dead

    • @sameedirfan425
      @sameedirfan425 3 года назад +1

      @@iofs3338 Spirit of the Law just confirmed this in his latest video.

  • @felipecapusso3263
    @felipecapusso3263 3 года назад +1

    They should decrease the charged attack by at least 40% and increase the standard attack

  • @tunch90
    @tunch90 3 года назад

    As always war elephants dgaf about UU bonuses

  • @dipeshpatel1934
    @dipeshpatel1934 3 года назад +3

    They kill infantry way too fast! These will absolutely wreck meso civs :(

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 3 года назад

      Monk rush is your friend. If they get converted the cous is going eat their own charge and meso civs have the requisite monk techs for it

    • @matthiasvandekerkhove3594
      @matthiasvandekerkhove3594 3 года назад +1

      @@MrAsaqe monks (and their upgrades) cost a ton of gold, and are easily killed by trash units like the hussar...

    • @dipeshpatel1934
      @dipeshpatel1934 3 года назад +2

      @@matthiasvandekerkhove3594 exactly, the meso civs really have no viable way to combat mass cous if they let it get that far; they NEED to the end the game early in order to win because you will not have the pop space to fight mass cous, you’ll need at least 70-100 pikes as Aztecs just to kill 40-50 of them. So you’ll want to end the game with the monk rush if you do it.

  • @srinathvs2647
    @srinathvs2647 3 года назад

    trash units will never be the same again