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Can you check the RSX again with the fixed wings? I tried again a week ago and it seems they might have fixed the issue with the fixed wings not working. Now there’s a noticeable increase in grip with fixed wings installed.
It's probably been mentioned before, but colour coding the classes was a great touch. It flows beautifully from one colour to the next and keeps even the background interesting. Great job once again! Edit for the horrible typo 😅
@@Phulax. For good reason, otherwise people could edit it to say something horrible to pretend like the creator endorses it. Don't fret, maybe the real ❤ was the friends we made along the way…
Outside of racing, notice the Stinger TT and the La Coureuse are both Imani vehicles, only difference is that the La Coureuse is the “fragile agile” that’ll blow up by one explosive or two, whereas the Stinger TT despite it being a dragster, is still an elusive tank on wheels. So, all business (Imani), all pleasure (HSW). It’s crazy to me really. Thanks for the testing Broughy.
Beware for anyone that’s trying to race using the HSW La Coureuse for stunt races due to the car has way too much weight or downforce that in stunt races such as “Stunt - In the City” and “Stunt - Big Drop” it struggles to reach the platform after the jump. For that reason I’d recommend sticking to something like GTO or Stinger TT if you know the race you’re doing has big jumps and ramps, but otherwise then you’ll be safe using La Coureuse (safe example such as “Stunt - H200” and “Stunt - Bridge Too Far”).
it has nothing to do with weight or downforce, neither value are particularly high and neither actually affect the way the car goes through the air. It has 20% increased gravity and I think the way it's set up handling-wise means it doesn't get as much speed from boosts/downhills (don't take this second bit as fact though)
It's a delight to stumble upon random Broughy's video after many many years... And see that he's still gripping about Blistas class placement. Bless you, Adam. XD
I'm sure this is definitely the longest video for this series and probably out much later than originally anticipated but it was definitely worth the wait and I'm glad I can finally see how many sports cars are in the game and what can be useful in races. Again, there are some cool customizations you have on your cars like the purple on the La Coureuse and those offroad tires which look like the modern day Raider tires. Seeing as muscles is the next class (and doesn't have over 100 cars), I hope it won't be as stressful to edit but of course, take your time.
Having taken on a lot video editing myself recently I have a much greater appreciation for this video and it's colossal number of moving parts. good job Brough.
You know Broughy I've been watching your tests from the begining. In the best racers that I know, many have criticized your tests and yet it. But none of them is capable of reproducing with so much methodology your tests which are based on one and the same method is based but they basef their ability to obtain a better time than you on a single lap with a specific vehicle. you say it yourself your method is not perfect but it is the same for each vehicles and it is the best that I know and also the one that I recommend every time I am asked. ... ... So thank you very much Broughy 👍 a big work. Respect 😑
@@novawolf_gamingfrom my point of view, recognizing the quality of the tests here is not a rejection of what is done elsewhere, but I don't know if that's what you meant 🙂. people have to look at different things and form your opinion. Also it is obvious that there are a number of different races and maps and that we cannot apply the results obtained here for everything. moreover each racer having its own driving style and therefore affinities with certain vehicles. despite all these details, I prefer to recommend the Broughy tests as a first step.
@1tyler12 I just mean that some people are not very... detailed in how they test Broughy knows the ins and outs of the game. Most other people either base it on a 1/4 mile dray strip, use Placebo as an excuse, or just stick a speedometer on screen and base it on that (although I guess that's more for PC) Broughy bases it on more detailed testing, that focuses on every tiny detail of the car
@@novawolf_gaming ok I understand better. yes it's true and there are so many different ways to obtain a different speed with the same vehicle that we cannot rely on a single example to deduce a generality (like some people do with a speedometer) Nota bene: sorry for the approximate interpretation I do not master all the subtleties of written and spoken English 😁
It's such a shame the 4-door cars in sports (like the V-STR, Komoda) aren't available in sedans races. Last year a friend & I began using our own 'Sports Sedan' class for race events, consisting of the 4-door cars from the sports class (excluding the Neon, it's rather OP). It has been a lot of fun and very well balanced. Different tracks suit different cars, but none has been excessively dominant. (The largest winning margin came from a track which (most unexpectedly) suited the Raiden particularly well, despite having a long straight and not being particularly twisty. But it is usually a bit off the top of the class for the tracks we race.)
This is hands down the best and most complete race testing video for GTA cars! Absolutely amazing work Brough! Looking forward to the other complete class videos :)
Many thanks for your efforts! The work was worth it and the result is impressive. The new design is also very professional and I really like it! Keep up the good work!
I was waiting for this 🎉 thanks for the effort mate really appreciate these! Saw the OG fastest car video back in the day how the time flys Hope you doing good 👍
I got the Itali GTO from the free casino spin a few years ago and came here to see how good it was. Was genuinely surprised to see it as the best non-HSW sports car.. that's insane
Ever since it came out ive used the La Coureuse almost exclusively. HSW upgrade for amazong top speed, imani tech to prevent griefers, and handles amazing. I beat all the HSW time trails with this thing
Quite shocking to see how the OG & lower tier rally cars have changed in their positions. On one hand I knew the regular Comet has the potential that Broughy didn't originally extract, yet on the contrary I'm not pleased that the Comet Safari & Tropos gained more than the other rally cars.
All the hotring cars are in this video (and very close together as well) so there won’t be a separate video for that. The quickest tuners are in this video too but there will be a separate video containing them all, including those from other classes.
Leave it to Rockstar to make a "high performance" or just generally newer version of a launch car and have it be slower than the original version. I wish the Futo GTX could at least have matched the original for top speed, given its engine power in the game files is massively higher. They did the game thing with the Ruiner ZZ8 and the Dominator GTX.
Hey bit late, I noticed on your website for the sport car category, should I refer to the tier list or should rely on the lap times of these cars. I’m currently making a garage on the top 10 cars for racing in each category. I also noticed that the website for the lap times hasn’t updated unless I missed something
The website will be updated soon (probably tomorrow, it’s always a week after the video). The tiers generally trump the lap times since they take into account top speed outliers too, though most of the time the tiers are in line with the lap times anyway. Take the top cars from this video and you’ll be sorted (though if you’re planning to do organised racing it’s good to have one car from each tier)
@@broughy1322 I have one more question , I am on PC does your tier lists translate over to PC/Old Gen ?? I’m curious because all your testing is done in next generation consoles
@@DiNmiTeso it’s still getting the same lap time with a worse top speed? That’s interesting bc I remember the engine stats on the Gtx were much bigger than the og Futo
@@asideaccount393 I remember he quicky tested it on stream and noticed the GTX's top speed has changed from the last time he tested it, must've been from the time Rockstar kept pissing about with the Tuners
@@asideaccount393 It goes quick with gears, but it's top speed is limited, which means it's just the acceleration that carries it further than usual futo
21:58 Disgrace you can't get some cars any more - especially the #JesterRacecar, which was actually always better for driving/racing than the Elegy, which has quite a lot of oversteer and doesn't jump/fly as well.
I have a question. What's different with track wheels against other, non-offroad type wheels like High-End, or Sports, or Street? I feel like they're a bit slippery than those aforementioned wheel types, but I don't exactly know what it is, is it traction or grip or perhaps they're simply placebo, I don't know. Please do enlightened this confused soul. Thanks.
The HSW stuff just seems unfun. Am on PC, so no worries personally, but if they ever come to us in the future, oh boy they'll be off in every race I partake.
What Suspension are people using on the Itali GTO, i see people use lowest then people use stock, im currently using stock do i change to lowest or keep it stock?
Suggestion I would have shown the position for top speed respective to the rest of the sports class rather than the sports classics for the sterling GT in this video.
Yes, though I would say most cars in any chosen tier would generally stick together whether stock or upgraded. The big outliers are usually the cars with too much or too little engine power, which gets a multiplicative improvement from Engine Tunes (a Pariah gets so much faster as opposed to an Issi Sport).
@@conorjohn490 the stock engine power is not what causes the Pariah to become a monster. The stock Issi Sport isn't even particular far behind it. The thing is that cars get different multipliers for their upgrades, and the Pariah's are ridiculous
Not about to drop half a grand on a console and another 60 on a ten year old game to shave 3 seconds off my lap time... unless of course the next game releases. 😅
It's honestly a bit ridiculous that exactly how fast cars have gotten for top speed in the city with off-road tires for some reason I've been seeing on the top speed challenges the speeds are registering at 300 mph
they changed how the top speed challenge works (either intentionally or unintentionally but I'd go with intentionally). It seems to be showing 2 or 3x the actual speed
Thanks, putting this video took ages, with all the testing, the editing, the data entry for 109 cars and their lap times and top speeds. The scale is staggering.
Almost every car improved, most substantially so (0.7-1s was the norm). That suggests it's more physics updates and changes between when I originally tested and testing now on the new gen versions of the game. Notably cars that like bumps improved more.
@@broughy1322 Sorry, niche reference. When I heard the statement followed by altogether, my first thought was Airplane! “It’s an entirely different kind of flying all together!” “It’s an entirely different kind of flying.”
Does the Imani tech and armor plating make the stinger tt go slower? Me and a friend did the rescue ulp mission and he had the convertible vegiro zx hsw and I had the tt. He got there before I did.
+ apart from what broughy said, HSW tends to be a bit inconsistent inside missions, or when u deliver cargo with one. seems to be quite random at times
The problem is Forza's tiers use automatically calculated performance and I doubt Rockstar would be willing to put the time in to implement such a system. If they were to do pace-based classes they'd go for a manual tier rating system like NFS Carbon or Undercover and they'd probably make as much sense and be as well-balanced as the tiers in those games
Would need a lobby full of people with HSW La Coureuse, since iirc car-swapping with HSW is still broken and I'm not sure if you can force HSW La Coureuses in the job creator :/
It can do some funky things with shunting to take tight corners quickly without having to slow down as much. Very corner and track dependent and you obviously lose the top speed from the nitrous. Considering you can fly with the shunt boost and the arena cars aren't raceable anyway, I decided to discount it from the testing.
So, this list isn't completely compatible with Xbox One and PS4 version of the game right? Lap times have improved for almost all the cars on current gen but not evenly across the board?
The lap time improvements aren't to do with the testing being done on the Gen9 version, moreso just general better driving and subtle physics changes across all versions with updates
@@Johnny362000 Yeah no it doesn’t have anything to do with Gen9 but it does have something to do with the next gen version of the game right? It runs on 60 fps now and they’ve fixed the whole framerate thing making cars faster.
@@evinco6954 Gen9 _is_ next-gen (more "current gen" at this point). The PS5/Xbox Series version is referred to internally as Gen9. The fact that they fixed the framerate thing is exactly why the fact it's on Gen 9 isn't important. The Gen9 version whether it's at 30 or 60 behaves like the Gen8/PC version at 30. Sure, the Gen8 consoles don't always _reach_ 30 (especially basic 2013 Xbox Ones, they struggle for 20) but the differences at that level are basically negligible
@@Johnny362000 Interesting🤔 You’re saying I could take a D10 on old gen and get the exact same lap time and top speed as on current gen even with the framerate difference? Btw I understood what you meant by Gen9 in the first comment😅
@@evinco6954 yes. Assuming you were as skilled a driver as Brough you could replicate his laps, or at least get within a few tenths, and for top speed you don't even need his skill
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Can you check the RSX again with the fixed wings? I tried again a week ago and it seems they might have fixed the issue with the fixed wings not working. Now there’s a noticeable increase in grip with fixed wings installed.
Finally we see comet retro testing! Great job for doing all this, over 30 minutes for 1 class is crazy
It was actually the last car I tested, just to play into the meme :D
You? I thought Dinmite does the testing and editing for you!?
@@ph1lh0ffBroughy spreading misinformation confirmed ☑️
Great work Dinmite. This must have taken so much and effort.
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Blista Compact manages to move itself in to the Super cars class at the end of the video 😶
Damn it 😅
@@broughy1322 I'm sorry you had to find out this way. Just wait for it to be added to Benny's and Rockstar will probably move it there themselves.
The blista is going places.
It's probably been mentioned before, but colour coding the classes was a great touch. It flows beautifully from one colour to the next and keeps even the background interesting. Great job once again!
Edit for the horrible typo 😅
Oh no editing removes the heart
@@Phulax. For good reason, otherwise people could edit it to say something horrible to pretend like the creator endorses it.
Don't fret, maybe the real ❤ was the friends we made along the way…
Outside of racing, notice the Stinger TT and the La Coureuse are both Imani vehicles, only difference is that the La Coureuse is the “fragile agile” that’ll blow up by one explosive or two, whereas the Stinger TT despite it being a dragster, is still an elusive tank on wheels. So, all business (Imani), all pleasure (HSW). It’s crazy to me really. Thanks for the testing Broughy.
can we all appreciate how much time and effort he puts to test all the vehicles
Imagine people saying that to those who test cars overall performance at the airport to pay their bills💀💀
Beware for anyone that’s trying to race using the HSW La Coureuse for stunt races due to the car has way too much weight or downforce that in stunt races such as “Stunt - In the City” and “Stunt - Big Drop” it struggles to reach the platform after the jump. For that reason I’d recommend sticking to something like GTO or Stinger TT if you know the race you’re doing has big jumps and ramps, but otherwise then you’ll be safe using La Coureuse (safe example such as “Stunt - H200” and “Stunt - Bridge Too Far”).
you can just about do it on big drop if you hit the last boost from the side as late as possible and point the front down
Or flip
Tell me about it. Found out that hard way... .. . 🫤
it has nothing to do with weight or downforce, neither value are particularly high and neither actually affect the way the car goes through the air. It has 20% increased gravity and I think the way it's set up handling-wise means it doesn't get as much speed from boosts/downhills (don't take this second bit as fact though)
@@Johnny362000 its actually super fast downhill
Did someone say free Pizza?
I did
Lol
Still waiting for my pepperoni! Hope Adam keeps his promise...
No! Of course not! 😂
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO EAT THIS PIZZA WITHOUT MY DRINK!?!?!?!?
only a couple mins in and the editing is fantastic, new format looking great
Thank you! :)
It's a delight to stumble upon random Broughy's video after many many years... And see that he's still gripping about Blistas class placement. Bless you, Adam. XD
I'm sure this is definitely the longest video for this series and probably out much later than originally anticipated but it was definitely worth the wait and I'm glad I can finally see how many sports cars are in the game and what can be useful in races. Again, there are some cool customizations you have on your cars like the purple on the La Coureuse and those offroad tires which look like the modern day Raider tires. Seeing as muscles is the next class (and doesn't have over 100 cars), I hope it won't be as stressful to edit but of course, take your time.
no way he finally tested the comet retro :ooo
Having taken on a lot video editing myself recently I have a much greater appreciation for this video and it's colossal number of moving parts. good job Brough.
Must have taken ages
You know Broughy I've been watching your tests from the begining. In the best racers that I know, many have criticized your tests and yet it. But none of them is capable of reproducing with so much methodology your tests which are based on one and the same method is based but they basef their ability to obtain a better time than you on a single lap with a specific vehicle. you say it yourself your method is not perfect but it is the same for each vehicles and it is the best that I know and also the one that I recommend every time I am asked.
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... So thank you very much Broughy 👍 a big work. Respect 😑
Many of us in the Racing Community go purely on Broughy and reject anything else because Broughy's testing is so thorough
@@novawolf_gamingfrom my point of view, recognizing the quality of the tests here is not a rejection of what is done elsewhere, but I don't know if that's what you meant 🙂.
people have to look at different things and form your opinion.
Also it is obvious that there are a number of different races and maps and that we cannot apply the results obtained here for everything.
moreover each racer having its own driving style and therefore affinities with certain vehicles.
despite all these details, I prefer to recommend the Broughy tests as a first step.
@1tyler12 I just mean that some people are not very... detailed in how they test
Broughy knows the ins and outs of the game. Most other people either base it on a 1/4 mile dray strip, use Placebo as an excuse, or just stick a speedometer on screen and base it on that (although I guess that's more for PC)
Broughy bases it on more detailed testing, that focuses on every tiny detail of the car
@@novawolf_gaming ok I understand better.
yes it's true and there are so many different ways to obtain a different speed with the same vehicle that we cannot rely on a single example to deduce a generality (like some people do with a speedometer)
Nota bene: sorry for the approximate interpretation I do not master all the subtleties of written and spoken English 😁
@@1tyler12 No, I'm just shit at explaning 😂
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LAP TIME/TOP SPEED
NR (Non Raceable)
1st🥇(Gold) / 2nd🥈(Silver) : Enus Paragon R (armored) (1:01.426 / 122.5 mph)
2nd🥈(Silver) / 1st🥇(Gold) : Annis ZR380 (1:02.112 / 142 mph)
3rd🥉(Bronze) : Dinka Veto Modern (1:11.204 / 83.5 mph)
4th : Dinka Veto Classic (1:14.925 / 79 mph)
Tier S
1st🥇(Or) /4th : Penaud La Coureuse (HSW) (0:56.139 / 142.5 mph)
Tier A
2nd🥈(Silver) /1st🥇(Gold) : Grotti Itali GTO Stinger TT (HSW) (0:59.292 / 168.5 mph)
3rd🥉(Bronze) /11th : Grotti Itali GTO (0:59.359 / 128 mph)
4th/2nd🥈(Silver) : Karin S95 (HSW) (0:59.559 / 156.5 mph)
Tier B
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2nd🥈(Silver) /1st🥇(Gold) : Benefactor Stirling GT (HSW) (1:00.627 / 156.25 mph)
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5th/5th : Ocelot Pariah (1:00.644 / 136 mph)
6th/3rd🥉(Bronze) : Bravado Banshee (HSW) (1:00.677 / 152.75 mph)
7th/82nd : Penaud La Coureuse (1:00.811 / 114.5 mph)
8th/6th : Grotti Itali RSX (1:00.844 / 134.5 mph)
Tier C
9th/19th : Vysser Neo (1:00.977 / 125.25 mph)
10th/98th : Överflöd Imorgon (1:01.060 / 106.75 mph)
11th/26th : Enus Paragon R (1:01.361 / 123 mph)
12th/21st : Ocelot Jugular (1:01.371 / 125 mph)
13st/33rd : Pfister Comet SR (1:01.778 / 122 mph)
14th/8th : Lampadati Corsita (1:01.812 / 131.25 mph)
15th/92nd : Weeny Issi sport (1:01.961 / 112.5 mph)
Tier D
16th/68th : Karin Sultan classic (1:02.145 / 117 mph)
17th/60th : Annis Elegy RH8 (1:02.279 / 118.75 mph)
18th/46th : Dinka Jester (racecar) (1:02.396 / 120.25 mph)
19th/12th : Obey 10F widebody (1:02.546 / 128 mph)
22nd/7th : Grotti Itali GTO Stinger TT (1:02.829 / 132 mph)
Tier E
20th/65th : Karin Sultan RS classic (1:02.762 / 117.5 mph)
21st/79th : Emperor Vectre (1:02.762 / 116 mph)
23rd/47th : Benefactor Feltzer (1:02.913 / 120.25 mph)
24th/39th : Karin Calico GTF (1:02.963 / 121 mph)
25th/53rd : Dinka Jester (1:02.980 / 119.5 mph)
26th/34th : Pfister Growler (1:02.996 / 122 mph)
27th/37th : Obey 9F Cabrio (1:03.002 / 121.25 mph)
28th/38th : Obey 9F (1:03.056 / 121.25 mph
29th/64th : Obey 8F Drafter (1:03.096 / 117.75 mph)
30th/14th : Obey 10F (1:03.180 / 126 mph)
31st/84th : Pfister Neon (1:03.196 / 114 mph)
32nd/78th : Annis Elegy retro custom (1:03.212 / 115.5 mph)
33rd/27th : Dewbauchee Massacro (racecar) (1:03.213 / 122.75 mph)
34th/28th : Dewbauchee Massacro (1:03.364 / 122.75 mph)
35th/18th : Benefactor Schlagen GT (1:03.462 / 125.5 mph)
37th/9th : Invetero Coquette D10 (1:03.797 / 130.5 mph)
Tier F
36th/86th : Coil Raiden (1:03.697 / 113.25 mph)
38th/88th : Maibatsu Penumbra FF (1:03.798 / 113 mph)
39th/51st : Pfister Comet (1:03.846 / 119.75 mph)
40th/48th : Annis 300R (1:03.847 / 120 mph)
41st/23rd : Dewbauchee Seven-70 (1:03.881 / 124 mph)
42nd/15th : Dinka Jester RR (1:04.031 / 126 mph)
43rd/58th : Grotti Bestia GTS (1:04.035 / 119 mph)
44th/66th : Annis Euros (1:04.040 / 117.25 mph)
45th/40th : Dewbauchee Specter custom (1:04.047 / 121 mph)
46th/41st : Dewbauchee Specter (1:04.082 / 121 mph)
47th/77th : Vapid Flash GT (1:04.097 / 116 mph)
48th/20th : Albany V-STR (1:04.114 / 125.25 mph)
49th/71st : Übermacht Revolter (1:04.115 / 116.75 mph)
50th/25th : Lampadati Komoda (1:04.165 / 123.5 mph)
52nd/13th : Übermacht Sentinel widebody (1:04.248 / 127.25 mph)
53rd/10th : Pfister Comet S2 Cabrio (1:04.298 / 129.25 mph)
Tier G
51st/85th : Übermacht Cypher (1:04.231 / 113.5 mph)
54th/42nd : Benefactor Surano (1:04.380 / 121 mph)
55th/94th : Obey Omnis e-GT (1:04.431 / 111.5 mph)
56th/24th : Benefactor SM722 (1:04.481 / 123.75 mph)
57th/32nd : Bravado Verlierer (1:04.582 / 122.25 mph)
58th/16th : Benefactor Schafter V12 (1:04.598 / 126 mph)
59th/35th : Comet retro custom (1:04.615 / 121.5 mph)
60th/29th : Pfister Comet S2 (1:04.715 / 122.5 mph)
61st/67th : Übermacht Sentinel classic (1:04.732 / 117.25 mph)
Tier H
62nd/54th : Ocelot Locust (1:04.981 / 119.5 mph)
63rd/74th : Karin Sultan (1:04.982 / 116.25 mph)
64th/61st : Bravado Banshee (1:05.131 / 118.5 mph)
65th/75th : Karin S95 (1:05.265 / 116.25 mph)
66th/49th : Grotti Carbonizzare (1:05.282 / 120 mph)
67th/62nd : Albany Alpha (1:05.315 / 118.5 mph)
68th/50th : Invetero Coquette (1:05.416 / 120 mph)
Tier I
69th/79th : Annis Remus (1:05.699 / 115.5 mph)
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8th/22nd : Benefactor Stirling GT (1:05.715 / 113 mph)
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70th/52nd : Dinka Jester classic (1:05.749 / 119.75 mph)
71st/55th : Lampadati Tropos rallye (1:05.766 / 119.5 mph)
72nd/57th : Dinka RT3000 (1:06.033 / 119.25 mph)
73rd/36th : Ocelot Lynx (1:06.082 / 121.5 mph)
74th/30th : Toundra Panthere (1:06.133 / 122.5 mph)
75th/59th : Pfister Comet safari (1:06.149 / 119 mph)
Tier J
76th/89th : Karin Kuruma (1:06.150 / 113 mph)
77th/22nd : Bravado Hotring Hellfire (1:06.266 / 124.25 mph)
78th/31st : Declasse Hotring Sabre (1:06.300 / 122.5 mph)
79th/87th : Obey Omnis (1:06.399 / 113.25 mph)
80th/83rd : Vapid GB200 (1:06.443 / 114.25 mph)
81st/17th : Karin Hotring Everon (1:06.487 / 125.75 mph)
82nd/80th : Bravado Buffalo 🐃 Sprunk (1:06.800 / 115 mph)
83rd/72nd : Annis ZR380 (1:06.967 / 116.75 mph)
Tier K
84th/81st : Declasse Drift Tampa (1:07.467 / 114.75 mph)
85th/44th : Dewbauchee Rapid GT Cabrio (1:07.468 / 120.5 mph)
86th/45th : Dewbauchee Rapid GT (1:07.465 / 120.5 mph)
87th/90th : Bravado Buffalo 🐃 S (1:07.601 / 113 mph)
88th/103rd : Hijak Khamelion (1:07.668 / 102 mph)
89th/96th : Karin Kuruma (armored) (1:07.701 / 109.75 mph)
90th/43rd : Lampadati Furore GT (1:07.735 / 120.75 mph)
91th/73rd : Hijak Ruston (1:07.784 / 116.5 mph)
92nd/69th : Schyster Fusillade (1:07.902 / 117 mph)
93rd/91st : Bravado Buffalo 🐃 (1:08.135 / 112.75 mph)
Tier L
94e/63e : Dinka Sugoi (1:08.786 / 118 mph)
95e/97e : Benefactor Schafter LWB (1:08.869 / 109.25 mph)
Tier M
96th/93rd : Karin Futo GTX (1:10.020 / 112.5 mph)
97th/70th : Benefactor Schwartzer (1:10.671 / 117 mph)
Tier N
98th/100th : BF Raptor (1:11.271 / 103.75 mph)
99th/56th : Karin Futo (1:11.322 / 119.5 mph)
100th/99th : Maibatsu Penumbra (1:11.823 / 105.25 mph)
101st/95th : Benefactor Streiter (1:11.872 / 110.5 mph)
Tier O
102nd/101st : Dinka Blista compact (1:14.208 / 103.75 mph)
103rd/102nd : Dinka Blista Go Go Monkey (1:14.217 / 103.75 mph)
Great video as always dinmite, it's crazy how you do all that work on your own!
It was very challenging!
It's such a shame the 4-door cars in sports (like the V-STR, Komoda) aren't available in sedans races. Last year a friend & I began using our own 'Sports Sedan' class for race events, consisting of the 4-door cars from the sports class (excluding the Neon, it's rather OP). It has been a lot of fun and very well balanced. Different tracks suit different cars, but none has been excessively dominant. (The largest winning margin came from a track which (most unexpectedly) suited the Raiden particularly well, despite having a long straight and not being particularly twisty. But it is usually a bit off the top of the class for the tracks we race.)
This is hands down the best and most complete race testing video for GTA cars! Absolutely amazing work Brough! Looking forward to the other complete class videos :)
Many thanks for your efforts! The work was worth it and the result is impressive.
The new design is also very professional and I really like it!
Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much!
Just a short note, at 30:13 you said the blista compact was supers. That would be quite comical if it was 😅
Imagine if the blista compact 1st in supers class
A year in the making? That is a colossal effort.
Thanks Broughy
Thank you Broughy for making the thumbnail for this video. And thank you Dinmite for the testing, editing and commenting.
Thank you it took a while
This was the best testing video I've ever seen, and you deserve all the credit you have gotten.
Ngl, i haven't played gta since mid 2022, but Broughy's vids keep me interested. Keep it up Brough! Love ya
Thank you, Broughy, for all your hard work in putting these master lists together!!
thank you for putting so much effort to test these vehicles
Wow, huge video, insane effort you're putting into this!
I appreciate you're work and methodical approach. Nice !
Wow, massive thanks for these vids. Amazing xxx
Wow, what a video.
Happy birthday!
I was waiting for this 🎉 thanks for the effort mate really appreciate these! Saw the OG fastest car video back in the day how the time flys Hope you doing good 👍
great video as always! your dedication to entertaining and informing the gta community is unmatched!
I got the Itali GTO from the free casino spin a few years ago and came here to see how good it was. Was genuinely surprised to see it as the best non-HSW sports car.. that's insane
Congrats on a job exceptionally well done, sir
Appreciate the work you put in this one
Amazing work as always
Thanks so much for the kind support!
Ever since it came out ive used the La Coureuse almost exclusively. HSW upgrade for amazong top speed, imani tech to prevent griefers, and handles amazing. I beat all the HSW time trails with this thing
Thanks for all the insane amount of work, this helps so much!
Thanks so much for the support!
great job man!
Quite shocking to see how the OG & lower tier rally cars have changed in their positions. On one hand I knew the regular Comet has the potential that Broughy didn't originally extract, yet on the contrary I'm not pleased that the Comet Safari & Tropos gained more than the other rally cars.
Thank you for all your effort.
I wanna see a Blista Compact vs HSW La Coureuse car v car race now😉
Happy Birthday Broughy
Huge W Broughy! Damn autocorrect
Thank you Broughy
Broughy is a living legend
why has the Comet dropped almost 2 seconds regarding to gta cars info?
Nice job Broughy!
gtacars have old testing data, that will get updated next week
@@DiNmiTe thanks!
When R* introduced HSW , I was jelous , but now I'm thankful it isn't on PC
Broughy has saved me millions
Happy to know I’ve helped!
could you add a sort by option on your website that would sort cars based on their handling using what's explained at 24:05 ?
Thank you
Thank you.
Broughy, where is the pizza good sir? 😢
Honestly, i used to dislike the GTO and how dominant it was. Now it feels like a heroic last bastion of the pre-hsw era.
27:47 “grip monster”
10:13 Carbonizzare is not number one? It has the best stats 😊
You're joking right?
You're joking and I hate you
@@anrw886 😁
For a Test Ride videos, I like to see Tuner vehicles and Hotring vehicles Test videos to see which one is better for those Races. 🚘🏁
All the hotring cars are in this video (and very close together as well) so there won’t be a separate video for that. The quickest tuners are in this video too but there will be a separate video containing them all, including those from other classes.
I'm surprised the Tropos is faster than the Comet Safari.
Have u done a video for rally racing?
Leave it to Rockstar to make a "high performance" or just generally newer version of a launch car and have it be slower than the original version. I wish the Futo GTX could at least have matched the original for top speed, given its engine power in the game files is massively higher. They did the game thing with the Ruiner ZZ8 and the Dominator GTX.
love you
Hey bit late, I noticed on your website for the sport car category, should I refer to the tier list or should rely on the lap times of these cars. I’m currently making a garage on the top 10 cars for racing in each category. I also noticed that the website for the lap times hasn’t updated unless I missed something
The website will be updated soon (probably tomorrow, it’s always a week after the video). The tiers generally trump the lap times since they take into account top speed outliers too, though most of the time the tiers are in line with the lap times anyway. Take the top cars from this video and you’ll be sorted (though if you’re planning to do organised racing it’s good to have one car from each tier)
@@broughy1322 oh ok thank you for the clarification and the advice. Great video btw 😊😊👍👍
@@broughy1322 I have one more question , I am on PC does your tier lists translate over to PC/Old Gen ?? I’m curious because all your testing is done in next generation consoles
@@amei_G80_BmwM3 yes, just ignore HSW cars and the tiers are still accurate
@@DiNmiTe oh ok just making sure
Will you cover drag races and best cars for them?
What's the point? There's your video: ruclips.net/video/e1mfWcRk8ic/видео.html
@broughy1322 Didn’t the Futo GTX have a top speed of 119.75 mph from your tuners testing video? Also referenced it with the GTA cars site
This is the updated top speed
@@DiNmiTeso it’s still getting the same lap time with a worse top speed? That’s interesting bc I remember the engine stats on the Gtx were much bigger than the og Futo
I noticed my Veto Classic is also suddenly slower than the Modern for top speed. Now my go-kart is useless… HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?
@@asideaccount393 I remember he quicky tested it on stream and noticed the GTX's top speed has changed from the last time he tested it, must've been from the time Rockstar kept pissing about with the Tuners
@@asideaccount393 It goes quick with gears, but it's top speed is limited, which means it's just the acceleration that carries it further than usual futo
Waiting for the 2024 Supers tier list :)
you mean a video he already did a month ago? ruclips.net/video/2Ra9zgSZpoU/видео.htmlsi=yqNOFm8SCBKvIQyD
21:58 Disgrace you can't get some cars any more - especially the #JesterRacecar, which was actually always better for driving/racing than the Elegy, which has quite a lot of oversteer and doesn't jump/fly as well.
Waiting for the free pizza 🍕
So many dynamics😄
Testiiiing😱
I have a question. What's different with track wheels against other, non-offroad type wheels like High-End, or Sports, or Street? I feel like they're a bit slippery than those aforementioned wheel types, but I don't exactly know what it is, is it traction or grip or perhaps they're simply placebo, I don't know. Please do enlightened this confused soul. Thanks.
The HSW stuff just seems unfun. Am on PC, so no worries personally, but if they ever come to us in the future, oh boy they'll be off in every race I partake.
What Suspension are people using on the Itali GTO, i see people use lowest then people use stock, im currently using stock do i change to lowest or keep it stock?
Suggestion I would have shown the position for top speed respective to the rest of the sports class rather than the sports classics for the sterling GT in this video.
Would be cool if rock* releases an hsw pariah.
Is there a big difference in ranking between upgraded and vanilla cars?
for the most part no, there are some cars that gain more from performance upgrades than others, i.e. the Pariah
Yes, though I would say most cars in any chosen tier would generally stick together whether stock or upgraded.
The big outliers are usually the cars with too much or too little engine power, which gets a multiplicative improvement from Engine Tunes (a Pariah gets so much faster as opposed to an Issi Sport).
@@conorjohn490 the stock engine power is not what causes the Pariah to become a monster. The stock Issi Sport isn't even particular far behind it. The thing is that cars get different multipliers for their upgrades, and the Pariah's are ridiculous
error at 30:24 with the blista compact labeled as "102nd in Supers" instead of "Sports"
Not about to drop half a grand on a console and another 60 on a ten year old game to shave 3 seconds off my lap time... unless of course the next game releases. 😅
It's honestly a bit ridiculous that exactly how fast cars have gotten for top speed in the city with off-road tires for some reason I've been seeing on the top speed challenges the speeds are registering at 300 mph
they changed how the top speed challenge works (either intentionally or unintentionally but I'd go with intentionally). It seems to be showing 2 or 3x the actual speed
Good job dinmite
Thanks, putting this video took ages, with all the testing, the editing, the data entry for 109 cars and their lap times and top speeds. The scale is staggering.
I am so done.
@@DiNmiTethanke for your effort dinmite
How did you manage to improve the Comet's laptime by around 1.4 seconds? And the 9F's by a full second? The Jester Racecar was also insane.
Almost every car improved, most substantially so (0.7-1s was the norm). That suggests it's more physics updates and changes between when I originally tested and testing now on the new gen versions of the game. Notably cars that like bumps improved more.
@@broughy1322 The poor Surano and Schlagen GT got shafted in this one.
14:10
“All very close in terms of lap time.”
What are you pointing out here? Something wrong?
@@broughy1322 Sorry, niche reference. When I heard the statement followed by altogether, my first thought was Airplane! “It’s an entirely different kind of flying all together!” “It’s an entirely different kind of flying.”
Haha fair enough. All went way over my head 😅
Does the Imani tech and armor plating make the stinger tt go slower? Me and a friend did the rescue ulp mission and he had the convertible vegiro zx hsw and I had the tt. He got there before I did.
No it doesn't. Make sure you've got all upgrades applied (including the extra HSW levels of turbo, engine, etc)
+ apart from what broughy said, HSW tends to be a bit inconsistent inside missions, or when u deliver cargo with one. seems to be quite random at times
does the type of tire like the class affect the speed of the cars? if so what would be the best class of tire?
No. More info here: ruclips.net/video/5I-vYo1GUpc/видео.html
Would it be best for R* to do away with vehicle classes in GTA 6 and adopt vehicle tiers from the Forza series?
The problem is Forza's tiers use automatically calculated performance and I doubt Rockstar would be willing to put the time in to implement such a system. If they were to do pace-based classes they'd go for a manual tier rating system like NFS Carbon or Undercover and they'd probably make as much sense and be as well-balanced as the tiers in those games
What's next? Classics? Muscles? Sedans?
Muscles is the next class
When will your website be updated with the new stats?
Always 1 week after each video
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So when is the hsw L. Coureuse gfred coming?
Would need a lobby full of people with HSW La Coureuse, since iirc car-swapping with HSW is still broken and I'm not sure if you can force HSW La Coureuses in the job creator :/
Hey Beoughy, i play on pc, what is the fastest car without HSW upgrade?
he literally said in the video
@@DiNmiTe seems I didn't catch it, are you able to send the timestamp?
@@SkitziXd Tier A
What's up with the shunt boost on the Zr380?
It can do some funky things with shunting to take tight corners quickly without having to slow down as much. Very corner and track dependent and you obviously lose the top speed from the nitrous. Considering you can fly with the shunt boost and the arena cars aren't raceable anyway, I decided to discount it from the testing.
Some guy got a 56.4 with shunt boosting Zr380 on this track. But he only got 1 clean lap out of 100
So, this list isn't completely compatible with Xbox One and PS4 version of the game right? Lap times have improved for almost all the cars on current gen but not evenly across the board?
The lap time improvements aren't to do with the testing being done on the Gen9 version, moreso just general better driving and subtle physics changes across all versions with updates
@@Johnny362000 Yeah no it doesn’t have anything to do with Gen9 but it does have something to do with the next gen version of the game right? It runs on 60 fps now and they’ve fixed the whole framerate thing making cars faster.
@@evinco6954 Gen9 _is_ next-gen (more "current gen" at this point). The PS5/Xbox Series version is referred to internally as Gen9.
The fact that they fixed the framerate thing is exactly why the fact it's on Gen 9 isn't important. The Gen9 version whether it's at 30 or 60 behaves like the Gen8/PC version at 30. Sure, the Gen8 consoles don't always _reach_ 30 (especially basic 2013 Xbox Ones, they struggle for 20) but the differences at that level are basically negligible
@@Johnny362000 Interesting🤔 You’re saying I could take a D10 on old gen and get the exact same lap time and top speed as on current gen even with the framerate difference? Btw I understood what you meant by Gen9 in the first comment😅
@@evinco6954 yes. Assuming you were as skilled a driver as Brough you could replicate his laps, or at least get within a few tenths, and for top speed you don't even need his skill
So is the HSW Stirling GT usable in sports and sports classics?
this comment can't be real oml
Yes...
@@_m.a.y.o_ I just never realised there were cars that were race-able in two different classes. No need to give me a hard time for it.
@@_m.a.y.o_ It was also 4am for me when I asked the question...
Pepperoni please
Does anyone know if off-road tires are still the best ones?
for older cars that have TCC yes, for newer cars it does not matter, otherwise its preference
Pariah is the best!
Why do you use the Cosmo wheels on a lot of the cars?
question is answered here: ruclips.net/video/bXRbl4gVnuw/видео.htmlsi=GPcTSOmfa-mRVFHO&t=473
@@DiNmiTe You can’t just tell me bruh?
Cool
what does HSW stand for?
ruclips.net/video/bXRbl4gVnuw/видео.html
Did R* change the Stinger’s “delayed” stearing? It doesn’t feel as noticeable