STILL WORTH IT? - VRS Direct Force Pro DD Sim Racing Wheel Base Review
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- It's been 2 years now since we originally reviewed the VRS Direct Force Pro Sim Racing Wheelbase. While at the time it left us overall impressed, especially for the price, there were some things we felt needed improvement.
In the time since the Direct Drive Sim Racing Wheelbase market has also evolved considerably, so today we're revisiting to see how the product has evolved since our original review, and if it's something we would recommend in 2023.
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Hey, Will & Tom! I was one of the people who bought a VRS base after your initial review about 2 years ago and I couldn't have been happier. It was better than I expected (which was alot) and the constant updates by VRS to the software has only solidified that it was the right decision. I just wanted to say thanks for making the content and to keep it up!
Hi where I can find the software ?
I'll find the link. I'm pretty sure it's on the vrs website though
Im looking to purchase my first de, what do you think between a simucube 2 sport and a vrs ?
@@Nels_On i need to know too
I have had the VRS DFP for a year and I could't be happier. It is just strong and smooth and you don't have to worry too much about setting it up. It works great straight out of the box!! I use it combined with the simracing coach QR, a simracingbay competition v2 rim and a Innato GT30 panel. Very good experience!!!!
Thanks for the great review Will. I’ve had my VRS DD Pro for 2 years now and absolutely love it. Now it’s even better 😊
This review video sent me down the rabbit hole (again) for which DD wheel to buy (as my first). Thank you. I was looking at the Simagic Alpha and then the Moza R12, but I don't want to upgrade again if I can help it, and this appears to be worth saving a little longer to purchase. Also, product support and community are very important to me. Your reviews are the gold standard that I come back to for final decisions. Thanks again for your massive contribution to the sim racing community. FWIW, I stumbled across your Miata headlamp (front end) rewiring video the other day too, working on my NB1 wiring :-D Who knew.
I've had my VRS DD for about a year now. The thing has been awesome & so is the support. As this video shows they just keep making it better. I upgraded from a Thrustmaster TS-XW so I picked up several of the Sim Racing Coach adapters to convert all the wheels I had. Works flawlessly & saved me a ton of money. The wheels have held up fine. No issues at all. VRS is the best bang for the buck out there IMHO.
VRS user here - i really love my wheelbase 👌
I am so satisfied with my VRS DD PRO
In My opinion with Most Top End DD Bases. The Software is the Differentiating item between Companies
These Electric Motors are so Powerful and Detailed.
The Software and Continued Development can have the biggest Difference
Will, you are a legend. I got this base three days ago. Perfect timing :)
This " Post Mortem" series is great. It is after all 2023. Every sim racing product is as good as it's software. And it changes, evolves. Sometimes dramatically. I look forward for another one guys 🙂👌
Will it was nice to see someone touch on the VRS wheel again as, the software has change since I bought it 1.5 years ago. There are very few videos explaining the adjustments and effects of the new software. Thanks so much! Keep you the good work!!
best VRS direct drive wheel and pedals in business
I've had the VRS DFP since shortly after your initial video and have been very happy with the build quality and the FFB. My only criticism had been that the software updates were hidden on a page that had no link to it. I see VRS have rectified the issue by redoing their website. I had great customer service from them through email too. Thanks for explaining and sharing your settings, Will! They are way better than mine! 😋
Great review/revisit Will. I’ve just bought the VRS wheel base and pedals, and I love them both.
I’m about to pull that combo trigger. What wheel are you using? Any advice for a future vrs owner?
Thanks for the video and for sharing your setup, i'm going to give it a try in ACC. Keep the good work, your channel is amazing
great video - thanks for the tip ... filter setting changed my life. wheel base is smooth as silk. way more confident this week at VIR .... Thanks
I just got mine about 2 months ago. LOVING it. It’s dead smooth, quiet and runs at room temp. Great fidelity even when running a 350mm wheel (yeah it’s too big, my mistake)
Glad to see you revisit this Will. I have their pedals (which are great) and was looking to get this. Your mate GM was telling me to get the Simucube over it - which is way more expensive in our part of the world, as you know.
Great idea to revist these products . Since alot has changed since original reviews.
Love the video, showing all your VRS setting in detail.I only wish you would show the corresponding ingame ffb setting that you combine with it.
0:01 into the video and I can say that it is 100% worth the money in 2023. Ive had one for years and never once had anything other than amazing performance and detail. If there ever comes a time that it does break I will gladly go out and buy another with a smile on my face before even looking at new options.
Are you using similar settings as Will? I am still searching for the ideal settings after firmware updates and am still running with default everything.
I sold dd1 and bought vrs, in fanatec I was constantly changing something in the settings, but there was still something wrong. Vrs without any changes in the settings immediately felt natural in Iracing and Richard burns rally. In Acc fanatec was better but I did not play with the settings in vrs. The only minus vrs is that in some titles such as rfactor2 you have to change the ini file. But it's worth it. Great review!
wonderful review as always
I moved from my trusted Thrustmaster TS-PC wheelbase and T-LCM pedals to the VRS DFP wheelbase and Asetek Invicta pedals and it's been a night and day difference in quality, control, detail and immersion. I used Thrustmaster and Logitech for over a decade. When the opportunity to upgrade came it was well worth the investment. Make sure to have a solid aluminum profile rig to support all your high end gear or else you will loose a lot to dampening due to flex. Thank you @boostedmedia for this video! Love from Canada
In the last 6 months I’ve gone from the g29 to a t300 to a Simagic Mini to the VRS base. I thought it was just going to be another stepping stone for me and that I’d be wanting more and end up with the Simucube Pro 2. I can genuinely say I have no desire for the Simucube and this has ticked all the boxes that was lacking in the previous wheels. It is powerful, detailed and smooth. I was actually surprised with just how smooth. I’ll be happy with this for a long time.
How is simagic mini v t300 & vrs?
@@bmmarshall79 it’s a reasonable step up in power, but not as much as I thought it would be and I still wanted more. I thought it would be enough for me, but I upgraded to the VRS in 3-4 weeks.
you a donkey my man... 5k on servo's in six months + shipping then just going top of the line.... you doing the same thing with pedals till you get those 2.5k sim cube pedals each to
@@GlizzysGoblins you are the donkey who can’t do maths and who makes assumptions. Not sure where you are, but here in Aus those 4 wheels do not come close to 5k (even at full price). The g29 and t300 I bought second hand and sold them for the same price. I got the Simagic on a Black Friday deal and sold that for the same price. It was the process I had to go through to figure out what I wanted from sim racing.
@@rover13743,9Nm to 10Nm+ isn't a big step? This makes no sense what so ever.
My VRS Direct Force Pro will be delivered Monday! Upgrading from the Clubsport V 2.5...looking forward to experiencing the difference. Your channel is my new go to. Thanks!
Hello, how do you feel with the upgrade ? How better is the improve for the Csw 2.5 ?
How is it going?
I've always thought this would be a good idea for a video. The software revisions were great for this wheelbase.
Great update Will. Thanks! I got this base last year after giving up waiting for the elusive QR2. It’s fantastic. So powerful. So smooth. And rock solid with Xero play QR. I messed up though, and did not use the static force reduction filter and I also played much much longer hours because it was so fun! But the overuse strain caused some soft tissue damage to the wrist from ramping up the FFB without building up the muscle strength first. So be careful, take it easy and ramp up the strength/duration slowly. This is not a toy.
What wheel did you go for with this base?
@@MrJaffa78 I primarily race the Lotus 49, so I kept my simple old 270mm Fanatec round wheel for immersion. The Torque was pretty high on it though (effectively about 26Nm compared to a 350mm wheel). So I went to the other extreme and ordered a more ergonomic MOMO Montecarlo and Turn R305 in order to avoid future injury. If I’d had them to begin with, I’d be in much better shape I’m sure.
Great idea to revisit these products. The fanatec video was great last week. I do find I base purchase decisions based on these videos and when the original video wasn’t 100% positive it very easy to rule it out.
I agree with you, however I fear that the only reason a lot of simfluencers are doing "is it worth it in 2023" content is that there's absolutely nothing else to do. Since the ADAC sim expo there's been nothing happening in the sim racing area.
Dont. Never trust RUclips reviews. I don't want to point out who and how but just know that there is tons of scam behind 99% of all YT reviews. Who do you trust then? Watch the ones who actually tear down the product and show you how is it made without their comment. Nothing else.
We have a massive backlog of content to go through. But this was well overdue for a revisit. There’s no shortage of new stuff.
We did a teardown in the original review.
I personally love the 2023 review...
With all the new stuff coming out it's nice to know how they stand up in the 2023 market...
Thanks for these perfect settings!
I have been loving mine for the last 2 years, looks I will love it even more with a firmware and software update
Nice to see you revisit this. Have mine for a year now, still very happy and one of my best purchases that I made for my rig. I am going to try your settings to see how they stack up against mine. Smoothing for Iracing is the same, tested that back to back and responsive was my go to aswell.
Considering this and the SC2 pro. Upgrading from my Moza R9. Thanks for the update.
I had both. Just go VRS and safe 500 euro’s. Buy a wheel for that and thank me later ;)
@@Jeckaa84 that’s my thinking. Save the cash and be good.
@@grayzedynamics smart thinking
Hey Will,
Thanks for all the hard work you do to make these thorough and awesome reviews and other good channel content!
Would you ever consider to make a tierlist of the graining- and detail feel you sometimes describe in the DD wheel base reviews, and all the way to gear motor bases of the Logitech G29 or Thrustmaster T150 as well as the belt driven bases like Thrustmaster T300 an alike. You could skip an tier if the gear and belt bases are that far away from DD's.
Cheers and kind regards
I play with VRS DFP since a year and i have only positive to say about it
i love my VRS !!
Own this one, love it as well 😉.
Good job!
Any clue about an upcoming Meca EVO1 hydraulic review (I mean timeline wise) ?
Hi Will, I also bought the vrs after watching your first video. Just changed my settings to the same as yours as well as updating it. What a difference it feels great. It would be amazing to see what ffb settings you are using on acc and ac or if you have another video with these details ?
Hey will great review of the VRS. Will you be getting your hands on any of the Asetek Wheelbases soon?
I absolutely love mine. The price point was perfect for me, considering its features. There will be fanboys for each manufacturer out there, but the more products we have to choose from the better the competition and price point. I have a Gomez wheel on mine.
Reading the comments I feel like this is a hidden gem.. will definitely get this for my birthday after having a g29 for 5 years
I would LOVE to see you do a video on the Accuforce v2. You would have a TON of settings to figure out with that one!
Huge fan of your work and currently looking at buying the vrs wheel base and pedals. P.s just curious if you were thinking of selling yours
its an awesome base ! on my list are the vrs pedals later this year
Great review. Couple of questions please, that may also be of use for others.
Lots of changes seem to be software. Would you expect from wheelbase if bought used, yet using latest firmware and softwar?
Have you had chance to compare against the Asetek La Prima wheelbase ?
Keep up the great work ! :)
Great new video on the VRS Direct Drive Pro. I race in Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 992 and Mazda Mx5, In iRacing, what value do you put for Max force, Wheel force, Damping, Min force?
Its such a good base and can compete with anything on the market right now tbh. It actually remonds me so much of the simucubes ffb implenentation.
I tried my friends DD1 and the granular "notchy" feeling really bugged me as well, definitely keen on this wheel when I upgrade to a DD wheel then! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the pedals as well... Great review as always, keep up the good work
Exactly my experience. I had a friends DD1 for half a year before investing myself on the VRS. A clear upgrade
Had this wheel since it came out and never had any complaints. It's definitely better than any fanatec garbage.
WOW Will, that wheel looks awesome, what wheel config is that?
It be so cool to see a helicopter 🚁 version and plane version and what's best equipment. 👌 nice build
Excellent video.
What wheel is that?
Good point about making all the titles feel about the same!
Will what is your ETA on the pedal review? Looking at those vs the Sprints so I'm guessing your input would be a deciding factor.
Nice video Will. Very helpful. Can you also post your in game wheel settings for iracing and ACC.? TIA
That is what I also was about to ask for. Just a screenshot of the ingame settings when you drove the VRS base :)
I was hoping for that info as well. But other than that great Video again!
if i had more knowledge before buying my DD1 i wouldve went with vrs for sure but i still like my DD1 alot
Mine will be arriving tomorrow. Unfortunately I wont be able to set it up until 2 weeks time from now, when I'm back from work though. I'm super excited! Work is dragging haha. I'll be trying your settings first, definitely.
I was looking at the SC2 Pro and Asetek Invicta but the price just doesn't seem worth it over this. Going by reviews. The price for the performance is just simply unmatched!
I will be using the Moza KS with this wheel base. Which should be a fantastic combo, as the KS rim is super light! So I should be able to feel tonnes of detail. I have been running the VRS pedals for the past 6 months. So I know VRS is quality brand. A real shame about their wheel rim though. They went back on their whole product model with that imo.
I started with SC2 pro and used that for about a year. Then bought a DD1 used it for a month. Now on a VRS and this is the one i keep. Just as good as SC imo but i can buy a descent wheel as well. Fanatec was not smooth at all no matter what i tried. Oww and i have the VRS pedals as well and those are also way better then the HE sprints i had before.
What made you sell the sc2 pro? Isn’t it still better than VRS?
@@TUGRA14 the reason was simply because i got a good price for it. I bought a wheel for the extra cash. And the VRS is just as good as the SC2.
@@Jeckaa84 what do you think about VRS performance on F1 22? I play iRacing mainly but all my friends are on F1 and SC2 doesn’t feel like what my fanatec used to feel
@@TUGRA14 i don’t play F1 games tbh. I think Fanatec is the better option for that.
hey. which settings are you driving in iracing with these vrs settings?
Nice one get my vrs 2weeks ago.
It would be make the re-review complete if you post your ingame setting, for acc at least for me....
Have a question. Why do you use the 560 wheel range and do you match that in iracing? Run mainly asphalt oval
Hey Will do only Simucube wheels have static force reduction setting? I see this is a setting you would like to see on VRS but wondered why other wheels don’t suffer as much from not having this setting?
Would love a review of the thrustmaster t818
Do you prefer the feeling of big or small sausages? I like both but with the big sausage when I come in too fast it wants to slide out my rear end.
how does this wheelbase compare to something like the asetek la prima?
I love my VRS
Totally unrelated video suggestion, but would you consider looking into the Intel Arc GPUs for sim racing? There isn’t much info on them for sim racing and I know they can be kind of hit or miss depending on the game.
how would you compare the VRS wheel and pedals to the Asetek Forte wheels and pedals?
Except the wireless feature, software and the design, is there anything noticeable better on the SC2 Pro?
Where I can find explanations of what doing what for the software option?
Very nice! I’ve got an R9 right now and this review will help in the future whether I want to upgrade or not. I’m still thinking of either upgrading to this, simagic ecosystem or continue with moza. But out of these options, simagic is the one that is easily reachable as for moza I will either have to ship it from their store or overpay where I live, and VRS I would also need to ship here, while simagic they have an official distributor here. What do you think?
Unless you need more strength I see no reason to upgrade from the R9. It's a great base.
@@boostedmedia At the end its a base that dont require an upgrade in future anymore,, as its enough with 20nm .. , would you recommend their pedals?
Pedal review is coming very soon.
@@boostedmedia its great and all, but i am looking for more strength and a wheel that better suits me. The GS is great and all but doesnt suit me as much haha.
Can always just use other wheels with a hub adaptor.
Unrelated but since you have 3 of those huge monitors you might be able to give a hand m8, have a friend with triple Samsung QN95As 55" but everytime we try to use GSYNC with VRR we loose signal, we are using 8K cables DP to HDMI we manage the 3840x2160 at 120Hz but GSYNC is no no :/ ... did you managed to use VRR and what cables did you use ? Thank you so much
Hey Will can you share you’re Ingame ACC FFB Settings ?
What we need are companies coming out with affordable actuators for motion, this is great the market is growing but 7K for 4 Dbox actuators cmon....
Just bought eracing labs RS Mega for 3k and absolutely love them
Having never tried a DD wheel, I wonder about the Inertia setting. Like should that not come from the physics? On the face of it it sounds like a spring or drift setting on the old Fanatec wheels. Also, I understand ACC or iRacing make sense for comparison due to player numbers making it relevant to the most users. But for outright testing of differences in FFB, why not use rFactor 2? Even if you don't like the game itself, it is the benchmark in FFB much like the Simucube 2 is the benchmark in DD wheels.
My steps for Zen: Logitech Momo racing ->Logitech G29->SimuCube 2 Pro--> ❤VRS DirectForcePro❤
TheEnd!
How is VRS compared to Simcube 2 pro, better or not ?
Could you do a test and configuration for rfactor2?
I use this wheel and I still have no clue what those explanations mean on the new smoothing options
I am so glad i got this base... it was difficult but i saved so much cash getting my own gear and putting together my own wheels etc etc... you just gotta know where to look and its not always name brands. This wont be for everybody but for do it your self kinda folks it saved me on cash but i did not sacrafice quality. This wheel base is close to bulletprouf honestly compared to other brands with issues or have not bin tested form many years yet like OSW bases. However to most i reccomend something more plug and play with a simple ecosystem especially new folks to sim racing. I hope i don't sound crass just trying to keep it real. VRS doesnt hold your hand when it comes to good sim setups or good setups in general. honestly people like boosted media and Dan Sazuki give you better setup advice in one video with a few off hand tips lol. could just be me i like straight forward info not suck wholing on discord maze lol. good people but its most iracing centric. Howerver i love the filters in the software and everthing about the build quality of the VRS base it feels heavenly.
20Nm V3 form sim.plicity just arrived a few days ago
ehm.....
sincerely i love DD
How come you aren’t using 900 degrees of rotation for Iracing Will?
I have done the update but I don’t know what I am doing wrong
But now the steering feels so bad
When I start to turn the force feedback pulls the wheel the same direction
If I let go it will go full lock
What am I doing wrong please help lol
Would you mind exporting your iracing profile on vrs and share it with me, and showing the iracing config screen on sim? I'm becoming desperate as i'm not able to have a realistic feel since the 24h this last weekend. Wheel feels heavy only when turning but with almost no detail whatsoever and it doesnt matter how much tinkering i do i'm not able to acquire the good feeling back, i even formatted windows just in case it has to do with some drivers or usb troubles to no avail. Love your content, keep doing mate!
Set the strength to match the strength you have set in the driver and then run the auto calibration tool in iRacing.
Try turning off your ffb in iracing and turn it back on
@@shakeandbait will try
@@boostedmedia will try, never used auto calibration tool. Is activated by clicking on the red auto letters next to force config on iracing setup?
@@shakeandbait @boostednedia I've tried both your solutions to no avail, actually just sert a mal to vrs. Now my steerin wheel is quiet out of iracing but when i jump into the cars (911gt3 porsche in long beach) the steering wheels goes by itself trying to go left and right while i keep it straight. It's getting worse and i'm afraid of it being a faulty part or smth. Is there any way to factory reset the hub of the wheel?
Is there anywhere I can find the change log by VRS with the notes that were touched on in the video? Thanks
Their discord
If money isn't a concern, I imagine your pick would still be the Simucube 2? I'm debating between the two as I'm currently using the VRS pedals.
Over 500 difference but Feeling Wise Not Wörth the extra 500 For the simucube in my opininion only the Wireless function
Did you buy the SC2 or VRS?
@@damienfiche2592 VRS. My only regret is that it's not driver friendly with simcade games like Fanatec.
@@mediumraresteak851 Is the SC2?
Hi Will. I wanna ask you. if you had to choose a wheel base for ffb quality , what would you choose, Vrs or SC2 pro, the price doesn't matter, only ffb to be very good defined. I have sc2 pro now. Is worth to switch for vrs?. Thanks.
Asetek Invicta would be my choice for outright best FFB. I wouldn’t choose a VRS over a SC2
Can you do an IRFFB2022 review?
i need a sim set up so bad
Thanks for this Will. I’ve owned the VRS Pro since shortly after launch and it’s been flawless for me. My biggest complaint has probably been the fact that VRS doesn’t give a lot of update information on their website, only discord which I don’t have a lot of time to dig through. It’s also hard to find and compare other people’s settings to get you in the ballpark, especially for new users. I’m extremely busy person and I don’t have a lot of time to fiddle with things and so I’ve just been running what works for me. This video was enlightening and you’ve gotten me to experience more of this wheel than I ever have before.
Curious why you run your degrees of rotation at 560 instead of 900 though?
do you know if there is comunity driven discord server?
unless im wrong which is possible, i doubt GT3 cars run 900 degrees. its likely closer to 540 i would imagine
even though I'm broke and cant buy these dd wheelbases, I still watch waiting for that one day I might have money.
I've tried asking very nicely that doesn't work
Hi All
Recently purchased a VRS base and wondering what other wheels people are using with them? I was consider the simmagic. Does the simmagic have any issues when utilising its connection via USB c?
Why not VRS pedals? Most people seem to absolutely love them.
Thrustmaster T818 Review please
Simagic Alpha U vs VRS DD for same price. What would you recommend?
+1
Is it worth upgrading to the VRS from the R9? Asking for a friend.
He actually answers this question in an earlier comment if you look through the all. Did you make a decision?
@@damienfiche2592 Ye I went with the VRS
I see you have your rotation at 560 do you also match that in iracing and acc ?
In ACC I use 560. In iRacing I normally have it set to 900. But forgot to wind it back up. Makes no real difference as long as it’s calibrated in the game. At least not unless you crash and need to turn around. 😂
@@boostedmedia ok roger that cheers bud loving the content this made the wheel feel more real hoefully its nt too the detrimant of slower laptimes but im gonna stick with it any settings you have for high downforce cars lmdh in iracing ?
The VRS wheel base is great. No problems in 18 months. Thoroughly recommended. However, even though I have the same software version, I get no drop down list for smoothing. Similarly, I do not have the games compatibility registry key option. Why is that? Does anyone else have the same problem?
Did you manage to sort the issue
Did you get it sorted John
Please review the Thrustmaster T818 dd wheel
They aren’t responding to our emails unfortunately.
Who has vrs and content manager settings for Assetto Corsa?
Can you use fanatec steering wheels on this wheelbase?
Yes with an adapter/conversion kit from Sim racing machines
I was tempted when VRS came out but instead picked up a Simucube1 with the same 20Nm Mige motor for $1k. Simucube has great software but advantage it supports wireless wheel (with optional wireless BLE adapter), currently running a Cube Controls GT Pro OMP.
I should really update the drivers😂 I havent done a wheelbase update over a year lol