CAGED is the triads, double stops, and chord shapes up neck.. It all leads to each other. The full chords all broke down and connected. Joe Pass was a believer of it. Ricks approach is awesome of course but getting kids early on to understand and learn the neck - CAGED is a must imho.. It also helps in learning sweeps.. If only someone had shown me CAGED when I was in 3rd grade.. I see it as a fast track to getting into neck knowledge and chord/scale understanding. Just my 2 cents..
@@soofitnsexy I guess you mean scale patterns. Anyway, I agree. I think learning scale patterns in relation to CAGED shapes is much more productive than learning the patterns as such. I know this because I initially made the mistake of not learning CAGED. However, I also think that Rick has a fair point. After all, CAGED can limit one's view of the fretboard in comparison to learning these 3-string patterns all over. CAGED sure is more easily-digestable to a beginner, which is an advantage.
@@kgsvvgla2i The thing is, those 3 string arpeggios can all be described as CAGED shape arpeggios. CAGED shaping moves down the fretboard and down the strings respectively. CAGED is just a rational way of describing the shaping of intervals on the guitar down the fretboard and also down the strings.
I rarely write comments, BUT. This helped me so much, i always thought of learning the triads/caged system ect. too difficult or boring, so i put it off, but the way you explained it in this video i literally sat and did all of the shape/triad excercises on C major for an hour to a 1 chord backing track and instantly felt like i know them by heart. Then i tried it in D and it was even easier, because i knew how the intervals looked on the fretboard. If anyone practices this for all keys its worth the time for sure, so GO TRY IT NOW! I can't thank you enough for this Rick!
The "CAGED" system helped me A LOT, in the beginning. Learning guitar & all phrasings and inversions of EVERY chord is made easier for beginners who have learned the basic chord shapes& learn to regard the "pointer" finger AS THE NUT. Rick is a "ZAPPA LEVEL" musical interpreter, and he's showed me more *_digestible_* musical info that could be used than anyone else. Peace Out, Rick! Love You!!!
YES RICK! I was so happy to hear you say to get the CAGED shapes and break them into groups of three strings because that is EXACTLY what I get my students to do when I start looking at chord shapes across the neck 😊 we start with the CAGED concept then do exactly what you do, and learn about the different inversions! It can be tricky at first but it's so satisfying to see them get it and add it to their playing!!
I love Beato. As a beginner I am so overwhelmed by him. Due to my low skill level after about 15 minutes might as well call this video “Watch Rick Play Scales”! I need to hunker down and learn my guitar better. Rick it’s a home run showing the limitations of the CAGED system. Thanks Rick!!! Am going to budget myself into your club soon.
Fretboard Logic book by Bill Edwards is where I first heard of the "CAGED" approach to guitar and the idea was simply to stop trying to force guitar students to learn their instrument the way most other instrument's students do, namely by using the piano as a guide when it simply doesn't apply logically to a guitar's tuning or fretboard. So he came up with a basic approach that anyone who already knows how to play the "cowboy" open chords, C, A, G, E, and D can easily grasp and immediately begin to apply to the rest of the fretboard. It was never intended to be the end all be all. For me, completely self taught by listening to records and copying solos etc, I found it filled in vital missing parts of the neck that were uncharted territory and opened those new scales and chord shapes to add to what I was already doing but made sense of it all as well. Too many instructors are like the Monty Python skit: "How to play the flute, well, you blow in one end and run your fingers up and down the little buttons!"
Guitar books from the 80s and 90s are mostly full of learn scales, major, blues, pentatonic etc, noting how the patterns repeat. Learn Open chords and how they become bar chords is a separate deal altogether... when CAGED came in always baffled me because it just wasn’t in these old books, and I’ve never understood its purpose. I now see it’s a learning tool, possibly a step towards what the older books cover. Either way, it all takes time and effort to learn really well, a lifetime in Rick’s case I’m sure.
My challenge has always been how to translate these exercises to real musical situations without making it sound like an exercise. In a way, learning licks is more valuable (to me), but I find I “remember” the licks much better when exercises like these help me to visualize the music theory behind the lick- say an arpeggio for example.
what rick is showing is a structure to thoroughly understand the instrument. if you thoroughly understand the instrument learning little licks and things comes naturally.
You are possibly the best music teacher on RUclips. I've been trying to wrap my head around modes for years and thanks to you and your videos I'm just now starting to understand how to use them
its about knowing each mode in each given shape. I feel as if the CAGED system allowed me to see the relation of intervals between separate chords more clearly. Also I feel as if the CAGED system gives you the ability to highlight chord changes more fluently, rather than playing in a given mode. Just depends what your going for.
Hi Rick, the way I learned the CAGED system is basically what you described later in your video. I think the main problem with the CAGED system is how it is generally taught. I learned to do the basic chords, then to break them down in triads (which are subsets of the CAGED chords), then add pentatonic scales & etc. The thing about playing above at and below the note for me was how I made sense of the G chord (below), the D chord (at) and the E chord (above), the Justin Sandercoe channel/webpage does a great job of explaining it really well. There's also a video of Guthrie Govan talking about how it works and he explains it in a similar vein to the stuff to said. Enjoyed the video tho, lots of great ideas for the woodshed!
RICK FCKIN BEATO!!!! Dude you fully unlocked the neck for me after 21 years of not even trying to know the neck and the last two trying off and on to learn it through caged and my own system. You unlocked the full fret board for me in the first 7 minutes of this video. This is the best and easiest way I have ever seen to learn the neck and actually works. Thank you again Rick. Your channel has become one of the best resources I have ever found in my 23 years of playing the guitar.
I wish I was at the stage where your smooth transitions made sense enough for me to follow along. Caged system gives me frame of reference. The three string option looks easy enough, reminds me of power chords, just ll over the neck on different sets of strings instead of just the 3 lowest strings. This helps me understand some odd looking song tabs and might make rhythm guitar more nuanced. I think this is best learned once the caged system is understood, not as substitution
I lways prefered triad inversions for guitar as most chords you play are constructed of a triad plus another note in the root usually so it helps you see the construction of the chord and its reltionshiop to other chords as you're playing it. Love your stuff Rick.
Man... bought the Beato Book last year. Finally started going through it this week. I have spent the last two days learning the Major Triad shapes. Stumbled on this video this morning... mind... BLOWN!!!!
Rick, I'm a huge fan. I love your passion for music from the 20th century. Rock, blues, jazz, etc. You cover tons of bases that I wish I had more access to their resources. Again, thanks for your hard work.
Thanks for a thoughtful critique of this system. I only heard about it after I had already learned the neck and how it is connected, so I’ve never really connected with why CAGED is so polular. But I think it has created profound connections for people who are tied to open chords and use a capo to change keys. I personally found it just confused things, as you demonstrated in your initial demo - I can’t get used to calling the D barre chord at the fifth fret “the A shape” cause its a D chord and so on. It’s like going backwards in how I understand the guitar. Thanks!
I've made more break thru's following Rick in the last year than the previous 20 years, anyone who's starting out, forget tab! Learn theory and learn the neck - there's only really one shape - the diatonic scale, wish I knew that when I was 17, and learn the circle of 5ths and your 75% of the way there already - there's no question Beato is the musical king of RUclips - its all I the Beato book
I just wanted to comment. I know it might be hard to believe but I have watched every one of your videos from start to end. Half the time I have no idea what you're talking about. I started playing guitar at 50. I'm a couple of months younger than you. I always wanted to learn to play guitar but life got in the way. Thank you for what you do. You inspire me!
Viewer beware. I don’t think this video does the CAGE system justice. Watch Rick closely, he doesn’t play the CAGE chords correctly, as he’s giving examples of how the CAGE system works. Don’t get me wrong, Rick is an absolute master. I bought his book, and I bought the ear training course. I am using both of them. I watch Rick’s videos, and I have learned so much. But no one is perfect, and I believe this video misses the mark for the student in the first year or 2 of building mastery of the guitar neck. For a better review of the system watch Steve Gilson’s video’s, CAGE, 3 notes per string, and unifying the 2 systems. Still, I get a lot from this video: don’t be happy with just the CAGE positions and forms, but work on moving through the 5 positions, using triads, then over time adding the 7th, then the 9th. I’ll be doing that (next year) after I get the basic scales and sounds of the scales in my fingers and ears. I’m not trying to find a short cut with the CAGE system, I’m trying to create a template in my head for the guitar neck, simple at first, then graduating to the more complex, then hopefully one day playing something close to what we see and hear in this video. I don’t think Rick you will ever see this comment, but maybe it will help someone else. Cheers.
I totally agree with you. I watch his videos, bought the book (mostly to help support the channel) and I really appreciate his advice, his experience... Priceless. But today something was wrong. Apart from what you said, this seems to me Rick showing off. He did say from the beginning that he doesn't like the CAGED system. But I must say this is possibly the "less good" video from Rick I've seen.
@@lincolnbuck yes, I totally agree. And I’m finding that once your familiar with the major and minor scales, the pentatonic and other scales fall right into the 5 forms of the caged scales. And if that’s not enough, when your real familiar with 5 forms in the various scales, you can move easily (with a lot of practice, so not so easily) from one form to the other, up and down the fretboard. And then your really playing the instrument. But the beginning is to learn the 5 separate boxes of the caged system, carefully and completely. Maybe some people don’t do that, or recommend against it, but I agree with you, for the beginner and even intermediate player it’s a very helpful system.
I disagree with the CAGED shapes not being "connected". The way I learned it is that each CAGED shape is contained inside a pentatonic position, so if you know your minor/major pentatonics and how to connect those up and down the neck, you can visualize the CAGED shapes inside them, as well as the complete diatonic scales around them. Maybe I'm missing something but thinking about it that way has helped me a lot.
Caged system is excellent and shows you everything Rick just showed here Caged connects all scales and chords in one cohesive system You dont learn these things overnight though
I find it useful in a similar way, knowing the root position all over the neck means you can forget the different pentatonic positions as really there is only one pentatonic scale, then you realise the position of the intervals from that root position, realise how to play the minor from that same position, it’s all valuable stuff.
I agree with Rick's point here---you need to be able to visualize it all over the neck I had the fortunate chance to meet Pat Martino at the Jazz Standard after a show last year. His advice to me was always know where your thirds are as you vizualize what you're playing over the neck. As a bass player who plays guitar as his secondary instrument this advice was invaluable. I've done it for years on bass and its now making sense on guitar
The CAGED System shapes connect like Legos up the neck. The forms/shapes are connected. You fill in the forms with notes from the major scale and pentatonics. You can transpose as needed. It's a logical system to see notes on the fret board, triads within scales, create more complex chords and embellish them.
This is brilliant I’m applying all this to bass. I’ve always practiced moving around the neck hitting open strings but these shapes allow such easy transitions as you move around.
CAGED the best way to learn all the notes on the neck , & all the harmonised chords in the 5 positions in any chosen key.. a truly liberating approach.💡👌
I have to say learning caged helped me immensely but I agree you can't compartmentalize the positions. You have to see how it's all connected so you can flow from one "position" to the next. The thing that helped me simplify caged even further is that I really see it as 3 positions not 5. The A shape and G shape are really 2 sides of the same coin. And C and D also are easy to combine into one. Then when I look at the fretboard I see those 3 chord shapes (C,A,E) , the pentatonic shapes around them and the scales and arpeggios built into those. I also to a certain degree see the intervals but at some point I'm trying not to think about it because you have to then let your fingers take over and play by ear.
Lancelot Link ..that fits the way caged works for me, too. Within that I enjoy seeing the mini octaves (always one above the root -toward the bridge, and one behind - toward the nut) ...as there are caged form flips and blends at those points.
@@Elido Well there's no shortage of people teaching caged on youtube. Maybe check out PapaStach. But what was helpful to me is to just look at a caged chart and study that. Notice how the G position contains the major pentatonic scale. Every time I learn some new piece of the puzzle whether it be scales or arpeggios or extended chords I always like to first see how those fit into the major and minor pentatonics because those are familiar places to play. As long as you always relate a new idea to what you know you will find that they all fit together. Good luck.
I just bought "The BEATO BOOK", (WITH TODAY'S DISCOUNT!) WOW!!!! SO MUCH INFORMATION, IN THAT PDF!!! I NEED TO GO BUY A WHOLE REAM OF PAPER, AND BUY MORE PRINTER INK, TO PRINT IT ALL OUT!!! ~500 PAGES!!!! THANKS FOR SO MUCH SHARED KNOWLEDGE!!!!
Back when I was at GIT (MI now) in '80 or '81 Joe Pass showed me the CAGED system vs the 7 position classical system I was using. If I remember correctly the classical system theory was 1 position for each of the 7 notes in a major/minor scale. I use both now. (50 years later) But I always thought that if it was good enough for Joe it most certainly must be good enough for me ...
Enjoyed this video Rick. After years of just winging it, I have been starting to actually learn the instrument. You seem to enjoy playing it, and you are a very good teacher. Thanks. Love this stuff. Will pick up book soon.
I had never heard of the caged system until a student asked about it. I started on guitar in 1963 and I was just taught to read and I studied classical guitar and that just forces you to learn the neck and not just see it as shapes...The shapes are there but there's more to making music than playing shapes
What ever works seems right to me. Now I agree that there is more to making music than shapes. Passion, desire to speak that language anyone can understand if it is real. "Music is the best" Moon Unit Zappa! seeya
You can know, but applying it is a different story . . . That's the exact problem I'm having in both my hobbies rn. I'm learning guitar and Japanese rn, but let's focus on my music journey. I have a firm grasp on music theory with heavy emphasis on jazz theory; if you told me a term I could define it easily, and I'm fairly familiar with scales and stuff like that, but whenever I apply the knowledge it sounds like utter sh*t. You can know and play shapes, but you are correct, it's not music; learning those shapes however can help you familiarize yourself with the neck a lot faster (when I started thinking of what I was playing on guitar as shapes first, then learning the note names, I was able to connect the shapes fairly quickly, within like two weeks) so you can start learning and focusing on proper technique, fingerings, arpeggios, chords, and other stuff like that without getting bogged down too much with thinking about what you can and can't play while staying in key.
@@あなたがすごいだよ "Bogged down" - that just doesn't happen when you truly learn your notes though. Thinking in shapes is what actually slows people down. Pat Metheney knows his notes. He doesn't used CAGED at all. Learn your notes, intervals, and chords. Fuck CAGED.
@@thirstypilgrim97 please share your secret wisdom on guitar pick removal from Acoustic gtars? I think I have spent 30 hrs of my life trying to get them buggers!
@@quantum_net219 I want to know how to retrieve them from the pick gremlins that constantly steal them as I can never find the picks I just bought and I *know* I put them down next to my guitar. There is some massive pick vortex the gremlins use to steal them and it's pissing me off
@@timothyryan6018 - Best method that I have heard of is to train large spiders, but that guy was a guitar player, and you know guitar players... Actually, I have heard about a really tiny quad-rotor drone about the same size as a 9V battery designed to be run as a phone app. If it was developed to actually pick up the guitar pick and could be produced cheaply enough, then every guitar player could have one in the storage place in his guitar case. Somebody out there must have a friend who is tech savvy and likes a challenge. I have to think that there's probably somebody who has one and has struck out with a major company, who wanted too big a share of the money, or something like that.
Absolutely love these lessons! I'm curious if there might be a playlist hiding somewhere with all these lessons in an order that would synch up with the book's progression. Feel like that would make the learning experience that much more intuitive :)
I have just discovered Maestro Beato. I prefer his packaged, edited videos to the streamed ones because there is a bit of fooling around and wandering around on the streaming videos. But make no mistake, this man is a gift.
sorry it’s off topic but I can’t stop smiling since you said What Makes This Song Great with Genesis I personally hope it’s something before or from trick of the tail, but anyway, really awesome channel thank you. You actually helped a lot with my matura paper, my friend and me, we recorded an EP and I mixed it and got everything from your channel.
This is amazing Rick! When you were moving the triads in the circle of fifths it reminded me of Pat Metheny warming up before his solo concert! This is to me the only way to really unlock the guitar and gives one the ability to play all music from Bach to Bebop!
It helps a lot to just take, for example the D and the A shape on the top 3/4 strings. Then you remember the root is always in the middle, the 5th is on top (from where you are looking) and the 3rd is on the bottom. So now your major chord is basically 5 1 3. All you have to do for a min. chord is move the 3rd a half step down, just remember how you finger your Dm and Am chords. This now goes for all chord formulas (no extended chords here). If I can understand this anyone can.
I changed CAGED to BAGED, because the first C on the guitar is on the B string (Low to hight, or East to West) as Pat Martino says. It makes it easier for he student to memorize the 5 basic open chord positions. Plus each of the 5 BAGED positions produce 2 voicing's
Excellent approach! I think you should do one on simply learning the NOTES on the full neck. Then, this higher level of chord shapes will make more sense. I wish I had learned the notes (by sight alone) much earlier in my guitar playing life. It makes everything easier. Thanks again Rick!
Yes I agree completely. CAGED is a shortcut for people who think learning the notes is too hard. But the reason why Rick can play so effortlessly is because he knows his notes. The secret is to focus on one string at a time. Turn the guitar into a linear instrument like the piano. Then add one string, then another. That's why you learn a 6 string guitar before learning a 7 string guitar. But no one makes a 1 string guitar....
What helped me was taking any fretted note and to consider it the root. And adk my self where is all the near by minor 2nd, Major 2nd, Minor 3rd, Major 3rd, perfect forth, augmented forth, perfect fifth, augmented 5th, 6th, flat 7th, 7th and next octive. Then try to in all positions. Look at various chords and say what intervals make up this shape? Also i am learning caged and 3nps. Playing caged accending then playing 3nps decensing by adding an extra note on high e to the caged snd coming back 3nps. And think of all the intervals as you go. Also then doing appregios of 1 3 5, 1 b3 5, 1 3 5 7, 1 b3 5 b7. And you can try tohers with 2 4 6 etc. Knowing how to jump from the one interval to another interval also helps. This way not everything had to be compared to the root all the time. Then practicing caged in all 5 positions, 3nps in all 7 positions, 4nps, and appregios helps to get the patters into your memory. And since you already practiced understanding all the intervals slowly. You would have a more complete picture
I had guitar lessons for about 8 months, he taught me the caged system. It definitely layed out the neck in an understandable way for me, and it was a useful tool for me once I stopped lessons and had to approach new situations by myself. It sounds like what you're saying is to learn the scales & arpeggios around each of the caged shapes? IE - if you're on the low E string, G shape is "behind" E shape is On, and D shape is (roughly) above?
Rick probably has forgotten why he knows the shapes he knows. In my opinion, the reason why Rick can play all these triads and their inversion on 3-string combinations is because he knows the notes on the guitar. This is how musicians on other instruments learn. They learn their notes. CAGED is for people who think learning notes is too hard. It is true that if you try to learn notes on all 6 strings at the same time, it can be daunting. I always recommend Single String Playing before Position Playing. Turn the guitar into a linear instrument (like the piano) by "eliminating" 5 strings and get a deep understanding of just one string. Learn the notes on the entire string in all positions. Then move to another string...
Hey Rick, this comment is unrelated to this video, but I'm at a place of disbelief in what I've found. I have recently discovered Phillip Sayce and am blown away that he doesnt have the social media presence like his peers such as Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Joe Bonamassa, Eric Gales etc... This dude is right up there with them guys in the Blues arena. He in my opinion incapsulates the sound, style, and feel of SRV and Hendrix while still having his own flare... I know that you don't really get into a lot of Blues guys, but man it would be incredible for you to interview or showcase him. He brings so much to the table in blues. Another guy thats undermentioned that you could have a field day with musically speaking on guitar is Monte Montgommery.
I had already learned caged, but when I took a moment to learn the triads and inversions that Rick demonstrated here and combined those with the 5 scale shapes I had already been using… holy cow, my playing is so much more flexible.
Finally, someone who speaks the truth about the CAGED system! I'll never understand why people teach guitar chords using that system instead of grouping strings in sets of 3 or 4. Another major issue with the CAGED approach is that when people think they’re learning, they’re not actually thinking about the notes they’re playing. Instead, they rely on visual patterns and muscle memory. As a result, when they face more complex situations, they don’t know how to adapt because they haven’t developed the habit of thinking in terms of notes and intervals.
The cage system is a must for chord melody. If you think in terms of modes it makes more sense (for me anyway). Ionian starts the process, that's the E shape, so in other words the system is modal, not alphabetical. It's really simple once get the concept: Play the E shape in the first position, move up one full step to the third position and play the D shape which magically is the E scale, up one more full step and play the C shape , magically is the E scale again. Works every time you start with the E shape.
Man, this has just opened my brain like I’ve needed for a while. Learning scale shapes, arpeggios, and the caged system just never connected everything for me. I quit playing for a while and am getting back into it. I’m so excited to use this info
Daniel Collins yeah exactly for me too- it’s like he’s helping us push into places we never knew how to approach, like what direction even to know where to explore? :)))
CAGED encourages learning chords and scale patterns in 5 positions. I like this cause it makes things less daunting. Yes there are 7 modes but for Ionian/locrian Phrygian/Lydian it's the a same pattern only starting and ending one fret lower so 5 scale patterns and 5 starting positions is the key to mastering the neck for Jazz guitar. I'm a strong advocate of not using chord books but instead manipulating these 5 chords into more complex chord qualtities.
Hey Rick...What you are offering on these postings is really wonderful...I was a Guitar Teacher for most of my working life...Though you make me feel that I was teaching in my sleep as hard & Keen that I was to do it right..Man you have raised the Guitar teaching bar so High....Now here is my request...How about getting together with Paul McCartney for a chat with guitars in hand...I reckon that that would be the Biggest Scoop of All...And A lot of people will love it !!
@@EnterJustice on any group of 3 adjacent strings (note - of which there are four: {E-B-G}, {B-G-D}, {G-D-A}, {D-A-E}), you can make a triad three different ways. 4 x 3 = 12. For example: on the top 3 strings play a D chord based on the 3rd fret D note. Slide that D note up to the 3rd and play the 1st inversion (stay on same 3 strings), and then slide up to the 5th and play the 2nd inversion. Do this on all 4 sets of "3 adjacent strings". Practice this w/ major, minor, diminished to start. This will give you 12 ways to make any given chord and you'll know your 1's, 3's & 5s much better all across the neck. I see harmony for soloing as an onion and at the center is the triad (3 notes) or chord notes - the safest notes of all. So it's a great base for everything else. You can also practice these triads moving across the strings as well as up the neck. Start with the same D & move across the 4 string sets. 2 of the notes will remain, just find the one you dropped - it's there! (hint: these are the same extended chord shapes that CAGED describe). Guthrie Trapp has a really good vid teaching the "across the neck" approach you can search out. I recommend practicing both.
@@johnmaloney1681 Thanks for that explanation. Us guitarists have a nasty habit of overusing the open chords, whereas there's so many different voicings of chords.
CAGED helped me to see chords easily, but I also quickly found its usefulness was constrained to standard tunings and the tonalities that it tended to emphasize were either Ionian or Aeolian, maybe other modes but in the root position. For a while I switched to 4ths tuning like Stanley Jordan and with the symmetry of intervals across all strings in 4ths tuning, the 3NPS was the only system that could map out the shapes horizontally and vertically. And when I went back to standard tuning, the 3NPS was what stuck, and I found it easier to connect positions located above or below the particular positions in the 3NPS mapping on which I happen to be.
I heard some licks from Crossroads....and even a Van Halen cathedral there...amazing how those things come together. You appreciate the music more when you see its roots.
Back in my early days of guitar lessons we called Behind the note as "Backhand", then "Cross hand" (at the note), and Cello for above the note. Although I cannot remember who's method book I was reading from back then. They say the memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first thing is.
I spent so much practice time into Scales..Arpeggios...Chords...That I wrote a sign across the the bottom of my music stand saying..."Just Play Songs"...which is something that I once heard Joe Pass say on one of his videos !!
I was just thinking Genesis as you said it! To me that alone is amazing! Anyway I was hoping to guide you towards the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway! I know it's not a guitar heavy album, but, it entwined nicely with the keyboards. The guitar work of Steve Hackett is just SOoverlooked by guitarists.
Agree with the concept. CAGED is good enuf if you know all the intervals between the notes in the different positions. The Beato system with dividing it into triads / inverted triads all around the neck is cool too. It helps give a layout when shredding arpeggios and such. But I think whichever works best for the individual player is the one the player should work.
Your pretty amazing... the skill you've developed in the loving spirit of the way of such devotion that shows... like many others in the humble times not being subjected to the error and unrest of others of the trials of life, which I see as true freedom being the time free from the stress of everyday life which music has a way of soothing, along with good friendly relationships..
Great stuff Rick, trying to catch up on all of these and remember what little theory have been gathering dust in the corner for too many years... keep it coming!
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CAGED is the triads, double stops, and chord shapes up neck.. It all leads to each other. The full chords all broke down and connected. Joe Pass was a believer of it. Ricks approach is awesome of course but getting kids early on to understand and learn the neck - CAGED is a must imho.. It also helps in learning sweeps.. If only someone had shown me CAGED when I was in 3rd grade.. I see it as a fast track to getting into neck knowledge and chord/scale understanding. Just my 2 cents..
@@soofitnsexy I guess you mean scale patterns. Anyway, I agree. I think learning scale patterns in relation to CAGED shapes is much more productive than learning the patterns as such. I know this because I initially made the mistake of not learning CAGED. However, I also think that Rick has a fair point. After all, CAGED can limit one's view of the fretboard in comparison to learning these 3-string patterns all over. CAGED sure is more easily-digestable to a beginner, which is an advantage.
@@kgsvvgla2i The thing is, those 3 string arpeggios can all be described as CAGED shape arpeggios. CAGED shaping moves down the fretboard and down the strings respectively. CAGED is just a rational way of describing the shaping of intervals on the guitar down the fretboard and also down the strings.
Like everyone else who teaches triads, Rick forgets about the SECOND inversions on the lower strings
I rarely write comments, BUT. This helped me so much, i always thought of learning the triads/caged system ect. too difficult or boring, so i put it off, but the way you explained it in this video i literally sat and did all of the shape/triad excercises on C major for an hour to a 1 chord backing track and instantly felt like i know them by heart. Then i tried it in D and it was even easier, because i knew how the intervals looked on the fretboard. If anyone practices this for all keys its worth the time for sure, so GO TRY IT NOW! I can't thank you enough for this Rick!
The "CAGED" system helped me A LOT, in the beginning. Learning guitar & all phrasings and inversions of EVERY chord is made easier for beginners who have learned the basic chord shapes& learn to regard the "pointer" finger AS THE NUT. Rick is a "ZAPPA LEVEL" musical interpreter, and he's showed me more *_digestible_* musical info that could be used than anyone else. Peace Out, Rick! Love You!!!
YES RICK! I was so happy to hear you say to get the CAGED shapes and break them into groups of three strings because that is EXACTLY what I get my students to do when I start looking at chord shapes across the neck 😊 we start with the CAGED concept then do exactly what you do, and learn about the different inversions! It can be tricky at first but it's so satisfying to see them get it and add it to their playing!!
I love Beato. As a beginner I am so overwhelmed by him. Due to my low skill level after about 15 minutes might as well call this video “Watch Rick Play Scales”! I need to hunker down and learn my guitar better. Rick it’s a home run showing the limitations of the CAGED system. Thanks Rick!!! Am going to budget myself into your club soon.
could you do a lesson on dropping your pick without it falling into another dimension?
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It's probably somwhere in the sock dimension...
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I bet that pick is still in that stolen Alvarez :, (
Fretboard Logic book by Bill Edwards is where I first heard of the "CAGED" approach to guitar and the idea was simply to stop trying to force guitar students to learn their instrument the way most other instrument's students do, namely by using the piano as a guide when it simply doesn't apply logically to a guitar's tuning or fretboard. So he came up with a basic approach that anyone who already knows how to play the "cowboy" open chords, C, A, G, E, and D can easily grasp and immediately begin to apply to the rest of the fretboard. It was never intended to be the end all be all. For me, completely self taught by listening to records and copying solos etc, I found it filled in vital missing parts of the neck that were uncharted territory and opened those new scales and chord shapes to add to what I was already doing but made sense of it all as well. Too many instructors are like the Monty Python skit: "How to play the flute, well, you blow in one end and run your fingers up and down the little buttons!"
Greatest flute lesson ever!
I picked up that same book by Bill Edwards and I am currently starting that book to learn it as part of my learning my guitar neck.
Guitar books from the 80s and 90s are mostly full of learn scales, major, blues, pentatonic etc, noting how the patterns repeat. Learn Open chords and how they become bar chords is a separate deal altogether... when CAGED came in always baffled me because it just wasn’t in these old books, and I’ve never understood its purpose. I now see it’s a learning tool, possibly a step towards what the older books cover. Either way, it all takes time and effort to learn really well, a lifetime in Rick’s case I’m sure.
@@charlesmiller3916 2 years later, I bet you never stuck with it
Loved that book! (Not talking about the Monty skit)
My challenge has always been how to translate these exercises to real musical situations without making it sound like an exercise. In a way, learning licks is more valuable (to me), but I find I “remember” the licks much better when exercises like these help me to visualize the music theory behind the lick- say an arpeggio for example.
what rick is showing is a structure to thoroughly understand the instrument. if you thoroughly understand the instrument learning little licks and things comes naturally.
You are possibly the best music teacher on RUclips. I've been trying to wrap my head around modes for years and thanks to you and your videos I'm just now starting to understand how to use them
its about knowing each mode in each given shape. I feel as if the CAGED system allowed me to see the relation of intervals between separate chords more clearly. Also I feel as if the CAGED system gives you the ability to highlight chord changes more fluently, rather than playing in a given mode. Just depends what your going for.
Triads, arpeggios learning the notes, major scale is where I’m at. Thank you 🙏As always, you have a great perspective
Hi Rick, the way I learned the CAGED system is basically what you described later in your video. I think the main problem with the CAGED system is how it is generally taught. I learned to do the basic chords, then to break them down in triads (which are subsets of the CAGED chords), then add pentatonic scales & etc. The thing about playing above at and below the note for me was how I made sense of the G chord (below), the D chord (at) and the E chord (above), the Justin Sandercoe channel/webpage does a great job of explaining it really well. There's also a video of Guthrie Govan talking about how it works and he explains it in a similar vein to the stuff to said. Enjoyed the video tho, lots of great ideas for the woodshed!
RICK FCKIN BEATO!!!! Dude you fully unlocked the neck for me after 21 years of not even trying to know the neck and the last two trying off and on to learn it through caged and my own system. You unlocked the full fret board for me in the first 7 minutes of this video. This is the best and easiest way I have ever seen to learn the neck and actually works. Thank you again Rick. Your channel has become one of the best resources I have ever found in my 23 years of playing the guitar.
I wish I was at the stage where your smooth transitions made sense enough for me to follow along.
Caged system gives me frame of reference. The three string option looks easy enough, reminds me of power chords, just ll over the neck on different sets of strings instead of just the 3 lowest strings. This helps me understand some odd looking song tabs and might make rhythm guitar more nuanced.
I think this is best learned once the caged system is understood, not as substitution
Hey rick I just want to thank you for making these videos!!!
I lways prefered triad inversions for guitar as most chords you play are constructed of a triad plus another note in the root usually so it helps you see the construction of the chord and its reltionshiop to other chords as you're playing it. Love your stuff Rick.
Man... bought the Beato Book last year. Finally started going through it this week. I have spent the last two days learning the Major Triad shapes. Stumbled on this video this morning... mind... BLOWN!!!!
Rick, I'm a huge fan. I love your passion for music from the 20th century. Rock, blues, jazz, etc. You cover tons of bases that I wish I had more access to their resources. Again, thanks for your hard work.
Just bought the book. Can’t wait to get stuck in. Thanks Rick.
Thanks for a thoughtful critique of this system. I only heard about it after I had already learned the neck and how it is connected, so I’ve never really connected with why CAGED is so polular. But I think it has created profound connections for people who are tied to open chords and use a capo to change keys.
I personally found it just confused things, as you demonstrated in your initial demo - I can’t get used to calling the D barre chord at the fifth fret “the A shape” cause its a D chord and so on. It’s like going backwards in how I understand the guitar.
Thanks!
CAGED is a shortcut to get people to think they've learned the neck when they really haven't.
thank you Rick !
nobody is teaching us everything about guitar and theory and music in general the way you are.
GOD BLESS YOU
Eye opener. Learning it like this makes you concentrate on the triad. The BEATO System. 135, 351, 513. Awesome. Thanks!!!
I've made more break thru's following Rick in the last year than the previous 20 years, anyone who's starting out, forget tab! Learn theory and learn the neck - there's only really one shape - the diatonic scale, wish I knew that when I was 17, and learn the circle of 5ths and your 75% of the way there already - there's no question Beato is the musical king of RUclips - its all I the Beato book
I am glad your on youtube ,there are no short cuts to playing the guitar.
I just wanted to comment. I know it might be hard to believe but I have watched every one of your videos from start to end. Half the time I have no idea what you're talking about. I started playing guitar at 50. I'm a couple of months younger than you. I always wanted to learn to play guitar but life got in the way. Thank you for what you do. You inspire me!
Viewer beware. I don’t think this video does the CAGE system justice. Watch Rick closely, he doesn’t play the CAGE chords correctly, as he’s giving examples of how the CAGE system works. Don’t get me wrong, Rick is an absolute master. I bought his book, and I bought the ear training course. I am using both of them. I watch Rick’s videos, and I have learned so much. But no one is perfect, and I believe this video misses the mark for the student in the first year or 2 of building mastery of the guitar neck. For a better review of the system watch Steve Gilson’s video’s, CAGE, 3 notes per string, and unifying the 2 systems. Still, I get a lot from this video: don’t be happy with just the CAGE positions and forms, but work on moving through the 5 positions, using triads, then over time adding the 7th, then the 9th. I’ll be doing that (next year) after I get the basic scales and sounds of the scales in my fingers and ears. I’m not trying to find a short cut with the CAGE system, I’m trying to create a template in my head for the guitar neck, simple at first, then graduating to the more complex, then hopefully one day playing something close to what we see and hear in this video. I don’t think Rick you will ever see this comment, but maybe it will help someone else. Cheers.
I totally agree with you. I watch his videos, bought the book (mostly to help support the channel) and I really appreciate his advice, his experience... Priceless. But today something was wrong. Apart from what you said, this seems to me Rick showing off. He did say from the beginning that he doesn't like the CAGED system. But I must say this is possibly the "less good" video from Rick I've seen.
@@lincolnbuck yes, I totally agree. And I’m finding that once your familiar with the major and minor scales, the pentatonic and other scales fall right into the 5 forms of the caged scales. And if that’s not enough, when your real familiar with 5 forms in the various scales, you can move easily (with a lot of practice, so not so easily) from one form to the other, up and down the fretboard. And then your really playing the instrument. But the beginning is to learn the 5 separate boxes of the caged system, carefully and completely. Maybe some people don’t do that, or recommend against it, but I agree with you, for the beginner and even intermediate player it’s a very helpful system.
Much Love Rick, this videos are helping me thru seriously tough times.
This seriously helped open up the fretboard a little bit more for me
. Always enjoy your videos and the way you teach. THANK YOU RICK :)
I disagree with the CAGED shapes not being "connected". The way I learned it is that each CAGED shape is contained inside a pentatonic position, so if you know your minor/major pentatonics and how to connect those up and down the neck, you can visualize the CAGED shapes inside them, as well as the complete diatonic scales around them. Maybe I'm missing something but thinking about it that way has helped me a lot.
true
I haven't mastered it but that's how I do it also.
On the same path here
Caged system is excellent and shows you everything Rick just showed here Caged connects all scales and chords in one cohesive system You dont learn these things overnight though
I find it useful in a similar way, knowing the root position all over the neck means you can forget the different pentatonic positions as really there is only one pentatonic scale, then you realise the position of the intervals from that root position, realise how to play the minor from that same position, it’s all valuable stuff.
Good god to think I used to have to watch TV instead of stuff like this. Thank you RUclips! Long live King Beato!
I agree with Rick's point here---you need to be able to visualize it all over the neck
I had the fortunate chance to meet Pat Martino at the Jazz Standard after a show last year.
His advice to me was always know where your thirds are as you vizualize what you're playing over the neck. As a bass player who plays guitar as his secondary instrument this advice was invaluable.
I've done it for years on bass and its now making sense on guitar
I came interested in finding out Ricks opinion on the Caged system, stayed right till the end as usual, this guy is phenomenal!!! So accessible...
The CAGED System shapes connect like Legos up the neck. The forms/shapes are connected. You fill in the forms with notes from the major scale and pentatonics. You can transpose as needed. It's a logical system to see notes on the fret board, triads within scales, create more complex chords and embellish them.
just picked up the Beato Book bundle. Thanks for all you do Rick!
This is brilliant I’m applying all this to bass. I’ve always practiced moving around the neck hitting open strings but these shapes allow such easy transitions as you move around.
Now you can see how Steve Howe comes up with infinite number of never ending interesting melody lines. Always loved Howe’s style.
CAGED the best way to learn all the notes on the neck , & all the harmonised chords in the 5 positions in any chosen key.. a truly liberating approach.💡👌
That trademark dramatic pause at the beginning
Chills
I have to say learning caged helped me immensely but I agree you can't compartmentalize the positions. You have to see how it's all connected so you can flow from one "position" to the next. The thing that helped me simplify caged even further is that I really see it as 3 positions not 5. The A shape and G shape are really 2 sides of the same coin. And C and D also are easy to combine into one. Then when I look at the fretboard I see those 3 chord shapes (C,A,E) , the pentatonic shapes around them and the scales and arpeggios built into those. I also to a certain degree see the intervals but at some point I'm trying not to think about it because you have to then let your fingers take over and play by ear.
Lancelot Link ..that fits the way caged works for me, too. Within that I enjoy seeing the mini octaves (always one above the root -toward the bridge, and one behind - toward the nut) ...as there are caged form flips and blends at those points.
Lancelot Link what kind of resources did you to get this down? I am just starting to dig into caged.
@@Elido Well there's no shortage of people teaching caged on youtube. Maybe check out PapaStach. But what was helpful to me is to just look at a caged chart and study that. Notice how the G position contains the major pentatonic scale. Every time I learn some new piece of the puzzle whether it be scales or arpeggios or extended chords I always like to first see how those fit into the major and minor pentatonics because those are familiar places to play. As long as you always relate a new idea to what you know you will find that they all fit together. Good luck.
Lancelot Link Thanks man.
That is great news! Congratz Rick on the WMTSG videos! Some of your most entertaining and advertising attractive work!
Rick you're just incredible, my mind is blown all the time watching you. Your knowledge is just nuts.
I just bought "The BEATO BOOK", (WITH TODAY'S DISCOUNT!) WOW!!!! SO MUCH INFORMATION, IN THAT PDF!!! I NEED TO GO BUY A WHOLE REAM OF PAPER, AND BUY MORE PRINTER INK, TO PRINT IT ALL OUT!!! ~500 PAGES!!!! THANKS FOR SO MUCH SHARED KNOWLEDGE!!!!
I am new and do not even know how to buy that Beato book
@@joseceraia there is a link in the description of this video.
It really is a great book if you are or aspire to be a theory nerd
one of the best guitar lessons great playing examples
Back when I was at GIT (MI now) in '80 or '81 Joe Pass showed me the CAGED system vs the 7 position classical system I was using. If I remember correctly the classical system theory was 1 position for each of the 7 notes in a major/minor scale. I use both now. (50 years later) But I always thought that if it was good enough for Joe it most certainly must be good enough for me ...
Rick, I don't always agree with you, but I always listen to you. Thanks.
Enjoyed this video Rick. After years of just winging it, I have been starting to actually learn the instrument. You seem to enjoy playing it, and you are a very good teacher. Thanks. Love this stuff. Will pick up book soon.
I had never heard of the caged system until a student asked about it. I started on guitar in 1963 and I was just taught to read and I studied classical guitar and that just forces you to learn the neck and not just see it as shapes...The shapes are there but there's more to making music than playing shapes
What ever works seems right to me. Now I agree that there is more to making music than shapes. Passion, desire to speak that language anyone can understand if it is real. "Music is the best" Moon Unit Zappa! seeya
You can know, but applying it is a different story . . . That's the exact problem I'm having in both my hobbies rn.
I'm learning guitar and Japanese rn, but let's focus on my music journey. I have a firm grasp on music theory with heavy emphasis on jazz theory; if you told me a term I could define it easily, and I'm fairly familiar with scales and stuff like that, but whenever I apply the knowledge it sounds like utter sh*t.
You can know and play shapes, but you are correct, it's not music; learning those shapes however can help you familiarize yourself with the neck a lot faster (when I started thinking of what I was playing on guitar as shapes first, then learning the note names, I was able to connect the shapes fairly quickly, within like two weeks) so you can start learning and focusing on proper technique, fingerings, arpeggios, chords, and other stuff like that without getting bogged down too much with thinking about what you can and can't play while staying in key.
@@あなたがすごいだよ "Bogged down" - that just doesn't happen when you truly learn your notes though. Thinking in shapes is what actually slows people down. Pat Metheney knows his notes. He doesn't used CAGED at all. Learn your notes, intervals, and chords. Fuck CAGED.
Rick! U just got shout out on that pedal show! So cool. Well deserved. Your smartest musician in my news feed lol.
Rick the type of dude to pick up the guitar pick he dropped
@@thirstypilgrim97 turn the guitar upside down and dance the Macarena
@@thirstypilgrim97 please share your secret wisdom on guitar pick removal from
Acoustic gtars? I think I have spent 30 hrs of my life trying to get them buggers!
@@quantum_net219 I want to know how to retrieve them from the pick gremlins that constantly steal them as I can never find the picks I just bought and I *know* I put them down next to my guitar. There is some massive pick vortex the gremlins use to steal them and it's pissing me off
I even pick up the picks that other people drop!
@@timothyryan6018 - Best method that I have heard of is to train large spiders, but that guy was a guitar player, and you know guitar players...
Actually, I have heard about a really tiny quad-rotor drone about the same size as a 9V battery designed to be run as a phone app. If it was developed to actually pick up the guitar pick and could be produced cheaply enough, then every guitar player could have one in the storage place in his guitar case.
Somebody out there must have a friend who is tech savvy and likes a challenge. I have to think that there's probably somebody who has one and has struck out with a major company, who wanted too big a share of the money, or something like that.
First coherent discussion of this I’ve heard
Rick, just grabbed a copy of the Beato Book. So excited to get started!
Loved the at/above/behind concept.... Learning the scales with that in mind will for sure improve my playing
Absolutely love these lessons! I'm curious if there might be a playlist hiding somewhere with all these lessons in an order that would synch up with the book's progression. Feel like that would make the learning experience that much more intuitive :)
I have just discovered Maestro Beato. I prefer his packaged, edited videos to the streamed ones because there is a bit of fooling around and wandering around on the streaming videos. But make no mistake, this man is a gift.
sorry it’s off topic but I can’t stop smiling since you said What Makes This Song Great with Genesis
I personally hope it’s something before or from trick of the tail, but anyway, really awesome channel thank you.
You actually helped a lot with my matura paper, my friend and me, we recorded an EP and I mixed it and got everything from your channel.
Zoli Reedcourt
Genesis’ _In the Cage_ from ...On Broadway is an _AMAZING_ track!
@@Phil_Trujeque In the Cage is awesome...I also love the grind of "Back in NYC" -
its heavy-metal Genesis...
my ultimate pick would be supper’s ready but it’s a littlebit long
Hey Zoli, look up the Band Geeks on you tube. They cover Lamb Lie Down! Shivers dude!!!
Foster Shampine
I’ve seen several of their copies - those guys/gals kick serious rump!
Nice one Rick, love your LP classic, mines a 2005 great guitars
This is amazing Rick! When you were moving the triads in the circle of fifths it reminded me of Pat Metheny warming up before his solo concert! This is to me the only way to really unlock the guitar and gives one the ability to play all music from Bach to Bebop!
Got so much enjoyment and learned a few things i just purchased the Book and T Shirt, Keep up the Great Work! :)
Can't say thanks enough for sharing the knowledge! Your tutorials are second to none. Thanks again
It helps a lot to just take, for example the D and the A shape on the top 3/4 strings. Then you remember the root is always in the middle, the 5th is on top (from where you are looking) and the 3rd is on the bottom. So now your major chord is basically 5 1 3. All you have to do for a min. chord is move the 3rd a half step down, just remember how you finger your Dm and Am chords. This now goes for all chord formulas (no extended chords here). If I can understand this anyone can.
I changed CAGED to BAGED, because the first C on the guitar is on the B string (Low to hight, or East to West) as Pat Martino says. It makes it easier for he student to memorize the 5 basic open chord positions. Plus each of the 5 BAGED positions produce 2 voicing's
If you're facing south?
Excellent approach! I think you should do one on simply learning the NOTES on the full neck. Then, this higher level of chord shapes will make more sense. I wish I had learned the notes (by sight alone) much earlier in my guitar playing life. It makes everything easier. Thanks again Rick!
Yes I agree completely. CAGED is a shortcut for people who think learning the notes is too hard. But the reason why Rick can play so effortlessly is because he knows his notes. The secret is to focus on one string at a time. Turn the guitar into a linear instrument like the piano. Then add one string, then another. That's why you learn a 6 string guitar before learning a 7 string guitar. But no one makes a 1 string guitar....
This is a great video for everyone who already knows what he is talking about!
What helped me was taking any fretted note and to consider it the root. And adk my self where is all the near by minor 2nd, Major 2nd, Minor 3rd, Major 3rd, perfect forth, augmented forth, perfect fifth, augmented 5th, 6th, flat 7th, 7th and next octive.
Then try to in all positions. Look at various chords and say what intervals make up this shape?
Also i am learning caged and 3nps. Playing caged accending then playing 3nps decensing by adding an extra note on high e to the caged snd coming back 3nps. And think of all the intervals as you go.
Also then doing appregios of 1 3 5, 1 b3 5, 1 3 5 7, 1 b3 5 b7. And you can try tohers with 2 4 6 etc.
Knowing how to jump from the one interval to another interval also helps. This way not everything had to be compared to the root all the time.
Then practicing caged in all 5 positions, 3nps in all 7 positions, 4nps, and appregios helps to get the patters into your memory. And since you already practiced understanding all the intervals slowly. You would have a more complete picture
I had guitar lessons for about 8 months, he taught me the caged system. It definitely layed out the neck in an understandable way for me, and it was a useful tool for me once I stopped lessons and had to approach new situations by myself. It sounds like what you're saying is to learn the scales & arpeggios around each of the caged shapes? IE - if you're on the low E string, G shape is "behind" E shape is On, and D shape is (roughly) above?
Rick probably has forgotten why he knows the shapes he knows. In my opinion, the reason why Rick can play all these triads and their inversion on 3-string combinations is because he knows the notes on the guitar. This is how musicians on other instruments learn. They learn their notes. CAGED is for people who think learning notes is too hard. It is true that if you try to learn notes on all 6 strings at the same time, it can be daunting. I always recommend Single String Playing before Position Playing. Turn the guitar into a linear instrument (like the piano) by "eliminating" 5 strings and get a deep understanding of just one string. Learn the notes on the entire string in all positions. Then move to another string...
Hey Rick, this comment is unrelated to this video, but I'm at a place of disbelief in what I've found. I have recently discovered Phillip Sayce and am blown away that he doesnt have the social media presence like his peers such as Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Joe Bonamassa, Eric Gales etc... This dude is right up there with them guys in the Blues arena. He in my opinion incapsulates the sound, style, and feel of SRV and Hendrix while still having his own flare... I know that you don't really get into a lot of Blues guys, but man it would be incredible for you to interview or showcase him. He brings so much to the table in blues. Another guy thats undermentioned that you could have a field day with musically speaking on guitar is Monte Montgommery.
I learn so much from you rick..thank you from the bottom of my heart!
I had already learned caged, but when I took a moment to learn the triads and inversions that Rick demonstrated here and combined those with the 5 scale shapes I had already been using… holy cow, my playing is so much more flexible.
Finally, someone who speaks the truth about the CAGED system! I'll never understand why people teach guitar chords using that system instead of grouping strings in sets of 3 or 4. Another major issue with the CAGED approach is that when people think they’re learning, they’re not actually thinking about the notes they’re playing. Instead, they rely on visual patterns and muscle memory. As a result, when they face more complex situations, they don’t know how to adapt because they haven’t developed the habit of thinking in terms of notes and intervals.
This is so useful and clear! Thank you very much!
The cage system is a must for chord melody. If you think in terms of modes it makes more sense (for me anyway). Ionian starts the process, that's the E shape, so in other words the system is modal, not alphabetical.
It's really simple once get the concept: Play the E shape in the first position, move up one full step to the third position and play the D shape which magically is the E scale, up one more full step and play the C shape , magically is the E scale again. Works every time you start with the E shape.
Man, this has just opened my brain like I’ve needed for a while. Learning scale shapes, arpeggios, and the caged system just never connected everything for me. I quit playing for a while and am getting back into it. I’m so excited to use this info
Daniel Collins yeah exactly for me too- it’s like he’s helping us push into places we never knew how to approach, like what direction even to know where to explore? :)))
CAGED encourages learning chords and scale patterns in 5 positions. I like this cause it makes things less daunting. Yes there are 7 modes but for Ionian/locrian Phrygian/Lydian it's the a same pattern only starting and ending one fret lower so 5 scale patterns and 5 starting positions is the key to mastering the neck for Jazz guitar. I'm a strong advocate of not using chord books but instead manipulating these 5 chords into more complex chord qualtities.
Hey Rick...What you are offering on these postings is really wonderful...I was a Guitar Teacher for most of my working life...Though you make me feel that I was teaching in my sleep as hard & Keen that I was to do it right..Man you have raised the Guitar teaching bar so High....Now here is my request...How about getting together with Paul McCartney for a chat with guitars in hand...I reckon that that would be the Biggest Scoop of All...And A lot of people will love it !!
Absolutely love your videos
What a lesson, thanks man. Now only hard work lies ahead.
You are the man Rick ... I'm back into playing music again.... great thanks to you
Caged gives you 5 ways to make a chord. The Triads approach gives you 12. Learning those has had a huge impact on my playing. LEVELUP!
Illuminate us, what is this triads approach? Inversions with bass notes on the E, A, D and G? Or maj, min, sus2, sus4, aug, dim,...?
@@EnterJustice on any group of 3 adjacent strings (note - of which there are four: {E-B-G}, {B-G-D}, {G-D-A}, {D-A-E}), you can make a triad three different ways. 4 x 3 = 12. For example: on the top 3 strings play a D chord based on the 3rd fret D note. Slide that D note up to the 3rd and play the 1st inversion (stay on same 3 strings), and then slide up to the 5th and play the 2nd inversion. Do this on all 4 sets of "3 adjacent strings". Practice this w/ major, minor, diminished to start. This will give you 12 ways to make any given chord and you'll know your 1's, 3's & 5s much better all across the neck. I see harmony for soloing as an onion and at the center is the triad (3 notes) or chord notes - the safest notes of all. So it's a great base for everything else. You can also practice these triads moving across the strings as well as up the neck. Start with the same D & move across the 4 string sets. 2 of the notes will remain, just find the one you dropped - it's there! (hint: these are the same extended chord shapes that CAGED describe). Guthrie Trapp has a really good vid teaching the "across the neck" approach you can search out. I recommend practicing both.
@@johnmaloney1681 Thanks for that explanation. Us guitarists have a nasty habit of overusing the open chords, whereas there's so many different voicings of chords.
Triads are within caged.
CAGED helped me to see chords easily, but I also quickly found its usefulness was constrained to standard tunings and the tonalities that it tended to emphasize were either Ionian or Aeolian, maybe other modes but in the root position. For a while I switched to 4ths tuning like Stanley Jordan and with the symmetry of intervals across all strings in 4ths tuning, the 3NPS was the only system that could map out the shapes horizontally and vertically. And when I went back to standard tuning, the 3NPS was what stuck, and I found it easier to connect positions located above or below the particular positions in the 3NPS mapping on which I happen to be.
I heard some licks from Crossroads....and even a Van Halen cathedral there...amazing how those things come together. You appreciate the music more when you see its roots.
Back in my early days of guitar lessons we called Behind the note as "Backhand", then "Cross hand" (at the note), and Cello for above the note. Although I cannot remember who's method book I was reading from back then. They say the memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first thing is.
Just found your channel. Thanks for doing what you do!! Stoked!! I’ll buy the book soon
FIrst time the CAGED thing ever made sense to me. Thank you!
Hello Rick you are a great player and a great teacher...
Cool video. Thanks for all the work you do. I enjoy your videos.
I spent so much practice time into Scales..Arpeggios...Chords...That I wrote a sign across the the bottom of my music stand saying..."Just Play Songs"...which is something that I once heard Joe Pass say on one of his videos !!
Most helpful video for me ever. Thank you.
I was just thinking Genesis as you said it! To me that alone is amazing! Anyway I was hoping to guide you towards the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway! I know it's not a guitar heavy album, but, it entwined nicely with the keyboards. The guitar work of Steve Hackett is just SOoverlooked by guitarists.
This method just seems like an upgraded version of the caged system, gonna try and get this 3 string idea under my fingers
Very Cool with these shapes you see the possible notes more quick.
Rick is like one of those Hollywood film villains , but instead he is full of the beauty of music
Amazing lesson. Looks like I need that book too...
....Love your show Rick...Love your book too....
Bought my Beato book full price to support this treasure of a man. Bout to go have it printed and bound
Thank you!
Agree with the concept.
CAGED is good enuf if you know all the intervals between the notes in the different positions. The Beato system with dividing it into triads / inverted triads all around the neck is cool too. It helps give a layout when shredding arpeggios and such. But I think whichever works best for the individual player is the one the player should work.
Your pretty amazing... the skill you've developed in the loving spirit of the way of such devotion that shows... like many others in the humble times not being subjected to the error and unrest of others of the trials of life, which I see as true freedom being the time free from the stress of everyday life which music has a way of soothing, along with good friendly relationships..
The Beato Book has all of the inversions, which are essential for any guitarist to learn. 👌🏻
Great stuff Rick, trying to catch up on all of these and remember what little theory have been gathering dust in the corner for too many years... keep it coming!
I totally agree about 3 strings at a time. I was guessing that was where you were going. Great info.
Great lesson and killer fluid playing!