Blud really didn’t acknowledge that Gen 4 OU clef is the 4th highest ranked mon in current viability rankings and totally eclipses Blissey in terms of usage % there
@@ElectricWindGirlFriendIt’s not OU because everyone slept on it for like a decade while DPP locked in end of current gen usage % to determine tiers. BKC has a great vid on it called the Clefable’s rise in DPP OU.
Clefable doesn't even have crazy moves. It's the coverage and the 2 busted abilities that gives it usage. Instead of giving Clef unaware, Wigglytuff had gotten it it'd have seen some usage also mixed attackers with such low offensive stats is so crap. They tuned wigglytuff so badly it pisses me off. Not to mention 2 completely useless abilities in Competitive and Frisk.
@@misguidedkpopper8674*3 useless abilities cause you forgot Cute Charm But hey they could always replace any of its current abilities with Fluffy if not Fur Coat
This is similar to when Dragonite got Multiscale in Gen 5 and it gave Dragonite a new lease on life. Clefable getting Unaware in Gen 5 was the same thing and then to get that Fairy typing and stat buff? Another great presentation
Then there's it's younger sibling Clefairy, one of the the best support 'mons in doubles. Had this Pokemon become the mascot of the franchise, imagine how powerful it could have been.
Abilities do factor in a lot, especially when Clef is given two of the most broken non-signature abilities in Pokemon. That's why it's so sad seeing mons with abilities literally tailor-made for them underperform because their abilities are just not up to par. Castform's ability just changes its typing, and grants it no buffs otherwise (if you can even call the type change a buff; looking at you, Snowy form). Cherrim's ability boosts it's... Attack and Sp. Def, for some reason. Yeah it's meant to be a support mon, probably specifically for Groudon for some reason, but just boost all non-Speed stats at that point. This is the very same generation Clef got Magic Guard, for reference. Cofagrigus is the perfect example of an anti-Clefable. Literally the same BST with super min-maxed stats (although low HP, high defenses, while optimized for Pain Split, does eat into a lot of its BST), a good typing, and a serviceable movepool, but a really wonky ability leaves it trailing far behind once Clef picks up the Fairy typing. Mummy could have done something like increase the mon's defenses if it's a Ghost type, or reduce the mon's offenses if it isn't a Ghost type, but instead it mostly just boils down to an inconvenience the way it works now (especially due to how specific the activation is, and how it activates _after_ Cofa already takes the damage unless it runs Body Press/Knock Off and tries to spread it itself - but again, the effect is mostly an inconvenience that could even backfire in some scenarios). Even something like Cursed Body would probably be a buff for Cofagrigus/Runerigus.
@@christiancinnabars1402mummy pulls a lot of weight for Cofagrigus actually, it's sort of like a quasi iron barbs that permanently breaks key abilities such as sheer force and huge power
From a not-that-bulky water type number 8 to a mon with groudon's attack stat but can't use stab to a water type nuke that then turned into a dragon slayer.
Watching Clefables rise to stardom has been amazing. When we were kids, nobody would even bat an eye at Clefable; but now in 2023, I feel like there is no Pokémon Trainer alive that has been spared from it’s menace and wrath.
You’re underselling gen 4 Clefable quite a bit. It took a long time to be discovered but it’s literally top 4 in the latest viability rankings, above monsters like Skarmory, Metagross, and Heatran of all things. It’s almost certainly the best bulky mon in the tier. This thing wouldn’t even be sniffing UU if not for the tiers being frozen. It really is just Magic Guard being broken.
@@henriquepacheco7473 I mean, both can go both on the offensive and deffensive ends, while clefable is 99% a deffensive mon But nowadays im almost sure that bulky jirachi is the most common and the best set in the tier
In pokemon, it’s pretty tough to actually ko a defensively statted pokemon with investment and a recovery move. There are three big ways to do it: apply a status like toxic, set up to deal more than 50% with an attack, or just use a strong super effective stab move. So how do you remove this thing? You can’t set up because it might have unaware. You can’t status because it might have magic guard. You can hit hard with super effective stab, but steel and poison are not great offensive types and easily walled by teammates. You can try to take advantage of its subpar offenses, but suddenly it calm minds or just fire blasts your steel type, and that doesnt work anymore either. Every clefable set has its checks and counters, but until you know its ability and moveset, you can’t reliably beat it. If you guess wrong, it’s suddenly gotten a ko or set up on you, and you’re in a losing position. Clef just got everything it needed over the gens, and is a serious menace to beat. Unless you have taunt heatran on your team or a similarly hyper specific clefable counter, you can’t counter this thing reliably with a single pokemon, and that makes it really scary.
Clefairy is one of those Pokémon that is insanely strong when the opponent uses it, but somehow, when I try to use it, feels more akin to wielding a wet paper towel
My personal favorite moveset is Life Orb, Modest, 3 Attacks plus Softboiled. Everyone expects defensive Clefable. No one expects Heatran to get split by a Focus Blast or other Steel switchins to eat a Flamethrower or Fire Blast.
They should give Clefable a signature move that clears hazards and always OHKOs if it hits pokemon donning the Good as Gold ability. That would make it a new favorite of mine. :)
Without even being a PvP kinda guy, I have found a new love for Clefable as an adult, and seeing it pull its own weight over 2 decades later in PvP, really makes me happy!
I feel like Clefable is somewhat balanced. Having the 4th lowest BSTs in OU is shocking. I didn’t even know it’s stats didn’t even hit 100 in A SINGLE STAT???
I started playing competitively in the tail end of gen 6 and just used recommended sets off of smogon. My first win outside of random battles came from doom stacking calm minds on Clefable and sweeping. Clefable has been one of my favorite mons ever since.
I’d say that Azumarill is probably the most buffed mon Gen 2: it sucks, it’s bad Gen 3: huge power Gen 4: physical special split Gen 5: Politoed drizzle ig Gen 6: FAIRY TYPE Gen 7: Z moves idk? Gen 8: I don’t know Gen 9: I should have stopped typing at Gen 6
In gen five I loved using an unaware clefable cosmic power stored power set. Was surprisingly pretty decent, and could contend in OU on the right switch ins. A lot of people just ASSUME you're using magic guard.
Why your videos aren’t more popular is beyond me. The pacing is very similar to “Crap Guide to D&D.” I hope you find your target audience, this content deserves to be watched.
Keep in mind how its pre-evolution, Clefairy, was the original intended mascot of the franchise and that it's more competitively viable than Pikachu in most cases.
I genuinely think that pre dlc sword and shield clefable had a decent argument for Ubers. Hardly anything could break through wish protect with the recently buffed teleport to pass to teammates. Post dlc the power level was high enough for it but I wont forget that period of time.
I love your videos but I don’t think I’m alone in saying it would be cool to see some of your ideas expanded into full-length videos. Either way keep it up brotha
Ill never forget being totally 100% walled by Clefable and stealing the scummiest win, Rotom-H tricking a specs onto a last pokemon Clefable as it CM'd
Idk when it was, but one day i had. A clefairy named Sweets. I evolved them and used a bunch of tms. And today, its one if my favs. Meteronome lets gooo☆
I genuinely believe it should have been banned to ubers during SS (gen8) OU dlc1 post home era. It was unkillable yet dealt so much damage during the game
"Clefable saw tonnes of use in Never-Used". I think you mean "sees tonnes of use"; Never-Used-RBY as a format is a lot newer than Gen1. I played competitive through the first 3 gens, and even UU was veery fringe in gen1.
Too bad so many other mons can’t be given the Clef treatment. So many mons would gain a new lease on life just by having magic guard, fairy typing, decent offense and reliable recovery.
Well, you can't just give every pokemon magic guard. What would be the point of status conditions then? Or Weather damage, or entry hazards. Ok, maybe not that last one, since i never see a practical use for an entry hazard.
Blud really didn’t acknowledge that Gen 4 OU clef is the 4th highest ranked mon in current viability rankings and totally eclipses Blissey in terms of usage % there
wait WHAT??????? ok i missed something big here LMFAO im kinda dumb sometimes
@@ElectricWindGirlFriendIt’s not OU because everyone slept on it for like a decade while DPP locked in end of current gen usage % to determine tiers. BKC has a great vid on it called the Clefable’s rise in DPP OU.
I'll def check that out!@@emmetth3726
Clefable is a god damn menece in dpp ou
Came to comment this, I heard "Clefable was never OU proper" and starting having gen4 ptsd
Clef is a great example of how balancing should have been. Give low BST mons crazy moves and abilities, give crazy BST mons less busted ones.
Clodsire and quagsire are great examples of low bst mons carried by movepool and abilities
@@A.R_69and typing
Ok but what if gen 9
Clefable doesn't even have crazy moves. It's the coverage and the 2 busted abilities that gives it usage. Instead of giving Clef unaware, Wigglytuff had gotten it it'd have seen some usage also mixed attackers with such low offensive stats is so crap. They tuned wigglytuff so badly it pisses me off. Not to mention 2 completely useless abilities in Competitive and Frisk.
@@misguidedkpopper8674*3 useless abilities cause you forgot Cute Charm
But hey they could always replace any of its current abilities with Fluffy if not Fur Coat
This is similar to when Dragonite got Multiscale in Gen 5 and it gave Dragonite a new lease on life. Clefable getting Unaware in Gen 5 was the same thing and then to get that Fairy typing and stat buff? Another great presentation
Clefable is the 4th best mon in gen 4 OU lol
Then there's it's younger sibling Clefairy, one of the the best support 'mons in doubles. Had this Pokemon become the mascot of the franchise, imagine how powerful it could have been.
Fairy Ball: Doubles the defenses of Clefairy. Cleffa and Clefable can't use it.
@@christiancinnabars1402 Free my boy raichu he aint do nuttin wrong, let him use light ball fr!
#justiceforRaichu
@@goober5367 let Raichu use it with current effect, but give Pikachu a x2 in all stats when holding it
If a Mediocremon (all base stats
Clefable is the shining example that factors such as movepool, abilities, type, and stat distribution are much more important than BST or stat peaks.
Ah yes, the Quagsire theorem, why BST aren’t everything
Abilities do factor in a lot, especially when Clef is given two of the most broken non-signature abilities in Pokemon. That's why it's so sad seeing mons with abilities literally tailor-made for them underperform because their abilities are just not up to par.
Castform's ability just changes its typing, and grants it no buffs otherwise (if you can even call the type change a buff; looking at you, Snowy form).
Cherrim's ability boosts it's... Attack and Sp. Def, for some reason. Yeah it's meant to be a support mon, probably specifically for Groudon for some reason, but just boost all non-Speed stats at that point. This is the very same generation Clef got Magic Guard, for reference.
Cofagrigus is the perfect example of an anti-Clefable. Literally the same BST with super min-maxed stats (although low HP, high defenses, while optimized for Pain Split, does eat into a lot of its BST), a good typing, and a serviceable movepool, but a really wonky ability leaves it trailing far behind once Clef picks up the Fairy typing. Mummy could have done something like increase the mon's defenses if it's a Ghost type, or reduce the mon's offenses if it isn't a Ghost type, but instead it mostly just boils down to an inconvenience the way it works now (especially due to how specific the activation is, and how it activates _after_ Cofa already takes the damage unless it runs Body Press/Knock Off and tries to spread it itself - but again, the effect is mostly an inconvenience that could even backfire in some scenarios). Even something like Cursed Body would probably be a buff for Cofagrigus/Runerigus.
@@christiancinnabars1402mummy pulls a lot of weight for Cofagrigus actually, it's sort of like a quasi iron barbs that permanently breaks key abilities such as sheer force and huge power
isn't clefairy commonly used in vgc because of friend guard and many other absurd support tools?
hey Electric! gotta say, as someone with 0 interest in competitive pokemon you really make these powerpoints interesting! Keep it up
Another mon that got insanely buffed after the fairy type was introduced is Azumarill. It just kept getting better every generation
From a not-that-bulky water type number 8 to a mon with groudon's attack stat but can't use stab to a water type nuke that then turned into a dragon slayer.
@o-poppoo5117
Clefable 🤝 Azumarill
_Being super buffed by
Game Freak every generation_
video contains 1 (one) still frame of blunder, i'm contractually obligated to comment
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Watching Clefables rise to stardom has been amazing. When we were kids, nobody would even bat an eye at Clefable; but now in 2023, I feel like there is no Pokémon Trainer alive that has been spared from it’s menace and wrath.
You’re underselling gen 4 Clefable quite a bit. It took a long time to be discovered but it’s literally top 4 in the latest viability rankings, above monsters like Skarmory, Metagross, and Heatran of all things. It’s almost certainly the best bulky mon in the tier. This thing wouldn’t even be sniffing UU if not for the tiers being frozen.
It really is just Magic Guard being broken.
Really depends on how you define "bulky mon", because I'm pretty sure Rachi and TTar outrank it and both could easily be described as bulky.
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I mean, both can go both on the offensive and deffensive ends, while clefable is 99% a deffensive mon
But nowadays im almost sure that bulky jirachi is the most common and the best set in the tier
In pokemon, it’s pretty tough to actually ko a defensively statted pokemon with investment and a recovery move. There are three big ways to do it: apply a status like toxic, set up to deal more than 50% with an attack, or just use a strong super effective stab move.
So how do you remove this thing? You can’t set up because it might have unaware. You can’t status because it might have magic guard. You can hit hard with super effective stab, but steel and poison are not great offensive types and easily walled by teammates. You can try to take advantage of its subpar offenses, but suddenly it calm minds or just fire blasts your steel type, and that doesnt work anymore either.
Every clefable set has its checks and counters, but until you know its ability and moveset, you can’t reliably beat it. If you guess wrong, it’s suddenly gotten a ko or set up on you, and you’re in a losing position.
Clef just got everything it needed over the gens, and is a serious menace to beat. Unless you have taunt heatran on your team or a similarly hyper specific clefable counter, you can’t counter this thing reliably with a single pokemon, and that makes it really scary.
Clefairy is one of those Pokémon that is insanely strong when the opponent uses it, but somehow, when I try to use it, feels more akin to wielding a wet paper towel
clefable has been my fav pokemon for years i'm so glad she's finally getting recognition
Clefairy being better then Clefable in VGC just because it has friend guard is one of the funnest things ever.
You know they say "jack of all trades master of none"? Clefable only picks up the first part.
Or the full quote: ”Jack of all trades master of none, though often times better than master of one.”
Crawdaunt is pretty cool one in this context became better like a nice fermented wine.
My personal favorite moveset is Life Orb, Modest, 3 Attacks plus Softboiled.
Everyone expects defensive Clefable. No one expects Heatran to get split by a Focus Blast or other Steel switchins to eat a Flamethrower or Fire Blast.
I believe everyone that has been introduced to competitive pokemon understimates clefable at some point until they get swept by stored power clef
havent played comp pokemon for 6 years but been watching every new vid religiously ever since i found ur channel. love it!
Love it when he hearts a comment because then I see Clodsire with a ❤ next to it and I'm like "yeah. I ❤ that guy too"
Clefable is my most favorite Pokémon ever so I’m glad that it’s still going strong after all these years
They should give Clefable a signature move that clears hazards and always OHKOs if it hits pokemon donning the Good as Gold ability. That would make it a new favorite of mine. :)
Im so happy to have found this channel this is such a creative format to discuss competitive pokemon nice work!
Sorry its a bit late, I slept tf in I was VERY tired lol
As long as you show up can get my grades for my pokemon classes
Without even being a PvP kinda guy, I have found a new love for Clefable as an adult, and seeing it pull its own weight over 2 decades later in PvP, really makes me happy!
As a Fairy type enthusiast, I see this as an absolute win.
I feel like Clefable is somewhat balanced. Having the 4th lowest BSTs in OU is shocking. I didn’t even know it’s stats didn’t even hit 100 in A SINGLE STAT???
Clefable/clefairy were the original mascot of the franchise, ofc they are going to receive buffs every gen
"most buff pokemon of all time"?
Blaziken: "Let me introduce myself"
Your videos are very funny. Like the presentation even if its a little basic - has a unique charm.
I started playing competitively in the tail end of gen 6 and just used recommended sets off of smogon. My first win outside of random battles came from doom stacking calm minds on Clefable and sweeping. Clefable has been one of my favorite mons ever since.
Next step : the other ridiculously buffed over time mon aka Azumarill ?
Now I understand what’s so funny about that “this MF got fake magic guard’s” meme
Big-cleff unaware that he so good he changed previous generations meta after gen 6
Good to know my boy Clefable is a competitively viable Pokémon.
Look at that goodest bean
Clefable and Ferrothorn being 400s BST bros
Of course it's in OU, it's Gengar's shadow.
Even with the nerfs it got this gen (no softboil and teleport) I think clef will still be a menace
I’d say that Azumarill is probably the most buffed mon
Gen 2: it sucks, it’s bad
Gen 3: huge power
Gen 4: physical special split
Gen 5: Politoed drizzle ig
Gen 6: FAIRY TYPE
Gen 7: Z moves idk?
Gen 8: I don’t know
Gen 9: I should have stopped typing at Gen 6
Quagsire and Clefable are basically Don't judge a Pokemon by its stats
In gen five I loved using an unaware clefable cosmic power stored power set. Was surprisingly pretty decent, and could contend in OU on the right switch ins. A lot of people just ASSUME you're using magic guard.
incredible video, very much enjoy these. thanks.
Next we need a wigglytuff video on how its stuck in the middle of being 2 better pokemon (clef and blissey).
Sneasel/Weavile are my favorite pokemon, can you do a PowerPoint about one of them? I love this content :)
Why your videos aren’t more popular is beyond me. The pacing is very similar to “Crap Guide to D&D.” I hope you find your target audience, this content deserves to be watched.
Azumarill video next? I love him
Keep in mind how its pre-evolution, Clefairy, was the original intended mascot of the franchise and that it's more competitively viable than Pikachu in most cases.
What case isn’t it more viable than Pikachu?
"original intended mascot of the franchise"
That was completely made up by a magazine with UNOFFICAL in it's name
Clefable in a RBY playthrough is so good. A bulky fully evolved pokemon with an insane movepool which is unlockable super early? yessir
If only it could actually deal damage.
I want to at least also acknowledge Azumarill in this conversation
I genuinely think that pre dlc sword and shield clefable had a decent argument for Ubers. Hardly anything could break through wish protect with the recently buffed teleport to pass to teammates.
Post dlc the power level was high enough for it but I wont forget that period of time.
"Despite not having a stat above 100"
Can you make a Powerpoint about Kingdra?
they were talkin bout evicting its ass from gen 4 OU and it didnt even get brought up 😭
Clef was orignially supposed to be Ash's starter over Pikachu so any buffs gained juat offset that massive fumble.
Grats on the transition internet stranger o7
Does he get monetised for these 2 minute videos? I bloody hope so. These PowerPoint videos are awesome.
Love Clefable, such a fun mon.
All you need is magic guard
The goal development should aim for
Me since gen 1: Im sick of this guy 🎯
Still no „A Powerpoint about Clodsire“.
Love these videos
Thank god for playback speed options, but good video (at .75 speed)!
Still waiting for the Ceruledge and Armarogue PowerPoint
Yay! A presentation!
LMAO the blunder pic
I love your videos but I don’t think I’m alone in saying it would be cool to see some of your ideas expanded into full-length videos. Either way keep it up brotha
Ill never forget being totally 100% walled by Clefable and stealing the scummiest win, Rotom-H tricking a specs onto a last pokemon Clefable as it CM'd
Idk when it was, but one day i had. A clefairy named Sweets. I evolved them and used a bunch of tms. And today, its one if my favs. Meteronome lets gooo☆
I genuinely believe it should have been banned to ubers during SS (gen8) OU dlc1 post home era.
It was unkillable yet dealt so much damage during the game
Regigigas next ? Just wondering
God can you make a PowerPoint about eviolite galarian corsola? No one talks about it but it's pretty broken
Gen 4 clef is amazing
Clefable may be the most buffed Pokémon, but my boy machamp will always be the most buff Pokémon. 💪
I had to watch this at 0.75× to hear you. Slow down, king.
Powerpoint about Rillaboom? Rillaboom has been a great Pokemon in VGC since it existed iirc
Patiently waiting for the clefairy eviolite presentation in VGC
The fact that CM Clefable can run Thunder Wave to beat Heatran on the 1v1 will forever disgust me
"Clefable saw tonnes of use in Never-Used". I think you mean "sees tonnes of use"; Never-Used-RBY as a format is a lot newer than Gen1. I played competitive through the first 3 gens, and even UU was veery fringe in gen1.
Now we need a dudunsparce video
Now do Why Chansey fell off and Blissey was heavily buff in Gen 8&9
Clefable stocks were always destined for the moon
Who was buffed more in Gen 6 Clefable or Charizard ?
Clef was good in Gen 4 and still saw some usage in Gen 5. Charizard was shot from OU/UU down to NU in Gen 4 and stayed there in Gen 5.
And clefairy is amazing in vgc with friend guard, follow me, icy wind, and eviolite
Weird to think that it had the best mono type in gen 1 and the best mono type in gens 6-9+
What are the other lowest bst mons in OU?
any chance at Feraligatr powerpoint?
Pre-Kalos and Post-Kalos can both get it.... 😏
Clefable is the average asian kid, hes just a late bloomer, give him some time ;)
Day 2 asking for a vid on the rest of the galar fossils
ORAS Menace :
this mf running them fake magic guards
toxic
Is no inspiration, its just favouritism.
2:15 Bro looks like Charlie Brown
Too bad so many other mons can’t be given the Clef treatment. So many mons would gain a new lease on life just by having magic guard, fairy typing, decent offense and reliable recovery.
Well, you can't just give every pokemon magic guard. What would be the point of status conditions then? Or Weather damage, or entry hazards. Ok, maybe not that last one, since i never see a practical use for an entry hazard.
1:46 agency mentioned 🙏
Slaking vid when
Feel like there was more swearing in this one, not criticizing, just a neat observation
pokemon with wide movepools and low stats are more interesting to play with than a dudes with one big number and a stupid stab move
WOOOOOOOOOOO