THRASH METAL THEN VS. NOW feat.

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • To represent old school thrash metal in this special installment of the Then vs. Now series, I am joined by the riff battle legend himself TheSuffocater! Defined by fast, aggressive rhythms, chunky guitar grooves, and yelled vocals, thrash metal started as a niche subgenre and eventually rose to mainstream popularity with the help of bands like Metallica and Megadeth. Now, modern thrash metal bands have 40 years of history to draw from - do they stand on shoulders of giants and push the genre forward, or are the best riffs from the past? You be the judge and let us know in the comments!
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Комментарии • 171

  • @TheSuffocater
    @TheSuffocater 11 месяцев назад +326

    Hey Thomas ! Thanks again for having me as the "old-school-guy". You pulled out some killer riffs !!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  11 месяцев назад +46

      My pleasure to collab with one of my RUclips inspirations! Great riffing 🤘

    • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
      @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 11 месяцев назад +28

      This is a much better project with two players....maybe then vs. now should be a collab thing going forward.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  11 месяцев назад +19

      Noted! Maybe that can be arranged

    • @dartawnasailo4449
      @dartawnasailo4449 11 месяцев назад +3

      Older thrash is way better 🤘🤘🤘

  • @geoffreyverhoeven1675
    @geoffreyverhoeven1675 11 месяцев назад +46

    I find a strong Heavy Metal and Punk influence in old school Thrash, a certain Nu-metal and Metalcore influence in new school Thrash.

    • @Sammael757
      @Sammael757 11 месяцев назад +5

      So true. It has noticeably evolved over the years, becoming more technical in some ways as well. I love both, by my heart will always be stuck in the punk-influenced thrash of the 80s when it comes to my playing style. 😁

    • @yobrethren
      @yobrethren 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, Thrash i know better than the new school is more inspired by heavy metal and hardcore
      It has that certain swing feel almost, and another part is actually hearing just about every switch from one chord/note to the next. Even full out bands like Slayer and Exodus and Sodom have actually ear-aching tones, but the players are actually super talented being able to not allow so much dirt in their frantic playing
      The only real newer thrash i listen is Hatchet (and Havok and Hexen, but they disbanded, sadly), and they have that new edge with less "standard" riffs, but still keep that old school vibe. Either way! THRASH4EVER

    • @Natenie
      @Natenie 7 месяцев назад +1

      Groove Metal changed everything man

    • @mediumvillain
      @mediumvillain 6 месяцев назад +2

      Theres still some hardcore influence & death metal influence is also pretty common. In a lot of the older stuff you can definitely hear where nu-metal & metalcore were influenced. Metalcore was so heavily influenced by thrash to begin with. Most of those 00s bands made thrash riffs mixed with more explicit metallic hardcore & often different combinations of pop-punk/emo/screamo/post-hardcore (and then some of them fucked it all up with emo/butt rock style vocals). God Forbid was my favorite metalcore and they were also like NWoAHM thrash. Bit different now as theres a lot of metalcore inspired by metalcore, and Meshuggah, often Tool, and nu-metal influence is almost omnipresent.
      I could be wrong but if I had to guess, the bands making thrash today are probably not the ones who were big metalcore scene kids, they were prolly the metal nerds listening to punk/hardcore/crossover, old school thrash & death, groove metal and probably nu-metal.
      Crossover thrash vs. metalcore would be a fun comparison.

  • @marquisdecarabas1312
    @marquisdecarabas1312 11 месяцев назад +50

    I stay with Old School...but thats maybe because of my age...they are both great but the old school vibes give me something special that goes deeper 🤘

    • @Suddsy.
      @Suddsy. 11 месяцев назад

      I agree. I love the riffs from both but thrash still has a groove and old school thrash to me has a better groove

    • @Landekar
      @Landekar 5 месяцев назад

      They sound old though, the time's taking its toll on them clearly. New sound has this feeling of freshness brought by new techniques and tuning. It's like there's more air.

  • @vandersonjunior8018
    @vandersonjunior8018 11 месяцев назад +41

    I dont know how to express how much i love Sylosis
    They have the heaviness of Modern Metal mixed with some awesome thrashy riffs
    Im going to give a listen to Nervosa too, that was dope

    • @RoRo-vr6wx
      @RoRo-vr6wx 11 месяцев назад

      Check out traitor from Germany

  • @dantredogborsa7048
    @dantredogborsa7048 11 месяцев назад +56

    Everybody gangsta until Sepultura "Arise"

    • @Landekar
      @Landekar 5 месяцев назад

      Being immediately destroyed by Sylosis afterwards.

    • @dantredogborsa7048
      @dantredogborsa7048 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Landekar 😂😂😂 you're funny, you make good jokes 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @viniciusamorim237
      @viniciusamorim237 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Landekar You really funny 😂😂😂

    • @andersfrederiksen7202
      @andersfrederiksen7202 12 дней назад

      @@Landekar both is great

  • @MattCanev419
    @MattCanev419 11 месяцев назад +32

    This channel, the concepts and the music are all stellar!!🔥🤘💯

  • @crankitup1030
    @crankitup1030 11 месяцев назад +12

    TheSuffocater's expression when he finished the Slayer riff. *mic drop | you been served*

  • @attilio3550
    @attilio3550 11 месяцев назад +9

    Arise! That is some great shit right there. I love the technique on the new stuff. But the old just has some soul to it that can't be beat.

  • @antoinelebellec157
    @antoinelebellec157 11 месяцев назад +7

    Awesome...even if I'm 43 and I'm definitively old schooled...and I think your playlist needed some Tankard...great job however...

  • @DonnyZofChaos
    @DonnyZofChaos 11 месяцев назад +42

    For those interested
    Old School
    Megadeth - Tornado Of Souls
    Kreator - Pleasure to Kill
    Holy Moses - Near Dark
    Slayer - Necrophiliac
    Anthrax - Indians
    Sodom - Nuclear Winter
    Sepultura - Arise
    New School
    Enforced - Avarice
    Hellripper - The Nuckelavee
    Evile - Sleepless Eyes
    Spiritworld - Deathwestern
    Nervosa - Suffocare
    Crisix - The Many Licit Paths
    Syslosis - A Sign of Things to Come

  • @Kull-yi6fc
    @Kull-yi6fc 11 месяцев назад +2

    HELLO DEAR METALHEADS.
    I ASK YOU NOT REMAIN SILENT.
    IN ISRAEL ALSO THERE IS A METAL COMMUNITY WHICH NEED THE SUPPORT OF METALHEADS WORLDWIDE.
    PLEASE SUPPORT ISRAEL AND CONDEMN HAMMAS .
    THOSE HORRORS ALSO WILL COME TO YOUR COUNTRIES IF DONT REACT.
    I ASK YOU DONT REMAIN SILENT AND SUPPORT ISRAEL .
    DO BOT REMAIN SILENT..

  • @conroybrendanobrien4641
    @conroybrendanobrien4641 11 месяцев назад +3

    Can hear a mile away how much trash modern thrash is, not much music going on there. Just noise after noise.
    Old school will always outclass this stuff been churned out nowadays , there is no melody, etc just noise and competition to see who's the best at moving their fingers around at lightspeed

    • @spicymeatballs2thespicening
      @spicymeatballs2thespicening 11 месяцев назад

      Modern has more groove and aggression, you sound like those boomers complaining that anything heavier than metallica is pure noise and takes no talent

  • @therewasascene
    @therewasascene 11 месяцев назад +11

    Having a guest was super cool! And great picks as always
    Sylosis 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @midomidomid
    @midomidomid 11 месяцев назад +8

    This was really fun to watch! Now I have to learn some of these sick riffs.

  • @deathnecrobutcher3215
    @deathnecrobutcher3215 11 месяцев назад +7

    The only win riff in modern thrash is the one from hellripper
    anyway, i love this kind of content keep this going hoping for part 2!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! It doesn’t feature the suffocater, but I do have another thrash metal then vs. now video out from last year 😁

    • @orangejews150
      @orangejews150 11 месяцев назад +1

      And sylosis

  • @whatizreality0124
    @whatizreality0124 11 месяцев назад +1

    Unless you're using harmony effects , how is this that your play like 3 tracks at once ?
    Why don't you and your partner there just play it live as it supposed to sound ? I think you know what I'm getting at. Not accusing you of faking it but it's clear your playing to a track.

  • @Metalhead051289
    @Metalhead051289 11 месяцев назад +2

    The "new thrash" doesn't sound like thrash at all🤣 doesn't mean it sounds bad, but for me, it's not thrash at all, I stick with old school without a doubt

    • @sweetypuss
      @sweetypuss 10 месяцев назад +1

      you've never actually listened to hellripper and enforced, have you? another metal boomer

  • @CalebHimself
    @CalebHimself 11 месяцев назад +6

    Love checking out the bands from these videos. That Sylosis riff at the end is so sick! 🤘🔥

  • @bryanterrill7674
    @bryanterrill7674 11 месяцев назад +6

    That deathwestern was awesome never heard of that before

    • @xangrycatmanx5104
      @xangrycatmanx5104 11 месяцев назад

      Spiritworld are so good, they blend thrash with 90's metalcore/hardcore like Integrity, Ringworm and Arkangel

  • @romaincassignol
    @romaincassignol 11 месяцев назад +1

    Conclusion : old school Thrash Metal has better riffs (way more catchy, better written....). Thought, the two guitarists are excellent !!!

  • @ianearl1554
    @ianearl1554 11 месяцев назад +4

    Enforced = favorite thrash band

  • @CynHicks
    @CynHicks 11 месяцев назад +1

    Was Forbidden not Thrash? I heard at least one opportunity for them. There were others but...

  • @silviosandoval9020
    @silviosandoval9020 11 месяцев назад +5

    Espectacular crossover!!! . Son los dos que sigo siempre , uno para escuchar lo nuevo y el otro para recordar por qué me gusta el metal. Muchas gracias!!! 😎🤘🏾

  • @lucabucciarelli8182
    @lucabucciarelli8182 11 месяцев назад +3

    Im not a big thrash metal fan but you guys just killed it 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @mikeydubs_tv
    @mikeydubs_tv 11 месяцев назад +1

    Damn, the old school riffs are so much better its not even close. Other than HellRipper!

  • @Tyelkormoko
    @Tyelkormoko 11 месяцев назад +4

    What an amazing collaboration and thoughtful comparison, I loved the thematics and you guys are fantastic! Would love to see more, going right to the old vs new school video!

  • @sangramos
    @sangramos 11 месяцев назад +1

    Holy fuck I love holy Moses! Who knew the German was gonna bring the heat with the German thrash bands!

  • @mythicsnugglebug1490
    @mythicsnugglebug1490 11 месяцев назад +4

    This was a fun watch, the difference is obvious but both are still great on their own. Long live metal!

  • @XPressButton
    @XPressButton 11 месяцев назад +2

    Damn didnt expect hellripper here.. nice stuff! great work

  • @aglees2b
    @aglees2b 11 месяцев назад +3

    That was sick. Thanks for the modern pointers, and some throw back catch-up

  • @ronnierazor4302
    @ronnierazor4302 11 месяцев назад +2

    Old school all day long and all night long... F*ck, I'm getting old

  • @metalig
    @metalig 11 месяцев назад

    ffs, my mate Donut wrote this stuff in 79-fukn now......Total metal....demo ...i will not mention the german grocer of metal...EVER!! also how many dodgy welsh whiskey things i've imbibed....
    42

  • @markovisic7244
    @markovisic7244 11 месяцев назад

    Dude and Power Trip, Lamb of God, Overkill, Testament, Exodus, Assassin,etc...etc...?

  • @doblef3556
    @doblef3556 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nervosa is Death Metal... ABRAZOS

  • @ConnorJaneu
    @ConnorJaneu 11 месяцев назад +3

    Love seeing some Spiritworld!

  • @minddecayproductions
    @minddecayproductions 11 месяцев назад +2

    Enforced rules!

  • @bogart6648
    @bogart6648 11 месяцев назад +1

    then much better, now is too cute.

  • @andreaktenakis
    @andreaktenakis 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice, putting Hellripper in there.

  • @mohtmusic
    @mohtmusic 11 месяцев назад +1

    Old school wins by far though the last riff of the future seems to scratch the each. 😎🤘🤘🤘 Most excellent video. 👈

  • @zakk219
    @zakk219 8 месяцев назад

    As a fan of punk and hardcore, I tend to gravitate toward the older stuff as you can see that it is really influenced by that stuff but some newer stuff is still cool. I still prefer stuff like Power Trip (RIP Riley) who were obviously more influenced by the hardcore stuff if I'm gonna listen to newer thrash.

  • @djay6651
    @djay6651 11 месяцев назад +1

    The newer stuff definitely has it's metal core and djent influences.

  • @rocknroller81
    @rocknroller81 11 месяцев назад +1

    All the riffs in this video are awesome, and it's a great way to discover new songs or go back to old classics.
    Still a lot of brilliant riffs and guitars parts in modern thrash!
    IMO what sets a thrash song and band apart from the others were and still are the vocals. I feel like we don't get enough today. There is a number of new bands with killer guitars and good, sometimes great singers. Check out Mindtaker, Insanity Alert, Void Vator, Gama Bomb, Angelus Apatrida, Drowning in Blood, Vingador, Colony Drop...
    Nonetheless I feel the majority are brought down by weak vocals and uninspiring melodies, which is a shame. I've listened to too many albums without a single memorable hook, just monotonous screams and growls, with bloated production, trying to hide the lack of an effective vocal line. It gets boring real fast.

  • @mateuszcegieka3874
    @mateuszcegieka3874 4 месяца назад

    Megadeth sounds much more modern, fresh, and smoother than any other band from a current stage. Also, the influence of black and death metal, of which I am not a fan, is very audible.

  • @rosihanmx
    @rosihanmx 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nuclear Winter 🔥

  • @mangamanx3490
    @mangamanx3490 7 месяцев назад

    Thrash is Trash... *AND EVERY DAY IS GARBAGE DAY!!*
    🔥☠️🔥

  • @Mattwarszawa
    @Mattwarszawa 7 месяцев назад

    DAMN! the guy do it near dark by holy moses
    respect.

  • @rockriverash3120
    @rockriverash3120 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice!! It's all good, but I grew up, started listening to metal in the 80's, so I definitely have to go with "then".
    🤘🎸🥁🎶🙏

  • @Sagittarius16
    @Sagittarius16 11 месяцев назад +1

    THEN the Best🎉

  • @sweetypuss
    @sweetypuss 11 месяцев назад +1

    i had the pleasure of seeing enforced live in 2022, they absolutely fucked ripped. their riffing is so slayer inspired, it's great

  • @kristianperezmcdougall1641
    @kristianperezmcdougall1641 11 месяцев назад +1

    So, technicslly this is a conversation between a grandpa and his grandson. To me this means its not a competition but a great historical dialogue❤

  • @1gbayfisher
    @1gbayfisher 11 месяцев назад +1

    No comparison. Old school destroys

  • @NorthmaN_87
    @NorthmaN_87 11 месяцев назад

    Where is Exodus and Testament legendary thrash bands

  • @ernestoruiz133
    @ernestoruiz133 11 месяцев назад +2

    this is epic.... yeah !
    I need this vs in every metal genre...

  • @emile___
    @emile___ 11 месяцев назад

    Might seem a little standard, but cmon you cant let metallica out of a battle like this

  • @alexlitvin1297
    @alexlitvin1297 2 месяца назад

    That good old Sepultura was the best thrash metal band I have ever listened to

  • @donavonmacgillivray
    @donavonmacgillivray 11 месяцев назад

    Im 31 and pleasure to kill imo album is absolutely up there with the best

  • @pertrons
    @pertrons 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hell yeah! Tight AF playing. These videos are great for discovering new bands 🤘

  • @XxUliboneZxX
    @XxUliboneZxX 9 месяцев назад

    Tornado of souls automatically gave the dub to old school

  • @jonaseriksson7091
    @jonaseriksson7091 28 дней назад

    Old school is mutch better:)

  • @portuguesebeer5069
    @portuguesebeer5069 11 месяцев назад

    I fuckin' prefer the "then', but now is cool too. Very cool Jackson v. Is that the kvxmg?
    Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹

  • @Sadion666
    @Sadion666 11 месяцев назад

    I'd add The Way is Narrow by Iron Age (even though that song isn't really new) and For the Horde by Exmortus, love that super fast technical intro riff.

  • @WreckInSilenceRecords
    @WreckInSilenceRecords 11 месяцев назад

    Great video!!! But I'm sorry, but i'm not sure if i hear much of a difference style wise? It all sounds sick but i'm not sure i would be able to differentiate...

  • @NATE1717BALLIN
    @NATE1717BALLIN 11 месяцев назад

    Yeah spiritworld is underrated

  • @woodward_alan
    @woodward_alan 11 месяцев назад +10

    We have modern thrash bands? Where have I been?

    • @Neo-Midgar
      @Neo-Midgar 11 месяцев назад +8

      Thrash has been back for nearly 20 years now. All the old guard back to making bangers and young bands popping up all over the place.

    • @woodward_alan
      @woodward_alan 11 месяцев назад +2

      Wow I'm stuck on what I remember from 90s. Will check out all those bands.

    • @Neo-Midgar
      @Neo-Midgar 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@woodward_alan Here's a good list to get you started:
      Evile
      Havok
      Warbringer
      Power Trip
      Lich King
      Gama Bomb
      Bonded By Blood

    • @woodward_alan
      @woodward_alan 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Neo-Midgaryes! Thanks

    • @Eirik36
      @Eirik36 11 месяцев назад +2

      Bro check out the last two albums by Warbringer

  • @SkrabbyDabbyDoo
    @SkrabbyDabbyDoo 11 месяцев назад

    Old School songs so much better Then. The riffs a great on both though

    • @sweetypuss
      @sweetypuss 10 месяцев назад +1

      how much of that is down to nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses rather than the actual melodical and technical composition. you tend to like things you grew up with

  • @liam_loveless
    @liam_loveless 11 месяцев назад

    where the fuck is metallica?

  • @demianseale501
    @demianseale501 11 месяцев назад

    Enjoy the concept. Find it to be a bizarre choice of riffs though, especially from yesteryear. I guess you are going for obscure stuff.

  • @philsantacruz5654
    @philsantacruz5654 Месяц назад

    Thrash will always rule 🔥🔥🔥

  • @scout8112
    @scout8112 9 месяцев назад

    The "now trash" stresses me out.

  • @Baron_Von_Nachtfalke
    @Baron_Von_Nachtfalke 11 месяцев назад

    How about a Black Metal one?

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy 11 месяцев назад

    Top 10 Anime Crossovers

  • @HakanKoseoglu
    @HakanKoseoglu 11 месяцев назад

    Most of the 90s stuff required two functioning fingers at the fret. I know, I was there, I played stuff. I still like it.

  • @lucaslaufranio3585
    @lucaslaufranio3585 11 месяцев назад

    I'm a simple man
    i hear sylosis,i like

  • @andypop334
    @andypop334 11 месяцев назад

    1:52 halloween theme ? ;)

  • @metal_axxe
    @metal_axxe 10 месяцев назад

    Old school 🤘🔥

  • @MatthiasBuesing
    @MatthiasBuesing 11 месяцев назад

    Great comparison video and special thanks for having that much german thrash in it! 🇩🇪🤘🏻

  • @thomaswijanarko7998
    @thomaswijanarko7998 11 месяцев назад

    Still Megadeth Kreator Sepultura Sodom Metallica Anthrax and other old thrash are the best cant be beat by any modern thrash metal bands

  • @paulosergiojunior9352
    @paulosergiojunior9352 11 месяцев назад

    Arise porraaa!!! Wow!!!

  • @MegaDuanra
    @MegaDuanra 11 месяцев назад

    Evile is an old band

  • @robboreacts
    @robboreacts 11 месяцев назад

    Great vid & collab guys! Props for including Spiritworld

  • @TheSequelWasBetter
    @TheSequelWasBetter 11 месяцев назад +6

    I love videos like this, because they instantly prove everyone living in the past who says that "there's no good music anymore" very wrong. There's plenty of good, modern metal out there; stop whining about the 1990s and go look for it.

    • @ramon2008
      @ramon2008 11 месяцев назад

      Anyone who says there’s no good music anymore is crazy. But…. People listening to this kind of music as a movement that is def lost. The communal aspect of all this is lost.

    • @Ziomaletto
      @Ziomaletto 11 месяцев назад +1

      >There's plenty of good, modern metal out there
      If only it didn't require wasting HOURS on end to dig through endless procession of trash filled to brim with Slayer worship and horrible vocals to find those few bands that are at least above average.

  • @andrewcoates4952
    @andrewcoates4952 11 месяцев назад

    Fuck yeah, absolutely live for these. You’ve introduced me to so much new music in a genre I adore that I cannot thank you enough

  • @Enzolucciano
    @Enzolucciano 11 месяцев назад

    enforced papa!

  • @FaCePlaNt_4_YAHUSHA
    @FaCePlaNt_4_YAHUSHA 11 месяцев назад

    Wth I wasn't even subscribed.. well I know I am now.

  • @ИванЕрохин-о6ц
    @ИванЕрохин-о6ц 11 месяцев назад

    What’s up! I recently came across one Russian thrash band called DAREDEVIL and their song ДАЛЬШЕ БУДЕТ ТОЛЬКО ХУЖЕ. It sounds kinda old school stuff 😊

  • @marcosjbs4391
    @marcosjbs4391 11 месяцев назад

    Two brazilian bands, Nervosa and Sepultura!

  • @kakaroth80
    @kakaroth80 11 месяцев назад

    ✅✅✅✅🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Hgulf
    @Hgulf 11 месяцев назад

    Dad and son?

  • @MauSotoC
    @MauSotoC 11 месяцев назад

    Necrophiliac la mejor ... y el sonido actual me parece

  • @sonjazilg1151
    @sonjazilg1151 11 месяцев назад

    🤩

  • @williammansfield686
    @williammansfield686 11 месяцев назад

    I recently discovered Enforced and am really digging some of their stuff!

  • @kevinainscough6839
    @kevinainscough6839 11 месяцев назад

    This is a great channel. I even appreciate the looks you give each other like " is that al you got" great stuff and riffs, and like the different guitars on your channel

  • @BobbyPVZ
    @BobbyPVZ 11 месяцев назад

    Ahahaa awsome!!
    🇵🇹🇵🇹
    2 great content creators

  • @ramon2008
    @ramon2008 11 месяцев назад

    Shark fin inlays on that orange jackson look dope af

  • @nnslg
    @nnslg 11 месяцев назад

    Under a pale grey sky we shall ARISE!

  • @greedcliffchannel2419
    @greedcliffchannel2419 11 месяцев назад +4

    The newer thrash has sick tone man! Which amp did you use to achieve that?

  • @captain_green278
    @captain_green278 11 месяцев назад

    Damn you look like metal father and son

  • @Behdad47
    @Behdad47 11 месяцев назад

    The collab we've all been waiting for.

  • @AD1978leo
    @AD1978leo 11 месяцев назад +3

    Old, New? I just hear a lot of kickass riffs.

  • @ScottNelles
    @ScottNelles 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! Glad to see Crisix made it into the compilation.