DEATHCORE THEN VS. NOW - Riffs From The 2000s vs. Today (2022) Riff Battle

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @Carnifex
    @Carnifex 2 года назад +1668

    Thanks for playing one of our riffs! In great company amongst bands old and new.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +268

      Whoa! Always geeks me out when a video actually reaches the band. Thanks for the killer music 🤗

    • @tylerwilson531
      @tylerwilson531 2 года назад +11

      Yoo! just saw y'all live in Seattle on Sunday. Never really listened to you guys much, but you put on one HELL of a show!

    • @vancestanfield
      @vancestanfield 2 года назад +6

      Ya'll are so awesome I love graveside confessions.

    • @J.S.McDuff
      @J.S.McDuff 2 года назад +6

      You guys had the best breakdown on this list by far!

    • @MM-nw3dn
      @MM-nw3dn 2 года назад +2

      Dude what an honor to have the band be like yo! Good shit! That’s gnar! Carnifex you guys are mad influential and have some shreddy licks hope to hear more soon

  • @NODcepter
    @NODcepter 2 года назад +106

    I CAN'T be the only one that went "What the FUCK" when he played Lie to my Face and actually did the break

    • @jacobtridef48
      @jacobtridef48 2 года назад +10

      I did the entire vocal section in my head, including the “what the fuck”😂 it’s hard not to.

    • @NihonNoMajin
      @NihonNoMajin 2 года назад

      @@jacobtridef48 Best part! 😂

    • @isabellarocks1000
      @isabellarocks1000 2 года назад

      I was low key hoping another him would run up in the background and yell what the fuck.

    • @faenorblack6943
      @faenorblack6943 2 года назад +1

      Same here. This video brought back great memories with those old songs

    • @whitezetsu3450
      @whitezetsu3450 6 месяцев назад

      That used to be my ringtone

  • @joshuahahaj
    @joshuahahaj 2 года назад +208

    2005-2009 was a great era for deathcore

    • @MrDragonkarp
      @MrDragonkarp 2 года назад +22

      2003-2009 was an amazing era of metal

    • @cheezz0
      @cheezz0 Год назад

      Best Album?

    • @jonbaxter4285
      @jonbaxter4285 Год назад +2

      Deathcore certainly peaked in the 2000s

    • @pastaduce2704
      @pastaduce2704 6 месяцев назад +6

      ​​@@cheezz0The Cleansing by Suicide Silence. That album perfectly captured the deathcore sound

    • @CHANGEUSERNAMEr6
      @CHANGEUSERNAMEr6 5 месяцев назад

      1994-2001 was a great era of kidcore

  • @mr.bulldobs4337
    @mr.bulldobs4337 2 года назад +5

    6:00 Damn I didn't know Will Ramos would be in this video! You should put that in the title!

  • @IICJZII
    @IICJZII 2 года назад +376

    Dude that last clip killed me 😂 fuckin excellent job though. Would love to see another of these, maybe with some AHFW, Oceano, The Faceless, Ingested etc.

    • @Thischarletfire
      @Thischarletfire 2 года назад +4

      What about As Blood Runs Black: In Dying Days

    • @matthewtE
      @matthewtE 2 года назад

      @@Thischarletfire Give a listen to Equipoise and Enigma - Stars Missaligned

    • @reeree488
      @reeree488 2 года назад

      @@ICANSEEDEADHORIZONS theyre slamcore with deathcore and gore/pornogrind elements

    • @griffinchapman7835
      @griffinchapman7835 2 года назад

      Need some Faceless riffs in my life ASAP

  • @TYLERtheMAGGOT1
    @TYLERtheMAGGOT1 2 года назад +38

    Into the hellfire is alright but nothing beats the line in this is exile where Phil goes This world is ours. Such an iconic line. I get goosebumps still to this day

  • @Hipno702
    @Hipno702 2 года назад +17

    It seems like more modern deathcore is getting back to its death metal roots. I fucking love it

  • @kokorolex
    @kokorolex 2 года назад +4

    Death metal back then vs now?
    Death's Symbolic album ( basically all their albums too) have aged like fine wine.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +3

      Yes! Death metal then vs now definitely on the horizon

  • @DamonOfHouseFL
    @DamonOfHouseFL 2 года назад +60

    I would love to see a then vs now on Whitechapel. From the Somatic Defilement to Kin. I feel like their sound has changed over the years drastically.

    • @eluherrahaz1165
      @eluherrahaz1165 2 года назад +14

      Man I miss somatic defilement times.

    • @DamonOfHouseFL
      @DamonOfHouseFL 2 года назад +1

      @@eluherrahaz1165 So do I, So do I...

    • @Mirozenx
      @Mirozenx Год назад +1

      Yeah they got shit

    • @slashfan091
      @slashfan091 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@DamonOfHouseFLPhil stated theyre going for a this is exile/somatic defilement sound for the new album

  • @ryan_alexander
    @ryan_alexander Год назад +2

    that last lorna shore riff was fucking sick, never really got into them when I was in my deathcore era but i might give em a shot now

  • @regdenee
    @regdenee 2 года назад +243

    Something I'm noticing when you're putting these two versions of deathcore side by side is how technical the genre has gotten over the years. Hell, some of those riffs in the modern version would've been classified as "technical deathcore" back in like 2008 - 2011 but are now considered as "standard riffs" haha. I can't help to get nostalgic when I hear those classic riffs that I grew up with. Being 13 and blasting Entombment of a Machine along with Knee Deep in my old Koss headphones was the shit back in the day. Still remember how mind blown I was by Suicide Silence when The Cleansing came out in 2007/2008. Good ol times!

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj 2 года назад +28

      The reason why the old stuff was almost never technical is because it came from the hardcore scene. Modern deathcore pulls more from death metal and modern metalcore (which is also divorced from its hardcore roots)
      Whether that's a good thing or not depends on whether you prefer metal or hardcore I think

    • @bcepni00
      @bcepni00 2 года назад +9

      @@Sergio-nb4hj Old Deathcore sounds more similar to Death metal to me. At least if we’re talking OSDM. And timeline wise, that makes more sense. Should be noted that theyre’s a significant difference between death metal and tech-death.

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад +9

      Lol what?😂😂 Like 90% of today's deathcore is just either numetal with heavier breakdowns or meshuggah with gutturals (aside from very few band), 2000's was the years were deathcore still had it's hardcore punk, grindcore and death metal influences. they used 2 steps, gang chants, hardcore shouts and real death metal riffs, and not to mention how boring, stale and overproduced the productions have gotten.
      Compare "The Boy Will Drown" to 90% of modern deathcore bands and tell me how deathcore is gotten more technical.

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад +3

      @@bcepni00 thank god, someone finally understands.

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj 2 года назад

      @@bcepni00 OSDM? I think you're right if you mean the production (poppy snares, raw chainsaw guitars, etc.) But i don't hear it beyond that. Even with the more hardcore-infused NY scene in mind

  • @alexr6913
    @alexr6913 2 года назад +11

    0:49 Brooo you nailded the Demolisher riff asfuuuuck!

  • @RobbyMoTalks
    @RobbyMoTalks 2 года назад +2

    BAHAHAHAHAHA! The fucking pigs! I'M DEAD, dude. Amazing as always

  • @Milk0matic
    @Milk0matic 2 года назад +10

    thank you for the pigs man, it made me genuinely laugh which is something i don't do enough of these days

  • @allusivebumbleB
    @allusivebumbleB 2 года назад +27

    I will say the breakdowns in today's deathcore are absolutely insane and also the vocalist have more techniques than a guitarist 🤣 older deathcore was more of a faster heavy sound which made you wanna jump off the walls. I love both either way

  • @Knocker420
    @Knocker420 2 года назад +81

    Sick arrangement, man! You two sounded great!

  • @The_KlaVra
    @The_KlaVra 2 года назад +3

    THE PIG VIDEOS WITH THE LORNA SHORE BREAKDOWN! I AM DEAD!

  • @TheSuffocater
    @TheSuffocater 2 года назад +15

    Great battle ! Killer playing and awesome guitars !

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +5

      The man himself! Much appreciated 🤘

  • @zulemazahir666
    @zulemazahir666 2 года назад +8

    I was expecting a joke when Lorna started and boy did it hit hard, absolute perfection. So glad I found this channel today, thanks to TheSuffocator (Collab.) ♡

  • @sagekwon
    @sagekwon 2 года назад +95

    One of my favorite, and sadly underlooked, parts of 00s deathcore/metalcore was the standout interludes trend that bands starting putting on their albums as a response to the lack of musicianship criticisms. Some are still my favorite songs to this day:
    Halcyon - The Acacia Strain
    Dry Ice - Emmure
    Pouring Reign - As Blood Runs Black
    Fifteen Fathoms, Counting - BMTH
    Jhazmyne's Lullaby - 7A7P
    Worlds & Dreams - Misery Signals

    • @TheAlex4019
      @TheAlex4019 2 года назад +4

      You can add La Chupacabra-Burning the Masses

    • @DennisFeinsteinCEO
      @DennisFeinsteinCEO 2 года назад

      7A7P and Misery Signals are God tier...

    • @jacksonislegend
      @jacksonislegend 2 года назад +1

      Misery Signals is in my opinion, the greatest melodic metalcore band of the 2000's. 7A7P was awesome too.

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад

      The album "Fetish" from "The Boy Will Drown" definitely needs a mention, heaviest deathcore album I've ever heard

    • @I3urton
      @I3urton 2 года назад +3

      All Shall Perish - Memories of a glass sanctuary comes to mind.

  • @wadethesladewilson6753
    @wadethesladewilson6753 2 года назад +9

    One thing I gotta say is I really love the new wave of Deathcore bands. Also how the previous gen has evolved. Great showcase of guitar skills here. Thanks

  • @FaddaJoe
    @FaddaJoe 2 года назад +80

    Entombment of a Machine (and Job for a Cowboy in general) is the pinnacle of deathcore, to me. I remember being blown away by the sheer brutality and virtuosity of that band as a kid. It could be crushingly heavy and sludgy, mindblowingly fast, amazingly melodic, and even surprisingly beautiful, all in the same song. I don't hate modern deathcore, but the genre has definitely trended away from the melodic side into a depth of slow, drawn out brutality (both in heaviness and in over-technicality) that comes across as just plain emotionally unhealthy in the worst examples. I don't hate it, but I'd choose the old over the new most times. You chose some excellent examples of where deathcore shines, then and now, though!

    • @benstanfill363
      @benstanfill363 2 года назад +2

      That's why I started to move away from death core. It's either needlessly technical or just so slow and drawn out. I want to jam and its just not where its at.

    • @burningbelow4424
      @burningbelow4424 Год назад +3

      When I seen Job for a cowboy at warped tour in 2010 I was blown away they were phenomenal and are still the Pinnacle of deathcore in my eyes. And I'm not a big fan of deathcore but damn gotta give it away to Job for a cowboy! 🤘🏼

  • @joshgeiger8942
    @joshgeiger8942 2 года назад +8

    I’m def a metal snob. This was a really fun video. Deathcore doesn’t do much for me at home - but at a live show it’s super fun and I always bang out. You gave me a lot to look into…. That is if I can ever get away from OSDM lol. Thanks for the fun video!

  • @andrewcoates4952
    @andrewcoates4952 2 года назад +11

    Most of those 00’s were my formative secondary school years in the UK. We had a small group that listened to various types of metal from Deathcore to Thrash to Industrial etc, but Deathcore was what was round at the time

  • @midnightwar3504
    @midnightwar3504 Год назад +3

    Slaughter to Prevail, Shadow of intent ,Carnifex ,Sings of the swarm,Lorna shore ,İnfant annihilator
    (best Deathcore temple)💀🖤🖤👹🤟

  • @adamujhelyi4340
    @adamujhelyi4340 2 года назад +2

    So glad i stuck around to the end to see the piggy pals. Reaaly cool to do the breakdown vs breakdown like that too.

  • @Luminous083
    @Luminous083 2 года назад +19

    Always great to hear some old Thy Art. I get their old vocalist was a bit of a dick but that album still slaps.

  • @fancybeard3430
    @fancybeard3430 2 года назад +48

    Man i remember back in the early days of deathcore it got a lot of hate from death metal elitists for being "too simplistic" "breakdown heavy" and "boring". Nowadays the genre has some of the most innovative bands in all of metal.

    • @katyungodly
      @katyungodly 2 года назад +10

      As a deathcore musician, I must say that the criticisms definitely echo in the back of my mind every time I'm writing a riff. It has driven me to attempt to avoid everything deathcore stereotypically is and make everything more melodic and technical. That's just me though, can't speak for what inspired the other modern musicians far greater than I 💗

    • @heyitsscottyo
      @heyitsscottyo 2 года назад +7

      My biggest issue with Deathcore these days is everyone rips off of the biggest thing that hits.
      Lately I've noticed a LOT of Lorna Shore copy cats and it sucks. Lorna Shore is cool when Lorna Shore does it. It's boring when everyone else does it.
      At least Shadow of Intent is still cool.

    • @SorceressWitch
      @SorceressWitch Год назад +5

      I am a fan of death metal and like deathcore too. Some people just want to exclude it from metal but I never got into elitism.
      One problem in metal community is seeing music as a competition and thinking that your type of music is superior to others. I just like music and be open minded.
      People say the same about metalcore, claiming that they take no skill and yet I guarantee that these elitists can't play the songs they hate on.
      I think metal community has the most judgemental people in it. So many rude assholes who would rather keep people out than be inviting to newcomers.

  • @Fossilized-cryptid
    @Fossilized-cryptid 2 года назад +11

    nothing beats suicide silence early 2000s for me

  • @SingularityCSGO1
    @SingularityCSGO1 2 года назад +7

    Hahah loved the lorna shore part! Man i replay your videos like crazy, especially metal evolution! You and joão medeiros is basically the only thing i need on youtube.

  • @jaschawohlkinger8055
    @jaschawohlkinger8055 2 года назад +13

    Reading through the comments, still seems a great divide between the old and the new. I enjoy the modern, as most have said, it has become a lot more technical. I still love the older catchier death core days. I was fully into that scene and genre at the time. Something about it still holds up strong in my opinion.
    I also do not know what it is, but I find myself going back to the older albums of my favorite bands vs the newer. Not all but most.

  • @drocka36
    @drocka36 2 года назад +14

    Great showcase of the genre has grown. Little sad at no ASP tho, they really defined the early 2000s for me. All your picks were great tho i dont wanna sound disrespectful lol

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +7

      Had ASP on the list but ran out of slots haha. Maybe for next round! And I agree the newer stuff is noticeably more sophisticated which is cool

    • @Droidiak
      @Droidiak 2 года назад +4

      Asp def had some of the best riffs in deathcore hands down

    • @Lupine.
      @Lupine. 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, something from PoE

  • @IluvBTBAM
    @IluvBTBAM 2 года назад +53

    Generally I prefer the older stuff but to the hellfire is probably my overall favorite deathcore song.

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад +4

      It’s only listening to the instrumental I realised how brutal that is.

    • @cardinalcopia2762
      @cardinalcopia2762 2 года назад

      Same 🤘

    • @kirisutegomen12
      @kirisutegomen12 2 года назад +21

      I feel like it is overrated tbh

    • @2174863
      @2174863 2 года назад +4

      @@kirisutegomen12 Agreed, there's way better bands imo

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад +4

      @@kirisutegomen12 absolutely, you can find a ridiculous amount of MySpace Deathcore/early 10's breakdowns that are heavier than to the hellfire by miles, "The wolf" by fit for an autopsy is a good example.

  • @jonathanolson1185
    @jonathanolson1185 2 года назад +24

    Hi! New sub! Great vid!
    Although I'm a little sad All Shall Perish and Through the Eyes of the Dead didn't make the list. Especially TTEOTD. They're were one of the first modern deathcore bands. You could even throw The Red Chord in there. They were Kate 90's.
    Great stuff though!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +8

      Thanks! The hardest part of these is always picking the bands/songs ha. I had ASP and red chord on the list but didn’t end up getting to them. Maybe a round 2!

    • @breathelife662
      @breathelife662 2 года назад +1

      @@ThomasHogue we are waiting for the round 2!

    • @Joshua-ww1fz
      @Joshua-ww1fz 2 года назад +4

      Yep - was waiting for Two Inches from a Main Artery to show up. Maybe next time!

    • @jonathanolson1185
      @jonathanolson1185 2 года назад +1

      @@Joshua-ww1fz damn that was such an epic beginning to and epic album. That album blew my socks off when I first heard it. The follow up with the new vocalist and actually still is an amazing album also.

  • @bkoskitalo96
    @bkoskitalo96 2 года назад +1

    Kind of shocked that a deathcore riffs video didnt include As Blood Runs Black, im in to more modern deathcore/thall (Brand of Sacrifice, Fit For An Autopsy, Humanity's Last Breath) but Allegiance is a riff wet dream front to back

    • @troybag3604
      @troybag3604 2 года назад +1

      ABRB is more metalcore, but they are great

  • @playthefightriffjohn843
    @playthefightriffjohn843 2 года назад +6

    A severe lack of The Red Chord

  • @VerminKing_
    @VerminKing_ 2 года назад +3

    I know it is just a small part of the video, but what has really confused me recently is that everyone seems to have thrown Lorna Shore's Immortal Album into the void since their last EP dropped, when literally every track on Immortal overshadows the whole EP. Don't get me wrong they're still quite good, but it is nowhere near as crazy as people make it out to be. To me it was just a big step back in nearly all aspects.

  • @mehrank6880
    @mehrank6880 2 года назад +13

    Was hoping to see some Impending Doom as well. this band has always released solid music.

    • @orangejews150
      @orangejews150 2 года назад

      I wouldn't really call them deathcore

    • @mehrank6880
      @mehrank6880 2 года назад

      @@orangejews150 what would you call them?

    • @The_Real_Frisbee
      @The_Real_Frisbee 2 года назад

      @@orangejews150 What? They're 100% deathcore.

    • @orangejews150
      @orangejews150 2 года назад

      @@The_Real_Frisbee they always sounded death metal to me

    • @Kohaui
      @Kohaui 2 года назад

      @@mehrank6880 death metal

  • @elrevelde04
    @elrevelde04 2 года назад +3

    I fell in love with the genre in that era and am still in love with the modern deathcore. Some bands even added a black metal touch that suits perfectly. Music evolution is beautiful

  • @Kenothechef
    @Kenothechef 2 года назад +3

    I always felt like Carcass and the likes of At The Gates were massively influential on the the sub genre and of course I’m probably missing some other obvious influences.

  • @Shuseff
    @Shuseff 2 года назад +3

    I love all of it and have been happy to watch the genre grow 🤘🏽

  • @rocklobstar5672
    @rocklobstar5672 2 года назад +8

    I'm honestly only hear to hear what song you chose from JFAC's DOOM album. Wish you would have picked something other than entombment of a machine there are some amazing songs on there! You guys killed it though!

  • @devasyavlog8850
    @devasyavlog8850 2 года назад +4

    We need "Make Them Suffer !!!"

  • @jacobtridef48
    @jacobtridef48 2 года назад +4

    My picks would be: Whore to a chainsaw, LifeBlood, Intensified genocide, Far From Heaven, Hollow Prison, and The final ones are tied imo

  • @Ouzala
    @Ouzala 2 года назад +4

    Awseome video ! Each time i'm amazed by your playing and how many riff you can nail ! Also love the interaction between the "Then" and "Now" Thomas it's rly fun !

    • @vindicies7399
      @vindicies7399 2 года назад +1

      Architects is auch a nice band^^

    • @Ouzala
      @Ouzala 2 года назад +1

      @@vindicies7399 Not a fan of their newer stuff but yep I really like some of their albums !

  • @victormiranda4664
    @victormiranda4664 2 года назад +1

    You forgot beneath the massacre, boo, winds of plague, abrb, and the uabb demos, those were the golden days of deathcore

  • @cardinalcopia2762
    @cardinalcopia2762 2 года назад +15

    2008 was a Great year for Deathcore 🤘

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +5

      It’s always interesting to me when I do these and find most of the biggest albums came out in the same year or two of each other ha.

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад +1

      Br00tal year.

    • @mattsaunders5033
      @mattsaunders5033 2 года назад

      Yeah

    • @MrDragonkarp
      @MrDragonkarp 2 года назад +1

      2000s era was what I grew up on
      2003-2006 Metalcore seemed to dominate
      2007-2009 Deathcore was peak

  • @AltijdHarmen12
    @AltijdHarmen12 2 года назад +2

    I love how a lot of these 0's bands have evolved and (imho) define the modern deathcore sound

  • @markolivares6943
    @markolivares6943 2 года назад +7

    The earlier deathcore is always gonna be my shit. That 06-08 🔥

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад +4

      That shit completely slams modern deathcore by miles, i used to be knee deep into modern deathcore and thinking it's best but after listening to myspace treasures...nah man modern deathcore ain't no shit compare to them

    • @SpookyApparition
      @SpookyApparition 2 года назад +1

      When I think of early deathcore I think of like The Red Chord, their 2002 debut is still one of the best

    • @markolivares6943
      @markolivares6943 2 года назад +1

      @@SpookyApparition crazy to think the vocalist is now a legit Sheriff.

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 года назад +2

      @@markolivares6943 i heard he's a cop now

  • @VegasLoungeAct
    @VegasLoungeAct 2 года назад +2

    I've always loved that Ken Susi guitar. It's looks awesome. 🤘

  • @j_b
    @j_b 2 года назад +10

    Always love these side by sides - great work. How long does it typically take you to put one of these together?

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +6

      Thank you! This took about two weeks (in between day job and all that ha)

  • @prodbyguttaskum
    @prodbyguttaskum 2 года назад +3

    Still love the classics ! Can’t beat old carnifex and suicide silence !

  • @ChrisJones-yu9rz
    @ChrisJones-yu9rz Год назад +1

    This is my first video watching you. I am a metalhead who is 38 and has listened to various different genres of metal since 1997. 🤘
    I think it’s super sick that Carnifex commented lol! You rock bro, I look forward to more videos.
    Edit: RIP Mitch 🖤🙏🤘
    I would vote the left side all day 😊

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Год назад +1

      That was definitely cool! Glad you liked it, thanks for watching

    • @ChrisJones-yu9rz
      @ChrisJones-yu9rz Год назад

      @@ThomasHogue Rock on man. It was later yesterday when I saw this video, and I gave a sub, so I’m gonna watch a few more. 🤘 thanks for the reply, and keep rockin!

  • @MrJambiwana
    @MrJambiwana 2 года назад +4

    lets all argue about what is and isn't a genre like the good ol' days

  • @joereyna614
    @joereyna614 2 года назад +1

    that Schecter apocalypse in rusty grey is a beauty!! Killer playing my dude

  • @christianmengel9407
    @christianmengel9407 2 года назад +1

    Dude, the pigs were icing on the cake 😂

  • @dape12345678
    @dape12345678 Год назад

    best genre

  • @brucewayne9962
    @brucewayne9962 2 года назад +2

    Def will stick with the 2000-2012ish deathcore. The new stuff I hear these days is heavy for sure but missing some flavor.

  • @ericlenhart6343
    @ericlenhart6343 2 года назад +1

    Kinda surprised to see how many people in the comments prefer the older to modern. Honestly thought it'd be a landslide with how much the genre has grown. Bands like Angelmaker, Shadow of Intent, Enterprise Earth, Lorna Shore, Slaughter to Prevail, Signs of the Swarm, and Brand of Sacrifice have really pushed the genre.

  • @joshnowell6172
    @joshnowell6172 2 года назад +1

    Love all those new bands but the old stuff has so many iconic riffs lie to my face still sounds great

  • @luukhoogland1431
    @luukhoogland1431 2 года назад

    Amazing video again! That LTD is something else, so beautiful

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka 2 года назад +2

    Need an ABRB segment for that really old school deathcore feel

    • @troybag3604
      @troybag3604 2 года назад

      Thats metalcore, but still love them

  • @mathewh4628
    @mathewh4628 2 года назад +17

    As much as I love Will and seeing Lorna Shore get their recognition, im kinda spent on them. Honestly I was way more excited to see Despised Icon get some love and I think Ion Dissonance would make a good add to this group. Not really deathcore but still among the greats in this category.

    • @fynfynfyn6926
      @fynfynfyn6926 2 года назад +2

      sun//eater just dropped.... absolutely sick. its like black-deathcore if I could sum it up

    • @mathewh4628
      @mathewh4628 2 года назад

      @@fynfynfyn6926 yeah I saw the video yesterday and it’s really good. I love the blend of orchestra and the epic flow of the music and of course nasty breakdowns. I guess just comparing the two times made me nostalgic for some of the older bands that were just setting up the frame work for bands like Lorna Shore.

    • @NeverSpeak6
      @NeverSpeak6 2 года назад +1

      @@fynfynfyn6926 Lorna has been that years and years. Since Maleficium

  • @cooperrobinson2975
    @cooperrobinson2975 2 года назад

    as much as i love the chugs, it always blows my mind when bands manager to fit higher-pitched melodies in between them

  • @animalrave7167
    @animalrave7167 Месяц назад

    yeah the newer stuff oftentimes sounds like more computerized deathcore or like a fusion of more progrock type technicals with deathcore. More interesting odd time meters and polyrhythms though. Anything with polyrhythms I'm down for. I've read many articles on bands writing music on computers first then learning it after. That last one was case in point. Excellent video! You got a sub from me

  • @sebastiennault8466
    @sebastiennault8466 2 года назад +1

    both pretty good ! i love death/deathcore in almost all it's forms !

  • @toemasmeems
    @toemasmeems 2 года назад +1

    Never heard of Signs of the Swarm but once I heard that Merrow/Gorguts Luc Lemay groove I instantly fuckin loved it! Not often I hear something that gives me stank face these days SICK

  • @Bryso69
    @Bryso69 2 года назад

    This is Exile into To the Hellfire is a nice touch. Good work

  • @jakesteger89
    @jakesteger89 2 года назад

    Dude the new Lorna shore with will ramos is the fucking shit. It's pushing limits of what can be done as far as vocals and redefining genres and making like a new thing I really really like.

  • @meadhound5658
    @meadhound5658 2 года назад

    Awesome trip back to my younger days and some of the bangers from recently, pigs cracked me up great vid

  • @danyegoyt
    @danyegoyt 2 года назад

    that was ssick!!!brutal guitars, very well played. good work bro!!

  • @Mosnarrr
    @Mosnarrr 2 года назад +1

    Old deathcore was so fuckin heavy

  • @mitcheypoo1
    @mitcheypoo1 2 года назад

    Dude. This was so great. I had an absolute blast watching this video. We could be besties.

  • @colbymurray847
    @colbymurray847 2 года назад

    Thy art’s older stuff up till holy wars is text book. Older deathcore was just so raw and I loved it.

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 2 года назад

    The bar for successful heavy music has been brought so high lately. I love it.

  • @sabotagefate69
    @sabotagefate69 2 года назад

    I think the biggest issue is what deathcore was defined as has been broadened to include aspects of tech death and other more extreme thrash like genres. Which is awesome but makes it hard to compete with the early guys when it comes to that well defined deathcore sound because, well, those are the bands that defined it

  • @VinceMayer
    @VinceMayer 2 года назад

    Dude you killed me with that ending, GREAT JOB 🤣🤣

  • @thelittleowl1
    @thelittleowl1 2 года назад +77

    1. These are insane riffs but it just doesn’t sound right to me without the ridiculous vocals. 2. Deathcore was way overhated. It was hugely innovative when it came out. 3. Who is ur fav deathcore vocalist. For me it’s a tie between Phil Bozeman and Mitch lucker.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 года назад +28

      Yeah, looking back it's kind of weird how it was so hated. I'm glad it's gotten more respect over the years lol

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад +27

      @@ThomasHogue metal fans hate anything new tbh.

    • @KhaosKontroller
      @KhaosKontroller 2 года назад +6

      Joe Badolato from FFAA is my favorite.

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад +1

      @@KhaosKontroller dudes a beast!

    • @Andres-ep7tb
      @Andres-ep7tb 2 года назад +6

      3: Ben duerr and to complete the holy trinity dickie allen and CJ McCReery

  • @kathedraal9204
    @kathedraal9204 2 года назад +1

    Man, makes me miss the oldies, it was much better back then.

  • @AWDor
    @AWDor 2 года назад

    Here I am thinking I’ll enjoy this tier list video on deathcore, come to find this doood is licking it all himself 🐐 good stuff

  • @TheBitingBat
    @TheBitingBat 2 года назад

    I think the biggest change I've noticed is that riffs are a lot less chuggy and more technically, especially since breakdowns have now been coming to the forefront as chug city while the riffs are more for fluffing out the chorus and bridges.

  • @spectruur7198
    @spectruur7198 2 года назад

    You have good taste for guitars man, i love them!

  • @aidenarkham
    @aidenarkham 2 года назад +1

    Awesome to see how much better bands have gotten ☺️

  • @princelorian
    @princelorian 2 года назад

    *both are great. and probably the best taste in deathcore to display*

  • @Sendoh32
    @Sendoh32 2 года назад +1

    Older Deathcore has that raw sounds, more straightforward
    Newer Deathcore has much more melody and a sense of blackened sound inspired by Dimmu Borgir and Behemoth

  • @matsuka6
    @matsuka6 2 года назад +1

    Despised Icon is my fav deathcore band, they're deathcore godfather

  • @shaunshuping5406
    @shaunshuping5406 2 года назад

    Dude!,. Your tones are SIC!!!!! very nice, excellent playing!!!

  • @el_gostav_
    @el_gostav_ 4 месяца назад

    Un excelente trabajo es una manera de esrudiar, estilos sin estar horas escuchando discos enteros ,una labor inmemsurable la que haces, gracias

  • @Cheesyblz
    @Cheesyblz 2 года назад

    this was just one jam sesh thanks for that

  • @codynoeller2551
    @codynoeller2551 2 года назад

    That hallow prison riff has heavy gallery of suicide vibes just really noticed that watching you play it

  • @LaniakeaLeathercrafts
    @LaniakeaLeathercrafts 2 года назад +1

    To be fair, Slaughter to Prevail is basically just Slipknot turned up to 666 😆

  • @luke_unlucky
    @luke_unlucky 10 месяцев назад

    Love the new era of deathcore. Lorna, Shadow of Intent, Fir for an Autopsy, even Carnifex IMO gets better with each passing year.

  • @javierlopeznaguil9092
    @javierlopeznaguil9092 2 года назад

    WE-NEED-EIGHTEEN-VISIONS (please)
    btw excellent work!

  • @GunDrummer
    @GunDrummer 2 года назад +1

    Damn I listen to every single one of these bands

  • @vindicies7399
    @vindicies7399 2 года назад

    I love those videos, please go on like this!

  • @jaimerivera7872
    @jaimerivera7872 2 года назад

    Ladies and gentlemen I give you the power of editing. Not amateur editing this is pro editing!

  • @mrraimundo130
    @mrraimundo130 2 года назад

    I miss the period in-between. As Blood Runs Black, Black Dahlia Murder, etc. Those 2008-2015 times were quality too

  • @SqueakLP
    @SqueakLP 2 года назад

    Subscribed for the last clip alone

  • @Chaosdude341
    @Chaosdude341 2 года назад

    This must've been an incredible amount of work!

  • @Annatar3019
    @Annatar3019 2 года назад +1

    for Lorna Shore I would have used that epic guitar solo at the end of To the Hellfire