Ron, I am 50 years old and have been working out for most of my life. I have started to experience joint pains in my shoulders especially in recent months. Your explanations of pressing movements that have contributed to my pain is spot on. I will change my routine and follow your advice. Thanks for the videos. they are helpful for me.
Thank you Ron. Ive just qualified as a Personal Trainer but have some injuries from incorrect training. I appreciate your guidance. Will keep following your videos.
EEGaming, you are an idiot. Ron, is exactly right regarding the destruction of the shoulder joint doing overhead presses. Continue wrecking your shoulders. Nobody cares. We all care about how we can better train ourselves.
Your credential speaks volumes alone. This information is excellent and I thank you for sharing. It will definitely bruise alot egos knowing that you don't have to lift heavy insane amounts of weight to obtain a desired physique..
Thank God for fitness correction by Mr. Ron Williams. I like the humbleness, and honesty, and your concern of proper training. Your teaching are of healthy ways, and to avoid injuries, to have a healthy, enjoyable life. I like your videos not only because of your achievements, but because you truly share your knowledge, and that you are a man of God, and not ashamed. I sincerely thank you, and much blessings to you and your family. Thanks again
this is greatest advice ive heard, ive been having shoulder problems for years now that I stopped doing shoulder press I can finally train comfortably so thaaank you
Excellent content,I have also learnt that I can keep a good physique doing no bench press, shoulder press, dips, pull ups, all in the aim of injury prevention, so good to hear also someone speak about this.
i am not doing bench press and overheadpress because i had trouble with my shoulder and i am so happy to know that there is someone like you who doesnt as well and know his stuff thanks :D
Stay away from around the worlds to I've had two rotator cuff surgeries and I don't have problems with barbell overhead press just gotta keep the weight light
I love dumbell shoulder presses! Correct form (elbows slightly in front of your body, not too heavy) and you'll be fine. Always warm up the rotator cuff before any shoulder workouts! I use a neutral grip and never get pain but still a great pump
Hey Ron. Great channel. You're getting pretty popular here in Dubai. Bunch of my friends watch this. I was wondering if you could do a video that shows a week's worth of workouts for people who are trying to build as much muscle as possible but also drop a huge amount of fat.
finally someone who lifts properly! Other than Athlean X you are you are one of the few that trains consciously! will check the rest of your videos! Subscribed!
Appreciate you willing to go against the grain and offer a different perspective towards joint protection and some of the things that will fail a normal person as compared to someone who is enhanced and benefitting from a different level of recovery.
U are an awesome trainer, Ron. All ur videos are spot on. I came here to see ur shoulder workout cause the rows on the incline bench worked so well for my midback and rear delts. Thanks
I just discovered you last week and you have been a God send. What is a safe way to build the shoulders without using weights or better yet what is a SAFE shoulder calisthenic exercise?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Ron! I just wonder if you could make a series where you cover all exercises that you should not perform due to high risk of injury like you do in this video with the shoulder press. I think that is a great idea, considering this is an informative channel (your words). It would be great if you covered one exercise per episode and went deep into why it can be harmful and why you should not do it. :)
You are 100% right about barbell shoulder presses injuring the shoulder joint. My right shoulder joint is arthritic due to the erosion of cartilage over time. This has affected my ability to do many upper body exercises. Do you have any medical recommendations? PRP? Cartilage regeneration? Physical therapy recommendations? I want to keep training hard but it's hard working around a damaged shoulder joint. Any advice would be appreciated. And yes, I was an old-school powerlifter and learned my training routine, by osmosis, from watching others in the 1980s. I see you have a scientific approach and I respect your learned approach to training.
Love the videos! Since I found your channel I've started to train with only resistance bands, and been getting amazing results. The ego-lifters at my gym sends me condescending looks, but my results come way faster than theirs. So I don't mind. I'm also seeing how their movements will lead to injury thanks to you opening my eyes. I was wondering if you could show more exercises with the resistance bands, so that I in a safe manner can build the body of my dreams with a long term perspective, so that I will be able to train for many years to come, and not be forced to stop in 5 years due to injury. Thanks again! //John
He has a point, BUT i feel like if your shoulders are warmed up and you pick weights that you can control (and not weights who control you) i don't think it will harm you... been doing shoulder presses for 10 years (also even upright rows) withouth any shoulder problems!
I like the advice ron williams and athlene-x give, to them its not about showing put, its about functional strength, correct muscle movement and proper form.
EGGaming Actually, he's correct my friend. It depends on your age. Lol, yea when you start getting up in age, you have to improvise on certain routines and exercises.A good point to make it more clear, you can't play football forever taking hits like when you're more youthful, so thats how i was able to relate with what he was saying.
Thank you sir, your videos are amazing. Can this be done while waiting for a hyperextended elbow to get better? What upper body exercises can be done during that time?
You are so right Ron! I injured myself many times doing this sh*t throughout the years . Keep it up ! And a question ... Please tell me in a possible future video. Which is the the best technic and best exercise to develop my rear delts? Thanx
Thank you. I have had a few issue lately with my left shoulder - a sort of dull pain inside - can't really place the location -it is more of a long (length wise) pain. It is a dull pain - hard to describe. But I had just recently done a super set that included over head barbell (front) presses - went rather hard on them too. It was a good work out but - a few days later I got a really large knot in the rear shoulder area - that took about a week to get rid of and then after that got he dull pain in the same area. I'll take your advice re should presses.
Man my shoulders kill me after bench presses. I agree with you. I need to change up something. My body been talking but I haven't been listening. Thanks for the knowledge. I got to change things up.
Hi Ron, Amazing videos, I like them, I learned alot about shoulder exercises, I have injured my right should joint, it hurts with several exercises, from this video I cannot make good shoulders, I mean in this video you should just few. Which exercise do you recommend for me? Regards,
Great info Ron. I've developed a good habit of not looking at the mirrors in the gym when performing weight lifting exercises, because it allows me too have a better muscle/mind connection. However your tip on not involving the traps to get a more complete contraction on the delts while doing shoulder laterals is invaluable. I had been doing exactly what you described and largely because I was not looking in the mirror to check my form, thanks.
Great info!!!! Wish that I had known this 30 years ago. This guy is a genius, making the complicated obvious. Luckily I was never strong at presses and very strong with arc movements. I'm 56 and can still do most of my workout routine at my lifetime peak strength level. Number one concern: don't get injured. Number 2 is workout out to the point of failure then a little more. Slow and controlled with some explosive controlled reps.
Ron I have noticed people live and breath for shoulder presses. I do them but in my opinion like yours movements like laterals is the KEY to shoulder mass. I prefer to do my laterals one at a time. I have always noticed that most people go way to heavy and I feel that once the arm hits parallel that is more than enough range. I have had rotary cuff surgery several years ago and I put allot of energy into my laterals. I do my presses to the front and use the smith machine but I can VERY much see your point. I am thinking about abandoning shoulder presses LOL I am stubborn.
Its so weird how this just helped me. I was about to post a question to Ron about seated shoulder press on the smith machine and there he answered my question. I'm doin about 225 lbs on the seated shoulder press and just two days ago my shoulder has been bothering me, sharp pain on my left shoulder. Very helpful video and definitely stopping the shoulder press!
Man, I started to going to the gym a couple of week ago and I found your channel, this is so amazing, your advices are the best I heard! thanks for sharing this with us. Really appreciate. Regards from Chile.-
It's like you say, shoulder presses are at bad angle for the joints, I could always feel that, and of course I got problems, so I stopped to do those 20 years ago. Good controlled side lifts are the best. Thanks for sharing.
hey ron ...this is an amazing and shocking video at the same time for the facts u just said...ill subscribe cuz knowledge is power and you have it..god bless you.my greetings from Egypt.
+Nolan king Inclines bench isnt too bad as in dangerous but the angle on the bench plays a part. However incline presses are a "bad" or not the most beneficial movement in terms of muscle development. If you are looking to develope your chest Decline dumbell is the best, Flat is almost as good.
Hey there Ron, i dont do many shoulders presses tbh, i find it tends to make the top of my shoulder joint sore, so watching your vid about this, is quite a relief, i do tend to stick more with the laterals, but not front laterals, as i feel they get worked alongside my chest workout, great information from you, keep up the vids, i subscribed, liked and shared, god bless!!
Makes sense not to do shoulder press but I do disagree to a certain extent. Our bodies are ment to handle some extreme conditions. In Gymnastics, you are constantly applying pressure on your shoulders. Doing hand stands and cartwheels. With this being said- light weight with high repetition will be beneficial for muscle gain and size. However.. If your not worried about size than stay away from the movement entirely! Ron, you are a great trainer!! I have been watching your videos for the past week and I see great knowledge! I have subscribed and you are now my favorite trainer on you tube. So thank you and keep up the great work!!
+EGGaming I was doing shoulder presses today actually lol rare for me but I did them using a neutral grip and reason I did them is because my close grip bench is becoming difficult to progress through the wieght. Shoulder presses are primarily a strengh excersise and aren't nearly as effective at gettin a pump in the deltoids and building muscle as side latterals upright rows and face pulls. plus excersise like ohp require good posture and many of us lack this due to lifestyle so presses can be dangerous for that impingement. I had impingement b4 but from a wide grip bench press and using to high a wieght to often and basically my front delts became over developed compared to my rear and side deltoids. There's no such thing as a bad excersise just poor athletes performing them. I would advise anyone to switch focus away from presses though if building muscle and not strengh is the key goal. I do both obviously but building muscle is primary goal and strengh is secondary 4me
Great video Ron Williams ! i do have one question! What do you think about upright rows with a wide grip, so you can apply the same technique? I wonder how you feel about that. grtz from holland !
I have been following the workouts in Arnold's Modern guide to body building with great success. What would help me and those that look up to me is a written out workout plan of what you would recommend to do on what days since some of the information in Arnold's book is outdated. Thank you for what you are doing, this channel has been a blessing to myself and others I recommend it to! God Bless!
I totally agreed with u sir always listen 👂 to your body bcz i had made same Mistake once which took 3 months to recover with some injection in my tennis elbow.
Young people under 30, listen to him on this. I use to be pretty strong on bench and especially shoulders. 58 yes old now and right now I'm pretty strong on everything but bench and shoulder press of any kind. I can only use up to 30 lbs barbell bench no pain. I straight leg dead lift with no belt 325 lbs 3 reps two days ago and didn't eat all day before work out. I say that to let you know my body is strong still, but my shoulder is done, for now. Trying to build it up again. It sucks since my other shoulder is fine. Peace and be blessed.
I agree,I have a partial wrist fusion and it's hard to hold a dumbbell in the overhead position.I used to press allot over head..I notice my delts are big and strong but my shoulders are real tight and inflexible.I think it's because of not doing standing press..I'll check out Athlean x
EGGaming maybe you shoud read again my post as I didn't mention shoulder press at all. I was reffering to barebell flies for shoulders as I couldn't isolate them well until he showed in video. And yes, I still do shoulder press. ;)
great info,i did not know this. iwi ll exclude barbell and dumbell presses,it make sence,i will superset side raises,front and back instead. thank you.
I reccomend Lateral raises laying on your side either flat or on a incline. The reason being is there's more ressistance is at the beginning of the movement and there's less at the end. Standing raise is ok but you start off with the least amount of ressistance and you get the maximum ressistance at the very end. Check out Doug Brignole, He and Ron think very alike.
If you are leaning forward a bit, it starts to work the rotator cuff. If you're standing upright, you're bringing in a lot of front delt. A side lateral is for the side delt, and performing them like Ron is will develop the side delt much more, because it is being isolated and not recruiting other muscles.
man you really know what you are saying.... i go to a doctor because i hurt my shoulder and he says that we dont evolve to lift weight over the head.....nice!!!!!
Great to have Natural bodybuilder of the decade in my corner feeding me information great advice. I've subbed
Ron, I am 50 years old and have been working out for most of my life. I have started to experience joint pains in my shoulders especially in recent months. Your explanations of pressing movements that have contributed to my pain is spot on. I will change my routine and follow your advice.
Thanks for the videos. they are helpful for me.
Great info and very true
Thank you Ron. Ive just qualified as a Personal Trainer but have some injuries from incorrect training. I appreciate your guidance. Will keep following your videos.
NOW I know why I have never gotten rid of my shoulder pain!! ...thanks for the post!
I know how u feel. I wish I knew this earlier
your opinion's noted.
EEGaming, you are an idiot. Ron, is exactly right regarding the destruction of the shoulder joint doing overhead presses. Continue wrecking your shoulders. Nobody cares. We all care about how we can better train ourselves.
Your credential speaks volumes alone.
This information is excellent and I thank you for sharing. It will definitely bruise alot egos knowing that you don't have to lift heavy insane amounts of weight to obtain a desired physique..
Thank God for fitness correction by Mr. Ron Williams. I like the humbleness, and honesty, and your concern of proper training. Your teaching are of healthy ways, and to avoid injuries, to have a healthy, enjoyable life. I like your videos not only because of your achievements, but because you truly share your knowledge, and that you are a man of God, and not ashamed. I sincerely thank you, and much blessings to you and your family. Thanks again
this is greatest advice ive heard, ive been having shoulder problems for years now that I stopped doing shoulder press I can finally train comfortably so thaaank you
Excellent content,I have also learnt that I can keep a good physique doing no bench press, shoulder press, dips, pull ups, all in the aim of injury prevention, so good to hear also someone speak about this.
thanks for that I've started to get pain in my shoulder so going to take your advice up
Thank you Mr Williams. The more I watch your videos the greater respect I have for your knowledge.
i am not doing bench press and overheadpress because i had trouble with my shoulder and i am so happy to know that there is someone like you who doesnt as well and know his stuff thanks :D
Stay away from around the worlds to I've had two rotator cuff surgeries and I don't have problems with barbell overhead press just gotta keep the weight light
I love dumbell shoulder presses! Correct form (elbows slightly in front of your body, not too heavy) and you'll be fine. Always warm up the rotator cuff before any shoulder workouts! I use a neutral grip and never get pain but still a great pump
Hey Ron. Great channel. You're getting pretty popular here in Dubai. Bunch of my friends watch this. I was wondering if you could do a video that shows a week's worth of workouts for people who are trying to build as much muscle as possible but also drop a huge amount of fat.
Iv'e always felt this way about shoulder press but this guy articulates everything way better than i ever could, this is awesome.
I'm w/ this dude... all day on this shoulder video!
thank you mr williams for all your effort. Since ive been watchin ur channel i am allways looking for biomechanic on each and every exercise
finally someone who lifts properly! Other than Athlean X you are you are one of the few that trains consciously! will check the rest of your videos! Subscribed!
Thanks Ron, another winner! I saw a kid in the gym today jerking the barbells up just as you advise against on the side lateral raises.
It is never difficult to understand someone who makes sense! respect!
Appreciate you willing to go against the grain and offer a different perspective towards joint protection and some of the things that will fail a normal person as compared to someone who is enhanced and benefitting from a different level of recovery.
Agree with you 100%,....my chiropractor told me the same, overhead presses are a recipe for rotator cuff injuries!
great way to exercise! you learn about your body and movements then into work out! excellent!
U are an awesome trainer, Ron. All ur videos are spot on. I came here to see ur shoulder workout cause the rows on the incline bench worked so well for my midback and rear delts. Thanks
I just discovered you last week and you have been a God send. What is a safe way to build the shoulders without using weights or better yet what is a SAFE shoulder calisthenic exercise?
Interesting. Will keep watching
@ron Williams,
Fantastic video!!! it felt like you are talking to me directly!
Best delivery of information, i have watched in a long time!!!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Ron! I just wonder if you could make a series where you cover all exercises that you should not perform due to high risk of injury like you do in this video with the shoulder press. I think that is a great idea, considering this is an informative channel (your words). It would be great if you covered one exercise per episode and went deep into why it can be harmful and why you should not do it. :)
Wow this mans advice is gold and so are his grunts yes grunt out loud
true....very good point and very good information, thank you brother.
Hello Ron. I really enjoy you vids. You defenetely deserve much more subscribers. Tumbs up
...all these years, all these overhead shoulder presses... Damn you Ron !!!
You are 100% right about barbell shoulder presses injuring the shoulder joint. My right shoulder joint is arthritic due to the erosion of cartilage over time. This has affected my ability to do many upper body exercises. Do you have any medical recommendations? PRP? Cartilage regeneration? Physical therapy recommendations? I want to keep training hard but it's hard working around a damaged shoulder joint. Any advice would be appreciated. And yes, I was an old-school powerlifter and learned my training routine, by osmosis, from watching others in the 1980s. I see you have a scientific approach and I respect your learned approach to training.
Love it. Can't express how much I appreciate the information you provide.
I know my buddies do too.
Keep it up,
Cheers!
Ron is wise guys. good tips. No Egos at the gym.
Love the videos! Since I found your channel I've started to train with only resistance bands, and been getting amazing results. The ego-lifters at my gym sends me condescending looks, but my results come way faster than theirs. So I don't mind. I'm also seeing how their movements will lead to injury thanks to you opening my eyes. I was wondering if you could show more exercises with the resistance bands, so that I in a safe manner can build the body of my dreams with a long term perspective, so that I will be able to train for many years to come, and not be forced to stop in 5 years due to injury. Thanks again! //John
I am not much of a bodybuilder but I love your videos and information! Nice personality too ;-)!
Cable laterals are also beneficial for the deltoids.
Wow, this is the first time I hear someone say: No shoulder press! Thanks for the info Ron!
He has a point, BUT i feel like if your shoulders are warmed up and you pick weights that you can control (and not weights who control you) i don't think it will harm you... been doing shoulder presses for 10 years (also even upright rows) withouth any shoulder problems!
I like the advice ron williams and athlene-x give, to them its not about showing put, its about functional strength, correct muscle movement and proper form.
you are the real deal .....recently started following you ....you are the best .....
I just learned something new! Thanks Ron,im changing my routine.👍👍💪💪
EGGaming Actually, he's correct my friend. It depends on your age. Lol, yea when you start getting up in age, you have to improvise on certain routines and exercises.A good point to make it more clear, you can't play football forever taking hits like when you're more youthful, so thats how i was able to relate with what he was saying.
great channel bro u deserve 500k subs..the info you give out is beautiful
Like the content, some good info provided here, just discovered your channel today and immediately subscribbed.
Thanks Ron, that's why my shoulder joints were hurting.(shoulder pressing)
Great video. I agree 100% My shoulders are bad from overhead military presses when I was younger.
eye opener. thanks ron.
Thank you sir, your videos are amazing. Can this be done while waiting for a hyperextended elbow to get better? What upper body exercises can be done during that time?
You are so right Ron! I injured myself many times doing this sh*t throughout the years . Keep it up ! And a question ... Please tell me in a possible future video. Which is the the best technic and best exercise to develop my rear delts? Thanx
thanks for the great advice..... although it's too late for my sholder ... I wish I had this information ten years ago
You, sir, are a GEM!
Thank you. I have had a few issue lately with my left shoulder - a sort of dull pain inside - can't really place the location -it is more of a long (length wise) pain. It is a dull pain - hard to describe. But I had just recently done a super set that included over head barbell (front) presses - went rather hard on them too. It was a good work out but - a few days later I got a really large knot in the rear shoulder area - that took about a week to get rid of and then after that got he dull pain in the same area. I'll take your advice re should presses.
Mick Lay Motors Japan Correct youre form and everything will be ok i had pain too. Now its solved.
Man my shoulders kill me after bench presses. I agree with you. I need to change up something. My body been talking but I haven't been listening. Thanks for the knowledge. I got to change things up.
Hi Ron, Amazing videos, I like them, I learned alot about shoulder exercises, I have injured my right should joint, it hurts with several exercises, from this video I cannot make good shoulders, I mean in this video you should just few. Which exercise do you recommend for me?
Regards,
Great info Ron. I've developed a good habit of not looking at the mirrors in the gym when performing weight lifting exercises, because it allows me too have a better muscle/mind connection. However your tip on not involving the traps to get a more complete contraction on the delts while doing shoulder laterals is invaluable. I had been doing exactly what you described and largely because I was not looking in the mirror to check my form, thanks.
great video from a great athlete, love it
Thank you very much for all your videos brother.May GOD truly bless you.
yep thats the only exercise i do with my shoulders and the pec deck in reverse works wonders great vid and channel!
maan finally ive done exactly what you have explained and i felt the difference. Eliminated the press and love these vids thank you
Really good advices here! Thanks for sharing it.
Great info!!!! Wish that I had known this 30 years ago. This guy is a genius, making the complicated obvious. Luckily I was never strong at presses and very strong with arc movements. I'm 56 and can still do most of my workout routine at my lifetime peak strength level. Number one concern: don't get injured. Number 2 is workout out to the point of failure then a little more. Slow and controlled with some explosive controlled reps.
Great video like always👍👍👍💪
Great piece of advice man!
thanks for info man ! very helpful !
I wish I had seen this video years ago, would've saved me a lot of pain! Keep it up Ron
This was very helpful information.
Ron I have noticed people live and breath for shoulder presses. I do them but in my opinion like yours movements like laterals is the KEY to shoulder mass. I prefer to do my laterals one at a time. I have always noticed that most people go way to heavy and I feel that once the arm hits parallel that is more than enough range. I have had rotary cuff surgery several years ago and I put allot of energy into my laterals. I do my presses to the front and use the smith machine but I can VERY much see your point. I am thinking about abandoning shoulder presses LOL I am stubborn.
no shoulder press . all the respect from me !
Its so weird how this just helped me. I was about to post a question to Ron about seated shoulder press on the smith machine and there he answered my question. I'm doin about 225 lbs on the seated shoulder press and just two days ago my shoulder has been bothering me, sharp pain on my left shoulder. Very helpful video and definitely stopping the shoulder press!
Man, I started to going to the gym a couple of week ago and I found your channel, this is so amazing, your advices are the best I heard! thanks for sharing this with us. Really appreciate.
Regards from Chile.-
Very informative
Very informative.
It's like you say, shoulder presses are at bad angle for the joints, I could always feel that, and of course I got problems, so I stopped to do those 20 years ago. Good controlled side lifts are the best. Thanks for sharing.
this man speaks the truth real talk
Great video
hey ron ...this is an amazing and shocking video at the same time for the facts u just said...ill subscribe cuz knowledge is power and you have it..god bless you.my greetings from Egypt.
I've been doing this execise and I see great improvements
+coopdvillkc I'm happy to hear it!!
+Ron Williams are db shoulder presses bad
+Ron Williams are incline bench presses bad.they aren't completely overhead
+Nolan king
Inclines bench isnt too bad as in dangerous but the angle on the bench plays a part.
However incline presses are a "bad" or not the most beneficial movement in terms of muscle development.
If you are looking to develope your chest Decline dumbell is the best, Flat is almost as good.
Thank You, Brotha RON. Really helpful.
Another great tip
Hey there Ron, i dont do many shoulders presses tbh, i find it tends to make the top of my shoulder joint sore, so watching your vid about this, is quite a relief, i do tend to stick more with the laterals, but not front laterals, as i feel they get worked alongside my chest workout, great information from you, keep up the vids, i subscribed, liked and shared, god bless!!
Makes sense not to do shoulder press but I do disagree to a certain extent. Our bodies are ment to handle some extreme conditions. In Gymnastics, you are constantly applying pressure on your shoulders. Doing hand stands and cartwheels. With this being said- light weight with high repetition will be beneficial for muscle gain and size. However.. If your not worried about size than stay away from the movement entirely! Ron, you are a great trainer!! I have been watching your videos for the past week and I see great knowledge! I have subscribed and you are now my favorite trainer on you tube. So thank you and keep up the great work!!
Really good info 👌good to know!
I already don't do any shoulder presses because there's no pump in doing them and they are primarily front delt dominant excersises IMO
+EGGaming I was doing shoulder presses today actually lol rare for me but I did them using a neutral grip and reason I did them is because my close grip bench is becoming difficult to progress through the wieght. Shoulder presses are primarily a strengh excersise and aren't nearly as effective at gettin a pump in the deltoids and building muscle as side latterals upright rows and face pulls. plus excersise like ohp require good posture and many of us lack this due to lifestyle so presses can be dangerous for that impingement. I had impingement b4 but from a wide grip bench press and using to high a wieght to often and basically my front delts became over developed compared to my rear and side deltoids. There's no such thing as a bad excersise just poor athletes performing them. I would advise anyone to switch focus away from presses though if building muscle and not strengh is the key goal. I do both obviously but building muscle is primary goal and strengh is secondary 4me
Great video Ron Williams !
i do have one question!
What do you think about upright rows with a wide grip,
so you can apply the same technique?
I wonder how you feel about that. grtz from holland !
I have been following the workouts in Arnold's Modern guide to body building with great success. What would help me and those that look up to me is a written out workout plan of what you would recommend to do on what days since some of the information in Arnold's book is outdated. Thank you for what you are doing, this channel has been a blessing to myself and others I recommend it to! God Bless!
I totally agreed with u sir always listen 👂 to your body bcz i had made same Mistake once which took 3 months to recover with some injection in my tennis elbow.
Young people under 30, listen to him on this. I use to be pretty strong on bench and especially shoulders. 58 yes old now and right now I'm pretty strong on everything but bench and shoulder press of any kind. I can only use up to 30 lbs barbell bench no pain.
I straight leg dead lift with no belt 325 lbs 3 reps two days ago and didn't eat all day before work out.
I say that to let you know my body is strong still, but my shoulder is done, for now. Trying to build it up again. It sucks since my other shoulder is fine.
Peace and be blessed.
Wow! Thank you very much for sharing your kind knowledge
Really appreciated :)
thank you teacher
Love your channel bro.
I do the same thing. I do fronts.side,and rear in 3 super sets..Boy does that work!!.. Like your channel...
I agree,I have a partial wrist fusion and it's hard to hold a dumbbell in the overhead position.I used to press allot over head..I notice my delts are big and strong but my shoulders are real tight and inflexible.I think it's because of not doing standing press..I'll check out Athlean x
Thank you so much! I was struggling with hitting shoulders correctly and with isolating them without use of traps. Now I see. 😉 I've got it finally.
EGGaming maybe you shoud read again my post as I didn't mention shoulder press at all. I was reffering to barebell flies for shoulders as I couldn't isolate them well until he showed in video. And yes, I still do shoulder press. ;)
great info,i did not know this. iwi ll exclude barbell and dumbell presses,it make sence,i will superset side raises,front and back instead. thank you.
I reccomend Lateral raises laying on your side either flat or on a incline.
The reason being is there's more ressistance is at the beginning of the movement and there's less at the end.
Standing raise is ok but you start off with the least amount of ressistance and you get the maximum ressistance at the very end.
Check out Doug Brignole, He and Ron think very alike.
Greatt info man. When does your book, about arch movement technology coming out? And does it contains work outs?
You the man RON😎
Good info, thank you.
When I do lateral raise I rotate back my sholders (rotate thumbs up). It is a natural movement. What do You think about it Ron?
If you are leaning forward a bit, it starts to work the rotator cuff. If you're standing upright, you're bringing in a lot of front delt. A side lateral is for the side delt, and performing them like Ron is will develop the side delt much more, because it is being isolated and not recruiting other muscles.
man you really know what you are saying.... i go to a doctor because i hurt my shoulder and he says that we dont evolve to lift weight over the head.....nice!!!!!
Wow thanks Ron. I was wondering why shoulder press hurt so much.